Mike talks with journalist, author, and policy analyst David Frum. Mr. Frum is currently a senior editor at the Atlantic. From 2014 through 2017, he chaired the board of trustees of the leading UK center-right think tank, Policy Exchange. He's served as a speechwriter and special assistant to President George W. Bush and as senior adviser to the Rudy Giuliani presidential campaigns. He's also the author of nine books, most recently Trumpocracy: The Corruption of the American Republic.

In the conversation, they cover, among other things:

• how Bill Clinton monetized the post-presidency
• America as a toddler in heavy traffic
• Donald Trump and punching babies
• the ‘neither ethical or smart’ Trump administration
• Congressional leaders enabling Trumpocracy
• whether the American political system can handle the Trump presidency

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