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Life After an Eating Disorder, Healing Body Image + Where We are Now

Life After an Eating Disorder, Healing Body Image + Where We are Now

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Wednesday, 31st January 2024
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0:01

The following podcast is a dear media production. Hey guys,

0:03

really quick before we get into the new episode, we're

0:05

so excited to be back, but we wanted to give

0:07

a little disclaimer that we are talking about how far

0:09

we've come with eating habits. We even touch on eating

0:12

disorders a little bit. So if this is something that

0:14

triggers you, just reminder to take care of yourself. And

0:16

if this episode is not the one for you, then

0:18

we will catch you guys next week. We had Ash

0:20

and Taryn on and did a really fun episode. So

0:22

you will love that one. If you're interested, hope you

0:24

love the episode. Pretty

0:35

basic. Hey you guys. What's up?

0:37

Welcome back to the pod. I

0:39

am your co-host Alicia Marie and

0:41

I'm your co-host Remy Cruz and

0:43

welcome officially to season six of

0:45

pretty basic. Wait, season six, right?

0:47

Season six. I can't, that's actually

0:49

like really crazy to say we've

0:51

been doing pretty basic just as

0:53

long, if not longer now than

0:55

I've been doing YouTube, I think,

0:57

which is that's actually been crazier

0:59

to say. Wait, no. Yeah. I've been

1:01

doing YouTube for like 10 years, 11 years and

1:04

we're at six. Oh, I'm thinking it'll just, it'll

1:06

never, unless you quit YouTube. Right?

1:08

No, no. You know what I mean? No, no.

1:10

It'll always be longer now from now moving forward.

1:12

It'll be longer than my time on YouTube without

1:15

pretty basic. Pretty basic. I was like, Rem, that

1:17

doesn't, the math is not, I don't think so.

1:19

Right? No, no,

1:22

no. I know what you mean. Okay. The

1:24

time of without pretty basic. I

1:27

got B P B and APB

1:29

before pretty basic and a after

1:31

pretty basic. Wow. We have

1:34

missed you guys so much and I know

1:36

that sounds weird, but let's be real. We're

1:38

all in a para, what a parasocial relationship.

1:40

Yep. And we're best friends and someone here

1:42

is commuting to work and they're like, we

1:44

need new updates. You guys have been gone.

1:46

You pre filmed a lot of videos, which

1:49

I know they're grateful for, but you know,

1:51

a pre film is still a pre film.

1:53

You know, they want to hear what's going

1:55

on with the girlies. And then we did

1:57

take our annual break. So technically

2:00

we haven't been in the studio in like two months.

2:02

It's been about two months. Which is actually really wild

2:04

to think when we left.

2:06

It feels like we left yesterday. Like two months

2:08

feels like it was way longer than it actually

2:10

was. But I love how I'm

2:12

really excited to be back here and I'm really excited

2:14

to film. And I feel like the break we always

2:16

do, basically, I don't know if

2:18

this is interesting to anyone, but contractually, we've

2:20

signed with a network or

2:23

any podcast that signs with a network. Like you have

2:25

X amount of your ring.

2:28

I forgot to wear my ring. Oh my God, no, I freaked out

2:30

because you looked down and you realized you're not wearing your engagement ring.

2:32

And I realized we did a workout class this

2:35

morning. So then part of me was like, I

2:37

just like forgot to wear it for the past

2:39

week. Sorry, continue on. I was worried we left

2:41

it at the workout. No, no, no. We're

2:43

good. We left it at the workout.

2:45

Really? I'm in this relationship too. Okay,

2:48

we'll get into that later. Sorry, sorry. No,

2:50

no, I was just saying for people who

2:52

are with a network, obviously you sign a

2:54

contract. So legally, we only have like 48

2:56

weeks that we're

2:58

contractually obligated to upload a podcast

3:00

episode. I'm like, that's the tea.

3:03

So we can do with those other weeks, whatever we want.

3:05

I feel like some podcasts will just like take breaks throughout,

3:07

randomly be like, hey guys, no episode this week, whatever. We

3:10

choose to put it all together because then it's like

3:12

we get a little summer vacation from you guys and

3:15

then we come back with new stories and

3:17

we're excited and pumped. I love our little

3:19

break. I miss the pod so much. I

3:21

miss all of the stories

3:24

that we bring every week, but I will say

3:26

it's nice to take a little break because obviously

3:28

first of all, blog miss kills. And then also

3:30

it's nice to just have like a little break

3:32

to gather some stories and come

3:35

back with some fresh new content,

3:37

some continuity content. The first

3:39

one of the season, content maybe content.

3:42

And I did make a little shared note for us

3:44

to add throughout our

3:46

break. You're giving me the full on Chloe face

3:48

just there. No, no, no, like you okay? No,

3:50

you were given this. Really? Yeah,

3:53

you were given lip. Yeah,

3:57

mouth exercises. Hmm

4:01

maybe a little I'm such a Botox

4:03

girl now by the way gets it

4:05

once Oh my god, my life is

4:08

changed so many updates I'm now fully

4:10

pumped and ready to take on

4:12

the year. I can't move my forehead and it's

4:14

the best thing I've ever done Okay

4:21

Wait, I want to talk about this more. Yeah,

4:23

please. Okay, you have for years You

4:26

keep telling me I'm gonna get both. I'm like Remy you

4:28

do not need it yet Literally the nurse was like you

4:30

don't need it. I was like shoot it up girl

4:34

I am so jealous because I truly I

4:36

said this to my channel yesterday I don't

4:38

think the videos out but I was like

4:41

I think from years of making the shocked

4:43

youtuber face like Permanent

4:47

damn I believe a ring on

4:49

my face. I started cracking like a

4:51

little raisin when I was like 24 like I You

4:56

know genetics to let's be real. Um,

4:58

so you are blessed gravity I don't even feel

5:00

like you need it now But isn't it weird

5:02

how before you probably heard me or other people

5:04

explain Botox to you like? Oh, yeah, it freezes

5:06

your muscles. So you can't move it and

5:08

then you think how like that I can't

5:11

understand it and you get it done and that's

5:14

exactly what it feels like I mean

5:16

throwback to it must have been probably

5:18

two seasons ago now or maybe one season

5:20

ago What is time where I said I

5:22

wanted to get Botox and then you told

5:24

me not well You told me that I

5:26

could die so then I didn't for like

5:29

a year after which you actually can die

5:31

You're supposed to not lay down after you

5:33

get it for the first four hours because

5:35

you said that it could like travel Right depends

5:37

who you ask some doctors will tell me. Oh,

5:39

that's just more of a miss like blah blah

5:41

blah They just mean like don't be laying down

5:44

when you get it done because or whatever I

5:46

don't know. So who knows I'm not a doctor

5:48

But all I will say is our nurse says

5:50

to not lay down So I trust her because

5:52

trust Bell with your life Bell B L dot

5:55

y. Oh, oh you guys I Love

5:57

to like give her her flowers because she's

5:59

amazing seeing her Thursday. I know I love her

6:01

so much. She's amazing. And I've been doing the

6:03

master bow talk for a while now, which I

6:06

talked about this on a TikTok and a lot

6:08

of people said they also struggle with TMJ and

6:10

didn't know that it could alleviate pain. And I

6:13

recently started going to a chiropractor and I was

6:15

saying how I have TMJ. And he's like, well,

6:17

how much pain do you have? I was like

6:19

zero. Yeah. After doing master bow talk. Well, I

6:21

can't fill it. No, truly. It's like, it basically

6:23

just like softens the muscle. So you're not clenching

6:25

your jaw so much and it's a game changer.

6:27

But I decided, um, I mean, when you're listening

6:29

to this episode and exactly a week, I'm turning

6:31

29. And

6:35

so I'm just kidding. I'm sorry. I'm kidding.

6:38

Now I'm going to give you the play days.

6:40

I'm just kidding. But I was like, you know

6:42

what? It's time. Freeze her up. It's freezer up.

6:45

I've also decided, I meant to tell you this

6:47

today. I've decided, um, with

6:49

this new season of pretty basic, I'm going to

6:52

try to care less about what people might think

6:54

of what I say. Oh, and

6:56

live authentically. And

7:00

even if what I say, if it gets taken

7:02

the wrong way or people don't agree, then you

7:04

know, I have to remember my true

7:06

intention. Oh my God. A thousand percent. I'm going to work

7:08

on that. I mean, all to say, I froze my forehead.

7:12

All to say, guys, it's so worth it. I really do.

7:14

I did enjoy it. I will say, I got it. I

7:16

got just that literally just a smidge. Cause Bella's like, you

7:18

really don't need it. But like, if you want it, you

7:20

can. And I was like, I'm feeling, I was feeling like

7:23

I was moving my forehead a lot. And I talked about

7:25

this in my tik tok where I was like, I don't

7:27

know if this is like a Korean mom thing or an

7:29

Asian mom thing, but like I would be in second grade

7:31

and I would raise my eyebrows and she'd go stop and

7:34

she put her finger and like rub my forehead and be

7:36

like, you're going to get wrinkles. So it's been ingrained since

7:38

I was like eight to not do that, which is kind

7:40

of sad. It's also kind of sad. But then a lot

7:42

of comments were like, no, it's an Asian mom thing. Oh,

7:45

apparently so. And so I started feeling a

7:47

little bit of movement. I think gravity, I

7:49

think just age with YouTube thumbnails, YouTube thumbnails

7:51

was getting to me. So we put just

7:53

a little micro drop like Lily here, here,

7:56

and here, and I can't move it. And

7:58

half of me was like. with my anxiety

8:00

like oh my god my face

8:03

is trapped like i did cross my mind and then

8:05

i was like wait no my

8:07

face is trapped i

8:09

can't move i can't move my face

8:12

i can't move my face that's

8:15

so fun it's what's crazy

8:17

to me is botox specifically

8:20

obviously we can see how it can look

8:22

really bad with people but i think the

8:24

common misconception is when people see others

8:28

with overly filled faces they

8:30

associate that with jennifer coolidge

8:32

from cinderella story yeah like that's more filler than botox

8:34

i feel like i mean i do think if you

8:37

get too much botox and you can't move your face

8:39

like that's a choice oh that's a choice though who

8:41

am i to judge whatever people

8:43

like think is beautiful for

8:45

themselves but i and and

8:49

but we've all seen like a little much but

8:52

good for them if they want that

8:54

that's their face who am i to say but i thought

8:58

that i would be more scared of the feeling

9:00

and i'm not coming on here and saying everyone

9:02

should get botox but like i enjoyed my experience

9:04

i have to say what's crazy is again we've

9:06

grown up with a lot of people listening so

9:08

it's it was weird

9:10

going through similar times in

9:12

life together and i guarantee there's a lot of

9:14

people listening who have been debating botox and they're

9:16

like do i get it do i not i

9:18

don't want to look crazy the best advice i

9:20

ever heard before i ever got botox was

9:23

my friend who she's done acting a lot

9:25

but she's also an acting coach she was

9:27

explaining how she was really insecure about a

9:29

lot of her wrinkles and obviously being an

9:31

actress she wanted to get botox however you

9:34

have to show your face like a fashion

9:36

yeah if you want to be you know

9:38

not your actress and so

9:40

she found someone who she liked but

9:42

also understood what natural botox is like

9:44

basically when you go and like say

9:46

you want to look natural um you

9:49

want it very minimal and i guess in my head again

9:51

at that time i only saw it as extremes like

9:54

you get botox and you just can't move or

9:56

laugh or smile and you're like you know what

9:58

i mean like when you drink so long I

10:00

just feel like literally like

10:02

Cinderella stories that is. So

10:05

yeah, I felt like finding someone who, I

10:07

just did a video, I did a main channel video of

10:09

work I've gotten done that I don't regret. And then I'm

10:11

gonna do one of work I've gotten done that I do

10:14

regret. Give us a little taste test. Oh my God, well,

10:16

I've done some things on TikTok. And then I thought, I

10:18

was like, this should be a really good main channel video,

10:20

you know? Especially because a few years ago, I

10:22

would have never talked about anything.

10:25

And the biggest thing that I was saying

10:27

is, you have to find someone,

10:29

a nurse injector, like whoever

10:31

you're using, whoever you choose to use, who

10:33

doesn't make you feel like shit. And you

10:36

would be surprised how rare it is to

10:38

find someone who still wants you to

10:40

look like you and isn't gonna be like,

10:42

yeah, you should change this. I've seen a lot

10:44

of people and it's more rare, sadly, to

10:46

find someone who is like, no,

10:49

I want you to look like you. Like, you know,

10:51

well, if you, obviously, yes, if that's what they want,

10:53

but there's so many times they'll be like, oh yeah,

10:55

let's fix this. And I'm like, I didn't come in

10:57

for that. And

10:59

then I like formed the new insecurity. Or

11:01

I'm like, oh, I didn't know that needed

11:03

fix. Yeah, you know? So yeah,

11:06

Belle, I love her. I've only ever seen Belle, so

11:08

I've only had a great experience. Oh

11:10

my God, no, she's amazing. And yeah, but that's

11:12

one thing that I stress because obviously, you know,

11:14

wherever you live, like you just assume

11:16

professionals know. And it's like, no, like if they make you feel

11:18

weird, don't give them your money. Don't give

11:20

them your time. Don't give them anything because like, like

11:24

it is, a lot of these things are insecurities. And

11:26

it's like, it's just, oh, I'm so passionate about that.

11:28

I feel like unless you're asking, what

11:30

would you do to my face? Don't say

11:32

it. Then yeah, they shouldn't be saying anything. Yeah, for sure. That's

11:35

not, that's not cool. Oh my God, yeah. Me leaving

11:37

was like, okay. And then I can't say no to people. So

11:39

I'm like, dude, they're like, do you want your cheeks filled? And

11:41

I'm like, sure. Have you gone your cheeks filled? I got it

11:43

done once and I regret it. So I have to sneak peek.

11:46

Did you dissolve it? No,

11:48

but this is years ago. So I'm sure there's maybe there's,

11:50

I don't even know. I don't know. I don't know why

11:53

I did it. I think, cause normally you pay per syringe.

11:55

So, and this was filler. So

11:58

I paid for the whole syringe and I didn't use. all

12:00

of it because I put it in my lips like forever ago. So

12:02

she's like, yeah, I saw it a little bit less. Like, do you

12:04

want it anywhere else? And I wish I just

12:06

said no, throw it away because it's either going in the trash

12:08

or it's going in my face. You know what I mean? Yeah.

12:11

Where obviously this is LA or any big city. I'm sure there's a

12:13

lot of girls who are like, pump me up, like put it all,

12:15

you know, whatever. She's like, we already

12:17

paid for it. Like, do you want it? She's like,

12:19

we can put it in your cheeks. I was like,

12:21

okay. But like it did nothing. It just made them

12:23

swollen and made my face rounder weirdly enough. Well, I

12:25

believe your fillers, you're putting something in. Like that makes

12:28

sense. I recently was talking to a friend who got

12:30

a gastric bypass surgery, which is like where they go

12:32

in and cut your stomach so that your stomach is

12:34

smaller. And she

12:36

was telling me that she went to go see the doctor

12:38

in LA who did her gastric bypass. And she said he

12:40

was a very nice doctor, but the doctor was like begging,

12:44

like, can I give you a BBL? Like, can I

12:46

give you a BBL? Because, oh, I think she was

12:48

like a tummy tuck or something. Like there was something

12:50

where there was like excess fat of her own and

12:52

the doctor was like, please, can I give you a

12:54

BBL? And she was like, no, I don't

12:57

want a BBL. And they were like, but like, do you

12:59

know how many people would pay to like have

13:01

this fat for me to do something? And she was like,

13:03

no, I don't want a BBL. And he

13:05

was like, please, like let me do it. I'll do it for

13:07

free. I'll do it for free. Oh

13:09

my, I don't even want to get into the whole like

13:12

pre cosmetic surgery stuff. Like,

13:16

okay, BBLs are so dangerous too. It's

13:18

definitely the most fatal surgery you can

13:20

get, correct? Yeah. It's so

13:22

bad. It can be very bad. And then on top of

13:24

it, I have to have someone begging you. I'd be like,

13:26

damn, is my ass that fat? There's

13:28

no flat? Yeah. I'd

13:30

be like, shit. Like, damn, let

13:33

me do some spots. I thought that was crazy,

13:35

but also like BBLs cost how much? I was

13:37

like, there's just- Oh my God. Why is he

13:39

begging? Crazy. Anyways, how was your

13:41

break? Sorry, I just had a moment where I realized,

13:43

oh, I can't believe I really thought a lot of

13:45

those like fitness people just did

13:47

squats and had an abs. Well,

13:50

do you think a lot of them have BBLs? I think

13:52

a lot are genetics. 90% angles. And

13:55

then it's just funny because

13:57

there was that era where it

13:59

was like, oh, I just- I have a BBL and then I make money off of my

14:01

whatever book and like develop what you know what I mean? That's

14:04

crazy. 26 people at a time. I'm fraud

14:06

you. Anyways, my break. It

14:08

was great. My break was honestly very

14:10

good. Vlogmas

14:14

was weirdly a lot, but also

14:16

it went by so quick. I

14:18

felt the same way. It went by so quick. I

14:20

definitely felt like a little bit of a zombie in

14:22

the sense of every day I was just really tired.

14:26

But you know, we got through

14:28

it and I even announced I was

14:30

like, this might be my last vlog.

14:32

Do you really think it's going to be your

14:35

last? I think it's going to be my last

14:37

where I go into it saying I'm going to

14:39

do every single day and have a cool intro

14:41

and I'm going to fulfill it because that's the

14:43

thing I've learned. I think I just need to

14:45

give myself the grace of I don't

14:47

have to do a crazy intro next year and

14:50

I don't have to like upload every day

14:52

where I know I'm just such

14:54

a person if I say I'm going to do something. I like

14:56

keeping my word to myself. Weirdly, not as

14:58

much to other people. To myself. I

15:02

don't know if anyone else can relate to that, but like elaborate

15:06

more. I don't mind having

15:08

to cancel plans. I'm like, yeah, sure. Whatever.

15:12

Like you need to be here. I used to be like that.

15:14

And then we became friends and now I'm like, I'm

15:17

like, get this. We can cancel. No,

15:19

well, Alicia's really texting me before and been like,

15:22

you can cancel. You're allowed to

15:24

cancel things. And I'm like, and I can't. Yes.

15:27

I'm like, we don't have. I'm like, we were just going to

15:29

literally go like two of the movies. Like we can go anytime. But

15:31

it's really nice that you say that. Yes. So

15:33

sorry. But with myself, if I

15:35

say I'm going to do something, it really I feel

15:38

like I like having that trust with myself of

15:40

like, if I'm going to holding myself accountable, which

15:42

I think that's why

15:44

I'm all or nothing, which kind of sucks because if I

15:48

say I'm going to do it, I'm like, well, now I have to. I have to do

15:50

it. And so along with specifically, if I say

15:52

I'm going to do every single day, it bothers

15:54

me if I don't. You know what I mean? I

15:57

understand that. Like OCD vibes, but I think that

15:59

was my life. last like vlogmas as everyone knows

16:01

it because maybe it'll be the same but maybe

16:04

it'll change and also maybe it'll be weekly

16:06

or every other day or posting every day

16:08

somewhere. But I'm definitely gonna like at this

16:10

point I want to attend to next year

16:12

obviously. As you

16:18

know we unfortunately are over sharers. Some

16:20

people view it as a weakness, some

16:22

people view it as a strength. But

16:24

hey you would be surprised that when

16:26

we share the most painfully embarrassing damn

16:28

bad stories people actually will message us

16:31

thanking us for sharing our experiences. A few

16:33

episodes back I shared that during the pandemic I

16:35

was having really really bad back pain. Night after

16:37

night for weeks Cal would use that massage gun

16:39

on me and it was getting worse and worse

16:41

and I was just feeling defeated because it just

16:43

wasn't getting any better. So thank God, oh my

16:45

God, I saw a doctor I was very embarrassed

16:47

but I also was relieved that I finally had

16:49

answers. I mean that's why it's so important

16:52

to take the guesswork out of your health and go

16:54

to doctors that you can actually trust and confide in.

16:56

Enter ZocDoc, the place where you can find

16:58

and book doctors who will make you feel

17:00

comfortable and actually listen to you. The next

17:02

time I need a new doctor I'm definitely

17:04

going to use ZocDoc. ZocDoc has tens

17:07

and thousands of doctors all with verified patient

17:09

reviews so you can get the vibe for

17:11

how they administer care. And you can search

17:13

by location, availability and insurance. So literally no

17:15

compromises here because with ZocDoc you've got more

17:17

options than you know so why settle? I'm

17:19

not even kidding. When Ollie was not doing

17:22

so well and was having trouble even getting

17:24

himself out of bed or making appointments I

17:26

made him a ZocDoc profile and I made

17:28

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19:49

You're going to be married next Vlogmas, right? No,

19:51

no, no, not yet. One more. Oh

19:54

my God. I've actually thought about it. As

19:57

of right now, I think I'm going to do it

19:59

full force. as my last one before

20:01

I get married. Because I think once I get married,

20:03

I'm sure to some degree things will change. So I

20:05

don't know if I have as much time. Definitely when

20:07

I have a kid, you can't do

20:09

vlogmas and have a kid. I mean, actually look

20:11

at the family vloggers. But I know what you

20:13

mean. Like obviously it's a huge factor that changes

20:15

things. It's just weird getting older because

20:17

I remember thinking, well granted

20:20

we're not there yet. But I remember thinking, what happens

20:22

when I get engaged with my vlog channel? What happens?

20:25

Like what is my career gonna change? Like

20:27

those are always days that you've always thought of

20:29

oh that's so far in the future and here

20:31

you are entering that. So I feel like that

20:33

has to feel like

20:36

not bittersweet but interesting, right? Just like a whole

20:38

new chapter. We've had a lot of, and it's

20:40

funny because it wasn't an overnight thing. It's like

20:43

it's gradually happening. Like even as I speak right

20:45

now, Kal and I have had a lot of

20:47

conversations lately where I'm like, if I'm just set

20:49

up with something or something's bothering me, I'm like,

20:53

I'm too old for this. Like I am in a new era. Like

20:57

your priorities change. I have not

20:59

even started a like of wedding planning. Like I don't

21:01

even know anything that's happening but I'm

21:03

like, I'm planning a wedding. I have other things I

21:05

need to worry about. Wait, you're

21:07

so right. You're like, I'm

21:10

planning a wedding. But like actually in a

21:12

real sense, my

21:14

priorities are changing. Like I can't go on as many trips.

21:17

I can't do all the fun things that I used to

21:19

be able to do as much. Like I was obviously like

21:21

so grateful to do but there are

21:23

certain things I have to say no to now because I am

21:25

wedding planning. But that's what, I mean that's priorities because you can

21:27

do all those things. But you're

21:29

choosing, you know what? As much as I would love to do this, I'm

21:32

choosing, you know, as

21:34

much as I'd love to like throw my

21:36

huge elaborate misfermiation party. Exactly. Before it felt

21:38

like it was like, why not? Where now

21:40

it's, you can see, wow, well this could

21:43

actually go towards like my kids college. No,

21:45

exactly. It's like really thinking about, yeah. Like

21:48

things that are actually more in my

21:51

line of sight than

21:54

they used to be. It's still far away, but I'm like,

21:56

okay, well that is something I can think about. So yeah,

21:58

sending my kids to school. or getting a

22:00

mom car, things like that. Oh my God.

22:03

It's so far away, but it's just, it's

22:05

actively in my brain. Wait, we did this

22:07

for me on Pretty Basic, but you're

22:10

about to enter your last year of your 20s. Should

22:14

we talk about that? Is there anything you like want to do? I

22:16

know this year was a big deal because this was

22:19

the first year we did vision boards together. I

22:22

know. And I loved it. Which I

22:24

have to say, I haven't

22:26

kept up my 2024 resolutions. What

22:28

do you mean? Things have already come true. Okay, well, I do

22:30

want to get into that. I do. I

22:33

think Miss Rumi's psychic is the thing. Manifestor.

22:36

I think. I'm a little worried. No,

22:38

I'm scared of myself. I really am.

22:41

I love, and we should like have Ollie on and talk

22:43

about this more, but he's always been the one who's like,

22:45

we should, you need to manifest, you need to manifest, you

22:47

need to manifest. And then like slowly but surely he was

22:49

like, actually like, I think you're

22:51

already doing it. But in a different way.

22:53

My way of manifesting is just, being

22:57

happy. I'm so sorry, real quick.

23:01

Never forget, back when everyone had

23:03

Instagram feeds and like theme, mine

23:06

was very like light and pastel with

23:08

some whites and whatever, like other people

23:10

had very moody vibes, purple or they

23:12

would color code. I remember being like,

23:14

Remy, what's your theme? Your theme, like

23:16

your feed. She goes, happy.

23:18

No, it was having fun. Having

23:21

fun. My theme is

23:23

having fun. But I love that

23:25

though. I think, I'm sorry, I was kidding about being

23:27

happy. Which I mean, being happy is great. But in

23:30

my head, my idea of manifesting and like when

23:32

I tell Ollie this, he's like, it's kind of,

23:34

it's like, yeah, that's close enough. Like, why

23:37

not think good things are gonna

23:39

happen? And if they don't, then they don't. But

23:41

like, if they happen, then amazing. And that's just

23:44

my thought process with like, I did

23:46

decide to vision board this year, which I've never

23:48

done before, because as I said, I'm not a

23:50

dreamer, but I've realized, I think I

23:52

am a dreamer. You know what? And I've been

23:55

waiting for this thing for so long. Every

23:57

New Year's resolution. I'm

24:00

like, these are my list of things I

24:02

want to work on. And you're like, I'm

24:04

good. I'm like, damn. I do think it's

24:06

important to strive for things. And

24:09

I've come around to that thought process. What are

24:11

some things that have already come true? Oh

24:13

my god, you guys. So I've been saying this since

24:15

we started Pretty Basic. And I started hearing my own

24:17

voice in my headphones. I was like, I

24:19

want to be a voice actor. I want

24:21

to do an animation show. Or like,

24:24

not a movie. Sure,

24:26

why not? Just because I

24:28

love, I have a special

24:31

place in my heart for animated things,

24:33

whether it's like Studio Ghibli or Cartoon

24:35

Network, Powerpuff Girls, Rock Power, all the

24:37

things growing up. Pixar, et cetera. Exactly.

24:39

Just like, I have a very strong

24:41

love for those things. And

24:43

so I've now done two voiceover auditions. Not

24:45

voiceover, I keep calling it the wrong thing.

24:48

Us and the acting business. Wait. We could all.

24:53

Wait, what? Auditions? Auditions for

24:55

voice acting? I

24:58

mean, right? That's what it's called, right? Yeah. Auditions for voice acting.

25:00

That's what it's called. Yeah, yeah. Us and the

25:03

movie business. Clearly. I

25:06

auditioned for the Baby Shark movie. Didn't

25:08

get that one. But that's OK. Wait,

25:10

that's an iconic movie. I know. It's

25:12

so funny because I was like doing it. It's my first audition

25:15

ever. And I was like, I'm so going to get this. Like,

25:17

how am I going to celebrate what I get? I've

25:20

had that too, where you're like, this character

25:22

is me. Like, I feel it. This is

25:24

me. My character was Starrianna, played by Ashley

25:27

Tisdale. My character. So what I auditioned for.

25:30

Starrianna, Ashley Tisdale, friend

25:32

of the show. I'm sorry. I'm in such

25:34

a goopy mood today. No, I love it. Her assistant.

25:37

And I didn't get that one. You do have such

25:39

a good voiceover, animated voice. Like, if I close my

25:41

eyes and you talk right now, say something. Hi.

25:46

Oh, I still see it. I

25:49

really? Like, I put the fucking blanket over my head. And

25:51

I was like, how am I going to celebrate

25:54

when I get this part? And then I got the

25:56

email. And I didn't get the part. And I was like, at least they

25:58

let you know. Usually you're like, OK, I got it. about

26:00

it well I wouldn't know because my second

26:02

role that I had to see before

26:04

I got everybody I'm

26:09

gonna be in an animated TV show and I'll

26:11

let everyone know when it comes out it's a

26:13

new show I'm so excited for you thank you

26:15

can't wait to add it to my sizzle oh

26:17

my god your sizzle so

26:22

I did but actually I don't know if I put that on my

26:24

inspo board but I just talk about it a lot and I was

26:26

telling my blog when I found out I got the news I was

26:28

like you need to just say things

26:31

out loud more

26:33

so so you can be like I told you

26:35

so to everyone and yourself and myself and but

26:37

also just like why not speak it out into

26:39

existence also what I just love it so much

26:42

so that was on your vision board um in

26:44

I don't think I actually put it on there

26:46

I thought you did did I maybe I did

26:48

it's not even February yet and it

26:51

happened yes my

26:53

big thank you so much my big vision

26:55

board thing is I want to meet Pharrell

26:57

this year so I'm just putting that out

26:59

into no you gotta put it out there

27:02

Pharrell maybe someone right now maybe someone right

27:04

now is literally headed to their

27:06

Pharrell assistant yes yeah or they're like best

27:08

friends with his assistant they're like wow he

27:10

needs something I'm sure I

27:13

think he's doing fine I think he's like the

27:15

lead uh at Louis Vuitton no he's fine

27:17

yeah but maybe he loves

27:19

food and you

27:21

cook you're so right but no I

27:24

love I love putting it out there more I think

27:26

that we all should thank you so much

27:28

and I love you no I really we

27:30

need a moment because you've been killing work

27:33

and you've like truly even even

27:36

how Ollie would tell you no like

27:38

have dreams whatever my biggest thing with

27:40

you sounds like you're unstoppable already

27:42

imagine if you tried imagine

27:45

if you actually try meanwhile

27:47

I'm like damn like she just

27:51

walked like happy no because you have to speak

27:53

it into existence and I want to hear right

27:55

now what did you put on your board what

27:57

has come true and what are we most looking

27:59

forward to Oh my God, well,

28:01

there's been a few random small

28:03

things that I think

28:06

this goes full circle. I think there were random things

28:08

on my board. Actually, I have it as my background.

28:11

Oh my God. Same. The big

28:13

quote that I have on it is that's

28:15

why we create art. That's why we consume

28:17

art to connect. And I saw that

28:19

and I was like, wow, I

28:22

truly feel like I just want

28:24

to get back to even this

28:26

podcast, realizing that there are people

28:28

listening to this and to

28:30

be able to connect to them, however

28:32

that is. And obviously when we first

28:34

started YouTube and growing an audience, it

28:36

was very different because I distinctly remember

28:39

doing a haul saying, if a shirt's

28:41

over $15, I'm sorry, I'm

28:43

not buying it. That's so expensive. But

28:45

I was a broke ass college student. And

28:48

then as I've grown and I've gotten more

28:50

into fashion, there's little things about my life

28:52

that I feel like then I would have

28:54

thought is so unrelatable. I don't know. I

28:57

think obviously the only way to grow an audience so big

28:59

is connecting with them and realizing who

29:01

your audience is. And I

29:04

don't know. I just feel like now, regardless

29:06

of views or money or anything

29:08

like that, I just want to connect to people

29:10

and find new ways to connect. I love that.

29:12

And I think part of that comes down to

29:14

opening up more sides of myself and letting

29:17

people into things. But also,

29:21

I don't know, even the times that we can

29:23

sit and think of, oh, like what another video

29:25

like what do we do? We've done everything. It's

29:27

like, no, like how can I connect to someone

29:29

right now? I've been doing lots of like, if

29:31

Alicia was to have a solo podcast episodes on

29:33

my main channel and I've been loving that. I

29:35

watched them all. I watched every video. I was

29:37

watching your TikTok video this morning. Oh my God.

29:39

I loved it. Which one? The testing, the TikTok

29:41

shop stuff. Oh my God. Thank you. Yeah.

29:44

No. I don't miss a video.

29:46

I don't know. I like, oh my God.

29:49

I want to get better at that. Sorry.

29:51

That was my quote, which already amazing. I

29:54

did put Forbes on here again. Yeah. I

29:57

don't know if you caught this, but a few weeks ago we were in

29:59

a text. and someone mentioned

30:02

something about Forbes and it was really cool, because

30:04

I feel like it's less about hitting the goal,

30:06

but it's more about those little like glimmer

30:08

moments where you're like, wow, I dreamt of this.

30:10

Wow, I thought about this. Wow, I really hoped

30:12

for this. And it's here where if

30:15

without thinking, I don't know, like now I'm more aware

30:17

of it, you know? Well, I'm sure, I mean, did

30:20

that happen while we were on break, by

30:22

the way? Yeah. Bitch, tell, say

30:25

it. Wait, what? You getting on Forbes. Did

30:28

that happen while they were here? yeah, we

30:30

were here. Oh, I thought, sorry, yeah. Well, Alicia

30:32

was in Forbes. No, no, no, yeah, that's it. And

30:34

I'm sure it's like similar to that thing where

30:37

when we were growing our YouTube channel, so it's like,

30:39

I just wanna hit this, and then you hit it

30:41

and you're like, oh wow, that was attainable. Okay, well

30:43

now I wanna hit this. So I'm sure you being

30:45

in Forbes was such obviously like the craziest thing ever

30:47

and so exciting for you in your career. It's been

30:49

so unattainable. Yeah, and then once it happens, you're like,

30:51

oh my God, I can reach for even more things.

30:54

Oh my God, I'm just putting this out. I'm putting it out there.

30:57

I somehow, I don't know how, but I love them.

30:59

I have been so blessed to work with Beyonce's hair

31:02

brand, which is officially launching really

31:04

soon, not sponsored, because I got

31:06

an invite. And I just, I feel like

31:08

I'm so close to meeting her. I met her mom,

31:10

I need to meet Beyonce. I want to meet her.

31:12

I just wanna, I don't, not even meet, I just

31:14

wanna like stand next to her and just like, I

31:17

don't wanna meet, you're gonna be there. Like I just, I

31:19

would love to, I would love, like that sounds so crazy

31:21

and it sounds delusional to think that like that could happen.

31:23

But I just feel like that I'm just like, oh, so

31:25

she's on my board. Cause I just like, I love her

31:28

so much. And I

31:30

would probably faint, but like, I just, I, oh

31:33

my God. She's said her name before. It's so

31:35

weird because when you share your dreams and goals

31:37

with friends, you either, it's

31:40

like if it's too big, it's easy for

31:42

people to be like, oh cute, like that'll never happen.

31:44

But then you also wanna have a goal that's,

31:48

if you only have goals that you know

31:50

you will attain, then

31:53

what's the point of like, you're scared to

31:55

reach for more. Yeah, but I also

31:57

think if you have friends who are like, that's cute, that'll

31:59

never happen. and you need new friends. I know that

32:01

too. You shouldn't have that. I know. I'm

32:04

thinking of if I was to still be living in Riverside or

32:06

something and I said, like, I want to meet people on the

32:08

side and people would be like, yeah, that's right. You know what

32:10

I mean? But still, you couldn't meet her at the

32:12

gas station. You're so right. You know what

32:14

I mean? I don't think you should think about that.

32:16

Like, if you're listening to this and you have friends

32:18

who like poop on your dreams. I'm thinking of like,

32:21

Alicia and Riverside, like, people like, yeah, shitting on your

32:23

dreams. Yeah, that's a problem. I

32:26

need to like. I

32:28

believe I can't wait for things

32:30

to happen. So I can be like, I knew that

32:32

would happen. Yeah, that's amazing. Even I

32:34

always think about this as like how literally like

32:36

Walt Disney was told no by so many banks

32:39

and they said his idea is crazy. No way.

32:42

Yes. Multiple banks. And that's why the

32:44

bank that's with them now was the first one that ever,

32:46

you know, how they have that employee. There's that.

32:48

Oh my God. The bank that they're

32:50

with is the one from the very beginning. Oh, I had

32:52

no idea. Yeah. So imagine being told

32:54

no. And this is something I struggle with.

32:57

I feel like I really can be reactive

32:59

sometimes. And I let other people. I

33:03

let other people's reactions affect me or mine

33:05

or I'm very much in a reactive state.

33:07

Like depending on what this person says

33:09

or does, I'll react a certain way, which

33:12

I wish I was a little more of a bulldog.

33:15

And just regardless of what

33:17

you think, well, I know my idea is amazing. I'm going to

33:19

go to someone else. You're not it. Like if you if it's

33:21

a no, you're the wrong person. Like that's something I feel like

33:23

you hear a lot in this industry. And

33:25

I unfortunately feel like I let people's know be like, oh,

33:28

you're right. I'm not good enough. Or oh, you're right. It

33:30

is a bad idea. And that negative. It's so funny

33:32

because you're either like one way or the other. And

33:35

sometimes I wish and I know that goes with not

33:37

caring about people think and blah, blah, blah. But

33:39

like, so not that I wish I was just like, didn't give a fuck more. You

33:41

know what I mean? Be like, well, fuck you,

33:43

whatever. Like, we don't want you anyway. However, if you

33:45

do go get cosmetic surgery and then they

33:49

do not take like, fuck them. Like it's weird when

33:51

I'm passionate about what I'm not. And obviously that comes

33:53

with experience and getting older. But even when we first

33:55

started parallel, I felt like I was very just

33:58

like, oh, like, do you think this This is a good

34:00

idea. Instead of just, you know, you bitch, I

34:02

wear that square neck tank every, I packed it

34:04

in my bag. And I wore one

34:07

for the next episode. It's

34:09

true though, you know, like, yeah. And I,

34:12

and you know, Walt Disney, like, you

34:15

know, I feel like we all can tap

34:17

into that side more. It's frozen head. And

34:19

if they said, if you get to know,

34:21

you're asking the wrong person, you're gonna know

34:23

you're asking the wrong person. I do believe

34:26

there's like a fine line though, because I

34:28

feel the same way, but I'm

34:30

also very well aware that like in

34:32

this industry, I kind of, while I know

34:34

things, I also don't know anything at all,

34:36

because we're kind of just thrust

34:38

into this. Well, when you're in your lane

34:40

and you're trying to hop into another lane,

34:43

whether that's voice acting, or whether that's the

34:45

clothing business, you know, I feel like

34:47

both of us really like to respect that lane of like,

34:49

we're aware that, you know, this is the whole- We're surrounded

34:51

by professionals. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, we're actually, you know, where

34:53

maybe some other influencers would come in and just be like,

34:56

rawr, you know? It's true. Also like

34:58

dealing with imposter syndrome, like I, oh, I said

35:00

this earlier with the baby shark, when I was

35:02

like, I'm so gonna get this, just cause I

35:04

was being delusional. And then when I didn't get

35:06

it, I also was like, duh, I didn't get

35:08

it. So when I did this audition for the

35:10

second one, I was like, I'm

35:12

not gonna get this. Like, I know I'm not gonna get

35:14

it. So why should I even try? But I didn't, cause

35:16

I said I would do it. So I got it in

35:18

all time. And then I got it. But

35:20

I feel like when I got it, I was like, well,

35:23

why did I get this? You know what I mean? It's

35:25

like, it's a mind fuck. This is like silly as I'm being

35:27

in like, as confident as I seem. I'm

35:30

not really. No, the few

35:32

table reads and like acting I did,

35:35

I had such imposter syndrome. I was

35:37

aware that people just think I'm the

35:39

dumb influencer who like doesn't deserve to

35:42

be here and they're like professionals. And

35:44

again, obviously that's not everyone. But

35:47

imposter syndrome sucks. No, truly, when my agent told

35:49

me I got the deal, I was like, who

35:52

at the show is a REM life viewer?

35:54

Like who? Who's daughter wants

35:56

a photo? And that's fun. And

36:00

I'll take it I'll take it but it's

36:02

definitely a weird it's a weird weird feeling to

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42:28

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42:30

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42:32

was on there. Kelly Clarkson, I want to

42:34

go on the Kelly Clarkson show. Oh, just

42:36

like a lot of wedding stuff since this

42:38

is the year of planning the wedding. Oh,

42:40

I had like vegetables on there because I

42:42

want to take better care of myself this

42:44

year. And I have to say I really

42:46

have been this month already. Last month was

42:48

kind of hard for me because obviously Vlogmas

42:50

is such an ongoing routine

42:52

and I know a lot of people don't, you

42:54

don't get it unless you do it. But it's

42:56

such a, you go to bed and I would

42:58

be editing my video from like 8pm till midnight

43:00

one or two and then go to sleep. And

43:02

then I wake up in the morning and get

43:05

it up and then start walking again. Like it's

43:07

a constant, constant. So last month I

43:09

really wasn't able to take care of myself. I

43:11

talked about how I've been on, I was on

43:13

some of Glutide when I was

43:15

last year. I'm not on some of Glutide anymore, but I was

43:17

talking about the medications that I was on and how I was

43:19

thinking of my PCOS journey.

43:21

And last month I was not very diligent because

43:23

I didn't have the time. So this month I

43:25

was like, I'm going to start taking

43:28

better care of myself again, eating better,

43:30

working out more, getting back

43:32

in the routine. And I have, and

43:34

I feel amazing. I love that. I'm

43:36

so happy. And through all the trial

43:39

and error and tribulations that I've been

43:41

through with my PCOS journey, which

43:44

I'm so grateful also to everybody who was so nice

43:46

and supportive and has been so nice and supportive with

43:49

me and sharing everything that I've been

43:51

on. I was definitely nervous that people are going to be like mean

43:54

about it. And everyone's been so nice and

43:56

supportive. I think because they've seen all

43:58

the shit that I've gone through all these years I've

44:01

been able to reach out to other influencers

44:03

or a lot of influencers that

44:05

come to me and that is what's

44:07

gonna drown out all the hate when

44:09

you realize like wow

44:11

I've been able to help other people like

44:14

even if it's one person whether an influencer

44:16

or not or you know we're at a

44:18

meetup and someone says like that is gonna

44:20

overpower any hate or negativity because

44:23

it's like no like this has

44:25

actually changed my life and I feel so

44:27

grateful that my knowledge helps someone else even

44:29

save six months of trying to find a

44:31

doctor or whatever exactly oh my god well

44:33

even even more than that like the experimentation

44:35

that I put my body through for

44:37

so many years and so many medications that doctors had

44:39

me on and then we're the next doctor be like

44:42

get off that and then the next doctor be back

44:44

on that. Why'd you ever get

44:46

off? Exactly all the things so I'm like having

44:49

to put my body physically through that my mental

44:51

through that all the things was not great but

44:53

I got a comment

44:56

in Vlogmas that Brittany Broski had just posted

44:58

a podcast that day so I'm sure she

45:00

just had recently recorded it saying that she

45:03

just got diagnosed with PCOS and she wasn't

45:05

sure what to do and she felt so

45:07

hopeless and someone said hi can you

45:09

check out her podcast and reach out to her so I

45:11

texted her she came on another front of the show I

45:14

texted her and was

45:17

like hi I've been dealing with this for like seven

45:19

years at this point now I know all these things

45:21

I now have this doctor that I love I gave

45:23

her the referral I was like do this this is

45:25

this and then let me know how it goes and

45:28

she was so nice and so appreciative of everything and

45:30

like for me to be able to go through all

45:32

that to like share that with

45:34

someone so that she just got her diagnosis

45:36

literally like that week and then

45:38

to immediately have all the resources that she needed

45:40

so happy for her and then she went on

45:42

her podcast recently started seeing the doctor said she's

45:44

so excited for the future like said thank you

45:47

to me I would love to get her back

45:49

on the show and talk about it honestly because

45:51

so many women struggle with it but yeah it's

45:53

been I'm so happy and I have so much

45:55

energy and I'm so excited. Full circle speaking of

45:57

canceling plans last night you checked me really late

45:59

and I was with a friend and I was like,

46:01

oh my God, I'm hoping room wants to cancel

46:03

the workout in the morning But

46:10

like even I was like, I don't know if like

46:12

like it's just a lot to get started and back

46:14

into that routine Yeah, but seriously

46:16

after doing it and leaving I felt so good

46:18

and it really you really have to go off

46:21

of just how you feel It's like such a

46:23

game changer. I also have been

46:25

really Kind of

46:27

treading that fine line and it's like an

46:29

inner struggle I saw this um, like talk

46:31

recently where it was like if

46:33

you're a woman who's had an eating disorder Which I know a

46:35

lot of people in general. We've also a lot of us have

46:38

struggled with it you and I both have like

46:41

Do you ever get over it and there all the comments were

46:43

like to a certain degree like you kind of

46:45

don't you kind of like Always

46:47

have that residual like you're kind of like not

46:50

necessarily it's different for everyone. But like for me

46:52

personally I'm kind of trying that fine line every

46:54

day of trying not to slip into my old

46:56

habits again And I've kind of

46:58

gone on like both ends where I was like,

47:00

uh severely Not

47:02

taking care of myself over eating finding

47:05

solace in food and like stress eating

47:07

and all the things And then on

47:09

the other side completely restricting myself And

47:11

so with this medication and trying to

47:13

find a healthy lifestyle. I'm every day

47:15

trying to Untrain

47:17

my brain and find a

47:19

healthy balance between the two where I'm like,

47:21

I should be able to eat what I

47:23

want in moderation and also Um,

47:26

you know work out and take care of myself, but not have

47:28

to wear in my head I'm still like if you're healthy you

47:30

work out every day of the week and I'm like, no Even

47:33

like three times a week is totally fine 15

47:35

minute walks and count is back exactly and all

47:38

he was telling me his therapist really helped him

47:40

and this has stuck with me They were like

47:42

it's more so the habit of working out than

47:45

Uh actually doing the workout. They're like if one

47:47

day you can only do a five minute walk

47:49

You're it's getting yourself to just move and getting

47:51

in the routine of that So i've been really

47:53

trying to like find that happy medium of like,

47:55

you know Also with the job that I do

47:57

and the cooking content. It's I want

47:59

to be able to I don't know how you do it. I want

48:01

to be able to cook and do all the things and

48:03

not completely binge. Every single week you send me a photo

48:05

of what you make and I'm like, how do you

48:07

do it? I'm like, oh my, I

48:10

will come pick it up. I was like,

48:12

damn, that has to be really hard. And

48:14

also that balance of, it also

48:16

is fine if you do want to eat healthier foods.

48:20

But yeah, sorry, I kind of cut you off

48:22

there. I feel similar

48:25

to whether someone struggles

48:28

with any addiction, whether it's

48:30

alcohol or drugs or whatever,

48:32

I would say that it never, even

48:37

if you fully get over that, there's always

48:39

that temptation maybe. Or if you do, I've

48:41

also heard that you can just, you get

48:44

a new addiction. So people who used to

48:46

find food as their addiction will that

48:48

control- Like you need an outlet kind of thing.

48:50

Yeah, that outlet turns to something else. So I

48:53

think it's better to assume like, you know what?

48:55

I'm always gonna struggle with binging. That's

48:58

something with me. I just am aware portions and binging

49:00

is something I've always struggled with ever since I

49:02

was little. And that probably is never gonna go away. So how do

49:04

we adapt to it? How do we work with it? It's a part

49:06

of you. Yeah, and it's like, I don't

49:08

need to hate myself when that happens, but

49:10

just understanding, oh, I tend to

49:12

binge more when I haven't had my water or I've been

49:15

restricting myself and dinnertime comes and I'm like, oh my

49:17

God, I'm ravenous. You know what I mean? So

49:19

just finding ways to work with it and not being

49:21

hard on yourself, I think is the biggest thing because we're

49:23

all gonna fuck up. We're all gonna slip up at times.

49:26

But it doesn't mean you're back at square one and you have to like give

49:29

all your hard work up either. I

49:31

think if you a year ago heard yourself now,

49:33

you would be like fucking sobbing and mind blown.

49:36

I've just even, you were talking, I was thinking

49:38

about. Yeah, yeah, yeah, just what you said just

49:40

now, thinking about when we started this podcast and

49:42

how we were not doing well, but it's so

49:44

crazy because we didn't know. We

49:47

thought we were like so healthy and so good.

49:49

And it's weird because looking back, my biggest thing

49:51

was like, no, like I'm, I

49:54

was training to be an Olympian. When,

49:57

and expecting that all year

49:59

round. When in reality I'm not

50:01

an athlete, like I'm an athletic person but I

50:03

don't need to be training as if I am

50:05

an athlete. My nutritionist at that time even explained,

50:07

he was like, look, athletes have playoffs where yeah,

50:10

they need to be on their game and maybe

50:12

Vlogmas is your playoffs where maybe you have to prep

50:14

your food a little bit more because you don't have time to think

50:16

or whatever, etc. But there's always a break.

50:18

You're not giving, I know. I'm Vlogmas being your Olympic. Coppella is obviously

50:20

my Olympic. But they're like, if this is your, like, go season. And

50:23

then I was like, I just feel

50:25

like every season is my go season

50:27

for different reasons. He was

50:30

like, you need to have an off season. I mean,

50:32

even when we were doing the seeing

50:34

the nutritionist, it kind of dawned on me that one

50:36

day because that nutritionist, super nice guy

50:38

and definitely like I learned a lot from him

50:40

in a good way. I definitely like picked up

50:43

some bad things from that too. But

50:45

he works with like Marvel

50:47

actors to train them or get them

50:49

like ready for Marvel movies and things.

50:52

Yeah. Or like roles. And

50:54

at one point I was like, I'm just living my everyday life. I do not

50:56

need to be doing that. So where does the pizza come in? What

50:59

if I do want a pizza? Yeah, there are definitely some things

51:01

where I was like, oh, that is not sustainable for me. But

51:04

there are certain the biggest thing I took away from that was like, I was

51:06

severely under eating. Oh my God. I

51:08

didn't even know. Yes. Oh, I didn't

51:10

know. I just didn't know it was like that bad. Yeah. Like

51:13

I didn't realize how much I wasn't utilizing food to

51:15

literally be fuel. And how you need food to well,

51:17

obviously we know you need food to function, but you

51:19

also need like just because you're cutting

51:21

your food back doesn't mean you're going to lose weight. You're

51:24

actually like starving yourself. It's obviously not a good thing

51:26

to do. Yeah. I'm

51:28

that I true. I will say like mentally I learned

51:31

so many things that helped me. I think

51:34

seeing him help me heal my relationship

51:37

with food, but then the workout

51:40

part of it, I got very strict into like,

51:42

well, shit, if I don't work out damn

51:45

near every single day, then I'm taking steps

51:47

backwards instead of that balance. So I think

51:49

that was my biggest takeaway was the

51:51

workout balance was level food. It

51:54

ruined my relationship with food in

51:56

a different way than it was already ruined. But it

51:58

took me. to be

52:01

like I had to go to the other side of

52:03

not taking care of myself in like

52:05

peak quarantine or honestly like through quarantine and

52:07

like through COVID to heal that for myself.

52:09

Yeah, and I kind of had to hit

52:11

like that a really bad place. It's weird

52:13

how lots of things are just a pendulum.

52:16

It's like you have to go to one extreme to

52:18

the other and we see that even down to fashion

52:20

trends like we see it so much in

52:22

society and a lot of times

52:24

you kind of just have to let yourself go through

52:26

the you know the motion of it all to figure

52:28

out where your middle ground is. For sure. Which

52:31

like as much as I'd love to I'd love to just be like

52:33

oh I learned from this person let's be real most of us just

52:35

like you have to do it. I have to learn the hard way

52:37

and have to learn from our own experience. I've

52:39

also like come to terms with the fact that like

52:41

I am a fluctuator and I will be fluctuating for

52:43

the rest of my life. Like I have I

52:46

when I first lost weight the first

52:48

time I was like get rid of all

52:50

the clothes that don't fit me. Bye! Donated

52:52

everything and now I'm definitely a lot more

52:54

hesitant with my closet because I'm

52:56

like okay there is a very big chance I will

52:59

gain weight back. There's a chance that I still have

53:01

leggings from the first time that I

53:03

like when I was at like my my lowest weight. I

53:05

still have a couple pairs because I'm like well maybe I'll

53:07

fit into these one day. Not like in a because I

53:09

know some people do that in a bad way. I'm just

53:11

like okay maybe they're in the back

53:13

drawer. You're like that's expensive. Exactly because

53:15

I like I'm like they're expensive. There's

53:18

a pile in the back of my drawer and then I

53:20

have like essentially like a drawer to fit like if

53:23

I'm on my period or if I lose a little more

53:25

weight if I gain weight if I get pregnant I have

53:27

things that fit like I have so many like variations now

53:29

which maybe not everybody would agree with but like it works

53:31

for me. But again you

53:33

did the extreme of getting rid of everything and

53:35

now you're finding balance of I found peace and

53:37

knowing actually having the variation

53:40

helps me mentally because I'm like I

53:42

know I'm gonna fluctuate and that's okay I'm prepped

53:45

for it. Yeah versus like fighting it.

53:47

Yeah no no no no no no no no which I

53:49

think before I was like get it all gone and then

53:51

I had to go buy more things again. I'm starting 2024

53:53

off growth. I

53:57

am very proud of us. Well I feel motivated just listening

53:59

to this. I'm like, I'm gonna go

54:01

work out again tomorrow. It's also like something

54:03

we should. Also, it's like not something that

54:05

we're actively thinking about, but to sit here

54:07

and be introspective and talk it

54:09

out. I feel like we've come a very long

54:11

way. No, yeah, and again, it's like, just

54:14

listen to your body. Like, listen

54:17

to your gut. Again,

54:19

if some cosmetic person is like, you need

54:21

to listen to your gut. Think of us another

54:24

year from now. Think of us season seven, Remy and

54:26

Alicia. Season eight, season

54:29

147. We're literally

54:31

saying bingo. We're at the casino. Oh my

54:33

God, we go live at the casino. I

54:35

don't think you can go live at the

54:37

casino, can you? Maybe if it's like a

54:39

nursing home, like their casino. Oh, like bingo?

54:41

Like casino night at the nursing home. Casino

54:43

night at the nursing home. I want to

54:45

meet your grandma. Oh my God. Do

54:47

you want, we should go see you soon. I really

54:50

want to. We, I

54:52

wanted to call, I tried to call her that one time. Should I call

54:54

her right now? I always thought about how she never picked up. Let's see.

54:57

She's the one who escaped

54:59

North Korea, escapes North Korea. Call her.

55:02

She's always busy. Like I need to, I need to see her

55:04

and I need to say thank you. Cause I wouldn't know you.

55:06

Like that's insane. That's insane. Cause

55:08

I wouldn't exist. You wouldn't exist. I know

55:10

it's actually so crazy. She probably won't pick

55:13

up. She's always busy. My mom's

55:15

like, she's going to the beauty salon.

55:17

She's playing bingo, whatever she's doing. She

55:20

literally couldn't do lunch with me last week cause she

55:22

was at the salon. I love that though. My mom,

55:25

she'd literally canceled all her plans. Oh,

55:28

it's okay. It'll happen. One

55:30

day it'll happen. Wait. We

55:34

have to tell them about how I literally ruined the

55:38

vlog you put up that like, this is Alicia's fault.

55:40

Oh my, Alicia,

55:42

perfectly ruined my life, everybody. I actually

55:44

just talked about this on Joe's podcast.

55:47

And I was like, I think

55:50

she did this on purpose. Never.

55:52

I think this was exposure therapy. And

55:55

then when I showed him the video, I actually like

55:57

shrieked and like, like through your phone.

56:00

It was like it's really bad. So in case you guys

56:02

don't know I have a bird phobia I

56:04

would say it's like it's not Horrible,

56:07

but I definitely had like some degree of a bird

56:09

phobia. I'm being serious like it's pretty bad I

56:12

will say though I really feel like

56:14

I learned that how much more after the

56:16

fact like I thought it was just weird

56:19

from this scenario Yes, because before I thought

56:21

it was just like ugly looking bird. I

56:23

thought I was being dramatic about Probably

56:26

not dramatic just like the ugly one because I agree

56:28

There's some birds where you look you're like what the

56:30

fuck? Yeah crazy like a heart Like a cute little

56:33

hummingbird or something. I was like, oh like rim likes

56:35

that. So I got you this present. Yes So

56:37

Alicia ruined my holiday.

56:39

She ruined my life. I

56:42

just like can't Look

56:44

in my backyard anymore in the same way I used

56:46

to It

56:49

was the night before Thanksgiving. It was the night before

56:51

Thanksgiving and Cal

56:53

we were all in the living room kitchen area

56:55

because I had hired that crew to come fill

56:57

my vlogmas intro and they were Like we're gonna

56:59

wait until nighttime. So we're all just kind of

57:01

like hanging out in the kitchen and Waiting

57:04

they're setting up all the cameras and Cal goes outside

57:06

to the backyard to let the dogs out and I

57:09

hear him go Oh shit,

57:11

so obviously I start running

57:13

over obviously Ollie slow slowly

57:15

go he ran You in

57:17

all the world. It was a light Not

57:20

even a jog. Wait. Sorry. I just realized how much your foreheads not

57:22

moving. I know And

57:25

so as a voice actor, she don't you know And

57:30

so he goes oh shit we run outside and He's

57:33

just kind of standing like in the doorway and

57:35

I was like what happened He's like, I think I saw a hawk

57:37

in our backyard. I was like, oh my god Cool,

57:40

whatever which also the scary cuz the dogs.

57:43

Yes, and normally we go out with the dogs I just want

57:45

to like preface that 99.99% of the time we go out the

57:47

dogs and so Cal

57:50

goes outside which I do know 0.01% time

57:53

it only takes 0.01% of the time for

57:55

them to get snatched up So yes, I am aware. Thank you

57:57

so much. And so Cal is like, I think I saw a

57:59

hawk outside And so he walks outside.

58:01

I'm like, I'm sure it blew away. Walk

58:03

back inside and like you can see there's in my

58:06

backyard I have a giant oak tree and

58:08

you can see it from the kitchen And so

58:10

how walks outside and I threw the

58:12

glass and standing by the sink He's like funny running

58:15

like like flogging me down to come outside. So I

58:17

go outside and He's

58:19

like, oh my god, look up there and a hook

58:24

Had landed in my oak tree

58:27

Holding a pigeon and it's talent And

58:31

the pigeons flailing the hawk is flailing.

58:33

I'm Screaming obviously and so

58:35

I'm like taking a video because this is so

58:37

interesting and I'm zoom zoom zooming and the pigeon

58:39

is still alive It's flailing

58:42

around and obviously I scream I

58:44

run back inside and we were simply waiting for the

58:46

Sun to set this whole time to start The filming

58:48

so we have nothing but two hours to just like

58:50

watch National Geographic in the backyard.

58:52

This is your dream Yeah,

58:55

you manifested that yes, like with

58:57

any other species with any other

59:00

Animal would have like loved actually.

59:02

No, I wouldn't have loved it.

59:04

I'm like coyote scary Mountain

59:07

lion scary anything. Yes. And so

59:09

the bird literally this hawk

59:11

Cooper's hawk by the way Cooper's

59:14

hawk is Ripping this pigeon to

59:16

shred and it literally looks like it's

59:19

snowing in my backyard because the feathers

59:21

are like flying down as it's ripping

59:23

it apart No,

59:27

I'm standing there and fucking I might in

59:29

my green and white pajamas my bows in

59:31

my hair full glam and I'm like almost

59:34

throwing up It's snowing

59:37

feathers I'm freaking the

59:39

fuck out. We're making Cal go outside with pans and pots

59:41

and trying to like bang it I obviously call Alicia and

59:43

I'm face time here. It's because she wants to see the

59:45

whole thing. I'm sending her all the videos and The

59:48

hawk decides to land on the ground So

59:51

now it's on my ground where my dogs

59:53

go outside and it's ripping the pigeon limb

59:55

from limb. No limb from limb rest

59:58

in peace to the pigeon and I'm

1:00:00

obviously freaking the fuck out for

1:00:02

some reason my mom gave Cal Binoculars

1:00:04

for our engagement gift and so he

1:00:07

ran upstairs came back down with them. We're watching

1:00:09

it like it's National Geographic we're all sharing the

1:00:11

pair of binoculars

1:00:14

and it's just ribbing ribbing ribbing for hours and hours and hours

1:00:16

Cal is trying to pop like bang the pots and pans The

1:00:19

hawk flies away, but leaves the pigeon. I was like, no

1:00:21

take the fucking pigeon with you comes back It's

1:00:24

there for a long time And then I'm

1:00:26

like, okay finally after like three hours the

1:00:28

hawk is done with its meal and it

1:00:30

leaves But there's obviously a fucking pigeon carcass

1:00:32

on my grass. Oof, and I'm like,

1:00:34

what am I gonna do? So we're calling every exterminator known

1:00:36

to man. It's now like 5 p.m. Though

1:00:38

and it's the night before Thanksgiving. So everyone

1:00:40

is either not working since it's the holiday

1:00:42

or they are They

1:00:45

only do termites. They only do rodents. They only do

1:00:47

bugs No one will pick

1:00:49

up a pigeon and so finally we get a hold

1:00:51

of a man who is like, hi, okay I'll be

1:00:54

there at 8 a.m. Tomorrow because I needed to be

1:00:56

sanitized cuz I have they're gonna go outside and I

1:00:59

was like, you don't know what diseases and like yeah birds

1:01:01

are the vermin of the sky and that's why I don't

1:01:03

like them and so Cal is Like

1:01:07

oh, it's like just so you know, it's

1:01:09

Thanksgiving tomorrow and the guy goes sounds

1:01:12

like you need me I'll be there at 8 a.m 8

1:01:14

a.m. On the dot this man shows up and

1:01:17

it's I wasn't there. I couldn't look at

1:01:19

it He was trying to clean up clean up all

1:01:21

the residuals and Cal said on three

1:01:23

separate occasions This man like he thought that he'd be

1:01:25

done and he'd walk up and he'd go there's

1:01:28

so much blood And

1:01:31

they couldn't find the body Or

1:01:35

the cement turf wood feathers everywhere

1:01:37

feathers in the pool rest

1:01:39

in peace this pigeon and so The

1:01:42

man like comes up there's so much fun And

1:01:45

they couldn't find the pigeon body like there is

1:01:47

like shit everywhere But they couldn't find the body

1:01:49

turns out the the hawk carried it to the

1:01:52

other side of the backyard Left

1:01:54

the pigeon body over there. So there was a lot

1:01:56

to clean up not know that he came Obviously, I

1:01:58

paid him twice as much as the ass because

1:02:00

this savior came

1:02:02

on Thanksgiving and cleaned it for

1:02:04

me. Such a nice man. If

1:02:07

anyone's an exterminator let me know. And

1:02:10

then I was like, I

1:02:13

don't like see pigeons in my area. Like pigeons aren't

1:02:16

really like in, they don't stop by in the area.

1:02:19

Why was there a pigeon in this area? Like why was it in

1:02:21

in my backyard? So I'm

1:02:23

like googling, I'm like why would a

1:02:25

pigeon be in my backyard? Like why?

1:02:27

So random. Why? And then

1:02:29

the first thing Google says, oh

1:02:32

if you have a bird feeder, pigeons

1:02:34

will usually come to your backyard

1:02:37

and you know they'll

1:02:39

like come stake out for some food because

1:02:41

they're hungry. And this

1:02:43

sad, sad pigeon was probably

1:02:46

so ravenous, prepping to feed

1:02:48

its little babies on for Thanksgiving. Don't tell me

1:02:50

that. And he probably

1:02:52

was flying over and saw I had a

1:02:54

bird feeder in my backyard. Gifted to me by

1:02:56

none other than Alicia Marie. The Alicia Marie.

1:02:58

The Alicia Marie. A very special bird feeder that

1:03:00

has a ring camera built into it that you

1:03:03

know I left that thing, you gave it

1:03:05

to me for Christmas. I had it

1:03:07

out since Christmas. I did not get

1:03:09

a single bird on that, not a single bird

1:03:11

on that camera. I think I was like maybe

1:03:13

it's not working, maybe the Wi-Fi, no it

1:03:16

just didn't get a single bird. And the first

1:03:18

bird that stopped by is that

1:03:20

poor pigeon who got ripped

1:03:22

to shreds by the hawk

1:03:25

that was standing sitting on the

1:03:27

post. What what's hilarious, which is

1:03:29

not funny, but like I'm picturing

1:03:31

like from the bird feeder camera.

1:03:34

Oh I didn't have the heart to look. Rest

1:03:38

in peace. And then I was on FaceTime with

1:03:40

Alicia and I got so mad at Cal because

1:03:42

I told Cal to bring the bird feeder in

1:03:44

because I was like God forbid in

1:03:46

other pidgeons this is so sad. Men

1:03:49

don't think he takes the bird

1:03:51

feeder and puts it on

1:03:53

our kitchen table where we eat

1:03:56

everyone. Shoes

1:04:00

are one thing, shoes are gross. The

1:04:02

bird feeder, where

1:04:05

there probably are bugs and bacteria

1:04:07

and vermin of the

1:04:09

sky on my kitchen table. I've

1:04:11

never screamed like that in my life. Oh,

1:04:14

I do remember, I was like, she mad mad. That's when

1:04:16

you know, I feel like that's probably when you're

1:04:19

like, oh, she's scared of birds. I thought about

1:04:21

the bird being on the table. I just, you

1:04:23

know, no, no, no, you know what really, who

1:04:26

I think really ruined your Christmas? What

1:04:28

did Shane get you? A

1:04:30

stuffed pigeon. Uh-huh, that little

1:04:33

sneaky. Full circle. I

1:04:35

screamed. That moment. No one saw

1:04:38

me scream, but I screamed. I saw. No, because

1:04:40

I went to your family Christmas dinner because my,

1:04:42

yeah. So I'm just

1:04:44

sitting there smiling while everyone's opening their presents and

1:04:46

I see Remy start opening a gift that's from

1:04:49

Shane. She's just so excited. She opens it, stuffed

1:04:51

animal. Oh my God, what is it? It's a

1:04:53

literal pigeon. That truly was the

1:04:55

moment I realized how scared of birds you were,

1:04:57

because you threw it. I screamed. Like

1:04:59

my body jumped back. Do you

1:05:01

have any fears? Oh, you spiders. Spiders, it's gotten way

1:05:04

better though. You have gotten much better. It's gotten way

1:05:06

better. If you did make

1:05:08

it to the end of this episode,

1:05:10

I'm curious what your guys' fobias are.

1:05:12

Comment them in the YouTube video comment

1:05:14

section, which if you're not watching this

1:05:17

on YouTube, we do have a YouTube

1:05:19

channel where we record all of our

1:05:21

episodes. I love being back.

1:05:23

I can't wait for more Pretty Basic. I

1:05:25

feel like we still have so much food to update them on and

1:05:28

I'm really excited for the future. And oh,

1:05:30

I'll just comment one of your goals are during

1:05:32

the course. I love that. Thanks for listening guys.

1:05:34

We love you. Catch you next week. Bye.

1:05:57

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