0:00

Part of the interruption, but I'm Mike Wilbon.

0:02

It's our last show of twenty twenty

0:04

two, Tony. How are you gonna remember this

0:06

year?

0:07

Sony Cornheiser started in the attic,

0:10

finished in the basement just like Northwestern

0:12

football. That's a fucking lie. Yeah.

0:14

That phone line. You know, I'm always

0:16

able to ask you. I'm always able

0:19

to ask you once you throw stones. Binghamton,

0:22

what? What? They did what? We've

0:25

been undefeated since nineteen forty

0:27

six when the school was founded, undefeated

0:30

because we have no team. Yeah. We're

0:32

no team. No squad. That's good. We were close

0:34

to have a no squad this year either. Welcome

0:38

to PTI, boys and girls. And today's

0:40

episode Steve Cohn, upset assist

0:43

them. The Olympics threaten to dunk boxing and

0:45

Steve Young joins us. The five business,

0:47

but we begin today with what feels

0:49

like the cratering of the Golden State Warriors.

0:51

The defending NBA champions are now three

0:53

in sixteen on the road, and that is the worst

0:55

road record in the NBA. Last night,

0:58

again, playing without the injured Steph Curry

1:00

The Warriors gave up ninety one points in

1:02

the first half to the Nets, lost

1:04

by thirty. The game before the Warriors

1:07

lost the Knicks by thirty eight. They're

1:09

not competitive at the moment. Willbond,

1:11

do you really believe the warriors are gonna turn this

1:13

around? Tony, I'm starting to not believe it. And

1:15

I believed it as recently as a week ago,

1:17

but part of that was, okay, okay. They're gonna go on

1:19

the road to some places where they're gonna wanna

1:21

play. Where guys gonna be challenged

1:24

and their championship athletic

1:26

eagles are going to be challenged. They don't wanna

1:28

do this. And then they

1:30

lose these games by those

1:32

margins. Yeah. And I'm going, oh

1:34

my god. Tony, The Warriors have

1:37

had the number one in

1:39

terms of plusminus starting unit

1:41

for much of the season. The bench was bad.

1:43

The bench is still bad. It's worse The

1:45

starters aren't out there for the largest part

1:47

and they play no defense. That's recipe

1:50

for a long, cold, difficult

1:52

winter. Yeah.

1:54

So I love the warriors. I love to watch him,

1:56

and I love Steve Kerr. And

1:58

I don't think they're gonna turn it around in the

2:00

same way that I love to watch Lebron James, and

2:02

I don't think he's going to turn it around.

2:04

Something happens, Mike? Something happens

2:07

over a long period of time where you begin

2:09

losing for the first time in a long time and

2:11

you lack the will to

2:13

turn it around and you slowly begin to sink.

2:15

I'm gonna go back to baseball in the

2:17

sixties with the New York Yankees. From

2:19

nineteen fifty five through nineteen sixty

2:21

four, the Yankee's went to nine out of ten

2:23

world series, and they won four of them. They

2:25

were the greatest team ever in baseball.

2:27

And they still had great players. They had mantle.

2:30

And they had four. They had Elston Howard,

2:32

Bobby Richardson, Tony Kobach, Ralph

2:34

Terry. They had players. And

2:36

they sunk. They all got old

2:39

at the same time, Mike. They went from ninety

2:41

nine wins to seventy seven to seventy.

2:43

Under five hundred. I fear

2:46

this is what's happened. You think they

2:48

got it. I fear all of a sudden, you think

2:50

they have? You think what's happening before our eyes

2:52

now? If I think they get old

2:54

before he was. Mike, I think last year's

2:56

championship was the cherry on top. Yeah.

2:58

And I don't think they have this will

3:01

And Mike, I also think that that punch

3:03

in the preseason revealed some

3:05

altered It revealed the chemistry.

3:07

Not just of those guys, but

3:10

the whole team maybe. And we're waiting to

3:12

see that Tony and Jimont Green said to No.

3:14

On Cameron last week, did he he he's

3:16

not leading in the same way with

3:18

the same sort of gusto and bravado

3:20

than he normally would. He goes to.

3:23

Right? He So I I mean, I just think the Golden

3:26

State Warriors as we've known them. Yeah.

3:28

I think they may be done. Man, that would

3:30

be sad. Seriously, it would

3:32

be. Yeah. Yeah. I'm I'm like you. I like to watch

3:34

it. I like to cover. I like to be their court side to

3:36

watch the brilliance, the wizardry of

3:39

all of it, the camaraderie, the chemistry,

3:41

the competitive ego of all those guys,

3:43

and we're not It went

3:45

down ninety one to

3:47

forty something at the half last night,

3:49

unbelievable. Let's

3:52

move to Metz owner Steve Cohen, rattling

3:54

other franchises with his spending spree.

3:57

After landing Carlos Correia Cohen

3:59

has committed to a payroll next season,

4:02

of upwards of three hundred and eighty million

4:04

dollars before luxury

4:06

taxes. An official for

4:08

another major league team told the athletic,

4:10

quote, There's no collusion, but

4:13

there was a reason nobody for years

4:15

went past three hundred million. You

4:17

still have partners and there's a system

4:20

these small markets are going to be really

4:22

pissed at him, close quote. Tony,

4:24

do you think the other owners will actually

4:27

try to get back at Steve Cohen?

4:30

Let's look at what's happened so far.

4:32

Buster only reports that

4:34

Steve Cohn's luxury tax

4:36

payment, the luxury tax payment,

4:38

not the payroll. Could be larger

4:40

than ten or twelve payrolls

4:42

in a limb by other teams. The

4:45

luxury tax payment. It's called the Steve

4:47

Colton tax, and you blew right to it. And

4:49

obviously, Rob Manfred has noticed that.

4:51

Do I think from unnamed club

4:53

officials that they're gonna do anything? No, I

4:55

don't. I'm a tell you why. Because

4:57

all sports want owners who are gonna spend

4:59

money to be competitive. And all

5:01

players want owners who are gonna spend money

5:03

to be competitive. I

5:05

mean, you know what? Stop them or slow them

5:07

down, losing repeatedly, and that hasn't

5:09

happened to them yet. So

5:11

my sense of this is that

5:14

this is a good thing. Look, for

5:16

years, Mike, people looked at the matson,

5:18

they lamented the fact that they weren't

5:20

spending any money. You're gonna punish a

5:22

guy who comes in and spends money, Tony. I

5:24

don't get that. It's not about punishing the

5:26

other guys don't have as much money. Not

5:28

everybody in the NBA, for example,

5:31

has much money as Steve Palmer. They just don't really

5:33

have it. So they can't pay that

5:35

in the text. They can't go into the text.

5:37

That's gonna happen with Cohen and Tony, those

5:39

owners who were then either

5:41

forced to think about selling or

5:43

just being doormats, being homecoming

5:45

opponents, they're the ones that are

5:47

angry. Can they do anything to get back

5:49

in them? I don't think they can,

5:52

but they would want to, their

5:54

partners with them and they are going

5:56

to loathe him in the moment because

5:58

they don't have that Tony. You and I have no

6:00

owners. I'm not gonna name any names. You and

6:02

I have no owners who

6:04

have pride too. Their competitive

6:07

they don't have the money to spend

6:09

at the level of coin. There's

6:12

no cap in baseball.

6:14

Right? So you can do this. If

6:16

you don't want him in the league, you shouldn't let him in the

6:18

league. If you if you're spending no money at all

6:20

and you're not competitive, get out of the league, you may

6:22

have to get out. Alright. What he's what Steve Kerr

6:24

is doing in a major market like New York

6:26

is exactly what baseball wants.

6:28

Exactly. There's a story in the Washington

6:31

Post saying that boxing may be dropped

6:33

from a two thousand twenty four Paris Olympics.

6:36

Reportedly, there's bad blood between the

6:38

IOC and the International Boxing Association

6:40

which runs global boxing and its president,

6:42

Omar Khremlev of Russia. Well,

6:44

my news has been boxing in the Olympics since

6:47

nineteen o four. Would the Olympics

6:49

be diminished without boxing? Would

6:51

the Olympics be diminished without Muhammad

6:54

Ali, Joe Fraser, George

6:57

Forman, sugar rain Leonard.

6:59

We can keep we we can demand a holy

7:01

feel. Yeah. Are you are you people

7:03

serious? You people are morons.

7:06

No. Sorry producers. Not your

7:08

behaviors morons. You

7:10

are morons if you remove

7:12

boxing. Okay? So for me, Tony, and

7:14

I've covered in person seven

7:17

Summer Olympics. And the

7:19

only thing I like as much

7:21

as boxing his track and feel. No, not

7:23

swimming, which has become the darling

7:25

of the Olympics over the last, I don't know,

7:27

twenty years or so, boxing.

7:30

Boxing has provided some of the great

7:32

moments in the history of

7:34

sports in America. With

7:36

the flag waving at the end, if

7:38

people wanna stand with medals

7:40

being put around there next, you wanna

7:42

get rid of something with the history of them once

7:44

again. Mohammad Ali, Joe Fraser

7:46

George's former, no, you need to leave.

7:49

Not boxing. Get out.

7:51

So, you know, my position on

7:53

boxing is defensible. I love

7:55

it. Yes. I know it's brutal. I

7:57

know we should outlaw and I

7:59

love it. I like you of going to

8:01

boxing matches just to watch him in

8:03

the Olympics. The boxers are the greatest

8:06

stories. The boxers are the greatest talkers,

8:08

and you've enumerated so many great champions

8:10

that have come out of it. When

8:12

you go to a boxing match in the Olympics,

8:14

the referee may speak

8:16

another language. He will only know this

8:18

one word in English, you know, be like this. He will

8:20

put the gloves together at the beginning of

8:22

the match, then separate the

8:24

boxes and go muffs. And

8:26

that's what's happening. It

8:28

is. It's always seemed to me. I know it's rough,

8:31

but they got dead deer. Yeah. You know what? It's

8:33

only three rounds. It always seemed to be the

8:35

most inclusive of all the

8:37

sports. And my favorite things in the Olympics

8:39

are the boxing and a hundred meter

8:41

dash, because it's democratic.

8:43

Yes. First wanted to take Well, that's

8:45

that's figure it

8:47

out. Let's say that's right. You

8:49

know, very upset. Yes. I don't want to

8:51

see that MMA cake box in

8:53

there. I want that to see that. Coming

8:55

up unless Steve Young, how careful

8:57

Jaylen Hertz needs to be with a throwing

8:59

shoulder. We'll also ask him whether he has

9:01

any tackling tips for

9:03

quarterbacks. The boxing, you and I

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have sat shoulder to shoulder on

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multiple continents watching.

9:09

That's right. So it's a great -- That's right. --

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PTI that week sixteen of the

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NFL season kicks off tonight

10:29

which makes it a perfect time to welcome back

10:31

our great friend, a man who was still

10:33

upset that the Giants lost Carlos

10:35

Carreia, mister Steve Young in

10:37

a lovely holiday sweater that

10:39

Court Wilban's eye immediately. Let's

10:41

start with this. The Eagles say it

10:43

looks like Gardner Min Shoe is

10:45

going to start instead of the

10:47

injured Jalen Hertz. If you

10:49

had an injured shoulder like Jalen

10:51

Hertz, Steve, how cautious would

10:53

you

10:53

be? I would be

10:56

the highest level Defcon five

10:58

cautious. Is that the highest? I think it is

11:00

Defcon six. Whatever it is, the highest

11:02

because this the the shoulder socket is the

11:04

shallowest socket. Right? It is the one that's exposed

11:06

and has all the stuff that holds it

11:08

together. And it is your moneymaker. It's the thing

11:10

that drove Every

11:12

quarterback had to leave early out of injury is

11:14

usually the shoulder. And so

11:16

you don't want something that is, oh, it's

11:18

fine for this week and we'll fix it in the off

11:20

season. And then you No.

11:22

Hundred percent. You're a young

11:24

all pro superstar quarterback.

11:27

Hundred percent, then you come back with

11:29

a shoulder. Make sure that you take care of the

11:31

moneymaker. Alright. Somebody

11:33

who we think is healthy, the moneymaker looks

11:35

fine as Trevor Lawrence, of course,

11:37

who goes against the Jess and I, has a passive

11:39

rating of a hundred or more in five of

11:41

his last six games and people are raving

11:43

because he's navigating the pocket real

11:45

well. Steve, as a young

11:47

guy, as a young quarterback, what

11:49

has to happen

11:52

to navigate the pocket as

11:54

well as he is lately? Yeah.

11:56

Yeah. This is a this is another this is not five

11:58

minutes. This is fifty minutes. But in the

12:00

end, you need help play

12:02

quarterback. You can't of all positions in

12:04

the sports that's The most important yet

12:06

needs the most help is quarterback. And

12:08

the most help you need is from an offensive

12:10

coordinator coach, play caller who has a

12:12

system in place that you'd now

12:14

study and and I always

12:16

said, I went to law school and I had to

12:18

memorize more for my job as the

12:20

NFL quarterback than I did law school.

12:22

Because it is at the end of the day a

12:25

PhD in data, and you have to

12:27

own it. And if as long as the data

12:29

is good, great office, a corner, innovative

12:31

stuff, and now you memorize it and know everything,

12:33

every nuance, every play,

12:35

every every formation, every motion,

12:37

and it becomes reflexively regurgitated

12:40

from your mind, that's where you

12:42

get the peace that allows your

12:44

body now to navigate

12:46

the pocket. Because you're at peace with the

12:48

data. And I don't know why I tell young

12:50

players and tell you're at peace with the

12:52

data. You can't You're gonna

12:54

be problematic. You're gonna be lost. You're gonna wonder what

12:56

the coach is gonna you go to the sidelines and

12:58

they say, what happened? The truth if you were on a

13:00

light detector test, you'd have to say, I have

13:02

no idea. I

13:04

don't know I I don't know what I saw because that's

13:06

the truth. When you're navigating the

13:08

pocket and you're settled, you're peaceful in it.

13:10

It's because you own the data. Well,

13:13

we can only own the data today with quarterbacks.

13:15

I'm sure Corniser just commandeered

13:18

the question sheet and it's

13:20

only about a quarter back. So we go to Zach

13:22

Wilson who gets to

13:24

start for the jets against

13:26

the jags He said earlier this

13:28

week, he reached out to you, not

13:30

just you, but Drew Breeze, Kurt

13:32

Warner, and former BYU quarterback, you

13:34

know, John Beck. After he

13:36

was benched, what were you able to

13:38

tell him? Did you feel good about that conversation?

13:41

Yeah. III because what

13:43

happens is especially

13:45

NFL. College is one thing. The NFL

13:47

is, here's college on this kind of typical on

13:49

the quarterback. Handling things as a quarterback.

13:51

Colleges here high schools here

13:53

and the pros is like I can't go that

13:55

high. That's how big of a change it is

13:57

in all of these aspects. And what happens

14:00

when you're younger, as you say, hey, that's

14:02

not fair. That's I'm that that

14:04

you what what what happened

14:06

here? What I you're not doing? And you What

14:08

happens, you get into a whole of victimization? Authentically,

14:11

it's like rationalized because the truth is you're

14:13

not getting the help where you want. You didn't get Yeah.

14:15

In the end, The only thing that you

14:17

ask yourself is what did I

14:20

do? And how do I do it better? And

14:22

own every inch of it? And never

14:25

speak a word of victimization. Never

14:28

mitigate anything that's around

14:30

you because there are ten thousand mitigating

14:32

factors. I talk about how much help quarterbacks

14:34

need Trust me. You can point out a thousand

14:36

mitigating factors that are not being taken

14:38

care of and it affects your play. I

14:40

agree. No problem. But

14:42

the fact is is that you have a job to do

14:44

and you are accountable for. He is

14:46

accountable. I'm not worried about that. What I'm

14:48

worried about is that not let the victimization,

14:51

the mitigation and like seep in and it

14:53

starts to be able to be voiced out in your mind and

14:55

your and your words. And I I

14:57

would say that to every quarterback. In fact,

14:59

I said for years that the end of a game, watch

15:01

the losing quarterback, ask the question every meeting.

15:03

You've asked Michael, how many times? What

15:05

happened? Put a line down the middle of a piece of

15:07

paper, mitigation and accountability on each

15:09

side and just listen your ear for what

15:11

they're saying. Mitigation mitigation mitigation.

15:14

You're not going to win next week. Accountability, accountability,

15:17

PTI have a chance.

15:19

And this is why we talk to

15:22

Steve Young about quarterbacks, Wilbon,

15:24

and not about the Chicago Bulls.

15:26

This is why. He can't do that.

15:28

He can't do that. He can't do that. He can't do that. He can't

15:30

do it. He's about the he does. I know

15:32

he does. Don't he. Okay. We'll get you

15:34

out of here on this with another quarterback

15:36

question. Matt Jones,

15:38

Wilbahn's boy -- Yes. -- is getting

15:40

for his ridiculous attempt to

15:43

tackle Chandler Jones' which is office from

15:45

your experience now. What

15:47

advice? I'm sure you were a great tackler

15:49

What advice would you give quarterbacks now

15:51

on the art of tackling?

15:53

Well, the

15:54

the problem is now I

15:57

think they replaced Jim Marshall as the most

15:59

boneheaded thing that ever happened on a football

16:01

field. So now you're the epitome of

16:03

that moment when Taylor

16:05

Jones gets the ball. Look, when you

16:07

have to a quarterback has to go tackle somebody,

16:09

they're probably gonna be much bigger than

16:11

you. What what part of the

16:13

anatomy is more likely the

16:15

same size? The ankle. The ankle

16:17

is the place where it's kind of the same

16:19

size. So make sure you get after the

16:21

ankle. And I would have told Matt Jones the

16:23

same thing. Get a hold of Chandler Jones'

16:25

ankle and then never let go. And

16:27

some the reinforcements are

16:29

coming. You're never alone in tackling.

16:31

Just get a hold of the ankle and

16:33

hold on. Let him drag you for

16:35

five or ten. It's fine.

16:37

But you could see the MAC was as

16:39

shocked. If anybody

16:41

in the whole stadium, he's like, why is the

16:43

ball flying back at me right

16:45

now? And I don't think he was able to pass

16:47

as it fast enough because the way he got run

16:49

over is not Mac Jones. He is a

16:51

tenacious guy. I think his mind just

16:53

couldn't process. What was

16:55

happening as the ball flew back to challenge,

16:57

like, what and by the time that happened

16:59

even by the time you got a process, Chandler Jones

17:01

was at the ten. That's

17:03

great. To make Wilban happy, we can analogize

17:06

this to Jeff Fannon. Jeff Fannon gonna grab the

17:08

ankles. He did. I was gonna say that

17:10

same thing. There we go. Yeah.

17:12

Just hold on. PTI

17:14

Great. Really all works for you. Thank you.

17:16

Happy holidays.

17:17

Alright. Very Christmas. Happy holidays. Happy

17:20

Hanukkah kwanza, everyone.

17:21

Great. You can get more Steve Young on Monday

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night countdown this week featuring

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the chargers in the colds. Let's

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take one last break, still

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why are the Celtics, you know,

17:39

a little wobbly? Lately, you think Steve

17:41

can't solve what's wrong with the goal to

17:43

stay

17:43

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17:46

away. I know he has answers or

17:48

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State

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Farm. Happy

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time, people. Happy fifty nine

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birthday tomorrow, Jim Harbaugh. For the second straight year,

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Harbaugh finds himself in the playoffs courtesy of

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a big victory overall, I O'Shake.

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Nobody in Ann Arbor is trying to fire hardball

19:04

now. Last year, Michigan got bounced

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out quickly by eventual champ, Georgia thirty

19:09

four to eleven. This year,

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the Wolverine's come in thirteen and o.

19:13

They're an early seven and a half point

19:15

favorite over TCU, which could have been

19:17

on beaten as well. Had they not lost their

19:19

their last game in overtime, to

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Kansas state. Harbaugh is the son of a

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football coach and the brother of football

19:25

coach, and he has won everywhere he

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has been. Twenty nine and six

19:29

at San Diego, twenty nine and

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twenty one at Stanford, forty

19:33

four nineteen and one with the forty

19:35

niners, including a Super Bowl appearance,

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and he's seventy four and twenty four in Michigan.

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Tony, you know, I always thought that Jim

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Harbaugh would be and I wanted him to

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be the head coach at some point of the

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Chicago Who drafted? I mean, that's

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where he started and played most of his in the film

19:50

career. That doesn't look like it's

19:52

gonna happen. You know? But I I was able to

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see hardball play in person in

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college. Against Maryland in the big house. Way back. Way back must

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have been the late eighties. Happy

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anniversary in Dominic and On

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this day, thirteen years ago, the Nebraska

20:06

defensive tackle became the first

20:08

defensive player voted AP College

20:10

Football Player of the Year. Soon may be the last

20:12

great Nebraska player. We have to

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number two overall by the lions, a

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five time pro bowler, a

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Three time first team all pro. He's played for the lions,

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the dolphins, the Rams, where he played

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in the Super Bowl, Tampa Bay wearing

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one Super Bowl and now the Eagles.

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Until going to the Eagles, Seward started all one hundred

20:29

ninety one games of his career, and

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he has never missed a game due to injury.

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Tony, the greatest defense of Limeon College, I think I

20:36

ever saw. Reggie White, Chris

20:38

Long, Endama can sue, and

20:41

Warren Stack. We just turned

20:43

fifty earlier this week, so happy

20:45

related to Warren SAP. But those guys

20:47

to me, like, sort of set themselves apart in

20:49

the time, I was covering college

20:51

football. Going back to Reggie White. Having

20:54

trails the last night's games for Iowa

20:56

and Arizona state, Eastern Illinois was

20:58

a thirty one and a half point hundred dog

21:00

Iowa last night. A spread so large,

21:03

sportsbooks weren't even offering bets on

21:05

Eastern Illinois to win straight up.

21:07

By beating Iowa ninety two to

21:09

eighty three, Eastern Illinois became the

21:11

first underdog of thirty points of more

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to win in the past thirty

21:15

seasons. Prior to this,

21:17

underdog's of thirty points of more were

21:19

zero and five hundred and fifty

21:21

eight in that time. Arizona

21:23

state ranked 25th and on a nine game

21:25

heater got roasted by San

21:27

Francisco last night. San Francisco opened

21:29

the game on a twenty four to two

21:31

run. How's that for Hello? At one

21:33

point, the Don's led by forty

21:35

seven. And possible happy trails to

21:37

Tom is those green elsewhere that

21:39

he warned got teed up on last night.

21:41

As Michigan State, you know, is

21:43

a award and tribute to his pal, Open Coach,

21:45

Greg Campi, who apparently wears ugly

21:47

Christmas sweaters like this all the

21:49

time. Is a one of my absolute favorites

21:53

Tony, I I mean, when you look at

21:55

those there's some big upsets. When you're in

21:57

San Francisco, tell me you don't first

21:59

think of Bill Cartwright. Oh,

22:01

I think a Notre Dame in San Francisco. Yeah.

22:04

That was a tribute to your buddy, Dick

22:06

or Wouldn't they didn't Notre Dame beat

22:08

them? Yeah. Yeah. And they were under Peter.

22:10

Let's go to the big finish to it. Yep. They were under

22:12

Peter. Twenty nine and PTI, I think the Celtics

22:14

have lost five to six because

22:16

for concern, a little bit. Tony a little

22:18

bit. I mean, Milwaukee even passing by a half

22:20

game for now for the first place. Long

22:22

season will be fine. Chase Young

22:24

is gonna be active Washington Saturday, just

22:26

bananas. That's significant.

22:28

It's been a long time

22:30

thirteen months since he's played football.

22:33

Caitlin Clark of Iowa reached a two thousand

22:35

point plateau after just seventy five

22:37

games. Are you impressed? Yes. Elena

22:39

Deladon was the last one to do that after seventy five

22:41

games as well. That's great company to be

22:43

in. Lockheed, Martin armed

22:45

forces goal tonight, Baylor Air Force,

22:47

oh, yeah. God. I

22:49

got Air Force just like James Carver making it a

22:51

triple play. Last one, your black clumps of

22:53

Las Vegas straight. Oh, look

22:56

good. Told me this is the worst Blackhawk

22:58

team I've ever seen.

23:00

Ever. Ever. Real on time for me.

23:02

Rod in time. We'll try and do better the

23:04

next time. Drew, Teva's congratulations. I'm

23:07

Mike Wilbaud. Happy holidays

23:09

and knuckleheads. We're off until

23:11

Tuesday, January third. So that's, you

23:13

know, we got a days with Alice. Very

23:16

Christmas, happy New Year. And

23:18

now,