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Welcome to point made the new

1:06

Centerpointe podcast by young

1:09

people for all people. I'm your

1:09

host Mitac. For more

1:13

Centerpointe resident, I want to

1:13

thank everyone that has been

1:16

supporting us so far with our

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podcast. Please make sure to

1:20

keep following and sharing on

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this month's episode of point

1:24

made will be in conversation

1:24

with residents and ex residents

1:29

at different stages in their

1:29

Centerpoint journey about their

1:32

achievements, exploring the

1:32

experiences and struggles and

1:36

where they came from and where

1:36

they are now. So without further

1:39

ado, let's meet our panel of

1:39

young people.

1:42

Hi, my name is nebula. I'm a

1:42

former resident of Centrepointe.

1:46

And I'm currently working for

1:46

centre point as the Youth

1:49

Network coordinator. George, I'm a former senator per

1:52

resident at the moment, I'm

1:57

currently working as a fitness

1:57

slash martial law instructor.

2:00

And I'm also doing leadership

2:00

coaching on the side.

2:04

Hi, guys, my name is Dylan, this

2:04

is my second time being with

2:09

Senator point. And I'm a current

2:09

resident of Centerpoint as well.

2:14

Hi guys. My name is Brett

2:14

Morgan. I am a former

2:17

Centerpointe resident, and

2:17

currently the founder of a

2:19

nonprofit organisation. I am a

2:19

curator, campaigner and public

2:24

speaker. I'm Morgan. I'm a current

2:25

resident with Centerpoint as

2:28

well as a volunteer and I work

2:28

in several different teams for

2:32

centerpoint. Best around

2:32

different projects and all that

2:35

kind of stuff. So yeah, now that we've got our lovely

2:36

panellists, let's get right into

2:39

our main discussion surrounding

2:39

their achievements. What does

2:43

achievement mean to our young

2:43

panellist? I want to ask, the

2:47

better, I'd say achievement to me is

2:48

achieving personal goals in

2:52

terms of, you know, I think I

2:52

had a discussion with one of our

2:56

panellists last week about

2:56

achievements and success. And

3:00

they almost said like, I don't

3:00

think I'm a successes yet. I

3:03

feel like, you know, I've got a

3:03

lot of achievements, but not

3:07

reached where I want to be. And

3:07

achievements for me are just

3:11

reaching my goals, personal

3:11

goals, you know, career goals,

3:15

education is very important to

3:15

me. And it's just yeah, those

3:19

kind of achievements matter to me, I'd say, thank you for that. Bless her

3:21

Dylan.

3:26

So achievements to me is just

3:26

basically, to me, it means that

3:32

I'm able to prove to myself and

3:32

others that I can achieve my

3:37

goals, even if there are

3:37

obstacles in front of me. That's

3:43

great. Yeah, let's go to Brooke Morgan.

3:47

I will define achievements,

3:47

about choosing myself, every

3:52

day, I wake up and choose

3:52

myself, she used to be better

3:54

for myself, she used to rest

3:54

when I need rest. She used to go

3:58

harder to use to challenge

3:58

myself choose to ask for help.

4:02

That would be achievements to

4:02

me. Because in order to actually

4:06

achieve, you need to be able to

4:06

do those things as a foundation

4:10

and as a root. So that's how I

4:10

would define achievement.

4:13

Let's go to Morgan. I personally can't really define

4:15

what achievements are. And I

4:18

don't really like the idea of

4:18

having a goal set. Because I'm

4:23

more of a spur of the moment

4:23

kind of person. It's like what I

4:27

do at the current time, is, you

4:27

know, get it done. Instead of

4:32

you know, focusing on the long

4:32

run. As long as I know that

4:35

stuff's been finished, then

4:35

yeah, that's my quote unquote,

4:38

achievement, I guess. And finally, George.

4:42

achievement to me is means

4:42

keeping things consistent,

4:47

keeping things going every

4:47

single day, in a way that to me

4:50

that's achievement, achievement

4:50

could be anything, anything

4:53

really, for example, cleaning up

4:53

your dishes before bed. That's

4:58

an achievement can be a big

4:58

thing that you want to do during

5:01

the day. So that's what it means

5:01

to me.

5:05

Thank you for that George

5:05

Nobita.

5:07

I've noticed as well

5:07

achievements definitely mean

5:10

different things to different

5:10

people. And passively

5:13

achievements for me is about

5:13

constantly making myself a

5:16

better person, you know, I

5:16

noticed that my goals constantly

5:20

are changing. But once I reach a

5:20

particular goal achievement, I

5:23

always want to achieve something

5:23

else. So it's like a stepping

5:27

stone say, I'm just trying to

5:27

make myself a better person.

5:29

That's the podcast from centre by young

5:32

people, for all people. Okay, so

5:39

I mean, because we are part of

5:39

centerpoint, Dillon, or Morgan,

5:42

our current residents of

5:42

centerpoint. And I know rest of

5:46

us are ex residents. So I'll

5:46

kind of want to touch on what

5:51

does success look like to you?

5:51

And why is it important to hear

5:54

the stories of young people at

5:54

Centerpoint? So I say first, we

6:00

start off with the ex residents,

6:00

and then I think we can hear

6:03

what the current residents have

6:03

to say. So yeah, let's start

6:07

with the be like, in one of my

6:10

personal goals is always I've

6:10

always wanted to be a solicitor,

6:13

and when I make it, you know, to

6:13

be a solicitor and to be

6:18

financially Okay, and to have a

6:18

roof over my head, that would be

6:22

successful for me, and to have

6:22

my family with me that that

6:25

success for me really, and just

6:25

to be proud of myself as well,

6:29

particularly from you know,

6:29

where, where I'm coming from,

6:32

you know, in terms of having

6:32

been homeless before. I don't

6:35

want that for the future. Me.

6:35

And I think that's important.

6:39

And that's what's the census for

6:39

me, was great.

6:42

Brooke Morgan. Successful me is being okay,

6:43

internally, I think you can

6:50

aspire for the worldly and

6:50

materialistic goods. But you can

6:54

have it all and feel rubbish

6:54

internally. The external factors

6:58

in this world for me mean

6:58

absolutely nothing, of course,

7:01

there's going to be factors that

7:01

enable me to support other

7:04

people enable me, for me to

7:04

fulfil my purpose, but

7:08

ultimately, success for me, is

7:08

to be without internal

7:14

turbulence. And then of course,

7:14

my purpose is to help others. So

7:17

you know, the more people I can

7:17

help, the more successful I feel

7:21

like I become, but the core the

7:21

baseline for me is being okay,

7:27

internally, mentally,

7:27

spiritually, emotionally.

7:30

Cool, awesome. Finally, George,

7:30

and then we will go to our

7:35

current residence. And Success to me is been, first

7:37

of all, mentally and financially

7:45

stable. You know, because I say

7:45

mentally, because if my mental

7:50

health is not alright, then I

7:50

can't be stable, I can't be

7:52

financially stable, I can't do

7:52

things that will help me grow

7:55

financially. And the other thing

7:55

for me is, successes, being

8:03

surrounded by people who helped

8:03

me grow as a person and keeping

8:08

again, like I said earlier,

8:08

keeping things going and keeping

8:11

a consistent, you know,

8:11

maintaining what I've achieved

8:15

so far, a success to me.

8:19

Okay, brilliant. So, Dylan and

8:19

Morgan, I want to ask you this,

8:24

as well, having heard what the

8:24

ex presidents have just said,

8:29

What are your thoughts? So I

8:29

want to start with Dylan please.

8:33

Thinking about it. I agree.

8:33

Like, for me, personally,

8:37

success is split into two

8:37

things. So that's like my inner

8:41

self as what Brooke Morgan was

8:41

saying, just like, with my

8:45

mental health and stuff, because

8:45

I really struggle with that. But

8:48

then there's also the other

8:48

part, which is like, having a

8:52

roof over my head, helping my

8:52

finances in check and stuff like

8:56

that. So those are like the two

8:56

different kinds of things for me

9:00

that will come towards success.

9:00

Brilliant. Morgan,

9:04

I suppose I'll agree with the

9:04

majority in saying that a lot of

9:09

success is based around you

9:09

know, like furrows, being able

9:12

to, you know, like, afford

9:12

stuff, being able to actually,

9:16

you know, like put clothes on

9:16

your back, put food on your

9:19

table and all that kind of

9:19

stuff. And then for me, it's

9:22

like confidence. I used to be

9:22

this timid young character that

9:26

just signed his bedroom majority

9:26

that day, because he didn't want

9:29

to actually socialise and to see

9:29

myself now talking in front of,

9:34

you know, like, so many

9:34

different important people,

9:38

whilst trying to make a

9:38

difference for not only myself,

9:41

but for a bigger group of people

9:41

as well. I feel like that's

9:46

probably a bit of a success

9:46

story in America and if

9:50

anything, yeah, I guess that's

9:50

my own opinion.

9:54

I think what we all been saying

9:54

I think it's more about the

9:59

little things that we We count

9:59

as our success. And to someone

10:03

that hasn't been involved with

10:03

centerpoint. It's really good

10:07

because it gives them a

10:07

different perspective to show

10:10

what our point of success is.

10:10

And I think that's really good.

10:14

So I want to ask you as well,

10:14

what was that pivotal moment in

10:19

your Centerpoint journey? You

10:19

know, so far for you, Morgan and

10:22

Dylan, and as well as for the ex

10:22

presidents, what has been that

10:29

pivotal moment for you? So,

10:32

mythical year, what your version

10:32

of success will be like? Sorry,

10:37

if you don't mind. So I'll probably say is pretty

10:38

much the same as what everyone

10:42

said. It's more about the small

10:42

things. And I broke Morgan as

10:47

well, I think I've been in a

10:47

similar position where just

10:50

having a little bit of money

10:50

meant a lot to me, just being

10:53

able to buy myself a meal in the

10:53

night. And are some nights I did

10:56

go sleep starving, and just

10:56

having a meal meant a lot to me.

11:00

And it was like one of my

11:00

greatest achievements to be able

11:03

to get myself back on my feet.

11:03

And you know, to actually push

11:07

myself to do things like write a

11:07

book and start my business and

11:11

things like that. So I think,

11:11

just appreciating the little

11:14

things in life. You know, it

11:14

means me being successful. So

11:19

yeah, probably much this pretty

11:19

much the same as everyone. Yeah,

11:22

Nabila. You want to say

11:22

something? Sorry. Yeah, I

11:25

just thought was a really good

11:25

comment that but more than made

11:28

in terms of like, the mind, and

11:28

like being mentally, I think it

11:33

was George as well said mentally

11:33

stable, and Morgan said, okay,

11:37

in yourself, I think those are

11:37

two very important points. But I

11:42

just, my opinion is just like,

11:42

you know, whilst you guys okay

11:47

to like, you know, have like, a

11:47

little bit of money, and still

11:51

be okay. And say the little

11:51

things. I think there's so much

11:55

narrative in society that tells

11:55

us like, if we don't have enough

11:58

money, then we're not

11:58

successful. So I think whilst

12:02

it's really good that you guys

12:02

think like that, do you guys

12:04

never ever feel like society

12:04

ever, like pushes you to think

12:08

success looks like something

12:08

else, if that makes sense

12:12

to you, I think that's a really

12:12

good point to make. And just to,

12:15

because obviously, I never try

12:15

and make things rosier than they

12:18

are. I always try and give the

12:18

real. But I think just to put

12:22

that into context, it was a

12:22

point where I started to receive

12:25

counselling and I started to

12:25

fall out myself again. And I do

12:29

not place value in anything

12:29

external than my actual being,

12:33

having the confidence even

12:33

though I don't have the

12:35

financial stability to put food

12:35

on my table and physically feed

12:38

myself. I had the confidence to

12:38

arts for someone. And that's

12:42

where my value came. Getting

12:42

back to myself again, and having

12:45

so many points of realisation

12:45

and understanding my situation,

12:49

it was that, wow, the overall

12:49

sense of joy in my body,

12:54

regardless of the rubbish

12:54

factors that were around me, me

12:58

being able to feel that feeling

12:58

for me made me feel successful

13:03

in his own right. I just want to say Britt,

13:04

Morgans is an amazing thing, you

13:07

know, to feel good within

13:07

yourself, like not to be worried

13:10

about external things that you

13:10

felt good within yourself,

13:14

regardless of anything else. So

13:14

yeah, it's quite inspiring,

13:17

actually. Amazing. Morgan,

13:20

just on the topic of, you know,

13:20

success and happiness,

13:23

especially for people who are

13:23

either working for Centerpoint

13:25

have been in Centerpointe, or,

13:25

you know, like being an extra

13:28

residence. What I've been sat

13:28

here thinking is the only

13:32

success that I want, again, I

13:32

guess, from all this is, you

13:37

know, just a bit more morality

13:37

from people who may not actually

13:42

go through the same struggles

13:42

that we've been through. And a

13:44

certain surfer, you know, are

13:44

people talking down on people in

13:47

bed, you know, like claiming

13:47

benefits or anything like that,

13:49

because end of the day, they may

13:49

not actually have a choice, they

13:53

may have to claim those benefits

13:53

because they need to, or they

13:57

need it to survive. Like if we

13:57

can actually, you know, like, as

14:00

a society, be more respectful of

14:00

each other, no matter what sort

14:06

of circumstances we go through,

14:06

then yeah, maybe that might

14:10

actually be true success. Yeah, I agree. I think when it

14:12

comes to society, defining what

14:16

success is, it's always going to

14:16

be that way. I think society has

14:21

a way of defining everything

14:21

nowadays, like with identity and

14:24

everything else. But when it

14:24

comes to success, it's, you

14:27

know, sometimes shown as you

14:27

have to have a lot of money, or

14:31

be famous and have a lot of, you

14:31

know, big house, nice cars. But

14:34

I think it's down to us to

14:34

define what success means to us,

14:39

regardless of what society says.

14:39

And, you know, like we talked

14:43

about today, it's about the

14:43

little things for us, you know,

14:46

just being happy and content,

14:46

and having a peaceful life is

14:49

just being successful. George,

14:49

it's got to

14:53

be a while I'm going to add on

14:53

what you just said. Mitac is

14:55

that, to me personally, it

14:55

doesn't matter what people do.

14:59

Think what society thinks.

14:59

Because society doesn't know

15:04

what's important to me. So

15:04

what's important to me is not

15:09

necessarily important to someone

15:09

else, what's common sense to me,

15:11

it's not common sense of someone

15:11

else. So, me defining my own

15:15

success, as you know, has

15:15

nothing to do what people think

15:20

people that, you know, like

15:20

Morgan said, people always been

15:24

to being successful, meaning you

15:24

need to have a lot of money in

15:26

all of this. But for me

15:26

personally, when I mean,

15:29

financial stability means that

15:29

I'm able to do the things that I

15:32

want to do. I mean, without

15:32

having to think twice without

15:35

having to worry am I going to

15:35

have enough I don't want to have

15:38

to think about I just want to go

15:38

in enjoy. So going back to what

15:43

I was saying is that what's

15:43

important to us and important to

15:45

everyone, to to society. So it

15:45

doesn't necessarily matter what

15:50

people think what's important is

15:50

what you think,

15:53

think that was a good thing that

15:53

you said that you're just like,

15:56

what success is to you, but I

15:56

just think, you know, nowadays,

15:59

there's so much pressure on like

15:59

social media, Instagram, in

16:02

particular, of what success is

16:02

in terms of like, having money

16:07

and, you know, having a nice

16:07

car, and they paint that as

16:11

success, but for people like

16:11

ourselves, you know, have maybe

16:15

not had the best background. So

16:15

where we're coming from and

16:17

stuff like that. I just think

16:17

success might be different for

16:20

us. And in that way, but yeah, I

16:20

just wanted to touch on social

16:23

media as kind of influence on,

16:23

you know, success, what it looks

16:27

like, yeah, sorry. Um, one thing as

16:27

well, I just want to empower

16:30

everyone to let them know that

16:30

as much as we talk about

16:33

society, and society and social

16:33

media, and this is no indirectly

16:38

below, and I say this, but like,

16:38

we have the power, because when

16:42

you ask people what makes up

16:42

society, society is us. So you

16:45

know, if I can use my voice on

16:45

my social platform, to post an

16:49

empowering message, or to be

16:49

transparent or to just be honest

16:52

with people, and I can have the

16:52

that not the guts, but like the

16:58

thick skin to you know, what if

16:58

someone says anything about me,

17:01

and it not throw me off my path,

17:01

then I implore everybody to try

17:05

and do that. Do not I mean, I'm

17:05

not saying go and post your

17:07

whole life, because it's no

17:07

one's business. But you know, we

17:10

have the power to control the

17:10

narrative. We are society. So we

17:15

all have success in our own

17:15

right, waking up this morning,

17:18

successful washing them dirty

17:18

dishes, well done, because that

17:22

may be hard for you going in the

17:22

shower with someone with

17:25

depression, you know, the

17:25

mundane the everyday, the

17:28

tedious things every day is.

17:28

That's a really big task for me.

17:32

But you know what? I've had

17:32

three showers this week, that's

17:34

once every other day, well done.

17:34

You've had a successful week and

17:37

success changes. Everyone's

17:37

timescales are different. And I

17:40

think success is fluid. And it's

17:40

forever changing.

17:43

I was just going to say that

17:43

it's all about adding to what

17:47

Brooke Morgan said is about

17:47

social media about empowering

17:51

mentioned seeing something on

17:51

social media. But the thing is,

17:55

some people may look at that and

17:55

intervene just because one

17:59

person has said it, you know, he

17:59

doesn't really matter. But for

18:03

me, standing by myself is also a

18:03

form of success. Even if other

18:08

people don't believe in what I'm

18:08

saying. Does that make sense?

18:11

Like some people think being

18:11

successful means having all

18:14

those people around you agreeing

18:14

to be about to what you're

18:17

saying, but I'm standing by

18:17

yourself and you know, on your

18:21

own side, it's sticking to what

18:21

you believe is for Success to

18:24

me. And I just say I really admire

18:26

both yourself, George and

18:29

Morgan's confidence within

18:29

yourself, you know, is really

18:33

admirable, not to feel fazed by

18:33

the pressures of today's

18:36

society. And to kind of be able

18:36

to define your own success is a

18:41

really admirable thing. To forecast from centre by young

18:44

people, for all people. Living

18:51

in supportive housing,

18:51

accommodation. So what do you

18:55

think it's needed to achieve?

18:55

Your Goals? I'll start with

18:59

George, personally, as a, you know, as, as a former

19:01

resident when I was incentive

19:05

point, um, you know, from my own

19:05

experience, the one thing that

19:09

kept me going is having a small

19:09

dream. Yeah. And until this day,

19:13

I still have that dream. And

19:13

when I say to some people,

19:16

sometimes they laugh at me and

19:16

think some of them think it's

19:20

funny, some of them think it's

19:20

silly, but what kept me going

19:23

was having was me telling myself

19:23

every single day that I'm gonna

19:28

own a Lamborghini one day, and

19:28

I'm gonna have a successful

19:32

family, and I'm going to be

19:32

surrounded by people that love

19:35

me. That just really kept me

19:35

going. Because I remember when I

19:38

became homeless, I've been I've

19:38

taken the wrong path. But just

19:41

having that small, little

19:41

believe in our small imagination

19:45

is what actually kept me going

19:45

and made me think, yeah, I want

19:49

to do this. So that means every

19:49

opportunity that I see the the

19:53

incentive point I'm going to

19:53

take it doesn't matter what it

19:56

is. I'm just going to take it

19:56

because that you know how

20:00

ultimately build to the long

20:00

term goal.

20:03

That's brilliant. I want to go

20:03

to Dylan, just because he's

20:09

currently in a supported

20:09

housing. So Dylan, I want to ask

20:13

you, what do you think needs to

20:13

happen for you to achieve your

20:17

goals? I mean, mainly, I think it'd be

20:18

a good support system, like with

20:22

your stuff and stuff, because

20:22

like, if you don't get along

20:26

with the stuff, key worker or

20:26

support worker in or anything

20:29

like that, then there's a good

20:29

chance that you'll be able to,

20:32

like, push on and try to achieve

20:32

something. Whereas like, for me,

20:36

like I've got a really good

20:36

support system. And I've had

20:38

like, my previous key worker and

20:38

my current key workers there, I

20:44

can go talk to him. And then

20:44

like, they'll continue to like,

20:47

give me a lot of pushes, and

20:47

things like that, to get me out

20:51

of my comfort zone and try to do

20:51

new things like this podcast at

20:54

the start of it. Like when Jay

20:54

told me about it, I didn't

20:57

really want to do it. And like

20:57

after thinking it over and

21:01

talking over it with Tamsin and

21:01

Jay, I decided to do it. And I

21:06

feel like it's been a real good

21:06

benefit from it.

21:09

Glad to hear that. Yeah, let's

21:09

go to Brock Morgan.

21:15

So I was gonna pick up from what

21:15

Zealand just said, and a little

21:18

bit of what George said,

21:18

actually, for me, he's like, an

21:22

outrageously confident person.

21:22

I'm not normally uncomfortable.

21:27

But for people that are not

21:27

like, Yeah, I'll just give it a

21:31

go and see what happens for

21:31

people that are not as confident

21:34

is that definitely stepping out

21:34

of your comfort zone, because

21:37

you do have a safety net of

21:37

centerpoint, who you have team

21:41

members in head office, you have

21:41

Tamsin who's always encouraging

21:45

young people, you have the jobs

21:45

network of people and the

21:48

employability team, and the Arts

21:48

and Education team that's always

21:52

trying to put opportunities in

21:52

front of young people, what

21:56

George said about just taking

21:56

every opportunity and saying,

21:59

yes, a lot of young people,

21:59

sorry, correction, some young

22:02

people, in the centre point

22:02

services are unemployed. So what

22:05

are you doing, you've got a lot

22:05

of time on your hands,

22:07

therefore, everything that you

22:07

especially if you don't know

22:10

what you want to do, you need to

22:10

find out what you don't want to

22:13

do. And while you have this

22:13

safety net on centerpoint, try

22:15

everything. You know, you can

22:15

only say, Oh, I don't like it.

22:18

And then you can have the option

22:18

to not do it again. But you

22:21

know, not lacking something will

22:21

not kill you as long as it's

22:24

safe. And if Centerpoint is

22:24

giving it to you, it won't kill

22:26

you. For me, I think what I

22:26

needed to achieve my goals and

22:30

what kept me going and driving

22:30

forward when I was in the

22:34

services was the first day I got

22:34

into centerpoint, I went down to

22:38

the jobs board and said

22:38

management Morgan, here's my

22:41

number, I'm going to be a

22:41

director, I can sing I can

22:43

somewhat, all of those media

22:43

music opportunities hit me up,

22:47

because I just had to quit my

22:47

job. And I was always going to

22:50

see Centrepointe as an

22:50

opportunity to be something

22:53

about it was always going to be

22:53

my springboard, you've hit rock

22:56

bottom. So cool. If this is your

22:56

rock bottom, there's only up to

22:59

go. So you know, don't make this

22:59

show like, Oh, I'm homeless.

23:03

Yeah, you can have time to feel

23:03

sorry for yourself. Because

23:05

being homeless is hard. It does

23:05

take a toll on your mental

23:07

health and everyday is not a

23:07

good day. But at the same time,

23:11

what are we doing, because if

23:11

you want better than where you

23:13

currently are, there's work that

23:13

needs to be done, no one's going

23:16

to come and give it to you. Regardless, if you're homeless. Or if you're in a billion pound

23:18

house, no one's going to give it

23:20

to you, everybody has to work in

23:20

some form. Sense. People may

23:24

have privileges that make it

23:24

easier for them. But you have to

23:28

work regardless. So get to work

23:28

you and find out what you like,

23:31

find out also what you don't

23:31

like so you can steer clear of

23:34

it. And let's go, Oh also, as

23:34

well, sorry, have accountable

23:39

people that you're accountable

23:39

to so if you show key worker, if

23:44

you can make a list of them,

23:44

I've got to do three things this

23:46

week. Don't overdo it, Don't set

23:46

yourself 20 things to do three

23:49

things this week, every other

23:49

day, can you just call me and

23:52

check in on me and make sure I'm

23:52

doing what I'm doing.

23:55

Completely agree with that. And

23:55

also want to just touch on what

23:58

Dylan said about, you know, him

23:58

being able to go and speak to

24:01

the key workers, I had a really

24:01

good key worker Shibley. And

24:06

that really helped as well. For,

24:06

you know, young people like us

24:10

as well. It'd be like, do you

24:10

want to add anything to that? Or

24:15

did you just I just wanted to

24:15

say, go back to kind of like,

24:20

you know, for me it was having a

24:20

dream similar to George, you

24:23

know, a dream that I wasn't

24:23

going to let this idea of myself

24:28

being homeless get the better of

24:28

me, I remember myself first day

24:32

being in the hospital as well

24:32

just kind of thinking oh, I'm in

24:34

a system, you know, when this

24:34

system is going to kind of

24:39

swallow me up and I'm gonna

24:39

forever be in a system but I

24:42

just kind of, you know, had a

24:42

dream and I just kept, you know,

24:46

working on it. And similar to

24:46

what Robert Morgan said, you

24:49

know, the only way was hard for

24:49

me and in a similar way, just to

24:53

keep moving really, you know,

24:53

believing in your dream, whether

24:56

it's a small dream, just work

24:56

towards it. That was thing for

25:00

me, really. And I just like to

25:00

say, you know, one thing that

25:04

keeps me going every day is

25:04

having a job, I think, you know,

25:07

just something to wake up for, you know, awesome. Georgia, quickly go to

25:10

and then Morgan,

25:15

quickly touching on one or the

25:15

other just said, having a job.

25:18

That is another form of

25:18

achievement to me, you know,

25:21

having something that just keeps

25:21

you going, like you just said,

25:23

it's like, having something to

25:23

look forward to me normally, you

25:27

know, many people may not want

25:27

to look forward to getting up

25:30

every morning and having a job.

25:30

But like Morgan said, You've got

25:32

to work, you've got to put the

25:32

word hours into getting reward

25:36

for me. So again, that's a form

25:36

of achievement.

25:39

Great stuff. Morgan. Like I said earlier, to start, I

25:41

don't have any goals anymore.

25:45

Like, it's just wherever the

25:45

politics, that's, you know, I

25:49

guess, knowing that I've got a

25:49

future or like, for me, I will

25:54

admit, I used to be suicidal. So

25:54

for me, being alive, and keeping

25:59

alive is my goal, why I can't

25:59

No, I'm laughing at it. But

26:02

it's, it's just looking back in

26:02

the past and realising that, you

26:06

know, I've come a long way,

26:06

being able to have the

26:11

confidence to go out and go

26:11

shopping for me, I guess, is

26:14

also an achievement. The, like,

26:14

I don't set myself goals, I, you

26:19

know, just take the work that

26:19

I'm given any interviews, or any

26:24

stuff sent to me by Centerpoint

26:24

makes me happy as well, because

26:28

it's given me something to do.

26:28

It's given me work, it's given

26:31

me you know, like something to

26:31

go ahead and look forward to.

26:35

And then just, I guess, in

26:35

general, for, you know, like

26:38

young people in centerpoint, I

26:38

guess it is best around that

26:42

whole motivation to get up in

26:42

the morning, get any work that

26:45

you've been given, get that

26:45

done, or just simply know, like,

26:49

the small things like going

26:49

around cleaning in your

26:52

apartment, or the house that you

26:52

live in, you know, like, just

26:55

from key workers, you know,

26:55

having that little push and

26:58

shove to, you know, keep them

26:58

motivated, keep them going. For

27:01

me, and I'm sure Dylan can also

27:01

agree with me, Jay, as an

27:05

example, is one of the most

27:05

helpful people you can ever come

27:09

across. He motivates me he

27:09

boosts my confidence, and having

27:14

that sort of good relationship

27:14

where your key worker is, you

27:16

know, what, a lot of people in

27:16

Centerpoint need, you know,

27:19

like, if you don't have that,

27:19

you know, nice person to go to,

27:23

that you feel comfortable

27:23

around. And you know, like, you

27:26

build confidence from just a

27:26

motivation, they push you to,

27:30

you know, like, look ahead into

27:30

a future for yourself, how would

27:34

you expect anyone to move on

27:34

from centre point, if they can't

27:37

actually know, like, have that

27:37

death for them? I guess that's

27:40

my two cents for that. Thank you for that Morgan.

27:42

Nabila, I just want to say another

27:44

thing, which was very important

27:47

is like, you know, role models,

27:47

like having somebody you look up

27:51

to whether it can be, you know,

27:51

a key worker or anybody else.

27:54

And it could be anybody, you

27:54

know, really who's in a good

27:57

position that you feel that's in

27:57

a good position. But for myself,

28:00

I've always been inspired by

28:00

people, you know, who've come

28:03

from a disadvantaged background,

28:03

but really, like, you know, I'd

28:08

say made it in life. And that's

28:08

in like, compared to commerce.

28:11

Yeah. And they, they inspired me

28:11

and just, I've always thought,

28:15

like, if they can do it, I can

28:15

do it. And I want to be that

28:18

success story in the sense of

28:18

that person that I made look up

28:22

to be, you know, came from a

28:22

disadvantaged background, but

28:24

now they've made it and that's,

28:24

you know, I just think role

28:27

models are important, as well. The podcast from centre by young

28:30

people, for all people. We're

28:37

getting towards the end of the

28:37

episode. And I want to just

28:40

thank the panellists for their

28:40

insight so far. Also, just want

28:45

to Alex, your final, you know,

28:45

your greatest achievement so

28:49

far. And any final words of

28:49

wisdom you have, start with

28:54

George, or have many greatest

28:55

achievement, but I think the one

29:00

that's very styling, at the

29:00

moment is keeping things going.

29:05

For me, that's, that's, that's

29:05

my greatest achievement. Because

29:08

there's been times where things

29:08

could have gone wrong. So the

29:12

fact that I'm able to keep to

29:12

keep things consistent in my

29:16

life is one of my greatest

29:16

achievement. The one piece of

29:19

advice that I will have for

29:19

young people, whether they're in

29:23

a hospital or anywhere, it's to

29:23

take every opportunity that's

29:28

given to you and to take

29:28

calculated risk. And the last

29:33

thing I would say is don't sweat

29:33

the small stuff.

29:36

Amazing libido. So I'd say my greatest

29:38

achievement would probably be

29:42

unable to keep a job for as long

29:42

as I have, because having a job

29:46

has just helped me so much. And

29:46

yeah, I've been able to make my,

29:51

like family parents with that.

29:51

So for me, that's one of my

29:55

greatest achievements and the

29:55

advice I'd give to young people

29:59

is just Upon going, you know,

29:59

even just getting up in the

30:02

morning, you know, and just that

30:02

in itself is an achievement and

30:06

just being able to, you know,

30:06

maybe it's one thing that you do

30:09

a day, that's going to help your

30:09

future goal, I just say just do

30:13

it, even no matter how small, it

30:13

can be really, really small.

30:16

Just Just do it. Nice. Thank you for

30:16

that. Brooke Morgan,

30:20

just want to say, I know George

30:20

has to go. So I just want to say

30:23

if I knew he was really amazing

30:23

today, my mission for life is to

30:28

be a catalyst for positive

30:28

change. And she Oh, my nonprofit

30:34

organisation enables me to do

30:34

that actively. So I'd say that's

30:38

my greatest achievement in my

30:38

life thus far in my life's work,

30:42

helping others using the trauma

30:42

I've experienced, lets me know

30:47

that it wasn't in vain. And, you

30:47

know, goodness me the amount of

30:51

pain that I was in at one point

30:51

in life, it's nice to know that

30:55

it wasn't for nothing. And the

30:55

advice I would give to young

31:00

people would be create a y that

31:00

can drive you, regardless of the

31:07

space you're in mentally. So

31:07

when I say a Y, my Y is to be a

31:12

catalyst for positive change.

31:12

Now, regardless if I'm in the

31:16

depths of depression, or

31:16

anxiety, or just not feeling

31:21

good, or on the top of the

31:21

world, achieving something that

31:27

can bring me up, but it can also

31:27

ground me to check my ego. And

31:32

yeah, I aspire for balance in

31:32

life. So you know, that grounded

31:36

me, but also checking my ego

31:36

when need be, is what I'd advise

31:39

young people to do. Thank you

31:39

for having me

31:42

on our programme. Let's go to

31:42

Dylan, you know, your greatest

31:46

achievement so far. And any

31:46

words of wisdom you have for

31:49

young people, either. I'm a pretty prideful person,

31:51

like, even though I'm quite

31:54

quiet and shy sometimes, but I

31:54

have a lot of pride. And for me,

31:58

my greatest achievement was

31:58

actually like, pushing my pride

32:02

aside and getting the help I

32:02

needed for my mental health

32:07

especially. And actually getting

32:07

it and sticking to it, instead

32:11

of like, thinking I can do

32:11

everything for myself. And a

32:15

piece of advice I'd give to

32:15

young people in the same

32:19

position as me would be to start

32:19

small, not everything has to be

32:25

done. All in one go. You take

32:25

things step by step and get

32:30

things done little by little, brilliant. And after Morgan.

32:35

In all honesty, my biggest

32:35

achievement is just push it

32:39

aside the level that I have have

32:39

been autistic. I used to live

32:44

under the shadow of knowing that

32:44

fact. And it used to touch me

32:49

from day to day, once I grew the

32:49

confidence to like, push that

32:53

aside, and realise that I'm not

32:53

actually that much different to

32:58

other people. That is when I

32:58

started feeling like I was

33:01

actually achieving stuff, I

33:01

guess in life. So yeah, I guess

33:06

that's my greatest achievement.

33:06

But in terms of words of wisdom,

33:10

I don't know why Life's too

33:10

short. And just simply make the

33:14

most of it. Because if you are

33:14

breathing, and you are, you

33:17

know, like still looking ahead

33:17

into the future, then you kind

33:22

of, you're just winning in life,

33:22

like you may not be in the best

33:26

of situations. But if you still

33:26

like keeping her up, then that's

33:31

your like achievement right

33:31

there. So yeah, I think that's

33:34

probably the best words or words that I can give. Thank you for that. Morgan.

33:37

betta.

33:39

I just wanted to say one last

33:39

thing, touching on what Morgan

33:42

said, you know, I think it's

33:42

very important to find a

33:45

purpose. And that purpose could

33:45

be helping people, it could be

33:48

anything, but I just think it's

33:48

very important to find purpose

33:52

in life. I agree with everyone, where

33:52

everyone said, Brooke Morgan,

33:56

you want to say something, sorry, I just want to I really

33:57

believe in really appreciating

34:01

people I just really want to

34:01

give Morgan their flowers like I

34:04

just can feel that energy with

34:04

you that you just don't feel the

34:07

need to be what everyone wants

34:07

you to be and that is so

34:11

powerful and brave to do to go

34:11

against the grain to just

34:15

authentically Be yourself. And

34:15

it's not what the mould of what

34:19

everybody would probably want

34:19

you to be or likely to be but I

34:23

just feel like standing in your

34:23

truth is so much more powerful

34:26

and creating a mould for people

34:26

that actually are like you

34:30

because the fact that you have

34:30

no goals and you're absolutely

34:32

okay with that. I feel like it's

34:32

just beautiful and you're just

34:34

kind of like this like you're

34:34

achieving so much and in my

34:38

eyes. I think you're very successful but I just want to give you your flowers while

34:40

you're here to see it and that

34:42

you waking up each day that

34:42

props to you because I feel like

34:45

everyone will experience

34:45

suicidal thoughts in their

34:48

lifetime and know how heavy that

34:48

is just props to you. And I just

34:51

want to give you your flowers

34:51

and show respect to you. So move

34:54

you to be like you've grown so

34:54

much that people won't see what

34:58

you've grown so much and that

34:58

how that Just you're not I mean

35:01

authentic you are in for lack is

35:01

lovely to see because in about

35:04

in a world where society even

35:04

though we will ask that, oh,

35:08

just be this and just be that

35:08

but you never been afraid to

35:11

just come and just you know, if

35:11

you don't feel that way you

35:13

never feel pushed to to say you

35:13

feel that way. So yeah, I just

35:17

wanted to say that like I'm well

35:17

done Mitac for just jumping in

35:20

and hosting and thanks, Tamsin

35:20

for giving us this platform. And

35:23

well done Dylan, because you're

35:23

over there doing amazing as

35:25

well. Putting your pride aside,

35:25

I feel like ego is the biggest

35:28

and the baddest piece that

35:28

everyone has to fight. And once

35:31

we realise that we have to fight

35:31

internally with ourselves,

35:34

pushing our pride aside, like I

35:34

said before, getting the help

35:36

you need is amazing. And I'm

35:36

happy so much that this platform

35:40

has enabled you to grow and you

35:40

found like, it's helped you so

35:44

like, well done flowers to you, too. Yeah, I mean, give yourself more

35:46

credit. Everyone think you guys

35:51

did amazing job, you are still

35:51

doing amazing job in the fact

35:54

that you're still weird in

35:54

podcast. Even Dylan took real

35:57

guts to be on this episode as

35:57

well. So yeah, I mean, even my

36:01

good friend, you were says that

36:01

you we ourselves won't realise

36:05

the achievements that we're

36:05

doing. And other people can see

36:07

that. So you just have to carry

36:07

on going. So yeah, I mean, that

36:11

was super insightful episode. I

36:11

want to thank all the young

36:15

people involved. And our

36:15

panellists. Really appreciate

36:18

your insights. And I hope our

36:18

listeners can take something

36:21

from this and it can help them a

36:21

lot. And yeah, catch you back

36:25

here on the same same time next

36:25

month, we'll be exploring

36:28

Christmas through the eyes of

36:28

young people in supportive

36:31

housing. And yeah, this is point

36:31

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36:34

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36:37

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