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Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio.

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Do not attempt to adjust your

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dial, ladies and gentlemen. We're

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sort of passing on our normal

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roll called music, and I wanted

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to bring it back to my hometown of Philadelphia.

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If you are a Philadelphian, you know that

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this particular theme has

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some sort of sentimental meeting.

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If you're a watcher of w XTF Channel

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twenty nine, of course they use the

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world famous twilight

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instrumental from our guest today. What

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can I say this is, I

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know I've said we've done special episodes of

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Quest Love Supreme before, but this

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is probably super

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special. The first time I'm using

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the words in front of it. So, as

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you know, we are here in Los Angeles,

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California, doing this

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in person and not on the zoom. And

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the thing about where we're located is we're just

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kind of a stone's throwaway from the

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iconic Capitol Records building.

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When you think of that label, and if your love

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with music, you think of nat

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King Cole, the Beatles, and Beach Boys

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and Duran durand people pricing milk

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Boy, pat Shop Boys, Louverrawl's

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Natalie Cole. You know there's but for me

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in my childhood, when I think of that logo,

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especially the classic orange

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and brown logo spinning on the turntable,

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I think of our steam special

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guest today, and I will say

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that throughout my childhood when we talk

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about you get past the barbecue, you best

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believe that that barbecue is

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going to be somewhat scored

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in soundtracked by our guest

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today. You name the classics, we should know

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them all. They're national anthems, Golden

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Time of the Day, Southern Girl, joy,

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pain, feeling one

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dack and stride, silky

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soul, and of course you know the

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morning after.

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And silk.

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Not to mention the national anthem of

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life is before I let go

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right, you know, our guest is the

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definition of the barbecue, despite the fact

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that I've never seen him wear anything but

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the color white, and

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as a Philly native, it

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is only right that we bring

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our brother on the show to celebrate

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his life and celebrate his career, and we have his family

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with us. Ladies and gentlemen, please

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welcome to quest Loft Supreme the one and

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only, the legendary Frankie

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Beverly, along with his cousin

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Miss q, Miss Hugh and Will

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thank you. I don't even need

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my.

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Own clap.

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America.

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Can I just ask you, we and DC would appreciate

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if you to say Philadelphia and DC's own today.

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Yes, okay, see, thank

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you.

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Part of the running gag of the show is the fact

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that you know Layah often.

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Coach, which is where she's from today? You're from

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DC today?

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Yes, I have to wrap.

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Yes, okay, well I'm.

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From Philadelphia to day. But

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guess what You're from Philadelphia too?

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Okay? Anyway, we thank you so much

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for being on the show. Thank

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you.

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There's so much like I

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I want to know and I'm so overwhelmed right now because

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you are a hero to all of

3:29

us musically and whatnot.

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And I don't know, just thank you

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for being there. How are you today?

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It's beautiful. I'm glad to

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see you guys, you know, it's just

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wonderful.

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Thank you, Thank you so much.

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I guess what I would like to know is were

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you born in I'm claiming as

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my hometown.

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I was born in your hometown. Were you born in Philadelphia?

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Yes?

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What part of Philadelphia are you from?

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Born in North Philly?

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Okay, Jill wins not me grew

3:57

up.

3:58

A lot in Germantow okay,

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yeah, north side of things.

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I'm from West Villy, Yeah, okay, And

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I think gentrification now has

4:06

me saying that I grew up in Walnut Lane,

4:09

which they've recently called

4:11

it.

4:11

Yes, exactly when gingrification

4:14

comes through.

4:14

Yeah, I was once in the hood and then now

4:17

all of a sudden, University of Pen

4:19

has tooken over, so now we

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call it Walnut Lane.

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But I live in fifty second in oce Age.

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That's okay.

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What I mentioned like North Philadelphia.

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For you, what what can you

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describe to me about it?

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Well, I grew up there. I grew uptown then

4:36

near the Uptown Theater, Yes,

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around that area.

4:41

Where you often a witness of shows

4:43

there or watch

4:46

a lot of shows.

4:47

Absolutely to

4:49

go around there, watch

4:52

all gods of stuff. And then

4:55

I got older and moved

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up to Germantown and that's

4:59

where went to Wagner School.

5:03

Yeah, okay, Germantown

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High Okay.

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Black Thought and uh Frankie Beverley

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went to Germantown High.

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Yeah, shout out to Spawn too, who went

5:15

to Okay, yeah, okay,

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so rich related you went to Germantown High School?

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You know, were you at

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all in your beginnings

5:25

as as a singer. Were you more

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gospel based in like coming

5:30

through the church or were you do wopped?

5:33

Like what was your musical entry in both?

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I went to church a lot and sang. But

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once I got going in school,

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that's when the other stuff happened.

5:46

Other things came in my life, you

5:48

know. And I went

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to go uptown in North

5:53

Philly, and then

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I moved back up to Germantown later

5:58

on in my life and went to Wagner

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Junior High and went to Germantown

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School.

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How long did you stay in Philadelphia

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before you? Well, quite

6:13

a while, Okay, quite.

6:14

A while in my twenties.

6:17

So was Rossol formed

6:19

in Philadelphia or was

6:22

that your first band or I'm

6:24

trying to think.

6:25

That's a that's a good question. The

6:27

Butler's, well, the Butler's

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was before that?

6:32

Was that named after streets of Philadelphia?

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Were you? No?

6:37

Said, when you say Butler

6:39

to any Philadelphia, It's

6:41

like, oh God, no.

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It wasn't. I really don't

6:45

know where it came from, but the name came

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Butler's.

6:48

Okay, Yeah, I have to ask

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this question just for me. My father is

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also a du wop singer from Philadelphia.

6:56

So That's how I knew you,

6:58

know, of your music. He was

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in my father's Leandrews of Leandrews in

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the Hearts.

7:02

Is that right? Yeah? That so

7:05

oh I was a big plan.

7:07

Oh, thank you so much, thank you, thank you, thank

7:09

you.

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But like generally at the time, like

7:12

what was the musical environment of Phility, because

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you know, we often talk about the sound of Philadelphia

7:18

and people mostly think about like Gamble

7:20

and Heffrom what they've done in the seventies, but not

7:22

many people know that Philadelphia has a

7:24

and even richer tapestry

7:27

of music, do wop and you know, operate

7:32

like with everything.

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But for you, it's more

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than what most people think.

7:37

Philadelphia was big

7:39

time music, all

7:42

sorts of things. You know. I

7:44

got real tied into

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Frankie Lime.

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Was he your favorite singer?

7:49

He was one of them knowing you know, knowing

7:51

my young years, that was

7:53

real.

7:54

Big why you

7:56

went towards Frankie the name Frankie because Frankie

7:58

is not your first name.

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No, I did not

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know this.

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My name is Stanley.

8:04

I mean, I'm not my

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real.

8:09

My first name is Stamle Howard

8:13

Howard span Okay.

8:16

So Frankie was from Frankie Liman.

8:17

Yes, I

8:20

did not know that. Absolutely. He

8:23

started me going, what.

8:26

Was it about Frankie Lyman that you loved?

8:29

He could sing? Okay, he

8:32

could sing. He had a big impact

8:34

on me.

8:35

Going up, I was about

8:37

to say he had a big impact on all of

8:39

us, because even when

8:42

I was in first grade. So

8:44

I went to a performing arts school

8:46

in Philadelphia. First day

8:48

of school and our homework assignment was

8:50

bring in your favorite song or your favorite

8:53

forty five and

8:55

I brought in why do Fools Fall in

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Love? Because my

8:59

parents parents had tricked me. Okay,

9:02

my mom hates want to tell the story. My dad tricked

9:04

me into thinking that

9:07

do wop music was new music.

9:09

So I was in, this is nineteen seventy six.

9:12

So everyone else is bringing in the Beg's and Stevie

9:14

Wonder and whatnot, and I brought in

9:17

white a Fools Fall in Love and they were like, oh,

9:20

this was out when I was a little kid, and you know,

9:22

every adult was one hundred years old to me. So

9:25

I came home and then when my mom told

9:27

me, yes, this came out in like nineteen fifty

9:30

eight, and I thought that was like a

9:33

thousand years ago, like That's

9:35

when I realized there was a timeline on music, like

9:38

so I too loved White the Fool's

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Fall in Love and yeah, I

9:43

see that. Did you have brothers and sisters

9:45

that were in music as well? Like did you grow up in a musical

9:47

household?

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I mean my mother and father, my

9:52

brother sang, but not like I

9:54

did what I

9:56

got in the groups really young and

10:00

raw soul? Do you remember ra?

10:02

Yes, Yeah, I've seen on

10:05

YouTube right now. I mean there's like there's

10:07

a concert.

10:08

Of raw soul.

10:09

Oh yeah, like nineteen

10:12

I believe, like seventy five,

10:15

seventy six is live and it's

10:17

some I believe it's in

10:19

the Bay Area or whatever, like it's just

10:22

right before it's Frankly Beverly Mazes

10:25

raw Soul, and like for

10:27

me, like the audience, the audience reaction

10:29

was the most exciting part of watching.

10:31

That as raw

10:33

soul.

10:34

How are you guys able to get

10:36

that exciting reaction from the crowd

10:38

without having I would assume did

10:42

they have singles and a record deal

10:44

before you guys transferred to

10:46

Maze or.

10:47

We made little records before

10:50

Mays came. Yeah,

10:53

Mays came along when went

10:55

to California, Okay, while

10:58

I was in Philly, it was I

11:00

can't even remember.

11:01

The name Russel.

11:03

Was it wrong? Yeah, it was wrong, So

11:05

that's true. Yeah. But

11:08

but at the Philly was my teacher.

11:12

I had a lot of good people, a

11:15

lot of good acts out of Philly, a lot of the time

11:17

of the people. So yeah,

11:20

it was a great place to be. Oh,

11:23

A lot of what I am today to

11:26

that.

11:28

Good, great well, that town appreciates

11:30

you.

11:31

I mean, I guess the story of how

11:34

Maze came into my life, so

11:37

I did. I never knew the story

11:39

of like Marvin Gaye seeing

11:42

you guys and discovering you guys

11:45

until when I heard Silky Soul. Then

11:48

I heard the backstory and whatnot about

11:50

you paying tribute to him. But could you talk

11:53

about like how Marvin Gaye's

11:55

presence sort of changed.

11:57

Though you can

12:00

imagine. I mean, he

12:02

didn't meet him at that stage,

12:06

and he was such

12:08

a like a big brother to

12:10

me. He used to let us

12:12

open shows coming

12:15

up.

12:15

You know, what do you think that it was

12:17

that he saw in you guys that

12:20

made it special.

12:22

We were a group okay.

12:25

We were a group, was about five

12:27

of us or something. We were

12:30

young guys, but we could sing

12:33

yeah, and he liked that. Actually

12:36

did a Christmas kind of.

12:38

Thing, Okay, Christmas

12:40

Holiday, Christmas Hold, and.

12:43

He got involved and helpless to

12:45

do that. And I was so young,

12:48

you know, but he was

12:50

a good guy man, marvelous.

12:55

Wow, really changed my

12:58

life. Got it going and

13:02

my mother and then loved.

13:03

Them that they did.

13:07

It's Marvin Marvin Day.

13:10

That's right.

13:16

How would you describe the sound of

13:19

Maze because it's really

13:22

hard to describe. I mean, yes, we

13:24

could say soul music, but

13:26

there's something about the

13:28

texture of that that really speaks to black

13:32

folks in a way that you know, if

13:34

we could figure out the formula, I'm

13:36

sure that all of us would try to

13:39

copy it and apply it.

13:40

But it's really hard to tell.

13:42

Like, what's interesting, I've

13:44

never heard anybody, but I think

13:46

you're absolutely right. It's being

13:49

from Philadelphia has

13:51

a big thing with that. Philly

13:54

had a lot of talent.

13:56

Was there was there any moment or any

13:58

time period that you guys ever

14:01

thought about or wanted to record at

14:04

Philadelphia International, like with Kenny

14:06

Gamble and Leon Huff like to be a part of

14:08

the Philadelphia International system.

14:11

At that time. I was so young, no

14:13

Okay, I mean I wasn't

14:17

old enough to be chipping on on

14:19

that. But

14:21

then then I moved to California

14:24

and that whole thing changed. I

14:27

got out there and I

14:30

still didn't sign with him, but I

14:32

got close to him. And

14:36

he's always helped me a little bit too. Yeah,

14:40

gamble, Yeah,

14:42

he's always been a big help

14:45

to me.

14:46

What was it like watching the

14:48

beginnings of his journey and this

14:51

sort of slow rising of his

14:54

sound?

14:55

Like?

14:55

What was it like, ass family members watching this?

14:58

Exciting? It was exciting because

15:00

we saw the work that he put in.

15:04

It was rewarding

15:07

for him and for the family because

15:10

we have a musical family, and

15:14

of course not to the extent that

15:16

Frankie has made it, but saw

15:20

the work that he did,

15:23

the long nights, the endless

15:25

nights. I should say that

15:28

he kept going. He kept

15:30

going, and he knew what he wanted to

15:32

do. He never wanted to do anything

15:35

else but sing and play

15:37

his music. So that's what

15:41

I saw. I saw somebody

15:43

that was just determined and

15:46

that determination paid

15:48

off, and he loved what he did.

15:51

It was a passion there, Okay, the

15:53

passion. He was passionate about his music.

15:56

He loved to write and

15:58

I asked him this many times a

16:00

long time ago.

16:01

He loved to talk about love. Love

16:04

is his go to word.

16:07

You're right, yeah, go

16:09

to word.

16:10

And he loved to talk back. Then

16:12

he with the uprise

16:15

of all types of things going

16:17

on with the world, he started

16:20

to think about those things too, and he talked

16:22

about how like, oh.

16:24

This is horrible, I'm gonna go write a song

16:26

about this.

16:28

And so that's how he came to

16:30

that we are one people

16:32

coming together instead of being a part.

16:35

So he absolutely

16:37

started to feel about

16:39

or start to feel how people were feeling

16:42

about their own lives and what

16:44

about this. We should be as one, we should be helping

16:46

these other people. So that's what

16:49

I saw. I saw him just work hard and

16:51

think about what other people were going through and

16:54

just thinking.

16:54

About the love. That's really who he is, the person

16:56

of love.

16:57

So would you say that songwriting was

17:00

therapeutic for you in

17:02

terms of expressing yourself? Yes,

17:05

absolutely, yeah, because I'll say

17:07

that love like oftentimes

17:10

I think people will tend to type

17:12

cast soul music

17:14

and R and B as somewhat

17:17

like meaningless love music or whatever. But I

17:19

don't know, I think coming from you, especially

17:22

the way you sing, there's such

17:24

a gentle comforting, right,

17:27

yeah, And it's such a gentle Normally, gentle

17:29

singers are are like

17:31

like high, like falsetto smoky

17:35

stylistics, and so it's

17:38

very rare to hear a

17:40

baritone voice that's that gentle

17:42

and that sort of thing.

17:45

I appreciate it.

17:46

Well, I'm

17:48

reflecting to you what I'm

17:51

only showing you what you are.

17:53

But yeah, like in the sixties

17:55

and seventies, when most

17:59

lead singers were high

18:02

falsetto.

18:03

Hi voices, whatever.

18:05

For you, was there was that ever an option

18:07

like to figure out because sometimes like Ronald Eisley

18:10

will.

18:10

Go between his high voice

18:12

and his little voice. But for you, was there No.

18:14

I never thought of that. Oh okay,

18:16

I was gonna be the singer.

18:20

All right, Yeah, the approachable

18:22

every day guy. Okay, I get that.

18:25

And that's what he really was. Approachable. That's

18:27

a that's a good term, approachable.

18:30

I see that.

18:31

Yeah, he was approachable. What do you What

18:33

was I think?

18:34

What do you think? Now?

18:35

You know what I was just thinking? I was like, yeah, because

18:38

I was thinking about awards, and I

18:40

was thinking about like these Grammys and these all

18:42

these awards, and I was like to my recollection. You

18:44

guys don't have a lot of those. But the

18:47

acceptance of you in the community, and I seen you speak

18:49

about this.

18:50

Before far exceeds.

18:52

So that everyday manism that you're talking

18:54

about, it's worth so much more,

18:56

it looks like than the

18:59

untouched it right.

19:03

Yeah, we that's very

19:05

true, honey. It seems like

19:08

our people really

19:10

supported us, even from

19:12

a young stage, as.

19:14

Much as we could.

19:15

Yes.

19:15

Yeah, no, I've been

19:17

to I've had the privilege attendant on one

19:19

of your shows. You came to my hometown at

19:21

Raleigh, North Carolina. This was this was some years

19:24

back, and y'all played this amphitheater. It

19:26

was outside and I

19:28

mean you came out and it was

19:30

full of people and they sang every

19:33

word.

19:33

They sang every word. I was like, if Frank

19:36

you want to chill the night. He didn't got the same.

19:38

We gonna sing form, you know what I mean?

19:40

But I think, you know, speaking of what like he was

19:42

saying, just you know, I just want to make sure that

19:44

we communicate to you today. You know,

19:46

you were just a staple in

19:49

our households, you know what I'm saying.

19:50

Like your music was like always there.

19:52

And it was, and it was oftentimes too.

19:55

It wasn't just your music was there, but your music was

19:57

the soundtrack to some of the best times of our lives.

20:00

It's like you.

20:00

Always associated I always associated

20:03

Frankie, Beverly and Maids with good times,

20:05

you know what I'm saying. And like what

20:07

you were saying about him singing with love we need

20:09

love to live. That was like one of my favorites. So like

20:11

I would always play that. I even a

20:14

very long time ago, I said it was like, Wow,

20:16

I sampled it and wrapped over it did not come

20:18

out.

20:20

I was sixteen.

20:21

Yeah, Shine,

20:24

Golden Time of the Day

20:27

was the original music the Clones. Oh

20:30

my god, if you can ever imagine, Wow,

20:32

but we couldn't make the loop work and so then we

20:34

start all over again.

20:36

Yeah, but but no, no, you

20:38

it was just always a spirit that came through in your

20:40

music and just really spoke

20:43

just to all of us and just made us all feel

20:45

really good. And you know, I've

20:47

seen it, just the magic of you performing

20:49

and people.

20:50

You know, it's like your family member.

20:52

Yeah, that's it's

20:54

so beautiful.

20:55

You guys gonna make me start crying.

21:00

This is called the Frankie Beverley takes

21:03

his flowers today.

21:05

That's what it is.

21:07

You know, I'm curious about because

21:09

now we live in a time when bands are almost

21:13

non existent. I come from a

21:15

band of eleven members

21:17

that like, I mean, it's just you're you're

21:20

You're hard pressed to find any bands

21:23

existing today.

21:24

But can I ask you, like.

21:26

At times in your mind is

21:28

it easier fronting a band

21:31

or did you ever imagine

21:33

a life from which you were just a solo artist

21:35

by yourself, without like Frankie,

21:37

Beverly and Maze.

21:38

Like always

21:42

part of it. Never

21:45

thought of myself it's a single actor

21:50

ever.

21:51

Say, at no point were you just like hey, I

21:53

like.

21:54

No, oh, it was very

21:56

moved by Frankie Lahman and the.

21:58

Te Okay, so you're aways wanted to be

22:00

in a band context. I see

22:02

that for you.

22:04

Do you have any memories of like how

22:06

you write songs or how our ideas

22:09

come to you?

22:10

Even today, I write songs that

22:13

that I want to sing about,

22:15

you know, I want to say

22:18

things that I think people want to hear.

22:20

Well, I have a question about one particular

22:22

song, which is the National Anthem, because

22:24

this is just hitting me right now.

22:26

This is the happiest breakup song.

22:28

Yeah.

22:28

I literally

22:30

when he said that, when he said

22:32

that I was going through the I said, wait a minute,

22:35

that's what I'm saying.

22:35

Like, even it's the happiest breakup song,

22:38

it still makes.

22:38

Us you

22:44

better get on that act, right.

22:53

Yeah, I'm afraid to ask,

22:56

like was that based on it?

22:57

Like do you write from real life experiences?

22:59

Or I have friends that write they'll express

23:01

where their friends aren't able to express, or his

23:04

experiences.

23:04

But you know that song, I

23:06

don't I remember, right, but I

23:09

don't. I

23:11

don't remember what motivated

23:15

you forgot.

23:18

But then again, some of the some of the biggest hits ever

23:21

are just like afterthoughts, you

23:23

know what I.

23:23

Mean, Yeah, something something

23:25

happened. Maybe maybe it was

23:28

some thing I was in

23:30

I was some it.

23:35

Well then you know, because the thing

23:37

is is that that song is on the

23:40

live album and there's

23:43

only two other studio cuts on there. So

23:45

I oftentimes I'll ask

23:47

X, like when they

23:50

stick an extra song or two on

23:52

the Greatest Hits or the live album, and

23:54

they always say, oh, it was just an afterthought, like we didn't

23:56

put much deep thought into it, just on

23:58

there, and it became an anthem.

24:00

Were you shocked? Were you shocked

24:02

at how that song was received?

24:05

And won't go away?

24:06

Ever? I think

24:08

I was shocked how that song

24:10

took off. Okay, that's

24:13

a good point. I mean

24:15

I liked the song, but I

24:18

was blown away about how it

24:21

how the people liked it so much?

24:23

Has there ever been a

24:26

franky Beverly show in which.

24:30

You don't perform that song? And is there.

24:35

Home?

24:35

Look, Nirvana spent

24:37

a whole year never playing smells

24:39

like teen Spirit like some different.

24:42

Crown these aunties, and you

24:44

don't happy feeling?

24:45

We got dress you want to hear before

24:48

I let go? Period? Is

24:51

that a lot? Right?

24:52

No, that's that's true, honey.

24:54

Yeah, y'all mentioning songs

24:56

that people still want to hear it now, right.

24:59

But there's no songs like that you can skip,

25:01

like a mir said, you can't skip happy feelings at

25:03

a show you want to sing it.

25:06

How did y'all decide on the name made for

25:08

the band?

25:09

That's that is a good question because

25:12

I like ros Soul too, But like, why

25:15

was it Lark and Arnold or is someone that capital?

25:17

That was just like no, no, no, no, it

25:19

was it was bam, it was well,

25:22

I can tell you that Marvin gated

25:24

like ras soul.

25:26

He did.

25:30

What did he feel was didn't sound

25:32

just ordinary to him?

25:33

Or well he just thought I need

25:35

to change, you know, and

25:38

they find a little better name.

25:40

For I just remember

25:42

being a kid, and you know my aunt she would

25:44

have y'all albums and it was always.

25:46

Try to solve that. I actually would try to do too.

25:49

I used to get down cover and try to solve the

25:51

maids. Like.

25:52

No, it didn't get in trouble for writing on her

25:54

album cover, but it was worth

25:56

it.

26:01

Like we have our favorites of

26:03

yours as far as your songs are concerned.

26:06

But what songs are

26:08

your favorite in your catalog? Like what,

26:10

What's Near? And Dear to your heart?

26:13

Boy?

26:14

Just about all of them? I did? I

26:17

mean if I recording

26:20

them, they meant something too. They

26:22

got me in there your kids.

26:25

So it's hard to pick a favorite one

26:28

one that you like more.

26:29

Than the other or oh

26:31

no, I don't like none

26:34

of them more than all

26:36

of them.

26:39

Yeah, I thought it was a it's

26:42

a blessing, you know when

26:44

you do when you're a writer and you that's

26:47

a blessing. It comes

26:50

from a man above, whether

26:52

it be me or whoever you

26:54

know, like Stevie Wonder

26:57

and people like you know, they must

27:00

be the same thing for them.

27:02

When you're a writer and you come

27:05

with this one thing after another

27:08

that comes from from the major

27:10

place.

27:12

From another s vessel.

27:14

Yeah, of all your

27:17

albums, is there a favorite one of yours

27:20

that you love more than?

27:22

If?

27:22

I can't get you one song?

27:26

Love them?

27:27

Okay, I'm a remix this question.

27:28

All right, this is my question. If there was a way

27:30

for you not to have to sing one of these songs

27:32

that you're always singing at every single show,

27:35

which song would you be like, Oh, I'm

27:37

so happy I don't have to sing that tonight.

27:39

I love it.

27:40

I'm tired. Well

27:42

wait a minute, yeah, yeah,

27:45

don't throw off the bag.

27:48

I mean, because these are songs you've been singing for a long

27:50

time, and I'm just like you never

27:53

get tired of. Just come

27:55

on before I'll let you go.

27:56

I'm tired.

27:58

Yeah, sing it for him. That's true that

28:02

I've seen it, like, it's so like

28:04

he.

28:04

It was a show you came to.

28:06

You came to Raley and uh Mint Condition

28:08

was opening and so men

28:11

condition. Oh it was a great show, and you

28:13

know you were doing your songs and everybody

28:16

I mean like literally, like the whole empathis he

28:21

could have put he would have danced, he could do

28:23

the step, he could have ate chicken, he could do whatever.

28:26

It was over like that they had him and you.

28:29

Another thing that I was curious

28:31

to know if and if y'all can add on this as

28:33

well. You know, the thing that's so

28:35

amazing to me about your legacy is

28:37

that you've been able to tour like people.

28:40

A lot of times with black artists, we have

28:42

to, Okay, if you want to go on tour, you got to have a new

28:44

album out or what.

28:45

New you got?

28:46

What got There's always this kind of pressure

28:48

to feed the machine in order to

28:50

be able to tour whatever. And you

28:53

are always an example if I'm like, look, Frankie

28:55

Beverley ain't put out a new record in

28:57

how many years? But people show up for him

29:00

every time. You know what I'm saying,

29:02

every time? You know what I mean, what do you

29:04

attribute to that longevity?

29:06

God that I wish I

29:08

was that smart, but

29:11

no, it's it just is what it

29:14

is, and that's what

29:16

I do.

29:17

You know, I have a question, what part

29:19

of.

29:21

The United States do you feel is

29:23

like your biggest

29:26

fan base. Yes, I mean I figured

29:29

New Orleans because that's where you made the record.

29:31

However, I've learned that you

29:34

know, Asville, North Carolina also has a great

29:36

audience, and and Oakland

29:38

has a great audience.

29:39

So for you, like what what?

29:41

What are you the favorite cities of yours that

29:43

you've toured throughout the years most

29:47

of them?

29:48

Mm hmmm.

29:51

I think this is why you're a success.

29:53

Because you.

29:57

Can say d is okay?

30:00

Uh no, I

30:02

was that's one of them.

30:05

I think you know all of

30:07

the major cities,

30:09

all of them. I mean, I.

30:11

Can't

30:15

where we are, where we are and where we have passion.

30:17

I'm telling you it's it's it's

30:19

amazing to me. I'm

30:21

blown away by it too. I

30:24

don't know what.

30:26

Excuse me, what is the white thing?

30:27

What is the questions?

30:31

What is

30:33

the inspiration behind wearing so much white?

30:35

Yeah? When did that become a thing?

30:37

Oh?

30:37

I didn't.

30:38

I don't think I've been chipped on that.

30:40

I think I

30:43

was told to do that. None

30:45

of the people who's making my clothes saw

30:49

any different than that. You know, they all

30:51

suggested the same thing

30:54

I was wearing all the time. Yeah,

30:57

So some somehow they thought

30:59

I'd need to stay

31:01

in that google that U was

31:04

always in.

31:05

And if you saw some of his earlier outfits

31:08

in the earlier years, he would wear red, all

31:11

red, really all black.

31:15

And then he just stuck with it all white. But back

31:17

in the day it was all red red

31:19

hat, yes.

31:21

Because back into video that was definitely not a

31:23

white out that was a white outfit time.

31:25

Yeah, yeah, yeah,

31:28

yeah, I don't know too much else.

31:31

I've done nothing crazy,

31:34

you know.

31:36

Right, Okay, you're right, I'm looking right now.

31:39

I did go on Soul Train to see and you're

31:42

wearing.

31:42

All red right here.

31:46

But with the hat though, yes, and

31:49

the beard. I didn't know you from Philly, and then

31:52

you know, your beard was like.

31:55

A beard.

31:55

So he

31:58

asked the question.

32:00

I think it was that that was back in the

32:02

early eighties and he was

32:04

actually in LA

32:07

when he did this show. And on

32:10

that show he asked having

32:12

a conversation with the audience out there,

32:15

and they said, I understand

32:17

that you all think that I'm bold,

32:19

right, because right

32:22

right, But he says, I he

32:25

pulls off the hat and he says, I'm not bald,

32:27

y'all.

32:28

This is just a Philly thing.

32:29

Philadelphians wear hats, so that

32:32

was a good moment for him.

32:33

Actually, wait, all right, so this

32:36

is a Philadelphia question, and

32:40

you know, I grew up with

32:42

a lot of uncles. My dad almost

32:44

went through this phase, and of

32:46

course, you know we knew the

32:49

Sphinx family and all that stuff.

32:50

Did you ever go through the urban

32:53

cowboy phase?

32:54

You mean the stables or in the stables

32:57

over in the West Philly, are you talking about, Well, you're

32:59

talking about that kind of phase with all the kids

33:01

were going well.

33:02

No, no, no, just there was a period in like seventy

33:05

six seventy seven in

33:07

which the entire like all black

33:10

men were just dressing up as cowboys.

33:12

Tight jeans and a cowboy. Yeah.

33:27

It was just.

33:30

Now my mother and my family would have been

33:32

jumping out.

33:33

Over Is

33:37

there anything that

33:40

you have yet to creatively

33:43

achieve or embarkle on that

33:45

you would like to do that

33:47

you haven't done yet.

33:49

I'm trying to figure out, like your your other talents

33:51

as well. I mean, besides singer,

33:54

songwriter, producer.

33:56

There's some stages we're gonna go. Yeah,

34:01

there's some things.

34:03

Anytime I've seen you, it's been in the United States.

34:05

But has what is his is

34:08

worldwide?

34:10

Yeah, he has the same thing, right,

34:15

Yeah, everywhere likes us

34:17

just like Yeah, he's toward.

34:21

Europe in London, Paris,

34:24

yeah, Japan.

34:26

If you've been Africa, you know, have

34:28

been.

34:28

Africa, Yeah, yeah, we haven't

34:31

done a bunch of Africa.

34:32

South Africa would love y'all like y'all.

34:37

Well, I think it used to be a jazz

34:40

fest in Cape Town and now

34:42

y'all would I think y'a would kill it long

34:45

overdue.

34:46

Before you were at I do have one question. I'm

34:48

certain that you're tired of answering this question. What

34:51

was your.

34:51

Feeling on Beyonce covering

34:54

before I let go and the

34:56

reception that the

34:58

world gave it.

34:59

I was blown away with it and

35:01

what he told me when then when they were

35:03

approached, we were approached about Beyonce doing

35:05

that. He respected her and

35:09

he had a good relationship with jay

35:11

Z and Beyonce and

35:13

so that he thought it

35:16

from what our discussion was, he

35:18

thought that she would do it justice and

35:21

it would bring forth a whole new generation

35:24

of people knowing his music.

35:27

So she didn't play it for you first. They

35:29

didn't ask you for like had the song right now They.

35:31

Didn't play it well.

35:33

You know that's that that song is a mighty

35:35

mountain to climb, so you know, and

35:39

you know, I will just say that, you

35:41

know you you have provided us

35:44

with such a

35:46

timeless, beautiful soundtrack that

35:49

you know will will never go away,

35:51

will be here forever. You know, you're you're,

35:53

you're the original feel good music. And you know

35:56

I want to thank you just for stopping.

35:58

By and saying hello to us.

36:00

Man, thank you for all the years of music

36:02

and times and everything.

36:04

All my joy, my

36:06

joy and I love we felt

36:09

it.

36:09

Yeah, I really do appreciate it.

36:11

You know you're gonna make

36:13

me cry.

36:16

You're gonna make us cry

36:21

never stop.

36:22

No, but thank you.

36:23

Thank you for coming on the show, and thank you for taking

36:25

your flowers and you

36:27

know, more flowers for Biel

36:29

Sherman. Yes, that's

36:32

all feels there to make sure that everyone gets

36:34

flowers.

36:35

Frankie, Beverly, ladies.

36:36

And gentlemen, the best cousins in the world.

36:39

Yes, thank

36:42

you all.

36:42

Right, and on behalf of you know, Fan

36:44

Ciccolo, Sugar, Steve Unpay

36:46

built this long giant applause. Thank

36:51

you guys so much for coming to visiting us, and

36:54

we'll see you on the next go round, of course, Love Supree

36:56

fine, beautiful.

36:57

Thank you.

36:59

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