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In. An
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April and I'm Meredith and this
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Joined today with a does
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yeah. Joined today by just
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Welcome Joanna If I'm not
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fun time. You know, I'm really
3:25
letting down the entire audience. Ah after
3:27
that introduction to live up to it,
3:29
I really did this label you immediately
3:31
assessing a better be Pretty fun when
3:34
try so hard now. Yeah, Well
3:36
we're having find it took us thirty minutes actually get
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to the point to record because we had so many
3:41
technical difficulties so. Oh no, I think
3:43
we're in a good start. Okay for
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them. Sorry. That every
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for you join the you know or let's
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see how does. Anyway, I'm one hundred percent
3:52
sure that this is haunted me as Riverside
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as Hundred and I have used Riverside before
3:56
and I've never had any problem. I really
3:58
do think. It's the ghost the. Go think
4:00
Yeah. Yeah. Okay, so. Joanna.
4:03
Are. A Tell us a little bit about yourself. And.
4:06
Who you are and why is here?
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Well, I'm. A big big tender
4:10
foot fan. I'm a fan of this podcast. I.
4:12
A fan of radio rental. I'm a
4:15
fan of horror. And I.
4:17
You. Know I'm a comedian. I'm that a. Writer:
4:20
I very much love. For.
4:24
I love You know the it's like
4:26
the semblance of the panic attack I
4:28
feel when I hear a scary story.
4:30
Because I'm in, I'm in a anxious person
4:32
and I almost feel like we're is an
4:34
escape of that anxiety. I feel the same
4:37
anxiety but where I mean that isn't. Internal.
4:39
Isn't mine? God, you sound just
4:41
like April. Yeah, that's a press
4:44
release. I say this to Meredith.
4:46
all that my mind is a
4:48
terrifying place. It's horrible to be
4:50
in here. So I love watching
4:52
horror movies because it takes me
4:54
out of my head. Yes, you
4:56
know it's It's infinitely more fun
4:59
than stealing in my internal turmoil.
5:01
Yes, have a if I feel
5:03
the same way about. For me,
5:05
it's horror and true crime or
5:07
sort of my relaxation. My
5:10
relaxation content is that? yeah? Because it's
5:12
just it's the stakes are so high
5:15
anxiety so high that it's it. Jolts
5:17
be out of myself Yes and
5:19
isn't healthy? Know my therapist said it's
5:21
not been. I don't care. They're wrong.
5:24
So even though I love horror and
5:26
I love the supernatural. I
5:28
have always been like an atheist. And
5:31
very light anti bullying
5:34
these stories but. I
5:36
you know I did have an experience. In
5:39
Twenty sixteen, that sort of changed a lot of things
5:41
for me, and I. Wrote wrote to
5:43
defend her foot been like
5:45
i'm a fan of Mississippi.
5:47
Can I please tell you guys this
5:49
story I I Even if you don't
5:51
put it on anything, I just feel
5:54
like someone needs to read it because
5:56
it's crazy and then now here we
5:58
are. You know to yeah I'm so
6:00
interested in this because you're speaking my
6:02
way good, you're near like a little
6:04
atheistic and you're skeptical. I think that's
6:06
where I am a lot and I'm
6:08
like constantly looking for someone to change
6:10
my mind like tell me the experience
6:12
that will change my mind about guess
6:15
So here you're to task still on
6:17
the side and change married his mind
6:19
about ghosts. I'm not asking for much
6:21
you know I ah the task is
6:23
at hand. I'm going to try very
6:25
hard as I have a fear of
6:27
failure so if I don't do those
6:29
things this. Podcast Will Hunt is estimated
6:31
that although April's biggest fear yeah, I can,
6:33
we do me in broader the same person
6:35
I don't know, I'm just throwing it out there.
6:38
I think that's a solid beer. It's
6:41
interesting because I grew up April and now
6:43
I'm curious to see bigger of the same
6:45
way because we are the same person I
6:47
grew up with like my dad, studied physics
6:49
and will when I was six years old
6:51
when my grandpa died I was a puppy
6:53
what happens after you die and he was
6:55
like nothing. You. Be some dirt. Trauma
6:58
that's like trauma for me. I'll never forget
7:01
that moment l know as it core memory.
7:03
And then my mom is been of and as
7:05
well might as well as on his mobile. My
7:07
mom is Venezuela but almost like more stereotypical that
7:09
is on the sense that she. Sort. Of
7:11
like leans more into. The magical realism
7:14
and spirituality. I think that sort of
7:16
like very much embedded in a lot
7:18
of Latin culture like we have all
7:20
these a creepy story is like let
7:22
your own eyes he long as like
7:24
folk tales that sort of everyone knows
7:26
and believes for some reason and they're
7:28
just all stories to make kids. Behave.
7:31
Yeah so I grew up with like
7:33
this duality of. Life. Is
7:36
just. British short and you'll
7:38
die and become dirt isn't. But
7:40
then also there's the streets around and
7:42
you never really fully know what's going
7:44
on here and I told that line.
7:47
Totally. Toad told that line
7:49
sound here for years. That's
7:51
really interesting because. So. You
7:53
had both sides. I had
7:55
only religion. Oh, but it was
7:58
less magical realism and more. You.
8:00
Know kind a devout Christianity and
8:02
it's so interesting to me and
8:04
I feel like there's such a
8:06
disconnect or like a contradiction growing
8:08
up in Christianity. But also
8:11
denying the supernatural and spiritual world
8:13
kind of love being a part
8:15
of the everyday life type of
8:17
thing. Unless it's Jesus, angels are
8:19
demons. There's no whimsical fairies know.
8:22
Oh yeah, they I feel in fairies. It's.
8:24
Sort of. It's very strict vision of spirituality
8:26
and the supernatural where there's no room for
8:28
an afterlife outside of heaven and hell. So
8:30
it's like why would they appear to you
8:33
on earth and like this doesn't make sense
8:35
to me. If this is true, why can't
8:37
thought feature. It's like this magical fairy land.
8:39
Israel the other one is not okay. That
8:42
was. Stupid less it's
8:44
I'd say. I do feel
8:46
that like. You know I'm I'm Jewish, but.
8:48
I. Grew up in a country. That's like ninety nine
8:51
percent Catholic. Yeah the catholicism in Latin America
8:53
as very interesting because I do think they
8:55
get more creative than like I think be
8:57
more religious people I found here and the
9:00
stay there is a different brands yeah like
9:02
in in Venezuela there's all these scenes and
9:04
like it's like oh there's the scene of
9:06
the guy that was crucified next a Jesus
9:09
and then like if you lose something you
9:11
like light a candle for hims or yeah
9:13
oh ah it's raining outside. you better put
9:15
a nice out because the nice touch the
9:18
rain. Well there was less strict. Rules
9:20
on know what was and
9:22
wasn't. Okay, He only
9:24
there's this. Mysticism within the religiousness
9:26
the I find like fascinating like I
9:29
went to camp in Venezuela in love
9:31
with ya Nos which is sorta like
9:33
the planes of in history last. And.
9:36
Every one that was at the chimp was
9:38
like me and you and everyone there was
9:40
like oh yeah there is a woman out
9:42
there, she's a spirit and if we leave
9:45
camp like if with a tense after ten
9:47
like she could take us and dramas and
9:49
a reverse layer on our a vagina and
9:51
unlike businesses we I was like fourteen to
9:53
as it is this we all like hold
9:55
up questions and they're like I'm like eighty
9:57
percent Sharia sick by Mary's I was like.
10:00
You were I would be like I don't
10:02
I don't know Man, this can't be Is There
10:04
has to be logical explanations for why we
10:06
hear this woman's crying at night Like it's because
10:08
of the wind. It's because of the animals.
10:10
As as is always a logical explanation that humans
10:12
have like a tribute to something else too.
10:15
So I feel like I am your love.
10:17
Child marriages at April is what I'm saying.
10:19
Superfan I'm so glad to be or he
10:21
felt that from your email Feels right like
10:24
I love listening to you talk about these
10:26
things because it's so or Later ball and
10:28
I feel like I am. Both.
10:30
A skeptic. Like you said, you were. And
10:33
a scaredy cat which is why this isn't
10:35
Space is so fascinates me because I'm not
10:37
like a brave skeptic. I. Have not
10:39
like. A new into it may afraid
10:41
of it but it isn't real. but I'm
10:43
scared as a bulldozer. got a hard time
10:46
watching horror movies but I like fascinated by
10:48
them and I think about them and I've
10:50
even like written horror fan like and either
10:52
like control it you know it feels like
10:54
you. you don't fully believe it and you
10:56
kind of wanted to be true but you're
10:58
too scared for it to be yeah. Room:
11:00
You don't wanna live in a world where
11:02
that exists. Yeah, exactly yeah yeah. and it's
11:05
interesting you like. This is how we talked
11:07
about spirits in how the word ghosts was
11:09
never uttered in my house. My parents
11:11
are like medical people. The scary thing that
11:13
we talked about at the dinner table was
11:15
like. Chronic. Diseases you could die
11:18
from simply not mine. And you know,
11:20
like, wouldn't you rather be talking about
11:22
a potential ghost in the library to
11:24
me like that I like better than
11:26
a chronic disease. Yes, it's so funny.
11:28
it's it's ultra grounded horror. The things
11:30
my parents. Told me to fear were also
11:33
grounded, right? Yeah, That's. What I
11:35
don't like, who are doing is more
11:37
anxiety. It's more anxiety. It on that
11:39
note I think she die. Then let's
11:41
see begin. You know. Fuel April. Love.
11:43
Of this and I'd be changed my mind. Let's escape.
11:45
Okay, I would love that. Again, not a
11:48
big ass and no no really I just
11:50
misses his way your life long held opinion
11:52
while being fun. Yeah, so am I to
11:54
do it guys. I should do this. We
11:56
believe in you. My.
12:09
Story begins in twenty
12:11
sixteen. Twenty
12:13
sixteen, I had just started my career
12:15
as a comedian, I wasn't like kill
12:18
and at per se and I got
12:20
this opportunity to shoot. Commercial in
12:22
Miami and they weren't paying
12:24
great but there were like.
12:26
Dude. It's. Gonna be an
12:29
amazing trip for going to put you
12:31
up in the nicest hotel and you're
12:33
just gonna get the five star pampered
12:36
treatment. So I was like let's go
12:38
baby I just did a show in
12:40
a basement syllabus. best as in Brooklyn
12:42
For four people I am ready to
12:45
go and just feel like a star.
12:50
I get to Miami Alien at the.
12:52
Airport or drivers are a
12:55
pick me up. The driver
12:57
thrive me to this beautiful
13:00
hotel in Coral Gables. Now
13:03
in contrast to so many of the on. Miami
13:06
to Miami. Silica. Very young city with
13:09
a lot of a new buildings. And
13:11
developments exists buildings felt.
13:14
Old. As I was
13:16
driving of the driveway I was like like like
13:18
I'm going back in time to when this. Hotel
13:20
just opened. I
13:23
get out. I I go into the
13:25
lobby and. The lobby is
13:27
beautiful. It's a gorgeous There's. Plants it
13:29
has like this: terracotta tile, To
13:32
be fully transparent, I did it. Love
13:34
the feeling when I went in. But
13:37
I was like only God join. Like literally, You're saying
13:39
that like such a nice hotel, it's shut up and
13:42
just check in. So I checked and I get my
13:44
key. I go to the think it was the
13:46
fifth floor. And
13:48
walking down the whole the my
13:50
room and cluster on the walls
13:52
are these black and white pictures
13:54
of what I'm assuming our photos
13:56
of guests from the past. And
13:58
as I'm walking. Them down. I'm like all these
14:01
people are dead. And I go into my
14:03
room as. And it's
14:05
a really nice sweet. It's got
14:07
dislike little living room, sitting area
14:09
and then the bedroom separate. The
14:12
view has all palm trees.
14:14
Really gorgeous. But they're
14:16
sending about the room was
14:19
that I don't like. I
14:21
just don't like being and it. You.
14:24
Know I was like early twenties living in
14:26
a horrible apartment in New York. This is
14:28
the nicest. Remade been in and make
14:30
years. And. I just didn't.
14:33
Feel. Good in it. And
14:35
I started getting this. Pressure. In
14:37
my chest. And. I
14:40
was like oh, I'm I'm allergic. I'm
14:42
like an allergic jew of course. This is
14:44
allergies. This might be my asthma flaring up. When
14:47
I just so happen to have my inhaler with
14:49
me, so I just like took a few puffs
14:51
of inhaler. If you wanna incorporate some audio of
14:53
an inhaler sound, hear. That would really
14:56
help the ambience. I
14:58
was like you know I I'm just going to go to
15:00
the gym. I'm feeling a little anxious. Somebody to the gym
15:02
and run this off with whatever. This is off.
15:07
Go to the gym and a gym. Looks very different than
15:09
the rest of the hotel. The gym is in a basement.
15:11
The. Ceilings are low and it kinda looks. Out
15:14
of place, a little bit. But.
15:17
You know, I don't care. I'm just getting on a treadmill.
15:19
Who cares? So. I get on
15:21
the treadmill and like running for a few minutes
15:23
and then all of a sudden they looked down
15:26
and I see that night neck. My
15:28
chest in my arms are all. Like
15:30
read. And
15:32
I have this inflamed of red rocks
15:34
all over the right side of my
15:37
body. And
15:39
other tablets? The hell is going on
15:41
here. So. I
15:43
the like you know at this is. My
15:45
cue. I shouldn't be work and out.
15:47
I also have a really early call time. They're
15:49
picking me up at five am. I should just
15:52
go to bed. I should just go to that
15:54
I don't need. We were going out today so
15:56
I go upstairs. I
15:58
take a Benadryl. I
16:01
get him bad. I watch some tv. And
16:04
then I'm like, right. Time to go to buy
16:06
some. I'm actually. Couple
16:09
hours later, I'm like in deep
16:11
sleep. And all of a
16:13
sudden. I am awakened.
16:16
By of willie allowed.
16:22
To swerve. Reminders: Twenty sixteen and
16:24
I awake by. A
16:26
Donald Trump Campaign commercial. Know.
16:29
That what the hell is going on?
16:31
The Tv is on at the max
16:33
volume and I'm like that. so we're
16:35
science or not. the T V maybe?
16:37
I left the Tv on and then
16:39
rolled over and the volume monopoly American
16:41
will be with. So I turn up
16:44
the Tv and I put. The. Remote
16:46
on a night table. A
16:48
lot of pain. And
16:50
I don't know how much later on us it
16:52
was minutes or hours. I wake
16:54
up again. And the
16:57
Tv is on again. At. The
16:59
max volume. And the Senate
17:01
such moderate to severe black psoriasis. You
17:03
know when I'm is this going on
17:05
here I looked at the remote on
17:07
the nightstand. I'm like okay, you know
17:09
what to turn it off and maybe
17:11
unplug it. So I.
17:13
Go! I unplug the to be a go
17:16
back to Bess. And I'm in bed and
17:18
all of a sudden I hear. A
17:21
male and female voice. From the adjoining
17:23
like little sitting area not the
17:25
bedroom. And I'm
17:27
hearing these. Voices.
17:29
Back. And forth like I used i don't'
17:32
I. Grew Up votes.
17:36
And I always think about this moment
17:38
very clearly because it was a realization
17:40
I had. I go through life, not.
17:42
Sitting about my heartbeat. But.
17:44
Then in that moment, All
17:46
I to here is my for. Making
17:49
itself, So
17:53
now. Watch
17:56
put. Together. An explanation for
17:58
what is happening. So
18:01
I walk into the little adjoining
18:03
room. And
18:05
that Tv as are. There
18:09
was another Tv in the living room that had.
18:11
Somehow turned on and it was on.
18:13
like willingly. something. I don't know. So
18:16
I turn on all the lights. And
18:18
I'm like or a it's it's three am. I might as
18:20
well get ready, they're picking me up and two hours I
18:23
don't want to falsely began like I'm not doing this. I
18:26
disconnect that Tv. And like
18:28
I'm just going to take a really quick shower. Now
18:31
the bathroom was like this: Very. Long
18:33
bathroom where the
18:36
shower. Was on one age and.
18:38
Then you had the mirror on the other end. I
18:41
left the door open. I
18:43
was just a to shower How you shower and can
18:46
like. Really fast enough. And
18:49
I mean that point in the shower.
18:51
What? You have to close your eyes
18:53
because you have Shampoo Senior Air. And
18:56
all of a sudden I hear this like weird. Sound and
18:58
it's like this. And
19:05
I look. And the hair dryer, which
19:07
is one of these hairdryers that stuff
19:10
on a wall is. Turning on
19:12
and off it almost sounds like someone
19:14
is pressing the button on our. On
19:16
and off. On and off. On and off. And
19:19
at that point I'm like I'm out. I'm
19:21
not doing this. Shampoo and my hair.
19:23
I trip over a first the towel I
19:25
like, get dressed as fast as I can
19:28
and I just. Rushed to
19:30
the lobby. I just
19:32
I. Need to Focus is my first commercial.
19:34
I'd slept like maybe an hour and a
19:36
half. So I sit in the
19:38
lobby for like an hour or whatever waiting for this.
19:40
Driver to come pick me up. And.
19:43
Then he arrives. So.
19:45
I get into the back of the car and the drivers
19:47
looking at me through the rearview mirror. And
19:49
his again. it's how was your night. How was it.
19:52
Was like. I
19:55
don't know this guy. I don't want a mythic. I'm
19:57
crazy. I just like very.
20:00
That li i was like yeah you know I i
20:02
didn't sleep that well as and the night and i
20:04
was going to sound a little crazy but. Someone
20:07
in my room. And
20:09
he's like. Know. That makes
20:11
sense. So. They wait, what do you mean
20:13
and is like. This. Is the most
20:15
haunted hotel in Florida. And. One
20:18
of the most haunted hotels. And America. You're.
20:20
Not the first person I pick up from
20:22
this hotel. To. Tell me something like
20:24
this. And it
20:26
felt like. A wave of anxiety.
20:29
I spent the last hour in the
20:31
lobby figuring out logical explanations for everything that's
20:33
happened to me. And now you're
20:35
telling me there are no logical. Explanations.
20:39
And. He's like yeah, you know, This
20:41
hotel. Used. To be a
20:43
fancy hotel at the turn of the century,
20:45
but then the mafia was involved in it.
20:48
This guy called Tommy Side was a well
20:50
known gangster. was like some children aged twenty
20:52
nine on like the fourth or fifth floor.
20:55
So then the hotel
20:57
became a hospital. And
21:00
I was like oh my god it keeps
21:03
getting worse. Like mafia to hospital. He's a
21:05
guy yeah became hostile. he's like fun. Fact:
21:08
The morgue of the Hospital. Was
21:10
in the gym. And
21:13
I was like oh My. God. The
21:15
Rash. Maybe. My body was
21:18
rejecting all of the memories of the dead
21:20
bodies. I don't know. And
21:22
he was like yeah you know after was
21:24
a hospital it was abandoned for many years
21:26
and people would break in and apparently would
21:28
to say answers. And. Then
21:31
recently the hotel was renovated
21:33
and reopened. Beasley.
21:35
There's stories about this hotel
21:37
from people that have worked
21:40
there, from people that have
21:42
stayed there. It's
21:44
well known that there are
21:46
things that happen from like
21:48
sounds, divisions, Electrical and is.
21:52
Is just what it is. Everyone knows everyone
21:54
knows this hotel. Is haunted. And.
21:57
I had to go shoot my first. Commercial.
22:00
Like. Twenty. Minutes after having this
22:02
conversation. I.
22:04
Was just like not present. Obviously because I
22:06
knew that night I had to go back
22:08
and sleep there. Before it
22:10
was at least a question mark. it was
22:12
at least like maybe I'm the crazy one
22:14
you know But now this is like cemented
22:16
all my fears. I remember
22:19
I was in the shoe and i had a my gone.
22:22
When. You're shooting something and you have a microphone.
22:24
Sometimes you forget that you're most. And
22:26
I was telling my costar like,
22:28
yeah, I'm terrified. And
22:31
a hundred percent sure that the
22:33
hotel they put me at is
22:35
haunted. I think that. I
22:37
was haunted by this one particular ghost called
22:39
Tommy Sadie was because he was a one
22:41
on gangster and apparently had an affinity towards
22:43
tall women. and I'm tall. And.
22:45
I'm seeing all of these crazy things. And.
22:48
Then the producer comes up to mean he's
22:50
like hey, Can you shut the
22:52
fuck up? The client is listening in and
22:55
things that were like torturing you. Were
22:57
changing hotels. You just need to go. And pick up
22:59
your things after the shoe. They
23:02
drove me back to the Biltmore and I had
23:04
to call me mom. I was at. You call
23:06
my dad. My dad won't believe me. I called
23:08
my. Husband. My husband was like this is the
23:10
most ridiculous for a have ever heard I don't
23:12
believe a word yourself and then I'm like the
23:15
only person. That will believe me. Here is my spiritual mom
23:17
who I used to make fun of. So understand
23:19
I put on speaker I ran into
23:21
the. Room for my stuff. Ran down
23:23
to the lobby and went to check
23:25
out and the guy the check was
23:27
a key. oh you're leading. A day
23:30
early? Is everything okay and
23:32
I was like i'm yeah,
23:34
I didn't feel. Ah
23:36
great in the room! And.
23:39
He was I. I understand. Any
23:42
Chechnya. Ever
23:46
since then I have not booked a
23:48
hotel without first googling everything because the
23:50
moment I left the Biltmore I googled
23:52
it. I googled built more Go stories
23:54
and the amount. Of stories
23:57
of articles of frickin' A
23:59
Yelp Review. hotel.com Reviews are
24:01
people are like I'd saw a woman.
24:03
I saw a woman in a night.
24:06
It's it's crazy. This.
24:08
Sort of have embraced bear on
24:10
did. Identity then they're not trying
24:12
to dispel it to the point of like some
24:14
dark tourism actually that people go there and Halloween
24:16
to stay there to see if they can like.
24:19
Meet up with some of these ghosts and
24:21
some of these patients. Are gangsters that
24:23
died there It was like the
24:25
one experience of my life said
24:27
i i can't explain and that
24:29
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24:31
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28:00
Like there was a T-Rex was chasing them
28:02
and anything in their way, they were going
28:05
to smack you out of the way, they
28:07
were going to step on your neck, and
28:09
they were going to keep going until something
28:11
stopped them. And you're talking about short careers
28:14
generally. You're just, it's, there
28:16
isn't a lot of self-preservation involved except
28:19
the one time Mary and Barbara ran
28:21
out of bounds. The one time he
28:23
did. Let's not talk about that, Dan. Can we not
28:25
talk? Like I just got chills and that gets me
28:27
upset every time we talk. Of others
28:29
for some cable like a Specs and
28:31
Cable or something like that T V
28:33
It's oh my gosh, that's in the
28:35
canon of I donated. Even think
28:38
about that I guess was watching cable cable
28:40
to I am convinced the guy that was
28:42
fucking with me was Tommy Fatty was because
28:44
not only did he loved tall women and
28:46
I'm very tall but like apparently had a
28:49
sense of humor. I get A type your
28:51
his type Isis type. I'm that ghosts site
28:53
for sure. You know what I wanna be
28:55
wanted. I want to be desired A Okay,
28:58
I don't want us to be A Goes
29:00
We just wanted to ruin my life's I
29:02
like to believe that the ghost trying to
29:04
like me maybe had a little fresh. Yeah.
29:07
I do have some questions I'll exists a couple.
29:10
And. My biggest question is.
29:12
You. Know you mentioned your heartbeat accelerating and I
29:14
totally get that not being. Aware of
29:17
your heartbeat. most of the time I'm not by
29:19
it's. What? Was that moment like when
29:21
you are hearing the male and female voice? The
29:23
Tv had already gone on and off twice and
29:25
you're like. Wait, Isn't.
29:27
The other room because I think for me. I'm.
29:30
Imagining myself in that. Place. And
29:32
I know that I'd be like I
29:34
can ever. I'll never go in that
29:36
room. I was frozen for a bit of what I'm
29:39
not going to say like I was like brave immediately
29:41
like I was frozen for a bit but it got
29:43
to a point where I kind of sad to. I
29:46
needed to go through that room to
29:48
leave. I couldn't stay where
29:50
I was. There is nothing to do.
29:53
And. That moment I think
29:55
was the moment I noticed something about
29:57
myself which is in a photo fly
29:59
a open. Damn. unlike our
30:01
i'm a Fighter differ yeah, I grabbed
30:03
a remote as a weapon. I forgot
30:06
to say that. An amazing weapon by
30:08
the way. Yeah, it's really good at
30:10
it. Was either that or my tweezers.
30:13
Honestly, toss up. South. Up. Toss.
30:15
Up toss up depends how close I'm gonna get
30:17
to whatever is on either side. I thought that
30:19
my logical brain would take over and that I
30:22
would start putting the pieces the puzzle together For
30:24
that was also a of sleep with Benadryl Rights
30:26
and it's I was like I think this logical
30:28
things here that I'm just like an is not
30:30
clicking for me at the moment and if I
30:33
just give me a second I seek it can.
30:35
Figure. Out what's going on and. Every
30:38
time I. Find a solution like
30:40
oh of maybe it's remote control know the
30:42
room. something else would happen to prove that
30:45
that was not logical and else cousin that
30:47
the hair dryer thing was just just constantly
30:49
went up and get. Never when Alan you
30:51
were I've never felt the feeling of being
30:53
watched. In. That way. I
30:56
felt that the most. And when I was
30:58
in the shower and I think it's because
31:00
Tommy Walsh wanted to see me in the
31:02
shower, I'll say it in all right I
31:04
I I do literally felt like I was
31:06
being watched and I was so funny because
31:08
I could see myself in the mirror. I
31:11
don't like that. I don't like that either.
31:13
It's like. You. Know firstly of the
31:15
you know how much mirror times you like with
31:17
yourself you know that's a person questions but then
31:19
there is the idea like the psycho of at
31:21
all where you're like see this is this is
31:23
the image that a when I die like This
31:25
is what the the camera shot is when I
31:28
maria in the shower and I get to see
31:30
i felt like third person it felt like a
31:32
third prep respect and like oh you know what
31:34
they're going to get their ticket are getting some
31:36
coverage. This is the white and will sound isn't
31:38
yet as the hunt This is the why go
31:40
and it's they go in for for close up.
31:42
some like you know psycho obviously. You know,
31:45
a emblematic death scene of
31:47
the protagonist who is an
31:49
actress brutally murdered in her
31:51
shower. Because she was somebody type.
31:53
Yeah, she was some insight. Don't ever
31:55
be any one site. Men won't leave
31:57
you alone, even in death. They're going.
32:00
Their day? Well holler at
32:02
you. And your hotel room
32:04
when you think they're another. They.
32:06
Did put me up in a hotel afterwards
32:08
and it was like the W. Hotel
32:10
that was settled own
32:12
arm Twenty fifteen I.
32:15
Was just so happy to be there. I
32:17
was like average order. Room
32:19
service I'm gonna leave the T V on
32:21
all nice know goes here baby I don't
32:23
think this is on. I'm not at the
32:25
very around enough not as it w of
32:28
the only. The only sounds I would here
32:30
are from the club that was downstairs and
32:32
honestly I didn't care I was like other
32:34
people are very much alive and yeah I'm
32:36
fine with it. So. Any.
32:39
Final: Take ways. I.
32:41
Think my final take away as just like I
32:43
don't know if. I believe
32:46
in ghosts. Specifically.
32:48
Edibles. I believe the in all
32:50
this stuff but I know that
32:52
I'm not sure about anything anymore
32:54
after that experience that anything happen
32:57
ever again. I.
32:59
Did it accidentally. Get.
33:02
Book to stay at a hotel. In Chicago
33:04
where a woman was. Violently
33:06
stabbed to death like a couple
33:08
years before. And
33:10
I could not. Nothing happens, but I
33:13
could not sleep that may I was
33:15
convinced. She. Was there with me but
33:17
nothing happened. I think she's resting peacefully
33:19
for me as your on the defensive
33:22
after this Bill Maher experience. Exactly,
33:24
you know, don't blame me. Ah
33:26
no. Blame that Blame Tommy Burials
33:28
of Guilt. Blame the producers that
33:30
keep not doing their research like
33:32
a booking poor actors and actresses
33:34
into haunted. In this
33:36
In the Spectrum commercial or whatever, do you feel
33:39
like a haunted look in your eyes? like did
33:41
you have like a hollow. I.
33:43
I you know I think I did it
33:45
but I think it works because I was
33:47
supposed to be a character who like kept
33:49
fumbling and messing things up and in this
33:51
beauty queen would come up to me and
33:53
say like don't worry, I got you that
33:56
it honestly did that commercial didn't make much
33:58
sense but the fact that I was. Sort
34:00
of. not really. on actually
34:02
worked at. A idiotic about it. I'm
34:04
tryna like a Daniel Day Lewis I I
34:07
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38:46
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38:55
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38:57
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38:59
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39:01
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39:07
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39:09
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39:12
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39:14
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39:16
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39:18
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39:21
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39:23
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39:25
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39:29
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39:31
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39:33
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39:36
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39:39
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39:41
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39:44
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39:46
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39:48
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39:51
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39:53
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39:56
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39:58
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40:00
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40:04
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40:06
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40:08
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40:10
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40:12
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40:14
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40:16
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40:20
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40:22
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40:26
Tried to tell her what had just happened. We
40:28
were both so scared and ran to the
40:30
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40:33
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40:35
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40:38
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40:40
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40:42
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40:44
it. I don't
40:46
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40:49
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40:51
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40:53
my real sister. at any point
40:55
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40:57
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41:00
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