This week, Ben (http://hellopoetry.com/benkellis) and I, Imogen Arate (https://poetsandmuses.com/imogen-arate/), discuss our respective poems, "There is no age" (with "Preamble") and "Relapses," and our desires to be seen as fully fledged human beings.

Read Ben's poems at:1. "Preamble": https://hellopoetry.com/poem/4261991/preamble/2. "There is no age": https://hellopoetry.com/poem/4155641/this-is-no-age/

Photo of Ben Ellis by LQW (https://www.instagram.com/londonqueerwriters/).

Links to topics we touched on:1. England and Wales ethnicity facts and figures: https://www.ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk/uk-population-by-ethnicity/national-and-regional-populations/population-of-england-and-wales/latest2. Agitu Idea Gudeta, the successful Ethiopian goat farmer in Italy: http://www.bbc.com/travel/story/20210401-the-ethiopian-who-saved-an-italian-goat-cheese3. Antonio Dikele Distefano's Netflix series: https://variety.com/2021/digital/news/antonio-dikele-distefano-zero-netflix-1234954493/4. Asia Bryant-Wilkerson's "the question poem": https://youtu.be/GzKTQTO39rE5. Fatimah Asghar's "Pluto Shits on the Universe": https://youtu.be/7E_WXGSHF7A6. Porsha Olayiwola's "To Rekia Boyd": https://youtu.be/qR7p75HFSU4

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