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Okay.

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Hello, and welcome to Proper

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Chat, a podcast all about our favorite

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show, Love Island. I'm

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Nicole, here with my three other hosts

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to discuss Love Island All

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Star, and we are at the end

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of our journey. We will be

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recapping the final three episodes,

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including the finale. We

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will also share our favorite moments from the season.

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We'll give you our predictions for couples

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that we think will break up in the villa

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after. So that'll be a fun little

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spicy thing to discuss at the end. But

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before we do, let's check in with the

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hosts. Hi, everyone. How was everyone's

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week?

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I'm Bronna and

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week was pretty good. We

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had a nice long weekend. Most

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of us and yeah,

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it was pretty good. We got a facial

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on Saturday or

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Sunday, I don't even know what day it is anymore. Per

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Lambda's recommendation of a

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spa, which was very nice. And

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yeah, that was great. And then we

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all Nicole, Lunga and I watched

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the finale together earlier today, which

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was an extra treat. Cause

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I'm always watching solo on my phone.

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So yeah. All good. My

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only low is that I'm sad. It's

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can't believe you watch on your phone.

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I know.

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shocked.

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I was like, that's the sad part.

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That's the low.

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Yeah. No, I'm sad that

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the season's over.

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Yeah. Oh

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won't, but yeah. And

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yeah, watching on my phone, how

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committed I am to Love Island.

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Literally.

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that's

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Hello everybody, my name is Langa,

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this is assuming Bron is done with her weekend.

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All done. Silence.

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yeah, and also I guess this also

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the last, by the time this comes out, I will have

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started work even if finally

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but yeah, freedom is

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not, is ending tomorrow too,

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but

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your last night with us. Yeah.

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my last night as a free lady.

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Hi, I'm Gabby.

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Yeah, I had a really good

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weekend. It wasn't as long as you guys.

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I had to work today. So that was a

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bummer. I texted my group

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earlier today, wishing Linga

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a happy first day of work, and

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then realized that everyone was hanging out

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and having a fun day. I'm

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glad you guys hung out though. That's cool. I

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watched, I don't know if you guys have ever seen,

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I think it's called A Killer's Paradox,

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or The Killer's Paradox.

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No,

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It's like a Korean

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series. It's a very short series.

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Okay.

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Maybe eight episodes

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on Netflix. It's really, it was

3:15

really fun. I liked it.

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I thought you were going to say eight seasons.

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No, it's very short. And I watched

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it all like in two days.

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Oh, wow.

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Oh,

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back. Yeah,

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well, thanks for the rec.

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it was fun. Yeah. I don't want

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to, I don't want to spoil it. And honestly, anything

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I say about this, it's pretty much like spoiling

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it. But yeah, if you do watch it.

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I'd be curious to hear your thoughts. It's just very

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like a little bit more on the dramatic

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side. It's about this regular

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boy that's happens to kill

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someone and then it goes like spirals

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and under like from there.

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And I think it, and actually

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like the killing happens like pretty early on.

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So it's not like I'm spoiling anything,

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Interesting.

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it was good. I loved it. What about you,

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Nicole?

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I also had a very chill

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weekend. It was rainy this weekend,

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so perfect excuse to chill

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and watch some shows. And I

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finished One Day on Netflix,

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the like mini series. I've

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that a remake?

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yeah. It's a remake of the

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movie.

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that is a

4:19

That was a novel, which I haven't,

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actually I haven't read the book, but I've

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seen the movie and I knew like the

4:26

plot points but yeah,

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a good one to binge for sure

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and I highly recommend it. It's basically

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will they, won't they for every episode

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for a really long time, but it's really

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cute and it's about building like a relationship,

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definitely get your tissue box

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out because it's a ride. Emotional

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ride. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.

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But

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much of a show crier, but I'll try it.

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I am.

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I cried. I

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Yeah. Okay, good to know.

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Alright, so we're gonna get into

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all the top moments from the last

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few episodes and finale.

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I'll go first I guess. I'll talk about

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First, we had all the old Islanders

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coming back and they

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got to vote off one couple

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and I think the second that

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the Islanders that are already

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in the villa saw them coming in, they were

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like, Oh, shit this is going to be savage. They

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already had a bad feeling that, it's going to

5:29

be tough. And they all went

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around and did their little voting

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and. It ended up being a tie

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between Georgia H and Anton

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and Arabella

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and Adam as being like the top two

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couples that were most likely going

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to get voted off and then of course Joe

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was the breaking vote and he voted off Arabella

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and Adam and

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yeah, I mean they saw it coming but

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curious what you guys thoughts were on that.

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Yeah, I thought

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thought it was, a little unfair.

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The voting

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no, the first of all, I was like, we've

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already seen it in games, all of them coming back.

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It didn't feel like the first time. We were

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like, oh yeah, they came back. And

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then the, them kind of picking Arabella

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and Adam, it just, It's

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like, why send in a bombshell in the

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last week or so? You know they're going to be

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voted off. Feel like they should have had something

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else to say outside of that.

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I almost wish they would have instead of

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voting out what we

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assume the public opinion might already

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be, it was almost like a cop out. I

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would be curious if they had voted

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out people who they think were

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actually compatible or not, a lot

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of what they were saying when they were voting

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Arabella and Adam was that they

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haven't had much time or tests, which

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honestly, like I get and I probably

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would have done the same, but I would

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have been curious if they were like, I don't think this

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couple has much chemistry, which

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is why I almost appreciate when they

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gave the perspective on the whole Georgia

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and Anton thing and we're voting

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them. Out as well. Yeah,

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and the only two rogue ones were like,

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who did Lewis pick?

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And Tom, which was like, get

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outta here.

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I did read online that they feel

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that he did that just to have like

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his five seconds, just to get attention.

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Yeah, I read that the people speculate

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that he just wanted five seconds of like extra

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attention.

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Saw that.

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Oh, and then Jake voted for

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Toby

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and Georgia, which I'm

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surprised more of them didn't actually.

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Me too.

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me too. And Anton

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left on bad terms. I feel like

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they were constantly arguing. So it made

7:36

sense that Mitch voted for Anton

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in Georgia.

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Yeah, and then so Arabella and

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Adam left the villa, which they

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had their little sit down with Maya. And I'm

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almost glad that they had their last little

7:48

moment in the hideaway together because

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we did get to see them a little bit more.

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And I think the chemistry there

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is, it's interesting. What

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do you guys think on post villa? What do you think they're

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going to like? Continue on

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and get to know each other.

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think if it were up to Arabella,

8:08

yes.

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Or we're not sure

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I agree. I

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she's, I don't know, I just feel like she's very into

8:13

him and it's very clear. I think he's into her,

8:15

but I think, but based

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on the two of them, I feel like she'd be very

8:19

inclined, but I think he might be as well.

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And we also, while we were watching, I know

8:24

it was about your husband, Nicole, mentioned

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that. He feels that maybe he

8:29

was more calm, Adam was more calm because he just

8:31

got there and maybe Arabella's

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coming off super keen because she'd tried

8:35

out like three other guys prior to that and

8:37

like finally the guy she's been waiting for had gotten

8:40

so maybe she just was more excited

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that do you understand what I mean?

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totally, yeah. She immediately latched

8:46

on to him. And he did as well, to be fair.

8:49

He coupled up with her. But he didn't have

8:51

the same energy the way

8:53

that she did.

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Yeah, but he could also just be a laid back guy.

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Yeah,

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For sure. Yeah. And she was like,

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here you are, like, she was, she had been waiting

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this whole season for someone to come in

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and to be excited about them and even

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get the same amount of energy

9:08

back that she got from him. So yeah, I

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hope they last, I thought they were, they seemed

9:13

cute and both on the same, similar wavelength.

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Thought that it was, she got

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a little too personal in every single

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game. I felt like she was

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really upset about every

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single comment against her. I can't imagine

9:26

being her friend and having a different opinion than

9:28

her personally. I just felt like

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she took things very personally.

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Totally. And she came for liberty

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when liberty was like, I just feel like they haven't

9:37

had any conflict and Arabella was like let

9:39

me just say something back. And it was

9:41

like, girl, she's being really nice and explaining

9:43

her reasoning and like I don't

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know. You're right, Gabby. She totally always has

9:47

like a thing to say back, almost like another

9:50

someone we know in the villa, a. k. a. Georgia

9:53

Steele.

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yeah, because I also think even

9:56

when she got upset at never went this

9:58

week when she told Calum about

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what happened in the videos and how like

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she was like, Oh, let's not don't start a fight,

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but it's girl, you're the you're usually

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kicking off easy up in here. But like for you

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to be like, I think Molly's reaction is

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very. Valid because I mean you're her

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best friend, but like now you've gone and announced

10:15

something that like she isn't has had

10:18

not found Necessary or

10:20

maybe just didn't want to talk about it in the moment

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You were like I just do you the favor that she didn't

10:24

ask you for

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What about Georgia and Anton's fight?

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Linga, I know you had thoughts on that.

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It was just weird like the I guess like what

10:31

they were fighting about maybe you could also just be

10:33

based on the fact that maybe they've just like It's

10:35

like when being with someone for

10:37

meaning just being in the villa for a long time. And

10:40

so I think I just thought it was just such a

10:42

weird fight to have based on who kisses like

10:44

the loudest. And maybe as again, it's

10:46

just maybe they live together and it just was like being

10:49

agitated by something and just, it just ended

10:51

up making such a small thing. But I just was like,

10:53

that's so random. And then him like

10:56

being like, I am not sleeping in

10:58

the bed, but it's just such a weird

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thing. I just found it very strange.

11:02

I agree. They had some pent up issues

11:05

happening and then all of a sudden

11:07

it like boiled up into this big thing.

11:09

I actually in hindsight, watching

11:12

that moment back, I felt like I couldn't

11:14

tell if Georgia was Like,

11:16

giving some bickering banter back,

11:18

or if she was, like, really serious. So

11:20

when she made her comment about him being judgmental,

11:23

I was I almost took that as ooh, wow, that's

11:26

harsh. And I might have reacted in the

11:28

same way that Anton

11:30

did, not that much, but

11:32

I would have been a little hurt, too, and I would have wanted

11:34

to talk it through. And she was, like, it's not

11:36

a big deal. But at the same time

11:38

I think they both had insecurities that just

11:41

hit each other at the same time, and it was,

11:43

like, way intense.

11:44

I know, and I just feel like this goes

11:47

back to Anton

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trying so hard to make this

11:51

work. It's instead of being in the moment

11:53

as a newly wet, newly,

11:55

those new feelings of dating somebody

11:58

and feeling, like, all those feelings,

12:00

you wouldn't hear the noises at

12:03

that point. And I feel like she's oh, you're being

12:05

so loud. And it's like you're Like,

12:07

just enjoy

12:08

same thing. I also was like, it's

12:10

very, I can't imagine

12:12

really being into a kiss and hearing who's loud.

12:14

We grown ass people it makes no

12:16

sense for, but again,

12:19

so I think maybe she was joking initially.

12:21

So I, maybe she was, and I think she might

12:23

have maybe was being playful, but again,

12:26

maybe because Anton is feeling

12:28

sensitive. I think as Nicole said, that

12:31

sometimes obviously when you're feeling sensitive, especially

12:34

seeing. If something's making you feel insecure, I'm sure

12:37

like a joke like that is, I'm trying

12:39

to, it's I'm sure he

12:40

get

12:41

actually is a job.

12:42

Jess brought it up to, I think

12:45

she was talking to Georgia or someone else

12:47

in the group and was like, Hey, Anton's

12:50

also just a calm, chill dude. And he's

12:52

so positive anywhere around the villa.

12:54

We rarely get to see him actually

12:57

upset or in a mood, and it's bound

12:59

to happen in your couple, and, like,

13:01

when you're spending that much time with people

13:03

it's bound to happen that something kicks

13:05

off and puts you in a bad mood, and anyway,

13:08

I thought it was, like, very insightful for her to

13:10

say that, I didn't get to see much of her, but

13:12

it was like a nice moment where Jess was like

13:14

very intuitive with what was going on in

13:16

the villa and expressed that

13:18

Oh, that's interesting. Yeah, I feel like we didn't

13:20

see much of Jess. If she would have come earlier

13:22

on, I think we'd be more, on

13:24

her. We would be more fans of

13:26

her. Because I've heard really nice things

13:28

about her personality, like I've

13:30

heard she's like very easygoing,

13:33

like she's very sweet girl, no bad

13:35

bones in her body, like those type of things, like girls

13:38

have said that about her and that's really sweet.

13:41

Like anyone that gets described like that's just

13:43

such a sweet, it sounds like a sweet person.

13:45

So I wish we would have seen a little bit more of her. What

13:47

about the finale, you guys, like the

13:50

big finale? What did you guys think?

13:52

I have so many thoughts. For

13:54

me, it was like, I was trying

13:56

to figure out like if our predictions

13:59

were right from last week. And

14:02

our first prediction was right.

14:05

It was Arabella and,

14:08

And Adam.

14:09

But then the next person that we had predicted

14:12

went to the finale. So that was

14:14

like new. We thought that only

14:16

four couples were going to go and then five couples

14:18

ended up going. But yeah, so next

14:21

was Georgia and Anton. We got that wrong.

14:23

We thought that it would be Josh and

14:25

Sophie, which actually

14:28

ended up going a little bit further. What

14:30

did you guys think about Georgia and

14:32

Anton leaving next?

14:34

I think for me it was like, made sense after

14:37

seeing the last few episodes.

14:39

Yeah, I predicted definitely the, like

14:41

until the final two, I think everyone

14:43

else, they landed in the rest of the group. I had

14:45

a feeling.

14:46

Yeah, and then, I think I

14:48

thought that Toby and Georgia would be a

14:50

little bit further because I thought that the

14:52

producers had any say on

14:55

all that, but it felt like They,

14:57

they went next because it was probably

14:59

the public had already seen, the public

15:02

wasn't on their side for most of the season, so

15:04

I'm surprised that they even made it to the finale,

15:06

honestly. After having seen,

15:08

like, how they did in all the other

15:11

areas of

15:11

I think yeah, and I think the all

15:14

of the clips from Georgia's past

15:16

have been like brought up So I think more

15:18

and more people are like, ooh, Georgia

15:20

Like I thought Toby would bring be bringing them

15:22

down but Georgia She had

15:25

some history. She had some receipts

15:27

that people pulled out

15:28

Yeah.

15:29

It was crazy!

15:31

Yeah,

15:32

We loved Georgia at the beginning. It was

15:34

like a rollercoaster with her.

15:36

Right. Yeah, we were into

15:37

what a, Yeah, she

15:39

came from being one of like a

15:41

teenager, right? Like she was really young going

15:43

into the show and then She go and

15:45

then she did a complete like 180 and

15:49

I don't know her personality, her vibe, like

15:51

she was, she came off really different in the first

15:53

episodes. And then I think

15:55

right after Tilly and Georgia, there was Josh

15:58

and Sophie, which personally,

16:00

Josh and Sophie were like one of my least

16:02

favorite couples. So what did you

16:04

guys

16:05

Yeah, totally.

16:07

Yeah.

16:08

Yeah, and I felt like in the last, like

16:10

in the, I feel like in the beginning and the middle,

16:12

I was just meh and like whatever about

16:14

them, and then I feel like towards the end

16:16

with like the Anton and

16:19

Josh and Georgia drama,

16:22

that whole thing I feel like they just

16:24

rubbed me the wrong way, because then Sophie

16:27

was like getting so irritable, About

16:29

the whole situation. I was like, okay, you

16:31

guys are just like annoying me So I wasn't

16:34

I was like third place like okay

16:36

fine, but yeah, I

16:43

Fallen in love with them, but also

16:46

like in the list I think they've

16:48

had the least amount of drama

16:50

compared to georgia and anton and toby

16:53

in georgia So I think

16:55

If we're to compare I understand why they got

16:57

third but like in terms of like chemistry

16:59

and like vibe and like interest

17:02

in them Yeah, I didn't see them going

17:04

all the way for sure Yeah

17:09

Reddit earlier that people were saying that

17:11

I guess maybe it's UK based people

17:13

or people like us with the VPN and want to watch

17:16

like day of or moment of

17:18

they were saying that they actually feel

17:20

like. Josh and Sophie

17:23

had fantastic TV chemistry. So I

17:25

was reading it, people were saying like, they were like,

17:27

they were robbed and that. And I feel

17:29

like they actually did have like proper, like real

17:32

chemistry slash and again, at least

17:34

drama laid back. And obviously again,

17:36

we didn't see a thousand that didn't get that much

17:39

camera time. If you think about it compared

17:41

to all the. Other Islanders,

17:44

which again, it's like we, you only get, you only

17:46

see who they really want to, cause we only really

17:48

saw Anton and Georgia H

17:50

when they were fighting and it's maybe

17:52

they had other downtime, but again, we'll never

17:55

know. They don't want to show it. We don't, that's not important

17:57

for them to show. Cause I feel like at some

17:59

point, like we got to see a lot of we got to see

18:01

Georgia and Toby when they were in the very

18:03

dramatic part, but once like their relationship

18:05

was had stabled out, we barely

18:07

Mom's the word.

18:08

Yeah. So I just think, but I also think, but

18:10

I, when I'm like, maybe Arabella was a strong

18:12

favorite because she, every

18:14

time she had an interest, the camera was very

18:16

interested in what she was doing. So

18:18

I feel like each guy she dated, we got a full

18:21

fledge. Cause sometimes you're just like, wow, I didn't even know

18:23

this was happening, but I feel like with her, they were like, yep,

18:25

we're following her entire storyline.

18:27

I was just thinking about how Josh

18:30

and sophie give me the same energy

18:32

as Jess and Sammy from

18:34

last season. They're

18:36

both life of the party individually.

18:38

They like to chat and be goofy

18:41

and silly. But, like, when

18:43

they come and actually talk together, it takes

18:45

them a while to express their feelings

18:47

and open up to each other. I don't, it's

18:49

hard for me to Understand

18:51

where, as a couple, they are and

18:54

how far they'll actually go.

18:55

Maya was really was saying some

18:57

really nice things about them. She was

19:00

I think she said that They

19:02

were her favorite couple. I believe

19:04

she said I don't remember exactly word

19:06

to word what

19:06

Yeah, she did say she was, she did say she

19:08

was like you

19:09

She was rooting

19:10

that. She was, yeah.

19:11

yeah, she was she really liked her

19:13

and also like she was like complimented Sophie

19:16

Like I bet there's like a connection there

19:18

with Sophie and Maya

19:20

and because her sister was like on

19:23

the show like her sister's like

19:24

Her sister's like a personality. Yeah, she is. She's like

19:27

a British and also her sister's husband is also,

19:29

they're like TV people.

19:31

So they're TV people. It seems like

19:33

maybe that's why she has a little bit of buzz

19:35

around her. And so does Arabella.

19:38

Arabella seems to be in the public eye.

19:40

She seems to be like, she dated a

19:42

lot of people that were famous. She seems

19:45

to be like, connected

19:46

like an it girl, right?

19:48

The summer with just with Leonardo DiCaprio.

19:51

yeah,

19:52

lover, but with his crew.

19:53

No, this is lover.

19:55

we

19:56

maybe that we know. Yeah,

19:57

Sorry,

19:58

blonde and young.

20:00

like it feels like they're showing them on

20:02

purpose. It's like they're people that are

20:04

known in, in, by

20:06

some people and like they're maybe they're,

20:09

I don't know, I just felt like the season like was

20:12

pretty, it was just, there isn't

20:14

that many like fun moments.

20:16

And the last final two. were

20:19

so predictable, Callum

20:22

and Jez. And then Tom and Molly,

20:24

it was like, not even that it was predictable,

20:26

because if it was predictable, but it was like, oh man,

20:28

I was, I'm like rooting for them. I was dooting for

20:30

them since the start. I would have been like, so

20:33

happy, but it was just out of all the couples,

20:35

like sure, they would have been my favorite, but

20:38

What I have been more happy is

20:40

Molly and Callum yeah,

20:43

We were like, what if it's a plot Twist.

20:45

yeah, it was, my

20:48

gosh, you guys, like, when Callum and

20:50

Jess did not win, Callum was

20:52

like, oh, deserved he was

20:54

so happy that Molly won

20:56

I guess if you win, you might have a contractual,

20:59

you might have to stay together for the other stuff

21:01

afterwards. Cause you also have to go on

21:03

podcasts and then you also maybe you have

21:05

to what do people are offering you? Like couple brand

21:08

deals. So maybe for him to be like, okay, cool.

21:10

At least like I'm slightly off the hook from

21:12

whatever comes with winning. And

21:14

maybe he was like, maybe not looking for

21:16

something that serious with Jess.

21:19

Oh,

21:19

yeah.

21:20

Could be, yeah. I'm already seeing fan

21:23

clips of Callum giving Molly

21:25

a hug after

21:26

Huh.

21:27

the winning thing, and everyone being like,

21:29

why?

21:31

I'm, oh, I know, I saw that too, where people

21:33

are like, what if they just, what if they

21:35

just take the money and go back to

21:37

the dogs? If

21:41

long term, if they do ever get back

21:43

together, then he's great, that's another

21:45

25, 000 in the bank.

21:48

Totally.

21:49

I just thought it was like, like

21:51

you could tell that Callum did not want

21:53

to win. I hate to say that, but you

21:55

could just tell that he was just I don't know. You

21:58

could just tell he was ready to get off the stage

22:00

and he felt so comfortable. Did

22:03

you guys see when Josh and Sophie were

22:05

sat down with Maya how nervous

22:07

Josh was? It was incredible.

22:10

It was, there's,

22:11

he seemed a little, like,

22:14

all over the place with his responses for a

22:16

little bit.

22:16

over the place. He didn't

22:19

even, he was like, he just kept saying

22:21

short things and then stopping and saying, Oh,

22:23

you guys know what it goes, how it goes. Or

22:26

I don't know. It was just really random and weird. But

22:28

when Callum was talking, I just felt like it was

22:30

so natural. I just felt like he was

22:32

so okay with not winning.

22:35

Like he

22:35

so composed, too. Yeah.

22:38

Yeah.

22:39

just comfortable. Like it was either gonna be him

22:41

or his ex. It's if it's him,

22:43

he has to be with this girl. I feel so

22:46

bad for Jess. I feel so bad for saying

22:48

that. But maybe they'll shock us. And

22:50

I hope they do. But at

22:53

the same time, I honestly hope that

22:55

Callum and Molly rekindle things. So

22:58

But also, it also could be like a kind of, but

23:00

I think it also could be, also maybe

23:02

like a time, not a time. And it was

23:04

like, maybe they're not like whatever right now, like

23:06

fine. They can still be friends. Like I can

23:08

believe that. And maybe like over

23:11

time, once Molly Tom

23:13

goes away somewhere and then Molly's available

23:16

and and then Callum, they can be like, Oh, actually, if

23:18

we're single at the same time, kind of

23:20

thing, like maybe they could be, what if they

23:22

intersect again, maybe not

23:24

right now, because again obviously we didn't get the

23:26

full story of the complete breakup

23:28

and it's just. Rumors. And even

23:30

for Callum to be like, people want it to be so perfect,

23:32

which I was like, actually, that's true. Cause we know nothing. And

23:35

he's people want us to just have this fairy tale

23:37

with fairy tale where we just see each other

23:40

on a show and I'll hear together for weeks and get

23:42

back together. Cause I'm pretty sure maybe there the

23:44

breakup was obviously very well thought out considering

23:46

they'd lived together, shared dogs. So

23:48

so I think for him, then I was like, actually, that's

23:50

very true.

23:51

Yeah. I think I'm in the minority

23:54

here in that I hope Tom and Molly

23:57

have their fairy tale, their version

23:59

of a fairy tale. But I

24:01

see the appeal of Callum and Molly

24:03

because they're both individually

24:06

amazing people. And I think

24:07

And it's what we know.

24:08

props to Callum, too, for just

24:10

handling the whole situation well and Molly

24:13

handling the whole situation. Graciously,

24:15

I think they did a fabulous job of

24:17

just handling all of that

24:20

ups and downs of All of that. But

24:22

yeah I think Tom, like, when he looks

24:25

at Molly you see it in his eyes

24:27

Oh my gosh, I want this girl and I want this

24:29

to work out. I don't know if

24:31

the whole situation with him being younger

24:33

and the moving in and being, like, actually

24:36

settled is gonna vibe with him,

24:38

but I'm invested in seeing it hopefully

24:40

happen.

24:41

No, I hear you.

24:41

Yeah, no, I was just gonna say

24:44

I feel so all over the place

24:46

because when you're saying

24:48

that I'm like, I totally agree.

24:50

I totally agree. Because I personally really like

24:53

Tom and I think Molly's so cute

24:55

and them together. They're so

24:57

cute together. It feels like they

24:59

should be together, but then Calum's

25:01

in the picture. So it's almost yeah, I've

25:04

said this before, but if he wasn't there, it's

25:06

I wouldn't even have known any better.

25:09

And it's just, it really is,

25:11

for me, just the background TikToks,

25:14

the whole You know,

25:16

emotional rollercoaster. Yeah,

25:18

social influence. That's all it

25:20

is for me because you're, I think

25:22

like Molly's right in saying like

25:24

how, when Louis pointed out

25:27

that he was voting for her,

25:29

like he, she was like, but we haven't even talked

25:31

and that's right. We haven't even seen moments

25:33

where they're like, super lovey

25:36

dovey, except for maybe like one

25:39

glimpse of what they could have been when they were cooking

25:41

for each other's partners. And I just think

25:43

it's all like history like

25:45

imagine if your ex and you had Instagram

25:48

photos and then that all of that is

25:50

surfaced just because you're on a show

25:52

and it's like any, anything that

25:54

they did together any like little challenge

25:56

they did together all of that is just surfaced

25:59

up.

26:00

And set to like romantic

26:02

music.

26:03

I know.

26:03

people are making like

26:05

Pulling at our

26:06

fan videos. Yeah. With

26:08

like cold play, and they're like,

26:10

That's true.

26:11

Yeah, and I wonder if we had

26:14

You know, if things had gone differently

26:16

and Callum actually did crack on

26:18

with Georgia or Jess came in earlier

26:20

and they had a more established

26:22

relationship that we actually got to see,

26:25

if we would have the same take because,

26:27

we didn't get to see them enough

26:29

to know okay, this is solid or something's

26:32

there and we can be happy for Callum and

26:34

we can be happy for Molly and separately

26:37

in their own

26:37

Because if, yeah, because it feels like

26:39

we, we are happy for Tom. Like

26:41

he came early enough

26:44

that we are happy and we're like, oh, it feels wrong

26:46

to say like Callum and Molly. It feels wrong

26:49

because I'm like but Tom has done a great

26:51

job. Like he's done, he's like showing

26:53

up for her and stuff. It's not like he hasn't.

26:55

And he, they're like such a good couple,

26:58

such a cute little couple, But I think it is

27:00

what you're saying. It's we didn't see Jess enough.

27:02

So then we're He's still lingering

27:04

Yeah. Yeah. He's still an option.

27:06

we're all secretly in love with Callum, too.

27:09

We're all obsessed with him,

27:10

you are like, yeah. Whatever he wants. Yeah. We're like

27:12

whatever he wants.

27:14

Jez, are you sure? Not me?

27:16

As the single one of the four

27:18

of us, I, if Jess, if it

27:20

doesn't work out with Jess, I will gladly

27:22

move to England,

27:23

hit us up, Callum. Slip

27:26

into the DMs, Verona is available.

27:28

I'm available.

27:33

Okay, so now we're going to talk about

27:35

the favorite moments of

27:37

the first season of What

27:41

are your top moments about the season?

27:44

Branagh, I know Casey and Georgia.

27:46

That whole

27:47

Yeah, they showed a clip of it

27:49

again in today's finale and

27:51

it just is so funny

27:54

of how Georgia H was

27:56

talking to Casey's grandfather

27:59

and in the abyss. And just how he was like,

28:01

I, yeah things are going great.

28:03

But then you said you talked to my dead grandfather

28:05

and she obviously made, gave

28:07

him the major ick and

28:10

I just think it was so funny,

28:12

That was good.

28:13

Yeah, I just would love to know her thought

28:16

process, too, behind telling him something

28:18

like that, where she was, like, yeah,

28:20

it was just, it was so funny, his reaction,

28:22

and honestly after seeing that,

28:25

it sealed the deal, and everyone was, like, yeah,

28:27

they're not they're not a thing, and

28:29

he didn't ghost her, because

28:30

Yeah, I totally

28:33

understand like how that happened. So

28:36

honestly, because I

28:38

feel like I've been part of, you go

28:41

to immersive experiences,

28:44

and then you come out and you're this is a feeling

28:46

like We've been, in college

28:48

and stuff you go through like group and group

28:50

stuff and it's that's all you care about

28:52

and then you come out and that's all you talk about

28:55

so I can imagine her being like all about

28:57

it and then coming out and then she it's

29:00

just so funny when she said and that's why they tell

29:02

you not to text people about

29:04

it or that's why they tell you not to call

29:06

people

29:07

that was really funny. But

29:09

I do think Georgia, like in those parts, she's

29:11

funny. You know what I mean? Because she's just oh yeah,

29:13

Yeah. And she took it well, right?

29:16

Yeah, she like, heard Casey out and she was

29:18

like, okay, that's fair.

29:20

that.

29:22

She cared about it though because she actually asked

29:25

the girl that came in,

29:28

the girl that called her during that

29:30

call,

29:31

Oh, her friend Yeah.

29:33

her friend. She actually, Olivia.

29:35

Yeah. She asked her, she was like, what'd you

29:37

think about the whole Casey thing?

29:40

So it's not like it wasn't top of mind. Like she

29:42

knew that it had come up. It's made her feel

29:45

maybe Oh, did I come off a little crazy? Yeah.

29:48

No, it does add character though. Oh,

29:50

totally. I think

29:52

anything that is just a little quirky

29:55

or anything that adds character to you

29:58

I believe in that people should be as

30:00

unique as possible. Just be your own

30:02

self. That's my stance

30:04

like in anything like I don't I

30:06

feel like unique people are so interesting

30:09

So the fact that she is like so unique in

30:11

that way, like it really added a different

30:13

like layer to her versus

30:16

if she wouldn't have shown that spirituality

30:18

or that peace like I feel like she would have just been

30:20

like We wouldn't have gotten much of

30:22

her. So it was like, cool to see that.

30:24

Yeah. For sure.

30:26

And Anton loves that about her.

30:27

Yeah.

30:28

And was doing the meditating with her in

30:30

the morning every day.

30:32

Okay, so my favorite parts of the season

30:34

I'll say this jokingly, but I just did

30:36

not like, none,

30:39

but it's like totally a joke because

30:41

I did really enjoy this season in

30:44

certain aspects, but at the same

30:46

time, I just feel like Take me

30:48

back to the OG. I'm done.

30:51

I watch games. Now

30:53

there's all stars. Just take me

30:55

to the original thing that I really love.

30:57

I want to go back to new, fresh

30:59

relationships. I don't want exes.

31:02

I don't want older people. I want young

31:04

people.

31:05

Want young,

31:06

you said that.

31:07

people.

31:08

I want, I don't, not even necessarily

31:10

dumb. I just want The whole vibe

31:13

that we used to have like games

31:15

was like fine for its moment

31:17

and then this was a nice little experiment

31:19

but like I think what really

31:22

got to me was the excess the amount

31:24

of excess it just kept coming in It was

31:26

just boring. Like I just hated that

31:28

like I wanted I,

31:31

another thing that I really hated about this season

31:33

is like the lack of diversity that I felt,

31:35

maybe it's just me, but I felt I just felt like

31:37

there was like nobody for Kaz,

31:40

and like for the longest time, I was just like waiting

31:43

and waiting, it's is anybody gonna come? Are

31:45

you just gonna bring exes here,

31:48

and then you're like, not gonna bring anyone

31:50

that's com Like, anyone that she

31:52

could have noted 10 people at

31:54

the beginning, they could have brought her, some,

31:56

but I don't feel like they brought her any single

31:58

person that she would have named off, so

32:01

it's, like, why have her there if you're not going to bring

32:03

someone that's, like that she would have really

32:06

enjoyed, especially with

32:08

it being all stars like they know

32:10

each other. She for sure had

32:12

a top five list. And you know that

32:14

the producers had that list. So the

32:16

fact that like they didn't bring that list

32:18

I don't know, I just like not feeling

32:21

too good about this season, to be honest

32:23

I favorite person, Callum.

32:26

Hannah was awesome. I really would

32:28

love to see a podcast between

32:30

her and Lib. I really enjoyed hearing them

32:32

just lately talking about

32:34

truthfully talking about their experiences.

32:36

I feel like they're truthful. Hannah is so truthful.

32:39

I really love her. And I

32:41

think my, just to wrap up my

32:43

least favorite part, I really

32:46

didn't like when Lib said, When

32:49

they were talking about how are your DMs doing?

32:51

And she was like, dry

32:53

as a Sahara desert. Like, why?

32:56

Why? Why are her DMs like,

32:59

I just don't get it. And also her, the

33:01

whole, her whole journey there was

33:03

just miserable. And then her after

33:05

journey was just like, bad

33:07

as well. I don't know. Something's fishy

33:10

about this All Stars, and I'm not liking it

33:12

too much. So I'm excited for summer

33:14

to come around. To get to the

33:16

good normal.

33:17

Fresh

33:18

people. Yeah,

33:19

hundred percent.

33:20

I agree. Like the casting could have

33:22

been a lot better for this

33:24

all stars. At the same

33:27

time, I think that they

33:29

were testing out a lot of things, and

33:31

their version of X Island

33:34

was what they were really testing out,

33:36

and I think, conceptually,

33:39

I understand why, because What

33:41

did we all do? We want, we were shipping

33:43

the exes to get back together, especially

33:45

Callum and Molly, but realistically,

33:49

that didn't happen none of the exes actually

33:51

ended up getting together actually there was,

33:54

like, rehashed drama that came

33:56

from it, and we didn't really see couples getting

33:58

through that process and cracking on with

34:00

new people until weeks

34:02

later yeah, I think maybe

34:04

since it's, They did this

34:06

experiment of X Island, hopefully

34:09

when they do All Stars next season,

34:11

they'll do better casting and they'll be like,

34:14

okay, we're done with the X experiment. Unless

34:16

they're like, oh, we learned that people love Molly

34:18

and Callum, let's do it again. Which

34:21

would piss us off.

34:23

Yeah. I think if they do, it's

34:25

keep it to one couple of exes. We don't

34:27

need five of them. That's just boring.

34:29

Totally. It's just traumatic watching them

34:31

like, walk through the door and then pan to the

34:33

person and they're like, oh god.

34:36

It's just like they say

34:37

They love doing that. They did a lot in the finale

34:40

all the time.

34:41

I will say my favorite moment, though,

34:43

was all of the

34:46

Toby, Georgia PDAs

34:48

moment. Not favorite, but I think it was,

34:50

like, the most dramatic. Two

34:52

points in the entire season when

34:55

Toby stood up there and recoupled

34:57

like and I remember like our reactions

34:59

after that We were like, oh my god I can't wait for you

35:01

guys to finish this episode so we can talk

35:03

about it because it was Moment and

35:06

props to them for doing a version

35:08

of movie night, whatever. It's called

35:11

PDAs or whatever

35:12

PDAs!

35:14

that always gives us enough drama

35:16

to last a couple episodes,

35:18

so

35:19

They always go Yeah, remember, it's just a game. Because

35:26

they always end up fighting. That and the heart

35:28

rate challenge. Those are like, we're like, Oh,

35:31

we're definitely fighting. As much as it's

35:33

a joke, it's a joke, it's a joke, and then it's not.

35:35

totally. I hope they learn from that and bring it

35:37

back, and I'm sure they will.

35:40

Yeah, I think they, I feel like even

35:42

though this was an experiment, that the show

35:44

did as much as they took us a while,

35:47

but they did know the things that people like the

35:49

heart rate challenge, because again, it

35:51

also brings back drama, Snog, Mary,

35:53

pie, drama. I feel like they knew

35:55

the things to be, and movie, they've been able to definitely

35:57

see the PDA Awards, but I feel like they

35:59

just were, like I know it's not a long time, but

36:01

we'll keep like certain things, but

36:04

I'm hoping that obviously that it's not X

36:06

Island. Cause they're really, there's already X on the beach.

36:09

And also I actually was reading online that

36:11

they having an X on the beach, like new season

36:13

and actually a Love Island couple,

36:16

like Finn and Finn and is

36:18

it Paige? I think her name was Paige Tooley.

36:21

They're coming back on there. So I'm like, if there's already

36:23

a show for X's I don't think Love Island, we're

36:25

not watching, we don't. There's already

36:27

a show called X on the Beach. We don't need that.

36:30

Totally.

36:30

and let's also remember that they took

36:32

out the games from this series, which

36:35

Added more time for us

36:37

to watch the dynamics in the villa, which

36:39

I appreciated that piece as

36:41

well. Yeah.

36:44

when they lay around like I don't like

36:46

I don't need we can watch the Olympics when it comes out

36:48

this summer I don't need to watch it while I'm watching.

36:50

Yes. Agreed.

36:52

My, I won both

36:54

the, I guess moments I enjoyed throughout the

36:56

season was Kaz and Liberty.

36:58

I feel like they are like the best

37:00

type woman like to each other because

37:02

I feel like they gave each other like the words, advice

37:05

like you go babe, Tell him babe. Or

37:08

pulled each other's purse and like how

37:10

like Liberty's like pulling Tyler aside

37:13

and being like, babe, I told you,

37:15

with, they were just Hype people. But even

37:17

though, as viewers, it was very clear that the

37:19

people they were pursuing were not into them, but

37:21

I love that they just had each other's back. And I was

37:23

like, honestly, good for them.

37:25

Oh my gosh. It's so true. I can't believe

37:27

they're a best piece like for this long

37:31

That's really cute. Actually to have seen

37:33

them like me in their

37:35

first season and then to see it

37:37

now That is so freaking cute.

37:40

I agree. I really love that.

37:42

they can send more besties into the all stars

37:44

we'd like that. No, no more exes,

37:46

just send the

37:47

Cause it just seems to end up being really nice

37:49

when it is besties because. Again,

37:51

unfortunately not too many besties because they can be pretty

37:54

kicky because you also don't want that

37:56

because it can be like catty but I did

37:58

think that, but I do think that there

38:00

was the time where everyone could talk things through

38:02

right like people were like easy like how

38:04

Joanna And Georgia, you

38:06

could see okay, there's something there. And maybe we're getting

38:08

a little bit more dialogue and a conversation

38:10

because like their friend is there, but

38:12

also it could also come to that, but then it could also do the

38:15

opposite with how, what happened with that

38:17

event, Casey, like that

38:19

broken telephone conversation was a disaster,

38:22

yeah, I, with the back to the

38:24

besties thing in games when

38:26

we saw Sally and Justine, it did

38:29

feel really clicky there. It felt

38:31

really clicky. It felt like no one, do you guys remember

38:33

Imani? Imani was

38:35

totally on the sideline

38:38

because, and she was from the U. S.,

38:40

and it felt like everyone was sticking

38:42

to their country and

38:45

it felt like Selly and Justine

38:47

were just too so close.

38:50

before

38:51

Yeah, not a hundred percent.

38:53

it's like a play on some bring

38:55

in some best friends but also

38:57

have a moment oh i also you

38:59

know have a moment of like group setting

39:01

like you have to be willing to talk to everybody

39:04

do you guys notice how this time around whenever

39:07

it was very strategic in the morning

39:10

who they placed to talk to like

39:12

for example if someone was talking

39:15

to someone they

39:17

would not include They were

39:19

fighting they would include like someone that they would

39:21

feel comfortable with bring out

39:23

You know the drama and stuff and then

39:25

they would also add in like a boy to bring

39:27

in that guy's perspective Notice

39:30

that versus like before they've only

39:32

done like girl groups like

39:35

maybe two girl groups and two boy groups

39:37

Maybe yeah, they had

39:39

a really strategic thought

39:41

process around the groups and the morning

39:44

chats this time around

39:45

Yeah, and I liked that.

39:47

Me too.

39:49

Cause I also do think that, I think that was

39:51

useful in a way because it gave

39:53

like when there was a mixture of

39:55

genders, I think it also

39:57

gave like the guys when they were thinking something

40:00

and somebody and or maybe it doesn't matter like

40:02

each person like sometimes Anton would be a good sounding

40:04

board on somebody else But as a guy's perspective

40:07

and then obviously arabella I know gave some

40:09

like someone advice as well Like maybe tell her now

40:11

before going to the villa because once it

40:13

leaves Yeah, so I think it definitely gave

40:16

like each a little difference

40:18

where it's instead of being just egged on by guys or

40:20

egged on by girls, you felt like they would get these

40:22

feeling, like maybe they were getting like, like

40:24

a hint Hey, I feel like it's going to end

40:26

this way. So I'd rather do this

40:28

Totally. Like the whole Anton

40:31

helping Liberty be less de lulu

40:33

about Mitch, and her, him being like, you,

40:35

she asked my opinion, if she, if the boy's

40:37

making the girl cry every day, I'm gonna give

40:39

her my opinion. Props to

40:41

Which is fake.

40:42

Love that moment, actually. That

40:44

was a good end time moment.

40:49

okay time for scoop on the streets

40:54

So we thought we could do something

40:56

actually really funny because this is

40:58

I ran into a reddit post where they spoke

41:00

about who do they think is going

41:02

to break up on the show like and I thought that

41:04

would be just Be funny, especially because it has

41:07

been like five minutes and who knows, maybe some of the couples

41:09

are only going to make it five minutes. So

41:11

we're going to talk about we personally

41:14

think, and then I might also bring up points

41:16

as to what people on the internet are saying. So

41:19

Nicole, what do you think?

41:21

Oh, this is so hard. I, okay,

41:23

I'm actually speculating

41:26

that the Anton, Georgia situation

41:29

is gonna last longer than we expect,

41:32

and the public expects, but

41:34

mostly out of stubbornness. I don't

41:36

know if they're gonna last. Because

41:39

they're actually compatible, and

41:42

I also don't know if the whole

41:44

situation is gonna work out for

41:47

the two of them, and the distance, and all of that,

41:50

but I think Georgia's

41:52

heard the public discourse, Anton's heard

41:54

the public discourse. They're invested

41:56

now, they're leaving the villa, they like, I know no

41:58

one believes in us, let's just go and double

42:00

down. So I think they're gonna last a bit longer.

42:02

I would say maybe six ish months

42:05

is my prediction. But,

42:08

okay, the only thing that would change this, and this

42:10

is another prediction, is

42:12

I'm worried that Anton's mom's not gonna

42:14

like Georgia. And

42:18

Oh, and you think

42:19

the man said it's a deal breaker!

42:21

Totally. Yes.

42:24

We'll see. That's my hot

42:25

months maximum.

42:27

interesting. I did speaking

42:29

of Anton and I'm telling

42:31

you what I read on the scoop of the streets

42:34

that during the during the, like

42:37

on the, cause I completely missed it. So I was like,

42:39

oh I didn't get how deep that was. But

42:41

apparently when they were sitting, obviously

42:43

when they were announced, like they obviously didn't win.

42:46

And I think they're basically sitting on

42:48

the couch with Maya. I think they ended up

42:50

talking to, and then Anton said something like

42:52

cause obviously we're like, oh, your story has been different

42:54

up and down. And then I think then Anton

42:56

says something like, oh, like when. Georgia

42:59

came into the villa, she was like heartbroken.

43:02

And then obviously then, but then Georgia

43:04

corrects him. Like I wasn't

43:06

She's like, why would you say that?

43:07

then obviously Maya and then Maya is Oh no,

43:09

it was cool. It was something else. And

43:11

then the internet is saying that they feel

43:13

like Anton probably said that because

43:16

Georgia's boyfriend came out

43:18

of prison. During the time

43:20

that she's been in there. So they, I guess like

43:22

they obviously just, so that's him assuming

43:25

that maybe she was like more, like very worried

43:27

about that and not being like as present.

43:29

And then Georgia being like, but

43:31

that's why people were saying I don't think most

43:34

people are just like, George is done with Anton. The moment

43:36

he said that she's bye. So I

43:38

don't know if that's true, but that's

43:40

what I read.

43:41

Interesting.

43:42

she say exactly? She turned around

43:44

and she said I wouldn't bring that up or something

43:47

like that. It was

43:47

Yeah, also, yeah, so

43:49

you're on

43:49

she didn't, yes, it's, yeah,

43:51

so

43:52

gonna have to re watch that.

43:54

I missed

43:54

Can you please? It was so short.

43:56

It was like Maybe you shouldn't bring that

43:58

up or something like that. Like

44:00

Because then Maya came in, yeah, because

44:02

then Maya came in and literally was like, yo, it

44:04

was something else, like she jumped in

44:06

to let's

44:07

Don't worry about it.

44:07

track,

44:08

Yeah.

44:09

Yeah let's bring it

44:10

it together, people.

44:12

Yeah, we're still on television.

44:15

oh

44:15

another

44:16

Linga, thank you so much

44:18

for bringing that up. That was so good.

44:20

I totally forgot I

44:22

forgot about that part. That was so

44:24

juicy. It was like, girl pull yourself

44:26

together. I think she could have said not really

44:28

heartbroken. She could have said anything, but

44:31

you're on live television. Why

44:33

be that? Why be that rough

44:36

with this man?

44:37

I think for her also, but

44:39

also maybe she could also been like triggered being like,

44:41

let's not give him like another pedestal.

44:44

Like I might, you know what I'm trying to say? Maybe

44:45

Yeah.

44:46

just being like, I don't want him to as

44:48

much because also she could be like, he could be watching right now.

44:50

She's probably I've given enough in giving enough

44:52

energy to this. And then now the fact that

44:54

we're like saying that maybe the reason when I

44:56

came on the show, I was upset. I think

44:58

maybe she could just be like

45:00

them. I could have just done without

45:03

that.

45:03

I think another couple that I

45:05

think will not be carrying on

45:07

was Chris and

45:10

Joanna when they had their little interview

45:12

with

45:12

Oh my.

45:13

And

45:14

was brutal.

45:16

That was so cringe. I was like,

45:18

wow.

45:18

flowers for Valentine's Day.

45:20

And he's just like

45:21

was like

45:22

yeah, I gave her flowers.

45:24

And she's yeah, we'll see what

45:26

happens when we get

45:27

she said, we'll, see what happens.

45:29

She was like, we'll see what happens. And he was

45:31

like, yeah

45:32

Yeah, we will, but like the,

45:34

their tone was just so different. And I think

45:36

she literally was like, get me out of South

45:38

Africa. Get me away from

45:40

this man. Cause who knows?

45:42

I dunno the vibe she was giving

45:45

felt like a little love balmy from

45:47

Chris, like that sent

45:49

her flowers and whatever. So

45:51

I don't see them continuing and

45:54

cracking on in, in good old

45:56

London.

45:57

never a good sign when they say, let's see

45:59

what happens.

46:00

Yes. Cause there was no solid even

46:02

it's not when Maya was even like, Oh, you're

46:04

going dates and things like, yeah, we'll talk when we

46:07

get there. It's okay.

46:10

we're not sitting together on the plane, goodbye.

46:12

you know who also, who also slipped

46:15

in a? Let's see what happens is

46:17

Toby with Toby in Georgia

46:20

when he was like, Oh, we're big on family.

46:22

We're going to introduce each other to our couples

46:25

or to our parents and we'll see what happens.

46:27

And it was like,

46:28

Maya's are you going to be boyfriend and girlfriend?

46:31

yeah, she was giving she was asking the questions.

46:34

cause I used to feel like Georgia still didn't really

46:37

get that. Cause remember she was like, Oh, Danny, my

46:39

friend called me and she was wondering like, what

46:41

are we? And when I told her that this is

46:43

He really would've said yes.

46:44

like, and she was like, she literally was like,

46:46

Danny asked me what an exclusive means. What am I

46:48

supposed? And she even says, what am I? And

46:50

he was not supposed to tell people

46:53

when, like when they say, okay, you're exclusive,

46:55

but what does that mean? And still he

46:57

was not willing to give it to her. And he was like,

46:59

Oh let's see when we meet each other's families,

47:01

which I think also is just like an easy thing just

47:03

for him to fall back to.

47:05

A hundred percent.

47:06

feel like that's been what everyone's been saying. So he's

47:08

okay, let me just keep saying oh

47:11

yeah. Cause I, I think, cause I feel

47:13

like it reminds me. I was telling I think

47:15

I said when we're watching, I was telling Nicole and Brianna

47:17

it's so vague and it's

47:19

it makes me feel like it's so dodgy

47:21

because like during speaking of another show,

47:24

Vanderpump rules, Tom Sandoval,

47:26

the guy who ended up like cheating on his.

47:29

Partner and Adriana and

47:31

basically when one, when the girl

47:33

Raquel or Rachel spent

47:35

the night at his house, but he didn't want to say,

47:38

cause he had told three different people totally

47:40

different stories. And when they were like, Oh, did Rachel

47:42

stay over? He's she dipped out. And

47:44

they were like, what does that mean? I don't know. She just dipped

47:46

out. So the whole time you're like, what does that

47:48

mean? So so literally that's just what Tom

47:50

is doing is what does that even mean?

47:52

But at the end of the day, you're like, we know it's sketchy.

47:55

The truth is eventually going to come out, but I feel

47:57

like Toby's exclusive is literally like

47:59

Tom Sandoval's, like she dipped out, like

48:02

dipped out in the morning, she dipped out.

48:05

I

48:05

Hard?

48:06

do you think they're going to last you guys, timeline,

48:09

Toby and Georgia, three

48:12

months max. Is what I'm giving them.

48:14

I think Georgia esque made the biggest

48:16

mistake of her life by not carrying

48:18

on with Callum because he

48:21

was so into her

48:22

And

48:23

and

48:23

was saying she wanted a husband. Agreed.

48:25

would've given her a girlfriend

48:28

label by the end of the season if they

48:30

would've carried on.

48:31

I agree with that.

48:32

100%.

48:34

you fucked that up.

48:35

You messed up.

48:36

no, he really did. He was really into

48:39

and also just very cause also he, and I

48:41

feel like he literally was like,

48:43

Molly, I want to get to know Georgia. Like

48:45

he literally was like, I'm going to just focus

48:47

on you. And that's obviously, that's how

48:49

Molly ended up crying, being like, I stepped aside

48:52

for you. And so I feel the

48:54

same about Georgia as well. And

48:56

I hope again, maybe Toby is different

48:58

and does want to be with him. Maybe it is the truth.

49:01

This is me defending Toby. But

49:03

I'm like, what if he would be telling

49:05

the truth, but also will not be surprised

49:08

when he dips out of the relationship

49:10

or the exclusivity because the show's

49:12

over and. Because also,

49:14

he also could be probably saying, I'm not sure if

49:16

I want to be exclusive, wants to go see what

49:19

he's like, talent managers saying what's my image

49:21

going to be looking like if I'm with George Steele?

49:23

Because they've done this before. So

49:25

they also can be like, what's this going

49:27

to do for me? Like PR wise,

49:30

I'll give them six months is my estimation.

49:33

Generous.

49:34

I know I'm being generous here.

49:35

no, but I do think that

49:37

it might be, I think it would be like,

49:40

for me, four to five months,

49:42

just because it's like somewhere in the

49:44

middle, just because of

49:46

the whole Georgia H

49:48

and Anton thing, like the same reason

49:51

they're trying to show. To the

49:53

public that they're actually together.

49:55

So 3 months feels a bit short

49:57

because let's just say. One month

49:59

is like meeting the family there.

50:02

The second month is them traveling to the U.

50:04

S. Like they're doing little LA

50:06

trips and stuff and then the third

50:08

month he's like off working

50:11

or whatever Like so four to five months. It's okay,

50:13

they're gonna call it quits at that point

50:15

time summer rolls around.

50:17

Yeah, and that'll be enough time where

50:19

people are like, okay, they were together for

50:21

long enough It wouldn't be like

50:23

right away I found it

50:25

really, I found it hard to think of this question,

50:28

because like part of, you guys know how I feel about

50:30

like Tom and

50:33

Molly, and I was thinking

50:35

like, I don't think they're going to

50:37

last, because I

50:40

felt like Molly wasn't as into

50:42

the relationship as Tom was

50:44

and I think what's going to happen

50:46

is she's going to leave and

50:48

emotions are going to like you guys

50:51

know in any single relationship I don't

50:53

know you guys tell me how you felt but

50:55

like looking through pictures

50:57

and like old stuff like

50:59

really gets And your emotions

51:02

going and I feel like it's so much

51:04

at this point that I think

51:06

like her emotions are gonna be like pretty high

51:09

and then she's gonna like like compare

51:11

and she's gonna see watch

51:13

this back and then notice like oh

51:16

Callum wasn't really like he was opening

51:18

the doors I mean he didn't truly close

51:20

them off completely like even when they

51:22

showed the recap He

51:24

picked her at the beginning. He wanted

51:26

to get to know her. And she,

51:29

if she would have told him okay,

51:31

I want to continue getting to know you, he,

51:34

I don't think he would have approached Georgia. I

51:36

really don't. I feel like she

51:39

kept telling him you need to go, you need to go

51:41

through the motions here. You need to go through,

51:43

you need to talk to

51:44

Yeah.

51:45

Yeah.

51:45

and then see if it works out.

51:47

Yeah, I agree with that. I think it could

51:49

either go one way that Molly

51:52

leaves the villa and cuts off social

51:54

media and the Love Island

51:57

public persona and thoughts

51:59

and does crack on with Tom introduces

52:01

him to the family they start building their

52:03

life together. Or, you're right, maybe

52:06

she

52:06

hold on.

52:07

lane and

52:08

Yeah.

52:09

I don't expect Palamon just to

52:11

last very long, and he's

52:13

single now, and we've had

52:15

this little, like,

52:16

Yes. I,

52:18

stuff surface. I

52:20

don't know I'm hopeful that the

52:23

Molly and Tom situation we'll pursue, because

52:25

I think they, they would be an interesting

52:27

couple to continue to follow and see their

52:29

future together. But, yeah,

52:32

I think it really depends on which route she

52:34

ends up going.

52:35

Yeah.

52:36

okay, I agree with that. It's either or.

52:39

You either go down the route and end it

52:41

because that's the route you went. I don't

52:43

think she's gonna be, like, five months in and

52:45

then go down the rabbit hole of emotions. It's

52:47

either right away. They end it right

52:50

away or they continue

52:52

and family is involved. And because she's

52:54

very much She's the type of girl that, like,

52:56

when she commits to someone, it's like they're

52:58

moving in they're meeting the dogs

53:00

they're, like, they're part of the situation,

53:04

yeah. I think someone that's not gonna last long

53:07

is Josh and Sophie. I don't

53:09

think they're gonna last long. I really

53:11

No.

53:12

One month.

53:13

We give him till summer max.

53:14

Yeah, I say two to three months for them.

53:17

And I think similar vibes for

53:19

Callum and Jess. But,

53:21

I'm happy to be wrong about them. They might.

53:24

Have a little bit more of to their relationship.

53:26

We just didn't get to see and understand

53:29

if it would last

53:30

Yeah. Totally. I

53:32

would be happy to be wrong too.

53:34

I don't know. I feel like Josh literally,

53:36

I actually read on Reddit like just

53:38

give Josh like the club and he's

53:40

gone all it will take was Sophie being like

53:42

enjoy a boy's night out and

53:45

basically and also then him knowing his

53:47

DMs are open and he's going out like

53:49

he's giving me he's for the streets.

53:52

Yeah,

53:52

you said this earlier, too

53:54

Yeah. Yeah.

53:55

take Casey hitting him up and being

53:57

Yes, him. Yes.

53:59

Yes.

53:59

replaces

54:00

literally like he's gonna hang out with

54:02

Casey and then it's literally gonna be

54:04

like game over because they obviously like

54:06

again, the attention and I feel like they're very

54:09

open to the attention. So I think

54:11

that's the thing. The difference is find someone

54:13

else will get their attention, but I feel like

54:15

for me it's Tom I feel like can be like a homebody

54:18

ish, like down to earth, not too much

54:20

on the streets, so that I can believe with the Molly

54:23

thing, but I do think Josh is

54:25

just too much of the streets, like I mean you couldn't even

54:27

button his shirt close to the

54:29

Oh my God. I

54:31

know.

54:32

in any of the challenges.

54:34

Enough.

54:36

Whenever they were looking nice, it

54:38

was, his shirt was wide

54:40

Literally.

54:41

Yeah.

54:42

Any of the challenges, any of the challenges,

54:44

any of the nice red carpet moments

54:47

where they, like, all the girls were, like, glammed up.

54:49

The guy was, like, half naked. Yeah, it

54:50

yeah, it's nobody asked for this. Literally

54:53

nobody asked for this.

54:54

Okay. So in summary, we're thinking

54:57

Josh and Sophie maybe

54:59

first and Jess

55:01

and Callum maybe for maybe around

55:04

the same

55:04

Them both.

55:05

Yeah.

55:07

and then Anton and Georgia and

55:09

Toby and Georgia. But

55:12

to six months, somewhere in between there.

55:14

And then the only couple that might go all the way is

55:17

Molly and Tom. But, only time will tell.

55:19

Or they might

55:20

Yeah. Another thing I read

55:22

was that the one person commented

55:24

on the thread on Reddit is their opinion

55:26

was press events and podcasts

55:29

will be, like, the glue that holds them together. The

55:31

more they're high in demand basically,

55:33

maybe the more they're, like, willing to stay together.

55:36

But so I think that could be also just very

55:38

interesting. Cause again, we can never tell

55:40

you just because you win love Island doesn't mean

55:43

they're going to be interested in the winner. Look at Sinead,

55:45

what's the name of the the quiet couple

55:47

that won the teachers,

55:50

Yeah.

55:51

Kai and Sanam.

55:52

And Sinead, like they won, but

55:54

I feel like they wouldn't like, you

55:57

know what I mean? It's not yeah, they weren't coveted versus

55:59

Ty, Ty and Ella are

56:01

like very like

56:02

Everywhere.

56:03

everywhere and they're just those kind of personalities

56:06

and they didn't win. So I guess it also just depends

56:08

on who gets like the

56:10

best talent person to keep

56:13

them relevant and hopefully and

56:15

then maybe they'll stay and maybe they'll stay

56:17

and then be like, actually, maybe I do like you. mean, who

56:19

knows?

56:20

the more you tell your story, the more you're

56:22

invested in it, and I get that.

56:24

Yeah.

56:25

I think that's what happened to Ella in

56:27

Thai. Think that's what happened to them. They

56:29

stopped, he stopped going to the clubs

56:32

because he had so

56:34

many shows to film

56:37

about, to talk about their relationship.

56:40

And then more and more they talked about it. This is exactly

56:42

what happened to him. He stopped going out.

56:45

He stopped started talking more about stuff.

56:47

Started going to events with her because

56:50

they paid him more. He

56:52

just talked about this, Tyre he just talked

56:54

about how much they get paid per

56:57

week in Love Island.

57:00

He said 3 75.

57:03

Ooh,

57:03

So

57:03

is 75 pounds?

57:05

minimum

57:06

So let's say like $400 US dollars

57:08

But I guess maybe for them, it's like about

57:10

what happens when you get out.

57:12

Yeah.

57:12

definitely is.

57:13

Cause that's wild.

57:15

I would say. I think 1500 to $2,000

57:19

is

57:19

people who live in California, like in this

57:22

economy.

57:22

Woo!

57:23

Yeah, so it's like

57:26

they're going for it's that's nothing

57:28

you know it's more like they just go in for

57:30

free because the show could pay them more

57:33

Yeah, a hundred percent. Yeah,

57:34

opportunity. Yeah.

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but I definitely think it's the after

57:39

it's probably the after whatever

57:40

they're smart. If they if people

57:43

have done it they would get a whole team

57:45

together during right

57:47

before you're going on, and that team

57:49

is gonna get you there, gonna get you, like,

57:52

all the calls and stuff,

57:54

like, all the things set up for,

57:55

I do think,

57:56

Tyreek and Ella did.

57:58

but I also do think that because of them,

58:00

this is not the first time I think

58:02

it's safe. I wouldn't think that

58:04

maybe some of them have that sort of thing

58:07

set up as well, because I feel like even

58:09

though cause again, remember like before this, some

58:11

of them were like full on influences.

58:13

So I'm sure they'll ask their teams like, Hey,

58:15

would this be a good or bad thing

58:17

for me to do? And what, like what.

58:20

What would, if I won, what would the be the best

58:22

outcome? So I'm assuming they, like whoever

58:24

does have a talent person did have this conversation.

58:27

'cause again, it's like as assume Toby's

58:29

job is basically influencing and podcasting.

58:32

But 'cause it's like how, like what job

58:34

is okay, bye guys. I'm going on another dating

58:36

show this year. Like you, what are you gonna say?

58:38

Dear IRSs, this

58:40

is what I did. When doing taxes, it's literally

58:43

took a break for this show. Yes,

58:45

wouldn't be surprised if we saw them on a longer

58:48

press tour. We're already seeing Liberty

58:50

and Hannah on a bunch of different stuff

58:52

already, so these all

58:54

stars are a lot more savvy than

58:56

they were the first time around, so we're gonna see

58:59

them for a while.

59:00

Yeah.

59:01

And also just seeing how much you can do it for

59:03

as long as you can,

59:09

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