In a Pro/Con first, Lewis and Nick interview director Wych "Kaos" Kaosayananda. Wych directed the film "Ballistic: Ecks vs. Sever" as covered on Pro/Con in episode 50. After having heard the review, Wych reached out to the boys, and history was made. The trio discuss the trajectory of Wych's career, its highlights and lowlights, and where things stand in a world under quarantine.

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Music-"when the struggle itself becomes identified with a series of defeats" by 红山郡 (hongshanjun.bandcamp.com/album/-)

"Labrea Tar Pit" by Glass Candy (https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Glass_Candy)