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Music fact of the day, Jewel wrote the song
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hands when she was 18 years
2:10
old and she was homeless. Today's
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testimony so far has been about
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financials between the main players in
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the case. It's not earth shattering
2:19
stuff, but I think it just
2:21
shows how everybody was sort of
2:23
connected in every way, including financially
2:26
in relation to the whole case in
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general. Tylee had a JP Morgan checking
2:30
account. Tylee would get her social security
2:33
deposits in this account from the death
2:35
of her father. The first deposit for
2:37
those benefits began June 14th of 2018
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and those
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payments were $1,859 a month. Lori
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did have access to this account with her
2:48
own personal pin that was tied
2:50
to Lori's iCloud account. The
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investigator said that Tylee was actively spending
2:55
on this account until the end of
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August, 2019. She
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mainly shopped in person, but there were
3:02
some online shopping purchases made. Tylee would
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go to gas stations, fast food, restaurants
3:06
and shopping centers when she was using
3:09
this account. August 12th of 2019, Lori
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has those social security deposits
3:15
diverted into her own personal
3:17
account. At this point, Tylee
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really had no more control over this
3:22
account. Lori and Tylee also had a
3:24
joint account. You see at the beginning
3:27
of September, Tylee is heading north and
3:29
you can tell by the purchases she
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made. She stopped at a
3:33
McDonald's in St. George, Utah. The investigator
3:36
points out this is the first big
3:38
city out of Arizona heading up towards
3:40
Idaho. The monies in
3:43
this account came from Lori transferring
3:45
money into the account. Also Lori
3:47
would transfer money in and sometimes
3:49
that money went right out to
3:52
Colby through Venmo. On September 20th,
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there's a balance of $10 and
3:57
four cents in that account. Tylee was
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getting. her social security deposits
4:01
in before Lori switched the
4:03
account. September 20th, Lori transfers
4:05
that $10.04 into
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her own personal account and then
4:10
closes Tylee's bank account. For Lori's
4:12
personal account, this is the account
4:14
where those social security benefits went
4:17
into after the kids were
4:19
killed. August 28th of 2019, there
4:22
was a deposit for Tylee's social
4:24
security benefits in the amount of $1,859
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and from here on, this account got both social security payments, the ones JJ
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got and the ones Tylee got. September 18th
4:37
of 2019, at this point,
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Tylee is dead and it's
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only days before JJ would be murdered. Lori
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gets two deposits, one for $3,902, the other
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for $4,157. That
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was back pay for social security payments
4:55
for the kids. Detective Consides
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is on the stand by the way
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from the Rexburg Police Department. He gets
5:02
very emotional when he's talking about these
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two deposits and says the date is
5:06
significant because JJ was killed a few
5:08
days later. As far as after Tylee's
5:10
last proof of life, Lori got a
5:12
total of $7,465 deposited into her
5:18
personal account for benefits that were intended
5:20
for Tylee. As for JJ, his last
5:22
proof of life, Lori got $7,835 in
5:24
social security benefits that were meant
5:30
for JJ into her personal account. He
5:32
goes on to talk about the joint
5:34
account that Lori and Tylee had, not
5:36
the original one Tylee had that got
5:38
the social security, but this joint one
5:40
that Lori was depositing into. All of
5:42
the transactions were done online, which
5:45
was unlike Tylee because she shopped
5:47
in person with the exception of
5:49
two charges. One was
5:51
on September 17th at Costa Vida and
5:54
there was another purchase on October 7th. Both
5:57
of those dates, Tylee was already deceased. They
5:59
talk about a bar. Barclay's credit card
6:01
with Lori and Charles. There
6:03
was a payment to the Valley of the
6:05
Sun Mortuary the day after Charles was murdered,
6:07
which was July 12th. That same
6:10
card, July 20th, Lori bought
6:12
Chad a ticket on Allegiant Air.
6:15
He flew from Provo, Utah to Mesa,
6:17
Arizona. Just a reminder, Tammy
6:19
was alive at this point. Alex and Lori shared
6:21
a credit card, and on February 25th, 2019, there
6:24
was a flight booked for
6:27
Lori from Phoenix to Idaho Falls. That
6:29
is the closest airport to Chad's home.
6:31
March 13th, 2019, there was a
6:34
purchase for airfare for Tylee and a
6:36
friend of hers that went from
6:38
Phoenix to Hawaii. March
6:40
14th, 2019, Lori bought airfare for
6:42
Chad from Idaho to Phoenix. The
6:45
investigator brings in a rental agreement
6:47
for the townhomes in Rexburg. Lori
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stated on that agreement, the reason
6:52
for the move was so her
6:54
daughter can attend BYUI, and the
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reason she was coming is because Tylee was
6:58
16 and could not live alone. Lori lists
7:00
her income as over $5,000 from Social Security.
7:04
As far as Alex Cox's financials, he
7:07
had an everyday account at Desert Federal Credit
7:09
Union, which had a good amount of money
7:11
in there. Before they left Arizona for Idaho,
7:14
Alex was getting two to three paychecks a
7:16
month until he quit his job and then
7:18
moved to Idaho. Once
7:20
in Idaho, he opened up a Mountain
7:22
America Credit Union account. Just before quitting
7:25
his job, Alex got a loan for
7:27
$21,000 for
7:29
what he listed as medical reasons, but
7:31
there were no documents related to his
7:33
health that would indicate this loan was
7:36
for that. Also in August of 2019, Alex
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began buying firearms and related
7:41
products, which he had not done
7:43
before. He made over 40 purchases
7:46
related to firearms or accessories for
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firearms. They go through some of
7:50
Chad's financials. There were some joint
7:52
credit union and credit card accounts
7:54
with Tammy. They show an email
7:57
from Chad to a woman named
7:59
Julie, who... owned a property in
8:01
Hawaii from Chad. It says, we
8:03
are interested in seeing this property. Would
8:06
the owners be interested in leasing this property
8:08
to a clean couple with no pets and
8:11
no children? They move on to a
8:13
cable subscription in Rexburg for Lori. That
8:16
was opened up on September 3rd, 2019. The
8:21
reason this is significant is the
8:23
IP address associated with the count
8:25
shows that Lori was in possession of
8:28
Tiley's cell phone and also then most
8:30
were sent from this IP address. Lori
8:32
actually filled out the lease to live
8:34
in apartment 107, but actually
8:36
lived in 175 for an
8:38
Alex switch department. There were some
8:41
Venmos sent from Tiley's phone to
8:43
Colby. When researching the IP
8:45
address, it came back to a hotel
8:47
on October 10th, 2019
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and that was in Kansas city, Missouri.
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At this point, Tiley was
8:54
deceased and it was the day after
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Tammy had been shot at. Again, Lori
8:59
was using Tiley's phone. The
9:01
room there in Missouri was rented
9:03
by Melanie. Lori was
9:05
with her during this trip. They flew
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from Phoenix to Missouri on the 10th
9:09
of October. They returned to Arizona
9:12
on the 12th. They did
9:14
look at some pharmaceutical records. They
9:16
searched in Idaho, Hawaii, Arizona,
9:19
and Montana. The reason
9:21
they looked in Montana is because they
9:23
received a tip that JJ may be
9:25
on a compound there. They didn't find
9:28
any relevant medications for the timeframes they
9:30
searched for for anybody. The investigator reads
9:32
a letter Lori sent to her accountant
9:34
on September 9th, 2019. This
9:38
is the day Tiley was buried on
9:40
Chad's property. The email said Charles
9:42
died and she wanted to find out how
9:44
to get tax forms sent to
9:46
her new address. As far as
9:48
travel amongst everybody, they found that
9:50
Tiley traveled one time using the
9:52
name Tiley Valo. She was going
9:54
to Hawaii, but on her return
9:56
flight, she used Tiley Ryan as
9:59
her name. Tylee flew to Hawaii
10:01
in February and March of 2019.
10:04
Lori did several times on American as
10:06
well. There were no flight records for
10:09
JJ as far as Hawaii goes, but
10:11
they did have six flights between Phoenix,
10:13
Arizona and Houston, Texas before
10:15
that move to Idaho. He would fly
10:17
with the last name Ryan and Valo.
10:20
Chad and Lori flew to Hawaii
10:22
November 3rd on American Airlines. We know that's
10:24
when they were going to get married. There
10:26
were just multiple flights for all these main
10:28
parties in 2019 between
10:31
Lori, Chad, Alex and Melanise. Hotel
10:33
receipts from April 26th through the
10:35
29th of 2019 shows
10:38
Chad stayed in Texas because it
10:40
matched the United Airlines flight that
10:43
Chad took which was paid for
10:45
by Lori and we know that
10:47
was with Charles' money. Here is a timeline
10:49
of travel that they laid out. Lori
10:52
and Chad meet October 26th, 2018. January
10:56
of 2019, Chad flies to Arizona. In
11:00
March, Lori booked a flight from
11:02
Arizona to Idaho and that was
11:04
canceled. She flew to Hawaii
11:07
instead. They note that on July
11:09
11th was the date Charles was killed.
11:12
After that date with the exception of one
11:15
trip right after his murder, she
11:17
used the last name Lori Ryan anytime
11:19
she traveled the rest of 2019. In
11:22
mid-March, Chad goes from Idaho
11:25
to Arizona. Lori booked that
11:27
one as well. In April, Lori goes
11:29
from Arizona to Idaho. In
11:32
April 26th, Chad goes from Idaho
11:34
to Houston, Texas. That was paid
11:36
for by Lori. Chad
11:38
did do the gentleman thing and paid
11:40
for his baggage through the Spring Creek
11:42
Books account. In May, Lori goes from
11:45
Arizona to Utah. And
11:47
in August, Lori and Melanise
11:49
go from Arizona to Idaho.
11:51
October 8th through the 13th,
11:54
Lori goes from Idaho to
11:56
Arizona. And then from Arizona
11:58
goes to Missouri. on that
12:00
trip with Melanise. October 17th, two
12:03
days before Tammy's murder, Lori
12:05
flies from Las Vegas to Hawaii.
12:07
On that return flight, she flew
12:10
to Idaho and then they believe
12:12
she drove back to Arizona from
12:14
there. Early November, Chad flies from
12:16
Salt Lake City to Hawaii. By
12:19
the way, this flight was booked
12:21
five days after Tammy Daybill's funeral.
12:23
Around Thanksgiving, Chad took that trip
12:25
to California with his kids and
12:28
Lori. And then in November, Chad
12:30
and Lori fly from Los Angeles International
12:32
to Hawaii. This was the trip where
12:35
they stayed for that length of time
12:37
until Lori was arrested. So that's it.
12:39
I just wanted to get this kind
12:41
of midday update in to lessen the
12:44
load on me later tonight. But when
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I get home from track, I will
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update you on the afternoon's testimony. Until
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