Today we are joined by Roger Wilkins, an American now living in Adelaide. Jason and Roger chat trying to make sense of the differences and similarities between Australian and Americans.

Roger is a strategic communications advisor and republican political advisor. A strategic thinker and man with an eclectic background from selling solar power to veteran affairs, and has worked in communications and strategic roles in New York and New Hampshire, and shares a fascinating take on what makes the United States of America tick. It's politics, people and history, and we discuss how this compares with life in Australia.

Real People is a podcast hosted by Jason Dunstone, the founder and managing director of Square Holes. Subscribe to Real People on your favourite podcast player.

Jason builds on his 25 years of conducting human-centred research, interviewing average and not so average people (rich, poor, old, young, content and vulnerable) to understand what they believe and how they behave.

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