0:00

Hey everybody , it's Nick . I just wanted to give a

0:02

quick Preface about the episode

0:04

. This is an older episode that we had for

0:07

our patreon a few years ago when

0:09

we kind of we're trying to predict who we

0:12

thought the Fantastic Four would be

0:14

. Obviously , yesterday we got

0:16

information about who was actually

0:18

casted in marvel's Fantastic Four

0:20

coming out next year in 2025

0:22

, but we just thought this would be something fun to

0:24

share for those of you that are interested , just to

0:26

kind of see if we got it right or we got close

0:28

or not . So we hope you enjoy . It's

0:38

Crabletime . Doom

0:48

hates us all . The answer personal score

0:50

to settle with me . You have

0:54

now arrived in your desired time .

0:57

Welcome to another episode of quantum dreamcast

0:59

. So if you're listening to this , that means , um

1:01

, you're a patron here . Uh , you're on the other side

1:03

of that , that great paywall that we're really appreciative

1:06

of , because that just means you're really helping us grow this

1:08

podcast and find new listeners and just enabling

1:10

us to keep doing this , because this is just a lot of

1:12

our time in our own money and it's just great to get

1:14

a little help . And so if you're listening this , we're

1:16

completely thankful that you're here . So

1:19

what we're gonna do ? here is uh , when we do

1:21

dreamcast , we're just gonna take something

1:24

in which all the Hollywood scuttlebutt

1:26

is just really interested about who's playing who

1:28

for a property . And so for this inaugural

1:30

episode of dreamcast , we want to do the

1:32

fantastic four movie that's supposed

1:35

to come out at some point by disney , right ?

1:37

the fantastic four in 2024 kory

1:39

.

1:40

Oh okay , wow Dang , that's good , that's

1:42

just good marketing .

1:43

It's good . Marketing is what that is . It's smart , it's

1:45

smart .

1:46

Yeah , yeah , it would look like idiots if they put out 2023

1:49

. Right , yeah , it's supposed to kick

1:51

off .

1:51

It's supposed to kick off the Phase six

1:53

of the marvel movies , which

1:56

will be like lead out to the , to

1:58

the next set of avengers movies . Yes , we

2:00

are ending phase four right now . We're

2:02

about to start phase five next year , after

2:04

uh , wakanda forever , and

2:07

then somehow we'll get to phase six at 2024

2:10

.

2:10

Can I be honest After in-game

2:12

I've kind of like not necessarily found my footing

2:15

in the ncu sense .

2:16

I don't think marvel's found its footing .

2:18

Okay , so so phase four has mostly

2:20

been the disney plus series

2:22

. Yeah , sandwiched between these movies

2:25

, yeah , it's not really it's

2:27

.

2:27

It's it's where everything's not really connected

2:29

. People are going on their own adventures , we're introducing new

2:31

characters , it's . It's kind of like phase

2:33

one , where it's like here's all these heroes and

2:36

then we're going to start connecting them , maybe

2:38

in phase five , I guess , or something .

2:39

So so just just an illusion . It's

2:42

mickey mouse during the first few phases up

2:44

to in-game was on a unicycle juggling

2:46

comfortably , and now we keep tossing them

2:48

superheroes and he's like okay , guys , this is getting stupid

2:50

.

2:53

Have you got ? So many superheroes in

2:56

that bad man .

2:56

He's dropped captain america . He's possibly

2:58

dropped Thor at this point .

2:59

Mickey , we just bought the x-men .

3:02

So okay , well , I mean

3:04

so and that's the thing . Right now there's all this

3:06

talk around it . I mean there's even now like I've read

3:08

that and again it's all rumor , and that's why this is

3:10

fun to just kind of dive into . That's because we don't have any

3:13

definitive information , so something we can really fantasy

3:15

pass . But I've heard that dr Doe might

3:17

be the Villain in Wakanda forever

3:19

, like you know , like one of the villains .

3:21

Yeah , that might be the eye .

3:23

You know , like uh , two , eventually

3:25

, the four being uh revealed or

3:28

, you know , at least having a purpose . So we're

3:30

just gonna take the top , mainly

3:32

the five characters associated with

3:34

the fantastic four , which is obviously the

3:36

fantastic one , two , three , four , and then

3:38

their most famous villain , dr Victor

3:41

von Doe , which

3:43

I have not real familiar with

3:45

the comic books . Is he actually a doctor

3:47

or did it just sound cool

3:49

? I thought he was like a ruler

3:51

of some kingdom .

3:52

I don't know where the medical Advanced degree

3:54

that comes in so the , so the half-assed research

3:56

that I did and just general knowledge I have over

3:58

the years of people just shoving hey

4:01

, this marvel thing might be leading to this and galactus and dr

4:03

Doom and yada , but he , yeah , he's

4:05

the leader of Latvia , is it Latvia

4:07

? Is that correct ? Am I just making ?

4:09

it sound right . Yeah , Latvia

4:11

Right .

4:12

I was like . I was like Latvia is real . Yeah , latveria

4:14

, we'll say that , okay .

4:16

Yeah , so he's just a doctor , like Reed Richards is

4:18

a doctor , like they were just buddies once and

4:20

now they're he's a . Okay , so let me just

4:22

paint the picture .

4:23

He's an extra D .

4:25

Yeah , he's super smart he's , he's his

4:27

, his , his , uh . Rivalry with

4:29

Reed Richards , mr Fantastic , is all based around

4:31

. They're intellect and , like them

4:34

, trying to outmaneuver one another . He's jealous

4:36

of Reed Richards because he's always kind

4:38

of one-upping him a little bit , yeah , but he's

4:40

also just kind of this , like he's

4:42

almost like a Batman if Batman had gone

4:44

rogue and also learned magic and all this stuff

4:47

. Because he's like seen as like this perfect human being , like

4:49

he's very vain and so like the reason

4:51

he has the mask , because he has a scar . He's a scarred

4:53

face and they allude to that

4:55

. It might even just be like a small scar

4:57

and it's , but he's just so vain that he's like , nope , no

4:59

one's gonna see my face . He's the ruler of

5:01

his country and he's loyal to them . He's trying to help make

5:03

lift it up but at the same time has his own

5:05

like personal vendetta against Reed Richards

5:07

and his own goals and stuff .

5:09

So it's just like triple H right

5:11

now . Okay yeah yeah

5:14

, bear , all right , that's all you have to say . Nick was

5:16

, he's like triple H .

5:17

He's triple H , you see . Okay , I will use wrestling metaphors

5:19

from now on , I'll see

5:21

.

5:21

All right . So the way we're going to do this is we're just going

5:23

to take each of these one by one . We'll

5:25

just kind of pitch you we all think would be the best

5:27

suited person . It's not going to be like a traditional episode

5:30

of Quantum Recast . We're not going to try to like definitively

5:32

like find one Maybe . Maybe we'll see how things

5:34

pair up as actors come out and see where

5:36

we land . But before we each give our

5:38

casting , I'll probably give a little bit of a who's

5:41

. What are the names surrounding

5:43

? Whether they're actual , real rumors or what

5:45

people want .

5:46

Yeah .

5:46

So let's start with Reed Richards , aka

5:49

Mr Fantastic . A

5:51

lot of the names surrounding this is obvious , so we've already seen

5:53

John Krasinski wearing the suit in

5:56

spoiler . Sam Raimi's a

5:59

multiverse of madness , I feel like 2022

6:01

rules is . If it's streaming , you should have seen it by now . It's

6:04

just spoilers .

6:05

That's fair , that's fair .

6:06

And that was more of Raimi , almost like riffing

6:09

on fan casting , I think to

6:11

tease it .

6:12

Yeah , I think yeah pretty much I

6:14

even came out was just like yeah , the fans wanted it , so we

6:16

just gave it to him and you're like OK 10 seconds

6:18

, and then we took it from them and laugh .

6:20

And so I did a pin

6:23

badge Lee , who's famously on the Netflix show you

6:25

right now playing a serial killer . And then , obviously , one

6:27

of our beloved actors , john Cho

6:29

, is up for the role , even though I believe

6:31

.

6:31

I didn't know John was up for it . That's kind of exciting .

6:34

It's like it's a name that's floating around

6:36

, though I think he's famous anti superhero

6:38

movie . I think he calls it indentured servitude

6:40

, like to be tied to movies .

6:43

Yeah , yeah , yeah yeah .

6:45

All right . So , Tanner , let's start with you

6:47

. Who do you see playing

6:49

?

6:49

Mr Fantastic . So it's

6:52

interesting because he's obviously supposed

6:54

to be , you know , a super smart professor , but

6:56

also he's the oldest one out of the group . I

6:58

think like him and Ben Grimes are kind of like old

7:00

buddies .

7:02

Yeah , him and Ben Grimes went to college together .

7:03

Yeah back in the days . So , like that's

7:05

, I'm trying to play someone that's a little bit older

7:08

than like my other cast . So , like the

7:10

person that I really thought of was , visually

7:12

, I thought Adam Brody was really cool . I thought

7:14

like Adam . Brody was interesting like

7:17

interesting read Richard's like him

7:19

, or who

7:21

is this other ? Oh , Misha Collins was also one that

7:23

I really liked . It's from Supernatural

7:26

.

7:26

Did you say Adrian Brody or Adam Brody

7:28

? Adam Brody , you

7:30

said Adam Brody . So

7:33

, like the guy from the OC . Yeah

7:35

, wow I thought you said I was like picture an Adrian

7:37

Brody the whole time and I was going to tell you I generally hate Adrian Brody

7:39

but then

7:41

when he , when he showed up on succession , I kind of became a fan . Adam

7:43

Brody , that's actually pretty inspired . Like

7:46

10 years ago he would have been

7:48

.

7:48

Johnny Storm yeah , but like I don't know , right Wow . I

7:53

think that's also the difficult thing for me is to

7:55

me read Richard's is just like a

7:58

more succinct cling cut Johnny Storm . So

8:00

it's difficult for me to like pick

8:02

someone that couldn't play both at one point or another .

8:05

What I read about re Richard was that his , his , his personality description was

8:07

that he's intelligent , calm and detached . So

8:11

it's it's almost like he's so smart that he

8:13

has some social Issues

8:16

. It's almost like a Zuckerberg kind of situation where , like he still he cares very deeply

8:18

for his team and his wife and brother

8:20

in law and all them , but

8:22

like sometimes his love and just deep diving into science

8:24

and stuff , he just gets

8:26

so zeroed in a tunnel vision about it that Right , and it's and it's . And he's

8:28

also a big picture thinker . So that's why , like , he shows

8:30

up on groups like the Illuminati , because he's thinking

8:34

, ok , yeah , we have to kill every Doctor Strange so that

8:36

all the universes don't get destroyed , even though it's like you killed every

8:38

Doctor Strange in the universes . You

8:40

know Right Well , nick , who do you have

8:42

?

8:42

You know , I didn't know John Cho was up for it again .

8:45

I was sitting there thinking anybody in their fifties might be too old

8:47

. Some names that came up in my head yeah , speaking of

8:49

John Cho , though , another name that came up for me was

8:51

Steve

8:53

Steven Yoon , because he's 41 . And

8:56

I feel like he can kind of play that intelligence

8:59

, but also like a little bit

9:02

of the detachment and calm and just a little , a little

9:04

eccentric in ways . Him

9:06

and Riz Ahmed from

9:09

from Rogue One and Sound

9:12

of Metal . Yeah , sound of Metal , that's what I was

9:14

thinking , yeah . Like I was thinking a little

9:16

bit of his character from Rogue One , where he's just kind of he's kind of all over

9:18

the place and he's scatterbrained a bit , but like you

9:20

just replace that with science jargon , he's

9:22

like , yeah , and you're like great read , read , focus , focus . But

9:27

the person I'm going to stick with at this in

9:29

this moment for my pick is I'm just going to go . I'm

9:31

going to go Steven Yoon , I'm going to pick him

9:33

. Yeah , that's mine .

9:35

Ok , all right , I just just for the sake of being the fun guy on

9:37

the podcast I wrote

9:39

down and because I would love to see it , because it's against

9:41

type , but I think when he gets his powers

9:43

it's going to be a lot of fun . I

9:48

want Matthew McConaughey to play an intellectual scientist who gets . I think it's

9:50

going to be super fun . Whatever

9:54

his arm stretches , he's going to be like whoa .

9:57

I mean , he's played intelligent individuals before .

10:00

He's interstellar , obviously yeah interstellar

10:02

.

10:03

I mean even Rusty Cole from True Detective

10:05

.

10:06

Yeah , he's smart and that also has . That has

10:08

a lot of aspects of like not knowing

10:10

how to act as a human , like publicly

10:13

like .

10:14

And that's a big name . So if they're , if they're wanting

10:16

to be like , hey , here's a guy that

10:18

we can trust . He's been in big movies . He's

10:21

been in . He's an Academy Award winner . We

10:23

know he's going to . He's going to deliver , at least be charismatic

10:25

to an extent .

10:27

Yeah for sure , all right , like moving on . Ok

10:29

, sue Storm . Invisible Woman

10:31

the popular rumors and stuff going

10:33

around , that is obviously Mrs Krasinski

10:35

, emily Blunt , and I've seen Jodie

10:38

Comer's name now pop up and she's

10:40

from .

10:40

Killing .

10:40

Eve .

10:42

Yeah , coming up on the that big D23

10:44

weekend , they were really it was like oh , she's definitely

10:46

, they're talking with her , they're in talks and nothing

10:48

happened .

10:49

So yeah , I

10:51

think my , my person , I I

10:53

really thought on a day armist would be fun here . I

10:56

thought like she would make a really fun to

10:58

storm .

11:00

I'm just gonna go and say Tanner Tanner picked mine

11:02

that I'm also very sold on on . A day arm

11:04

is super .

11:05

Yeah , she's , I mean it makes sense because Blond's

11:07

about to come out . It's she's getting a lot of buzz for

11:09

like Oscar stuff a little bit . I

11:12

mean she and she's also she's a sex

11:14

icon . I mean that's just what she is right

11:16

now , but she's , she's been in a lot of successful

11:18

movies , so she's a bankable star . She's very like

11:21

, has a strong personality .

11:23

The only other such a presence on screen .

11:25

Yeah , and I thought she did incredible . It's just yeah

11:27

, yeah , performance , that's just amazing .

11:30

Yeah , yeah , the person . So the

11:32

person that made my shortlist . I

11:36

thought of Vanessa Kirby . She's

11:38

been in a couple of the other mission impossible

11:40

movies but she was recently in a movie where she got

11:42

nominated for with

11:44

the one with Shia LaBeouf when

11:47

she was called . She's been in the crown as well

11:49

. People will probably know her from that . But she

11:51

was in a movie called pieces of a woman , where

11:53

Oscar nomination . But she , you know , she's

11:55

the blonde hair , the blue light eyes , she's got

11:57

the look , but she also has a presence to her and I , you know

11:59

, sue Storm is described . If

12:02

Ben Groom is kind of the heart of the team , she's like the soul

12:04

of it and kind of keeps everybody together a lot of the time

12:06

, like like in a , in a more

12:08

like motherly fashion . But yeah , she's

12:10

warm and caring and responsible , but she also

12:13

, okay , a very powerful individual

12:15

.

12:16

I know her from Hobbs and Shaw she

12:18

plays .

12:19

Yes , yeah , one of their sisters . Yeah , she did really good .

12:21

Yes , she has a very piercing look .

12:24

Just leave pictures of her .

12:25

I feel like she's just staring into my soul .

12:27

Right , yeah , like I feel like when you get into those , whether

12:30

it's a dramatic scene or whether it's like a big action

12:32

scene , like she's gonna deliver that and yeah for sure

12:34

, for sure .

12:35

Yeah , all right , which means we have to go to her younger brother

12:37

, johnny Storm . The

12:39

human torch , already famously played by

12:41

Captain America for sevens , for

12:43

some reason does pop up on people's lists . I

12:45

don't know if that's a multiverse thing or just

12:48

.

12:48

Captain America or what , but he

12:51

just played it so well . I think

12:53

it's like so good that like people have

12:55

trouble Finding

12:57

someone else .

12:58

The only names I can realistically find is that

13:00

Joe Keery , and I know I don't know anything about

13:03

him other than stranger things . Yeah , I would be more aware

13:05

of him Is the only name I ever see rumored and

13:07

then obviously super fun . And then

13:09

Zach Efron is like I think the fan

13:11

thing . People are like it's the Krasinski .

13:13

Oh , interesting for yeah , Efron .

13:15

So and those are like two names

13:17

are really even sort of fine attached to that one .

13:20

I mean , I really I didn't even think about Joe Keery , but

13:22

I love that idea . He's . He's

13:25

so fun , just like on

13:27

screen . He's so fun .

13:28

Mm-hmm , it would be he . When he did that pizza

13:31

hut commercial where he's basically acting like Ferris Bueller

13:33

, you're kind of like , yeah , this dude

13:35

could , could do it , like it would work . But

13:38

yeah , he's , I mean he's , he's got the big franchise . Now

13:40

that's coming to an end probably at that point . So he'll

13:42

, he'll be a big name , and this it was would be

13:45

his big jump to like movies too . So it's another chance

13:47

to go . Here's somebody you like . Here's their shot

13:49

to be bigger .

13:51

They haven't done anything other than yeah

13:53

, and it shed the whole stranger things not

13:55

casting thing .

13:56

Yeah , sure , did you guys have anybody

13:58

else ?

13:59

I . I actually came up with two names , kind

14:02

of the same thing , not nearly as popular as stranger

14:04

things , but I honestly thought Zolo

14:07

uh Maraduania , who is currently on

14:09

Cobra Kai , he's the lead . Oh

14:12

, so little yeah , yeah on

14:14

, yeah , sholo Maraduania

14:17

, and so he does

14:19

really good . He at the same time can play that , I

14:21

think , really cocky . He's

14:23

more of the face of Cobra Kai than the heel

14:25

, but yeah , it's kind of like every season if

14:27

it's like you know . But

14:30

I honestly also thought Human

14:32

torch , that's a role kind

14:34

of worth gender swapping

14:37

, because someone

14:39

like with long hair , a girl with long hair , like the

14:41

CGI of the fire and stuff , that's just going to even look

14:43

better .

14:44

You know that's true . That would be fun

14:46

I kind of thought .

14:47

Isabella Gomez , who she's from a sitcom

14:49

called One Day . At a Time that just kind of went off there , and now she's

14:51

on an HBO Max show called Head of the Class

14:54

. She's oh yeah . She's

14:56

very charismatic as well and I thought

14:58

that would be a lot of fun . She's like high energy

15:00

, like .

15:01

Yeah , that could be a lot of fun .

15:03

So , like I just you know , and Chris Evans obviously

15:05

was a very high energy betrayal of

15:07

it , and so she would be a good If you

15:09

wanted to genderbend it . I think that'd be a lot of fun .

15:12

Is that your pick ? Yeah , I mean either one

15:14

of those .

15:14

I think would be a lot of fun yeah you know

15:16

, but yeah .

15:17

OK like the only . The only other name that I had

15:19

come up was , like

15:23

it's really difficult to find someone that's not already

15:25

a superhero in some way , or another yes .

15:27

Going through the list , you're like , ok , you're like

15:29

Marvel Iron man , and you're like dammit

15:31

the guy that .

15:33

I thought would be really fun is he's

15:36

like an X-man in other things . But

15:38

yeah , lucas Till , I thought would

15:40

be a very fun . Johnny

15:43

Storm , he was in like MacGyver , he was Havoc

15:46

in like X-men , first class .

15:48

The apocalypse . Oh , ok

15:51

, yeah .

15:51

Yeah , he did like the MacGyver series and stuff

15:54

like that . He's very fun . He can play

15:56

kind of like that , like like

15:59

smirking , like kind of dickish , like

16:01

playboy guy . I think that's very fun .

16:03

I'm glad you brought it out , though , because it is that thing where , like

16:07

, when you're going through this , even people that had been in the pre-MCU X-men

16:09

like in like movies . I don't know if they're still tied to that . No , I don't know

16:11

. These guys

16:14

are getting . You should , like everyone's played a superhero . I almost

16:16

made a list of people who , like are against superhero

16:18

movies . I almost made Leo

16:20

like yeah , yeah , yeah and Timothy . Chalamet , johnny

16:22

Storms , like you guys have to do this .

16:24

Yeah , it's like at that point , like because you

16:26

know , like because , yeah , now it's if

16:29

you haven't taken a firm stance on it to say like no

16:31

, I'm not doing it , you've done it you

16:33

know what I mean ? Yeah , because like

16:35

Adam Brody is like

16:38

a superhero in what is it ? The

16:40

Shazam . He's like one of the Shazams .

16:42

Yeah , yes , but that's DC and that's OK . Like

16:44

you can play in DC , you can .

16:45

Yeah , you can jump around . I

16:47

got one name for you . I got one name for you and I think and

16:50

I feel pretty , pretty good about it is

16:53

Glenn Powell . If you know his , you may not

16:55

know the name , he's fine . Yeah

16:57

, he's , basically he's in the new Top Gun movie

16:59

that came out this year and he's basically the ice man

17:01

of this movie yeah , he's really cocky pilot

17:03

. I and I was rewatching clips today and I was

17:05

just like this dude would just knock it

17:08

out of the park . I feel like he especially if , like

17:10

our , if our people are , if

17:12

invisible women's in her 30 , late 30s or

17:14

40s and fantastics in his 40s Like , yeah

17:17

, he can play the young cocky dude

17:19

.

17:19

Sure , no , that's a really good one .

17:21

If someone is really solid .

17:22

If someone had told me I was older than Glenn Powell

17:24

today , I would have said no way .

17:27

Right , yeah , I was like he's 33 . What

17:30

, I guess , at least ?

17:31

40 . Yeah , he really

17:33

plays that Especially . He's just top gun , he

17:35

comes across .

17:35

Yeah , he has that Chris Evans energy

17:38

about him .

17:38

Yeah , he's pretty fun .

17:40

Yeah , that's a really good one .

17:42

Ok , all right . So now we got to go to the

17:44

heart of Fantastic Four

17:46

, ben Grimm . The thing this

17:48

one's again I think it's got the weirdest

17:50

casting rumors kind of researching around it . I

17:53

mean there's obviously people are throwing John Cena out

17:55

at out because he's obviously doing well , yeah

17:57

, he's maker and his chops are coming out again , he's

17:59

huge so right . And

18:02

he's just . He was the face like the

18:04

make a wish kid foundation for years . So

18:07

, yeah , kind of fits that . And

18:09

then , obviously , like Seth Rogen and

18:11

Jason Segal , keep getting tossed around and

18:13

you're just like , please , oh no . Seth

18:16

Rogen for a minute was like almost confirmed

18:18

.

18:19

It was like part of that D23 thing , like

18:21

they were like yeah , this is the thing , and you're

18:23

like super glad that D23 went silent

18:25

.

18:25

You're like , ok , someone said let's hold up

18:27

. You know that's wild .

18:29

The most . I think the most important part

18:31

is not the most important , but I think one that jokingly

18:34

most important thing when I was sitting there thinking of casting was

18:36

like who can deliver its clobbering

18:38

time without me cringing and

18:40

just going like , yeah , ok , that works .

18:42

This was . I didn't even think twice about this one

18:44

, like I was like there's really only one person right now that

18:46

I can see doing this . Ok , but

18:48

who did you have , nick ?

18:50

I picked so so so

18:52

I was trying to think , ok , maybe character actor and

18:55

we don't have to play on him being like a hulking

18:57

person in human form or like a tough New Yorker guy . But that's kind of

18:59

who he is . He grew up in New York , he was , he lost his

19:01

parents , lived with his uncle , became a football player star

19:03

. That's how he gets in

19:06

college and meets Read . But you could

19:08

change that , obviously , but I

19:10

was trying to stick a little true to the comic . I

19:13

ended up with Brian Tyree Henry from

19:15

Atlanta and Bullet Train .

19:17

I think that he .

19:18

I think that he could play that line between

19:20

fun and and serious and and

19:23

just really and really . Just Nailed

19:25

that role , I think yeah , who did

19:27

you say you ? Cut out Brian

19:29

Tyree , henry , he's in Atlanta . He's paperboy

19:32

in Atlanta .

19:33

Okay , train

19:35

now . Yeah , he'd be , good

19:37

.

19:38

Yeah , um , tanner , what'd you say ? You said , you had one

19:40

name that you did .

19:41

I live I . I just thought about it and I was like , if

19:44

it's not Dave Bautista , I don't know

19:46

what's happening .

19:47

He's like that he's dry . That's

19:49

the problem , Obviously he's dressed .

19:50

But that's the problem is like he's the best , he

19:52

is the best choice . Like David

19:54

, he's , that is the perfect choice

19:56

.

19:58

It's , it's the same problem . It's like John Cena would be great

20:00

, but it's like , okay , but he's this

20:02

other superhero , david .

20:04

He's literally this other . Yeah , yeah , but

20:06

see , isn't he see ? So he could get away with it .

20:08

But I still think that they might .

20:09

That might come into consideration like

20:11

I'm sure there's some type of contractual obligation

20:13

.

20:13

Yeah , I probably wrote it in there like and

20:15

you can't , you can't do , you can't do a Marvel

20:17

thing now right , but it's also a TV

20:20

show and it's a minor character , but it just became

20:22

popular .

20:23

Whatever scene is like , I'm from wrestling . I know that these no

20:25

compete clauses and contracts are not cannot

20:27

hold up in court , so yeah just bullshit

20:30

whatever . Okay , so I

20:32

brought up I think it's yaya

20:34

Abdul Mateen three , yeah , the third

20:36

because yeah . Mm-hmm , what I think

20:38

. I think what actually , like Ben

20:41

Grimm , the thing needs . I think it actually needs one

20:43

of those actors that's too good for a superhero

20:45

movie because he has to be all hard . It actually

20:47

needs one of these actors that's just like purely

20:50

thespian and I know that he played like black black

20:52

man or whatever in the man or whatever

20:54

, but I dude anytime I watch a

20:56

movie with him , like ambulance or Candyman . It's like that this

20:58

dude's chops are huge and you just feel for this

21:00

, yeah .

21:02

Everything he's in is good and and you keep wanting

21:04

, you keep thinking that that movie is gonna be the thing that really

21:06

, like shoots him off , like whether it's the Matrix movie where

21:08

it plays the new version of Morpheus , sandman

21:11

or not , same in a we just said it , you

21:13

just said it . Candyman , like it just seems

21:15

like he . Or watch men when he plays dr Manhattan

21:17

. You're like , yeah , this is gonna be the thing and then , like he doesn't

21:19

quite take off .

21:20

So yeah , yeah , this could be . Just it could be it . It's just

21:22

so interesting to watch him because , like he just keeps moving

21:25

laterally .

21:26

Yeah , yes , exactly , that's the word . Yeah

21:28

, never really .

21:30

Yeah , it's fascinating to watch , but well

21:32

, I think that's a really good idea .

21:34

It's , I don't know . There seems to be like you

21:36

know , it's a weird conversation for another time that I think we

21:38

can think about , but I just seems to be like this

21:40

class of black actors right now that are all

21:42

moving laterally for whatever reason they're not hitting

21:45

with , like like who's our next , will

21:47

Smith , you know who's our next ? Like guy that's gonna break

21:49

through this barrier , like Keith Stamfield's

21:51

moving laterally , leslie Odom Jr's moving

21:53

laterally . It's like you're like . You're like dude , these are heavy

21:56

players , these are dudes that should be like the

21:58

future of all this and it's . But then again , that

22:00

just may be like they're like more interested in these roles

22:02

at the same time .

22:04

Yeah , yeah , that's true .

22:05

Um a lot of people do you want to avoid these

22:07

franchises , so I get it . No

22:11

one's gonna say see him punk , so we're just moving on

22:13

.

22:13

No .

22:15

I'm just saying Nick brought up its clobbering time

22:18

. He says it every night . So I'm just , you know whatever . Okay

22:20

, the impunks a lot of trouble .

22:21

So I think when he comes out . Yeah , he says that

22:23

he checks his watch and then stands as a clobbering

22:26

time every time he comes out .

22:27

So , yeah , all right . That brings us to our

22:29

final Casting

22:32

, which is usually the most interesting part of a superhero

22:34

movie . Is your villain ? So we have our doctor

22:36

, victor Bondo . There's

22:40

again . The main Casting

22:42

was around . This is anything from the very like

22:44

push-aid Esposito , who

22:46

just plays , please , please , yeah . It's

22:48

like , bro , you got a new mark , he's the new Mark

22:50

Strong .

22:51

It's just like we need a villain Mark Strong

22:53

is around as Sposito's here . He's like God , yeah

22:56

, he's . He's also rumored for professor X

22:58

and I kind of hope he gets that just so he doesn't

23:00

do villains .

23:00

That would be good . That'd be good , I would like to see

23:02

him as professor X oh yeah , 100% yeah

23:04

and then the big three are John Hamm , adam driver

23:07

and Henry Cavill have all had their name

23:09

tossed around , and Adam

23:12

driver is great , but it's like it's

23:14

Kylo Ren , it's we've done it , so

23:16

yeah .

23:18

So no one's put Brendan Fraser on a list , then I

23:20

.

23:21

Did not know , but no , that's , it's , no

23:24

, but that's , it's , that's possible .

23:26

I would love that .

23:27

I would do . Maybe didn't get him

23:29

in the Batgirl movie . So true

23:31

, yeah , give me something .

23:33

Yeah , I say safe here . I stay safe

23:35

here with the Cavill just because , after

23:38

reading about Dr Doom and kind

23:40

of his backstory and about him being this kind of perfectionist

23:42

and like this he's basically like evil

23:45

Batman to an extent where he's like he's a

23:47

physical form , super intelligent I was just

23:49

like I was like Cavill can

23:51

kind of do that and he's got a bit and he's got a large

23:53

presence literally to himself

23:55

and also a deeper voice that you get

23:57

a lot of in like the Witcher . So like him

23:59

, monologue and stuff's gonna work really well . I

24:02

think the biggest thing is like the mask . He's

24:04

gonna have to wear the mask or like they're gonna have to work around that

24:06

somehow .

24:08

Yeah , yeah , I mean yeah , they

24:11

do it pretty well in Marvel though , right , because

24:13

like Chris Pratt that

24:15

character , you know , he does have a mask

24:18

and like he uses it all the time , but

24:20

they do pretty well about not

24:22

having it on him for very long .

24:23

I think it's just different here because it's tied

24:25

to like a bit of his character

24:27

, in the sense of like he wears the mask because he

24:29

has a scarred face and he won't

24:31

let his face be seen because he's vain .

24:34

And that's the thing which I mean . Like again

24:36

, marvel's been very creative in getting around the

24:39

comic book lore and making things interesting . I know

24:41

that like certain aspects of

24:43

Dr Doomer , certain iterations of him , like the mask

24:45

is actually fused to his face , like you put it on while

24:47

it's time and let it fuse or something . But

24:49

like I honestly think Marvel might

24:51

go the OG fantastic war

24:53

route , like where the guy from Nip Tuck played

24:55

him , where he's actually almost CEO

24:58

type of villain

25:00

, Dr Von Doom . It wouldn't shock me

25:02

if they went that route . They seem to like that route a lot and

25:05

that also allows an actor to be an actor , rather

25:07

than they covered so much stuff .

25:09

Yeah , behind the mask .

25:11

I still haven't watched Nope , but

25:13

you guys really said , michael Winkott did really good

25:15

.

25:17

That's incredible . Michael Winkott would be fucking

25:19

awesome .

25:19

The voice . His voice is amazing

25:22

and he does . He's just my favorite part of the crow

25:24

. He's like one of my favorite villains because of the crow

25:26

and I just I don't know , I'm like Michael

25:30

Winkott might be my Dr Doom how

25:32

old is he , though he's old . But

25:34

again , he's mostly gonna be , you know , but

25:37

I don't know .

25:37

And again , Marvel's gonna rewrite the comics

25:40

as they see fit , so like you could

25:42

easily make him a little bit older and you could

25:44

have him even . Even

25:46

if you went older , marvel could easily write it to be like

25:48

Reed Richards took over like

25:50

the smartest guy in the universe like

25:52

from him you know like , and that's why he's pissed

25:55

at him .

25:55

I think the only the other two names that are interesting

25:58

is just mainly Joel Edgerton , because he's one of the

26:00

big names that hasn't stepped into MCU . I

26:02

don't know if this would be right , but I think

26:04

Silly and Murphy or whatever . I

26:06

don't know how he's going to come out in Oppenheimer , but if

26:08

he does incredible in Oppenheimer it might

26:10

just lead this path to being Dr

26:13

Doom , to being I think he would be super fun too

26:15

.

26:15

I think that's a really good .

26:16

Essentially does something horrific . So I

26:18

mean , I don't know that , Tanner , did you

26:20

give us one ?

26:21

No , I didn't . I didn't really find anyone that like I

26:23

was super locked on to . I thought like I

26:26

thought like Edward Norton would be fun , but

26:30

like I don't know , and then

26:32

like I had a very fun moment where I was like I

26:35

know he does a lot of comedy , but Andre Brower

26:37

would be really fun like

26:40

the police chief from Brooklyn

26:42

Nine-Nine .

26:44

Oh yeah .

26:44

Yeah .

26:44

He's got a good voice .

26:46

Oh , that's not bad , that's not

26:48

bad .

26:49

He does a lot of comedy , so I don't know how he would do in like

26:51

action-y stuff , like

26:54

at least I haven't seen a lot of action-y stuff from

26:56

him . But I think he would

26:58

be really fun . Like he's got a good voice , he's got

27:00

a good presence . Even in Brooklyn Nine-Nine

27:02

he's got a heavy presence .

27:04

So the other names I've heard of that have been brought

27:06

up are for some reason , denzel

27:08

Washington keeps getting brought up , which I don't know

27:10

. Damn that's

27:12

wild , I don't know if that might just be Internet

27:14

rumors .

27:15

Yeah , that just sounds like something we would think of on our show .

27:18

Yeah , but they've also brought

27:20

up Javier Bardem and he's actually been rumored

27:22

, because there was something I was reading about

27:25

how they're trying to change Latveria

27:27

to being a Mediterranean country

27:29

, like a coastal country , and the

27:32

rumor is like oh , Dr Doom in that country is

27:34

tied to Namor

27:36

and the Atlantis world

27:39

and Mayan world and stuff like that .

27:42

So , javier Bardem , I would also be really fun here .

27:44

That would be good , okay , and

27:46

just to wrap up , I'll say it Nicholas

27:49

Cage , is it time for him to come into

27:51

?

27:51

the MCU and play around with everyone .

27:52

Oh my God , yeah , and would an ego maniacal

27:55

vein like the .

27:57

That'd be super , super fun . It would just

27:59

be insane . There's no way to help , but

28:01

it'd be really fun .

28:02

Oh my gosh , it would be fun .

28:04

All right , so I'll say it Do you guys want to ? Do

28:07

you guys want to like ? Just give each

28:09

of our like actual list .

28:10

To wrap it up , so

28:14

I mean sure I can do that . I'll start

28:16

Like my list is Matthew

28:18

McConaughey as Reed Richards and a DeAr

28:20

Misses Sue Storm . I'll

28:22

even just go with the gender bin here and put Isabella Gomez

28:25

as Human Torch , and

28:27

then Yaya Abdul-Mateen

28:30

, the third , as Ben Grim the Thing . And

28:32

then I think that I'll

28:34

just go ahead and say if Disney's giving me the

28:37

call and giving me the money and let me pick , dude

28:39

, it's Denzel Washington , the

28:42

second , you said it . I'm walking in Like

28:44

yeah , okay , if I

28:46

wanted to have a gravitas and he's my like phase

28:48

six villain , it's Denzel

28:50

. If it's maybe not that

28:52

level , then I'll just be fun and say Nick

28:54

Cage , like let him in the

28:56

sandbox and

28:58

just go wild , like you know that'd

29:01

be my list .

29:03

Okay , yeah , I think I'm going to stick

29:05

with Steve Yuen for Reed Richards , and

29:08

then Vanessa Kirby for Sue Storm , glenn

29:10

Powell for Johnny Storm , brian Tyree

29:12

Henry for Ben Grim , and I'm just going to play it safe

29:14

with Henry Cavill as Dr Doom .

29:18

Okay , I have to remember who all I said .

29:21

So you got to write this down , because when this gets , like

29:24

I had .

29:25

I had the tabs open and then , as we said , I

29:27

might closed out the tabs and then I'm like , fuck , okay

29:29

, fuck , where are my tabs ? Um

29:31

, let's see Reed Richards

29:34

. I had

29:36

Adam Brody , yeah .

29:39

We both had Anna Day Armist I had Anna Day Armist

29:41

for Johnny

29:44

Storm .

29:44

I had Till Lucas

29:47

Till . So that's right , my Johnny

29:50

Storm is Lucas Till , my

29:52

Ben Grim is Dave

29:55

Bootsy stuff , and then my Dr

29:57

Doom is Andre Brower .

30:00

Okay , yeah , yeah , I like it , I like it . So

30:02

I think the fun thing to do is when they eventually release

30:05

this . We'll just see if any of us got any of this right

30:07

.

30:07

I'm the the long shot . Oh

30:10

yeah , you , I think , out of all these on the long shot

30:12

.

30:13

I think Nick's the safest . You're the long shot . I'm

30:15

somewhere in the middle Like I might get one of

30:17

these . I definitely don't think Matthew McConaughey is going to

30:19

get Reed Richards . I love it though it

30:21

would be amazing .

30:23

So you have you have Matthew McConaughey and Nicholas Cage

30:25

potentially going at each other .

30:27

I like that , that is butts in seats

30:30

, just so you know

30:32

so . But okay , well , that's

30:34

our first episode of , you know , quantum

30:36

Dreamcast , so we'll see how it

30:39

goes Again . If you're listening to this

30:41

, it means you're financially supporting this podcast

30:43

. We're very , very thankful for that . It really helps us to

30:45

grow and it just helps us individually

30:47

and just time and effort it takes to do all

30:49

this , and so thank you very much

30:51

. We hope you enjoyed it . We will see you on the next bonus

30:53

episode .

30:55

And watch out for our

30:57

vote . We'll

30:59

put out a vote to see how you guys thought about these casts

31:01

and who made the best one .

31:02

The answer is me , you

31:32

.