“In our days we will live like our ghosts will live.”(Iron & Wine)What do ghosts, hauntings, and Friday the 13th have to do with figuring out what to do with your life?

Way more than I realized at the start of this interview.

When I sought out to interview a paranormal investigator, I just thought it would be cool to have a Friday the 13th themed episode. I’d been feeling a bit burnt out and thought it would be fun to talk to someone with a VERY fringe interest (ghosts) - even if I don’t personally believe in them. (Or do I? It really depends on the day.)

I was connected with investigator Paul Dale Roberts and I figured I’d ask him for a few scary stories, hear about what must be an out-of-the-ordinary journey, and be on my merry little life coach way.

What I DIDN’T expect was to be connected with someone who has lived a life beyond all “normal” expectations.

I didn’t expect to find that Paul really loves his OTHER (government) job too - or that he’s held a litany of titles and roles that sound more like he’s lived ten lives than one: police officer, veteran, author, fire fighter, entertainer, journalist, speaker, animal rescuer...and these roles are only the tip of the Paul iceberg.

While we start in the present-day paranormal, we visit a variety of helpful topics on our winding journey, such as:

What to do when a career you worked hard for doesn’t work outHow to pay bills and also live a creative life of passion and adventureHow to deal with criticism and other people’s opinionsHow to create the life you want - rather than waiting for opportunity to knockHow to live in a way that reverberates good after you’re gone

Oh, and we totally had a paranormal event on our call. Don’t believe me? Well I’m a skeptic too, but listen for yourself - and you be the judge.

In this week of a full moon, recession, no toilet paper, and the threat of a dangerous pandemic the world over, there’s a lot that we humans have to be tense over.

But in the midst of all that feels wrong and scary, I offer you this interview as an unexpected balm. Paul Dale Roberts and his earnest story of being true to himself lifted my dampened spirits, and I’m guessing that they’ll lift yours too.

And an important quote referenced in this episode:

"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.” (Theodore Roosevelt)To submit questions for the podcast, pitch yourself as a guest, or start your coaching journey, you can reach me at:[email protected] the Follow Your Fire Facebook group here:www.facebook.com/groups/116244026470651/To join my weekly newsletter (and get fun behind the scenes of the podcast, musings on life, and typical life coach poop jokes)http://eepurl.com/dr3AfzFind the amazing Paul Dale Roberts at all of the links below:

Halo Paranormal Investigationswww.cryptic916.com/Sacramento Paranormal Helpwww.facebook.com/HaloParanormalInvestigations/Email: [email protected] Paranormal Haunted Hotline: 916 203 7503And to see a picture of Paul as the disco king:https://www.valcomnews.com/former-pocket-area-resident-was-sacto%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%9cdisco-king%e2%80%9d/