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Chad Daybell Trial - Day 5 Testimony Part 1

Chad Daybell Trial - Day 5 Testimony Part 1

Released Wednesday, 17th April 2024
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Chad Daybell Trial - Day 5 Testimony Part 1

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Chad Daybell Trial - Day 5 Testimony Part 1

Chad Daybell Trial - Day 5 Testimony Part 1

Wednesday, 17th April 2024
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doing a midday episode. My youngest

1:48

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Music fact of the day, Jewel wrote the song

2:08

hands when she was 18 years

2:10

old and she was homeless. Today's

2:12

testimony so far has been about

2:15

financials between the main players in

2:17

the case. It's not earth shattering

2:19

stuff, but I think it just

2:21

shows how everybody was sort of

2:23

connected in every way, including financially

2:26

in relation to the whole case in

2:28

general. Tylee had a JP Morgan checking

2:30

account. Tylee would get her social security

2:33

deposits in this account from the death

2:35

of her father. The first deposit for

2:37

those benefits began June 14th of 2018

2:40

and those

2:42

payments were $1,859 a month. Lori

2:46

did have access to this account with her

2:48

own personal pin that was tied

2:50

to Lori's iCloud account. The

2:53

investigator said that Tylee was actively spending

2:55

on this account until the end of

2:57

August, 2019. She

3:00

mainly shopped in person, but there were

3:02

some online shopping purchases made. Tylee would

3:04

go to gas stations, fast food, restaurants

3:06

and shopping centers when she was using

3:09

this account. August 12th of 2019, Lori

3:13

has those social security deposits

3:15

diverted into her own personal

3:17

account. At this point, Tylee

3:20

really had no more control over this

3:22

account. Lori and Tylee also had a

3:24

joint account. You see at the beginning

3:27

of September, Tylee is heading north and

3:29

you can tell by the purchases she

3:31

made. She stopped at a

3:33

McDonald's in St. George, Utah. The investigator

3:36

points out this is the first big

3:38

city out of Arizona heading up towards

3:40

Idaho. The monies in

3:43

this account came from Lori transferring

3:45

money into the account. Also Lori

3:47

would transfer money in and sometimes

3:49

that money went right out to

3:52

Colby through Venmo. On September 20th,

3:54

there's a balance of $10 and

3:57

four cents in that account. Tylee was

3:59

getting. her social security deposits

4:01

in before Lori switched the

4:03

account. September 20th, Lori transfers

4:05

that $10.04 into

4:08

her own personal account and then

4:10

closes Tylee's bank account. For Lori's

4:12

personal account, this is the account

4:14

where those social security benefits went

4:17

into after the kids were

4:19

killed. August 28th of 2019, there

4:22

was a deposit for Tylee's social

4:24

security benefits in the amount of $1,859

4:26

and from here on, this account got both social security payments, the ones JJ

4:35

got and the ones Tylee got. September 18th

4:37

of 2019, at this point,

4:39

Tylee is dead and it's

4:41

only days before JJ would be murdered. Lori

4:44

gets two deposits, one for $3,902, the other

4:46

for $4,157. That

4:53

was back pay for social security payments

4:55

for the kids. Detective Consides

4:57

is on the stand by the way

4:59

from the Rexburg Police Department. He gets

5:02

very emotional when he's talking about these

5:04

two deposits and says the date is

5:06

significant because JJ was killed a few

5:08

days later. As far as after Tylee's

5:10

last proof of life, Lori got a

5:12

total of $7,465 deposited into her

5:18

personal account for benefits that were intended

5:20

for Tylee. As for JJ, his last

5:22

proof of life, Lori got $7,835 in

5:24

social security benefits that were meant

5:30

for JJ into her personal account. He

5:32

goes on to talk about the joint

5:34

account that Lori and Tylee had, not

5:36

the original one Tylee had that got

5:38

the social security, but this joint one

5:40

that Lori was depositing into. All of

5:42

the transactions were done online, which

5:45

was unlike Tylee because she shopped

5:47

in person with the exception of

5:49

two charges. One was

5:51

on September 17th at Costa Vida and

5:54

there was another purchase on October 7th. Both

5:57

of those dates, Tylee was already deceased. They

5:59

talk about a bar. Barclay's credit card

6:01

with Lori and Charles. There

6:03

was a payment to the Valley of the

6:05

Sun Mortuary the day after Charles was murdered,

6:07

which was July 12th. That same

6:10

card, July 20th, Lori bought

6:12

Chad a ticket on Allegiant Air.

6:15

He flew from Provo, Utah to Mesa,

6:17

Arizona. Just a reminder, Tammy

6:19

was alive at this point. Alex and Lori shared

6:21

a credit card, and on February 25th, 2019, there

6:24

was a flight booked for

6:27

Lori from Phoenix to Idaho Falls. That

6:29

is the closest airport to Chad's home.

6:31

March 13th, 2019, there was a

6:34

purchase for airfare for Tylee and a

6:36

friend of hers that went from

6:38

Phoenix to Hawaii. March

6:40

14th, 2019, Lori bought airfare for

6:42

Chad from Idaho to Phoenix. The

6:45

investigator brings in a rental agreement

6:47

for the townhomes in Rexburg. Lori

6:49

stated on that agreement, the reason

6:52

for the move was so her

6:54

daughter can attend BYUI, and the

6:56

reason she was coming is because Tylee was

6:58

16 and could not live alone. Lori lists

7:00

her income as over $5,000 from Social Security.

7:04

As far as Alex Cox's financials, he

7:07

had an everyday account at Desert Federal Credit

7:09

Union, which had a good amount of money

7:11

in there. Before they left Arizona for Idaho,

7:14

Alex was getting two to three paychecks a

7:16

month until he quit his job and then

7:18

moved to Idaho. Once

7:20

in Idaho, he opened up a Mountain

7:22

America Credit Union account. Just before quitting

7:25

his job, Alex got a loan for

7:27

$21,000 for

7:29

what he listed as medical reasons, but

7:31

there were no documents related to his

7:33

health that would indicate this loan was

7:36

for that. Also in August of 2019, Alex

7:39

began buying firearms and related

7:41

products, which he had not done

7:43

before. He made over 40 purchases

7:46

related to firearms or accessories for

7:48

firearms. They go through some of

7:50

Chad's financials. There were some joint

7:52

credit union and credit card accounts

7:54

with Tammy. They show an email

7:57

from Chad to a woman named

7:59

Julie, who... owned a property in

8:01

Hawaii from Chad. It says, we

8:03

are interested in seeing this property. Would

8:06

the owners be interested in leasing this property

8:08

to a clean couple with no pets and

8:11

no children? They move on to a

8:13

cable subscription in Rexburg for Lori. That

8:16

was opened up on September 3rd, 2019. The

8:21

reason this is significant is the

8:23

IP address associated with the count

8:25

shows that Lori was in possession of

8:28

Tiley's cell phone and also then most

8:30

were sent from this IP address. Lori

8:32

actually filled out the lease to live

8:34

in apartment 107, but actually

8:36

lived in 175 for an

8:38

Alex switch department. There were some

8:41

Venmos sent from Tiley's phone to

8:43

Colby. When researching the IP

8:45

address, it came back to a hotel

8:47

on October 10th, 2019

8:50

and that was in Kansas city, Missouri.

8:52

At this point, Tiley was

8:54

deceased and it was the day after

8:56

Tammy had been shot at. Again, Lori

8:59

was using Tiley's phone. The

9:01

room there in Missouri was rented

9:03

by Melanie. Lori was

9:05

with her during this trip. They flew

9:07

from Phoenix to Missouri on the 10th

9:09

of October. They returned to Arizona

9:12

on the 12th. They did

9:14

look at some pharmaceutical records. They

9:16

searched in Idaho, Hawaii, Arizona,

9:19

and Montana. The reason

9:21

they looked in Montana is because they

9:23

received a tip that JJ may be

9:25

on a compound there. They didn't find

9:28

any relevant medications for the timeframes they

9:30

searched for for anybody. The investigator reads

9:32

a letter Lori sent to her accountant

9:34

on September 9th, 2019. This

9:38

is the day Tiley was buried on

9:40

Chad's property. The email said Charles

9:42

died and she wanted to find out how

9:44

to get tax forms sent to

9:46

her new address. As far as

9:48

travel amongst everybody, they found that

9:50

Tiley traveled one time using the

9:52

name Tiley Valo. She was going

9:54

to Hawaii, but on her return

9:56

flight, she used Tiley Ryan as

9:59

her name. Tylee flew to Hawaii

10:01

in February and March of 2019.

10:04

Lori did several times on American as

10:06

well. There were no flight records for

10:09

JJ as far as Hawaii goes, but

10:11

they did have six flights between Phoenix,

10:13

Arizona and Houston, Texas before

10:15

that move to Idaho. He would fly

10:17

with the last name Ryan and Valo.

10:20

Chad and Lori flew to Hawaii

10:22

November 3rd on American Airlines. We know that's

10:24

when they were going to get married. There

10:26

were just multiple flights for all these main

10:28

parties in 2019 between

10:31

Lori, Chad, Alex and Melanise. Hotel

10:33

receipts from April 26th through the

10:35

29th of 2019 shows

10:38

Chad stayed in Texas because it

10:40

matched the United Airlines flight that

10:43

Chad took which was paid for

10:45

by Lori and we know that

10:47

was with Charles' money. Here is a timeline

10:49

of travel that they laid out. Lori

10:52

and Chad meet October 26th, 2018. January

10:56

of 2019, Chad flies to Arizona. In

11:00

March, Lori booked a flight from

11:02

Arizona to Idaho and that was

11:04

canceled. She flew to Hawaii

11:07

instead. They note that on July

11:09

11th was the date Charles was killed.

11:12

After that date with the exception of one

11:15

trip right after his murder, she

11:17

used the last name Lori Ryan anytime

11:19

she traveled the rest of 2019. In

11:22

mid-March, Chad goes from Idaho

11:25

to Arizona. Lori booked that

11:27

one as well. In April, Lori goes

11:29

from Arizona to Idaho. In

11:32

April 26th, Chad goes from Idaho

11:34

to Houston, Texas. That was paid

11:36

for by Lori. Chad

11:38

did do the gentleman thing and paid

11:40

for his baggage through the Spring Creek

11:42

Books account. In May, Lori goes from

11:45

Arizona to Utah. And

11:47

in August, Lori and Melanise

11:49

go from Arizona to Idaho.

11:51

October 8th through the 13th,

11:54

Lori goes from Idaho to

11:56

Arizona. And then from Arizona

11:58

goes to Missouri. on that

12:00

trip with Melanise. October 17th, two

12:03

days before Tammy's murder, Lori

12:05

flies from Las Vegas to Hawaii.

12:07

On that return flight, she flew

12:10

to Idaho and then they believe

12:12

she drove back to Arizona from

12:14

there. Early November, Chad flies from

12:16

Salt Lake City to Hawaii. By

12:19

the way, this flight was booked

12:21

five days after Tammy Daybill's funeral.

12:23

Around Thanksgiving, Chad took that trip

12:25

to California with his kids and

12:28

Lori. And then in November, Chad

12:30

and Lori fly from Los Angeles International

12:32

to Hawaii. This was the trip where

12:35

they stayed for that length of time

12:37

until Lori was arrested. So that's it.

12:39

I just wanted to get this kind

12:41

of midday update in to lessen the

12:44

load on me later tonight. But when

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update you on the afternoon's testimony. Until

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