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let's get our guys in here. Let's get
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Jimmy and Roman in here on VikingsVentLine.
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Jimmy making his debut edition.
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Roman, you're returning for a
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third time, I believe, here.
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Jimmy, I know there's not a lot of
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Taylor Swift and Purple Daily Vikings fans.
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I am one of them. I'm a
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rare one of them. So I alienate
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some of myself here, but I do
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appreciate the JJ Eras Tour shirt you're
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rocking here today. Yeah, thank you. It's
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from the TikTok. Those
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Taylor targeted ads are getting a little bit
3:23
too scary accurate these days. Yes,
3:26
they are. They certainly are. Roman, welcome back to
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VikingsVentLine, dude. How are you? Thanks,
3:30
Dex. Good to be here. Thanks for
3:32
having me. I'm good. It's good
3:35
to be a Viking fan. Exciting time. Heck
3:38
yeah. Let's talk some drafts here, boys. We're
3:40
days away. There's been tons of
3:42
speculation. There's been tons of mocks. There's been a ton of
3:45
valuations. We've been able to break down a lot of it
3:47
right here on Purple Daily. But I'd love to
3:49
ask you guys, Roman, I'll start with you. Which
3:52
quarterback do you want the Vikings to go grab?
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I'm going to assume Caleb Williams is obviously off
3:56
the board, but which quarterback do you want to
3:59
see the Vikings go grab on the draft
4:01
on Thursday? Sure, great
4:03
question. I'm going to give you
4:05
a kind of a long winded,
4:07
complicated answer because it is complicated.
4:10
I would love to see us go
4:12
get Jane Daniels. Just I think he's
4:14
the most well-rounded, balanced quarterback.
4:16
Great skill set. Would plug
4:19
in well to Kevin O'Connell's scheme
4:21
and our offense. However, realistically, I
4:23
don't know if we're willing to go get him. He's
4:26
probably going at number two to
4:29
Washington. If for some
4:31
reason they pass on him and
4:34
he falls to three, I would love
4:36
to see Quacy and the front office
4:40
try and put something together to go get him at three. Problem
4:43
is, for them, is it
4:45
too much? Again, you guys
4:47
have talked endlessly on the show
4:49
in past episodes about going
4:52
up and giving up kind of
4:54
whatever you need to to go get
4:56
your guy and who Kevin thinks is
4:58
our guy and Quacy and so forth.
5:00
So I would love that. However, realistically,
5:02
probably Drake May and JJ McCarthy are
5:04
our best options. And they are great
5:06
options. I would love to see either
5:08
one of them. But really,
5:11
my answer is whoever Kevin O'Connell
5:13
can elevate the highest and get
5:15
the most out of in our
5:17
system. We've seen Kevin
5:19
O'Connell elevate Kirk Cousins. And
5:22
that plug and play, he didn't really have a
5:24
lot of mobility. Kirk O'Chains
5:26
didn't. But he got the most
5:28
out of Kirk and elevated him as a leader.
5:32
We then saw the other end of the
5:34
spectrum, which lost jobs and his
5:36
skill set and his mobility. And we were
5:38
very excited when we picked him up from
5:40
Arizona mid-season. And he did
5:42
some flashy things right away. And then
5:44
after the first two weeks, when
5:46
we played Denver, things kind of rolled
5:49
downhill. And was that
5:51
more so because Dobbs was out of his
5:53
depth? Yes, I think so. But also, was
5:55
that Kevin trying to put the reins on
5:57
him and plug him into the offense that
5:59
he wanted? adopts the run. And
6:01
I think the truth is somewhere in
6:03
the middle. So it's interesting, we talk
6:05
about mobility. Drake May has that, he's
6:07
got that playmaking factor, he has that
6:09
downfield ability, but who
6:12
is going to be able to take this
6:14
offense and elevate it to its highest and
6:16
be the best in Kevin's system? JJ
6:18
McCarthy may be that guy. So interesting to see,
6:20
but all in all, I want to see the
6:24
guy that can be elevated the most in our
6:26
offensive scheme. Absolutely. Yeah. You know,
6:28
I think a lot of fans have
6:31
a lot of trust in what Kevin O'Connell wants
6:33
to do here. I wouldn't say that's
6:35
completely universal. I think some fans, you know,
6:37
still are a little skeptical about certain prospects
6:39
with KOC, but you know, they kind
6:41
of have no other choice basically, but to trust
6:43
him here in year one, or at least year
6:45
one with the rookie quarterback, as he enters his
6:47
third season coaching the Vikings. So I'm
6:49
excited to see who he drafts. And yeah, if
6:52
it's Daniels or if it's McCarthy, which kind of
6:54
feel like McCarthy might be the one, I'm
6:57
really excited to see that. Jimmy, are you looking at a
6:59
QB that you really want the Vikings to go grab at
7:01
the draft? Dear
7:07
diary, I would love Jayden Daniels. I
7:09
just think he has it. I mean,
7:11
throwing 40 touchdowns and rushing for 10
7:13
in the SEC is no joke, but
7:15
I think he's pretty
7:17
much good to put on a commander's jersey right
7:20
now. I think he's going to be out of our
7:22
depth. So I think the Vikings best chance to move
7:25
up to three, probably getting Drake May, but I'm, I
7:27
think I'm in the minority that I'm excited to see
7:29
what Kevin O'Connell can do with Sam Darnold, you
7:31
know, like back in like 2021, like he,
7:33
even those first five weeks, like
7:36
he had those leading the league and
7:38
rushing touchdowns. Like he has that mobility
7:40
that we're not really used to with
7:42
Kirk. And now that he's out of the building, I'm
7:44
at least excited to see what he can do with it. I
7:46
think Drake May is, is
7:50
great. I don't know if I'm necessarily ready
7:52
to start him week one. So I think
7:54
that that's a really great opportunity for him
7:57
to come to Minnesota, maybe sit a year
7:59
behind Darnold. the reins and everything
8:01
and then possibly pass on and
8:03
pass the keys over to Drake.
8:05
But I really think
8:08
we can't go wrong, at least that the
8:10
Vikings have, like you all mentioned in early
8:12
podcasts, we have almost two-quid of a car
8:15
that I think so long as it's
8:17
their guy, then I think
8:20
they're going to be fine. But I also really believe
8:22
that this draft class is too deep to
8:24
overpay for somebody. So I think like especially
8:26
if we're going to be throwing
8:29
in anything beyond the 11 and the
8:31
23, I think we'll
8:33
know as a fan base that that is
8:35
really Kweisi's and Kevin O'Connell's guy because there's
8:37
so many good options, even like QB5, QB6,
8:39
like Spencer, Rattler, O'Nix, any of those guys
8:41
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8:43
have probably gone much, much sooner, at least
8:46
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well, Jimmy, let me stick on you there. Let's
9:21
actually kind of transition to that Sam Darnold question
9:23
I sent you guys over too. So do you
9:25
trust Sam Darnold to play a full season? Do
9:28
you think he can get the most out of
9:30
him as the rookie maybe just kind of gradually
9:32
learns the system, gets the ropes, learns
9:34
the ropes and is able to kind of ease
9:37
his way to the NFL? I think if anybody were to do
9:39
it, it's Kevin. And I mean, it's the whole reason why we
9:46
hired him and I think we as a fan base kind of need to
9:49
back that up. And I mean, if we're not getting
9:51
anything out of him or out of
9:53
a rookie quarterback, then maybe we were wrong
9:55
on Kevin O'Connell. But until he gives us
9:57
a reason to not believe in him.
10:00
him and everything. I'm a big Kevin
10:02
O'Connell stan. I
10:05
guess he's got a little bit of an injury
10:07
bug. I know back in like 2022, he had that ankle thing. And
10:10
I mean, that was obviously after Baker had already won
10:13
the starting job in Carolina. But I
10:15
mean, he played entirely healthy last year. And I think
10:19
my personal preference is that I'd really like for
10:21
the rookie quarterback, regardless of who they are, to
10:23
get the city year behind Sam Darnold. Hopefully
10:26
that's sitting behind Sam Darnold, taking us all
10:28
the way to the playoffs and the Super
10:30
Bowl. But if
10:32
not, I do believe that Sam Darnold
10:34
can at least get us some quality reps and
10:36
at least better than what we currently have
10:38
on the roster. For
10:41
sure. Roman, how about you, man? Is Sam
10:43
Darnold able to take a next step here?
10:45
I mean, is there a world where Sam
10:47
Darnold leads the Vikings to the playoffs? What's
10:50
your kind of expectations for Darnold as the
10:52
starting quarterback of the Vikings? Yeah,
10:54
I mean, anything is possible. And Jimmy, I love
10:57
your answer because I agree
10:59
with you. If there's anybody to elevate
11:03
Sam's game, it's Kevin O'Connell.
11:06
I mean, he took Nick Mullins, for goodness
11:08
sake, and he threw for over 1,300 yards. And
11:10
there were some games he was throwing for over 400. So
11:13
when you've got JJ, TJ, JA, and all of
11:16
the weapons that
11:19
we've got on offense, it's kind of hard
11:21
to fail. So he's a guy that I
11:23
think will keep
11:25
us on a steady ship and make us
11:28
competitive. He's probably the
11:30
best mediocre quarterback that you can ask
11:32
for to at least hopefully lead us
11:34
to the playoffs. My projections are 11
11:36
and 6, best case scenario,
11:38
absolute best case scenario for the record.
11:41
And my hot take is that we end up being
11:44
the top four best in the NFC
11:46
teams. So fourth
11:49
best not seeding wise. So I think we
11:51
get in as a wild card behind
11:54
Detroit. But I do think that we have
11:56
the fourth best record in the NFC.
12:00
I don't know. It depends. I do think he will play at least
12:02
half the season and depending on
12:08
who we get in the draft as well, like
12:10
a JJ McCarthy, I think starts at least some
12:12
point in the season. If we get
12:14
him, if it's Drake May completely
12:18
agree. I think he we fit him the
12:20
entire year just based on where he is and
12:22
what the scouts are saying and other you
12:28
know front office professionals throughout
12:30
the league. But yes, I
12:32
think Sam definitely could take
12:35
us to above 500 football. I just don't
12:38
know if he has enough to get us
12:40
deep into the postseason. Yeah. What
12:43
about Jimmy? Do you have a hot take? Put you
12:45
on the spot here a little bit, but do you have
12:47
a hot take for the Vikings coming up this season,
12:49
whether it's Sam Darnold or team related? Oh,
12:53
geez. I have a Vikings
12:55
hot take and I have a draft hot
12:58
take. I'll start with my draft
13:00
hot take. My draft hot take is that
13:02
Michael Pennock would be getting a lot more
13:04
love if he weren't a left-handed quarterback. I
13:08
think that he'd be a lot higher than
13:10
going top 15 in the draft if offense
13:12
didn't essentially have to rework
13:15
their scheme. That's why I think that a
13:17
team like Vegas is probably a good landing
13:19
spot for him. Somebody with a rookie head
13:21
coach that's not going to have to essentially
13:23
rewrite the playbook or something around them because
13:25
they're going to kind of be developing together
13:28
with it as opposed to someone like the
13:30
Vikings where I know that he has all
13:33
the physical attributes, but the Vikings are kind
13:35
of tailored too. I'm praying that we're very
13:37
fortunate to have bookend tackles and everything and
13:40
maybe there's a world in which Daresau switches
13:42
over and plays right tackle too
13:45
if we were to actually end
13:47
up taking him. My Vikings hot
13:49
take though is that in
13:52
similar line is that I do think that we finish
13:55
in the top of the league.
13:57
I think if we do make the playoffs, I think it's
14:00
it would probably be as like maybe like the seventh
14:02
seed closer to that. But
14:04
I do think that as a scoring offense
14:06
that whoever's trying to turn in
14:08
the car still can give us a top
14:11
10 scoring offense. Okay,
14:13
I like it. Yeah, if I mean,
14:16
there's always so many variables in NFL seasons
14:18
and it'll be interesting to see like kind
14:20
of where the Vikings fall into that, whether
14:22
that's in a positive way. Maybe they just
14:24
they don't take a step back and they're
14:26
just right back in the playoff picture. Maybe that's gonna be
14:28
a little bit of a growing pains with
14:31
Sam Darnold and maybe the rookie takes over and shows
14:33
you a little something to get excited about the next
14:35
year and the long term plan of Vikings looks a
14:37
lot better. But the NFL is kind of
14:39
not set up for teams just be bad for year
14:41
after year. And I think KOC and with this roster
14:43
are, I think it's too good
14:45
for it to be really bad pending catastrophic
14:47
injuries. Going back to
14:49
the draft, Roman, is there positions you also want
14:51
to see the Vikings kind of try
14:54
to figure out in the draft here? I mean, there
14:56
are some holes in the roster. So outside a quarterback on
14:59
draft day throughout what rounds or days one,
15:01
two and three, what positions you want to
15:03
see the Vikings go after? Yeah,
15:06
I know that answer changed for me
15:08
as soon as the free agency started,
15:11
right? Because we made some moves early on,
15:13
which were good to see. Hunter
15:16
leaving hurts, but with
15:18
the defensive ends that we got,
15:20
Van Ginkle, you talk about
15:22
a Viking name, Van Ginkle. Yeah,
15:25
he was the one guy that I wanted us
15:28
to get in a free agency. And he was
15:30
mentioned on your show as the top 10 for
15:32
agency prospects. And I was really happy to see
15:34
them be so aggressive to start
15:36
the season and not let guys with
15:39
big potential and early in their career
15:41
slip and fall to other teams. So
15:43
that was good to see. So
15:46
a couple of weeks ago, my answer would have
15:48
been different. But right now, I would say defensive
15:50
tackle, number one, you've got to get some depth.
15:52
You've got to get some help out there for
15:54
Harrison Phillips. He's a good solid starter, but he's
15:56
not a guy that you're going to be able
15:58
to hang your hat on and is a star
16:01
on your defense. So you need somebody to help
16:03
with the offensive running game, to
16:05
help defend against the running game, but also
16:08
put some pressure on the quarterback from the
16:10
pass rush standpoint. We still have a lot
16:12
of work to do in that regard. So
16:14
finding a big body up front in the
16:16
middle at the tackle would
16:18
be my number one after quarterback, of
16:21
course. And then offensive guard, Brandell,
16:24
just isn't to me the answer.
16:26
He's a good depth guy, but
16:28
you need somebody to get in
16:30
there and start all season. And
16:32
if, for whatever reason, there's an
16:34
injury, Brandell can go
16:36
in and I think would
16:38
be a suitable backup. But I don't know in
16:41
terms of starting if he's going to be that
16:43
all season. So Reisner is still out there. We've
16:45
talked about that until we're blue in the face.
16:47
Who knows what's happening there. But
16:49
I think offensive guard cornerback
16:52
is third on my list. Inexperienced
16:56
room there. I would
16:59
love for us to see
17:01
some improvement. I think we have a lot of
17:03
promise there, but I would like to see another
17:05
young guy potentially that could shine through.
17:07
And then wide receiver is
17:09
my fourth need. And then a punter. Let's
17:11
go get Tori Taylor. Yeah,
17:15
they could use some more. They're going to use
17:17
a special teams overall. And yeah, wide receiver is
17:19
an interesting one. Because obviously, I mean, JJ and
17:21
Addison are studs, but there's just a huge drop
17:23
off after that. And injuries are
17:25
going to happen. Some things are going to happen
17:27
there. And you can't really trust maybe Brandon Powell
17:29
or some random free agent that could still go
17:31
grab to kind of be the third wide out.
17:33
So maybe there's like an explosive wide receiver. And
17:35
this class does look like it does have a
17:37
lot of depth at wide receiver in
17:39
the NFL draft. So that is an important one too
17:42
that probably some fans forget about. Jimmy,
17:44
how about you? Any of those positions that you really want
17:46
to see the Vikings go after in the draft? Yeah,
17:52
my number one is the same. I think
17:54
D-Tackle is definitely where we're hurting the most.
17:56
I know that you all on the previous
17:58
show are going over essential. where the Vikings
18:00
roster sits as of today. And
18:03
I was definitely getting pretty nervous hearing who we
18:05
currently have to play interior right now. But yeah,
18:08
this draft class, I think would be a great one,
18:10
especially some of those fourth round picks. Maybe we could
18:12
even, if we're not giving them away as a kicker
18:15
to move up in the draft, maybe even pairing the
18:17
two fourth round picks to jump up into the third
18:19
or possibly even second with some future picks to get
18:21
some of those, some of those
18:24
other bigger namedy tackles. Or maybe now because
18:26
of his DUI, maybe sweat
18:28
drops down. The
18:30
fourth round and the Vikings can rehabilitate
18:33
him in everything. We'll
18:35
just see what happens with that. But I
18:37
do think that for me personally, wide receiver
18:39
is our second biggest hole. Our
18:42
offensive line I think is okay.
18:44
Obviously our interior is questionable, but
18:47
I think we have the building blocks for it.
18:49
At least we do have some experience with
18:52
Gary Bradbury and our two tackles. But
18:54
wide receiver especially, I think we've seen it
18:56
with when JJ went down last season.
18:58
Jordan Asen stepped up and that was
19:00
huge, but TJ's status is gonna be
19:03
relatively unknown,
19:07
at least for the couple. We can kind of expect
19:09
him to not be available the first few weeks of
19:12
the season. So I think having a couple more reliable
19:14
pass catchers, especially if we do end up having a
19:16
rookie quarterback, getting some meaningful
19:18
minutes for us. I'd like him to
19:20
have as many weapons and options available.
19:23
And then moving on to corner and
19:25
guard as well. I think there's still
19:27
a couple of good free agents that are currently available.
19:29
Some of them a little bit older like the Xavier
19:31
and Howard's of the world, who
19:33
I think maybe the Vikings could call week three or
19:36
week four if whoever is currently
19:38
on roster aren't doing it for us. But yeah,
19:40
I think my top two holes that we need
19:42
to fill in the draft are tackle and
19:45
wide receiver behind quarterback. I
19:48
like it. Yeah, I'm excited for the draft play
19:50
out. We'll see if they have even day two picks
19:52
right now. They don't have any second or third round
19:54
picks. There could be some trade back situations. So gonna
19:56
be a fascinating draft to figure out, especially when we're
19:58
all trying to figure out which- quarterback is gonna be
20:00
the next franchise guy for the Vikings after moving
20:03
on from Kirk Cousins. Roman
20:05
do you have any last takes? I know both of
20:07
you guys were able to drop some hot takes there
20:09
in the middle of this episode but any other final
20:12
takes any shout outs you'd love to give go ahead
20:14
my man. Sure well thanks
20:16
again for bringing me on first
20:19
off I'm gonna go with a hot take slash
20:21
write that down Kevin O'Connell will
20:23
win coach of the year. All
20:26
right I like it boom I like
20:28
it and I
20:30
would like to thank my dad for
20:32
bringing me in for a lifetime of
20:34
misery and pain but entertainment at the
20:36
same time I love being a Viking
20:38
fan so many memories growing up at
20:40
home just having him hooping and
20:42
hollering picking me up on his shoulders
20:45
when the Vikings would pull a
20:47
big win out that Lambeau playoff
20:49
win with the moon and the
20:51
Despicable Act by Randy Moss the
20:53
great moments the not so good
20:56
moments but so my dad
20:58
definitely shout out to him and my wife
21:00
for putting up with me so
21:03
yeah. I like it Jimmy how about you
21:06
man you shout out some last takes? Yeah
21:08
I'll shout out my oldest brother
21:10
so I'm from Virginia my
21:12
oldest brother is the reason why I'm a Vikings
21:15
fan both my parents are from Philly so I
21:17
really do have every reason to be an Eagles
21:19
fan
21:24
a chance game of Tecmo Super Bowl in
21:26
the early 90s where my brother with Wayne
21:28
Wilson throwing a hundred yard pass
21:30
to Chris corner somehow cemented his his
21:32
fandom as a Viking and as an
21:35
impressionable little brother wanted to
21:37
follow and root for the same team as my big
21:39
brother so a shout out to him
21:41
for bringing me into this I recently had a had
21:43
a daughter as well so I'm excited to bring her
21:45
into the fold of Viking a Viking
21:47
fandom and hopefully we can win a Super Bowl if not
21:49
in my lifetime hopefully at least in hers but
21:52
also shout outs to I'm in a couple of different
21:54
fantasy football leagues as well so shout out to all
21:56
my boys that play fantasy football with. I like
21:59
it guys awesome stuff. I appreciate you
22:01
both coming on Vikings Vent Line here.
22:03
We'll do it again another time for
22:05
sure and if anyone watching, listening, wants
22:07
to come on a future episode you
22:09
can hit me up. It's [email protected]. It's
22:11
draft week now coming up at Purple
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