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Welcome to point made

1:07

Centerpoint podcast by young

1:10

people for all people. I'm Jamie

1:10

and I will be hosting this

1:14

month's episode, which is

1:14

focusing on overcoming obstacles

1:18

and finding a way to carve out

1:18

your own path. This is very

1:22

important subject for young

1:22

people supported by Centerpoint

1:26

as they have to deal with more

1:26

than their fair share of

1:29

obstacles in life. And building

1:29

resilience is so important for

1:33

us. So hello, everybody. My name

1:33

is Jaime. I'm 27 years old, and

1:39

I'm a former Centerpoint young

1:39

person. I currently run a

1:43

project called moving upwards,

1:43

which helps young people explore

1:48

their trauma using dance as a

1:48

way to heal and move on. I would

1:52

say one of my biggest obstacles

1:52

would be loving and accepting

1:57

myself. And also not forgiving

1:57

myself for letting go of my

2:02

past. And I think that I've

2:02

often taken what's happened

2:07

quite personally. So blaming

2:07

myself for the things that have

2:11

happened, and not being able to

2:11

truly fully love myself because

2:16

of that. And I think that's one

2:16

of the biggest obstacles that I

2:21

face every day. But yeah, I've

2:21

learned a lot of things to help

2:25

me cope with that. And I'm sure

2:25

we'll go into more of that

2:28

later. But that's one of the

2:28

reasons why it's quite close to

2:31

me. And we are so excited to

2:31

have a very special guest this

2:36

month. Her name is fats Timbo.

2:36

Some may know her from the

2:41

Undateable ears, but she's also

2:41

a comedian, model and

2:44

influencer. However, I'd like

2:44

fats to have the opportunity to

2:49

introduce herself and explain

2:49

why this subject area has

2:53

personal significance for her.

2:53

Ah, hi.

2:56

So like you said, my name is

2:56

fats, Timbo. I am a model

3:02

comedian, dancer, influencer TV

3:02

personality. Gosh, like, sounds

3:10

like so much. But yeah, over the

3:10

years, I've just delved into so

3:16

many things like I feel like I

3:16

should be called Jackie of all

3:19

trades. Almost. But this

3:19

subjects touches like my heart

3:25

quite a bit. Because I feel like

3:25

my whole life I've just been

3:30

dealing with obstacles. And it's

3:30

important to let young people

3:36

know that. Yes, you will face

3:36

obstacles. And yes, you can

3:41

overcome them. So for me, I've

3:41

definitely like learned over the

3:46

years, how to overcome them. And

3:46

the more great things come your

3:52

way, the more problems as well.

3:52

So I've definitely learned how

3:56

to just overcome them really?

3:59

And do you have any, like

3:59

further insight on what it is

4:04

that you do to overcome those

4:07

obstacles? Yes. So for example, my biggest

4:08

thing that I've had to overcome

4:14

was accepting myself and giving

4:14

myself self love. So I feel like

4:20

how I did it was through

4:20

actually doing things that I

4:24

never do before. So for example,

4:24

modelling I never thought I'd be

4:30

doing modelling in my life. So

4:30

five years ago, when I saw an

4:33

ad, basically saying, Oh, we

4:33

want people with autism,

4:38

albinism, people, all types of

4:38

people with disabilities. I

4:42

thought to myself, Okay, I

4:42

basically call in my name. So

4:47

let me try it. You know, my

4:47

parents have always encouraged

4:50

me to try new things and always

4:50

like delved into things. So I

4:55

thought to myself, Okay, let me

4:55

try it. And this was like a

4:58

whole under I campaign. So this

4:58

was from zero to 100. And I feel

5:05

like it changed my life that day

5:05

when I did it because I was so

5:09

nervous to do it. So, so

5:09

nervous. And then when I

5:12

actually did it, I felt so proud

5:12

of myself because I realised

5:17

that I can do things that make

5:17

me uncomfortable. And

5:21

afterwards, I'll feel fine. So I

5:21

learned that that day. And that

5:25

was one obstacle. And then when

5:25

as soon as I started doing more

5:29

things that my brain told me I

5:29

couldn't do. It gave me more

5:34

confidence. It gave me more

5:34

higher self esteem. And it gave

5:39

me the self love that I needed. That's so empowering. I love

5:41

that so much. Thank you. Yeah, I

5:47

can, I can really, really relate

5:47

to that as well. But I actually

5:52

probably need to introduce

5:52

everyone. That is on the panel

5:57

today. So we have a lovely panel

5:57

of young people. Please can I

6:04

introduce Joshua?

6:07

Oh, yeah. My name is Joshua Anis

6:07

a, I'm a community

6:12

communications on business

6:12

developer Muslim. I'm also an ex

6:17

resident at Centerpoint. I used

6:17

to stay at Fairbank in

6:20

Manchester as well, for about a

6:20

year. Currently, I work a lot

6:24

with the advocacy side of

6:24

anything. I'm working with a

6:27

creative industry, but we are

6:27

nonprofit, meaning that we do a

6:30

lot of work in order to provide

6:30

opportunities to a lot of the

6:34

youth or people that are

6:34

overlooked in that demographic

6:36

within the creative industry. Or

6:36

we look for people to educate

6:40

about the creative industry,

6:40

because a lot of people believe

6:42

you have to be able to draw to

6:42

be able to do it. So right now

6:45

my main goal in life is to go

6:45

out and kind of give back what I

6:49

was given from some point, which

6:49

is education opportunities, and

6:55

a bit of encouragement to

6:55

actually be able to move on and

6:58

faster and better to do. Thank you, Joshua. And why is

7:00

this month's podcast episodes

7:05

important to you? It's important to me because it

7:06

gives me a chance to express and

7:10

make aware that even though

7:10

there are obstacles in life, and

7:14

everyone's life is gonna have

7:14

them. If you don't give up and

7:17

you keep pushing forward, and

7:17

you strive, and you find self

7:20

confidence in yourself to move

7:20

forward. Fundamentally, there's

7:24

gonna be new opportunities out

7:24

there, it's just sometimes

7:27

turning right instead of left

7:27

and meeting the right person can

7:30

change your whole life. So this

7:30

is important to me, because I

7:34

know I'm not the only one that

7:34

struggled. And it kind of gives

7:37

me over people that I could

7:37

connect with, and a chance to

7:39

share my story at the same time. Thank you so much.

7:43

So we also have Noddy. Hi, sir. I'm naughty. I'm 21

7:45

years old. And I'm currently a

7:49

college student going into uni

7:49

this September. And also

7:53

currently a young person in

7:53

Santa Fe, and I've been here for

7:57

a year, but I'm also in my

7:57

moving process, going into

8:01

independent living. As a young

8:01

person living in centre pain. I

8:06

felt like for a very long time,

8:06

even before I came to

8:09

centerpoint, I was going through

8:09

a lot of obstacles and facing a

8:12

lot of things. And because of my

8:12

background, and my community,

8:16

mental health wasn't really a

8:16

thing. So I had to kind of teach

8:20

myself about my feelings and

8:20

what I was feeling and come out

8:24

these obstacles alone. And you

8:24

know, try to understand. I think

8:29

this was really important to me,

8:29

because I know that there's a

8:32

lot of people that suffer with

8:32

this, but don't know what it is

8:35

or how to come over these

8:35

obstacles.

8:39

Yeah, 100% agree. That's why I

8:39

think it's important for me as

8:44

well, just just to reiterate,

8:44

like, I think it is really

8:47

important for me as well that we

8:47

do things like this because we

8:51

need to shed light and share

8:51

awareness on like, exactly what

8:55

the challenges are what you can

8:55

do to help yourself out of them,

8:59

right? Yeah. Hi, I'm a shanty. I'm 19 years

9:01

old. I'm a current young person

9:07

at some point. This subject is

9:07

really important to me, because

9:12

I'm a person that really looks

9:12

at other people situations, and

9:16

kind of sees if I can relate so

9:16

that I could offer the best

9:20

advice or kind of relate in a

9:20

type of way. I feel like a lot

9:24

of the stuff that I do is kind

9:24

of a healing process for me, I

9:29

guess, because hearing other

9:29

people's experiences and seeing

9:33

how they got through it, I would

9:33

say has definitely helped me and

9:38

surprised me in a way. Hello, I'm Ben. I'm 22 years

9:39

old. I'm a former Centrepointe

9:44

resident, I was sent to point

9:44

for two years. So one of the

9:48

biggest obstacles I had to

9:48

encounter was going into

9:53

hospital into an inpatient unit

9:53

at the age of 15. And sort of

9:57

working on myself for about two

9:57

and a half. For years, we've ran

10:01

the clock therapy, which is an

10:01

obstacle in itself every single

10:04

time that comes around. And then

10:04

leaving that and going into the

10:09

world itself was was another

10:09

obstacle in itself and finding a

10:14

sort of place to live. And

10:14

that's when sort of Centerpoint

10:16

came in, and was able to help me

10:16

find that place to live and

10:20

support me further to now where

10:20

I am now, which is just a sort

10:24

of, as still as certainly

10:24

supported but a different

10:26

accommodation. So it's quite nice. Oh, that's really good to hear.

10:29

Thank you, Ben. So that is

10:34

everyone introduced, I believe.

10:34

So we're going to move on to the

10:39

areas of discussion for the

10:39

episode. Now, how would we

10:43

define what an obstacle is? And

10:43

I have put down here, I've

10:50

defined an obstacle, that's

10:50

something that puts an

10:54

emotional, physical, mental,

10:54

spiritual, ecological burden

10:59

over yourself, what would you

10:59

define as an obstacle in life

11:04

facts, I would define an obstacle as

11:05

something you have to overcome.

11:10

Obviously, you touched on it be

11:10

an emotional, spiritual, all of

11:15

those things, something one of

11:15

those, but to overcome it, you

11:19

have to find a way to see what

11:19

that challenging thing is, and

11:27

basically, move past it or find

11:27

ways to just reach an end goal

11:34

to it instead of letting it stop

11:34

you. If that makes sense.

11:38

Because an obstacle is basically

11:38

something that stops you from

11:42

doing something. But you have to

11:42

find a way to navigate out of

11:48

it. Yes, they say the only way out

11:48

is in Right? Exactly. Amazing.

11:55

Thank you so much, Josh. obstacle to me is something that

11:57

is between you and your ego that

12:00

is no more than a hurdle or bump

12:00

in the road or a pothole in the

12:03

road, something that you can

12:03

manoeuvre around something that

12:06

you will have to sometimes climb

12:06

over. Sometimes you might need

12:08

to prepare a bit more. Sometimes

12:08

you might need help. But it's

12:12

something that doesn't stop you

12:12

just challenges you to see or

12:16

determine kind of thing you are

12:16

to actually achieve your goal.

12:19

And honestly, I think the main

12:19

time ahead or obstacle really

12:24

does stop here is if it becomes

12:24

mental. And then you start to

12:27

tell yourself that you're not

12:27

capable of achieving what your

12:31

actual goal is, or capable of

12:31

actually getting to the end of

12:35

the road, so to speak, where you

12:35

actually go realise, so that's

12:39

to me what obstacle is, but I

12:39

agree, it can be mental,

12:41

physical, emotional, spiritual,

12:41

is just something that's in

12:45

between you and your goal. But I

12:45

don't believe that obstacle is

12:48

something that stops you just

12:48

takes a bit of preparation to

12:50

get around or over. I completely agree. I have to

12:52

say, I don't think that

12:56

obstacles are there to stay

12:56

forever. But obviously, it is

13:00

something that's been created

13:00

that needs to be dealt with. So

13:04

I think these kinds of

13:04

challenges almost turn, turn out

13:08

to be lessons in life so that

13:08

you can get to the next level.

13:12

Not even a shanty. What would

13:12

you guys define as an obstacle?

13:17

And I'm not easy. I think for me

13:17

personally, an obstacle is

13:23

nothing more than like a step on

13:23

the way like, it's just another

13:27

step that you have to take. And

13:27

it might be bigger than the step

13:30

before or you might be more

13:30

challenging than the step you

13:33

did before. But you have to get

13:33

through that step so that you

13:37

can get to the goal that you're

13:37

trying to work towards. So I

13:40

feel like even though obstacles

13:40

are sometimes a negative thing,

13:45

there's always a positive

13:45

outcome because you've been

13:47

through it. You've learned from

13:47

it and it's like, now you're

13:50

wiser from it. A shanty here, an obstacle to

13:52

me, I definitely say is a

13:57

challenge. And I thought like

13:57

everybody has to face challenges

14:01

in their lives. And I feel like

14:01

an obstacle gets your brain

14:06

thinking. It gets you thinking

14:06

about the next step. It gets you

14:10

thinking about how can I get

14:10

through this? How can I overcome

14:13

this? Yeah, I saw like an

14:13

obstacle definitely gives you

14:17

more power. And it kind of I

14:17

feel like obstacles make you to

14:21

drive in a way because at least

14:21

you can say oh, to get here. I

14:26

went through this and I got

14:26

through this and I'm strong. So

14:31

that's an obstacle T thank you so much santi 100%

14:33

agree with with that that you

14:37

always come out stronger and

14:37

wiser. The end. So thank you.

14:43

Finally we have then could you

14:43

please tell me what you think?

14:49

You will define as an obstacle for moments just running inside?

14:52

Sorry, it's just been windy. I

14:56

didn't expect that. Okay. Oh

14:56

gosh, it's decades. Okay. That's

14:59

another obstacle. Go. Okay, I

14:59

think I agree with everyone on

15:05

the I like Joshua's driving

15:05

metaphors. I like everyone's

15:08

examples of the obstacles, and

15:08

overcoming my breath. So I've

15:15

just had to deal with the

15:15

obstacle of the stairs, I'm

15:17

extremely out of breath and not

15:17

as healthy as I once was. By

15:24

obstacles physical health.

15:24

Anyway, I agree with everyone on

15:28

the on the on what they've said,

15:28

so far being lost is quite

15:31

difficult in this sense, because

15:31

everyone sort of said,

15:34

everything that I wanted to say,

15:34

and that's fine. obstacles, I

15:38

think obstacles allow us to

15:38

grow, and to develop as people.

15:42

And I think they're quite

15:42

important in our lives. I think

15:47

an obstacle is a challenge,

15:47

propose something that we have

15:51

to tackle in order to grow. And

15:51

in doing so by learning how to

15:56

overcome those challenges. Now,

15:56

we can learn how to overcome

15:59

them easier in the future and

15:59

adapt to that, so that we're

16:02

able to continue growing and

16:02

continue overcoming these

16:05

challenges to become the person

16:05

that we are in the future.

16:08

Yes. I'm like clapping for that

16:08

response, I love. Yes, to make

16:20

you become who you're meant to

16:20

be. I love that. Thank you so

16:24

much, everyone, like I really

16:24

genuinely resonate and relate to

16:30

everyone's responses. And thank

16:30

you for being so open. And just

16:36

honest, it's really nice to have

16:36

just an authentic conversation

16:40

about real life. So yeah, thank

16:40

you for that. So I'd love to ask

16:46

your opinion on how you think

16:46

the best way is to navigate

16:52

social media. I was looking

16:52

online earlier. And it says here

16:58

that 40% of young people 26% of

16:58

young boys and 54% of young

17:05

girls have admitted that images

17:05

on social media caused them to

17:11

worry about their own body.

17:11

Could you agree, or relate or

17:16

just share? You definitely agree? Because, you

17:17

know, it depends on who you'll

17:22

follow in, to be honest with

17:22

you, because you can follow the

17:26

most beautiful people in your

17:26

eyes. And think, why am I not

17:31

skinny enough? Or why am I why

17:31

don't I have a beautiful nose or

17:35

like this person, but I feel

17:35

like it definitely can make you

17:40

feel insecure, and feel like

17:40

you're not doing enough as well.

17:43

But we need to remember,

17:43

everyone shows their best

17:47

pictures. They don't show the

17:47

whole cup or roll of what they

17:52

did. You know, and most of these

17:52

pictures are face to face, as

17:57

well. So people need to remember

17:57

that as well. That they're

18:01

comparing themselves to

18:01

basically something that's not

18:05

real. Nine times out of 10 it's

18:05

just better to just tell

18:09

yourself that, okay, they might

18:09

look like they look better than

18:14

me, but just see it as

18:14

inspiration. See, as Oh, they're

18:19

wearing nice clothes, where do

18:19

they get their clothes from? I

18:21

can get the same clothes as

18:21

them. For me, I like to follow

18:25

people that don't make me feel

18:25

insecure, as well. So there was

18:31

a point in time, I didn't want

18:31

to look at my feed because it

18:35

just made me feel like rubbish.

18:35

And then I thought to myself,

18:38

I'm gonna unfollow the people

18:38

that make me feel a type of way,

18:43

you know, and I started

18:43

following people that have

18:46

disabilities like me, I started

18:46

following people that have big

18:50

personalities. And that made me

18:50

laugh and people that have

18:55

amazing arts and things like

18:55

that, not for not accounts that

18:59

are all about the image and

18:59

luxury and things like that,

19:04

because that's not me, you know.

19:04

So, I feel like to navigate

19:08

social media, you need to make

19:08

you feel good, basically. So

19:13

follow the people that make you

19:13

feel good. That's the best way

19:16

to navigate. Thank you for that. 100% I need

19:17

to take some advice from what

19:22

you're saying there myself,

19:22

because I can definitely relate

19:26

to, you know, comparing myself

19:26

and my life to You know, people

19:32

that may have way more money

19:32

than me and way more resources

19:37

or like, you know, better health

19:37

better connections and we don't

19:42

know what what someone has or

19:42

how they've got it.

19:45

They're showing the best five

19:45

minutes of themselves, you know,

19:50

as well. So many people say, oh

19:50

my god, your story looks

19:54

amazing. And then I'll tell

19:54

them, the event I went to wasn't

19:57

amazing. I just showed the best

19:57

parts

20:00

Yeah, it's an extremely filtered

20:00

version of

20:03

exactly. I just wanted to add a little

20:04

bit on what facts were seeing.

20:08

Because I feel like that

20:08

resonated a lot with me. I feel

20:11

like growing up, I wasn't on

20:11

like Instagram for a while. So I

20:15

came when I was wrong. I joined

20:15

Instagram when I was 16. And

20:18

then that time, I was just

20:18

seeing things and pictures of

20:21

people and like people that did

20:21

not look like me. And I just

20:24

always felt like, what's going

20:24

on, you know, everyone looks

20:27

like this. And it kind of had me

20:27

thinking a lot. And I felt like

20:31

I had to overcome and realise

20:31

that, like I said, this is just

20:35

the best five minutes of their

20:35

life. And if I pose in a certain

20:38

way I can get no wherever

20:38

they're doing that. It's not

20:41

that plus people pay for these

20:41

things. And they're not always

20:43

realistic. And there's not

20:43

really the raw footage. I had to

20:47

kind of tell myself that and it

20:47

just be happy with what you've

20:51

got. And it took me a while but

20:51

I've definitely say now social

20:56

media doesn't really affect me,

20:56

because I've really took on

20:59

understood that it's not real.

20:59

And if I wanted to, I could go

21:03

to the gym, but I don't really

21:03

like the gym. So it's like, I'm

21:08

just gonna like what I've got

21:08

it, you know? So yeah, that's

21:11

about it. Thank you. My intake on social media,

21:13

honestly. I used to be kinda

21:18

like everybody else, kind of

21:18

competitor, myself kind of

21:21

always wondering how everybody

21:21

else has got it. And it took one

21:26

conversation with the

21:26

influencer, that actually

21:29

changed my whole perspective on

21:29

it, we will all compare

21:32

ourselves to this one person

21:32

that we will see go viral pretty

21:35

much that being the main term,

21:35

and we will see a handful of

21:38

people on social media that are

21:38

doing well. What we don't ever

21:41

pay attention to is why have

21:41

they got so many 1000s of

21:44

followers? Why have they got so

21:44

many millions of followers, is

21:47

because there's Oh, there's more

21:47

people in common with me

21:50

watching that person, you know,

21:50

I've gotten the business or I've

21:53

got the luxury lifestyle. And

21:53

there's probably a million of us

21:56

feeling the same way. Rather

21:56

than actually acknowledging the

21:59

fact that actually, there's a

21:59

million of us out here that are

22:01

actually more common to each

22:01

other than this one person that

22:04

we're trying to compare

22:04

ourselves to, just like you,

22:07

everyone else is probably trying

22:07

to learn from that person or see

22:11

the influence from that person,

22:11

or possibly even comparing. So

22:15

now, it's just a state of just

22:15

like faxes as well. The only

22:19

people that I see on my social

22:19

media are people that I've

22:21

businesses, be involved with me,

22:21

see me develop, or people I want

22:25

to see develop, or I feel like

22:25

I've got more of a, likewise in

22:29

common with what you're saying about trying to make sure

22:31

that you just focus on your own

22:34

life, and not some stranger that

22:34

you're never going to meet

22:38

probably. Lately, I've just been

22:38

trying to really, really stay

22:43

present in the moment. And just

22:43

literally basking in gratitude

22:48

for my own life and for

22:48

everything that I have in it,

22:51

because the more that you think

22:51

about it, the more that you

22:54

realise how blessed you actually

22:54

are, the more grateful that you

23:00

can be for everything that you

23:00

have, the easier life comes.

23:03

There's a lot of different

23:03

corners of social media. And

23:06

there's like a lot of different

23:06

things, you can see anything on

23:09

the internet. But I've actually

23:09

got a different corner of the

23:12

internet that I follow, which is

23:12

a lot of people's sort of brains

23:15

in action. So I actually take

23:15

part in what's known as speed

23:19

running or a community where

23:19

people play video games. And

23:22

they try and beat them as fast

23:22

as possible, which I think is

23:25

absolutely fascinating. And just

23:25

the technical skills and the

23:28

competition. I just love

23:28

following that, because it's its

23:31

own sort of sport in a way. And

23:31

one of the things I also like

23:34

watching is it's sort of chess,

23:34

and people's brains and the way

23:38

they think about these

23:38

situations, the way they solve

23:41

these problems that I can also,

23:41

after a period of time of

23:45

watching them, I'm able to solve

23:45

myself makes me feel so much

23:48

more confident in my abilities,

23:48

being able to be in this

23:52

community and being able to run

23:52

with the big boys in some sort

23:55

of way. Obviously not there yet,

23:55

but I would love to be there one

23:59

day. But obviously, there's also

23:59

the dark sides of social media,

24:03

which, sadly, I've got a 13 year

24:03

old sister and she sort of come

24:06

across these dark sides of the

24:06

internet. And it's like, it's

24:09

just you find out horrible

24:09

things. And I get these very

24:13

awkward questions. It's just it

24:13

made it very difficult because

24:17

my sister is quite young, and I

24:17

did when she's on social media,

24:21

and learning all these things.

24:21

Maybe she's learning the wrong

24:24

things. If that is a thing to

24:24

learn the wrong things.

24:27

I think that we our brains can

24:27

be conditioned in many ways

24:31

depending on what we feed it. So

24:31

the brain is obviously extremely

24:36

receptive, so it can affect your

24:36

actions. Ultimately, I keep my

24:42

screen time on the front of my

24:42

phone. And it's right there

24:46

exactly how many hours or

24:46

minutes that I've been staring

24:49

at my screen. And I'm very, very

24:49

conscious of it. Now I have time

24:53

blockers on all of my apps. So

24:53

it forces me to rethink what I'm

24:59

doing and it If I really need to

24:59

be on my phone in that moment,

25:03

have you heard of the forest

25:03

app, it gives you these little

25:07

like little trees and plants

25:07

that you can grow in the time

25:11

that you don't spend on your

25:11

phone. So it sort of encourages

25:14

you to not spend time on your phone as much. Thank you so much for sharing.

25:16

Yeah, I highly encourage

25:19

anything to stop you getting off

25:19

of your phone. So I really

25:23

wanted to ask, we don't have

25:23

very long at all. So I'd love to

25:26

be able to ask, that's a

25:26

question for when we finishing

25:31

up, I would love to ask you,

25:31

what advice would you give to

25:35

your younger self, the advice I would give to my

25:37

younger self, is to not worry as

25:43

much. And realise that over

25:43

time, you will learn how to face

25:50

these obstacles. And these

25:50

obstacles in the future won't

25:54

feel like obstacles or just feel

25:54

like, Oh, I've done this before.

25:58

I know what to do, like, type of

25:58

thing. Because in the past, I

26:03

used to feel like I couldn't do

26:03

anything or I was hopeless. I

26:09

felt like life. It just wasn't

26:09

worth it. Like, honestly, so to

26:15

speak. I used to feel like that,

26:15

like life is just what is the

26:19

point. But now because I've

26:19

overcome my obstacles, and I'm

26:23

still facing obstacles, but now

26:23

I face it with confidence. So

26:28

the advice I'd give to my

26:28

younger self overall, is you are

26:34

going to be confident over time,

26:34

you're going to know how to face

26:37

your obstacles, and you're going

26:37

to be a Barbie to say,

26:42

yeah. Yeah, yes. I love it so

26:42

much.

26:52

I'd like to ask the same

26:52

question like, What advice would

26:55

you give to your younger self? Um, wow, I would think about

26:57

answering that. But I guess, to

27:06

just like, focus on the things

27:06

that bring you joy and have

27:10

appreciation for where you are,

27:10

because you won't be able to

27:16

reflect and look back and move

27:16

forward. If you don't appreciate

27:21

where you are. Don't lose hope

27:21

and don't give up on yourself.

27:26

Facts. The thing I will tell my younger

27:28

self is life changes. And so we,

27:35

at the end of the day, if you

27:35

cannot pause for the small

27:40

appreciations and to admire the

27:40

small parts that make the bigger

27:44

picture, you're never really

27:44

going to enjoy the big picture,

27:48

you're always going to be

27:48

striving for something more. And

27:50

that's when pride will turn to

27:50

greed. So yeah, that's what I'll

27:54

tell you as life changes. So

27:54

we'll get into network and as

27:59

soon as possible. That is fantastic. I used to be

28:02

so scared of that work. And now

28:06

I'm like just a chatterbox.

28:06

Yeah, gotta

28:10

love it. Gotta love it. Exactly.

28:15

I've got something I'd like to

28:15

say to my younger self. I feel

28:19

like if there was one thing it

28:19

would be to not overthink

28:23

things, because I remember as a

28:23

kid, every little small detail

28:28

of life, I would just overthink

28:28

it look my way I have a whole

28:30

storyline for that just one

28:30

specific detail. And I used to

28:34

panic a lot. And just think

28:34

about, like, if I don't do

28:38

nothing, nothing will happen.

28:38

But I feel like time did it all

28:41

for me. Like with time, I slowly

28:41

started to learn and flourish as

28:46

a person. So it would just be a

28:46

worry, that stretched itself.

28:51

And time was it all for you take

28:51

it one step at a time.

28:55

I wanted to say that one thing I

28:55

will tell my younger self is to

29:00

be strong, hold tight, and it

29:00

will be worth it. And definitely

29:07

to stay focused on what you

29:07

want. And never let anybody come

29:11

in the way of that or anybody

29:11

stop you from going on your

29:15

journey and getting to where you

29:15

need to be.

29:17

That's a That's great advice,

29:17

guys. Honestly, I wish I told

29:21

myself that much younger. Took a while to realise and

29:24

accept but we're finally here.

29:28

Yeah, yeah. Love that. I'd give myself

29:29

the advice that it's okay not to

29:37

be okay. And communicate what

29:37

you need when you need it. You

29:42

know, and not not to delay it.

29:42

Because the sooner you get the

29:47

help you need, the better it is

29:47

for you. You know and there's no

29:52

need to be embarrassed about

29:52

these things. And it's, it's

29:55

communicating with people that

29:55

you trust, to sort of understand

29:59

that you're Not Alone attaches

29:59

things quite important. And I

30:02

wish I knew that a lot younger

30:02

so I would be hopefully in a

30:05

better place now. So I really liked what you said

30:07

about say, you know, just just

30:13

being okay with with not being

30:13

okay. And I think it's a

30:19

difficult thing to be able to

30:19

actually really do, I really

30:24

struggle to admit that I'm going

30:24

through an emotional breakdown

30:28

when I'm in the middle of like,

30:28

feeling emotionally broken down,

30:32

you know, like, I tried to power

30:32

through it as if it's not as bad

30:37

as it is. So I think just being

30:37

okay with that is quite hard

30:44

thing to do. And with you, you

30:44

know, saying like, you know, not

30:48

being embarrassed or whatever, I

30:48

really hear that for the male

30:52

use as well, not being able to

30:52

feel like they can express what

30:58

they're going through. But

30:58

that's a whole other

31:00

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