In this episode we chat to Lee Vinsel and Andrew Russell authors of The Innovation Delusion (2020), where they take on 'innovation speak' and advocate for a greater focus on what keeps the world  going - maintenance. Interview starts ~20min mark.

Lee Vinsel is a Professor ub the Department of Science, Technology, and Society at Virginia Tech.

Andrew Russell is a Professor of History and the Dean of the College of Arts and Sciences at SUNY Polytechnic Institute.

• The Innovation Delusion
• Lee Vinsel / @STS_News
• Andrew Russell  / @RussellProf
• The Maintainers

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