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Hello everyone, and welcome back to another episode

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of Real Time Crime. I'm your host Leah

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Lamar, and I have with me of course as

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always sometimes Dmitri Hello, Dmitri,

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Hello, how are you? I'm

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okay. I just canceled a thing and it wasn't a

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person. Thank you, tarn Um. We're gonna introduce

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our guests in just a second. But I

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am going crazy with n

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F t l A events and

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meeting lots of anonymous people in real life

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now, which is hilarious because I thought

0:39

I was never going to be able to meet them, which

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is a crime. So you're meeting people at these

0:44

events and you're just all standing around to gotta go on. So

0:46

what the Yeah, So it's a bunch of people

0:48

who scam each other. That's It's a

0:50

one big crime ring. But we all just wear

0:52

nice clothes. That's all that it is. Yeah,

0:55

alright, just just a

0:57

quick little rundown of what we're gonna be talking

0:59

about today. We'll be talking about nine

1:01

on one call revealing a

1:04

boy falling to his death from

1:07

a theme park ride. Will

1:09

also be discussing a woman being arrested

1:11

for shooting another woman over a wig.

1:14

So many questions already, and of

1:16

course we'll be talking about this laugh that

1:18

heard around the world. Will Smith and Chris

1:20

Rock Dmitri, are

1:23

you ready for me to introduce our guests. I am

1:26

okay, you guys, you're in for a real treat today

1:29

because this man is one of

1:31

my favorite human beings. And not

1:33

only is he hilarious, but you'll

1:35

see he's a sweet then spicy.

1:37

He'll say something that seems extremely profound and

1:39

then at the last minute turn it into some sort

1:41

of joke where you hate yourself and

1:44

also love yourself at the same time, and then retell

1:46

it to other people. And don't give him credit. He

1:48

is a comedian and yeah,

1:51

yeah, yeah, he's an actor. Well

1:54

it's hard for me to steal his jokes. You'll see why in

1:56

just a second. We're could not be more opposite as human

1:58

beings. Um, but he's an Indian actor,

2:00

host, TV and radio personality.

2:03

He headlines all around not just

2:05

the country, but the world. And

2:08

he also went to law school,

2:11

which is going to be a very interesting

2:13

m It will just be interesting

2:16

to have him on the podcast talking about crime since

2:18

he's been to law school and Dmitri, now, I

2:20

obviously don't know anything about the law. We just whoa,

2:22

how do you know I've never been in law school. You would have brought

2:24

it up on Namitri. That's a good point. Okay,

2:27

thank you, damn it uh.

2:31

Tehran von Gasri is one

2:33

of my favorite people. He's half black, half

2:35

Persian and he will never let you forget it. Tarran,

2:39

thank you so much, So

2:41

glad to be here with Leo Lamar. Hello,

2:45

Ri. Dmitri

2:48

is my nemesis. Dmitri is my nemesis.

2:51

He's the anti Tehran. I'm

2:54

not sure how that would he because I have no hair and you

2:56

have just dripping down your head

2:58

of hair, like you can't even eveen under your hat.

3:00

It's not just hair. You're also like nice

3:03

and you're kind and you care. I'm

3:05

over you. I think you've got the wrong impression

3:07

of Demitri. We can fix that. On

3:10

the outside. I already know Dmitri

3:12

on the outside is this tough nose, hard

3:15

ass. But on the inside, squishy

3:18

teddy bear. Squishy teddy

3:20

bear. Have we met before?

3:22

Like I never unless this episode was gonna

3:24

be dissecting me. It's a psycho analysis

3:26

of you. It's the second analyse of you.

3:29

It's actually this isn't true crime.

3:31

This is Dr Phil and I'm here to tell

3:33

you who you damn it. It's intervention time.

3:35

I knew it was coming anyway

3:38

back to me, if that's okay. So just so everyone's

3:40

aware, if you can't see the clips that we're

3:42

posting, Tehran is in his

3:45

home studio. He's wearing a hat with his

3:47

name on it, and in the background he has multiple

3:49

photos of himself and pop art form

3:53

and and it's kind of inception photos

3:55

because in the photos of himself he's wearing a sweatshirt

3:58

with a photo of himself on it. This

4:00

is true and I'm also wearing I'm

4:02

also wearing. Uh, my

4:04

bottoms have my pictures on them too, and so do

4:07

my my underwear. Listen, the point is

4:09

this, If you guys haven't

4:11

already noticed, Tarran and I know each other very

4:13

well. We haven't been friends for

4:15

seven six years. I

4:17

feel like it's been longer. It feels like eternity,

4:20

kind of like the tenth level bell. But it's

4:22

fine. It's fine. Leo Lamar. By the way,

4:24

to me, so he said we weren't going to get along, You're making

4:26

a lot of sense here. To Leo

4:28

Lamar, is the anti you right, soft

4:30

and squashy on the outside, deep down inside,

4:33

dead, dead on the inside. I'm letting you know that

4:35

now dead on the inside and willing to murder

4:38

all of us, willing to murder all of

4:40

us. I don't want to the airport

4:42

if I asked, would pick me up from the airport

4:44

if I asked? Which is crazy to me? Which

4:46

is crazy? I'll say this he Tarran has

4:49

picked me up from the airport once and he said never

4:51

again. Never, never again. The

4:53

fact that I've ever done that, I actually

4:55

that was one of my denied till I die once and

4:58

I cried in the whole car ride home, and I

5:00

pretended it was because of my family, but it was because

5:02

he was mean to me. This

5:07

is really shaping up to be quite an episode that's

5:09

gonna be. This is it's already a true crime by

5:12

the way, I feel that Leo Lamar

5:14

has me on this because she's like, oh the law background

5:17

is, She's like, and also he's committed crimes

5:19

like I felt like, you know, what's so funny. I

5:21

didn't even tell them that you've been to jail. Whoa,

5:24

whoa, whoa. I

5:26

didn't even tell them I've been to did you have to

5:29

Well, I'm a person of color in the United

5:31

States of America. Let's be very real. By

5:33

the way, I don't get to do that. You don't get

5:37

every comedian I've had on this podcast. Uh,

5:40

Janna's papas, who's not a comedian of color

5:42

who's also been to jail? Um, But

5:45

Mark Norman not a comedian of color. Who's every

5:47

single comedian who's been on the podcast has been to jail.

5:49

Daphnique Springs, Mark Norman, Um,

5:52

Janna's props. But the ones of

5:54

color have all been innocent, le A Lamar,

5:56

The ones of color have all been innocent.

5:59

Once, iime, once you said you went to law school,

6:01

I was like, Oh, that's just so he can, you know, get himself

6:03

out of the ship he's getting himself into. Thank

6:05

you Dmitri for understanding me. You're still my

6:07

nemesis, but in a good way, kind

6:09

of like how the Batman needs the Joker.

6:12

You know, It's all right, we need each other.

6:14

Yet and yet again, you guys are

6:16

meeting in prison or an insane asylum.

6:18

It's hard to say which one. At this point. This

6:21

is awesome.

6:24

Yeah, you guys are being held hostage at this point.

6:26

This is just Stockholm syndrome. I think Dmitri

6:29

has been locked into this podcast. And here's

6:32

language that's actually my love language, Stockholm

6:34

Central. That's how I that's how I

6:36

find potential mates. Yeah, like, how did I

6:38

even get into Tehron's car? I don't

6:40

know why, but I'm not leaving it. Um

6:42

T why did you

6:44

go to jail? Um? I

6:48

want to throw I want to throw out. I want to throw

6:50

out the term. But the

6:52

the legal which is the first time I've seen

6:55

you freeze and answering any time. Yeah, because

6:57

this is because this is a legal question.

6:59

You're to have to speak to my lawyer. I need

7:02

are you your lawyer? Whenever I have a conversation,

7:04

lawyer, I need my lawyer. You just

7:07

turn your hat backwards? Is that how that

7:09

worked? His lawyer had has a picture

7:11

of him in a suit. I wear many different hats.

7:13

But yes, there are many different times than many

7:15

different reasons. But you know, it's all things

7:18

that are behind me. I've never been convicted

7:20

of any crime. I've been convicted

7:22

of any crime. I want to point that out, and I

7:24

just want American note, They're safe

7:26

with me. You are safe at home. Wait,

7:29

by the wait, I don't find I don't find

7:31

myself compelling or believable right now. So

7:33

I'm getting to I'm going to jail. I'm guilty.

7:36

This is a guilty verdict right now, thank

7:39

you. So I just want to let you know all the other comedians

7:41

have fully told the story of the time that they went to jail.

7:44

It just seems like you're holding that because what what did

7:46

Mark Norman go to jail for? One day? I was jaywalking

7:49

and then he went to the drunk tank. Yeah,

7:53

after I did another late

7:55

night show. You know, I'm saying, like, what did

7:57

Mark Norman? What could they have gotten in trouble for?

8:00

You know? So alright,

8:02

so we know now it's probably sensitive

8:05

material. Yeah, because you're the response was

8:07

I'd like to just say I didn't do it. I did

8:09

wasn't my fault. Okay, calm

8:11

down. I did not with that woman.

8:14

Listen. It's just one of those things. It's

8:16

life, you know. But we've

8:18

moved on. We've moved on, you

8:20

know. Oh, Jason and Bill Clinton

8:22

just naming black people. Leo Lamar, I feel

8:25

like Dmitri say something,

8:27

say something, your

8:30

nemesis. He's on my team. Now the COO

8:32

needs help all of a sudden. And

8:36

see how long you've been doing comedy?

8:38

Who got you started? I've been doing comedy

8:40

for and and this is the

8:43

COVID years really placed that

8:45

two year extra addition.

8:47

But I've been doing comedy for twelve years now,

8:49

twelve years, and I want to only say ten, but

8:52

it's been twelve. And it's just, uh, it's

8:54

a hard thing. It's a hard thing to reconcile

8:57

with oneself. Yeah, and

9:00

what got you into comedy? Uh?

9:02

That actually goes back to the crime question.

9:04

That's actually that really

9:07

goes back to the crime question. But I

9:09

was as I was graduating as

9:11

I as I was graduating law school, I was

9:13

trying to figure out what was my next move. And

9:15

actually, what was really interesting is there's a comedian

9:18

named Mikey Winfield, who I know Leil

9:20

Lamar is very familiar with, but for

9:23

those of you who aren't, he's a very charismatic,

9:25

wonderful comedian of color, with great

9:28

brown skin and an amazing smile.

9:30

And I turned on the TV and saw him doing

9:33

comedy and I literally thought to myself,

9:35

if this guy can do this, I can do it too.

9:37

And that's what got me into comedy.

9:39

I feel like he'll hate hearing this. He's

9:42

heard it many times. He's heard it many times.

9:44

So thank you to everybody that's been

9:47

part of my comedy journey, including the

9:49

wonderful Leo Lamar, who was the reason

9:51

I got on Clubhouse, the reason I got

9:53

on Clubhouse. Yeah,

9:55

and Clubhouse has been terrorized ever since.

9:58

They actually have spoken to Lee in

10:00

regards to that. Why anyway,

10:03

if we could just keep this moving right along

10:06

and really appreciate that. Okay, you guys,

10:08

it's start for us to get into our hot topics

10:10

for this week. This one is

10:12

pretty sensitive. I mean, I'm

10:15

sure a lot of you've already heard about this story,

10:17

and I will give you the scoop, But apparently

10:20

Tyree Sampson, fourteen years old of

10:23

St. Louis, Missouri, died after

10:25

slipping out of his seat on

10:27

the free Fall ride at around eleven pm

10:29

on Thursday. The teenager wasting

10:31

visiting Central Florida on a football

10:33

program trip with his friends family.

10:36

When asked by the operator

10:38

how far up the team was when he fell, the

10:40

woman replied, I'm not sure, but it's

10:42

the new ride. That's all the way up

10:44

the highest one. I don't know from where

10:46

he fell. How does she have time to

10:48

have good grammar? And I'll never understand that. Tyree's

10:51

father, Yarnell, said that his son was

10:53

six ft five and forty pounds

10:55

and was told by other rides in the

10:57

park that he was too large to hide

11:00

safely, but that the free fall ride operators

11:02

waived him aboard. The

11:05

grieving father said that Tyree began to panic and

11:07

shared a chilling premonition with his two

11:10

best friends seated next him on the ride. That's

11:12

when he started freaking out. He was explaining to his

11:14

friends next to him, I don't know, man, if I don't make

11:16

it down safely, can you please tell my MoMA and

11:18

daddy that I love them? And

11:21

his friend said for him to say something like that, he must

11:23

have felt something. So now there's

11:26

an investigation under way and

11:28

they are trying to figure out who is

11:30

to blame for this. Apparently

11:32

the only thing stopping people from falling

11:34

out of their seats were plastic pulled down harnesses,

11:37

which are supposed to buckle in place in between

11:39

writers legs, and apparently

11:42

his harness was still locked after

11:44

the fall. There's a pretty gruesome

11:47

report of the nine on one call, and

11:49

I'm not gonna read it because it's a literally

11:53

it's intense alright. So you guys,

11:56

the article says that he may have exceeded

11:58

the right's weight limit and he was turned away

12:00

from other rides. Mm hmmm.

12:03

So do we think that the responsibility of death

12:06

falls on the person and people

12:08

operating the passengers on the free fall? Right?

12:11

Well, there are a lot of different There

12:13

are a lot of different things we have to take in their

12:16

context. Right, So not only

12:18

not only did we just open

12:21

this ride, this is apparently supposed to be a

12:23

new ride, but it goes up to about

12:26

four hundred and thirty ft high, which is

12:28

very high. And as for Tyree

12:30

himself, he's apparently two

12:32

hundred and eighty five to three hundred pounds

12:34

six ft five tall or

12:37

three d and forty pounds six

12:39

ft five tall mail

12:42

And the ride it exceeds

12:45

the limits once it hits two hundred pounds.

12:48

So that's somebody's fault for

12:50

allowing him on the ride.

12:53

And we know why this happens. When you go to

12:55

these especially these kind of local

12:57

town amusement parks. It's not like

13:00

we have a professor or

13:02

physics PhD running running

13:04

the show. It's a twenty year old

13:06

kid who could be friends

13:08

with you or whatever it is, and goes, yeah,

13:10

yeah, yeah, just get on, and that's

13:12

how it starts. I think the thing that's odd

13:14

to me is if he was getting rejected from every

13:16

other ride, why would he be like, oh yeah,

13:19

let me go on the tallest one.

13:23

Because he's fourteen years old and

13:25

he thought, listen, if I can get it, like we're

13:27

you kind of forget. And I think the people probably

13:29

running the ride that twenty year old kids looked

13:32

at this guy. He's six ft five pounds.

13:35

You probably look at him like he's a man. And

13:38

but he's a fourteen year old kid. So he got to go

13:40

on a ride that his friends were going on. Of course

13:42

he took the opportunity because you don't think, okay,

13:46

well I'm gonna fall from this thing and I'm going

13:48

to die. Obviously he had a premonition

13:50

when he was on it. He

13:53

he was like, oh I could go on this ride. Let me jump on

13:55

it. I think we're looking at it because hindsight

13:58

is every single there

14:00

are times will you'll say something and then the

14:02

one time Unfortunately, in this

14:04

tragic situation, it comes true. You're

14:06

taking it out of context and

14:08

you're saying, wow, he had a premonition, but really

14:11

what you're going up that high You're like, Oh,

14:13

if I die, let my parents know that I loved

14:15

them. You know, that's actually I told

14:17

my kids that before I came in here to do this podcast. And

14:20

has still die, And

14:24

then people will be like, he had a premonition all

14:27

of a sudden, I Tehran come into the background

14:29

of Dmitri Zoom.

14:33

Every day I have premonitions.

14:35

I'm every time I get in my car, I'm like,

14:37

I'm going to die today in this car. So

14:39

there's gonna be one day. But you're also an

14:41

awful driver, La, So that's

14:43

actually okay, I'm so sorry, please continue,

14:46

how dare you please? You

14:48

know, all I'll say is that none of them were my fault.

14:52

Wait are you still talking about car accidents or guylous?

14:56

That hilious? And and also

14:59

I just to say, this is so

15:01

tragic, and I can't

15:03

even imagine how his friends feel. They

15:05

were sitting next to him on the ride. His

15:09

friends, his parents like this is like said,

15:11

this is a fourteen year old kid. He went on

15:13

a trip and apparently, uh,

15:16

very nice, like genuine heartfelt

15:19

kid he went on a trip with his friends.

15:21

Like, man, that's like, as a parent, that's what you

15:23

want your kids to go and have fun. But man, to have

15:25

this stuff in your head, like you

15:27

you don't stop them from doing things because

15:30

of the odds of it happening. But the fact is,

15:32

it does happen sometimes. And when that happens,

15:34

I mean, do you remember that story at Disney if

15:36

a bunch of years ago, this family was on vacation

15:39

and they were watching a movie on the beach and

15:41

like, the two year old son went too close to the water and

15:44

an alligator jumped out and dragged

15:46

him in, and and and everybody and

15:48

and people online. No, but people online

15:51

were like, what's wrong with these parents letting him

15:53

do this? Like, hey, how about these parents took

15:55

their kids to Disney, Like if they weren't like

15:57

ignoring their kids, they had the right intent. But

16:00

you you just don't know when this is going to happen.

16:03

I think that if I ever have children, they're never allowed

16:05

to leave the house and

16:07

we're going to live in a bunker anyway,

16:10

moving on, So it sounds like if you ever have a

16:12

boyfriend, they're not

16:15

allowed to have social media. That's

16:17

kind of like, that's your m O. However,

16:19

in this particular situation, I

16:22

do feel very

16:25

very sad for the parents because this

16:27

is a fourteen year old boy. This is

16:29

a fourteen year old who has

16:32

the tragic laws of life in this manner, and

16:34

that the concept is at this point it doesn't

16:37

matter whose fault it is, simply

16:39

because how do you replace your child,

16:42

the person you have placed all your hopes and fears

16:44

and and future inside.

16:46

So it's just a it's a

16:48

horrible situation. I do want to point out one

16:51

external factor that we forgot or neglected

16:53

to mention. It did happen in Florida,

16:55

where it seems like a lot of these kind of situations

16:58

tend to happen. Just saying and

17:01

let's not one last thing, let's not gloss over

17:03

a brand new ride in two and they

17:05

said there were plastic harnesses, Like

17:08

what is that? Don't don't build rides

17:10

with plastic harnesses that go up the highest of

17:13

any ride in Florida. Also

17:15

they hate the environment. Well,

17:19

they're not throwing away the plastic harnesses, they're

17:21

using the plastic the plastic can never be destroyed,

17:24

So that's number one. Number two,

17:27

never say that I neglected something again, Taran.

17:29

I will always I felt that because

17:31

it just felt like you needed to let me know that

17:34

I didn't mention it, and I felt that. But

17:36

it was nice because he wrapped it up with taking

17:38

a dig in Florida, which I can always get on board with, which

17:40

I'm actually just mentioning it. And I would like

17:42

to say that, of all places, the fact that this

17:44

happened in Florida is actually surprising because Florida

17:47

is one of the epicenters of amusement

17:50

park rides, so you would think that they would

17:52

have much better safety features

17:54

and inspectors. I do want to remind

17:56

everybody that every single time you see a

17:58

warning symbol or warning sign, it

18:01

comes on the heels and the backs of

18:03

someone's tragic loss or death. So

18:05

whenever you walk into an elevator and it says

18:08

only five people and you're like, oh, let's

18:10

just have six, remember there was a time there were six

18:12

or seven and that elevator just fell

18:14

through the shaft. And that's why we now have those

18:16

warning signs on all those elevators. Warning

18:19

signs come on that heel. Whenever

18:21

you see that, just think of that. And in this

18:23

case, we knew that it

18:25

exceeds the limit at two and eighty

18:28

five or two eighty six pounds,

18:30

and we don't have exact weight

18:32

measuring machines. But possibly

18:34

if we had a better professional

18:36

and I don't want to blame the attendant,

18:39

but a better trained attendant might have

18:41

been able to recognize the weight and

18:43

size exceeds the limits, and we might

18:45

have avoided this tragic death.

18:48

I think that it's like, how

18:50

do you how do you turn someone away

18:53

without embarrassing them? You know, there might have

18:55

been some sort of like, oh, he's probably

18:57

fine, he's like, nothing bad

19:00

been. I don't want to make him feel weird in front of his friends

19:02

and say no, you're too large or more

19:04

embarrassing. Like it's just

19:06

like, yeah, you

19:08

know, it's so weird about these warning signs. It's like,

19:11

now I understand why no one in my apartment building

19:13

gets on the elevator when they see me. I'm

19:16

just I'm wondering what notices they sent out

19:18

to everyone. Yeah, they pressed the button. I'll take

19:20

the next one, you know. I'm like, what happened was

19:22

specifically about you it was one incident

19:25

and he's fine. They're like, guys,

19:27

her picture was in the pamphlint for a reason.

19:29

Does heed the warning? They're

19:31

like, don't worry, she will be out of here in five months.

19:35

Um. Anyway, so

19:38

do you think that they

19:40

should close the ride? I

19:42

think it warns an investigation, if nothing

19:44

else, it definitely warns the safety investigation,

19:47

especially if they're saying that the buckle was

19:49

still in the harness when the

19:51

ride came to completion. So they're saying

19:53

the buckle was still working. So

19:56

how did this six ft five and

19:58

forty pound fourteen year old slipped

20:01

through all the harnesses? How

20:03

did that happen? Slip

20:05

out? No? So what happened?

20:08

Did the snap? And right now you have to

20:10

remember that everybody's trying to

20:12

cover their own asks. Everybody.

20:14

Anything that gets said right now is

20:16

because now it's going to be used against

20:19

them and if not a court of law, at

20:21

least a civil trial. Thank

20:23

you lawyer. I

20:25

know, like I was cool with the nemesis and

20:27

thing before, but now he's like smart and funny,

20:29

and I'm like, what does that mean? What am I now?

20:33

Um? You're sometimes to Yeah, that's

20:36

my happy place. Okay,

20:39

all right, I think it's time for us to move on because

20:41

Tehran starts speaking legally and it made

20:43

us feel inferior. I'm

20:45

just saying, we'll see and I know this,

20:48

and you have to understand that this, this legal,

20:50

this legal civil suit is going to set a precedent

20:53

for these many rides. Disney

20:55

settles a lot of civil suits out of court.

20:58

Disney is also very much responsible for

21:00

our copyright laws in this country,

21:02

but a lot of our liability UH insurance

21:05

claims. Also because it's

21:07

one of the largest largest

21:10

providers of amusement rides. So we will

21:12

see how this sets up, especially

21:14

in a place that is a hub, an

21:17

epicenter of amusement parts, which

21:19

is Orlando. That is what Orlando

21:21

is known for, and more importantly, it's known for its

21:23

tourism. The effects of this can

21:26

have leading effects on the

21:28

economy there in many ways which

21:30

we are not prepared to understand

21:32

at this time. Who wants to go to that park?

21:35

Now, who wants to ride that ride? That

21:37

ride shutting down causes a cost,

21:39

and we'll see how that works out in place.

21:45

I I thought she was going to pay you a

21:47

compliment. I no, no, no, That's how I compliment

21:49

his by letting him know he spoke for a very

21:52

long time. No, but I think Disney is also responsible

21:54

for me thinking that I will one day marry a prince, and

21:58

so I hate that that's a but

22:01

that's because you've been looking at the stories incorrectly.

22:03

Cinderella is literally a story about a girl

22:05

who falls in love with a guy who has no idea what she

22:08

looks like when she takes her makeup off. That's literally

22:10

what the story is. I mean, I think

22:12

we've seen it that Love is Blind on Netflix. Isn't

22:14

that the same thing? Basically every

22:17

l a love store. We're moving

22:19

on, all right, this hot topic, very

22:22

hot, almost too hot to discuss.

22:24

A woman is arrested for shooting another woman

22:26

twice after a fight over a wig.

22:29

A woman is behind bars after Memphis

22:31

police say she shot at another woman

22:33

twice after a fight over a wig. The incident

22:36

happened on March twenty six, just four days

22:38

ago. According to an offid David, the victim,

22:40

identified Arta via Buying hum as

22:43

the person who shot at her. Buying him allegedly

22:45

fired two shots after a fight about a wig.

22:48

Police said the shots hit the victims. Buick

22:51

verano On voluntarily

22:54

went to the police station for an interview. She confessed

22:56

to shooting at the victim twice. After the fight, she

22:59

was arrested in charge with aggravated assault.

23:02

I feel like I just read the same sentence eight times.

23:04

But basically, one woman shot another

23:06

woman twice over a wig? Okay?

23:08

What did this wig look like? Was it super

23:11

expensive? Did she steal it from

23:13

her? Why is

23:15

this happening? And also is the victim

23:18

okay? Ah? What

23:21

is happening in Memphis? I'm

23:23

about to go get hair extensions later and I'm like,

23:25

if someone gonna try to rip them out of my head? Possibly,

23:28

it depends on where you get these extends. Beverly

23:31

Hills. So definitely,

23:33

yes, yeah, I mean crime is high

23:35

right now in l A. What most devicious

23:37

people I know live in Beverly Hills? Yeah,

23:41

and I know them all. And but

23:44

those are the white color crimes? Are

23:47

there? Where does wig

23:50

wig color crimes? I

23:52

wasn't going there, but thank you here, welcome the

23:54

nenture. Do you guys can care about

23:57

this case? I think, to be honest,

23:59

this is this is just a heated thing,

24:01

Like I think it's stupid. I don't think like

24:03

not talking about it. I think it's stupid that somebody

24:06

potentially could have killed someone over of

24:08

a wig, so obviously

24:10

that you chalked this up to just like craziness.

24:13

I guess I don't know why we're stealing wigs

24:16

or why we're getting that heated over wigs, and

24:18

I don't have hair, so but I'm not taking anybody

24:20

down for some what if she saw

24:23

or maybe she thought she saw hair is

24:25

from the wig at her boyfriend's

24:27

place, And it wasn't really

24:30

about the wig at all, was it. I

24:33

just wanted to make it a crime of passion.

24:35

It is a crime of passion in a way if you

24:38

think about it. So what it is is this is a

24:40

fight that stemmed over a wig, but it

24:42

leads and it bleeds into more. It stems over

24:44

the wig. But we've all been in a situation

24:47

where something smaller minute leads

24:49

to a much larger, heated

24:51

reaction. And we're actually going to talk about something

24:53

like that a little bit later. But the concept

24:56

is, this wasn't shooting over the wig.

24:58

It's not like give me my wig. And these were

25:00

complete strangers. These were two friends who

25:03

there's a lot to unpack there and

25:05

it just went too far and someone's

25:07

reaction was one

25:09

that on befit the crime

25:12

or situation at hand. So

25:15

potentially a misleading headline. I

25:18

mean, I don't know if it was a misleading headline, but headlines

25:20

are created to get us to click them.

25:23

Well, headlines are created because that's where wigs

25:25

are in your head and

25:29

anyway, so we're just gonna move right along

25:31

because I'm canceled from comedy. Okay,

25:33

this next story is very

25:38

troubling and heartbreaking,

25:41

So I didn't mention it

25:43

earlier on when I was telling you what's happening this episode

25:45

because it's just so heartbreaking. So

25:47

two teen cousins have

25:50

been found dead after a horrific incident occurred

25:52

during an Instagram live while

25:54

they were playing with a gun. The incident

25:56

happened in Missouri at around two in the morning

25:58

on Friday. The St. Louis

26:01

Police identified the children as twelve

26:03

year old Paris Harvey and her fourteen year

26:05

old cousin, Karen Harvey. Both

26:07

are from St. Louis. They

26:09

were pronounced dead at the scene and the

26:11

police have deemed it an incident they

26:14

said a murder suicide, but it is

26:16

more of just a tragic accident. So

26:20

apparently they were making a video and

26:22

Paris dropped the gun. It fell, it

26:24

went off, and then I think she tried

26:26

to pick it up, and she picked it up by

26:28

the barrel and it went off. And

26:31

so it was kind of a freak accident, is what

26:33

they're saying it was. It wasn't an intentional

26:36

murder suicide. And

26:39

Miss Harvey said that she didn't know who owned

26:41

the gun and she didn't know how her daughter got

26:44

ahold of it. So,

26:46

Dmitri, as a parent, do

26:49

you think twelve years old and four

26:51

years old is too old

26:53

to pay attention to what your kids are doing in the

26:56

house? And

26:58

if the doors closed, are you checking in on them?

27:00

Are you well? What? What? What

27:02

do you put your take on this? My my

27:05

take on it is no, it's never kids

27:07

are never too old to check on them, especially you

27:09

know the doors closed, you wonder what they're doing. But this

27:11

has nothing to do with two kids being in

27:14

a room with the door closed and not being checked on.

27:16

This. This goes and by

27:19

I want to be clear, I'm not blaming these parents. I

27:22

don't know anything about them, but but

27:24

parenting goes beyond a moment of

27:26

should I have checked on them? Parenting is the

27:28

whole time leading up to that as well. Right,

27:31

So there's talks about guns. There's talks

27:33

about however that gun got there. I

27:35

don't know, but there's talks about what

27:37

is appropriate and what what is

27:39

safe and things that you should be doing, and

27:42

it should never It should

27:44

be that these kids wouldn't think, wouldn't

27:46

want to even try playing with a gun for Instagram

27:48

live video. How

27:51

did they not know that a

27:53

gun came into their house? We

27:55

don't know the situation or this family,

27:57

this family, this family. Does

28:00

it mean that they all brought guns. It could have been one

28:02

family member who brought a gun and it

28:04

was for their their protection,

28:06

whether it's in their personal or professional

28:09

lives, or they just felt safe for having a

28:11

gun. It's like, let's also remember this happened,

28:14

and this happened in in St.

28:16

Louis. Yeah, so

28:18

this is a place where St. Louis has

28:21

a high crime rate. It's a it's a

28:23

city where you know, a lot of people

28:25

do feel they need to protect themselves. It's not

28:27

always a viable way

28:29

to get a legal gun. Some people have to go

28:31

the route depending on their backgrounds

28:34

or their own personal options.

28:36

So I don't want to judge where that gun

28:38

came from. And I'm not I'm not an

28:41

opponent of the Second Amendment. I do think

28:43

we do need this is this goes to

28:45

why we need stricter gun laws,

28:48

why we need stricter gun laws, and we

28:50

need redding, and we need to be aware of

28:52

that. That's the other thing that

28:54

comes to mind is gun safety. I'm

28:56

not saying it's wrong to have a gun. I'm not saying

28:58

it's wrong to bring a guns them where However,

29:02

especially if you're going to be around children. I

29:05

know people in l A who have guns and they keep them

29:07

in safe where they have codes

29:09

on them. You know, the gun is for a very

29:11

specific use at a specific time,

29:14

and under no other circumstances

29:16

is it being brought out. And by the time

29:18

you get the safe, by the way, you're already.

29:22

But there are strict laws where

29:24

you have to lock them up, you have to lock them up and

29:26

things like that, especially in California, especially

29:29

in Los Angeles. Well yeah,

29:31

but I mean crime rates are so high here that who's

29:34

really locking after guns? You know, That's

29:36

the funny thing. In Los Angeles, crime rates

29:38

are high, and now we have this, we have

29:41

this ring of criminals who are going

29:43

around robbing people. However, because

29:45

of the strict gun laws, if you do

29:48

fire a gun or protect yourself,

29:50

you're going to get in trouble. And this has happened

29:52

to several people that have done so. So it's

29:54

a very interesting situation

29:57

that comes to play. But in this part

30:00

particular situation, there is

30:02

a question of gun safety. There is a question of why

30:04

two children were able to have a gun,

30:06

find a gun, and play with a gun, and to

30:09

do so well live and no one to no

30:11

one to admonish them or even critique

30:14

them on live. That says a lot about us as

30:16

well. It says a lot about you know, whoever

30:18

was watching. No no one was like, why

30:20

don't do this? Don't play? Don't They

30:23

might have been we don't know, we didn't see the transcript.

30:25

It might have been. But they also don't know. They

30:28

don't know is it a real gun, isn't loaded? I mean, there's

30:31

so many factors that go into this. But I agree with

30:33

you. If I saw that, if if for some reason

30:35

I saw a video and I saw two kids

30:37

or two people playing with a gun, improperly,

30:40

I would say something, but you know, clearly,

30:43

as you can read any news headline

30:45

or any story on the Internet, you'll know

30:47

that there's tons of different types of people in the world,

30:50

and they might have thought it was a fake gun. You

30:52

know. I feel like the lines are so blurred

30:54

between reality and reality.

30:59

It's like I don't even know what's really

31:01

anymore. And that actually

31:03

feels a lot like what happened with Will Smith

31:05

and Chris Rock, which will get into in just a second.

31:08

Right after this break and

31:23

we're back, Welcome back to real time crime.

31:26

I hope you did not commit a crime while listening

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and I'm not. I don't consider myself like a Hollywood

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type of guy, but I just became one. Is If I

32:00

ever got in trouble, they say, do you want to call your

32:02

lawyer? And I go, no, I want to call this guy. I was

32:04

on a podcast with the one you call.

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You call that is a real thing. So I'm there

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for you. I am there for you now, Dmitri, oh

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boy. And speaking of being there

32:15

for each other, Hollywood did not have each other's

32:17

back this past weekend at

32:19

the Oscars. You all already know

32:21

about this, but now it's our take here

32:23

on Real time crime. So if you don't know, you're

32:25

living under a rock and wake

32:27

up. Hello, are you Okay?

32:30

It's pandemics over

32:32

and Will Smith akers Rocker hit each other

32:34

on national television International to not hitting

32:36

not hitting each other, not hitting each other?

32:38

All right, okay, back back back, I'll backtrack. Um.

32:41

During the Oscars on Sunday, Will Smith stunned

32:44

the Dolby foter crowd and viewers at home

32:46

when he took the stage during Chris Rock's

32:48

remarks. After Commedie made a joke about Jada

32:51

will Smith's wife, he said,

32:53

Jada, I love you, g I Jane two

32:56

can't wait to see it, and

32:58

the joke touched a nerve and Will

33:01

Smith walked onto stage, slapped

33:03

Chris across the face, went back to

33:05

his seat, kept yelling keep

33:07

my wife's name out of your sin mouth.

33:11

Jada has a shaved head, but

33:13

mostly because she has alopecia,

33:16

and I guess that was diagnosed. The

33:18

joke wasn't particularly funny, it was

33:21

very dated. I didn't even know she had alopecia.

33:25

I mean, they're now launching an investigation,

33:27

and Will Smith did apologize

33:30

publicly to Chris Rock, and Chris

33:33

Rock did not press charges. What

33:36

what's everyone's take? At first? I thought my

33:38

first thought was I gotta get to Twitter, and

33:42

then I couldn't stop tweeting. I literally

33:45

was like, joke, joke, joke, joke, I can't stop, but

33:47

mostly because I thought it was staged. And

33:50

then my second thought was, is Chris

33:53

Rock promoting something soon? Though

33:58

still some people still do think of stage right

34:00

and as a comedian, it's

34:03

terrifying that anyone could just come on

34:05

stage and assault you and no one does anything

34:07

about it, and win an award and get a standing

34:09

ovation twenty minutes later. I mean, talk

34:12

about highest high and low is low within twenty minute

34:14

period. But I'm also

34:16

of the school of thought where it's

34:20

very interesting to watch to a

34:22

list celebrities get into a

34:24

legitimate fight in front

34:26

of the entire world and have

34:28

no one know how to react. Not

34:31

one person knew. Why would anyone know what to do?

34:33

Why would anyone expect this to happen? And honestly,

34:36

I feel like we make a huge

34:38

deal of this. This was interesting,

34:41

it was shocking, it was funny,

34:44

it was horrible,

34:47

and we move on. I thought

34:50

it was great. I thought it was great. It was let's

34:52

be very honest. None of us were

34:54

watching the Oscars before

34:56

this happened. None. Why do I know

34:59

what coda is? Why do I know all the

35:01

words of the song there in Kantos songs?

35:03

Why? Why did I looked up Belfast?

35:05

Okay, the only reason I did so is

35:08

simply because Will Smith

35:10

smacked Chris Rock live at

35:13

the Oscars. I'm so sorry. It was

35:15

just great television. And even Chris Rock

35:18

himself says right after it happens,

35:21

after they're a little bit of back and forth, this

35:23

is the greatest night in television

35:25

history. Will Smith just smacked the ship out of

35:27

me. This is the greatest night in television

35:30

history. Hey, Kanye Wess, Taylor Swift,

35:32

hold my beer, Hold my beer. This

35:34

is the greatest night in television history. Right

35:37

here. Also this is in the Academy

35:39

started disciplinary proceedings against Will Smith

35:41

today, and expulsion is on the

35:43

table according to variety, which would

35:45

be which would be out

35:47

of bounce, which would be completely out

35:49

of bounce. How

35:52

So, because first of all, this

35:54

is this is the reason, how likely is

35:56

this to happen again? It's extremely

35:58

unlikely to have happened. That to happen,

36:00

right, it was extremely unlikely to happen in

36:02

the first place, and even more exponentially

36:05

extremely to have happen again. Number

36:07

two, take the source. This isn't Gucci

36:10

Man who went on stage and smacked Chris

36:12

Rock in the face. Okay, this is Will Smith.

36:14

If Will Smith hasn't built up enough

36:17

human currency in

36:19

order to be forgiven at some point, then

36:21

none of us are saying. And so I'm not saying. I'm

36:23

not saying lock him up, and clearly there's no charges

36:25

being just lock him up, you can. And Will

36:28

Smith, he's a nice guy. He's a nice guy. He's

36:30

got money he's the fresh prince. He shouldn't have

36:32

any penalties. I'm not saying,

36:34

to be very fair, he has a huge penalty.

36:37

His first oscar Win is marred

36:39

forever and overshadowed by his momentary

36:43

lapse of judgment and his reaction.

36:45

And this is a person whose brand means

36:47

more to him than anything else, because

36:49

he's done such a great job of building

36:52

such a fine, such a wonderful friendly

36:55

image and streaming it and it's not being

36:58

performative a lot

37:00

of young fans. And let's be honest,

37:02

the academy dropped the ball by

37:05

by nothing happening, by him going back

37:07

to his seat and sitting there. There should have been something.

37:09

What should have they

37:11

should have taken No, they should have escorted him out

37:13

of the out of the area. And if he won,

37:15

he wins, and he hears about it on from

37:17

a from a text and he zooms in. I

37:20

disagree with I disagree with that assessment.

37:23

I think that this was this was a momentary

37:25

labs of judgment. It's between two people who not

37:27

only have a friendship but a history, and

37:30

honestly, Chris rock wasn't

37:33

a person who was If Chris Rockets said

37:35

I don't feel safe. I want will Smith out of here.

37:37

That would be different. But he did know such things, as

37:40

far as we know from every account, he did know such

37:42

things. He understood the situation, and

37:44

even though he was clearly not happy with the situation,

37:47

no one is happy with getting smacked in the

37:49

face. However, they were

37:51

both people and it was between two individuals.

37:54

The only reason we're having this discussion right now is

37:56

because it happened on live television under a microscope.

37:58

And all of us who hate being judged, by the way,

38:01

because I personally I live in a glass house and

38:03

I'm not without saying so I hate coustin stones.

38:06

All of us love judging what happened. Now

38:08

do I condone what will Smith did not?

38:10

At all? Will Smith was wrong,

38:12

period. There is no justification

38:14

for what he did whatsoever. In

38:16

fact, as a child, we learned to keep

38:19

our hands to ourselves. He should have

38:21

never done that. However,

38:24

However, understanding understanding

38:27

something is different than condoning it. And

38:29

this played out, so you're not you're not

38:31

a fan of of said it? So he said an example

38:34

to people. Right. His son even tweeted out, that's

38:36

how we do it. So he said an example

38:38

to all his young fans. So with no real

38:40

repercussion besides, oh the agony

38:43

of having my Oscar Win tainted? Are

38:46

you okay with with no example being said? The oscars?

38:48

They dropped the ball too. I'll get it's no,

38:50

but not no one's cleaning this whole thing. But do

38:53

you think with no repercussion that's a safe

38:55

way to proceed? Are you not a fan of

38:57

leading by example? So as a

38:59

as a comedian, and when comedians bring

39:01

up, oh, now, should we be afraid

39:03

of people coming up on stage and hitting us?

39:05

First of all, I'd like to say, uh. And a

39:08

lot of quote unquote urban comedy rooms,

39:10

unfortunately, things that this nature tend

39:12

to happen sometimes, and it's a

39:14

horrible situation. That's number

39:16

one. Never is the person of Will Smith,

39:19

And a lot of mainstream comedy rooms

39:21

things like this tend to happen. So this

39:23

isn't like comedians haven't dealt with something

39:26

like this, and it's a horrible, horrible

39:28

situation. Anyone who uses this as

39:30

a precedent or an excuse to now

39:33

feel safe to do this was just

39:35

looking for an excuse. The only person

39:37

we should all be afraid of as all the means say, is

39:39

Kanye Now that Kanye thinks this is okay,

39:41

Pete Davidson should duck and hide. But

39:43

other than that, to be very

39:45

fair, most of us will never

39:47

ever endure something like this because most

39:50

people understand. And this isn't

39:52

like it was a random joke by a random

39:54

comedian to a random person, but this is

39:56

people who have a history. Now, if I

39:59

was on stage, I said something very

40:01

personal to Lea Lamar and for Leah

40:04

didn't didn't know about Jada's alopecia.

40:06

But most of us in that form

40:09

and that in that trending culture

40:11

and zite guys, we all knew about it because she's

40:14

been very vocal about it and how much it's hurt

40:16

her. Most of us need

40:18

to be fair. I don't know about any celebrity

40:20

drum or any celebrity conditions like I

40:22

don't really follow along, which

40:25

I completely understand, and that's and that's

40:27

the thing. But Chris Rock is a very knowledgeable comedian

40:29

and and once again I don't

40:31

think Chris Rock was wrong. I'm not a fan

40:34

of it's too soon, you can't make a joke

40:36

about that. I'm not a fan of that at all. That

40:38

is how the freedom of speech works. If you do not believe in

40:40

the freedom of speech for those you disdain,

40:43

you do not believe in the freedom of speech. However,

40:45

freedom of speech does not mean freedom

40:47

from consequences, and in this

40:49

case the consequence was not justifiable

40:52

whatsoever. However, the punishment

40:55

punishing Will Smith now even more

40:57

will do what do they want to find

40:59

him? I completely understand the fine. If

41:02

two NBA players get into a fight, we find

41:04

them. We don't ban one or expel

41:07

one for the rest of their lives for

41:09

something that you do, expel

41:11

them for the rest of the season. The malice in the palace,

41:13

those guys were that's because they took on and

41:15

beat up fans. They beat up like thirty

41:17

people. Technically, technically, Chris Rock

41:19

was there doing his job. However, this is the

41:21

thing. If Will Smith had went and started beating

41:24

up people in the state, I would say, you're right, this

41:26

is a menace. If he started beating up security

41:28

when they came to detain him, I would say, you're right. This

41:30

is two basketball players, two

41:32

people on the field who got into

41:34

an altercation. And just because you're

41:36

not used to seeing that between these

41:39

two people, or or or

41:41

in this particular situation, uniform.

41:44

Yes. And here's the thing I agree with you.

41:47

I do. I've never looked at this like, oh my god,

41:49

now comedians are gonna like it's open season

41:51

on comedians. I've never I haven't seen it, looked

41:53

at this and thought that. But where

41:55

I come from is it is a different perspective

41:58

here is that. Okay, Chris Rock

42:00

was was bullied growing up, and granted, people

42:02

say, well, he comes out slinging jokes that people find But

42:05

as I said, these people have fans. Will

42:07

Smith has fans, right, he has young fans

42:10

this and that, and by

42:12

the way, trigger stuff, Okay, I think less

42:15

people are were, at least from my

42:17

perspective, a majority of the people that

42:19

I know were more enraged by the

42:21

fact that he got up, accepted as award and

42:23

played a victim I'm

42:25

protecting my family, and he got a standing

42:27

ovation and then he went into

42:29

and he used trigger phrases for domestic

42:32

violence. Right, love will make you do crazy things.

42:35

How many women that have been abused by their husband

42:37

have been told that afterwards? Like that's

42:39

I think what what got people. It wasn't

42:42

so much that if he slapped him and then they were like, okay,

42:44

well that's over. But when he got up and played

42:46

the victim, I think it hit a lot of people the wrong way.

43:00

Yeah. I also

43:02

just want to quickly interrupt um

43:05

this crime of passion about to happen between

43:07

the two of you. But apparently Variety

43:10

said that the Academy asked Will Smith to leave

43:12

and he refused. I think it's

43:14

interesting that they didn't force him to leave, they asked

43:16

him to leave. The thing. The other thing is

43:19

that Will Smith has built up enough

43:21

social grace at this point and trust

43:23

with not only the Academy

43:26

in the entertainment industry, but also with the world

43:29

at large that I don't think

43:31

you just say Will Smith, you have to leave.

43:33

I think you say Will Smith, would you mind leaving? And

43:36

then he says no, and then you say, okay, I guess

43:38

we did our part the academy.

43:41

The Academy is saying this after the

43:43

fact. We don't know who asked

43:45

or how it was asked or and Will

43:48

Smith refusing. Was it like, hey,

43:50

Will do you want to come outside? And it's like no, I'm

43:52

cool, and that was their understanding.

43:55

We don't know the phrasing. We don't know everything,

43:58

and you did have Denzel and Bradley Cooper

44:00

talking to him and be like, Okay, he's the calm, he's calmed

44:02

down. Like so you don't know. And it goes back to that amusement

44:05

park thing you talked about. Sometimes you got

44:07

this person, it's like, hey, you can't do this,

44:09

and then you get nervous and like we all sit back

44:11

and think, oh, yeah, I would have told him to leave. Well

44:14

you wouldn't. I wouldn't have looked at Will Smith and been like,

44:16

I'm gonna drag you out of here, because shop

44:18

you're probably intimidated. It's Will Smith. He

44:20

just had Denzel and Bradley Cooper

44:22

in the corner of the ring being like, all right,

44:24

you ready for round two. That's

44:28

that's how We'll Noah made it. When someone invites me

44:30

into their A list celebrity circle to

44:32

comfort them after they've publicly assaulted

44:35

another celebrity,

44:38

I do think that no goals,

44:41

you gonna have them. No, it's the thing. I do

44:43

think that Will Smith is facing

44:46

his own form of punishment. He knows what he was

44:48

doing was wrong. As for Jaden, I mean

44:50

for for us to use Jaden's word For all

44:52

we know, Jaden was listening to the song this is how

44:54

we do it. I don't know. I don't want to put that out

44:56

there. However, let's assumed that Jaden

44:59

was tweeting about this, you know why, because

45:01

that's his mom. For us, it's just Jada Pinkett.

45:03

That's his mom. That's his mom. And when

45:05

people say, well, look, he used this trigger

45:07

trigger phrase honestly,

45:10

or was he using a phrase that's a calm

45:12

and love will make you do crazy things if

45:14

you say something in a sweet way, and it's

45:16

kind of like if you take something out of context.

45:19

That's why content is. If you take something

45:21

out of context, it's not just content. If

45:23

you have a grandparent who's like, come here,

45:25

I love you. You're so sweet and I want to kiss

45:27

you all over, and then you take that same and it's like,

45:29

hey, I love you, I want to kiss you all

45:31

over. You're like, oh, look at this,

45:34

look at this criminal pedophile, while on

45:36

the other hand, it's just a sweet grandmother. I'm not

45:38

saying what he said was premeditated. What I'm

45:40

saying is that is what I think has

45:43

gotten people like I think to see that happen,

45:46

and then for him to play a victim and have and

45:48

have some people be like, oh,

45:50

he looked at me as being a defender. It's like that's

45:52

tough for some people to swallow. And I think

45:54

that's I don't think the anger has

45:56

been like okay, open season on comedians,

45:58

no no holds bar, no rules.

46:01

I think it's like, oh, he did something

46:03

he shouldn't have done. He did something that's wrong,

46:05

and then he took his other angle and then he went dancing

46:08

to his own song at the after party. There was

46:10

no remorse. So I think that's why.

46:14

What did you want? You want him to cry in the car? You wanted

46:16

to send a cry in the car. Let's not. Let's

46:19

not do that, because all of us have done something

46:21

bad and then gone to seven eleven in

46:23

an hour after that, like none of us just sit

46:25

around.

46:28

And he didn't go to seven eleven. He put

46:30

the party, he won

46:32

an oscar, and there's nothing you can do

46:34

with I'll be I'll be honest if that was me, If

46:37

that was me, maybe I would go to the party, maybe,

46:39

but I would probably be pretty somber. I would be

46:41

feeling pretty shitty about what I did, especially

46:43

if I spent my whole career, building up to an image

46:45

and shattered it. Did you see everything he

46:47

did? The whole party? You saw? So you saw all

46:50

three hours he was at the park. That's not what I

46:52

said. That's not what I said. You saw one moment

46:54

where people might have been like, hey, will come

46:56

on, man, let's wait, and then he starts celebrating.

46:59

And when he's where that there's cameras everywhere.

47:01

A man up his entire career to

47:03

look to be be so good and

47:05

be so I'm sorry. I'm just so against

47:08

this. And I have a lot of different different

47:10

situations scenarios because I think there's a

47:12

cultural component in this and this that

47:14

a lot of quote unquote mainstream

47:16

America is not taking into account. This

47:18

was street. This was street behavior

47:21

that you haven't seen in your lives on

47:23

and it shouldn't have been on TV. And this wasn't the place

47:25

and time and for people that you don't think are

47:27

street, but they kind of are, regardless if you

47:29

know this about them or not. This was This

47:32

was also something even when he said keep

47:34

my wife's name out your now, that's

47:36

something that's a common phrasing. People are like

47:38

picking on that phrasing. Why would it. I can't.

47:41

That's something that is said within

47:43

the especially in a hip hop

47:45

in the hip hop community, and in the black

47:47

community. It's something that's said regardless

47:50

of if everyone else in America is aware

47:52

of it or not. And his behavior. I

47:54

hate looking at someone and going look at

47:56

this liver. We know everything about this

47:58

person. Will Smith, if anything has

48:01

should have at least earned our

48:03

our benefit of the doubt. Hey

48:06

Will Smith and let him speak on it, which

48:08

he did. He apologized there and then the next

48:10

day he apologized to Chris Rock. And

48:12

that's something we would do because of what

48:14

we're all human. And I will tell you something, Dmitri,

48:17

to be honest to me, this was an incident

48:19

that happened and we all watched and it was interesting.

48:22

This says way more about us as

48:24

people than it does about because

48:27

us and how we're judging and how we're

48:29

looking, and how we're so quick to

48:32

condemn, and how we're so quick to throw

48:35

daggers and darts and place

48:37

blame and just be like this happened,

48:39

and this happened, and we all know all

48:41

of these things has a lot to say about

48:44

us. There are people who are like, for

48:46

felony assault, then you don't know what a felony

48:48

is. Okay, So all of

48:51

these things put into perspective. This

48:53

is television. We call it show business,

48:55

and this was just a part of show business. And to be honest,

48:58

the only investigation the Academy show have

49:00

is how they can have something like this happened every year

49:02

because it was great for their show.

49:05

It was great for their show. And while the Academy

49:07

is so busy investigating this, I want

49:10

them to investigate Oscar so White, which

49:12

is a part of it, because let's be honest, there

49:14

are times where people of color, And do I think

49:16

that Will Smith should have even won an Oscar for

49:19

King Richard? No? I watched King Richard. Clearly

49:21

he's like maybe the fifth best actor in that movie.

49:23

This was not the performance. This was his training

49:26

day to Denzel's Academy Award win

49:28

where it's like, not for this all the maybe

49:31

Malcolm X, maybe Hurricane, maybe Philadelphia,

49:33

but not for this. So do I

49:36

think that Will Smith should have won? No? But

49:38

with Oscar so White, and we have that situation

49:41

and people don't realize it's overshadowing

49:43

that that's something we should be talking about a lot

49:46

more. Plus On top of that, not Latin

49:48

X community and Asian

49:50

communities aren't being fairly

49:53

given Oscars either, especially the Latin

49:55

X community, which should be the most mad because

49:57

the award is called the Oscars. If

49:59

there was an award called the Jamal's and black people

50:01

didn't win, I'd be Hella, Matt. I'd be

50:03

like, are you serious? We can't even win a Jamal?

50:06

We can't even win a Jamal?

50:10

Yes, um, no comment,

50:13

but I will

50:15

say if there was an award show called the Goldberg's

50:18

and no Jews one, I would have been I'm just

50:20

saying, how mad, how mad? How

50:22

matt should Jewish people be all the

50:24

time? We're mad all the time about everything. Yeah,

50:27

I'm mad when I see movies

50:29

which are supposed to be about Jewish

50:31

people and somehow the main person. How

50:34

many times have I talked about Masiel? I can't. I can't

50:37

keep talking about this. I need a new storyline.

50:40

Also, just so everyone knows, Tehran is Jewish and

50:42

he's the one who drags me to synagogue.

50:44

That is also true story.

50:47

I would not go to temple if it wasn't for him. That's

50:49

number one. Number two. Just a quick side

50:51

note, Chris Rock is going to be performing in Boston

50:54

tonight and a lot of people are wondering if he's going to speak

50:56

on the incident. What do you guys think? I

50:58

think Chris Rock Will I think Chris

51:01

Rock. Knowing Chris Rock. There

51:03

are no phones, there are no videos

51:05

allowed. They take your phones when you go in. W

51:08

Smith Rose jokes. I don't think there'll be

51:11

Rose chokes. But he's going to say something.

51:13

I don't think he's going to go in. I think he

51:15

has a lot of respect for Will Smith. And even

51:17

though this was a horrible incident,

51:19

I'm telling you as a person who slaps

51:22

a person once a month, I'm letting you know

51:24

that you can be best friends. We're not talking about just in

51:26

the bedroom. By

51:29

the way, just to let you all know, Lea Lamar

51:31

on her Instagram has one of the funniest

51:34

videos in regards to the Will Smith

51:36

Chris Rock smack that I have seen online.

51:40

And there have been a lot of funny things on you go on.

51:42

What was the video about? It was very

51:44

funny. You have to go watch it. Just go watch it. Just go

51:46

to at Lea Lamar and you will find it. And

51:49

I'm telling you right now as horrible as this

51:51

was for one comedian, it was amazing.

51:53

For the rest of us, it was amazing

51:55

for comedy. I also just have to say,

51:57

by the way, a lot of people mixing

52:01

the situation low key abop,

52:03

like this is low key abop. I don't know what else

52:05

to say.

52:20

You know, it's crazy. There's somebody who's going to lose

52:22

their virginity to that song. I just want to

52:25

let you know. Oh my god, I

52:28

think Chris will talk about it. I don't. I don't think he's

52:30

gonna go in I don't think he's gonna go in and roast yet.

52:34

I know. I think he'll do some I think it'll be

52:36

good stuff, but I think it'll be very uh,

52:39

just around the edges. Yeah. He

52:41

hasn't made a comment. He hasn't come out. Even there

52:44

was a there was a type of a statement

52:47

that was circulating and his pr came

52:49

out and vehemently denied that it was from him.

52:51

He has not made a single statement, not a single

52:53

comment on this situation, And I

52:55

honestly think that's what's best because right now

52:58

Chris Rock is winning. Chris Raw is

53:00

winning his sold out show. By the way, he already sells

53:02

out, they're selling out even more. Chris

53:04

Rock is winning and his this is what I

53:07

said. My first thought is what is he promoting?

53:09

Because he's going to start annihilating sales

53:14

Chris Rock. And that's the thing I always I'm

53:16

telling the other comedians, because I'll see comedians

53:19

and it'll be like open my comedians who were

53:21

like, oh no, people are gonna hit me.

53:23

I'm like, you're not really funny enough for

53:25

anyone to get up and smack you in the face. Now,

53:27

if they get up, it's because they're leaving to go someplace

53:31

because you are so unfunny. I mean. I

53:33

also remember seeing Chris Rock when I

53:35

was a kid and his HBO special. I

53:38

just remember him laughing at his own jokes, and he

53:40

was in this beautiful black suit, and I remember

53:43

thinking, I'm too young to be watching this and this is

53:45

inappropriate, but I couldn't look away,

53:47

and I remember saying, Wow, he's the funniest person

53:49

on the earth. By

53:51

the way, the big takeaway, how about the fact that he's

53:53

fifty seven years old and he

53:56

took the smack like a champions. Whether

53:58

it's the boat chops in him or the New York

54:00

City he took this night like a champ.

54:03

Now right back up, stayed professional,

54:06

made a joke and then still made

54:08

a comment on it and kept it moving,

54:10

and then went into introducing me a warrant

54:12

and he was stumbled a little. But he's

54:15

the definition of the show must go on. I

54:19

think that is years

54:21

and years and years and years and years of experience.

54:24

Or also, Will Smith is trauma trauma

54:27

like six ft two muscles

54:29

like it's not it's not like. I don't know if

54:31

this was instead of Chris Rocket, was

54:34

Dwayne the Rock, like would Will

54:36

Smith has still done the same thing? I don't know,

54:39

possibly because at that moment, you

54:41

know, and there's a lot of speculation of Will laughing

54:44

and then what happened between the laugh and getting

54:46

Jada and looking at her look and you know,

54:49

I don't like to blame Jada for things, but well,

54:51

I mean, that's your wife, though that's his wife.

54:53

They've been married for better or for worse, and

54:55

for whatever. We love to judge the

54:57

Red Table conversations ridge

55:00

twenty five years and whether they're

55:02

happy or not, that's not for us to judge. But they

55:05

have figured it out in twenty five years. In

55:07

Hollywood, is two thousand five

55:09

years anywhere. This is still death do them part. So

55:12

to my discredit, I turned to my wife at that

55:14

moment. I said, listen, I gotta be honest. If

55:16

someone said that about you, I wouldn't get

55:18

up. And but also I

55:21

think we have to know that Will didn't actually

55:23

want to do damage, because if you wanted to, he

55:25

would have punched him. He would have. And and I'll

55:27

tell you something very real. Leah

55:29

and I are very close friends. If someone

55:32

said something to Leah that was I felt

55:34

like out of line or disrespectful. And I'm

55:36

not saying this. I don't want any labels

55:38

of what this would come from. But I would smack

55:41

the ship out of them. And that's a real thing.

55:43

And I and that's when you punch them. And I'm noticing

55:45

that, you know, because punching,

55:47

punching is that's actually what people don't.

55:50

They're like, he smacked him, he should have punched him. Actually

55:52

punching his way, it's it's more

55:54

aggressive and assault like and it's way

55:56

less disrespectful. And what Will Smith

55:58

was trying to do was get a point across. And that's

56:00

when, once again, in that street

56:02

mentality, you slap someone in the

56:05

face and you've heard it's it's actually

56:07

a phrase that said, it's something that's said

56:09

in conjunction, would keep bleep

56:12

in certain names out of your mouth

56:14

like it's really it's really what

56:17

I would like to term street behavior,

56:19

and I don't like giving. And it's not race.

56:21

It's not a race. It's not black culture because

56:24

this would happen in the streets of Idaho

56:26

and Alabama and anywhere where there's a lack

56:28

of black people as well. So this is it's

56:30

part of the street culture where Les

56:33

Philadelphia born and raised. If his mom

56:35

sent him to bell Air for the one little

56:37

fight, I don't know where his mom's gonna send him now. But

56:40

well, I was in bel Air last night and I was afraid

56:43

Will Smith was going to smack the ship out of me. As

56:48

yeah, I'm not afraid. But what I got out of your little diet

56:50

tribe is that you won't go to jail for me. So

56:53

good day, sir. If he

56:56

goes to jail, he won't admit it. As we saw before

56:58

we talk, I will never talk to about why. I

57:00

will never talk about why. No one shook jail

57:02

is not cool, it's not fun. It's not

57:05

a rite of passage. There's nothing good

57:07

about jail. I was there for a month,

57:09

you know. The The one thing I

57:12

do feel like, it's not this

57:14

is a different episode. The one thing I

57:16

feel that that we did miss and and just

57:18

from a comedic standpoint, is

57:21

at the very end, right before Chris Rock went

57:23

back to his thing, he went, yeah,

57:27

and knowing how Chrick, how quick Chris

57:30

is, you know, he had something

57:32

that he wanted, a joke they were

57:34

never gonna hear. He had august alsin

57:36

a joke. He had like fifty jokes, and honestly,

57:38

that's the one thing that's a comedian I'm sure anguished

57:40

them the most is when he went home and thought

57:43

about all the things he he he definitely

57:45

could have said and didn't. So on

57:48

my take, it's like Chris Rock was not wrong,

57:50

but could have been better. Will Smith

57:52

was definitely wrong and should have

57:55

been better. And then of all people, Jada

57:57

Pinkett was right, and all these things just

57:59

went left and we should just do you

58:01

believe that Amy Schumer wrote that joke? That's

58:03

the word on the street. I don't think Amy

58:05

Schumer writes a lot of jokes, So for her to have

58:07

written that joke. No, honestly,

58:09

honestly, that the whole the behind

58:12

the stage. And once again all the people were

58:14

like, well, I researched and I know. And it's

58:16

like, no, you don't. You're a Google works just

58:18

as well as my Google. We're all just googling

58:20

this and learning things, second, third, fourth hand.

58:23

None of us know the truth or what really

58:25

happened or even their mindsets, let

58:27

alone any of these intimate facts

58:29

that people are using as evidence against

58:32

or for them. Right, can

58:34

we just say it was a bad joke. It wasn't

58:36

a great joke joke. I didn't

58:38

even honestly get it. That was funny.

58:41

I thought it was funny, but not amazing. It

58:43

was like I get it, and you know what made

58:45

it funny. And Chris rock knew is

58:47

when he threw it away, he said, hey, it's it's

58:51

a g I. Jane Jogglee is like, this isn't

58:53

bad. This isn't a bad one. Like he's like, I'm

58:55

poking fun at something. And for people who are

58:57

like he made fun of the way she looked he did

58:59

it. Jane has strong, beautiful and bald,

59:02

and Jada Pinkett Smith a strong beautiful in bold,

59:04

and that's where that it's not actually

59:06

a dig unless you take it that way. But once again,

59:09

I don't know what goes on in their homes. I don't know

59:11

if Jada Pinkett has been crying

59:13

and been hurt and fragile and insecure

59:16

and distraught and destroyed over this.

59:18

And I'm her husband who's been there

59:21

and the and she's the mother of my children. And

59:23

it's been twenty five years and Chris

59:25

Rock has made digs at her before and

59:27

she's been like, I hate him, I hate how

59:29

he does this, and then you're in the situation

59:32

and you just get so deep in you

59:34

can't back out. Now. I've been

59:36

in situations where I've done something where

59:39

I wish I could take back, but once it's happened,

59:41

it's like, Yo, this just happened.

59:43

It is what it is. And now I doubled

59:45

down. Now I doubled down, and

59:48

this is why we're getting married. And

59:51

I'm just kidding. Oh, I was saying,

59:55

Yeah, she didn't get the response you wanted, and she kind

59:57

of frozen every down really quickly.

59:59

But that

1:00:01

was that was real. This

1:00:04

has been enough for It's

1:00:06

not going to be a g I Jane too write that was just

1:00:09

I'm anticipating it now. By the way, during

1:00:11

this have I mentioned how I'm black in person? And

1:00:15

guys include conclusion for today,

1:00:17

I didn't have a coffee yet today, which is um

1:00:19

why I've been not being able

1:00:22

to say words be boop. Uh.

1:00:24

This is my Literally it says witches brew on it.

1:00:27

And this should be a crime. No one should have a cup that says

1:00:29

witches brew on it. Uh. My saying

1:00:31

in the world is no coffee not working and Dmitri

1:00:34

nos. Anytime I've been asked to work

1:00:36

before noon, it's a it's going to be a hard Not even

1:00:38

two thirty was early. But I just want to

1:00:40

say I loved

1:00:42

watching your Lover's Quarrel today. Thank

1:00:44

you gentlemen. It was really beautiful. I enjoyed

1:00:46

talking a lot during that. And

1:00:49

this has been another episode of really I'm

1:00:53

where two men don't let one woman

1:00:56

speak and uh, it's it's fine,

1:00:58

Um, it's noted at. The real crime

1:01:01

that is the real crime of today of today's

1:01:03

podcast is we need more men with

1:01:06

podcast ha ha ha t

1:01:08

Where can people find you on the internet all across

1:01:10

the board that I am techhan and also at

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temples in l A with Leo Lamar. That's

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t e h R A N for those

1:01:18

of you who can't see his hat.

1:01:21

And Dmitri, where can we find you on the internet?

1:01:23

Still not at sometimes

1:01:25

sometimes just ad Dmitri Peppis And there's nothing

1:01:27

exciting there unless I can share your

1:01:29

video of your Will Smith video. Wow,

1:01:32

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calls at eight six eight

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six six two on two seven four six

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three. That's eight six six one

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crime. I didn't do the song today because she

1:02:00

usually sing sny

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one crime eight six six tw

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any one crime. That's eight six six two

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on two seven four six three. Stay

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real time Rod. I

1:02:24

mean, is it actually real time crime? I'm solving

1:02:26

anything or is that just the thing we say, it's a thing,

1:02:28

we say, got it? Okay, see you next

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