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should leave it. I'm sorry,

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Stevie one.

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That was amazing.

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Yes, I'm in big Bird move right now? You

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look so yeah.

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In case you guys missed, I don't know where

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this episode will fall, but after Wayne

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Brady episode of inspiring him

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rocking is mo hair. I have an entire

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mohair section, which I don't

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like wearing this because of course you do this

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tends they also.

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Getting the food you eat. So

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the most beat boxing I do is

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via when the sweater the other ones

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go on.

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So you look great, but yeah, fantastic,

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smell great.

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I appreciate great smell, great smoking talk

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about yeah,

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walked down like damn.

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All right, So this is Quest Love Supreme and your host

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Quest Love Team Supremes in the house.

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We are in person. I

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hate the fact that even when we're in person, it

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feels like a special episode. Yeah,

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like I feel like we had.

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Our live soul train period and now

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like we're established, we're

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just all zoom lip sync

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and you know these are foreign few between,

3:25

but not today.

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I enjoy these, yah. It's good to see

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you counting that money studios, the

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audience where

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we live from that money.

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We're really in c that's

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what.

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Stand for, that of money, counting

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money. It does

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now, good

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to see you guys. Everything is fine, great, all

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right, No one's going out for cigarettes.

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Our guest today, I guess for the last quarter

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of century, our guest today, even

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before that. You know, our three times

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Grammy Award winning guests are one

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hundred million unit

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selling guests.

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That's a lot of well. PJ.

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Morton's here, he

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hasn't sold as many units, but

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our guests and its incredible band

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Room five, and then you know part

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of our our soundtrack, uh,

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and plus the way they effortlessly.

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Blend pop music and soul music and funk

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and all various styles of music. Definitely,

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I will say beyond a force to be reckoned

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with just a damn good band.

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You know, I know you made it. I fell

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into you, guys the same way that

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Prince fell into DiAngelo.

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When you can't get in an

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event like I've heard of the

4:56

name of Room five whatever, it's like when you guys

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came out early and you were playing

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a club in La and that

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was the first time where I realized like, oh, this might

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be a new it might be a new

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day, because like I just walked in, like Chris

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Rock always taught me, like just walk in like you're

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using the bet and you always get let in.

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Let me say, if if I had known that you

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were trying to get into our show at that point and

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couldn't, I would have lost my fucking mind.

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No, but it was just no one could get in.

5:23

It was you know when an artists want to do that cut

5:25

thing where they like get the small and we do it too.

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That jam session we used to have in LA.

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We were perfectly want people not

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to be able to get in, right people not not

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you, but like most people know no.

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But that's the legend of it.

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It was one time we did a jam session with Lenny Kravitz

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and Lenny Kravitz could not get into

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and La yes, And

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there was one point where it was just like a man, what if we

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lose the horn section, like trade the band members

5:51

and so that Lenny and his people could get on stage.

5:54

And that yeah, that happened to me.

5:56

And then I was like, Okay, that's very LA. These

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guys are big idea, you know.

6:02

A roots jam session I would have been.

6:03

Yeah, I know we played together before,

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but Fallon besides.

6:08

Fallen that, yeah, that was the only time, well

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the first time we really did it was a fallen

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along a million years ago. But I felt

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like we do you remember that? There's

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a lot about that day that was very faithful for me.

6:20

But do you remember when de Snyder like

6:22

went at me for like no reason? Remember why?

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That's I

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don't really well, I know, to be totally fair, like

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I don't fully remember. I kind of blacked out, Like

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I don't remember the whole thing because I couldn't believe it.

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That's how you know, you made it? Yeah, like I was.

6:36

I was doing with you guys. We were singing songs and I was just like

6:38

on the sideline. So like it was weird because and it was

6:41

really early in the show, right when the first start,

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and he was a guest on the show, and

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I don't know, couch guest. He was a couch guest.

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It's not gonna be a great story because don't remember exactly what

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he said, but he like went

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at me for no reason,

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like, and I was just like sitting on the side with you guys playing,

6:58

and he was like talk and she had somehow

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and I kind of stood up for myself, and I think

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that was like he was like, oh ship, and that

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was.

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Like you weren't going to take it.

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I don't remember, you're

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pushing your luck, just being.

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You should get the fun out of here. What

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can I say? I want to rock, dude.

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I totally forgot

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that moment.

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Yeah, it was just a part of the whole thing a

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little. But I couldn't believe he really like,

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I wish I remember what he said. I wish I had it on

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tape, but I don't. Nothing

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beloved for him or whatever.

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Is there any truth to the rumor back

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when guests were

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allowed to sit in with the roots either,

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you know, I mean, it's just a way to double down

7:58

on it. Instead of being an actual music guest

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on the show, you could just play with the Roots doing the commercial

8:03

bumpers and that ended weird

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enough after it'll fade it you

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got episode. Oh

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no, here's the thing. I love the Citzens.

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I love the Citzens when I'm really like at one with

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the guests. But then there's always like maybe

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eight or nine guests that

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are either kind of

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switch.

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Baits for publicists.

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So when you got sat in with us

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to promote his book, you got

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thought he was also going to be a couch

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guest.

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Oh so you know, he did

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the old thing like Jimmy does the monologue. Then

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he walks to the desk and he talks about who's on the.

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Show, and then he'll give a shout out and sitting

8:43

in with the rooster the day lady and tell me you got from Wu

8:45

Tang clan.

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You got like stood up. It's like, oh, thanks

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for me, and then he like but

8:54

the way he just walked over and crossed

8:57

his legs and sat down like started doing

8:59

this, I was like, oh god,

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Jimmy's just gonna go with this. And sure enough, Jimmy,

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he could have just stopped and been like no, no, I was just introduced

9:07

to you. But he let you guys sit in for

9:09

like two segments as wow,

9:12

wow wow, okay. But we were so happy because

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I was like, yo, I bet you it's gonna be a never give moment.

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Sure enough, never again.

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So it's clips well

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yeah, so too artists. So artists always asked me, can

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I sit in one?

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Y'all?

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Sorry? Dog like you got.

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But for you when you.

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Sat in with us. Is it true that the

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producer of like he saw that

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NBC.

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I guess that's what they told me they

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saw it. And then I think part of it

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though, also was the interaction with what Jimmy

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with Jimmy comedic and it was great and

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it was like we had the thing, and so I think that was

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what they saw too, is you know, me obviously

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standing up for myself in front.

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Of a

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voice.

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Before the voice, that's what you're saying.

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We were all kind of rapping and it was like, okay, cool, you

9:57

can handle both, right, And so I think that's

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probably what art it.

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So, hey, you guys, great greatness

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came from that.

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I probably have the the rehearsals

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from that day from what from the day

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you sat in with the Roots?

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Oh yeah, we have all the records.

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Probably by the way, that was an education.

10:13

Sitting in with you guys.

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Wait, can I say your name first on

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our show? Yes?

10:23

Okay, sitting in with you guys talk

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about that. It was just so

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fast because they move so fast,

10:31

right, So you're like, you know, we

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take it to the band. We barely practice,

10:36

like I

10:38

know, but you guys, but you guys practice while you're doing, while

10:41

you're performing, you guys are so

10:43

good and so in it that like it's crazy to

10:45

see.

10:45

But that's the thing.

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I don't say this much because I don't know how Jimmy

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feels about it, because I don't want him to feel like

10:52

this is just like a dismissive statement.

10:54

But for me, us doing

10:57

that show is us going to the gym. Yeah,

11:00

we've never practiced as a band.

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We've even that time when we really

11:04

first met, when PJ was practicing

11:06

with the guys, We've only had like maybe

11:09

seven of those in our entire thirty year existence

11:11

because and.

11:12

They're painful when you do have to do them. I

11:14

don't like to do it, Like

11:17

it's not fun to practice.

11:18

Well, Amir, do rehearse quite

11:20

a bit for special event concerts.

11:23

Since two thousand and nine. But

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that's the thing, that's ten years.

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So you were there.

11:28

You were there for the first week. Remember the first

11:30

weeks of us figuring

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out like what this new life is. We

11:35

didn't hit a note until an hour in and

11:38

that's because I went in the hallway to call Rich and I was

11:40

like, Yo, what do we do?

11:42

And He's like, what are you talking about?

11:43

What you do just start rehearsing, and

11:46

to sit there with just the seven people

11:49

you're in a band with and rehearse to me was like it

11:52

was the hardest thing.

11:53

But it was to see it all in real time. Because also the

11:55

way that the show moves, which is so quickly,

11:57

and the segments are the segments you got to feel out

11:59

you go crazy. It's a whole different world than what

12:01

I was into.

12:02

Well, you were easy because some artists will

12:04

come in and really

12:07

not get the concept, you know, and always explain

12:09

to them that it's how we end the song that's

12:12

important.

12:13

How fast you catch on.

12:14

It's also what it's as everybody knows, it's not

12:16

what you do, it's what you don't do it until you listen, and if

12:19

you don't do that, it's a disaster, I'm sure for you.

12:22

But yeah, we've had a lot of crashes

12:25

and which an artist will be like, no, no, let me

12:27

do that again. I could do it better. I'm like, no, you don't

12:29

get it like it's supposed to how this works. What

12:37

was your very first musical memory in life.

12:41

I know, the first record I bought

12:44

other than my parents playing music in the car,

12:47

which is probably always the Beatles. This

12:50

is so funny, but I remember very distinctly

12:53

buying the Eddie Grant Electric Avenue.

12:57

That was.

12:58

But it was like like a tick played the song

13:00

like like my parents were like I never need

13:02

to hear the song again, So.

13:04

What uh, it's not unusual. It's

13:06

to John Mlaney, That's what Electric

13:09

Avenue was.

13:09

To use the kid.

13:10

It was like it was like ad nauseum all day

13:12

long. Please God, I don't ever want

13:14

to hear it again that song

13:17

comes on, that song holds.

13:19

Up, dude.

13:20

Jimmy wanted him on the show to

13:23

do Electric Avenue, and the first

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thing he wanted to do, you know, like artists

13:28

might have that smells like teen spirit moment where

13:30

they don't want to do the song

13:32

that they're known for.

13:33

Like Bobby mcfairn, like like, you know, like

13:35

I want to do like

13:38

play, So

13:41

listen to the song and realize what it's about

13:43

and then realize he should play.

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Okay, when he came on the show, you remember this, Steve,

13:47

he wanted to do like a different

13:49

version of it. He wanted to mix it

13:51

with it. I don't want to dance like the other minor

13:54

hits that.

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He wanted to do the B side Time Warp.

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Yes, yo, Wait, so do you know about

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time Warp? Dude?

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So time Warp is I

14:03

didn't even notice this, but we've all heard

14:05

time Warp. So Time Warris

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is kind of a song of

14:10

his that was like a B side that

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wound up being not him

14:14

going rogue the only way I can describe it, you know,

14:16

like dog was a donut on Cat Stevens's

14:19

record.

14:19

Wow, that's a metaphor. That is a deep

14:21

cut. It's like an instrumental.

14:24

Right, it's an instrumental.

14:26

Okay, So Encyclopedia.

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In seventy seven, Cat Stevens

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had a synthesizer endorsement

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deal with the company, of which he promised,

14:36

like, okay, one of these songs, I'll play

14:38

your instruments on the record. But Cat Stevens

14:40

ain't necessarily a synth based artist.

14:43

He's like acoustic.

14:44

Yeah, you don't say, right.

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And so basically the

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penultimate cut, like the song before

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the album ends, he did a quickly little

14:52

four minute demonstration song

14:55

of this new drum machine and whatever, and

14:58

it actually fucked around and wound the being

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like a bee Boy classic.

15:02

But who's about right now, Steve?

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Thanks Adam let's get to Seddie

15:08

and then back to my mind just exploded.

15:14

This is dog was a donut by uh

15:18

okay, yeah right, which is

15:20

basically like, so this is cat.

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That's what you went.

15:23

Adams, Like, where do we start with this?

15:25

That's not cast it is because

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he contractually had to make a

15:31

song up with all this jarm machines.

15:34

That's a weird contractualgat in nineteen seventy

15:36

seven.

15:37

He was the first with the like Lynn

15:39

drum and all that stuff. So he made this ship

15:42

and of course the bee Boy community press

15:44

work immediately picked up

15:46

on it and it became a classic unbeknownst

15:48

to him. But the same with Eddie Grant. Eddie

15:50

Grant did kind of an overheim

15:53

synthesizer song called time Work,

15:55

which is.

15:57

He had a foot in that door already though that the cat

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stevehn sh is crazy. Yeah, I never heard

16:01

anything like that in my life from him, Like what

16:04

was that? I want to hear it.

16:04

I didn't know, right, none of us

16:07

knew what was him.

16:08

You've got to get this.

16:09

So this this is the B side of Electric

16:11

Avenue.

16:16

So basically at Paradise Garage,

16:19

this became an anthem and if it's played

16:21

at Paradise Garage. It also means that at

16:23

Crocker is also playing it on his radio show.

16:26

So Eddie Grant wanted.

16:29

To come and do work.

16:31

I just came back.

16:32

We got full circle. I'm there.

16:35

I'm very focused in the morning, and

16:37

now the show's over. Thank you very much, Eddie

16:43

Grant. Really anyway,

16:45

so you loved Electric Gavenue. He

16:50

came up and wanted to do the B side.

16:52

Yeah, he's just crazy.

16:53

Jimmy is always watching the

16:56

music guests from his dressing room or his

16:58

office because he has a monitor in there, and

17:00

he tries not to come out and freak out the people

17:02

that early in the morning.

17:03

But that's the one time in which.

17:06

You know, we're like, okay, so we'll do one verse of Electric

17:08

Avenue and then we'll do time Warp

17:11

and which you're not singing at all. Jimmy

17:13

ran in and it was like, guys, no,

17:16

I need you to do Electric Avenue.

17:19

And then at that he wanted to do like a blues

17:21

harmonica version of it.

17:22

Oh god, yeah, yeah, yeah,

17:25

that's hard.

17:25

When that's like we had to, right,

17:28

we had to wrestle them out of that and just do regular

17:31

ass at your avenue.

17:33

You guys had already like sampled all the weird

17:35

little samples.

17:36

In all the little all those little stuff

17:38

Burbson's frame. Its

17:40

like Ray Parker not doing Ghostbusters some ship

17:43

like that.

17:43

True, yeah's true, So Huey lewis

17:45

not doing Ghostbusters.

17:51

Since we're all music answers here, I will also

17:53

maintain that, uh, the

17:56

bar Kays, a group

17:59

extremely for being derivative,

18:01

should have really they should have been

18:03

the ones that sued Ray

18:06

Parker. And only because

18:08

how come no one has ever brought up, you

18:10

know, soul Finger by the Barks.

18:13

The Adam you didn't know you was coming to class

18:15

today? Of course we don't exactly,

18:18

of course we don't.

18:19

Don't.

18:24

This is Ghostbusters for real. It is wow, well

18:27

no, I mean, this is the Barks.

18:29

I know what you mean, but we have but you

18:31

get yeah.

18:33

But I'm saying like someone came in and was like, it's something

18:35

strange.

18:38

But what's what's really hot about it is that the

18:40

Barks are probably the most derivative

18:43

copycat groups in soul history,

18:45

and they have one original moment.

18:47

One original moment that could have

18:49

gotten paid anyway. So besides

18:52

Eddie Grant, h that.

18:53

Was a beautiful tangent.

18:54

But but that's what this show

18:57

love that. I love you as a as a music

18:59

nerd. So that was that was your song.

19:01

Yeah, that was the first like kind of thing I fell in love

19:04

with and wanted to play over and over and over again. And

19:06

then thankfully, thank god, my parents had good taste

19:08

in music, so there was that. That was a rare

19:11

thing. I feel like a lot of times you want to, like want to rebel

19:13

against your parents taste when you're when you're grown up.

19:15

But they love great stuff. So they my

19:17

education started their Beatles and fleet

19:20

with mac and all the great rock and rollers

19:22

stuff that you know, kind of shape

19:24

me early on, and I loved it.

19:26

What did your people do with the musicians as

19:28

well?

19:29

No, I mean I still think that being

19:31

musical is something you have to kind of unlock, like,

19:34

and that's a lot. I think that there are people

19:36

out there. There are people who think that they're unlocked, that

19:38

they should not be, and people

19:41

who who I think I think more people out

19:43

there can sing and be creative

19:45

and play music that don't think that they can. I do

19:48

believe that because because it has come from somewhere

19:50

and I know that my both my parents, and they would

19:52

be reluctant to say can sing.

19:55

They just don't sing and they don't

19:57

think that they can, you know, like but I'd never

20:00

not a muscle to use. You know what tone death sounds

20:02

like? Absolutely and neither one of them are. So if

20:04

there might have been something there, and you know, if

20:06

I had gone another way, maybe I wouldn't have discovered

20:08

it about myself.

20:09

You know, do you remember the first concert you went to?

20:12

Oh yeah I

20:15

do.

20:15

I don't know. This

20:19

is your base City Rollers moment, so

20:22

remember everyone has the beginning of course, and

20:24

by the way, like as.

20:26

Embarrassing I'm selling. So it

20:28

was nineteen ninety

20:31

New Kids on.

20:32

The Blank I was talking about.

20:33

They say the same thing.

20:35

Come on, kids, I

20:38

know we were supposed to hate them because we were ten and all

20:40

the girls liked them, and shit, right now

20:43

that we do.

20:45

We were supposed to.

20:46

I was ten or eleven, and I was really, really, really

20:48

into like the hair band

20:51

ship because that.

20:51

Was that was it, that was that was

20:54

pop music, was no

20:56

no real hair bands.

20:57

Yeah, I went to see Warrant, Yeah

21:00

song, I knew no,

21:06

this was actually I think this might have been like either

21:09

pre cherry Pie. I think it might have been like dirty,

21:11

rotten, filthy, stinking Rich was with the album that was

21:13

big, with like some deep shit that like.

21:18

I went to go see him the Santa Monica Civic Auditorium

21:21

with my dad because I wouln't go alone. I was

21:23

ten, you know, And I just remember

21:25

going there and I will never forget just

21:27

the scene was so crazy

21:30

and then hairspraying like crazy,

21:33

and then they played. I can't

21:36

say that they were very good,

21:39

but it was so impressive just to hear sound come out

21:41

of a PA loud in your

21:43

face and I had never really heard that, so I was just like wow.

21:46

But I remember the worst thing about the show that will

21:48

never forget was the drummer did a drum solo. Yo,

21:52

let me tell you what this guy did, okay,

21:55

because I can't you can't even make it up because it's so

21:58

eighties you can't even make it up. The dude

22:01

they like put the spotlight on him and

22:03

he like stood up and

22:05

like.

22:08

I started rolling into.

22:13

And it was.

22:16

Crazy. He didn't do anything

22:18

else, but

22:26

yet, never forget it.

22:27

Charisma goes a long long

22:30

way because right now,

22:33

God, I hope this is doing come off front.

22:36

Right now, I'm watching a

22:39

whole slew a Verdeing

22:41

White.

22:42

Oh yeah, wind

22:44

Fire, And because

22:47

I witnessed that in real time

22:49

as a kid, yo, I thought it

22:51

was the most amazing ship I ever seen. Like

22:54

he would do like all this theatrical thing, but

22:56

he basically was the only pressing

22:59

one note, Like he would just press

23:02

e e.

23:05

And like, but he put

23:07

so much theatrics into it. He did like and

23:09

then like it was like the.

23:10

Earthquake effect, and then he was like, all

23:13

right, I'm gonna do this again and then

23:17

fall on the ground and then he would anyway.

23:23

And then suddenly suddenly he

23:25

even start levitating and

23:27

floating all in the you know, because

23:30

they had like Dug Henning and David Copperfield

23:32

like on staff to do the magic ship. And

23:34

I realized, like, wow, Verdie White

23:37

just did right

23:40

a four minute one

23:42

note thing, and I thought it was the greatest shit on it.

23:44

But for the record that that sounds way

23:46

doper than what I'm talking about. It

23:53

was too long, you know, how long was It

23:56

seemed like an eternity it

24:00

was, And I was so young for me to think

24:02

it was lame was crazy, Like

24:04

play the drums please do something.

24:06

But yes, the showmanship. Of course, the showmanship

24:09

has a part of it. And it was like I'm still talking

24:11

about it thirty million years later, right, had

24:13

an impact?

24:15

Well, see, I didn't.

24:16

Put myself in the corner because every gospel

24:19

drummer thinks like I trashed there. Look

24:22

Mino hands method that now I

24:24

feel like I can't even go there. And

24:26

then of course Chris Dave has his

24:29

his eccentric thing with every drummer

24:32

following his thing. So now it's like, even

24:34

if I wanted to get back into go

24:37

to showman, that's basically why

24:39

stroves here.

24:39

Like I'm feel like.

24:40

Anderson kills it too on of them drums, the way he gets

24:42

up and does his little theatrics too.

24:44

I gotta bring theatrics back, all right, my

24:47

my ike turning wig.

24:48

It's a really good question for both of you, is

24:50

like in your situations and anybody

24:53

entertainment, I guess how much to

24:55

what that mix is between showmanship

24:58

and sh musicianship.

25:00

Yeah, I overthink it.

25:02

I mean for me because Kirk

25:05

as a guitar player, so theatrical i'd

25:08

rather and you know, right,

25:11

but it's it's just like everyone else is so

25:14

theatrical. I don't feel the need to just

25:16

add on top of like people

25:18

know I'm there and I'm fine

25:20

with that.

25:21

So basically, but as.

25:23

A band, you're blending showmanship and musicianship

25:25

too as a whole.

25:27

I think we're at our best when we're not doing shit and we're

25:29

all just playing together as a unit, which

25:32

is not as impressive as.

25:33

Says

25:36

you asked for a minute, But

25:38

I think what makes you so special

25:40

is that you don't have that. You

25:43

don't know what I don't do. You

25:45

want to take the extreme opposite of the dude I'm talking about

25:47

this ship like he needed.

25:49

That, so

25:54

you too add him to question that that Steve asked, right,

25:57

like, how do you figure that balance out?

25:59

What's crazy is like the showmanship thing is

26:01

always felt kind of secondary because and

26:03

we've existed in a weird space where like there's

26:06

a lot of pop pop stuff and we're

26:08

a band, so like, at at the end of the day, we're

26:10

kind of a very normal, you

26:12

know, five piece well now six piece band, and

26:15

so we've never felt like we'd actually

26:17

fit in anywhere, and so performing has always

26:19

just been very straightforward for us, Like the music leads

26:22

first, a showmanship thing I'm working

26:24

on my whole life, you know, as far as being a good front

26:27

man and stuff started when we got James to play

26:29

in the band because I needed that. Was when guys were like,

26:31

hey, you need to like be out front and not

26:33

have to play guitar the whole time. And James

26:35

joined them, you know, twenty twenty something

26:37

years ago, so I could focus on doing that. But

26:39

it's never been like like a

26:42

pop star comfortable thing for me to like perform

26:44

perform. It's always just like, okay, I'm saying, I'm up here

26:46

singing yeah, and then the

26:49

rest of it is just kind of naturally came over.

26:50

You always felt pop star by accident, like well.

26:53

It's not even necessarily by accident, but okay, Like the

26:55

first time I was on the Voice and we did a performance,

26:58

this is a perfect example. They tried to choreographed

27:00

me to put me in a spot to go, and

27:03

she was like and she God bless her, she didn't know

27:05

what to do with me because I was She's like, okay, and then you're gonna walk over

27:07

here, and the director of the show, the choreographer,

27:10

choreographer, choreographer, sh

27:17

choreographed for and

27:21

uh, and and she was like you need okay, so halfway

27:23

through the song, you're gonna come. And I was like, hey, hey,

27:27

I don't know. I don't have the capacity

27:29

to know or remember that. So

27:32

like, yeah, hitting marks and going

27:34

here and dancing and all that is

27:36

always and thank god has always

27:38

will be foreign to me because I just.

27:39

Like, oh, you don't like to be staged.

27:41

Yeah, I'm like allergic to it.

27:43

I like that.

27:44

I can't I'm popping up out of the floor.

27:46

And yeah, but here's

27:49

the thing.

27:49

Normally, about forty

27:51

five minutes an hour into the podcast we get to this

27:53

part of the subject. But I'll just bring it up now, are

27:56

you a former

27:58

reluctant leader? Because I

28:00

also know that to

28:03

be in your position is

28:06

very awkward because the thing is, I'm

28:08

assuming that this in every group dynamic

28:11

situation one you're.

28:13

The chosen one, more falls

28:15

on your back.

28:17

I think we also run with this narrative that like,

28:20

if you're too charismatic or two in

28:22

front or out there, that your

28:24

credibility, like you don't

28:27

a bunch of me like Wardolphin,

28:29

the statler people are.

28:32

Yeah judging you.

28:34

You know how it is you started playing music in a band, and

28:36

then people emerge and as people

28:39

come to the front, and I was always

28:41

kind of there, and then I

28:43

think I always had like a I would say, if I'm

28:45

being super honest, like I wanted to be out front.

28:48

I wanted to be that guy. But then

28:51

the weird thing happened. This is a whole other tangent. But when

28:55

I started doing like co writes, shit

28:57

up a little, Hey, what the fuck

28:59

are you doing? Because this is a band, And

29:02

so that happened.

29:04

You guys, don't do the equal one fifth one fifth

29:06

one fifth one Well.

29:06

Now when you're right, well, here's the well we did.

29:08

We did.

29:09

And my whole thing from the beginning was like, so if

29:11

you write this, you're part of it. You write

29:13

this, you're part of it. But yes, it was it was

29:16

always fair. And then the code write start

29:18

happening, and that was that was less

29:20

about money, That was more about just the

29:23

soul of a band. And I

29:25

think all of our minds potentially being corrupted by

29:27

the process of having someone else's ideas come in

29:29

and and and uh take over.

29:32

So that was a controversial moment for us

29:34

internally, but

29:36

then it worked. So then it was like, I

29:38

mean, the first code write was moves like Jagger.

29:41

So that was wow.

29:42

That was like, oh shit, like maybe

29:44

we're gonna do this for a while, you know. And so

29:46

that was a negotiation of me being

29:48

like, hey, it's working. We

29:51

got a couple biggies, like, let's

29:53

just like trust me and

29:56

if I see it and if it's not working anymore,

29:58

you know, and if whatever I'm doing for us, let me lead,

30:00

and if it's not working, then then well and I said this to him

30:02

straight up, we'll talk about it, we'll regroup,

30:05

we'll make things a little more democratic, but right now, just let

30:07

me lead and let me take it. And they were super cool

30:09

with it because I was, well, like

30:12

they were cooler than in the time that right, But

30:14

yes, I communicated very like openly

30:17

and straightforwardly and they appreciated

30:19

it. And then we had like eight

30:21

in a row, you know, so like they

30:23

couldn't really sing yet.

30:24

Right, and that I

30:27

feel like what you just said is actually

30:29

the most important part, because I'll

30:32

say, for what I'm doing now, this

30:34

is probably the most that

30:36

Treak and I have ever communicated.

30:38

And it's it's not as awkward as it

30:41

used to be. You guys will grow up

30:43

and know you have to like yeah.

30:45

But it's a very scary thing because like I'm

30:47

very fragile with rejection.

30:49

I work my ass off for like four days

30:52

on that project and be like what do you think? You

30:54

know, it's cool, and then like suddenly

30:58

I started giving feelings. So I'm now learning

31:00

how to and.

31:01

Not ego all of it. We

31:03

all have them, and especially bands, and

31:06

so I think, like I was just talking about this yesterday

31:08

too, like like we're really lucky

31:10

because everyone really likes each other and

31:12

wants to get along, you know, And I think,

31:15

like, tell me a band has been able to

31:17

stay together. We've been

31:19

together for twenty years, you know, longer almost,

31:21

so it's like and we actually don't

31:23

want to kill each other, you know sometimes,

31:26

but you know, we love each other and the respect

31:28

is has always been there and it's there. But

31:30

we're lucky like that.

31:32

Do you guys try to do things off

31:34

site?

31:35

There was a moment where we would like Threek

31:37

Love's cooking, so, you know, dinner at

31:39

my house, that sort of thing where it's not us

31:41

getting together because.

31:43

We're bad at spending time together when we're apart

31:45

from work. But I will say

31:47

work for us when we work is

31:50

we're hanging, so it feels

31:53

like we're just chilling. Even when

31:55

we're just backstage for hours or whatever. It is

31:57

so like I feel like that time is super special

31:59

to us them When we disperse, it's

32:01

like see it, see it.

32:03

A month probably,

32:06

yeah.

32:07

But no off premise activity we do. Of course

32:09

we do.

32:11

There's moon five go bowling together and stuff

32:13

like.

32:14

That, bowling big

32:17

bowler or no, like on

32:19

days off from touring, there's no.

32:21

I'm the worst at participating in those

32:24

things. Okay, I'm gonna say, vocal rest,

32:26

you need a break.

32:27

Hey, it's a real thing.

32:33

I hate nothing more than

32:36

when vocal rest gets used as

32:38

a reason.

32:39

All the time.

32:41

Never it will be the one to scream at you too.

32:43

I thought he's on vocal rest.

32:46

Sometimes you just can't help it.

32:49

Vocal rest is real.

32:51

Abused as a thing also

32:54

true, But it is real

32:56

when you rest your voices.

32:58

Are you the towel around?

33:00

No?

33:01

No, no no no.

33:02

I don't talk from my

33:04

Ship's like reasonable. I'll go to bed at like whatever

33:06

time and like I wake up and I don't talk

33:08

for like three four or five hours.

33:10

Wow, So it's that real.

33:12

But then I can talk Okay, that must

33:14

be a hell of a thing when you was doing the voice and stuff

33:16

and then you had to do other things like voice.

33:19

Through me so much talk.

33:21

I don't know. That was a hard hard

33:23

time because I had to do all these different things. I want a

33:25

lot of energy, want multitasking.

33:27

Yeah, Adam.

33:33

When you first realize that you could sing, that you had like

33:35

a high tenor voice.

33:37

Probably like I was like ten eleven

33:40

in my voice, you know, as you can imagine, I had an extraordinarily

33:43

high, pre puberty voice that

33:46

was like angelophone.

33:46

And be like, oh hey man, you

33:49

put it right right right.

33:51

I was like, that's fun. Let

33:53

the mark left the mark on it paid

33:56

off?

33:56

Yeah, I did.

33:58

I was.

33:58

I had this amazing I always talk about

34:01

him because he's the greatest. He passed

34:03

away, which is awful because I wish you could have seen

34:05

all the wonderful things that got to happen. But my music teacher

34:07

when I was in elementary school was

34:10

this really kind of boisterous, loud,

34:12

amazing piano player singing. This

34:15

was always sweating from singing, love the whole thing. And

34:17

we'd sit in music class and I wanted to be a basketball

34:19

player, like an athlete. I didn't like

34:22

think music was cool really when I was nine, you

34:24

know, and probably like ten eleven to twelve when I started to get

34:26

into it. But he told me I could sing, and

34:28

he pulled me aside. And it was me and this other kid

34:31

who wound up becoming an opera singer, which is crazy.

34:33

And he would pulls aside every day after he said, you guys

34:36

are so good at this, Like you don't understand. You guys

34:38

are very very good singer. As you can sing, you should

34:40

do And I was like, ah, like what

34:43

evering?

34:44

How would he hear you? How did he know?

34:45

Because I mean he would walk around

34:47

and he would see and you'd hear. Also,

34:50

it's easy what no one can sing, like when someone

34:53

can sing a little bit, you can tell. But I

34:55

was just shy and I started playing guitar

34:57

and still didn't want to sing. And the only reason I became

34:59

a singer is because I was literally just

35:01

the best guy in the band at singing.

35:04

So I wasn't very good at it when I started,

35:06

especially live, and then that of course, like overtime.

35:09

So with Kara's Flowers, the group

35:11

that Maroon five eventually morphed into what

35:14

was the lineup and the whole division of labor

35:17

and.

35:17

That like who was singing who I was

35:19

singing? In Cars Flowers, I was

35:21

always the singer. I was always the lead singer. There was it

35:23

was you know, guys did background vocals, and the songs

35:25

were like like I wrote weird songs about nothing

35:27

because I was so young and to write about.

35:29

So when you started fifteen,

35:33

every group starts off as a

35:35

prototype of what they would like to follow.

35:37

Oh yeah, first of it. First it

35:39

was Pearl Jam and then it morphed into like Weezer,

35:42

you know what I mean, Like it was like the time because

35:44

it was your kids, so like you just like you take

35:46

on like whatever you're in love

35:49

with musically, so like, and then we got signed

35:51

to Warner Brothers to reprise as

35:53

Cars Flowers and we're at that point. The

35:55

music it was so weird. It was like cool,

35:58

kind of power popping music, but like the lyrics

36:00

were so whack and crazy. I can't believe that's

36:02

actually out there. So

36:05

yeah, it was like a product of the times again,

36:07

like the nineties, like you know, kind of poppy,

36:10

power poppy. I guess what year was this, Yeah,

36:13

ninety seven? Who

36:16

produced it, Rob Cavallo. Yeah,

36:20

so so a whole you have a

36:22

whole other life.

36:24

I want to know this hit me, hit me.

36:25

So when I was I was in high school, we played

36:28

it a I forgot how we found out, but basically we

36:30

played a high school like a uni high school

36:32

party, university party, and his

36:35

sister saw us play. Rob's sister but

36:37

yeah, anyway, he saw me play and then we got

36:39

wound up getting signed before high school was over. So

36:42

what was that?

36:42

Like I woulitness boys

36:45

to men and go through that in high school.

36:46

So also remember well remember first of all, I lead

36:48

nowhere, but like the initial like the contract,

36:51

the hemorrhaging money making a fucking record

36:53

because it was back in the day when like a spend

36:55

spend.

36:56

Spend actual recording budgets.

36:57

Oh my god, Like you were great

37:00

when you got signed eleventh grade, So

37:02

what were you thinking, Like back in the eleventh grade,

37:04

I'm like, yo, I'm making

37:06

it.

37:07

And who's reading your paperwork?

37:09

We were good, like it was, but

37:11

also look like the record deals

37:13

of the past, because we got a little and

37:16

we had a failed record deal that we soon dropped

37:18

from, you know, so but we

37:20

we had a record deal where it was like if they let

37:22

us go, they had to pay us, Like

37:25

that will never happen forever, zero

37:29

success.

37:30

Matter of fact, will co learn from repries?

37:33

Oh yeah yeah, So like that was

37:35

like a different time of the recommends, but it was a learning

37:37

experience and it was fun. But yeah, Rob

37:39

produced a record and this was like he just produced

37:42

Green Day, So we were like, oh shit, here we go, Like

37:44

bam record went nowhere, sold like eight

37:46

copies. They dropped us like a

37:48

year later.

37:49

Okay, since you got signed in ninety six, can

37:51

I take a while guess that because

37:53

I'm like, wait, you guys were super young when they signed

37:56

you.

37:56

Were they trying to cash in on

37:58

the h Hanson kind

38:01

of?

38:01

Here's what I was gonna say, No, because we were

38:04

much like we were way more alternative, like

38:07

like when we first started, who's.

38:09

The trio from Australia that also was

38:11

your Chair? Was it more

38:14

to that or.

38:16

We weren't that grungy either, like like it

38:18

was just That's what I was gonna say, though, was so rare like

38:20

back then maybe different in pop music,

38:23

but being a band that's that young,

38:25

there was no one literally like remember

38:27

like ben Lee had a thing where he was

38:30

like, holy shit, they signed this second coming sixteen.

38:33

That was it. It wasn't like there was all these bands

38:35

being signed, so that was it was very rare to get the deal in

38:37

the first place. And I think like even back

38:39

then, like everyone knew kind of like, oh, these

38:41

kids might make it someday, but I'm not sure. This is

38:43

the you know, iteration to day right

38:46

and do it for. It was a wild time

38:48

being a senior in high school. Every

38:52

day leaving school and driving to like

38:55

Conway.

38:56

Wow, it was like post death Road Conway

38:59

too.

39:00

Hey canon baby, that some ship you

39:03

went there?

39:04

I did.

39:05

I took a to say anything.

39:08

It was post that came. That's where all the

39:10

death songs and

39:13

stories came from.

39:15

So many stories. Okay, but we mixed

39:17

there like years later. It was nothing. It was

39:19

like two thousand.

39:20

Wait didn't we Did we go to Conway or

39:22

cam Conway is like deep?

39:25

Like, uh.

39:27

Did we record there once? We did an episode

39:29

there once.

39:30

I have to have been there before.

39:31

I was there with Storms.

39:34

That's where we did

39:36

too Short with Dennis Quaid.

39:39

We did. Yeah, but I didn't known that

39:41

studio, did he?

39:42

No?

39:42

No, no, no, I'm just saying I don't think it was.

39:43

I think it was Conway's studios.

39:45

There's no way you've lived your whole life and not been there

39:47

at least once.

39:49

Maybe not been there once. It's super cooler.

39:51

It's like a great studio. Anyway, I was a kid, I was

39:53

going to place. I was like, wow, like it was

39:55

the most and I get there two years young

39:57

too. I was like, let's get food. Let's

40:00

order all of the cheesecake factory, that

40:03

whole menu.

40:03

That's a big son.

40:06

It was the.

40:10

Books, like, I

40:14

do not need some podstickers

40:17

and a steak, dude? Can I Okay?

40:19

The avocado eggrollround

40:22

they give you in the beginning, that was.

40:24

The most soulful I've

40:28

ever seen.

40:29

That was so so much pressure. It's

40:33

so much pressure.

40:34

Wait, give me a second, because

40:36

I have to acknowledge like that

40:39

was the most I felt scene moment

40:43

I've been on the show, because

40:46

I got to explain to you guys that

40:48

when you realize what

40:51

the perks are of this job, the

40:54

second that you realize that you get

40:57

access to free, unlimited quality

40:59

food. I always tell the

41:01

story of Wendy Goldstein

41:04

having a refrigerator

41:06

with nothing but orange juice

41:08

in it. Like thing of the way that they opened

41:10

refrigerator in nothing but a g thing

41:12

whatever.

41:13

It's like.

41:16

When she opened that specific all the roots

41:19

look at each other like yo. And

41:22

then next thing, you know, she went to the bat whatever.

41:23

We just housing

41:27

oliver orange juice. But dog, you

41:29

can't believe it.

41:30

I can't believe it. I'm telling you the orders, you

41:32

know, the three the books Mexican

41:36

food, every menu food,

41:38

like three menus per page. As Oh

41:41

yeah, we.

41:43

Wouldn't even have sessions at

41:46

We would just know that we had an account at a specific

41:49

studio like that was the original post

41:51

Mates.

41:51

We just go buy battery studios and orders it

41:53

and be like charge.

41:55

How about that? How about the fact that someone's gonna go get it and

41:57

bring it back before our

42:00

dad?

42:00

Y'all don't know what these these folks are talking about right now,

42:02

Ya, there's ultimate before

42:04

Postmates.

42:06

It's still I still do not over it.

42:08

I'm still like you get this from me in

42:10

long distance?

42:12

Oh god, as you finished reading a cheese cakement

42:14

and long distance, boy, that was awesome.

42:17

So what were your expectations

42:19

at that time? Super

42:22

high?

42:23

Just so high, because I mean they

42:26

were always high. But I think like the only

42:28

time that I had delusional

42:30

I think. I always say, like, you have to have a

42:32

delusional amount of self confidence to

42:34

make it, because you have to really believe like

42:37

a lot.

42:39

Here's the thing, though, in this mind

42:41

state that I'm trying to permanently

42:43

place myself in, like is delusion?

42:46

Is that really a thing? Yes?

42:49

Okay, well yes,

42:51

yeah. It's all semantics how

42:54

you want to word it, because.

42:55

It's very much like it's like, there is this book I read

42:57

like a while but when uh, it's

42:59

called Good to Great.

43:00

It's a business book.

43:01

And one of the things that they talk

43:03

about, like the CEOs that like took their companies

43:05

to like record growth and shit. One of the things

43:07

they all found out was they used something called

43:10

the Stockdale paradox, and what it is

43:12

is based on this general gym Stockdale.

43:14

I don't want to fuck his name up, but anyway, he was

43:16

a pow president like Vietnam

43:18

and shit, and so when he made it

43:21

out, you know, he would talk and people

43:23

would ask him, well, how did you make it like.

43:24

What it was?

43:25

And the thing he said was, you know, the first thing

43:27

I did was I understood that I had

43:30

to accept the brutal reality of what it was

43:32

like. I had to accept just the brutal reality,

43:35

but still at the same time understand

43:37

that there was a way that I couldn't make it out. And he

43:40

said, you know, the people who didn't make it were

43:42

the people who was like, ah, we'll

43:45

be out by November. Then November comes,

43:47

we'll be out by December, then January

43:50

comes, we'll be out by whatever. They

43:52

don't make it, because those are the people. They don't

43:54

make it because they die of a broken heart, you

43:56

know what I mean.

43:57

So you have to have.

44:00

You have to senter how especially in the music

44:02

industry, you shitn't me like, you have to see like,

44:04

Okay, this shit is fucked up, but you have to have that

44:06

delusional belief in yourself that you'll make

44:09

it no matter what.

44:09

So I feel the filtered way that

44:12

makes total sense, and I get it. So

44:15

basically, you're saying you have to stay

44:17

in the present and pivot

44:20

towards your future, which

44:22

we rarely do. Like a

44:25

lot of people are either ruled

44:27

by either tragedy or charmer in their past

44:29

that makes them how they are now and they don't

44:31

get over the past. And so I

44:34

see that now, but I also do believe that

44:37

for everyone that I've ever judged.

44:40

Mind you, these are toxic

44:42

people now sort of going through their shit. But

44:46

anyone that we ever ruled as arrogant

44:49

or fool themselves or that sort of thing,

44:52

I also noticed that they've made

44:55

it because they had to convince

44:57

themselves that, yeah, that m

45:00

ward social paths.

45:01

I mean, yeah, you have to well here's

45:03

the thing.

45:06

To be.

45:07

Don't don't be that in

45:10

a nice way.

45:11

God, these are all very tricky conversations,

45:15

you think so, But

45:18

delusional self confidence and manifest

45:20

destiny could be the same thing, right, Like,

45:23

It's just I think one is a little more cynical

45:25

and silly, like okay, delusional self

45:27

like that's like you say that tongue in cheek, and then manifest

45:29

that's these a little more more gravitas. It's heavier,

45:32

so you're like, okay, it's more serious. It's the same idea.

45:35

There's also a time to know when you

45:37

want to talk about like things like flow state and ship where

45:39

it's like, okay, you also need to know what

45:42

the is going on to you can't just be crazy

45:45

and I'm gonna make because then there's that side,

45:47

which is like and by the way, it's people

45:50

who have no talent can have the ship that work

45:52

out for them.

45:53

That's the talent.

45:54

That's exactly.

45:56

Yeah, it's like great imposter syndrome.

45:58

And like real imposters, they don't have that syndrome,

46:01

you know what I'm saying, Like there's no like like

46:04

damn, he's fonte just like

46:07

scammers and ship like them. Niggas believe every

46:09

word they saying. They

46:11

have no disbelief in themselves. They

46:13

will lie like a motherfucker. So I yeah, imposter

46:15

syndrome.

46:16

That ain't believing it you have. Imposter syndrome

46:18

is almost like the insecurity that exists when you're

46:20

not exactly because you actually have a

46:22

conscience.

46:25

But also we're pre programmed as people

46:27

pleasers to like I gotta

46:29

seem humble out this thing.

46:31

I'm trying to lose that ship.

46:33

It fascinates me though, to see when

46:35

someone is capable of being borderline

46:38

sociopathics and not giving a ship

46:40

about how they come off and being crazy about

46:42

it because you're like wow, that is like

46:44

that would make me so uncomfortable.

46:47

I don't know, it's a hard thing to

46:49

learn, but basically, what I'm trying to get out of

46:51

you is. So there was a

46:53

moment where I felt like, Yo, we got a deal, everyone

46:56

grew great, it's awesome. And then

46:59

three weeks into it then I was

47:01

like, oh shit, this is not going to

47:03

work. And it took it

47:05

took five years to get me out

47:08

of the depression.

47:09

Of we're not going to make it.

47:10

But that's a big moment.

47:11

How did but how did you that?

47:13

We haven't gotten there yet in the story right, because

47:15

if you're successful now standing here today, every

47:18

single one of us has had a failure that they had to deal with a

47:20

big one, at least one big one.

47:23

And so yes, you

47:25

experience that first failure. You're riding high, you're

47:27

like, hey, we got this record deal, money,

47:30

fucking cheesecake, and

47:32

then all of a sudden in which

47:34

we all know, it all goes away and you're

47:36

like, oh shit, no more cheesecake, no more money, no

47:38

more, no more fame. I'm not going to go platinum,

47:41

you know. And how long start over?

47:42

How long was it until we got signed?

47:44

We were like seventeen eighteen, almost

47:46

eighteen. Our parents had to sign the contract. Fucking

47:48

awesome, it's just crazy crazy. They also had

47:50

sat in the room, so we graduated high

47:53

school, and I was like peace, like you

47:55

know, I'm over straight

47:57

to the road. And

48:01

then I would say by like December

48:04

of that year, graduating only the summertime,

48:06

early summer, and then by December it

48:08

was like, oh ship, this is not happening.

48:11

All right, it's done, and then it kind

48:13

of started unwrapling. So that moment was

48:15

like whoa, this is uh,

48:18

this fucked up because your dreams are

48:20

just dashed. Like you know how that it goes because

48:22

a minute the minute it's so fascinate you think

48:24

you're going somewhere and then you're not. And then back

48:26

then at least I don't know if it's the same thing now, but like once,

48:28

you're tainted in the record business. So

48:33

if we get anyone to like us again, to sign us,

48:35

it'll be really tough. Fortunately we kind of

48:37

did, but that moment is like, really

48:39

the water you made of moment?

48:41

How hard was it to change the name because

48:43

that's the moment where you realize that.

48:45

Stupid name so much. I hate all I

48:47

hate room, the name of Room five, I hate the name of cars Flowers,

48:49

I hate band damn band

48:51

names are stupid. All of us, all

48:54

of us get to be called the Roots, bro.

48:56

We were forced. We wanted to be square

48:59

rooms. Yeah, well to

49:01

go with the Roots was smart. Well

49:05

it's a great band name, is what I'm saying. How did you? How did

49:07

you come up with Carris Flowers and my room? Five?

49:09

Cars Flowers was easy? More than five. I

49:11

will never tell anybody. I told Billy Joel.

49:13

He knows.

49:14

Ask him.

49:15

We gotta get Joel.

49:16

We will at it. And he doesn't remember because really

49:20

had a few and didn't care.

49:22

It sounds like every day.

49:23

Yeah he was. I told him because

49:25

I knew for a fact, and

49:28

it's a very unremarkable story. Cars

49:31

Flowers is so dumb, I mean, like so

49:33

dumb because we were fifteen, so we

49:36

snuck out of the house. Our

49:38

boy, the drummer could drive. Our rummer could drive, so he, like

49:40

I had a big old wagoneer and

49:42

uh, we went to Norms on on

49:45

like LOSTI Inaga in West

49:47

Hollywood and you

49:49

know you're out and like your parents know you're gone,

49:51

and you're the norms getting steak and eggs for three

49:53

ninety nine and being a band and being

49:56

stupid norms bro. I mean, come

49:58

on, it's nasty.

49:58

You gotta it's great at one in

50:00

the morning.

50:01

Oh yeah, it was late night norms and we're

50:03

eating. We're like, we're gonna be in a band or be

50:05

fucking huge. We gotta get a name. It was that

50:07

time. So there's no better time

50:10

in your life than that those times. And uh

50:12

and then we were like, and we all loved this girl named

50:14

Kara. I don't know why, we just loved

50:16

it. God bless your car, you're amazing. So she

50:19

lived like north of Sunset,

50:21

like like right above the whiskey, like you know,

50:23

the whiskey was, yes, like right there, and

50:26

we like loved her for some reason, and

50:29

so we did our drummer like

50:31

wanted it.

50:32

He brought her.

50:32

We brought her flowers that night or something like. The recollection

50:35

of it is probably pretty hazy, but anyway

50:38

we were. And so we're back at his house and we're

50:40

like cars flowers.

50:41

It was kind of awesome.

50:43

And then like we played the whiskey for

50:45

our first gig and it said car flowers and like she

50:47

lived, you know, so.

50:50

So she was the Rosanna Arquets you guys,

50:52

is Toto exactly nice?

50:54

Oh sorry, y'all, I hate

50:57

to do this, but this is where

50:59

part one.

51:01

That's okay, Stay tuned next week or check

51:03

your podcast feed for part two of Quest

51:05

Love Supreme with Adam Levine.

51:08

Oh, and then that next one, he's going to talk about

51:10

some of those Maroon five songs that you know in

51:12

love and other collaborations.

51:14

Oh, plus he listened to some of his favorite albums

51:17

of all time.

51:18

And oh, y'all, just when

51:20

you think he doesn't get any better, a surprise

51:22

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51:25

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51:26

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51:29

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