HEADS UP: One of the voices on mic here, Hayder, has been accused of sexual harassment in a university position in Lahore. We’re discussing what to do with this episode, but for right now, please be aware of this and choose to listen accordingly.

Way back in November of 2018, before we got mics that sounded good, we did an installment of our Patreon-exclusive Dialectics After Dark episodes and we had a lengthy segment talking about the biography of John Brown and the raid on Harper's Ferry.

John Brown is back in the news, so we wanted to release that segment for popular consumption!

(Also, when Ethan starts talking about wool-buyers vs. wool-growers/sellers, he meant the opposite; as in, John Brown unionized people who owned sheep and sold wool. Fuck the wool-buyers)

Outro: "John Brown's Body" by Pete Seeger