In this episode, Michael Starr Hopkins interviews Mark Caputo, a national political reporter, about Ron DeSantis' exit from the 2024 Republican primary campaign. They discuss the reasons for DeSantis' campaign failure, including his awkwardness and treatment of people. They also explore DeSantis' current position as governor and his potential future as a lame duck governor. The conversation touches on the lessons learned from losing a presidential race and the vulnerabilities of Joe Biden in the 2024 election. They conclude by discussing the future of the Republican Party after Trump and speculating on Trump's potential VP pick.

Takeaways

• Ron DeSantis' campaign failed due to his awkwardness and treatment of people, including his staff and voters.
• DeSantis' lack of connection with voters and his focus on his accomplishments in Florida hindered his campaign.
• DeSantis' treatment of staff, including firing those who leaked damaging information, showcased his attitude and approach to power.
• The next Republican nominee is likely to be a blend of establishment and grassroots, similar to Donald Trump.