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Q and On is the world's largest online

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political conspiracy movement. Followers

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believe someone code named Q is provided

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them with secret information from inside the

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White House. No one really knows

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the real identity of Q, though we

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aim to change that. I'm

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Jake Hanrahan and this is Q Clearance,

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a podcast series aimed unmasking

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the true identity of Q. This

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is brought to you by I R Radio and

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Q Dayta Media.

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In this first episode, will be getting

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to grips with what Q and On is for

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those that don't know, looking into

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the history of this strange movement, and

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hearing from some of the main researchers involved

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in trying to dismantle Q and

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On. On

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juneen, a

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man blocked a bridge near the Hoover Dam with

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a homemade armored vehicle. Inside.

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The man held firearms and nine hundred

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rounds about nisition So now in

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FBI custody tonight after blocking

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traffic on the Hoover damn bypassed

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bridge with a truck, Arizona

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troopers say Right had a handgun and rifle

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inside the truck and a note that

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read released the o I G Report. According

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to police, he did this as a protest,

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demanding that a report he'd heard about via

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an online conspiracy be released

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to the public. This conspiracy

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theory started in October. That's

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when someone calling themselves Q Clearance

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Patriot first wrote a public

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message on the notorious for Chan website.

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The original poster, now known as Q,

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inferred that they were a US government insider

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with knowledge that would expose a deep

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state conspiracy within American politics.

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This spawned what is now the Q and On phenomena,

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the conspiracy theory so complex

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that it's formed a cult like following. Many

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of its followers think Q is associated

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with Donald Trump and that he's cryptically

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community cating with them via obscule image

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boards online. Hundreds

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of thousands of people across the world believe

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in this now, and as a result, Q

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and On has torn families apart, led

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people to violence, and it's even infiltrating

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the highest levels of government with disinformation.

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Now, more than seventy

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U S congressional candidates of either shared

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or outright endorsed Q and on material,

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and President Trump himself is even

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given availed thumbs up to the movement. During

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the pandemic, the Q and

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On movement has been appears to

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be getting a lot of followers. Can you talk about

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what you think about that and what you have to

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say to people who are following

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this movement right now? Well, I don't know much

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about the movement other than I understand they

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like me very much, which I appreciate.

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But I don't know much about the movement. It's

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difficult. That's the cross of the theory. It

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is this belief that you are secretly

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saving the world from this satanic

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cult of pedophiles and cannibals.

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Does that sound like something you

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are behind or I haven't.

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I haven't heard that. But is

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that supposed to be a bad thing or a good thing?

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If if I can

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help save the world from As I've already mentioned,

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outside of what the conspiracy community

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is saying, nobody quite knows

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the true identity of Q. We

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want to change that with this series, so we'll

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be looking into the many different theories surrounding

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this, such as the idea that the

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Q account has changed hands, that

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it's the left wing hoax, and that it's

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been a way for online grifters

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simply to make money off of adverts

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on the websites. We're going to

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get into the intricacies of what Q

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and on is and isn't what the followers

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believe in trying to wrap our heads

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around the confusing Q map, and

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I'm going to try and attempt to unravel

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some of the mysteries surrounding Q and On.

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Now, for me, this is something a little bit

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different because primarily I'm

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what you might call a war report.

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I've spent the last seven years working from various

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frontline battles across the world. I've

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reported from Syria, Iraq, Ukraine,

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Southeast Turkey, Palestine, all

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over the place, and I currently run my

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own grassroots conflict journalism

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platform called popular Front.

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But as one as the war stuff, I've always been

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very online, spending hours

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and hours on obscure message boards

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in Internet rabbit holes and

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looking into the proliferation of conspiracy

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theories. I know a bit, but I definitely

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need help with all the Q and on stuff, so

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I've recruited Sarah Hightower to assist

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with research. She's too shy to admit

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it out in the open, but Sarah Hightower

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is one of the best researchers

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of online extremism in America. She's

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completely self taught, and in my

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opinion, understands Q and On

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better than any of the academics and

4:51

the welfared extremism experts

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working as talking heads for TV news.

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She cares deeply for the people caught up in

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this, and after years recreationally

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online in some of the most fringe

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parts of the Internet, Sarah effectively

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speaks the language fluently as

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I do. She thinks it's incredibly important

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to shine a light on who actually

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is behind Q and on, whoever the

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hell it is. They've been lying to people, manipulating

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people, radicalizing people, and tearing

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families apart for like two years unchecked,

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So I think finding out who it is, who

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it was, and who it has been is very important

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because there's got to be some accountability. She's

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very eccentric, a bit of a web and

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it's kind of weird, and I don't

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say that in a bad way. I think that's what makes

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her so good. Sarah has also

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seen firsthand the effects

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of Q and On. Early on mid

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to I had a friend of mine her

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parents stopped talking to her in real life, so

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she reached out to me and she said, Hey, do you think

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this Q and on thing is occult? And I was like, what are

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you talking about and she started

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explaining that like her parents had

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started reading these things called

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Q drops because apparently

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someone in the government with like a special clearance

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was sending these super secret messages.

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And she said that her parents had stopped talking to her and

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that her stepdad, I think, just spent all

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of his time watching Q tubers.

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I was like, what is a Q tube? And

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so that's how I learned about it, and then I

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tried to help her with her family, and that's when I was like, oh,

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this is this is actually like a court called, isn't

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it? And it is so

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clearly we're both critical of Q

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and on. Sarah thinks it's some kind of cult.

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I think it's a bit of a madness. But to

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give the listeners an idea of what

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direction I'm taking with this investigation,

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it's worth knowing now that I am not a

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supporter of Hillary Clinton. I am

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not a supporter of Donald Trump or any

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of the others you've probably noticed

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British and whilst I'm

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not a particular fan of any politicianal

6:53

government, I don't really have a dog

6:55

in this race. I am not a political

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but I'm just not are interested in the

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shrill partisan politics that

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have seemingly taken over in the US.

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That's what it looks like over here across the

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pond. Of course, a lot of people say,

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what do you know, You're British? Forget about

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that, don't worry. This is about the Q and On investigation.

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Why I am interested in is how

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Q and on grew so huge so

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quickly, and who's actually behind

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this. This podcast is not trying to

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mark, demonize, or laugh

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at Q and On believers directly. What

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we are trying to do is lay out why anyone

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that's involved in Q and On, is Q

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and On curious or has a family

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member set adrift with this conspiracy,

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why they should consider rethinking their positions

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that and to simply report on our

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findings whilst looking into the

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true identity of Q. We're

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not going to scream at you, tell you're insane

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or glow, but we are going to point out

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with evidence why we think Q

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and On is a complete hoax. First

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things first, for anyone who's out there still saying,

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what the funk even his Q and On, let's

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tackle that bit to begin with. Now. Personally,

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I would describe T and on as the

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largest somewhat decentralized

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online conspiracy community on Earth

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right now. As I mentioned at the start, the

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followers believe that the Donald

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Trump administration will bring upon a

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new political age where Democrats

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are hanged for treason, leftists

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around it up and imprisoned, and

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a political deep state trying to rule America

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from within will be defeated

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by Trump and Q. They

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think Q is a high level

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political operative within the circles of the White

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House. They think that he's chosen

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image boards such as four chan and

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h chan to secretly relay

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information about the aforementioned plan

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to wreck the deep State. Now,

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I know that sounds outlandish, but

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remember hundreds of thousands of

8:57

people across the world believe in this now,

8:59

and big political figures in America

9:02

have been openly speaking about que

9:04

as if it's a normal thing. The messages

9:07

that Q posts are known as que

9:09

drops and are often cryptic.

9:11

They predict things that never happened and

9:14

availed in this strange speak

9:16

of a misdirection. Now,

9:18

it might sound a bit outlandish and

9:21

kind of strange, but all of

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this was incubated in the world

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of online image boards. You

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might have heard of them, the chance four chan, h

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and etcetera. Let's scale

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back a bit to explain what these actually are and

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how they became the battleground

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for Q now,

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I would describe these image

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boards as, arguably, for

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better or worse, the last

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bastions of the early wild West

9:48

version of the Internet that many of us grew up

9:50

with. I'm thirty years old. I spent

9:52

a lot of time as about fourteen fifteen,

9:55

even younger on the Internet before all

9:57

the kind of rules came in, before social media

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relatic over, and you know

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it was, it was a much more fun time. Um.

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But if you've never seen one of these image boards

10:06

before, it's kind of

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an anonymous Internet bulletin board

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where you can chat as well, so users

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will post up topics based on their

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own interests. Each post needs

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to be started with an image. Replies

10:20

create a thread which is eventually deleted.

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Nothing is archived on the actual image

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board itself. And trust

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me, fortune is big

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and very influential on Internet culture,

10:31

even if you've never heard of it before. With

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around twenty two million unique visitors

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a month, four chan is the most well

10:38

known and most infamous image

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board. It was first launched in October

10:42

two thousand and three by American

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programmer Christopher Pool, also

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known as Moot. Moot,

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ran four channel for eleven years before

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stepping down to go work for Google. Fortune

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began as a place to share anime images,

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and it quickly built its own online culture,

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almost indecipherable to people not familiar

11:02

with it. Many memes, internet

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raids, and historic online pranks

11:07

were founded on the boards of four Chan. In

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recent years, though, four Chan became

11:11

known as a place that incubated

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the new Old Right in the US,

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it was linked with scandal after scandal,

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as school shooters, Nazi

11:21

terrorists, and murderers all

11:23

began posting up on four Chan. Despite

11:26

this, most of the boards are actually completely

11:28

harmless. For example, there's a board for origami,

11:31

there's a board for Pokemon, cooking the

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i y. It's all there.

11:35

It's not all bad. The oddity

11:37

of the chance, though, is that all these running

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tandem with boards that promote far right

11:42

agendas, sexual abuse

11:44

and anime a porn. Now.

11:47

I know that sounds outlandish, but

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remember hundreds of thousands of

11:51

people across the world believe in this now,

11:54

and big political figures in America

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have been openly speaking about que

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as if it's a normal thing. Trump's

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regular interaction with Q

12:03

and On followers on Twitter is

12:05

another thing that gives them belief

12:08

that this is all real. For example,

12:10

in July, he retweeted fourteen

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tweets from an account supporting Q and On.

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Now, obviously Trump isn't going to look at the

12:17

bios and the accounts of the people he retweets.

12:19

He probably should seem as he's the president, but

12:21

he isn't going to do that. Q and On

12:24

followers don't see it as a coincidence.

12:26

They think it's him saying yeah, I'm with

12:28

you, and that adds more gravity

12:30

to the messages that Q puts out online.

12:39

These messages that Q posts

12:41

are known as Q drops.

12:44

They predict things that never happen and

12:46

availed in this strange speak

12:48

of a misdirection. Q and

12:50

Ons think this is all part of the plan, though

12:54

for d Chess at its most intelligent,

12:56

oh when. There's also a large helping

12:58

of deep state pedophile theories

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to Q and On, some of which are

13:03

based in the truth of Jeffrey

13:05

Epstein's horrific elitist

13:07

pedophile crimes, but most

13:09

of which are based on complete fantasy

13:12

and rampant speculation. For

13:14

example, I was watching a prominent Q and on

13:16

YouTuber a while ago, and he said

13:18

that him and many other Q and on followers

13:21

believe that there's literally a video

13:24

of Hillary Clinton executing

13:26

a child, cutting off the child's

13:28

face and wearing it as a

13:30

mask. Somehow such

13:33

a video is actually never been released to a

13:35

seen yet the Q and on's

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are adamant that it exists. It's

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deeply disturbing stuff at times.

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Now, that's my basic explanation

13:45

of Q and on and the various facets to what

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they believe. But let's hear from

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Travis view. Travis is

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part of Q and on, Anonymous,

13:54

a podcast that spent years

13:56

looking into Q and It's different

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ideas. I was rabit as

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both a very sort of complex meta

14:03

conspiracy theory that kind of connects

14:06

every other conspiracy theory under its

14:08

broad kind of umbrella. And

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also they kind of a community

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of of people who believe

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in this particular extremist worldview.

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I mean, the broad narrative adheres

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to a lot of classic New World Order conspiracy

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theories. They believe that the world controlled by

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this satanic cabal pedophiles

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who hold all the lever's power, including

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entertainment media and politicians,

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And they further believe that that

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that this cabal with continued indefinitely,

14:39

were not for the election of Donald Trump. They believe

14:41

that Trump, uh, you know, knows all about the

14:43

cabal. In some instances, they believe that Trump

14:45

has been planning for decades to assume the presidency

14:48

to help take down take down this cabal.

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And they further believe that you know, Trump is

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uh you know, with the help of this high

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level group of military intelligence officials

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known as Q Team, is send the outcoded

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messages about the secret operation

15:03

on these image boards. Travis

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has done so much work in too q and On exposing

15:08

the many holes in their theories that he's

15:10

actually become a kind of enemy of the movement

15:13

that often tweet about him angrily and

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take the piss out of him and his colleagues on

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YouTube videos all the rest of it. They don't

15:20

like him now. Travis thinks that q and

15:22

on account has changed hands several times

15:25

from its inception on four Chan in two

15:29

now. You know, even even if

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we we are kind of shaky on the details

15:33

of who exactly was the original

15:35

cue poster and who is now the

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the author of the que raps, I

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do not think it's the same person. The

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way that Q and on followers determined

15:45

what is and isn't a que drop,

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as in, was it from que? Was it someone

15:49

pretending to be him is by

15:51

using something called a trip code.

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Will go deeper into that in a later episode,

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but essentially, a trip code allows

15:58

an anonymous user to be semi

16:01

identified online. Q and

16:03

On's checked the Q trip code and boom

16:06

to them, they know it's him.

16:08

The Q and on trip code has changed once

16:10

or twice, and there's other people in the Q team's

16:13

sphere of influence that have different

16:15

trip codes determining their roles.

16:17

For example, many Q and ons think

16:19

another poster called Q plus

16:22

is Donald Trump himself. Yeah,

16:24

they really think that he's out there doing

16:26

that. One and on YouTuber

16:29

called Craig Mason I watched has

16:31

said it's completely obvious that Q

16:33

plus is Trump because he wants kind

16:36

of sort of made this Q and

16:38

A plus symbol in the air at one of his events whilst

16:40

pointing to someone in the crowd. Um,

16:43

yeah, it's it's weird that Travis of you is

16:45

not convinced. I mean, yeah, Trump does

16:47

this thing at rallies where he points at

16:49

people where he points out a group of people

16:52

by waving his finger in the air. Uh,

16:55

and and he got So

16:57

the QUA community got got the idea

16:59

of um, they

17:02

that this is a secret signal to

17:04

the Q and that community. I mean, I don't

17:07

see it. It looks like a circle to me. Yeah,

17:09

it looks more like a circle. Yeah. Yeah, but

17:12

but it Yeah, they

17:14

just got into the got into this. Uh,

17:16

this this idea that like basically every

17:19

gesture, every sort of subtle sign that

17:21

Trump gives off is somehow validating

17:23

to their world view. So as you see.

17:26

The thing about Q and on that has helped

17:28

some of the wild theories grow is

17:31

that it doesn't take a lot for believers

17:33

to see confirmation in the real world.

17:36

So they'll see a Q post and then often

17:38

shoehorn in an offline event such

17:41

as a throwaway typo in a tweet

17:43

or a hand gesture from Trump to

17:46

prove that Q is who they claim

17:48

it to be. After all, Q often says

17:51

there are no coincidences, so

17:53

then the followers think, yeah, that's not a coincidence

17:56

that was meant for us. It's kind

17:58

of like if you look at panned war paper

18:00

long enough, you'll see a face in it. The

18:02

face isn't meant to be there, It isn't really

18:05

there, but somehow you can see it.

18:07

It's the same kind of thing you catch my drift. So

18:10

this all ties back into the

18:12

image boards being the place where Q speaks.

18:15

They have a culture of mystery and

18:18

far fetched ideas that are often taken

18:20

seriously. Even through a hail

18:22

of cynicism and people throwing

18:24

insults at the original poster, people

18:26

do still often take a lot of what is going

18:28

out there seriously, even if it seems

18:31

like everybody is telling them to go funk themselves. Now,

18:33

you might be thinking that four chan hardly

18:36

seems like a place where you'd expect a

18:38

highly intelligent White House insider

18:41

to go to to spread information that would

18:43

ultimately help save America.

18:46

According to the two followers, at least,

18:48

what's more unusual is that q quickly

18:51

immigrated to an even darker

18:53

image board, h Chan. H

18:56

chan is like four chan's even

18:58

more fucked up evil isn't

19:00

like for cha, and it had a similar set up

19:02

with the image board and what have you, but it

19:05

devolved into something even worse.

19:07

Specifically, it became a place for anonymous

19:10

users to discuss the sharing

19:13

of child abuse images pedophiles

19:16

were actively posting on h h and before

19:18

it was removed from the Internet by

19:21

its web hosting provider. It's

19:23

now called a coon, but we'll get onto

19:25

that in another episode. Will also

19:27

speak about the history of h

19:29

chan and how it became at the way it

19:31

is, But first let's hear from

19:34

Hun's creator, Frederick Brennan.

19:37

I had kind of

19:39

always been involved in the like alternate

19:42

four chan universe. There's all

19:44

these small image boards that don't

19:46

really get any media attention or

19:49

they're not really noticed outside, like very

19:52

kind of people that are into internet culture.

19:55

You know, you have like seven chan, four

19:57

chan, so you get like all

19:59

of these small sites. So, uh,

20:03

I was basically like

20:06

a web developer, and my

20:08

day job was doing just freelance

20:11

web development. And since I was already

20:13

so into image boards, I

20:15

became kind of friends with every image

20:18

board admin. You know, at the time,

20:20

I don't want to toot my own horn, but they knew that

20:22

I was kind of a good programmer.

20:25

Now, despite what I told you

20:27

about h and just before Frederick started

20:29

speaking there, keep in mind

20:31

that Frederick Brennan didn't create

20:34

h h and for pedophiles, and he

20:36

is no longer in control of it. The

20:38

Watkins family took the image board

20:41

over in. Watkins

20:43

will be mentioned a lot throughout this series

20:45

later on, but for now keep that

20:47

name in your head. H and basically

20:50

started after I

20:52

had a mushroom trip and uh,

20:55

I just thought it would be really cool to have like

20:58

this site that was like read it and watching

21:00

and combined. But I

21:03

didn't have any visions in the beginning. I didn't

21:05

think it was ever going to be popular.

21:08

So let's back up a second and ask

21:10

the question you all might be wondering. Why

21:13

the fuck would Q and on a movement

21:15

so determined to tear down a

21:18

political deep state with links to a supposed

21:21

child sex trafficking cabal, except

21:24

that its leader drop his leaked

21:26

info on a website that allows pedos

21:28

to communicate freely with each other. It

21:31

makes no sense. It would be like

21:34

having an environmentalist give

21:36

a speech at a shell oil conference

21:38

or something. But if you ask

21:40

Q and On's they'll tell you that it's all

21:42

simply part of the plan, one

21:45

of their many mantras. And even

21:47

though they wouldn't say this, perhaps the

21:49

plan from the outside at least looks

21:52

simply to be a way for them to achieve

21:55

their political utopia by

21:57

any means necessary. Any failed

21:59

predict chin can be explained away with the

22:01

plan. A clear fake post becomes

22:04

a clever red herring with the plan. When

22:06

Q posted his first ever drop on

22:08

four chan on October seventeen,

22:12

saying Hillary Clinton will be arrested

22:14

between seven forty five am to eight

22:16

thirty a m e s t. On Monday the

22:19

morning on October thirteen,

22:23

and it didn't happen. That was all

22:25

part of the plan. To Hillary was not arrested,

22:28

None of that happened. But to Q and On, it

22:30

doesn't matter. They can explain away

22:32

anything in this sense. As Sarah

22:35

said earlier, Q and On has

22:37

become cult like in some way,

22:40

like most conspiracy theories, and

22:42

arguably with most cults, there

22:44

is a final end game for Q and

22:47

On. It's the so called plan

22:49

that we've mentioned. I asked Travis's

22:51

view about this. I've never really

22:53

seen them explicitly point out what the

22:55

plan is. Now. I know they

22:58

have the idea of getting everybody out and

23:00

trying everybody for treason and hanging them

23:03

um, but that is not a plan.

23:05

That's like a goal, right, I mean, is there

23:07

any indication to what they actually think the plan

23:09

is? No, I no, No. This is

23:11

the funniest part. The plan that they're trusting

23:14

is secret um so

23:17

so, so they don't know what the plan is,

23:19

but there they know they have to trust

23:21

it because they think it's in like I said, they

23:23

think it's in Trump's hands. They think it's

23:25

in military intelligence hands. They

23:27

don't know what the plan is, but they they're very

23:30

convinced that there is a plan and

23:32

it's going to result in, like you

23:34

said, the the executions that they

23:36

want, the the sort of

23:38

return to the world

23:41

that they want to see, I mean love them really

23:43

believe that there's going to be utopia.

23:45

They think there are hidden cures to cancer

23:47

and other diseases that will be revealed. They

23:50

think that this this fake law called

23:52

the SARA is going to get past and make

23:54

everyone rich. Uh. They think you

23:56

know that, you know that all the

23:58

everyone will kind of real eyes that they were

24:01

rail along and all their bluepilled NORMI

24:04

lib friends will come crawling to them and

24:06

saying I was so wrong and I'm so sorry, You're

24:08

so smart. Uh. You know, they

24:11

really think that the world's can be a

24:13

better place. But because of this plan, so

24:15

they trust it even though they don't know where

24:18

it is really. So

24:21

that is Q and on Internet

24:23

image boards, Donald Trump, conspiracy

24:26

theories, and blind faith, all

24:28

meeting under the same umbrella, radicalizing

24:31

each other further and following an anonymous

24:33

leader online. It's potentially quite

24:36

dangerous. Just remember the man in the

24:38

armored vehicle on the Hoover Dam Bridge.

24:42

And the run up to the US election,

24:44

Q and on is being promoted more and more. The

24:47

followers thing they're going to make America

24:49

great again again and have been

24:51

spreading increasingly more erratic conspiracies

24:54

about election night. As a result,

24:56

Facebook has just banned all talk of

24:58

Q and on on its platform after

25:00

allowing it to flourish for years. This

25:02

will likely push Q and on deeper underground,

25:05

perhaps further increasing its radicalization.

25:09

I think it's more important now than ever to

25:11

truly dig up the ground and show who's

25:13

the controller behind the Q and on conspiracy

25:16

theory. In the next episode,

25:18

we're going to look into the theory that Q and on is

25:20

a prank led by a whole group of people

25:23

supposed left wing activists.

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