0:00

28 days. So we

0:00

just go a little bit deeper, a

0:02

little bit deeper, a little bit

0:02

deeper. Yeah, let's go back to

0:05

that range, another 10 minute

0:05

flight, 20 minute round trip, we

0:08

got to pay for whatever. At the

0:08

same time, most flights, unless

0:14

we're going super deep, but

0:14

like, on the daily, you know,

0:18

when you're just paying for

0:18

flights, he bought these chips

0:20

and they were like $25 chips

0:20

were for the plane. And they had

0:25

this tiny fucking airplane with

0:25

pontoons up there. Hit it, it

0:31

was insane. It would when he

0:31

landed on the face, like, you

0:38

know, a steep ass face. And just

0:38

punch it in on the way up here

0:42

like skipping 100 feet by you

0:42

know, when you're coming into

0:47

land, you're looking directly at

0:47

the mountain like you're just in

0:51

he just would chat. This is chat

0:51

flying, he would just fucking

0:55

Yeah, jam it. Like it was nuts.

0:55

It was fucking totally nuts. And

1:00

then the person sitting shotgun,

1:00

in the case I'm thinking of was

1:04

me at that point, you jump out,

1:04

like right when he can't go up

1:09

any further. You're basically 10

1:09

feet from the saddle, where you

1:13

get dropped by, you know with a

1:13

heli. When he can't go any

1:17

further you just jump out. And

1:17

there's a little handle on the

1:20

wing. Just grab that. Just hold

1:20

on, everyone, everyone calls

1:25

out, and it was smaller than a

1:25

Volkswagen bus in there. On this

1:29

particular day, the plane the

1:29

plane just burst into flames

1:35

while we're playing Slayer. And

1:35

then tape player. It was made

1:38

farmer inhale, I think and he

1:38

just put it down the glacier

1:42

wrenched for half an hour fired

1:42

back up and and we continued

1:47

Nothing seemed fucking gnarly

1:47

about that. To me. It was just

1:52

like, Yeah, we got to we got to

1:52

get to the top of the mountain.

1:55

You know, otherwise we're not

1:55

gonna be able snowboard to the

1:57

road, you know. But yeah, so I

1:57

had so many weeks in a row was

2:02

such good conditions. And so it

2:02

was $20 chips and $40 tips for

2:07

heli rides you know, all told,

2:07

and probably five nights up at

2:14

the lodge Thompson pass and

2:14

maybe some you know, things here

2:18

and there small things. But you

2:18

know, the bulk of it was just

2:23

heli skiing spent I think

2:23

13 $14,000 on the Lamar card

2:29

that that year, I shot one day,

2:29

and I did get a two page spread

2:34

out of it. I mean, I could have

2:34

been out there the whole time

2:36

shooting not gotten that and so

2:36

yeah, that basically paid for

2:43

the trip and it was the best

2:43

riding I was so not concerned

2:49

with filming. I just wanted to

2:49

ride I just wanted to ride the

2:52

train I wanted to fucking it it

2:52

was just so heavy to me it was

2:56

so fucking next level that I you

2:56

know, you don't be the eager

3:04

teenager and just run out and

3:04

just okay fucking you know, get

3:07

this. Oh, you chill. smoke a

3:07

joint. fucking have a beer with

3:14

the locals. You fucking you

3:14

learn to ride that terrain,

3:19

because that terrain will

3:19

fucking kill you if you if you

3:22

don't. And yeah, Time Well Spent

3:22

as far as I'm concerned.

3:31

Hey, Welcome to Rad Matters. Hosted

3:33

by me, Mike Ranquet. And yeah,

3:42

you could say just gonna woke

3:42

up. Pick another slumber. You

3:47

know, it. My age is not hard to

3:47

do. And you'll you'll know soon

3:52

enough, but yeah, there's just

3:52

some things to wrap up. I feel

3:57

like not not even not new. I'm

3:57

sure there's new info stuff. But

4:03

in general, it's kind of like

4:03

wrap this fucking up. And let's

4:08

get on with the show as far as

4:08

what I've intended to do with

4:14

this thinking podcast, which is

4:14

interviews and the like, you

4:19

know, so yeah, we'll see how

4:19

that works out. And that's what

4:25

I want to do. I don't want to

4:25

sit and piss and moan but it's

4:35

it's Some things are worth piss

4:35

and moan about. You know, if

4:40

there's a hill, I'm gonna die on

4:40

or that I've already died on.

4:47

It'd be calling out the

4:47

snowboard industry as a bunch of

4:52

fucking pussies right now. Okay.

4:52

All of you. Every one of you.

4:59

Yeah, easy to say. From Hawaii,

4:59

it really is easy to say like, I

5:03

guess I've been using these

5:03

words for like 51 years now. So,

5:08

I mean, maybe not 51 At first

5:08

start talking to so 49 Yeah, so

5:13

it is easy to say, Yeah, you

5:13

know, the same words I've always

5:16

used and just kind of put him in

5:16

a different kind of arrangement.

5:20

And yeah, so we'll get right to

5:20

it and right on Okay, let's do

5:32

it. I'm just kind of cruising

5:32

some porn forums is that what

5:42

Pete's bringing back? Is like

5:42

the form like the like written

5:47

porn. Is that that? Wow. Wow,

5:47

that's crazy. I didn't even I

5:57

didn't even occur to me until I

5:57

said or there was like, whoa.

6:02

Pete's like, bringing back

6:02

fucking written form. Kudal

6:09

fashion fucking porn men. Good

6:09

one. Good one men. Yes. Pete

6:17

springing forum back forum.

6:17

Yeah. So that like pass forums

6:25

at hustler to long form for like

6:25

Well, that's cool. I mean, just

6:33

kind of invigorating all the

6:33

writers. You know, there's a lot

6:36

of fucking kind of foreign port

6:36

foreign port or, you know, board

6:41

porn writers out there. That,

6:41

uh, that a need to be writing

6:49

about porn. And I'm really,

6:49

really proud of Pete man. He

6:56

really saw around the around the

6:56

curve on this one. Well, he's

6:59

bringing he brought form back.

6:59

That's so cool. That's why

7:04

everyone's excited. Form porn

7:04

for porn. Or Laura. Yay. I get

7:10

it. Yay. P Yay. fuck in written

7:10

porn. Good one. That's cool.

7:18

Remember, when you do all my

7:18

porn mags in Australia, and I

7:21

could check off a whole rest of

7:21

the trip. I was stoked. Right

7:24

on. He made like dolphins of

7:24

like

7:29

things and just everything. Had

7:29

a fish mouth. And it was and it

7:36

was a raunchy magazine in he

7:36

went to town on it. Not just

7:39

like one little drawing here and

7:39

let the whole fucking thing like

7:44

it was. It was pretty. It was

7:44

pretty goddamn funny.

7:51

Yeah, dude. I kind of remember

7:51

back then. That's probably when

7:56

Internet porn was coming in. And

7:56

yeah, you seemed a little little

8:01

miffed. You know, like, you know

8:01

some things that kind of gone

8:06

around you lately, you know? But

8:06

now you get a handle on it.

8:12

fucking Peter line. Bring him

8:12

back forum forum port for port

8:19

or? I mean, yeah. Yeah. It's

8:19

always good to just say porn.

8:26

stoked to just read some foreign

8:26

foreign porn foreign porn or

8:31

yay. Yeah, get you dude. Like,

8:31

when you take a crap in the

8:37

morning you just read about some

8:37

chick just getting hammered. You

8:40

know you don't have to look look

8:40

at it, but fucking you know

8:44

that's sick. Because now you

8:44

can't you can you know? Yeah,

8:49

that's rad. Yeah, pee. Yay. I

8:49

like pee because he likes

8:55

passform porn, or is it past

8:55

four? Or is it just form form

9:01

porn porn porn or foreigner

9:01

Kate? Who's edit? Form porn porn

9:08

porn. Laura. That's cool. Is

9:08

that what that eight minute

9:12

like? Whoa, fucking Anaconda. P

9:12

Dang. Dude, I didn't I didn't

9:19

know for him pork or pork or

9:19

pack in eight inches. Wow. Well,

9:29

you know, you isn't like that

9:29

but who doesn't like fucking

9:38

form? Right? Yeah. Foreign porn

9:38

foreign porn.

9:41

Or that's when you get your

9:41

chick into porn. You know? He

9:44

can be like oh, yeah, no. Oh,

9:44

no, she's zzgot like a blouse

9:50

just like yours. Look match.

9:50

Yeah, it's taking it off. Yeah.

9:54

But yeah, that's cool. I mean,

9:54

it was a lot of fucking Yeah.

9:59

Yeah, yep he good yay P did um,

9:59

fucking is Jeremy like a foreign

10:06

porn porn porn porn writer too?

10:06

Are they all porn writers? Was

10:11

it just you? That row all the

10:11

forms? Form porn porn porn or?

10:17

fuck? That's amazing dude, I

10:17

didn't I mean you must. Yeah, no

10:22

wonder you look busy back in the

10:22

day I get it. Yeah, you're

10:26

always kind of like you know if

10:26

there's a contest you're like,

10:30

you know you didn't get first

10:30

flat out in the morning you

10:33

typically flew out that night

10:33

even now I know why. fucking

10:38

Yeah, the right porn. Okay,

10:38

okay, cool. I'm glad I cleared

10:44

that up before fucking put my

10:44

foot my mouth. Yeah, and there's

10:50

a lot of uh, that's cool. I'm

10:50

just glad. I'm glad that

10:53

everyone's into Pete writing

10:53

form porn porn porn or form you

10:59

know, porn form. That's cool. I

10:59

like that. And could you send me

11:06

like foreign porn porn porn or

11:06

like a sign little you know,

11:10

thing I put my wall Yeah, aap

11:10

Good job bringing back to ass

11:19

forum foreign port foreign port

11:19

Laura. Yay. Yay. Hey, do you

11:26

write the girl and girl wants to

11:26

know okay, what's going on

11:46

Thanksgiving? 2022 And I think

11:46

we're gonna it was 30 years ago

11:56

Thanksgiving, that we were in

11:56

Utah. Filming for roadkill. Dave

12:05

Gooch myself, John. I think we got a Thanksgiving

12:08

dinner at Denny's in Ogden and

12:15

made our way to Colorado that

12:15

night. There we were just

12:19

sitting in this ridiculous

12:19

fucking Cadillac, you know,

12:24

getting kinda like filmed all

12:24

the time. You know, like, yeah,

12:27

of course not. Not everything.

12:27

Not everything made it in the

12:30

movie. Right? But, you know, so

12:30

they're just trying to, I mean,

12:34

they was inventing this format

12:34

in that sense. I mean, he was

12:37

like, he saw something he had to

12:37

kind of try to capture

12:41

everything. And yeah, he had to

12:41

be pretty fucking organized on

12:47

that. I mean, I know I wasn't. I

12:47

know Terry was in. I remember.

12:53

Okay, this is like, we're just

12:53

gonna skip all over for a

12:57

second. But I remember pulling

12:57

up in that big stupid fucking

13:01

limo in Glacier. And, you know,

13:01

we pull into glacier and I'm

13:07

stoked. I'm home. I'm like, fuck

13:07

yeah, let's go to Craig's you

13:10

know, and and so we pull up and

13:10

let's see Craig wasn't home yet.

13:17

Maybe. So we just sat in the

13:17

car. And maybe Kelly Joe came

13:20

out with in bearing with us, but

13:20

we just fucking smoke the

13:24

biggest joint Gooch was set at

13:24

fucking burner. And yeah, we

13:28

just got and Terry wasn't much

13:28

of a burner. I mean, he was like

13:32

12 years old or something at

13:32

that point. I was just like

13:35

fucking smokey little fucking

13:35

pussy. Now. We're all gonna head

13:41

but you know, so we just got

13:41

Terry super fucking bag. Did I

13:46

really think about it either.

13:46

But then Craig rolls up and just

13:50

looks at gute just keep

13:50

counting. I think it was the

13:54

first time he was meeting Gooch.

13:54

Yeah, it was I remember

13:57

introducing him those two. So

13:57

like, You okay, Alicia? guj. He

14:04

got it looked at me. Definitely

14:04

got it like yeah, okay. But kind

14:08

of like Ben looks at Terry and

14:08

look back at me like, Dude,

14:13

don't don't do that to him. Like

14:13

he was bombed on me. He could

14:17

only be bombed on me he just met

14:17

Gooch. He couldn't be like, you

14:20

know, you shouldn't be doing

14:20

that. He wouldn't even think

14:23

that like he just looked at me

14:23

like Mike Come on. Terry and

14:28

could barely open his fucking

14:28

eyes. It was so goddamn funny. I

14:33

yet to feel bad about that.

14:33

Really, for any motion about

14:39

that, uh, know that there's some

14:39

funny shit going on. But yeah,

14:43

so it was what I mean that I

14:43

couldn't say 30 years ago today.

14:48

I don't know what uh, what day

14:48

Thanksgiving fell on back then.

14:52

Yeah, who knows? 30 years ago

14:52

within a week or two? And yeah,

14:58

it was it was cool. I've every

14:58

day A Blake, you know, the one

15:02

we just come out whatever it was

15:02

writers on the storm are

15:05

critical. I don't know which

15:05

one. And then Dave was like, he

15:09

started filming a little bit on

15:09

that, that trip that film in was

15:14

immediately like, let's do a film. I've got this idea and I just I

15:16

was, you know, okay, you know,

15:21

let's, let's go it seemed odd to

15:21

me at the time to go to Colorado

15:26

and film kind of groomers. I

15:26

didn't quite get it but at the

15:31

same time, I didn't know that I

15:31

was sitting on the fucking like

15:34

bombshell trick for the, for the

15:34

big video of, of which I had

15:40

been doing for years at that

15:40

point and never filmed in

15:43

buttering we never never been on

15:43

film was never even thought of.

15:47

But what what it did it like if

15:47

you thought you could snowboard,

15:54

if you snowboard, if you skated,

15:54

and over served a little bit and

15:58

we're thinking about snowball

15:58

anything. You would see the

16:01

butters. And basically, like,

16:01

naturally, you'd be like, oh,

16:06

yeah, I'll do that the first

16:06

day. It's a totally natural

16:12

thing, but like it's it was so

16:12

adaptable anywhere in the world.

16:19

Like, you know, the next trips

16:19

to Japan after roadshow came

16:23

out. And again, I'm just fucking

16:23

gonna wing it just throw it all

16:27

over and play some audio ship

16:27

from it and but the next trip I

16:32

went on to Japan, it was it was

16:32

just not too as like fucking

16:37

Beatlemania type ships, like,

16:37

and, but it was more. They were

16:43

really, really stoked on me or

16:43

something, everyone but like, I

16:47

was definitely the misfit. But

16:47

like, just all the buttering

16:51

they could do it. You know, it's

16:51

like, all of a sudden they see

16:54

video and they see all these

16:54

tricks cool tricks in this

16:57

video. And they go do it. He was

16:57

like, Whoa, yo, could do it for

17:03

shit. fucking idiots. And I'm

17:03

just kidding. You know, again, I

17:09

mean that that's that's what

17:09

that movie did. That's why it

17:12

opened the floodgates of what I

17:12

call you know, the kind of West

17:17

Coast skaters snowboarder guy

17:17

NorCal fucking card carrying in

17:22

some cases. But yeah, suddenly,

17:22

there was a trick style that

17:30

really really emulated skating.

17:30

I mean, it really did. And there

17:36

was really like a you know,

17:36

groundswell of say that style

17:43

writing of which I fucking did.

17:43

That's all I did. But at the

17:50

same time, it wasn't getting

17:50

much it was more about the grand

17:55

boys. You kind of grabbed the

17:55

tip of your board arch your back

17:59

and it just is looks gay. And it

17:59

mean that it looks gay? But I

18:09

it's like I lost it right there

18:09

with the fuck mic talking about

18:16

row two. What the fuck am I

18:16

talking about roadkill you pull

18:19

up what was I say? Yeah, Sione

18:19

was funny. Innovative? No no,

18:30

that was funny shit. Let's go

18:30

back to use out of that

18:34

Thanksgiving. You know? I don't

18:34

think we started filming the

18:39

butters but it was more Colorado

18:39

when we drove to Colorado that

18:43

night on Thanksgiving. And

18:43

that's when we started filming.

18:49

That was first time we filmed

18:49

the butter and then yeah, that

18:54

was like we do before that the

18:54

kind of boring skerries right

19:01

now it was such a trip though

19:01

going around the world and just

19:05

seeing like fuck there is just

19:05

you know, a fucking patch of

19:09

snow somewhere. People get a

19:09

little speed up and do little

19:13

buttering and of course it just

19:13

got beaten to fucking death you

19:17

know? Of course there was like,

19:17

you know, just bad bad versions

19:23

of it everywhere. At the same time, I felt like I

19:26

saw way more in it I see more

19:31

like just springing off shit you

19:31

know just say just getting that

19:36

pressed. It's that backs it you

19:36

know, just popping into that

19:39

backside 180 We call it

19:39

switching those many would have

19:43

whatever Vexilar won't win at

19:43

your fucking nose. And just you

19:47

know you're riding backwards.

19:47

Can you just snap off and get

19:50

like either little half cab or

19:50

cab five. But that's just it's

19:55

like realizing that just playing

19:55

with that going, huh? Oh even

20:01

really? fucking sneaky I'd maybe

20:01

say call Roach that night like

20:05

oh do check it out no. Yeah no

20:05

you can fucking do to dude

20:10

because him and Noah were trying

20:10

to basically trying to learn it

20:13

because they thought it was

20:13

super cool could do it on the

20:15

side for you know a season or

20:15

two before that and they'd

20:19

always see me do that so yeah

20:19

when so we Colorado and that's

20:24

kind of like once we filmed one

20:24

of those it was just like on

20:28

weird filming a lot of that shit

20:28

and again it the train and

20:33

everything lent itself to

20:33

buttering and then I believe we

20:40

did they go? I think they went

20:40

back to Tahoe and I went up to

20:45

Baker to Dave and crew are in

20:45

Tahoe. I flew to Baker from

20:50

Colorado. It's like fucking

20:50

scoundrels. fuck you guys. And

20:54

so I get up. Let's see. I'm Ryan

20:54

Baker. Craig fucking stoked.

21:00

stoked to be home. I was like 21

21:00

You know, fucking getting wasted

21:05

at shadow shooting guns fucking

21:05

glacier peak, Glacier peak,

21:11

Ranquet Peak glacier. So, yeah, it was like fucking a

21:14

big kick, you know, big go back

21:20

and Baker was opening. Let's

21:20

see, just trying to remember

21:25

those days everywhere. I knew

21:25

Craig for a couple days. And

21:27

then when everybody showed up,

21:27

it was like I'd meet him maybe

21:32

in Bellingham then drive up with

21:32

him in the car, you know, like,

21:35

yeah, to hear, I'll just jump in

21:35

with you guys or whatever. We

21:39

get up there. And you know,

21:39

those guys are they're stoked to

21:43

meet Craig Of course, you know,

21:43

it wasn't like, oh, foot Craig,

21:46

whatever. You know, it was like,

21:46

they're all like, fuck, yeah.

21:50

And so the next day, yeah, it

21:50

was sunny. And Baker, at least

21:56

for me and the people I rode

21:56

with back then. It was like, it

22:00

was sunny. That was your day

22:00

off. You took a day off because

22:03

a sunny days it doesn't re you

22:03

don't read it doesn't read up,

22:08

you know. So you can only do it

22:08

once. You know, I don't know.

22:12

It's just kind of funny. So the

22:12

next day was Sunday, and I was

22:16

like, I was like, I'm gonna kick

22:16

it. I've been kind of trapped.

22:19

I've been writing basically,

22:19

fucking powder with Craig and

22:22

like, you know, my legs were all

22:22

fat that time of year. And like,

22:28

Dave was bummed on that, that I

22:28

sat out that day. And they those

22:32

guys, all the footage from

22:32

Baker, there's that one shot of

22:35

me riding Baker there's probably

22:35

a little shot of me the fucking

22:38

parking lot some making out some

22:38

fucking Hardy probably. Now.

22:46

There wasn't one shot. I mean, I

22:46

was I was riding with Craig that

22:49

whole week. Okay, because I was,

22:49

uh, you know, is at that point

22:53

when we really started to split

22:53

up and not be on the same trips

22:57

and not be doing so like, I

22:57

think we always appreciated you

23:00

know, oh, we got a week ride

23:00

with each other sick, you know,

23:03

at home. So yeah, that was that

23:03

was a fucking funny trip. And,

23:11

and there's some other ones

23:11

would that pick your part? Let's

23:14

see. Yeah, see? Okay. So he was

23:14

pissed. He got up there. Because

23:20

I was riding with Craig. He

23:20

probably wanted to get I know it

23:24

was RPM that I had some good

23:24

baker shots that Dave and I went

23:29

out and got some good baker

23:29

shots. That was the thing is

23:31

like, a lot of stuff I wrote.

23:31

It's in the shade and in the

23:34

dark. And I kind of like, I

23:34

don't know, kept something

23:39

sacred, something cool to

23:39

myself, but only for a couple

23:44

months. Because we filmed it the

23:44

next year. I mean, I don't

23:47

really mean that shit. fuck. So,

23:47

let's see Dave was up there.

23:53

Yeah, it was fucking bustling

23:53

times up there. Let's see. Let's

23:59

see. Let's see. Go back. Oh,

23:59

yeah, cardi L. And my friend. I

24:04

was up there, James. I've heard

24:04

James Klinedinst fucking he was

24:10

so good and funny. We took some

24:10

acid one night, I mean, a couple

24:14

of things. But this one night

24:14

Cardiel and I just I mean, we

24:19

were fry involved and like,

24:19

there is like this huge TV. I

24:25

think it was St. James's house

24:25

or something. But he had this

24:28

huge like, old school was a tube

24:28

TV or whatever. And I was just

24:35

like, just fucked up couldn't

24:35

even like you know, fuel my

24:39

tongue. And there's a giant

24:39

sledgehammer or just something

24:43

like that. Just kind of like

24:43

hanging up over there. And I

24:46

just went and grabbed it and I

24:46

just went who just gave me a

24:49

nice little swing, just like a

24:49

little young chip shot. And

24:54

boom, that thing just fucking

24:54

exploded me and John's face of

24:58

his fucking so was sick where

24:58

you're just like, Oh my God. And

25:03

then then that's kind of like

25:03

when I met James that night. I

25:07

know we're partying with bass.

25:07

We were shooting guns inside his

25:12

house like in Glacier springs,

25:12

like it was one up there on the

25:16

right, whoever you want to take

25:16

a wall out for some reason. I

25:22

was cool with that. Yeah, no,

25:22

that was pretty, some pretty

25:26

wild, wild times. And so

25:26

roadkill you know, it was fun to

25:32

like, be at home and filming

25:32

even though I wasn't filming.

25:36

And so this one day, this one

25:36

that Dave in it, like they were

25:40

packed up there, like, you know,

25:40

it was starting to dump again at

25:42

Baker's start to get gnarly. And

25:42

like, where I was like, in my

25:46

head, I'm like, I'm not going

25:46

anywhere. You know, and so Dave

25:50

was like, I think, Hey, Mike,

25:50

you know, if you're coming with

25:55

us, we're gonna finish this

25:55

fucking movie. I know, he's

25:58

pissed that we didn't get shots

25:58

at Baker of me and like, his

26:03

like, basically your, you know,

26:03

you're coming with me. And I was

26:07

like, okay, but I'm writing

26:07

today. I was like, fucking, it's

26:10

sick. And so he, John and I

26:10

think you just everybody often

26:14

just take that morning off. It

26:14

was like probably big, wet heavy

26:17

morning, and just kick it for a

26:17

minute. Probably go to the

26:22

snowboard shop or whatever. And

26:22

so I get off, and I rode to like

26:28

330 I was like, No, I'll just go

26:28

take couple fucking runs. Are we

26:31

done by 11? fucking whatever.

26:31

Yeah. Okay, cool. And, uh,

26:36

probably roll into the Mount

26:36

Baker snowboard shopping like

26:38

you know 313 fi just talk shit

26:38

with dowless for fucking there

26:43

now or just like, making you

26:43

fucking idiot. You know, and

26:48

then finally looked over it Dave

26:48

and Dave was just like looking

26:52

looking at me like, Are you

26:52

fucking kidding? The we wait,

26:56

we're waiting all day. Like

26:56

basically, I could have been in

27:00

Tahoe by now. Certainly. Way

27:00

past Portland. And he just taken

27:04

off this morning like he wanted

27:04

to. And in that moment Yeah, I

27:11

felt I felt a little bad. Just

27:11

in that moment, but not as bad

27:16

as he felt in the next moment

27:16

when I told him that Yeah, that

27:22

sucks. You've waited for me

27:22

because I'm actually just gonna

27:25

stay here and ride for the next

27:25

week. It's like too good fucking

27:30

sorry. And it was like he did I

27:30

mean I don't think he's ever let

27:35

me off the hook for that there's

27:35

there's a little fucking there's

27:39

a little burn inside cod I think

27:39

anytime you here's my Ranquet

27:43

Oh, yeah. Oh yeah. That and I

27:43

fucking kicked his ass

27:46

backgammon game at his house. In

27:46

in Tahoe. He I mean, it was like

27:53

four out of seven games or

27:53

something like that. It was like

27:56

yeah, one game and two out of

27:56

three and three out of four or

27:59

whatever it goes. And he was

27:59

always pissed about that what I

28:04

was rubbed that into, but uh

28:04

yeah, I don't think I've ever

28:10

lived down this just is at the

28:10

end of the day again just making

28:16

them way all day that fucking

28:16

sweaty, dumb ass car. You know

28:21

it's got probably had chains on

28:21

it and shit. And I just I roll

28:24

in with the fucking crag and you

28:24

know in his fucking heated

28:28

whatever he was driving at the

28:28

time and yeah, to the snow.

28:33

We're chopping the whole way

28:33

down Craig and I were discussing

28:35

it and you know, we both got the

28:35

implications like fucking how it

28:40

COD's first but you know you

28:40

want to fucking show face and at

28:45

the same time as fucking Baker

28:45

and we want to ride and that was

28:50

really funny to me to see when

28:50

he was so fucking it was a blow

28:55

out just like steam coming out

28:55

as fucking nose and ears. Just

29:01

fuck you Ranquet You know, so I

29:01

saw them off sciatica wave

29:08

goodbye to the though they'll

29:08

film crew they met up with them

29:12

a week later in Big Bear so they

29:12

went back to Tahoe like limped

29:15

that big piece of shit back down

29:15

to Tahoe. Meanwhile, I'm just

29:18

fucking doing laps with the Holy

29:18

One. And like just killing it

29:23

just having so much fun. And

29:23

let's see. I think they may be

29:29

filmed a little in Tahoe. I

29:29

think that may or may have been

29:35

where I got. I got them. Dave

29:35

Yeah, Dave hooked up with Jamie

29:41

and all them. Yeah, they went to

29:41

Tahoe. There's a couple of

29:43

little weird little Tahoe shoots

29:43

that I was in at. There were

29:46

Millia Dave only had certain

29:46

dudes in it. He didn't want he

29:49

didn't want Damian he didn't

29:49

want the and Damian knew that

29:52

Damien was cool. Like Damien got

29:52

everything at the time. And he

29:55

understood like, like, you know,

29:55

I'm the one that like literally

29:59

got him To ride soft boots

29:59

finally in soften normal

30:03

bindings, and but like he kind

30:03

of knew it was it was too late

30:10

in that sense like his his image

30:10

was burned in you know it was it

30:15

was a cool I liked Damian I used

30:15

to hang out with him quite a bit

30:19

like yeah jack to his wife all

30:19

the time she was fucking out she

30:25

just slipped the little views

30:25

nipple shots, he was like

30:29

really? fuck, I gotta go to the

30:29

bathroom. You got any lotion? Or

30:34

just any cooking oil? No, it was

30:34

yeah, that was some fun shit.

30:41

But yeah, so this roadkill trip,

30:41

we go down to Big Bear and I

30:46

think I flew down there and I

30:46

was hanging out with vert and

30:50

probably Yeah, just hold the

30:50

marker. Trying to think of the

30:59

Mountain High maybe. Yeah. Okay,

30:59

yeah, do you remember that trip

31:05

we went down? I was there for

31:05

New Year's Eve to hang out with

31:09

I think Billy Ruff, trying to

31:09

think who was writing for I was

31:17

writing for Lamar at that. No. Anyways, did some coke with

31:18

Billy Ruff on New Year's Eve one

31:22

of those fucking years in there

31:22

and then I think that's when we

31:26

had Bert and I drove up to Big

31:26

Bear and basically he dropped me

31:29

off to just filmed with cod and

31:29

the boys for a week and that was

31:34

a super fun session. I really

31:34

liked that shit. It was like

31:38

that just that little it was the

31:38

first time we ever really rode

31:42

stuff that was meant to be

31:42

written it was it was built to

31:45

be written like that, like whoa,

31:45

they built jumps like that's

31:48

crazy. Or like really the first

31:48

time you would hit something

31:52

you'd be missing two or three

31:52

other little jumps so you're not

31:56

getting everything like it was a

31:56

trip there's so many options it

31:59

was like being in space or

31:59

something but really fun step up

32:03

jumps everywhere like seafood

32:03

like step up into butter things

32:08

or just a lot of for me being

32:08

goofy footer a lot of just toe

32:13

side backside spin like 540s

32:13

Like you know, just the way the

32:18

angles of everything on that

32:18

trip was set up. Set up good for

32:22

me. It's Friday perilla on then

32:22

them I mean, what might have

32:27

been the first iteration of of

32:27

that park Mahaffey was there I

32:33

mean, he was still in diapers

32:33

that's crazy. Now there and so

32:38

yeah, there's like there's a lot

32:38

of new different writing going

32:43

on of which was captured by say,

32:43

little sections of some films,

32:49

the foul line films like you

32:49

know, a freestyle moment with

32:52

bla bla bla then it was back to

32:52

fucking this you know, Warren

32:56

Miller ish type shots, you know,

32:56

then whereas like Mack dog was

33:02

it was just that that at that

33:02

point probably just high a you

33:06

know, it was so the quality

33:06

wasn't there. I would just say

33:10

that you know, definitely had

33:10

that foul line sheen to it at

33:15

the time. And but Dave did

33:15

something different it was the

33:21

same year release so we filmed

33:21

it all and it came out weeks

33:24

later and he would have a lot of

33:24

shit to go through I remember

33:28

just thinking kind of like I

33:28

didn't know what we film that

33:31

would make it in the film that

33:31

was it just kind of like doing

33:35

all these little tricks stuff.

33:35

But those were the seeds that

33:40

that that just infected so many

33:40

people and the reason people

33:46

remember that with such like you

33:46

know such good memories is

33:53

because to a certain extent they

33:53

could all go do almost every

34:00

trick in the movie. At least try

34:00

him or you know, they could

34:05

probably do them to you know, it

34:05

probably looked like shit doing

34:08

it but you know, but that was

34:08

that was an appeal like even the

34:16

the mack dog movies at that time

34:16

and going forward just got

34:21

really technical kind of like

34:21

stupid technical it was just

34:25

such a perfect mix that they the

34:25

those movies they've made I

34:29

think they're really important

34:29

and in kind of like getting that

34:34

again that West Coast skater guy

34:34

demographic that's about my age

34:38

and still rides today and you

34:38

know, the backbone of the

34:42

fucking industry you know, like

34:42

they're looking at this film

34:46

with like, you know, Terry Eva

34:46

came and say that fuckers name

34:51

and you know good for that

34:51

because you know fuck kill him

34:55

off in time anyways. Okay couple

34:55

minor in her shins but uh yeah,

35:03

roadkill it was it it kicked off

35:03

a lot of a lot of things spawned

35:12

a lot of things it was. It was

35:12

the, like the catalyst you know

35:18

of just a bum rush on

35:18

snowboarding I have a lot of

35:23

people that were on the fence a

35:23

friends of mine that skated and

35:27

people I knew basically, you

35:27

know, the next year like Scott

35:30

smile, he was living up a baker

35:30

with me or you know what I mean?

35:33

My skater friends were actually

35:33

like, they were snowboarding

35:36

they saw it now they're like,

35:36

oh, that sick or, and it wasn't

35:39

just the tricks. It was like,

35:39

they're starting to understand

35:42

that you know, there's a nother

35:42

like mountain aspect to it. It's

35:45

not just this and and roadkill

35:45

didn't show that at all. But RPM

35:56

did I had a I had some good

35:56

shots from up in Canada. I was

36:02

heli skiing up there, like with

36:02

Glen plake? You know, yeah,

36:05

sometimes you go on trips. Like

36:05

say I was up there with Glenn.

36:09

And we were shooting I forgot.

36:09

Forgot who's shooting. But yeah,

36:16

just my footage went to rpm and

36:16

Glenn's went to whatever

36:21

ridiculous stupid movie he was

36:21

doing at the time. And you know,

36:26

like, there's a lot of okay,

36:26

there's shots of me in the

36:30

sessions video. I don't know is

36:30

from Canada. Blah, blah, blah.

36:37

But they're cool shots Bill

36:37

gallon that's who shot the other

36:40

show whatever. He shot the shots

36:40

to from the heli all the stuff.

36:44

But it was it was I saw was it

36:44

smooth through reception. All of

36:50

Craig shots. No. Hawk. In fact,

36:50

I think all Craig shots went

36:55

into Terry's film and all my

36:55

shots went into the sessions

37:04

movie, so I mean, I think I had

37:04

never actually seen that movie,

37:11

like, whatever we wanted. It was

37:11

it was one of the Hockin movies

37:15

that Dave did. And they're both

37:15

they're all of them were great.

37:18

Was for that way. But he has

37:18

this moment where Terry, you

37:23

know, like, I don't think I ever

37:23

watched that movie back then.

37:26

Or, like, I kind of just didn't

37:26

watch most of the movies and

37:30

maybe catch a corner of it, you

37:30

know, my sections for sure. At

37:34

the premiere. But, you know,

37:34

there wasn't like say we were in

37:38

the in the editing bay. That was

37:38

a it was a manual app at that

37:43

point name named Dave. So but

37:43

yeah, no real kills rad. You

37:49

know, like I got, I got Cardiel on, on

37:50

Lamar on that trip. And then

37:57

after we were done filming that

37:57

we went to Japan, probably for

38:02

like, two trips within, you

38:02

know, four weeks of each other

38:05

or something. We're just hanging

38:05

out in writing, like he was up

38:09

at Baker lot. He was, you know,

38:09

weif he noticed his shots, he's

38:15

always got like the Oh, our

38:15

gloves. You know, from Seattle,

38:19

we used I would say pick them up

38:19

at the airport. And, you know,

38:24

go by my house, probably pick up

38:24

some boards at Bert center for

38:27

us. And then the next step would

38:27

be like hitting the O R. Dude.

38:33

And it was a pretty small

38:33

operation at the time that I

38:36

don't even think they had retail

38:36

store. I mean, they were sold in

38:38

some stores. But that was the

38:38

first year they had like the pre

38:43

modulated fucking the pre curve

38:43

in cards is still stoked on

38:48

that, like, the last time I saw

38:48

him like, say, a Simon Hawaii a

38:51

year and a half ago, two years

38:51

ago. And he was like, Mike, you

38:54

know, you still got the

38:54

precursors, like, and he put his

38:57

hand up like that. Because I

38:57

would just be like John, he says

39:00

the stick is oh RS fucking

39:00

GoreTex pre curve, you know? And

39:06

it was just funny shit. So,

39:06

yeah, I'm just flooded with all

39:13

sorts of fucking bullshit

39:13

memories before I bury him again

39:17

for another 30 years. Right.

39:17

But, you know, the next part

39:23

like Big Bear, that was a really

39:23

fun trip, say a couple of

39:27

different levels. I did go Yeah,

39:27

Billy rough cocaine thing. That

39:34

was what I was writing for GNS

39:34

probably the year before two

39:36

years before, but that did

39:36

happen. And I think Steve Kathy

39:41

was there to Hester would have

39:41

he would have been overseeing he

39:45

would have been the liaison

39:45

between the cartels and us you

39:50

know, so we had HESTA that's

39:50

cool. No, does that wasn't wild

39:56

like that fucking those guys

39:56

took care good care of me. I was

39:59

Kid, but then a New Years of Now I had so much fun then. But

40:05

okay, so getting back to

40:09

roadkill Big Bear so yeah, I

40:09

think Palmer showed up to two

40:13

film there. And at the same time

40:13

it was like guys like you

40:18

though. Yeah, there are all

40:18

sorts of snippets of different

40:22

writers I remember Mahaffey for

40:22

sure. And there a couple other

40:26

was still a couple other dudes,

40:26

I can't remember exactly who but

40:31

like, you know, so all these

40:31

kids, and I would have been

40:35

like, you know, the biggest of

40:35

these kids. What do you call it

40:40

just writing and just doing it?

40:40

Not different style tricks, but

40:44

it was starting to really take

40:44

hold. And, you know, Palmer was

40:49

he was kind of tripping, like,

40:49

on their own. He would like,

40:53

like, we were riding together

40:53

and he'd be like, damn, Ranquet

40:58

fucking, and secure fucking

40:58

Rabbah Yeah, he's he wasn't

41:02

really it was it was just kind

41:02

of it was a trip it was I felt

41:06

like a total changing in the

41:06

guards. Like, in that moment,

41:10

you know what I mean? Like.

41:10

That's the last time I saw her.

41:15

Pretty much, probably. I'd love

41:15

to see I did. But you know, it

41:19

wasn't a bad moment or nothing

41:19

like that. It was just him just

41:24

kind of looking around. And

41:24

realizing like, you know, this

41:28

is a different kind of scene.

41:28

And like, I remember the next

41:32

day, he put a bunch of Ranquet

41:32

stickers on his board, you know,

41:37

and everybody hated Lamar. So

41:37

for any, like Palmer or Craig to

41:41

put a Ranquet sticker on their

41:41

boards, I was always stoked on

41:46

that. You know, it was like,

41:46

they put fucking they liked me

41:50

so much. So put verla Mars name

41:50

on their board too. So yeah, so

41:55

that was that was a trip though.

41:55

Another another first on that

41:59

one. A rented a car la X, you

41:59

know, some advantage rental, you

42:04

know, where he just had to be 18

42:04

and, you know, have a fucking

42:08

have given blood and last year

42:08

or something like that, you

42:12

know? But anyways, I remember

42:12

the dude. I remember Burt going

42:17

get it insured, make sure you

42:17

get full insurance. And so I was

42:21

like, Yeah, I need full

42:21

insurance. And he's like, Oh,

42:25

yeah. Okay, and then you send me

42:25

for that. He's like, Oh, that

42:30

just means. I mean, you could

42:30

just you wouldn't even have to

42:34

bring the car back. This thing

42:34

could just come back on a

42:38

fucking tow truck. Like this

42:38

thing's insured to the teeth to

42:43

and I'm just sitting there

42:43

listening to this guy gone.

42:47

Really? Really? Really? Really?

42:47

Okay, so I can you know, cut to

42:51

you know, two days later a big

42:51

bear somewhere. And I can never

42:56

remember if we're filmed at Snow

42:56

summit or big bear that those

43:00

two. Yeah, whatever. You know

43:00

what I mean? If you've been

43:04

there, they're the same. But um,

43:04

yeah, I just slammed it into

43:09

some fucking some ice wall and a

43:09

big bear total that fucking hard

43:14

and had to have it towed away.

43:14

And, like, it was so sick,

43:18

though. And you know, completely

43:18

completely spun that was a spin

43:23

in this thing out with that in

43:23

mind, like, Dude, I can do

43:27

anything with this card. Just

43:27

kind of like having that

43:31

realization like, Dude, I can

43:31

just go rent a car lax and just

43:35

fucking hammer it and like, take

43:35

a bag and just, you know, so

43:40

that was the first of many of

43:40

those over the years. Yeah, some

43:44

days if I was say, only in

43:44

Seattle, just for like four days

43:48

or five days. I just rent a car

43:48

in Seattle. You know, for those

43:53

four days, I would even get a

43:53

ride home and then drive my car

43:57

you'd arrive back there. I just

43:57

get a car rental car like, like

44:02

I was just staying there for

44:02

five days, which I was and just

44:06

rally the fuck out of that

44:06

rental car to like, because you

44:11

know, like it was I knew all the

44:11

roads where I could jump them

44:15

and shit like that. Cars. Having

44:15

fun in cars that huge. Huge in

44:20

my life. I love that shit. Ah,

44:20

but roadkill that cars and then

44:24

huge fat that car that's so rad.

44:24

But now that was the first time

44:29

really hanging out with Gooch

44:29

was on that trip, but not

44:33

really. That was definitely I

44:33

remember. I had heard of him

44:37

before that trip. And so it was

44:37

interesting. He was sponsored by

44:42

Burton at that point like Burton

44:42

had picked him up and they

44:46

wanted him on the strip and say,

44:46

his you know, he wasn't really

44:51

known yet at that point. So

44:51

whoever like advise Dave to put

44:55

him you know, make sure he gets

44:55

some time in front of camera.

45:00

That was that was a good call

45:00

because yeah, he was a Yeah, a

45:04

perfect fucking vehicle to for

45:04

this this new solution no no it

45:08

wasn't was it was a total

45:08

changing of the guards and it

45:13

was it was in yeah just having

45:13

Sione there filming it just made

45:17

just made it feel like it wasn't

45:17

some harsh like fuck you know

45:22

this is a new shit it was cool

45:22

like it was all like everyone's

45:26

part of it and let's see so big

45:26

bear I think that's last I film

45:31

price stayed down there big bear

45:31

for a couple of weeks for went

45:35

back home and yeah at that point

45:35

had had already written Alaska

45:40

in our email so yeah it's funny

45:40

is I think it was fun to just

45:44

kind of do that filming in the

45:44

fall this two or three years in

45:49

a row. Because it was relaxing.

45:51

I t wasn't like fucking you know

45:51

the last time I would have had

45:54

snowboard it would have been in

45:54

Alaska and New Zealand. And

45:59

fucking distress buckets, you

45:59

know? But yeah, roadkill was a

46:04

trip the music was fucking it

46:04

was so fucking spot on. And

46:12

yeah, that's that was the first

46:12

year I released my Heineken

46:17

graphic with the pool table on

46:17

top, which, like, changed the

46:21

whole face of snowboard graphics

46:21

forever. I mean, sure, somebody

46:27

would have stumbled into

46:27

something stupid at some point.

46:29

But I was able to just ride this

46:29

fine line of like doing a skate

46:34

style graphic that would still

46:34

look good on a big ass snowboard

46:38

and people would actually buy

46:38

it, you know, because you know

46:41

skate skateboards are 50 bucks

46:41

or whatever, you know, feel you

46:46

know, so you're not that vested

46:46

but snowboard you know it and

46:51

you know up to that point the

46:51

snowboard graphics were just

46:53

like you know, ski graphics they

46:53

were just like a little fucking

46:56

a number just like they are now

46:56

basically exactly how they are

47:00

now and someone something had to

47:00

turn it upside down and and

47:07

yeah, that's That's why Bert got

47:07

me. You know, he's like, you

47:11

know, we knew each other good enough. He knew I had good ideas. He knew I was tuned into

47:13

skating and knew that yeah, I

47:17

come up with something good and

47:17

and that yeah, that was killer.

47:20

So the film just represented

47:20

like a lot you know, and again,

47:25

the I think the marquee Bill was

47:25

Cardiel just him snowboarding it

47:34

just legitimized the entire in

47:34

the entirety of the sport just

47:38

boom boom. And then you know, I

47:38

remember there's a shot of him

47:43

on that ramp in Colorado where

47:43

he's doing the front side dolly

47:47

and he's got like fucking to the

47:47

Ranquet Heineken shirt on I was

47:50

so stoked that was in the film

47:50

was like rad and Cardiel was

47:53

like got my shirt on sick Yeah,

47:53

do that was some fun shit. Well,

48:01

I guess that's a that's a good

48:01

run right? Talk some shit on

48:05

Roadkill. And we'll see what the

48:05

responses are like and maybe do

48:09

a kind of a rpm. Yeah, this

48:09

could

48:15

prompt me to do the, my the DVD

48:15

voiceovers you know, I never

48:20

come out of character to I'm

48:20

done with a DVD voiceovers now

48:24

want to do that, like just pop

48:24

on Roadkill, or pop on rpm and,

48:29

and just kind of talk story as

48:29

it's playing. And you know, just

48:34

the different part. But I kind

48:34

of did that today. I didn't

48:38

really go through the whole I

48:38

didn't watch the movie today. I

48:43

got watch a second of it. And I

48:43

was like, fuck, I ripped now. I

48:48

totally see why people are

48:48

stoked on me. No, so All right.

48:52

Motherfuckers huge cheers to you

48:52

for fucking being alive. Jaime.

48:57

tarea everyone in that film Kurt

48:57

el fucking behalfs has anyone

49:02

from roadkill? Is there any dead

49:02

fucking roadkill dudes? Is this

49:07

a inappropriate question? Okay,

49:07

we need a road show. rollcall

49:11

roadshow road called just

49:11

checking on the dead. Check in

49:16

on the debt. Oh, yeah. teria I

49:16

knew somebody Terry is dead. I

49:20

mean, you know he you know what

49:20

I mean? With exception Terry a

49:25

fucking no known for that moves

49:25

died. So that's a good one. So

49:30

if you're in that movie, you're

49:30

stuck because you're still

49:34

alive. So, you know, maybe next

49:34

time we watch it just to be like

49:39

kind of stoked. All those people

49:39

are still there. But yeah, it

49:44

was 30 years ago. This week we

49:44

begin filming it like basically

49:49

tomorrow. 30 years ago ish.

49:49

would have been like, the first

49:53

days in BRAC filming and brackin

49:53

fucking getting some butters on

49:58

film. Which is funny. No, but uh

49:58

but I get it shit that people

50:03

can do that's what they want to

50:03

see it connects them to the

50:08

sport connects everybody you

50:08

know they're not just like, like

50:12

under reverse fucking bluff flip

50:12

and that it's like that that all

50:17

that talk just fucking just as

50:17

blown out the window nobody

50:22

fucking cares about that shit we

50:22

need to come out with a I mean

50:27

I've always thought a roadkill

50:27

fucking 3.0 right now like,

50:32

basically next year you'll film

50:32

I mean again we're basically

50:37

we're all still live I mean

50:37

except for fucking hocking

50:42

fucking dead fucking fuck that

50:42

guy yeah I've alwa ys thought

50:47

that I've worked in I think I

50:47

put in the suggestion box Dave

50:52

suggestion box at some point

50:52

probably got to just yeah I

50:57

don't know whatever okay fucking

50:57

road kill was funny okay When

51:02

you start to hear that that's

51:02

pretty much signifying the end of

51:08

Rad Matters is brought to you by

51:08

Telos Snowboards pretty much the

51:14

best fucking boards in the world

51:14

which is and my unwavering wit .

51:20

I’m funny as hell. I hate myself

51:20

and I want to die trying to make

51:26

the world a better place for I

51:26

don't know for someone at some

51:32

point but definitely not the

51:32

crew that snowboarding right now

51:38

I tried to make the world a

51:38

better place and they fucking

51:43

blew it