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some Steve Bruce content that's never
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been heard before on the main feed. In
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full, here comes chapter one. It will have
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the first few chapters of
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the first Steve Bruce book striker
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over the next few weeks until
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the new series starts. Because as
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promised, lots of subscribers have been asking
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this, will we be finishing the third
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Steve Bruce book? And I can reveal
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on the quickly Kevin fan club, starting
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at the very end of this month,
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we'll be dropping in all the chapters
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necessary to complete the Steve Bruce murder
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mystery trilogy, which is really exciting. Matt
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Ford will be joining us as we
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finish off the Steve
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Bruce Odyssey that we've been on for
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so many years. So enjoy this is
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chapter one. And as I record this
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now, there's just a few tickets left
2:42
for that last show at the London
2:44
Playdoom on Thursday, the 16th of May.
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The link for tickets is in the
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description of this episode. We'd love you
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to be there. We're booking guests for
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that night and it is going to
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be spectacular. We're gonna go out with
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a bang Thursday, 16th of May at
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the London Playdoom. Get your tickets now.
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All right. So here
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we go in full chapter one of
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Striker. What can I say? Just
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enjoy this. Shouldn't
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you be at work? Anderson
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off the line by Wegerley and turned in
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by Bruce. The bracket gets the
3:19
corner in Bruce. Top corner.
3:21
Bruce arriving and Bruce scoring. No,
3:26
it's gonna be Brian Robson. Loading in there. Steve
3:28
Bruce, it's enough. Sharp
3:31
gets another go. 2D, Kai runs and
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Steve Bruce scores. So
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now you'll swing against Steve Bruce and
3:40
Bruce wins it and United are ahead.
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Now you know him better than anybody probably. You're
3:45
back into score 50, yes or no? Yes.
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Oh, it happens. No. No. Hello
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and welcome to quickly Kevin Willheath. score
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it's a Steve Bruce striker
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chapter one special edition I'm
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Chris Gold joining me Josh
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Whitacom and the man
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who is about to pour through 12
4:11
to 14 chapters of the worst
4:13
literary work
4:16
ever created by a premier I'd say
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your inability to find the word really
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sums up what we're about to so
4:27
you I'm sure you're aware before
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if you have subscribed to this
4:31
that we have covered briefly
4:34
it turns out the Steve
4:36
Bruce crime trilogy novels however
4:39
we basically we re-listened to the
4:41
first episode and we didn't
4:43
go we only talked for about 40
4:46
minutes about a book that has so
4:48
many highlights and we wanted
4:50
to revisit it and then we thought surely
4:52
you know this is the most popular thing
4:54
we've ever done the only way to do
4:56
it is to revisit it properly in the
4:58
fullest possible sense so each episode
5:00
we'll be going for a chapter we
5:03
are joined by the original reader of
5:05
the book Ivo Graham we'll
5:07
be going in for a chapter by
5:09
chapter month by month until we've done
5:11
the full trilogy it is a three-year
5:13
project I just got to say
5:15
as well like we when we did
5:17
that we were like we have just burned
5:20
this entire gold mine to the ground yeah
5:22
actually there's so much in there and in
5:24
preparation for this episode I read chapter one
5:26
I was like oh my
5:28
word there is so much more
5:30
in this yeah because Chris and I had never
5:32
read it so we were sort of basing it
5:34
on what you and Ivo had pulled out yeah
5:37
and I was cynical I'll hold my hands up
5:39
when Chris said like we'll do a chapter at
5:41
time I thought I will burn through three chapters
5:43
like quickly no problem no
5:45
I mean in this episode we'll find
5:47
out about Michael writing to a whole
5:49
team to get the signed
5:52
postcards back we would not have had that
5:54
chat without diving deep into this episode we
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will be reading it in full because audio
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books are now the you know,
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they're as popular as they've ever been, by
6:03
which I mean they're more popular than they've ever
6:05
been. And so we'll be going through it, we'll
6:07
be reading it, talking about it as
6:09
we go. If you follow this journey, these
6:11
books are thousands of pounds, there's one for
6:13
6,000 pounds on eBay because it was signed
6:15
by Steve Bruce. This
6:17
is the only place where you can hear all
6:20
of the books in sequence read
6:22
out with us making snow in the side.
6:26
But we get a lot of correspondence about Steve
6:28
Bruce. Where better to cover it than
6:30
in our Steve Bruce only electronic post
6:32
bag. I'm
6:36
Jim Rosenkraut and this is the
6:39
electronic post bag. You've
6:41
got mail. Ryan
6:43
Leviton, now we're talking about poems in
6:45
our Zoom Live show. He's written a
6:48
poem about Steve Barnes called Pride of
6:50
Leggersford. Would you like this poem? Oh
6:52
yes. Yes. Can we have some kind
6:54
of, well, hear the poem and then
6:56
you can judge the music afterwards, Michael,
6:58
and consider whether it's worth any. He
7:06
used to play for Mollcaster, setting the
7:08
offside trap, the greatest centre half in
7:10
England, not to win an England cap.
7:13
Now he's into management and driving an XJ8.
7:16
A promotion push and crimes to serve, he has
7:18
plenty on his plate. Pat
7:20
Duffy's in the changing room, the poor
7:22
lad's lying dead, Eddie Carbury the culprit,
7:24
but Steve Barnes is step ahead. A
7:27
dead janitor discovered Barnes' hands begin
7:29
to clam. A quicksam yielded
7:32
50 years. You've had
7:34
a good spell, Sam. A
7:36
cash-hungry translator with a blatant coup
7:38
for power, while Barnes
7:40
is touring Rio like a letters for
7:42
Jack Bauer. So
7:44
Lawrence is a wealthy man, the bills are racking up
7:47
by now. Another OJ at the
7:49
hotel in a quest to
7:51
find Cabral. A
7:54
trilogy of capers and nostalgic bonanza
7:57
is all elaborate ruse to name
7:59
Jack Steffer. If
8:01
you haven't read the Trinity then you definitely
8:04
should. He may be crass, he
8:06
may be cringe, but he's the pride
8:08
of letters foot. Oh, lovely. And it
8:10
rhymes. Isn't that a lovely start? And it
8:12
rhymes. That is lovely. Bruce your component in
8:14
any poem to me. Absolutely,
8:17
Chris. Loves a rhyming poem. Has
8:20
to rhyme. Has to rhyme. Now,
8:23
there's been a lot of debate over whether
8:25
Steve Bruce wrote the books. We will probably
8:27
come to a conclusion in three years time.
8:30
Although I'm coming round to the idea that he
8:32
did. We've been sent from
8:35
Neil Sorrie a 30 second
8:38
clip of the Back
8:40
of the Net Amazon show in
8:42
which Peter Crouch asks Steve Bruce
8:44
about his writing career. Would you like to
8:46
hear the latest from
8:49
Steve Bruce? I've been dabbling in the book
8:51
world recently. You've
8:54
got a couple of strikers. I
8:57
had this wonderful, weird and wonderful idea a few years ago.
9:04
And apparently, at the time, they were
9:06
an absolute disaster. But
9:09
then people got a hold of them, quite enjoyed them. I
9:12
don't know where they are now. Well, I can tell you
9:14
actually, there's one striker is
9:16
going on Amazon for a thousand
9:18
pounds. I realize the collectors
9:20
are. I've
9:22
been on the hundred when I get home and
9:24
I've got a few in the drawer. I couldn't give them
9:26
away at the time. Do
9:29
you think he wrote them? He
9:31
did. 100% done. Case
9:34
closed. Case closed. Yeah. This
9:37
case is closed. Okay. Well, one final thing on Steve
9:39
Bruce. On a vacation
9:41
with my wife in the beautiful Western
9:43
Isles this summer, there I was on
9:45
sunny day in Stornway shopping for Black
9:47
Pudding and Harris Tweed. When I noticed
9:49
a sadly closed classic independent sports shop.
9:52
Not to worry. Later reading confirms Sportsworld and
9:55
Francis Street shot in March 2020 due to
9:57
COVID and reopened in new premises. A
10:00
two-story building I look up to see some posters
10:02
in the window. Much to my
10:04
utter delight, there he was. Steve
10:06
Bruce. Two
10:08
faded mid-90s Steve Bruce posters
10:11
advertising Mitre. To make Mitre even
10:14
better in a classic 90s town,
10:16
the posters don't make any sense.
10:19
Both are similar in style with ever so
10:21
slightly jaunty head angle. Do you know what? Rather
10:23
than have them described by email, I'll send
10:25
you this photo Chris and Michael. So this
10:27
is what he looked up to see in the
10:29
window. Look at these. We'll put it on
10:31
our Instagram. I just want to discuss how
10:33
this is still there. Oh wow. Isn't
10:36
that amazing? They must be from 1992, 93. Yeah.
10:41
Wow. Steve Bruce in a Mitre
10:43
sweatshirt holding a Mitre Ultimax. They're
10:45
blocking up a window like it's
10:47
a kind of squat. Yeah. But
10:49
they must have been there for 25 years. Yes,
10:52
it's a poster of Steve Bruce that's
10:55
been in a window single
10:57
glazed for over 20 years.
11:00
It's amazing. What a time capsule. It's amazing
11:02
to think that if the world ended that
11:05
would be around for maybe millennia. This
11:09
was August the 10th,
11:11
2020 on the island of
11:13
Stornoway. That is from James Fowler. That's
11:15
amazing. He says, PS, you should really write
11:17
to the owners and ask for those posters. Yes,
11:19
please. Mitre have got
11:21
some bang for their buck with that bit of
11:24
marketing campaign, haven't they? I wonder what that, how
11:26
much that cost? The
11:29
bloke who put that poster in that window thought that's going
11:31
to be up there for 20 years,
11:33
25 years. You know, when you see
11:36
like an advert on a tube for the
11:38
film that's closed like three months ago, anything
11:40
bloody hell, they're struggling to sell that. Yeah.
11:43
It's just been there for 25 years without being
11:45
replaced. If you want to get
11:47
in touch with anything Steve Bruce related, this is how. Get
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in touch with the show. Email hello
11:54
at quicklykevin.com. Follow
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11:59
Kevin. and sign up to
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the mailing list at quicklykevin.com Now,
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quite simply, here it is. Striker
12:09
by Steve Bruce, Chapter
12:11
One, in full. Hello,
12:15
Ivo Graham. They
12:18
say you should never go back. LAUGHTER
12:24
So I think what this came from
12:26
was we re-listened to,
12:29
separately, the first Striker
12:31
episode, and
12:33
I couldn't believe how little we'd said about
12:35
it. How long is it, Michael? That
12:37
first... The episode is under
12:40
an hour? The entire episode, and that's
12:42
with correspondences. Under
12:44
an hour. There's probably 40-something minutes of
12:47
it. This is mad. Because
12:49
it's the best of the Steve Barnes books,
12:52
and we just thought we didn't talk
12:54
about enough. I remember one of my
12:57
most vivid memories of recording all of
12:59
them was of... Because
13:02
we were having such a lovely time, and because
13:04
we were all just desperate to get our favourite,
13:06
just constantly going, oh, no, they're just losing a
13:09
paragraph, which I was ready to hold up as
13:12
the definitive bit of Steve Barnes' writing.
13:14
So what we wanted to do is we wanted to...
13:17
Take a very different approach. Yeah, and re-visit
13:19
all of the books, and read them
13:21
word for word and discuss them with
13:24
the reverence and detail
13:27
that they deserve. And don't forget,
13:29
me and Michael haven't read them in full. We've
13:32
only seen it through your
13:35
eyes. And I haven't read
13:37
Striker, obviously. Obviously. I
13:42
can't speak for Ivo, but I'm going to. We
13:44
haven't read Striker since 2017
13:47
when we read it. And
13:49
it's not likely you're going to pick up a
13:51
copy. These go for a thousand pounds of pop
13:53
on eBay. They're rare. So This
13:55
is an opportunity, a rare opportunity to really
13:58
find out what is in these books. Okay,
14:00
so here we go. This. Is.
14:03
Striker. By. Steve Bruce.
14:12
Bright. Red blood on the nice flight.
14:15
The. Nice in my hand. Duffy's.
14:18
Dead bodies stretched out on the locker room
14:20
floor. And. Capital. That.
14:22
Think of we have considered. I
14:25
didn't do it I said weekly. And
14:29
England him when the World Cup and sixty city
14:31
to evaluate if you could never get that free.
14:33
Oh that, I've got a guy. I started Mr.
14:36
Brightside. It is as. Good
14:39
as on us I think. oh so
14:41
I know. I must have pointed this
14:43
out last time for the i said
14:45
it was the same problem I didn't
14:47
do I so suplicy sleep does sound
14:49
like he said every wage. At
14:52
England him when the woke up in sixty six
14:55
he sneered. Do people
14:57
who are. Listings his know the plot
14:59
of this book. Can we reference
15:01
that we know who killed? I
15:03
think if you use a tricky
15:05
to see if you haven't listened
15:07
to the original ones, what the
15:09
fuck you doing on Patriot? Listening
15:11
to these run much as I
15:13
can. worth. The sites that the
15:16
murderer is mentioned in the third
15:18
sentence is absolutely astonishing. Figure out
15:20
the scene of the crime in
15:22
get I Put the Knife Down.
15:24
Even. Then it occurred to me that my prince
15:26
run the handle is half past ten in the
15:29
morning. Was started. it's just
15:31
another Monday had such he turned
15:33
fashion. I'll
15:36
give the police about said Coppery. There
15:38
was a crooked smile on his lips.
15:40
Etti Carver's enjoying this. Duffy was Dad.
15:42
there was blood everywhere, even on my
15:44
hands. and he Coppery was enjoying a
15:46
soul. To him, that's. a
15:49
good repetition or do you think that
15:51
is as he said i think from
15:53
a plot perspective is given us too
15:56
much fun with the benefit of hindsight
15:58
you get a murderer is enjoying
16:00
this situation as you would expect a
16:02
murderer to do. This was
16:04
his big chance, me and side, on
16:06
a charge of murder. Carberry
16:09
is caretaker manager, a run of good results
16:11
and he gets my job, which
16:13
he has always wanted and expected to get
16:15
when the last guy got the old heave
16:17
ho after the border on takeover. That's a
16:19
bruisism isn't it? The old heave ho. What's
16:22
interesting there though is quite often you will
16:24
sort of meet what turns out to
16:26
be the killer in the first scene, but they'll
16:28
be presented as others so you won't be aware
16:30
of their motivations or their motives. But
16:33
Bruce here is literally gone, oh no this guy
16:35
wants to have my job and
16:38
now I'm being framed for a murder. And
16:40
he's enjoying it. But I think
16:43
perhaps he's hiding in places like it's so obviously
16:45
him that you go, well it can't be him,
16:47
it's a double triple bluff. What's
16:49
interesting about it is a classic
16:52
bruisism. Maybe it's not Dickens.
16:55
So I did say to you too early that
16:58
I want to write a GCSE style paper for
17:00
our fans. And one of
17:02
the questions would be, using
17:04
examples from the text, show
17:07
how Bruce moves effortlessly from
17:09
a murder mystery to discussion
17:11
of football as quickly as
17:13
possible. And
17:18
I think this is a great example of that
17:20
because you've got to remember, if I found
17:22
a dead body with a knife in it, that
17:25
is a defining moment of my life and
17:27
I'm not worried about how that's going to
17:29
affect my job prospect. How
17:31
would, what is he doing picking up the knife? If
17:34
you saw a dead body with a knife next to it, why
17:36
is your instinct to pick up the murder weapon? Yeah
17:38
I suppose it's like a, oh god I should check
17:40
if he's alright kind of thing. So did he pull
17:42
the knife out of the body? Or
17:44
is it like a scallop? Yeah,
17:47
it doesn't say why he's got the knife in his
17:50
hand. When I was surrounded by
17:52
members of the club, nothing much was
17:54
said. Some of them touched
17:56
me lightly on the shoulder, letting me know they
17:58
were in sympathy with me. smiled weekly
18:00
but was unable to utter a single word either
18:02
of explanation or in my
18:09
defense. What I didn't know then
18:11
was that I was in deep shock.
18:14
When a manager's top striker is murdered and the manager
18:16
is found with the weapon in his hand it's
18:19
no time to start singing we're on our way
18:21
to the premiership. Can
18:24
we just say as well? I don't
18:26
remember that bit. There isn't a single
18:29
reference to the fact, what about Duffy?
18:31
What about this lad who's dead? Can
18:33
you resuscitate him? Is he
18:35
breathing? No, it's, oh well he's happy this
18:38
has happened. It's very
18:40
weird. It's a very strange reaction
18:42
but I think that that goes
18:44
through the club throughout really. I
18:46
mean I'm no expert medically. Would
18:48
a single stab wound in the back
18:50
kill you? I suppose if you got it in the right
18:52
place it depends really. Like I suppose
18:54
if you got it in the lungs straight
18:56
at the heart that's one thing I'm quite
18:59
happy to trust. A murderer
19:01
has been completed to a certain degree. I
19:07
question everything else but that's
19:09
alright. I had quite literally
19:12
been caught red-handed and the
19:14
guy who found me was an
19:16
implacable enemy. Implec- Implecable? Implecable?
19:21
Implecable then? I can't believe. I feel
19:23
like I'm suddenly reading a world's self
19:25
book. We
19:28
who've made a career of scoffing at
19:30
the writing of Steve Bruce, one
19:33
paragraph into our deeply
19:35
hubristic read-along have
19:37
not between us a confident
19:40
guess at how to pronounce a
19:42
word he's used. You've got to
19:44
say. You who
19:47
last laughed. These
19:49
wings are very much
19:51
made of wax guys. I
19:55
said to Ivo before this, I said this is either the best
19:57
or the worst idea we've ever had. Full
20:00
refunds available Patreon guys. He's
20:02
made a fool of us. He's
20:05
absolutely done us. What does
20:07
implacable mean? I don't know why
20:09
implacable means. I'm
20:12
so sorry Steve. Can
20:14
we google it? How are we spelling that? Unable
20:17
to be appeased or placated. I mean yeah.
20:22
Steve. So stop. I'm dreading
20:24
it now. I've
20:27
seen he doesn't know that word does he? I think
20:29
one of the recurring themes is that you can
20:31
feel the copy and
20:33
the paste function. When
20:36
he's doing his long segments about
20:39
the changing face of the industrial North or
20:41
whatever, it feels like it's just been lifted from
20:43
a page. That's not to say
20:45
that that word isn't one he would use. I
20:48
would absolutely love to
20:50
be watching Match of the Day in a few weeks. As
20:53
G. Bruce did in a press conference and he uses... He
20:56
describes Andy Carroll as implacable. I
21:04
think I'd better fill in some of the background. Much
21:07
of this you already know. I
21:09
was born and brought up in the North East. My
21:11
father was a fitter and my mother a
21:14
housewife who took a series of home help
21:16
jobs to make ends meet. We were poor.
21:19
The whole area was poor in those days. The
21:22
docks were closed. There was no work.
21:24
Strong men with skills idled their time
21:26
in betting shops. Or gossiping down at
21:28
the social club. Over half a pint
21:30
of bitter ale. With kids
21:32
to care for and hard times for
21:34
everybody, my parents didn't have much to
21:36
offer us. I'm not complaining.
21:38
It wasn't a bad childhood. There
21:40
was happiness and love in the family. It was
21:43
just that we were poor. That's
21:46
a nice section. I think that's very nice. Have
21:49
you read his autobiography, Michael? Is that pretty close to his
21:51
life? Yeah, that's fairly
21:53
accurate. Have you got any brothers or
21:56
sisters? I can't remember. How long?
22:00
Let's be honest, we're running scared now.
22:03
I've really... The
22:06
one-two punch of a long word and
22:08
a sympathetic childhood has
22:10
really shown us up
22:13
for the smug media wankers
22:15
we are. He's
22:17
put a semantic reducer on us early, don't he?
22:20
We're done. Our heads are gone. He's let
22:22
us know he's there. We
22:25
were all soccer mad. Wow, there we go.
22:27
We're back in the game. We
22:30
were all soccer mad. I was no different. From
22:32
as early as I can remember, I was kicking a ball
22:34
about. Sometimes it was old tennis
22:36
ball, sometimes a football. We
22:39
all had our heroes. Some from
22:41
the past, some more recent. Jackie
22:43
Milburn, Bobby Robson, Jack
22:46
and Bobby Charlton, Brian Robson, Alan
22:48
Shearer, Paul Gaskewin. The
22:51
list goes on and on. What
22:53
I never guessed, even in my wildest dreams,
22:55
and, like any other soccer crazy boy, I
22:57
had my share of dreams. What I never
22:59
guessed was that I'd one day make the
23:01
top grade. I'd say
23:03
Paul Gaskewin's a strange choice there because he's
23:05
younger than Steve Bruce. Yeah, and I think
23:07
also Alan Shearer's a strange choice as well.
23:09
Yeah, yeah. When he's younger than Paul Gaskewin.
23:12
Yeah. My
23:14
dad knew I had skills, but he looked on soccer
23:16
as a chancy way to make a living. In some
23:18
ways he was right. He told me to
23:20
get a trade. Alex Ferguson was
23:22
a shipyard welder. Get a trade first,
23:24
dad told me. And maybe make a bit
23:26
from football too. He wanted me to be a
23:28
plumber. That would compliment his skills as
23:30
a fitter. There would be all sorts of jobs we could
23:32
tackle together. Barns and sons, fitters
23:34
and plumbers. He
23:37
sort of feel almost quite sad for the loss
23:39
of that parallel life, isn't it? Barns
23:42
and sons never existed, of course. But
23:44
he'd have walked in and they'd have been like, they'd have been a murder.
23:46
No. He'd have been fitted
23:49
up for it. Oh, lovely. Oh,
23:51
yeah. In
23:53
the end, it was soccer that claimed all my attention,
23:55
and it still does. I wanted to
23:57
be a striker. Maybe every boy does. I
24:00
like that kind of thing. That's the kind of stuff
24:03
about his childhood and stuff. There's
24:05
some kind of eternal observations about, well
24:08
not human kind, but certainly eternal observations
24:10
about what it's like to be a
24:12
young fan. A young football fan. I
24:14
saw myself slotting in the winning goal
24:16
at Wembley against Brazil or Argentina to
24:18
snatch the World Cup for the country.
24:21
A PE teacher at school made me
24:23
change my mind. You're a
24:25
defender Steve, he said. You've got the shoulders
24:27
of an ox, you're tall, and you can
24:30
move fast. And
24:33
it's never just a stopper. That isn't how
24:35
modern football is played. Defence isn't
24:37
a matter of booting the ball into the
24:39
stands. It's about blunting their attack and moving
24:41
straight onto the offensive. I remember the days
24:43
when centre forwards used to lounge about upfield
24:45
during a period of defence, waiting for a
24:47
high ball to be delivered to them. That
24:50
changed and changed utterly. Nowadays
24:52
you'll find Alan Shearer on the goal line,
24:54
heading clear when the goalkeeper has been left
24:56
stranded. Never seen that in my mind. Nothing.
24:59
It never happened. But
25:01
it's already clear that he idolises the
25:03
younger man, Alan Shearer. So he started
25:05
putting him in positions he's never actually
25:07
been. The last line of defence, famously,
25:09
Alan Shearer. Every
25:13
member of the side is an attacker and
25:15
a defender. That is one of the important
25:17
facets of the modern game. I am still
25:19
in my squad on the training ground. I
25:22
don't think Steve Bruce invented total football, which
25:24
is where this appears to be going. If
25:27
soccer skills had been the only thing at
25:29
school, I'd have been a scholar. I can't.
25:31
The amount of times he's gone with soccer.
25:33
I know. I would feel that it is
25:36
annoying. Every time you say
25:38
it's like, you just imagine Steve Bruce saying that and you
25:40
can't hear it. Could I bring
25:42
attention to an advert we saw
25:44
I've seen for Ted Lasso? Yeah,
25:46
please. In which the comedian Lloyd
25:48
Griffith is playing a journalist. Yeah.
25:50
I'm not in any way blaming
25:52
Lloyd Griffith for this because he's
25:54
not written the line. Ted
25:59
Lasso says... you either win
26:01
or you lose and he says no
26:03
in England there's also ties and
26:05
it really jarred with me. Well
26:07
but because also I think he says that
26:09
Jason Sudeikis a sort of American fish out
26:11
of water character Ted Lesseux says you know
26:14
I'm here for this team win or lose
26:16
and Lloyd Griffith the impatient journalist in the
26:18
front row goes or tie
26:20
and Jason Sudeikis says oh yeah or ties
26:22
I forgot you have those over here so
26:25
you've already got him the joke of him
26:27
not knowing about English football yeah but even
26:29
within the joke he still doesn't
26:31
know yeah it's a very difficult
26:34
thing with soccer with this yeah
26:36
or the other question is
26:38
are we not in the game enough and they
26:40
actually do call it soccer more than we realize
26:42
why soccer aid called soccer aid? Did I have
26:45
to get it in my chest finally? Oh good
26:47
question yeah I don't know well Robbie
26:49
Williams spent a lot of time in America and
26:52
maybe they were going for more I bet
26:54
they were going for an in it's UNICEF
26:56
so I bet they've tried to sell
26:59
that to an American market. Well when Oasis played
27:01
blur at five aside in the mid 90s that
27:03
was the soccer six so it must have six
27:05
aside. Are we the only people that don't call
27:07
it soccer? At four. Sitting
27:10
in this room is this where we realize?
27:13
If soccer skills had been the only thing at school I'd have been a
27:16
scholar as it was PE was
27:18
my best subject I managed a good GCSE
27:20
in English which is why I can tell
27:22
you this story now. Oh hey whoa
27:25
that's it's something really funky
27:27
happening there from the perspective of
27:29
the author so Steve
27:31
Barnes has directly referenced that he
27:34
this isn't an internal monologue he's
27:36
writing this all down yeah this
27:38
is so so you can actually
27:40
picture if you were to make the film
27:42
of this. Wow. So Steve you know at
27:44
the end of Stand By Me oh hold
27:46
on yeah when Richard Dreyfuss yeah is at
27:48
the typewriter telling the story well let's find
27:50
out perhaps there are other sort of a
27:52
formal playfulness that we didn't pick up on
27:55
the first time around there is there is a
27:57
kind of he's breaking the fourth wall a bit yeah
27:59
I suppose. Or is it the
28:01
fifth walk as he's being Steve Bruce
28:03
reflecting on I
28:06
can't wait for Christopher Nolan to adapt Is
28:10
it murder she wrote as well then I said
28:12
Angela Lansbury pulls the paper out the typewriter Yeah
28:15
at the end. Yeah at the end. Well Sherlock
28:17
Holmes as well. Obviously is is written by the
28:19
is The stories
28:21
are written By
28:23
John Watson John Watson writes
28:25
and for a magazine Dr.
28:27
Watson. So if you read Sherlock
28:30
Holmes, it's written from the
28:32
perspective of Johnson Watson who is Chronicer
28:34
Sherlock Holmes his friends and chronicler right
28:36
and they'll have discussions where Sherlock
28:39
Holmes will talk about Other
28:41
Sherlock Holmes stories that you've read and how
28:43
he doesn't believe Watson did a very good
28:46
job of portraying him and stuff like that
28:48
Right, so so Barnes is really just keeping
28:50
up that tradition of you know
28:52
of Conan Doyle So perhaps he's more literate
28:54
than we've given him credit for but also
28:57
a lot of this is in the present
28:59
tense, isn't it? So he's written chapter one
29:02
Before he knows how this story develops
29:04
because he's surprised by the things that happen
29:06
as the story goes on Steve Bruce is
29:09
frequently friends in the Newcastle dressing room Wowing
29:11
foreign players with the news that Frankenstein isn't
29:13
actually the name of the monster Your
29:22
brains are all in your feet lad the English teacher
29:24
told me I was determined to
29:26
prove him wrong That may be why he
29:28
said it teachers have to motivate the kids.
29:30
It's the same being a manager Motivation
29:32
is the name of the game. So I
29:35
became a defender. I Don't
29:37
remember any teachers at school in
29:40
English going for the
29:42
your shit at English That
29:48
was not what there was no teacher
29:50
who Motivates kids.
29:53
Okay, you're gonna you're not gonna
29:55
get a see so good luck.
29:57
You know your brain they're in
29:59
the So
30:02
I became a defender. I was young and strong
30:04
and knew how to read a game. I played
30:06
for the school team even when in a junior
30:09
form. On Saturdays I turned out for the youth
30:11
club team. I'd like to think that
30:13
Scouts came along to matches almost by chance and
30:15
spotted my talents. It wasn't like
30:17
that. My dad was active on my behalf.
30:19
He got in touch with club scouts and
30:21
invited them to come along, have a look
30:23
at what he called this young prospect. A
30:27
literal description of it. He's loud
30:29
in quotes as well. That's true.
30:31
That parallels precisely
30:34
with his biography. His dad
30:36
sort of went out and
30:38
pushed him to people, I think
30:40
scouts or coaches that his dad knew for some reason
30:42
and was like come take a look at my son,
30:44
come take a look at my son. Well his dad
30:47
here, he didn't say that the young prospect was his
30:49
son. I
30:51
think all of this background, I mean
30:53
we've picked out a few quibbles but
30:55
I'd say it's generally a lot
30:58
stronger than the stuff. I
31:00
think Steve Bruce could write
31:02
and you get all the Pan-Ein stuff later.
31:05
He could write a great kind of coming of
31:07
age book
31:10
set in the northeast in the 60s
31:12
or the 70s. Well it would be
31:14
set, all the references would be throughout
31:16
time because you
31:21
could see Steve Bruce's books turned into one of
31:23
those kitchen sink dramas. Steve
31:26
Bruce weekly. As
31:30
luck would have it, I played for teams that
31:32
did well locally. At the age of 15 I
31:34
went to St. James's Park for a trial. Playing
31:36
for Newcastle United was my dream. Me
31:38
and thousands of others in the northeast, it
31:41
wasn't to be. I played my heart
31:43
out but they didn't make me an offer.
31:45
I started my professional career at
31:48
Girlington City. He played for Girling
31:50
to who? Well I'd be interested
31:52
for a discussion of the pronunciation
31:54
here. So obviously he means
31:56
Gilligan. Yeah that was his first club. Jurlington
32:00
City I would always pronounce with
32:02
a hard G. It's not
32:04
Jurlington City is it? It's
32:07
spelt girl. I mean no one else
32:09
has ever had this conversation. I
32:12
had to pronounce Jurlington. Not
32:16
a fashionable side, but it was an excellent
32:18
apprenticeship. Anyway, enough of that. Here
32:21
I was at the age of 38, first team
32:23
coach of Ledersford Town. I'd been
32:25
in the job for a matter of a
32:27
couple of months. My first post as a
32:29
player manager was at Threshfield United. Who's
32:32
that meant to be? Well who was Steve
32:34
Bruce's first job as a manager? Was that
32:36
in reference to the law firm Threshfield's? Who
32:38
he did an internship with? My
32:44
job was to get the side back into the
32:46
Premier Division where everybody in the city said they
32:48
belonged. There was a major problem, the
32:50
usual problem, lack of money for
32:53
new players. That meant a youth
32:55
policy and maybe three or four years before
32:57
I could even claim success. The
32:59
directors wanted success this season. They
33:01
wanted the impossible. So
33:04
when I was headhunted by Ledersford and the
33:06
owner of the club was a millionaire, there
33:08
was a promise of money for players. I
33:10
jumped at the opportunity. Who wouldn't? That's
33:13
an interesting defence of,
33:16
I seem to remember when Steve Bruce started out
33:18
as a manager, he went from
33:20
club to club quite a lot and got a
33:22
bit of a bad reputation for jumping
33:26
into slightly better situations.
33:28
Yeah, Mark Hughes. Yeah.
33:31
But one of the few journeyman managers. Yeah,
33:33
one of the few journeymen. But
33:37
that's almost a defence of his own, the criticism
33:39
of him. And
33:42
the first kind of tacit reference to
33:44
Sir Lawrence, millionaire-o. Well here
33:46
he comes. There was a short list of
33:48
five candidates for the post. I
33:50
went for the final interview brimming with
33:53
confidence. I felt sure that if I
33:55
could impress Sir Lawrence, the owner, he
33:57
would carry the others with him. And
33:59
I was right. I went for Pat Duffy
34:01
right away. I watched him play several times
34:03
when I was still at Threshfield. He was
34:05
only 16 years old, yet he played like a
34:07
man of more mature years. This
34:10
boy was a sensation on the ball.
34:13
I reckoned he'd play for the Republic
34:15
of Ireland before he was 18. That
34:18
adds a whole bleaker edge. I hadn't
34:20
realised before... That he was
34:22
emotionally invested in him. No, the murder
34:24
victim wasn't even an adult. Oh, yeah.
34:27
So how old is he? He's 16 or 17. And
34:30
also the fact that Bruce brought
34:32
him to the club makes him somehow.
34:34
Oh, yeah. Yeah, you'd think you'd be...
34:36
You don't think you'd be bragging in
34:39
print about bringing him to the club.
34:41
You'd think you'd be beating yourself up
34:43
about how you've had this strange role
34:45
in what led him to be murdered.
34:48
He was the new Ryan Giggs, the Irish
34:50
Joe Cole. That's
34:53
something weird about that turn of phrase. Well, I don't
34:55
think Joe Cole was a big enough player. When did
34:57
this come out again? About 1998? Okay,
35:02
so it is peak Joe Cole. Yeah.
35:04
No doubt he'd move to top Premier Club
35:07
for a big transfer fee, unless we at
35:09
Ledersford climb out of the ruck and into
35:11
the Premier Division ourselves. So
35:13
this is our rising young star, Sir Lawrence said to me
35:16
one day, Sir Lawrence Brook,
35:18
our chairman and owner. Hello,
35:20
old friend. You smell
35:22
the cigars when you say that. He
35:26
called me off the training ground where we were planning
35:28
a number of strategies. I was
35:30
still player manager, and though I didn't turn out
35:32
for the first two anymore, I sometimes turned out
35:34
for the reserves and regularly got stuck in with
35:36
the lads during training sessions. He's
35:39
a good young prospect, I said, echoing my
35:41
father's words about me. When will he
35:43
be ready, said Sir Lawrence? Not for
35:46
a while, yet, I said. He needs to put on
35:48
some muscle. My
35:52
fact is that speaking to age properly, looks like he's
35:54
a prized cat. Not
35:59
for a while, yet. I said he needs to put
36:01
on some muscle he certainly seems
36:03
to have what it takes already Solon said smiling
36:06
with a satisfied assurance of
36:08
a guy who with a million bucks
36:10
in the bag makes him sound quite
36:13
predatory yeah he he feels
36:15
this is a creepy conversation
36:17
yeah he's
36:21
playing away watching him run
36:23
up and down where these
36:26
mugs need to get a
36:28
few more pounds on him
36:30
slobbering on the side
36:32
of the penis Lawrence
36:38
enjoy himself with a million bucks in his
36:41
bag he
36:44
needs to bulk up before they
36:47
do anything with this he's not
36:49
ready I said he'd be kicked
36:51
off the park they didn't kick
36:53
John Charles off the park so
36:56
Lawrence reminded me John
36:58
Charles leaves United and Wales equally
37:00
brilliant a strikeout was central defender
37:03
he was as strong as a bull and it had
37:05
brains to go with the strength and skills at that
37:07
moment Duffy hit a high what was that bit? such
37:10
a weird little short mini bio to
37:13
throw us off the set if
37:15
it's getting a bit too much we fancy this
37:18
teenager here's a lead's player to read about it's
37:22
a strange bit because he's
37:25
chosen John Charles presumably because
37:27
he's famous enough yeah
37:30
but then lost confidence in his fame do
37:32
you get the feeling of Steve Bruce writing?
37:34
he writes and he doesn't have a delete
37:36
so when he gets into a position he
37:39
has to get himself out of it
37:41
I always think he's got 1-1er and the word count it's
37:46
like John Charles people might not know who John Charles is
37:48
I can get a paragraph out I
37:50
could have done a slightly more famous footballer but
37:52
it's down on the page now John Charles the
37:54
Welsh Joe Cole At
38:01
that moment, Duffy hit high volley and the ball
38:03
rocketed into the back of the net. Even
38:06
other members of the squad started to clap their
38:08
hands in appreciation. You don't get that
38:10
too often during a training session. If
38:13
I were selecting the team, Sir Lawrence continued,
38:16
in his quiet, carefully modulated English,
38:18
I think I would be giving him a chance to prove himself,
38:21
at least for half a match. I
38:23
heard his words and I got his message. In
38:26
his own subtle way, the chairman was
38:28
telling me about Team Sylexa. That's the
38:30
worst. It's smoke
38:32
and mirrors stuff from Sir Lawrence there. Funny
38:34
he said it, I really wanted to impress
38:37
Sir Lawrence at the interview, because he's never
38:39
stopped. No. Well, I listen to
38:41
advice. Only a fool ignores good advice. I listen
38:43
to those who are at letters for before me
38:45
and know the squad better than I know. People
38:48
like Eddie Carberry and I talk to the team
38:50
skipper Martin Thornton, who
38:53
is dependable in defence as
38:55
the Rock of Gibraltar. Sir
38:59
Alex's horse. I
39:05
was 100%. I would put all
39:08
of my money that Steve Bruce's knowledge of
39:10
the Rock of Gibraltar comes from Sir Alex
39:12
having a horse named Alex. I think that's
39:14
a lovely tenor phrase. Isn't this
39:16
around that time that you had the Rock
39:18
of Gibraltar, Sir Alex Ferguson? Yeah, possibly. Wasn't
39:21
that all the controversy about? Yeah,
39:23
I'll even listen to Sir
39:25
Lawrence Brook. After all, he's
39:27
an astute guy. University educated,
39:29
respected in the business world.
39:32
He knows about economics, finance,
39:34
government policies. But he
39:36
doesn't understand soccer in the way players
39:38
and managers understand the game. So
39:41
while I'm prepared to listen to the advice
39:43
from all quarters, I still think the best
39:45
advice comes from hardened professionals. And
39:48
even when I've heard the advice, I'm the one to
39:50
make the final decisions. In that respect,
39:52
it is lonely being a manager.
39:55
Oh, fuck that. I
39:57
bought Pat Duffy for a song. his
40:00
uncle and you could see that Duffy was a
40:02
serious prospect but young Duffy didn't have the track
40:04
record for the agent to hold out for a
40:06
very large sum. I couldn't
40:08
lose I bought the lad
40:10
for a song. So
40:13
why is he negotiating the transfer fee with the
40:15
agent? Oh my god this is illegal. I think
40:17
Duffy played for Threshfield's did he? But surely the
40:19
club dictates the value of the player not the
40:21
agent. I think he must mean his wages mustn't
40:24
he? Right. He would help us in
40:26
various ways and our push for promotion. I
40:28
was realistic it would take at least a
40:31
couple of years. Success is rarely purchased overnight.
40:34
If we didn't make it to the top flight after
40:36
a couple of seasons I could always sell the young
40:38
player for a big profit. That should please Sir Lawrence
40:40
Brooke and the accountants. Soccer
40:42
has always been a business of course
40:44
but now it is very big business
40:47
and owners accountants and shareholders like to
40:49
see healthy profits. In fact
40:51
they insist on profits and if these are
40:54
not forthcoming someone bites the dust.
40:56
That someone is usually the manager. Think
40:59
of the players you know who never made it in management.
41:02
The list is longer than your arm.
41:04
The weekend had been quiet. We didn't
41:06
have a game on Saturday which
41:08
we will find obviously as a theme.
41:11
It was a Friday evening fixture at
41:13
home and we won. It had
41:15
been a scrappy game and a single goal
41:17
decided it. What worried me was the fact
41:19
that our regular striker Jimmy Lawson had missed
41:21
three sitters and the penalty kick. He
41:24
liked me that's a nice pair isn't it? So
41:26
he sitters and the penalty. In the short term
41:28
I've been with the club he proved that he
41:30
wasn't in the top class. I needed to look
41:33
for a better striker. On his
41:35
day Jimmy Lawson was good enough for a team in
41:37
the lower divisions but he was unreliable in terms of
41:39
his form. I know full well
41:41
that Ford can't convert every chance. That
41:43
isn't the nature of the game or
41:46
even life itself. Some poetic stuff. I
41:49
like it when he ponders on
41:51
the bigger, occasionally
41:53
he does actually have more
41:56
scope than I thought he did. He's
41:58
a bit more philosophical. isn't he?
42:00
Yeah. I think he
42:03
is up to a point. I think also
42:05
if you studied just that kind of philosophy
42:08
over and over again it's basically
42:10
saying in sport as in life and
42:12
then just saying something about sport over
42:15
and over again. And
42:18
we go, yeah I suppose so. But
42:22
consistency is a quality that a good player
42:24
needs and Lawson lacked it. I was
42:26
quickly to learn the reason why. I tried
42:29
to lie in for an extra hour Saturday
42:31
morning. I woke at the usual
42:33
time at seven o'clock, tried to get back to
42:36
sleep but failed. So I went to
42:38
the gym, did a bit of work with the small
42:40
weights, stretched a lot, went on the rowing machine and
42:43
all together spent a pleasant hour exercising.
42:45
A good shower, a shave, dressed in
42:48
casual gear and I was ready for
42:50
a relaxing weekend. Did I
42:52
say relaxing? My wife insisted
42:54
we go shopping. Could I
42:56
ask what casual gear you're
42:59
picturing Steve Bruce in to
43:01
his weekend shopping? Manager, SB
43:07
and some kind of club
43:09
jumper, fleece, hoodie, maybe even
43:11
a gilet if he's feeling fancy. I
43:14
can't picture Steve Bruce in jeans.
43:16
No. No. When you
43:18
think of Steve Bruce at a concert or something like
43:20
that, because he definitely would have been
43:22
dragged to like Ron Stewart by Mrs. Bruce. Yeah.
43:24
She wanted
43:26
to go to the Trafford Centre. I tried
43:29
to dissuade her. My face was too well-known,
43:31
both from the days when I played for Mollcast
43:34
United and now as the bright
43:36
hope of Sir Lawrence Broek. Complete strangers approached me
43:38
and talked as if they've known me all my
43:40
life. I always try
43:42
to be polite. Public relations is, after
43:44
all, an important part of the football
43:46
business but it gets a bit wearisome after
43:48
a while. Everybody, no matter how
43:51
high profile they might be, needs
43:53
a measure of privacy. This
43:55
Saturday morning was no exception. People
43:57
came up to me and called me Steve. Some
44:01
wanted my autograph, some wanted to
44:03
talk about players, and a few even had the
44:05
cheek to tell me which team to select for
44:07
the next town game. So you see,
44:09
St Lawrence was not the only one to interfere.
44:12
He, of course, was always very subtle.
44:16
Two references to him being subtle. He
44:18
never actually told me to select a
44:21
certain player, not even young Pat Duffy,
44:23
but insinuations and suggestions, especially from the
44:25
boss, can be very persuasive. Is this
44:27
when he said, you need to bring
44:29
him on for half of the game?
44:31
Yeah, I think he said, if
44:33
I was the manager, I'd bring him on.
44:36
It's like, if your boss came up to
44:38
you and said, if I were you, I'd
44:40
print out those documents before lunch, and
44:42
you'd go, the thing about bosses is you've got
44:45
to listen up for what they're really saying,
44:47
re-between the lines. That's
44:49
a very subtle way of managing. In
44:53
the afternoon, we went for a run in the country. We
44:56
took the children with us. I'm always conscious
44:58
that I don't see as much of the kids as I was
45:00
like. Cavalick host the country to games,
45:02
a long day in Ledersford the rest of the
45:04
week. Well, it doesn't leave me much
45:06
quality time with the family. We drove
45:09
into the Pennine Hills, parked the car in a
45:11
small village, a church, a post office, a pub,
45:13
and went for a walk in the bright sunshine. I
45:16
could live in a place like this, Susan said. What's
45:19
wrong with Cheshire? I replied. Nothing.
45:22
I mean, as a weekend cottage. One
45:24
day I said, when was rich as Sir
45:27
Lawrence? A few paragraphs
45:29
ago, he said, a list as long as, I was
45:31
like, oh, this is going to be good, you're armed.
45:35
So I'm glad to hear he's getting a
45:37
bit more fancy. I'd hate to be married
45:39
to someone who loved their boss as much
45:42
as this. We'll
45:44
never be that rich, Susan laughed. Not unless
45:46
you intend to own a multinational chemical company.
45:51
It seems like he saved a little bit of the Kool-Aid for
45:53
her. a
46:00
food and drugs division and a small airline,
46:02
I said, reeling off the list of areas
46:04
in which Sir Lawrence Brooke makes his millions.
46:08
What a vile walk that must have
46:10
been. What a diversified portfolio, as they
46:12
wrote. Also, I obviously don't want to
46:14
talk about having two homes as if
46:16
it's the most natural thing in the
46:18
world, but they were just
46:21
talking about a second place in Cheshire.
46:24
I think that's achievable on a football manager's
46:26
side. It's not like, if you
46:28
want to get a second place in Cheshire,
46:30
it's gonna have to be a large multinational.
46:32
Yeah. Well, how many
46:34
airlines do you own if you want to live here? I
46:38
also think, this Steve Bruce's
46:40
wife, is getting her second home too
46:42
close to her first. Yeah. Yes,
46:44
because... I just want to
46:47
get away 30 miles down the road. If
46:50
only we lived there, you shouldn't be able to
46:52
pop back to get, if you
46:54
forget something. That isn't
46:56
the way you live in your second
46:58
home. That is the
47:01
height of luxury, a second home 30 miles
47:03
from your first. Essentially
47:06
buying up the street. Robby
47:09
Fowler style. The weekend
47:11
passed quickly. Monday morning came round
47:13
all too soon. By 8 o'clock I was
47:16
on the M62, the Trans Pennine Motorway, heading
47:18
east from Cheshire. I leave
47:20
home early because there's always a lot of work to do. I
47:23
also want to avoid morning traffic. From home
47:25
to the ground usually takes about 40 minutes.
47:28
I always arrive at the ground feeling fit and
47:30
bursting with energy. There are things to do
47:32
in the office. Julie has my mail
47:34
sorted. I dictate most of my
47:37
answers. Julie has good shorthand
47:39
skills. She's a pleasant young woman.
47:43
Not as young as she once was. Oh.
47:45
Oh, no. Oh, Steve. Thank
47:48
you, that's Michael. Hold your head in your hands, it
47:50
gets worse. But she has a good figure. And
47:53
the blonde highlights of the brown hair make
47:56
her look more attractive. Oh,
47:58
Steve. different
48:00
time. It's not
48:02
different enough. She's
48:05
indispensable when it comes to dealing with my
48:08
diary and the mailbag. I
48:10
mean they're not indispensable tasks. They're
48:12
like, oh god, what would I do? She's
48:15
just in fervour dealing with the mailbag. She's
48:17
my diary. She's got a great body, she's
48:20
got highlights and she can open a letter.
48:22
What would I do without her? How
48:27
big is Mark
48:29
Owen? Like how big's the mailbag?
48:31
As we know a lot of
48:34
stuff coming
48:36
in from South America. A
48:40
huge bag of mail every day. Julie
48:43
doesn't need a gym membership
48:48
when she's logging that mailbag up the
48:50
letters. No wonder she's kept her figure.
48:52
How many
48:56
letters do you think Steve Bruce got at the
48:58
height of his career? There's a question,
49:02
no one's ever asked. I sent him one.
49:04
No way. How's your baby coming across? This
49:11
is definitely worth the patron face. Incredible
49:14
way. I sent every player from
49:16
the double winning season. Every
49:18
player you've watched. Darl Trafford asking
49:20
for a signed picture. Oh my
49:23
god. Eric Cantonar, obviously it
49:25
wasn't him who sent me one back. Dennis Irwin sent
49:27
me one back. Steve Bruce didn't, I think,
49:29
show up might of, but they were all
49:31
print stamp signed.
49:33
They weren't all hand signed. Except Clayton
49:35
Blackmore who actually wrote you a letter.
49:38
You've been pen pals ever since. Hand
49:40
delivered it. What did you say? Eight
49:42
un-replyed letters you sent from you? That's
49:44
amazing. Wow. That's why you had to
49:46
get Julie in. Why did you write
49:48
them all individually? Why didn't you do
49:50
them as a big catch-all? Well, I
49:52
felt like that would be a
49:55
bit heated. During that moment in
49:58
the Mina United dressing room. They
50:00
all compare notes and realise they
50:03
weren't expressed. They all... No
50:07
one's asking Clayton Black for a
50:09
side photo. That is something that
50:11
he would remember. And
50:14
he was like, oh my God, that's got a fan. They're
50:16
like, ahh. I don't
50:18
know why it is. You
50:20
know like in the Vietnam films when the
50:22
troops are sort of waiting for the mailbag
50:24
to come round. And there's always
50:26
one player who's just like, oh I miss the
50:29
game. I like Clayton. I've
50:32
got a letter that he finds out everyone else got one too.
50:35
Did you stagger the letters or did you send all 25
50:38
out on the same day? I would have given them to my mum. They
50:41
all care about Alex Ferguson. He handed them
50:43
out in the dressing room. And
50:45
when the replies came back, well they won the Man United... The postage
50:47
was the Man United Franking Machine. Yes, yeah. So
50:50
they've given it to the reception... I suspect
50:52
none of those players ever saw the letters.
50:55
I'll have to dig them out. I think somewhere at
50:57
home I was lost of all of that stuff. Next
50:59
time I'm down there. I wonder if
51:01
our Patreon listeners have ever sent a letter to a football
51:03
and got a reply. I did a
51:06
couple of those when it was very in vogue. I
51:08
was about 15 so it's quite a kind of... I did
51:11
the apply for the Plymouth Manager job letter
51:14
and got a reply. Yeah, that's cool. I
51:17
sent a Match Magazine autograph book to
51:19
a Swiddentown player when I
51:21
was about 9. Asking if
51:23
he would get the signatures of everyone on the team. And
51:26
he did and he sent it back. Oh wow. That's
51:28
lovely. Keetho Halloran, who I'm afraid
51:30
to say I strategically picked because I
51:32
thought it would be better to send
51:34
it to one of the mid-ranking players
51:36
at the club. I
51:39
thought Gratzioli will sign it but he's not
51:42
going to cart it round the dressing room.
51:51
Oh Halloran does the donkey work on the pitch. He
51:53
can do it with the mail as well. He'd
51:56
send it to Claude Backelaly at Chelsea wouldn't
51:58
he? Did you
52:00
blow a bit of smoke up his arse in order
52:02
to get him? What did you say? You're my favourite
52:05
player. I would feel mortified if Keith O'Halloran heard this.
52:11
I don't think you need to worry. So Michael,
52:14
what you should have done is used Clayton Blackmore
52:16
like a Trojan horse to get around the rest
52:18
of it. Clayton, I love you, my favourite player.
52:20
You don't get enough minutes. But then you've got
52:22
to choose someone that's confident enough to go up
52:24
to the big cheeses. Maybe like Paul Parker, a
52:26
fading elder statesman. Do you
52:28
think you could do it with a club now? If
52:31
you had to send that to one club
52:33
and one player, what are the
52:35
chances of us getting that back? I think
52:37
that'd do Jordan Henderson. He seems like a
52:39
good guy. Oh, James
52:41
Milner maybe? Yeah. Shall we send
52:45
an autograph book? I
52:48
mean you have to remember, this is
52:51
Swindon in, you know, division two. So
52:53
I think doing it for a Premier League team would be quite...
52:56
Just getting a letter that wasn't a bill was probably quite
52:58
a relief. All letters receive an
53:01
answer. Even those... That's
53:04
absolutely daggard to Michael's heart.
53:07
No, they don't. Even those who
53:09
tell me how to choose the side. The
53:11
fans, the supporters are the backbone of any
53:13
club. The supporters of Lettucefield Town have
53:15
been good to me. Soccer has
53:17
been good to me. And I'm not about to
53:20
forget that. Because I get there before the squad,
53:22
usually drive straight to the training ground out of
53:24
town, it was a surprise when I bumped into
53:26
young Pat Duffy. He was standing
53:28
in the doorway of one of those VIP
53:30
suites. You're here bright and early,
53:32
Pat, I said? Yes, sir, he
53:35
said, in his reserved and polite way. Pat Duffy
53:38
was a quiet boy from a village in Southern
53:40
Ireland. He was always very polite. Looking
53:43
at him, you'd never get the sheer weight of
53:45
football ability in that slim
53:47
frame. Oh, no. This
53:50
was chaps with my people. Your
53:53
theory that he couldn't be killed with a
53:55
stab wound is really pulling on our time.
54:00
Pallid little wobbly, there's nothing of
54:02
him! Older
54:05
supports of the club who could remember
54:07
compared him to the young Dennis Law.
54:10
There was no higher praise than that. There was a
54:12
far away look in the lads eyes. What's
54:15
the trouble son I asked? I expected
54:17
him to say that some girl had jacked him
54:19
in and he couldn't live without her. Girlfriend
54:24
left you someone more muscly. She's
54:30
run off with Saracen from gladiators. A
54:35
choice, nothing's fair said
54:37
Pat. His face and the
54:39
look of fear in his eyes told a different
54:41
story. Come down to the office I
54:43
said, placing an arm on his shoulder. Missed
54:46
chance at bony there, I think. I
54:52
have a son not much younger than Pat. If my
54:54
boy were away from home and in some kind of
54:56
trouble, I'd expect someone to be looking out for him.
54:59
I strode off to my office. Pat trailed
55:01
behind me. There was a reluctance in
55:03
his steps. Nice that,
55:05
yeah. His body language spoke
55:08
volumes. Even the way he sat
55:10
on the seat across from me, shoulders hunched, eyes
55:12
wary. I think he
55:14
means weary. Suggested this was more than girlfriend
55:17
trouble. So what's the problem Pat?
55:19
I asked. I glanced at my wristwatch.
55:21
It was well past nine o'clock. He didn't
55:23
answer. I repeated my
55:26
question, but in a different form. Like
55:28
interpretive dance or something. If
55:36
you don't tell me the problem, I can't help you. I
55:39
was used to helping other players, especially young lads
55:41
who've become rich and vulnerable at a young age.
55:44
Oh God. Rich and
55:46
vulnerable? I grew up on
55:49
a platform. I didn't pick up
55:51
on this the first time around at Seoul. It
55:54
was part of my duties when I was captain at
55:56
Mollcaster United. Now as first team coach
55:58
with Leidersford. This counselling. role
56:00
remains important. He took an envelope
56:02
from the pocket of his jacket. He usually wears
56:04
a suit. What? Duffy! What
56:07
is that? What is that? He usually wears
56:09
a suit. He knows the suit. Right.
56:11
He's the suit. How
56:15
about a
56:18
first job he wants to make an impression? That's a
56:21
classic example of what we were saying
56:23
of Bruce typing himself in the toilet.
56:27
He does shit on a jacket. I need to
56:30
just look at this. I've
56:32
done picturing as well this tiny
56:34
boy in this massive suit like
56:36
David Byrne. He's
56:38
wearing a big brown overcoat. He's
56:41
actually two kids, one on his
56:43
shoulders and the other. Oh,
56:47
right. There's a justification actually. He
56:49
usually wears a suit. He's
56:52
very much the country boy on his best
56:54
behaviour and dressing for the big sit-ins. That's
56:57
never happened. He's not, babe. I
56:59
just feel. I did no disrespect. The streets are paved
57:01
with gold. I opened the envelope and read the letters
57:03
to side. I can't believe he's wearing a suit. You
57:06
know when you're reading a book and
57:08
there's a description and
57:22
it changes what you've been
57:24
picturing for the whole time. It's
57:27
the hermione hermione issue. He
57:29
opened the envelope and read the letter and said, what
57:32
I read was a mess of ill-written abuse
57:35
mixed with threat. I placed
57:37
the letter back inside the envelope and returned
57:39
it to Pat. I was going
57:41
to say, within striking I was like,
57:44
I'll be in the right room. Next
57:47
place for that is the waste basket, son. But
57:50
he says he's going to kill me, Duffy said. I
57:53
laughed out loud. A bloody nutter,
57:55
I told him. I've
57:57
had letters like that, especially when I was a
57:59
skipper at Mollcaster. I went to the
58:01
door and called for Julie. Julie, see
58:04
that Pat gets a cup of coffee. I
58:06
winked at her, letting her know there was
58:08
nothing serious. I just think
58:10
he should be taking it
58:12
more serious. Also, it'd be great if we got to
58:15
know what the letter said as well. It
58:17
was a massive hill written abuse. Oh,
58:19
sorry. Of course. He's
58:23
killed him twice, pretty much. So he's transferred into
58:25
the club, he gets murdered out, and he's ignored
58:27
threats on his life. He
58:30
also has a history of this. I mean, we'll come to this
58:32
in later books. But the guy who doesn't
58:35
take to hospital when he's having some kind
58:37
of diabetic seizure... It's like Steve
58:40
Bruce has committed manslaughter... Steve Barnes, sorry.
58:42
I mean, three times already? It's
58:45
like just lack of days of
58:47
it going, I told JFK it'd be fine to get
58:49
an open top card. Yeah,
58:54
I was mentioning the passing to Buddy Holly. He claims it
58:56
the safest way to fly! Look
59:02
up there at that book deposit. Yeah,
59:06
he's so... He's so... he
59:08
doesn't give a shit. I'll
59:11
give you a lift to the training ground, I said.
59:13
Young Duffy had not yet learned to drive a car.
59:16
As he went out, head hanging low, as
59:18
if he'd just missed an important penalty kick,
59:20
he fished into his pocket and took
59:23
out the envelope. You keep the letter,
59:25
sir, he said, in his soft brogue. I
59:28
put a letter in my pocket and thought no more
59:30
about it right then. Julie
59:32
closed the door behind them. I checked
59:34
the time. We were due at the training ground
59:36
in about 30 minutes. That gave
59:38
me time to ring my agent in London. My
59:41
agent works hard on my behalf. Considering
59:44
the amount of money he creams off the top
59:46
of everything I earn, he damn well ought to
59:48
work hard. He's got it for
59:50
his agent, I'm creaming it off the top.
59:54
He's a good guy and we have a
59:56
close relationship based on mutual trust.
1:00:00
Yeah, exactly, you literally just slagged
1:00:02
him off! I'd
1:00:04
love to know what the split an agent is on. What
1:00:06
I really like is when I really trust
1:00:08
someone and I'm always thinking about how much money they're creaming
1:00:11
off the top of them. The
1:00:15
call over I changed into my tracksuit. Exercise
1:00:18
would take Duffy's mind off the foolish letter.
1:00:21
For some reason I did not throw the letter in
1:00:23
the waist bin where it belonged but
1:00:25
kept it in my pocket of my suit. I
1:00:27
attached no importance to the letter. Like I
1:00:30
said, it was from a nutter, some sick
1:00:32
loner with nothing better to do than make
1:00:34
idle threats. The training
1:00:36
ground was five miles from the ground. We could
1:00:39
travel there as a group in the bus but we always go
1:00:41
by car. That allows some
1:00:43
of the players an extra hour or so in bed.
1:00:47
Young men like to sleep on, especially
1:00:49
if they've been clubbing the previous night. Lost
1:00:54
control of the dressing room completely there. We're
1:00:59
not picking at the fact that the bus ride is adding
1:01:01
an hour on to their morning. Has
1:01:05
Pat Duffy gone out? I asked the girl on reception.
1:01:08
She did not know. I expect him
1:01:10
to be standing next to my car. He wasn't there. I
1:01:12
waited, growing impatient. Though
1:01:15
he'd had a good win on Friday evening, there were some important
1:01:17
moves I wanted to go through. Strategies
1:01:20
practiced on the training ground can be
1:01:22
translated into good results. When
1:01:24
Duffy did not come after 10 minutes, I
1:01:27
was getting angry. Young men
1:01:29
or not, potential star or not, he would
1:01:31
have to learn who was the boss and you
1:01:33
don't keep the boss waiting. I
1:01:35
checked the reception area. I checked the toilets. Finally
1:01:38
I went down to the locker room. The
1:01:40
sight that confronted me as I entered was
1:01:43
something from which I was totally
1:01:45
unprepared. Young Pat Duffy,
1:01:47
a striker, was stretched out on the
1:01:49
floor in a pool of blood. An
1:01:51
involuntary gasp issued from my lips. Such
1:01:54
an amount of blood I'd never seen before. I
1:01:57
have seen gashed legs where muscles have been raked
1:01:59
by stones. I've seen blood
1:02:01
pouring from a guy's nose when it's broken.
1:02:04
Nothing had prepared me for this. I
1:02:06
was foolish. I went over
1:02:09
and pulled the knife from his back. Someone
1:02:12
had taken him unawares. That's
1:02:14
how it was when Carberry came in. Bright
1:02:16
red blood on the knife blade, the knife
1:02:18
in my hand, Duffy's dead
1:02:20
body, stretched out on the locker room
1:02:22
floor. I didn't do it, I
1:02:24
said weakly. And England didn't win the World
1:02:27
Cup in 66 years. I
1:02:29
put the knife down. Even then it
1:02:32
occurred to me that my print from the handle, it
1:02:34
was half past nine in the morning. What
1:02:36
started as just another Monday morning had
1:02:39
suddenly turned pear shape. And
1:02:41
he hitched his backpack onto his
1:02:43
right shoulder. He
1:02:46
probably hitched it. Unnecessary
1:02:50
detail there. He
1:02:54
just managed to wear a
1:02:56
backpack. He just come back.
1:03:00
Two weeks during the rain to rain.
1:03:05
In my head,
1:03:07
Carberry's got like a saucepan hanging
1:03:09
off it and like a roll.
1:03:13
A flashlight. Carberry's
1:03:16
key rings clanked together. They
1:03:19
stood over their body. Eddie
1:03:26
hitched his backpack on his right shoulder. I'll
1:03:29
give the police a bell, Carberry said. Chapter
1:03:32
end. So interestingly,
1:03:34
doesn't he repeat the
1:03:36
thing? Yeah,
1:03:38
that's a really interesting literary device.
1:03:41
I enjoyed that literary device, the repetition
1:03:44
of the... I think it works well
1:03:46
with the red blood, the
1:03:48
knife in my hand. I think the reputation
1:03:50
of England didn't win the World Cup in
1:03:52
96 years. And the
1:03:54
repetition of pear shaped. I
1:03:58
think when you're sitting on a gag as well. good as
1:04:00
66 you should do it twice. England
1:04:04
haven't won the World Cup as many times as Steve
1:04:06
Bruce has made a gag about them winning the World
1:04:08
Cup in the first
1:04:11
chapter of his book. That
1:04:14
was chapter one of Striker by
1:04:16
Steve Bruce and we now fully
1:04:18
believe that to be the case.
1:04:21
Next month we'll be back with
1:04:23
chapter two to continue
1:04:25
on this literary odyssey. Steve
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Barnes see you later. So
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there you go that was chapter one of Striker. If you
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want to get access to all the Steve Bruce books and
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finish the trilogy plus get all the extra
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your Apple podcast app. Thursday 16th of May
1:04:51
is the end of quickly Kevin the final
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show that will be on the Palladium. We'd
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love you to be there. Have a look
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in the description of this episode for tickets
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and we'll see you soon. Robbie Slater see
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you later.
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