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To the Ring of Brodgar

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1:25

The wind is still blowing on the mainland

1:27

of Aube. So I'm heading all

1:29

towards a

1:30

stone. And this is when I find

1:32

Saint Germila, because you knew this is the stone

1:34

to come too. Why did you know? Yeah. It's it's

1:36

an angel secret hero, aren't we? It doesn't

1:39

matter what direction new one's blowing

1:40

in. There's always a standing stone tied behind.

1:43

And also, the sheep had been here. So you knew

1:45

it was a good one. Yes. You know it's a good one, mate.

1:48

It is a really fierce and wind

1:50

today. The sun has just come out there and actually

1:52

these stones are 4 casting shadows

1:55

across the field around

1:56

us. These are not just any old stones. No.

1:58

Absolutely not. This this is the

2:00

standing stones of stainless. Part

2:02

of the heart of Mia like the gauntlet bottle headed,

2:04

it looks like. So you will have seen either

2:06

being too physically or seen photos

2:09

of of Stonehenge. Same

2:11

idea. Same idea. The earliest

2:13

dips from Stonehenge is clear on

2:15

the same day as people were built in stone

2:17

set for us here too in Northland. There

2:19

are four of them left. How many

2:22

would originally Originally, we think there

2:24

was space for twelve, but only eleven

2:26

stones may be appeared to have actually

2:28

arrived here and be put in place. We're

2:30

twelve a bit of a magic

2:32

number. We don't think so.

2:34

We don't think so. I'm just

2:35

thinking of a cloth face. Absolutely. Everybody

2:38

says that, but, you know, we have a tendency

2:40

to, 4 of their infrastructure in our minds. So

2:42

we tend to look for patterns. So we can't

2:44

say for Seth, and, you know, we would like to think

2:46

it was maybe twelve full moons every

2:48

year, but you know, we just don't know.

2:51

We are not far here from STRONESS. That's

2:53

the nearest town. And actually, not

2:55

far from Kirkwood either. It ended about fifteen

2:57

minutes. From there. In terms of the

3:00

where we are on the mainland,

3:03

are

3:03

we kind of west side of the center?

3:06

Yep. We are. We're in the west mean,

3:08

London 4.

3:09

It's no accident. We called the world ahead to

3:11

take the heart of New Olympic Academy. If

3:13

you want to have a look on the map, we're an OS explorer

3:16

463, which is all knee, West

3:18

mainland, strongness, and great to

3:20

say. And actually, I have a greater reference.

3:22

If you want to find the stains of thin ass, you can

3:24

either stick them into a search engine and have

3:26

a look at them. Or we are at

3:28

grid reference HY306125.

3:34

Very well signposted as well because it's very

3:36

famous

3:36

site. I'm you're an archaeologist.

3:38

You're what? No. I'm not. Oh, no. You're an archaeologist.

3:41

As far as I'm concerned. Okay. Should

3:46

we try and walk a bit? Yes. We

3:48

might not be able to walk and talk, which is the

3:50

same because that's points to the

3:51

program. We'll walk -- Yeah. -- talk to her.

3:54

Will the race? Will the race still be fine. What's

3:57

the circuit that you wanted to say? Well, what I'd like

3:59

to do, ideally, today. It's actually

4:01

taking up to the ring of Broadgood, which is just about

4:03

a mile along the road. Okay. We'll

4:05

go past the watch during which you can see just

4:07

over there. And it's a circular walk

4:09

that's actually a really popular walk here in

4:11

Normandy. It is very, very muddy

4:13

to be. So there might be a bit of a squishness we

4:16

go. And

4:19

then we will be here. We can do it though or away.

4:21

We can go away for that just for pity bag.

4:23

Yeah. And, of course, just a cross there.

4:26

You can see the Tumutmeitau. At

4:28

the far side, it's filled. And

4:30

then just a cross here we've got barn

4:32

house in the Olympic village as well.

4:36

You know what I'm saying here or not, that if you

4:38

scratch the surface, it bleeds archaeology

4:40

and nowhere is that more to than he has

4:43

in this piece of landscape. There's

4:47

a random standing stone over there

4:49

as on its own. Yes. That's the

4:51

watch stone. It actually was one

4:53

of a pair of stones that kinda

4:56

may have marked up an

4:58

avenue or walkway that actually

5:00

lagged the two stones at Rosiea. That's

5:04

it. Just

5:06

in the field next to the red roof cottage,

5:08

that wooden cottage

5:10

named after the wooden stone, which

5:13

was a big stone that had a hole in the middle.

5:15

And it was where people

5:18

could perform not only mileages.

5:20

It was believed that had healing power

5:24

and it was used for hundreds and

5:26

hundreds of years up until eighteen

5:28

fourteen when a local farmer

5:30

demolished it. No. Go.

5:48

Oh, right. Oh my

5:50

word. I

5:52

made it to the watch stone and

5:55

almost fallen into it. It is

5:57

That wind is so strong. You can't even

6:00

talk to each other. Let alone record anything.

6:02

But I was just seeing how far this steam loss

6:05

go down. To not be blown

6:07

out? Absolutely. As a rule of thumb,

6:09

generally, when you look at standing stones,

6:11

you should maybe expect about two thirds

6:13

of the ground and one third under this.

6:16

And this has got about thirty

6:18

feet above ground. Yeah.

6:21

Smilling. That's huge You

6:25

know that person? Yeah. Of

6:29

course. If

6:31

don't know them, they knew me. Yeah. The woman in the yellow

6:33

coat. Yeah.

6:38

Yes. So the watch stone was one of her pair of

6:40

stones. There's a local legend associated

6:43

with a stone. Thought

6:45

to say that the ring of Brodgar is

6:47

not a set of the standing stones It's

6:49

a circle of stone giants that were

6:51

turned to stone. The story

6:53

goes they were allowed to come and party

6:56

at But the deal was they

6:58

had to be 4 sun up. So

7:01

they set their stone down here

7:03

to watch for the sun coming up.

7:05

They danced and danced and danced. These

7:08

giants had a great time. And

7:10

slowly, the sun began to come up.

7:12

The giant don't hear he shouted any call,

7:15

disc frames up there. Stop. The horn.

7:17

The horn. The horn. The horn is

7:19

coming up. But they couldn't he run because the

7:21

Fedler was playing too loud. Unfortunately,

7:24

as the sun came up slowly one by one,

7:26

they turned to stone. The reservoir

7:28

warned for trying to be good.

7:30

This stone is allowed to bend down

7:32

and have a drink out of the law here on

7:35

New Year's Day. Like all

7:37

good fairy stories, there's a downside to it.

7:39

If you should happen to be passing, you

7:41

too will be coming to stone. Oh. So you

7:43

can't come this way. would about your

7:46

eyes. Until

7:48

people really kind of not come down

7:50

here on years. No. Oh, let's go.

7:52

Yeah. Yeah. And and Acadian mothers

7:54

often tell their kids if they're at Broad got to listen

7:56

to the stones really carefully because they're

7:58

still trying to move and

8:00

dance. It's a good way keeping quietly.

8:02

There is a movement on the stone there. Yeah.

8:04

Because the patterning of it, it

8:07

looks like the scream

8:09

You know the airbag. It's

8:11

that kind of the lines

8:13

on it that are like

8:15

waves. It's really these They

8:18

aren't beautiful stones. You

8:20

know, somebody chose the stone, you can

8:22

set up their stone, thought about

8:24

their

8:24

stone, and then decided to move

8:27

it here. But

8:27

also then moved it here. That's right. And it's

8:30

an investment at time and thought,

8:32

you know, These are not something that a couple

8:34

of books, I know Sunday, but I've had a great idea.

8:36

Let's stick this stone up. You know, this is to work

8:38

with 4 whole community. It's

8:40

gonna be gorgeous light. Yeah.

8:43

Because we're walking in the afternoon and

8:45

the sun will start to go

8:46

down. Just 4 five,

8:48

do you think? Yeah. Just for a quarter to five five

8:50

And what do you call that time of day? The Ramblings.

8:53

The gremlins. It's like half dark

8:56

time. You know what? It's it's it's

8:58

neither daylight. Not night time.

9:00

Twilight. It's a best description for it.

9:02

Let me call it the gremlins here, GRIM.

9:05

Yeah. LEENA. All our kitchen

9:07

wands are spelt exactly the way this

9:09

sound.

9:15

We're walking over a Tarmac

9:17

road. I mean, it's a low level

9:19

bridge between two lots. So

9:22

it looks like sea all around us, but in fact,

9:24

it's inland water.

9:26

So this one on this side is Harvey Locke

9:29

and this one on this side is stainless Locke

9:32

honey locket to fresh water lock.

9:35

This one here is stainless. The

9:37

water here is brackish. So to make

9:40

sure to see what doesn't flash water. So

9:42

don't know if we're gonna see any

9:43

today, but we get seals

9:45

in the lake here. Oh,

9:46

really? Yeah. We sometimes see them

9:49

on the rock, feel better. They've got more sense

9:51

in us to think they're excited.

9:55

Two swans in their cigarettes. Yeah.

10:01

And then take a bit of shelter just

10:03

by this house, which is a blue corrugated

10:07

metal bungalow. Everything

10:09

on Auckland's bungalow's nest.

10:11

Perfect. But just a bit. Just a

10:13

bit. Well, we let you have to dive in.

10:15

To get out of the wind to have a conversation. Cassandra

10:18

wants to know about your life change. Uh-huh.

10:21

No massive career shift. Did you now work

10:23

for historic environment in

10:25

Scotland? I didn't sit out to be a beaten

10:27

chair, and I was still not very sure what I want

10:29

to be when I go out. I left school,

10:31

trained this ash, Had the kids,

10:34

went into social care, then

10:37

had an opportunity just to completely change,

10:40

and best in session I haven't made.

10:42

I went back and

10:45

studied at the University of The Highlands and Islands,

10:47

which had just kind of started up. And

10:49

the benefit that the University of New Orleans

10:51

and Islands have is, you know,

10:54

during COVID, we

10:56

had to find ways of teaching it

10:58

remotely. But here in the highlands and islands,

11:00

we've been doing it for at least twenty years. So

11:02

I was among some of the first people to study

11:04

cultural heritage here actually

11:07

in the community that I was studying, so it

11:09

was really quite nice. And I kinda

11:11

came to this job By

11:14

accident, in two thousand and five,

11:16

I just applied for this job, sounded

11:18

like a good idea. Originally, it was just a

11:20

three year contract. So

11:22

eighteen years later, nobody's

11:25

told me to stop, so I'm gonna keep doing what I

11:27

do. You're kind about soft to

11:29

fuck your meat. So Because fuck are really

11:31

enthusiastic when they come to

11:34

army as well. Who's that?

11:36

That's one of the locals far match. Oh, right. I'll

11:38

I'll use Gator. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And you'll be

11:41

gone. wonder what she's doing today. But

11:44

yeah, you you get to meet 4 who are so enthusiastic

11:47

about the place that you love, and

11:49

it's a constant reminder. That

11:52

best level corners of the world is

11:55

really important, not just us

11:57

who will appear back to everybody else as well,

11:59

and it's just as

12:00

special. Does that make sense?

12:02

Yeah. You know?

12:07

They were just coming up. To

12:09

the next Brodgar archaeological excavation.

12:12

You know, and my tenure here in the Ranger

12:14

service, it's been a really exciting

12:16

time because we've

12:18

seen this that we can go in the park. Just down

12:21

here, we've seen this excavation grow

12:23

and it's changing how we think

12:25

about NIO that life, not

12:28

just here or north, but across the rest of

12:30

the country. And it also

12:32

has really put this area on the

12:34

map. So everything that you

12:36

see from here, this

12:39

whole kind of wheel back reg

12:41

up to the double story farmhouse is

12:44

the next abroad just site. The

12:46

whole area is full of

12:48

archaeology. You see in Scotland, it's Orchard.

12:52

And underneath here, there is

12:54

a complex of neolithic

12:57

buildings that

12:59

are huge. They're

13:01

more than just as pilot stones to

13:04

keep the rain off. They really are monumental. They

13:08

excavate here every year for about

13:10

six weeks, and then the rest

13:12

the year has undertaken, you

13:15

know, post excavation work and things like

13:17

that.

13:26

Oh my word. Even

13:31

the sheep are running for cover. Now look at them

13:33

properly running, hailstorm has come in and we could

13:36

see it coming. I thought it was just gonna

13:38

be dragged out into the middle of the lock and

13:40

we did and we would avoid it.

13:43

But it's hit us, so we turned

13:45

our backs to it. But you can

13:47

see those hailstones being chased across.

13:50

And that sheep over there has got a real

13:52

look on. That's, you know,

13:54

sprinting towards some sort of

13:56

shelter. You can feel the wind

13:58

get up. Yeah. And when the wind gets up like that,

14:00

you know that the show were coming. But

14:02

the thing about the shoes today, people wonder not me

14:04

that describes this type of shoe. It's a splashy

14:07

shoe. It means it comes in really fast,

14:09

socks you, and goes up really quickly. So

14:12

we've just had one. And as you can see, blue

14:14

skies coming in right behind

14:15

us. And rising

14:17

up like giant fingers from

14:19

the ground. The ring of Brodgar.

14:22

Perhaps twenty

14:23

stones. Thirty stones. Thirty stones. Thirty

14:26

stones. They are like Yeah. They are they are

14:28

stomps. Some lie end and flat.

14:31

Some are still standing. And some of them have

14:33

AAA sharp edge to

14:35

them. So they they look like

14:38

Like a a tool, like a sharp tool.

14:40

Yeah.

14:41

Otley's geology does kind of naturally split

14:44

like that. And

14:46

we also sit off with them to some left, something

14:48

like that. But the amount of time and

14:50

effort they went into moving these stones, digging

14:52

the dachshundling,

14:53

they'd want in the flat on top. They would have made them

14:55

flat. So they may

14:57

be there for a purpose. Okay. But

15:00

they go the angles are different on different

15:03

sides. So some slip to the left and

15:05

some to the right.

15:05

Mhmm. Is there a pattern to it?

15:08

No pattern at all. There's a lot of speculation

15:10

about it. Some folks say that

15:12

they created miniature version of the landscape

15:14

in which they set because we're in

15:17

a not chiller arm fifty or we can't quite

15:19

see it from the low cloud today, but

15:21

we are kind of surrounded by a bola health.

15:24

And they say that these shapes reflect

15:27

the mirror and mirror the valleys and

15:29

the hills that surround us.

15:31

The hills that we can see there where that cloud

15:34

is settled but rays of

15:36

light coming down on either side. What

15:38

are they? That's Hoy.

15:41

That's island of Hoy, girl that will ban toys,

15:43

the dwarfy stone. It

15:45

kinda dominates partly

15:48

skyline because the hills there are bigger

15:50

than anything. And it's a different kind of land scale

15:52

than we have on the mainland. You know, we're looking

15:55

over here kinda into the west

15:57

mainland at low green flat ruling

15:59

kind of hells. But over there, that's practically

16:01

monk fitness, which is quite a gnarly for us to get

16:04

a gnarly. But

16:05

again,

16:06

completely bare, completely bare.

16:08

Mhmm. But really quick

16:10

bar and not in the north. The north of India,

16:13

but spectacular. I never done it.

16:15

What was it like? What was it like going up

16:17

here? It's great. Yeah.

16:19

It's great. You have a lot of freedom.

16:22

Everybody knows everybody else. You

16:25

know? So so you kinda our quick safe

16:27

and ordinary, and it

16:30

it makes you a kind of open

16:33

and imposted pattern. You know,

16:35

the kids who grew up here and aren't me are enthusiastic

16:37

about learning. One of the nice things about this job

16:39

is I get to go into schools as schools

16:42

come out here to us and the kids

16:44

to pin to learn. They want to learn.

16:46

Education and Ornie has always been

16:50

not seen as a rite, but seen

16:52

as a privilege. You know, fuck a man,

16:54

shouldn't fucking want me to be quite, you know, island

16:56

based and not looking kinda outwards

16:59

a bit. We're actually the very opposite. We'll

17:01

look out the whole time. And we have

17:04

had generations of

17:06

civilians who have literally traveled the world.

17:08

So everybody's got an alliance that lives overseas

17:11

and you know, an auntie that lives, you know, in

17:13

Australia or something like that. So 4 do

17:15

travel here a lot, and the kids

17:17

travel a lot, you know, they grow up, you

17:20

know, their first experience on boats

17:22

and planes as long before they've been on a bus or

17:24

in a

17:24

train. Yeah. You know, so they're used to travel.

17:28

Where we've taken shelters, and it looks

17:30

like it might be the sheep dipped channel.

17:33

So the two walls, a bit of and gate at

17:36

either side. So there's a slight rattle on that,

17:38

and it's created a tunnel.

17:40

And the wind is howling as if it's going

17:43

over the top of a bottle.

18:01

Now this bet is really bogie and marshy.

18:04

I suggest we've got an award for a wee bet and

18:06

come back in the next gate.

18:16

The robot walking anywhere actually

18:18

is as you walk it it the sheep

18:20

becomes more apparent

18:22

to you. And walking to the

18:24

ring of Brodgar, you suddenly realize

18:26

that it is a perfect circle

18:29

surrounded by a ditch. Heathering

18:31

the ditch, which at the moment is chocolate

18:34

brown, dark, dark green, and color.

18:37

Tell you about the shape then, the size,

18:40

the scale of this as compared with

18:42

other hinges.

18:43

They Dinger Broadband is actually the largest

18:46

stone circle in Scotland. It's

18:48

the third largest stone circle in Britain.

18:51

The largest is equally, you

18:53

know, in wheelchair, there are two inner

18:55

rings at Iberi as well. One of the

18:57

measures hundred and four meters in diameter

18:59

and so does the ring here at Ronda. Exactly.

19:02

Exactly a hundred and four. Then

19:05

the second largest stone circle is a

19:07

place called Stant and Drew. It's

19:09

just about a ten minute ride from Bristol

19:11

Airport. And if you go there, it's about

19:13

a meter back of the border. And

19:15

it's like somebody's in the ring abroad, get

19:18

it put it in this fantastic English

19:20

and rural landscape. And to

19:22

be there for me, you you know, you

19:24

recognize the components in the landscape. It's

19:26

a smaller stone circle down the road. It's

19:28

surrounded by burial mounds. It's in the

19:30

natural amphitheatre. It's also built on

19:32

a slope as well. So it's

19:35

no accident that

19:37

around four and a half thousand years ago

19:39

folk are building stones that was the length

19:42

and breadth of this country. And they're

19:44

all very similar. But we

19:46

have so many mysteries about

19:48

stone circles because we don't know

19:50

why they're here. Yeah. What's the past? Yes.

19:53

It's a big mystery. We know here at

19:55

Brodgar that the stones come

19:57

from about seven different locations

19:59

in the West mainland and apartment. So

20:01

maybe it's about this sort of collective act

20:03

of bringing together stones in one place

20:06

may be represent in different communities.

20:09

And what folk Forget is they focus on the

20:11

stones very much, but as you mentioned, you

20:14

know, the dutch that surrounds the ring.

20:16

Today, you see it full ahead

20:18

of originally, it's cut out with the bedrock

20:20

that North Face made out of. And it actually

20:23

goes down probably another two meters underneath

20:25

the ground. So we're looking at something there

20:27

is maybe four meters deep

20:29

by about ten meters across. We

20:32

think we've dug out something like

20:34

eleven and a half thousand cubic meters

20:36

Stone, but we're big messengers. We

20:39

don't know where that went because

20:41

it's not

20:42

here. Given

20:44

that you've visited some of the other

20:47

big big stone circles. Is

20:49

there anything about the the sunset

20:52

sunrise

20:53

hitting stone have you seen and witnessed We

20:55

don't we don't have anything here at

20:58

that we know of. The two

21:00

met me as hard was just across lock at the

21:02

far side there, and we know the sunshine scenario

21:04

during the mid winter period. So,

21:07

you know, here in Arlie, we have very

21:09

short wind are days. On

21:11

the shortest day of the year, the sun pops up.

21:14

Just set that hell over there about nine o'clock

21:16

in the morning, and it sits behind the big water

21:18

Pelan Hoya but three in the afternoon. And

21:21

for the meal, I think people they would have watched

21:23

the biscuit and colder and darker.

21:25

You know, the light disappear. And then that

21:28

turning point, when life

21:30

comes back into the landscape, the days

21:32

get longer. We have endless

21:34

light in the summer. You know, the sun's up

21:36

at three in the morning. And it

21:38

sometimes doesn't say till after midnight. If

21:40

we were standing here at midnight on the longest

21:43

day of the year, the twenty first tuned. I

21:45

could reach out to the local newspaper. We

21:48

would watch Maine fishing on the lawn. You

21:50

know, foot would be playing golf and struminess.

21:53

Because it is so there is so much

21:55

like that can be quite a challenge sometimes,

21:57

you know, but, you know, it's quite a thing wonder.

22:00

And for the Neolithic that would have been something

22:02

remarkable too. And the other

22:04

thing you get here is if

22:06

you get a clear night

22:08

and it's a period of year when

22:10

it's dark. So winter, you get

22:12

the opportunity to see stars

22:15

and the northern lights. Yeah. Yeah. The

22:17

northern lights here and on, you would call them the meridansha.

22:19

Because the dance across the sky. And would

22:21

you come here to watch A lot of thought come here

22:24

to watch up because we don't have a lot of background

22:26

light

22:26

here. So

22:27

we're gonna take a a little Let's take a little

22:30

The loop around

22:30

the ring. Yeah. The ring since he's the whole leg

22:33

weak. Yep. Yeah. As

22:36

we roll back, we'll have to win behind us.

22:43

The funny thing is, as you as you walk behind

22:45

the stone, suddenly feel the wind

22:47

obviously drops, but then you walk over and

22:50

again nearly get knocked over.

22:53

I think it's getting stronger that way, doesn't

22:55

it? Yeah. That means if you look

22:57

behind yourself, we're coming in. Alright.

23:08

Gosh. Even though the window is behind us, it's

23:10

still really hard work. It

23:13

crushes you so fast you can start running

23:15

Come back down there to the loch's edge, and

23:18

the boardwalk that will lead us back,

23:21

a little bit of shelter here. Sounds

23:23

good. You must your your days are so

23:25

dictated by weather conditions.

23:27

Yeah. Yeah. Our our day life is kinda dictated

23:30

by by weather, you you know, this last couple

23:32

we've had some pretentious scales. Yesterday,

23:35

some fairies didn't come. Today, there's

23:37

no fairies at all. You

23:39

know, so you have to be prepared for maybe

23:42

So food supplies not get in here or

23:44

you have to kind of have a pretty relaxed attitude

23:47

to the weather

23:48

because it's ever present.

23:51

And also, certain times of year

23:54

where there will be a really intense

23:56

period where you can do something --

23:58

Mhmm. -- and other times a year when you can't talk.

24:00

Yeah, we have a a kind of a very short growing

24:02

season here in Ireland that tends to kinda

24:04

go from so at the end April, getting

24:06

to May through to the middle towards the

24:08

end of August. So the sandwich

24:11

plant crops that are kinda suitable that

24:13

are barley 4 that period. Same

24:15

when you say, I plant the Chinese in the garden, usually

24:18

at the beginning of May and the ready to eat by what

24:20

we call county sure they hoisted, but the seconds

24:22

are they in August. You know, there's

24:24

a story about some of the older 4 here

24:26

in Northney. They often say

24:29

that on a really windy night, there's nothing better

24:31

after Hong Kong or Doonan Bay and the sound

24:33

of the wind allows them to sleep, you know, whereas

24:35

newer days oh, kept me awake all night.

24:38

But historically, what we're kind of reassured

24:40

by that constant

24:41

deal. Ramblings the rafters of that

24:44

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24:48

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24:51

That's a really difficult question. I

24:54

think, for me, it's an Acadian. You

24:56

get a sense of place here. You

24:58

get a sense of being part of the landscape.

25:00

Yet you're part of something that's that's maybe bigger

25:03

than you are. And you you're kinda constantly

25:06

aware of that. You're also aware that you're

25:08

you're not necessarily in control of all of this.

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25:14

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