Comedian and podcast Sara Schaefer joins to talk about one of the most exacting, impressive activities yet: making miniatures. Sara talks about how miniatures changed her view on stand-up, how to find miniature-lovers on Facebook, and how creating a full, to-scale miniature comedy club was a personal revelation. David and James try to decide if the miniatures in Heredity were scary enough to knock this down, or if can compete as one of the greatest quarantine activities.

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