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Hi, my name is K
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Mataōtama Strohl my pronouns are
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they them. And this week, I
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wanted to talk about why
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accurate representation is
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important.
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I have an article on Medium
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titled Moana is trash, and it's
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getting a lot of traction. I
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received a lot of positive
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feedback to it. But I also
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received a lot of questions and
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comments. The comment that led me to this
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episode today was by a person
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named Richard twist. And they
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said, I thought that this was a
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valuable read. And it was
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interesting to see someone
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consider the ethics of
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appropriating representation
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itself for the wrong reasons.
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I'm not sure I understand the
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relevance of the voice actors
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background, though, could you
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clarify? I haven't seen the
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movie. So I'm unsure if it's
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biographical of someone who
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actually existed, or whether
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that would make a difference in
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your view.
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So this is a long winded I want
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to say way of asking, is
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accurate representation.
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Important? Is it important at
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all? And I actually answer this
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person's question in Milan is
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trash by saying that the people
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have monos time. And that's the
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thing with Disney they try they
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distance where they're getting
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their material from by trying to
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make it like, Oh, this is not a
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real thing. This is a magical
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land. But these are real people
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that actually existed. So
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they're trying to get the best
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of both worlds by being
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ambiguous as to whether or not
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this is an accurate portrayal of
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the people of those times or a
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mystical land, which is why they
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throw Maui in there was actually
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a god in an actual living
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religion, which I also talked
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about in the article. The voice actor for Moana it is
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someone who, who is Native
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Hawaiian, but it's also White.
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And we see this happen in a lot
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of different ways in media, they
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will only have somebody in that
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role if they are also white, if
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they have connections to white
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ancestry. Somewhere
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an amazing Instagram page on
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colorism called the darkest hue.
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I referenced that page so much a
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lot in a lot of my articles. But
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this question made me think of a
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post that she made on on the
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representation of Black love in
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all media, a lighter skinned
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Black woman being used to
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represent all Black boys. When
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we don't accurately represent
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people, people begin to believe
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this is what these people should
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look like. They should have
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Eurocentric features, they
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should not have features that
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are those of Africans that when
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in fact they are Black. That is
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the same with the voice actor of
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Moana being white. She the voice
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actor will be touted to
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represent this film, the voice
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actor will be interviewed Moana
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will not be interviewed who is a
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darker skin tone than the voice
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actor. She Lee Crump Bessho will
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represent what Pacific Islanders
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look like what Polynesian people
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look like she represents like
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she's very tied to that movie.
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So when she goes into
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interviews, people will say, Oh,
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this is what a Pacific Islander
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looks like, Oh, this is what
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someone a descendant of the
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people portrayed in this film
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will look like, oh, white
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person. Accurate representation
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is important because although
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this person is hinting at the
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fact that oh, this is a magical
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land, so people are going to
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take it as such. There are a lot of people in my
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comments of this article, who
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said, I really thought that this
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was accurate representation for
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these people and, and anyone who
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may see themselves in this film.
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Again, Disney does this so much
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with a lot of their films. There
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are a lot of comments on there
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saying they've done this with
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other films. But or another
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article called ambiguity is
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always intentional and exists
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when specificity is absent, or
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doesn't exist. So then you're
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intentional in making something
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ambiguous by being intentional
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with not having with not being
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specific in what you're
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portraying, or representing in
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this film, which is what they
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really wanted to do with.
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In summation accurate
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representation is important
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because without accurate
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representation, our history, our
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culture, and our livelihood, are
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misconstrued and taken as true.
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Hope this helps
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