Today we are joined by Stuart Austin, design thinker and advisor.

Stu is also a lecturer in design thinking at Carnegie Mellon University in Australia, and runs a teaching business 'Austin Bloom' with his wife, which specialises in flowers and design for events and floral products. In this time of COVID-19 chaos it was fascinating to chat about the weird and opportunities of the world we are in.

Real People is a podcast hosted by Jason Dunstone, the founder and managing director of Square Holes. Subscribe to Real People on your favourite podcast player.

Jason builds on his 25 years of conducting human-centred research, interviewing average and not so average people (rich, poor, old, young, content and vulnerable) to understand what they believe and how they behave.

Check out the Real People website - http://squareholes.com/realpeopleConnect with Jason Dunstone on Twitter @jasondunstone - https://twitter.com/jasondunstone?lang=enSend Jason an email - [email protected] Read more blogs from Jason Dunstone - https://squareholes.com/blog/author/jason/Find out more about Square Holes - http://www.squareholes.com/Produced with Apiro Media - https://www.apiropodcasts.com/