In this episode, we look at the future of Blackness from another lens - how it can be trapped in the rhythmic call and response with whiteness. Nigel Richard chats to Nigerian writer, Bayo Akomolafe. They explore these patterns of race-making and ways of reimagining Black experiences.   Bayo Akomolafe wears many hats- a post-humanist thinker, philosopher, psychologist, professor and poet. He's a renowned author of two books, “These Wilds Beyond Our Fences” and “We Tell Our Own Story”.   Subscribe to journey with us into the future of Blackness.    Hosted by: Nigel Richard Special thanks: Sebabatso Manoeli-Lesame, Laetitia Nolwazi Mbuli, Yasmeen Rubidge, Modupeola Oyebolu, Lindokuhle Nkosi and Daryl Hannah    Produced by: The Good People at Between Productions Website: Moya Digital Magazine