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get your podcast. Welcome

1:00

to an HBO podcast from the HBO

1:03

Late Night Series, Real Time with Bill

1:05

Maher. Thank

1:38

you, sweetheart. Hi, Bill. Hi,

1:40

Bill. Hi, Bill. Hi, Bill. Hi,

1:43

Bill. How are you? How

1:45

are you? How are you? Good. Have

1:48

everybody good? Great. Thank

1:50

you. Great to see you.

1:52

Thank you for coming out. We're going to have

1:56

a great show and thank you very

1:58

much. Thank you very much. Appreciate that. Did

2:00

you have a good leap day? What?

2:05

It only comes once every four years. We've got

2:07

to enjoy it when it happens.

2:09

Trump would not acknowledge it. He

2:13

thinks it's a woke plot to make a black

2:15

history month longer. So

2:25

he was at the border yesterday, the border with

2:27

Mexico, I mean. And

2:31

so was Biden. They had like dueling

2:33

press conferences there. And

2:37

they were very close. They could

2:39

see across the border to the people there, and the people

2:41

could see them. Boy,

2:43

a scarecrow and a jack-o-lantern. And

2:48

that doesn't stop them from coming. I don't think anything will. But

2:53

yeah, Trump was in,

2:55

Biden, no, Biden was in the city of

2:57

Brownsville, which to me sounds like

2:59

something Trump would call Mexico. They're

3:04

coming from Brownsville. They're

3:09

coming from Brownsville to bring in crime. They're raping, remember when

3:11

he said that? Remember when

3:13

he first saw him, when he first came out, they're bringing crime,

3:15

they're rapists. Turns out the jobs

3:17

they were coming for were his. All

3:22

right, kid Donald Trump, always in a good human fashion.

3:27

But this is sad. You know who Alex Navalny

3:29

is? He is one of the bravest people in

3:31

this world who's gone now. He was the dissident

3:33

who stood up to Putin. Putin went to jail

3:35

for it, died there. And

3:38

they had this funeral today, and it was

3:40

a good sign. Lots of people came out

3:42

in Moscow, defied the authorities, to

3:45

this funeral, to the church, just to show

3:47

a show of defiance, which I think was

3:49

great. Everybody

3:58

said it was a very moving combination. and

4:00

Tucker Carlson said, can you believe how clean

4:02

the church was? And President

4:12

Biden had his physical this week and the doctor

4:17

said he is fit to serve. He

4:19

is taking some prescription drugs but so

4:21

is every teenager in America. But

4:29

here's the key story, the key story this

4:31

week. The polls show that

4:33

Trump loses if he is convicted in

4:35

any of his trials. So his defense lawyers

4:37

are doing everything they can to delay his

4:39

trials and when I say his defense lawyers

4:41

I mean the Supreme Court. The

4:44

Supreme Court, we're going

4:46

to talk about it.

4:48

I mean they made

4:50

this ruling this week. They're going to take

4:52

his ridiculous impunity case and

4:54

legal observers are befuddled. They cannot figure out

4:56

why they would even do this. Legal expert

4:59

Jeffrey Toobin was just making the jerking offs.

5:01

Oh no, that's... Something

5:09

else, I got something. But

5:11

now the court rejected hearing this in December.

5:14

They're just trying to run out the clock.

5:16

This is so typical of that court. Always

5:18

protecting the baby. Speaking

5:26

of which, I guess you

5:28

saw what went down in Alabama. Boy,

5:30

the introvertival, vitro fertilization,

5:32

this is the issue down there in

5:34

frozen embryos. In Alabama the Supreme Court

5:36

says it doesn't matter if you were

5:39

conceived in a lab or conceived in

5:41

a slot. A

5:44

baby is a baby. And

5:51

a frozen embryo, frozen embryo that's waiting

5:53

for implantation in a child. Nope, nope,

5:55

we can't allow that. Finally, someone is

5:58

standing up for the right to... of

6:00

the unthought. And

6:07

look, on the other

6:09

hand, this is also fairly big news this week.

6:11

CBS and Walgreens said they are going to be

6:13

selling the abortion pill in states that

6:15

allow it. And they have a new

6:17

slogan, which is, now that anything can be a kid, why take chances?

6:20

All right. We've got a great show. But

6:23

the unguess I got him here and

6:25

Tim Ryan, the first up, he is

6:27

the author of We've Got Issues, How

6:29

You Can Stand Thrones for America's Soul

6:32

and Sanities. And he'll soon host Dr.

6:34

Jones' prime time on his new single

6:36

network, Memory Tree Media. Dr.

6:38

Jones over here. How's it

6:41

going? I

6:45

love you. We're

6:49

all invited to come home

6:52

with me tonight after

6:55

the show. What?

7:05

That's my line.

7:09

Dr. Phil, I mean, it's amazing. When

7:12

you're a one-name person in this country, I

7:14

mean, you're like Cher. You

7:19

only need one name. That's pretty, you went

7:21

pretty far up the ladder there. Yeah, that's

7:23

good. I guess that's a good thing. It's

7:25

a very good thing. Well,

7:27

you've been

7:31

America's shrink for a very long time. And

7:33

here's the thing. I want to ask you

7:35

about what you're embarking on now, because I

7:37

feel like for the longest time, it was

7:39

all on an individual basis. We would see

7:42

you with your guests talking about their addictions,

7:44

their behavior. Now you seem to

7:46

want to be doing it for the country at large.

7:48

Do I have that right? Sort

7:51

of. And yes,

7:53

and in steps though, because

7:56

what I've always done, and I think it's one of the

7:58

reasons that I've been able to do it. to survive

8:00

as long as I have is that people tell

8:04

you what's important to them. And if you'll just listen,

8:07

they'll tell you what they want you to

8:09

talk about. They'll tell you what they want

8:11

you to address content-wise on the

8:13

show. And that's really changed across

8:15

time. When I first started

8:17

in 2002 with Dr. Phil, you are Dr. Phil. Well,

8:24

I didn't start

8:27

your thing. That

8:32

was a softball. I'm glad you hit it. I'm

8:42

not talking about myself in the third person. I'm

8:44

talking about the platform. I get

8:46

it. All right. Try to keep up. All right,

8:48

sorry. No, but

8:50

really, think about how much things have

8:52

changed since then. The Internet's blown up.

8:54

Yes. And people, there

8:56

are predators online that we didn't have before. There's

8:59

cyberbullying that we didn't have before. There's

9:01

all of these scams we didn't have before. Bullies

9:05

follow people home because

9:07

of the Internet. Kids can't escape. Parents

9:10

think their child's back in their bedroom just doing

9:12

their homework, but they're getting bullied on these chat

9:14

rooms. And also, things really changed, and

9:17

I've changed with it. And now, it's

9:20

changing again. People are becoming

9:22

really socially conscious and sensitive

9:24

about narratives that are being pushed

9:26

on them right now, words you can't use, words

9:28

you have to use. And

9:31

I'm not just talking about pronouns and stuff. I'm

9:33

talking about even the Justice Department

9:35

doesn't want to call a felon a felony

9:37

more. They want to call them justice-involved people.

9:40

So your family member

9:43

wasn't murdered. They

9:46

intersected with a justice-involved person. I

9:48

smell a stand-up special for you.

9:52

I really wish it was a joke. Well,

9:56

no, and a lot of your book is about stuff

9:58

that we share in common, the idea of justice. idea

10:00

that wokeness, which started out as a

10:02

great thing, alert to injustice, all down

10:04

for that, and it morphed into something

10:06

else. Yeah, weaponized. And now it's where

10:08

common sense goes to die. Right.

10:12

And I think somebody

10:14

needs to call that out, but people,

10:17

the percentage of people that are unwilling

10:20

to speak out and

10:22

say what they think has tripled

10:24

since 1950. People

10:27

say it's easier just not to

10:29

say anything. But you know

10:31

what? It's coming at a very high cost

10:33

if we allow our narrative

10:35

in America to be hijacked by

10:38

these fringe factions on either

10:40

end, either tail of the distribution

10:43

here. And you know I'm not political. You try

10:45

to sucker me into being political, but I'm not

10:47

political. And

10:50

I'm going

10:52

to do

10:54

it again. I'm

10:56

going to do it again, because I don't think you can, what you're trying to do, I

11:01

don't think you can do it without being political.

11:03

You're trying to divorce these issues from politics, and

11:06

you can't, because they're intimately involved with politics, and

11:08

you can't avoid politics. You talk a lot about

11:10

this kind of woke stuff, which I do too,

11:12

and I get it. But I also attack the

11:15

other side equally. I didn't see

11:17

that as much. I mean, what Trump is doing with

11:19

the rule of law, I know you say in your

11:21

book you're no big fan of Biden. That's as political

11:23

as you'll get. Well, a lot of

11:25

people aren't, but I have what I call the

11:28

blue liquid doctrine. You know what that is? No.

11:31

If it's Trump against Biden, I will vote for Biden's head

11:33

in a jar of blue liquid. Well,

11:43

that's a political statement. You

11:45

won't make statements like that. No. And

11:48

it's not that I'm talking about political

11:50

things, it's that political people are talking

11:52

about cultural things. What

11:54

I'm talking about is, look, I believe

11:57

that the basis of the strength of

11:59

any country is the backbone

12:02

being the family. I think families in

12:04

America are under attack. And

12:07

some of it's unintended, side effects of

12:09

technology and all. And some

12:11

of it is intentional that

12:15

the family is being eroded by

12:18

the government trying to co-parent

12:20

children with parents, not a

12:22

good idea. Teachers getting

12:24

involved with co-parenting children, not a good

12:26

idea. And teachers don't wanna do that.

12:28

I'm a huge fan of teachers. Don't

12:31

know a single teacher that doesn't get in

12:33

their own pocket to bring resources into the

12:35

classroom. And this is

12:37

the one that

12:40

paid, this is the one

12:42

that paid, I can't even look them in the eye. But

12:44

I said, I hate people that

12:47

criticize and don't come up

12:49

with an alternative. And I

12:51

see what's happening right now. Since the advent of

12:53

the smartphone in 0809, we

12:56

have seen the biggest spikes in mental

12:58

health among young people since they started

13:00

keeping records. Anxiety, depression,

13:04

suicidal ideation, suicidality,

13:06

and that started in 0909, right

13:09

after the smartphone came out. And

13:12

we've seen kids that stopped living their

13:14

lives and started watching people live their

13:16

lives and comparing themselves. They didn't know

13:18

those lives were fictional and produced. And

13:21

then COVID hits 10 years later. And

13:25

our government, instead of letting us work this

13:27

out among ourselves, they come in and shut

13:29

the schools down. And I said at the

13:31

time, if you do this longterm, this

13:34

is going to create more damage than the virus

13:36

itself. So you just walked into my crap. Because

13:39

how- No, no, no, you didn't

13:41

just walk into mine. I

13:44

can't, I can't. There's no trap for me. I'm

13:46

not married. But- Well, what

13:48

do you mean, yes or no? But- When

13:53

you're talking about school closings, this

13:55

is a political issue. It came

13:57

from political offices. It has to-

14:00

decided on a political basis. How can you

14:02

say to me, we only

14:04

are looking for solutions, let's get to the real

14:06

part of this and then not get involved politically?

14:09

Did it though? Did we elect the people

14:11

that shut the schools down or were they

14:13

appointed? Yes, of course we did.

14:15

No we didn't. We didn't elect

14:18

Trump and Biden? We didn't elect

14:20

the people that made the decision to shut down

14:22

the schools. They could have been overruled by Trump

14:24

and Biden. But they weren't. Okay, but that's still politics.

14:26

Well if your aunt had nuts, she'd be your uncle.

14:28

That's a big deal. That's a big deal. That's

14:36

a real big deal. These people

14:38

made the decision to shut the schools down without any plan

14:40

for opening them back up. These

14:42

are bureaucrats, not politicians. Okay, well

14:45

bureaucrats are politicians. You got me there. Okay. But

14:49

the other thing we don't... I'll give you that one. The

14:53

other thing we

14:56

disagree a lot on is that you think

14:58

family and faith are a big fix to

15:00

the problems we have. I

15:02

mean, I don't have a family and

15:05

I definitely don't have faith. You're

15:08

definitely not part of the solution. Maybe

15:12

I am. No, here's the thing. I'm

15:15

just saying that you come from a family.

15:17

I come from untrue. So

15:19

don't tell me you don't... Don't tell me you don't

15:21

have a family. Well, they're all gone now except my

15:23

sister, yes. So you got a sister. But

15:26

I didn't start a new family is what I'm saying.

15:28

And I'm an atheist so I don't have religion. And

15:31

I think the country's moving in

15:33

my direction, by the way. More people than

15:35

ever are single and more people than ever don't

15:37

have a religion. Now you may think that's a bad thing

15:40

and why we're going to hell in a hand cart. But

15:42

maybe it's also part of the solution. And

15:44

it's certainly just where people want to be. I mean,

15:47

when you say religion is the fix to this... I didn't

15:49

say that. You've seen the Middle East? I didn't say that.

15:51

Yeah, you did in the book. No, I did not. What

15:54

do you say about family and faith not the fix? I

15:57

Said that for the first time in our country's history...

16:01

Membership. In an organized religion

16:04

has dropped below fifty percent. Sneers.

16:12

Why? that's a problem? Because that was

16:15

one of the reasons that families got

16:17

together at least once a week. And.

16:20

Spend quality time together. The.

16:22

Reason it's drop below fifty percent is

16:25

because the reason I usually join the

16:27

church was because they wanted to have

16:29

their children christened, are baptized or whatever

16:31

the ceremony was in that particular church

16:33

and are birth rate has dropped to

16:35

one point six. We need to point

16:37

one in order to sustain the infrastructure

16:40

that we have, so we need. immigrants,

16:43

We. Just need to know who they are. Very

16:49

so. I'm very pro immigration law as

16:52

as are you write that he absolutely

16:54

and your position that you just said

16:56

very reasonable and a political position. Of

17:07

us As the less religion we

17:09

have, the more divorce and cohabitation

17:11

become acceptable. And. Then,

17:14

why shouldn't they be right here

17:16

in the rye? Shouldn't Divorce and

17:18

cohabitation commendation is allied the Alabama

17:20

Supreme Court, so why should not

17:22

be acceptable? It's twenty twenty four

17:24

to cohabitate without marriage will let

17:26

me is okay. The.

17:29

Problem is if you have a child

17:31

and you have a non biological mail

17:33

in the home. The.

17:36

Incidence of sexual molestation and

17:38

or abuse for that child

17:40

goes up as much as

17:42

thirty three times. Normal it

17:44

goes up. Hill. It, depending on what

17:46

kind of abuse you're talking about, it goes

17:48

up six times normal, ten times normal. all

17:50

up and down the continuum of it Doesn't

17:52

happen if there's a biological. Parent

17:55

and the home and co habitation is

17:57

a are complaining to things you can

17:59

call habit. with someone and

18:01

have children. I mean, the marriage

18:03

rate in Sweden is very, very

18:06

low. They live together as men

18:09

and wife, but they just don't get married and

18:11

they have children. That's a biological father in the

18:13

home. They just don't fill out paperwork. That's paperwork.

18:15

Cohabitation, yeah. You're saying they don't fill out paperwork.

18:18

Correct. But that's not what happens in

18:20

a lot of situations that create

18:22

this problem with a male

18:25

being inside the home that is not

18:27

biologically connected to the children. And that

18:29

is a big issue, Bill. You can't

18:31

write that off. What do you mean

18:34

when you say, let men be men?

18:36

I saw that, read that. Would

18:38

you pick a phrase and then go 50 pages and pick

18:41

another one? I

18:47

think I just got my answer. No, no. It's

18:49

just, that's an important, I mean, I'm picking out

18:52

things that I want you to have to address

18:54

because when you talk about marriages, say, let men

18:56

be men, I'm curious as to what you mean

18:58

by that. There's

19:01

such a thing as toxic masculinity. Would you

19:03

agree? Right here. We've

19:14

got a situation now where we've

19:16

got colleges, which I have been

19:19

quoted as saying, are just fostering intellectual

19:21

rot instead of critical thinking. Agreed. And

19:24

we've got people in there that

19:27

are actually preaching and

19:29

teaching that we should have a

19:31

quality of outcome. I think that

19:33

is a load of crap. I'm happy to talk

19:36

about the quality of opportunity. But if you've got

19:38

somebody sitting home in a beanbag eating Cheetos all

19:40

day and you got somebody out working 12 hours

19:42

a day, you're not going to have a quality

19:44

of outcome because you've got a quality, you don't

19:47

have a quality of interest. I agree. But

19:50

to answer your question, what I

19:52

mean... Your absolute political stance. Another

19:57

huge political issue. Equality versus

19:59

equity. Okay, which

20:01

you took a political stance on? According

20:04

to you. Now, what I'm

20:06

saying is, now in college

20:08

we've got a lot of

20:10

these universities teaching this, and

20:13

so if you're saying, look,

20:15

I'm a man that wants to get out

20:17

and take care of my family,

20:19

I want to be a provider, a leader, a

20:21

teacher, a protector,

20:24

then, and I have entrepreneurial

20:26

sort of things, then all

20:28

of a sudden that is masculinity

20:30

that's toxic. They used to teach

20:32

there's toxic masculinity, and

20:34

now just masculinity in general is

20:37

toxic. Women can be entrepreneurs,

20:39

women can be ambitious, women can do

20:41

these things, and nobody says anything, but

20:44

now the male does it, it's being

20:46

labeled as toxic, and that's not

20:48

true. They're just saying, we're just going to

20:50

call it that. You can't

20:52

just rewrite definitions and say, yes, because

20:55

I just decide it is. If you

20:57

go back 25 years, you had more men in

21:02

college than

21:05

women. Now you have more women in college than men.

21:10

All right, well, I wish you

21:12

the whole new network, not just

21:15

a show, a whole network. I

21:17

wish you the greatest of luck

21:19

with your completely apolitical program. Dr.

21:21

Shell, thank you for being here.

21:23

Dr. Shell, everybody, let's meet our

21:25

panel. Completely

21:38

apolitical, I believe. All right, here they

21:40

are. He is a former Democratic congressman

21:42

from Ohio and founder of the organization

21:44

We the People. Our friend Tim Ryan

21:47

is over here. And

21:50

he's an opinion editor at Newsweek and

21:53

author of the forthcoming book, Second Class,

21:55

How the Elites Betrayed America's Working Men

21:57

and Women. Bhatia Ungar-Sargon is over Okay,

22:01

so I'm

22:05

apoplectic about the Supreme Court ruling. They've been inching

22:07

toward this, and I've been apoplectic twice before in

22:09

the last two months, but I'm going to do

22:12

it again tonight. There's two issues that really bother

22:14

me about this. One, the delaying, and two, the

22:16

issue itself. Let me just show you, throw it

22:18

up there if you would, what the Supreme Court

22:20

said they would consider. By the way, it took

22:22

them two weeks to write this one sentence. This

22:27

is what they will consider. Whether and if

22:29

so, to what extent does a former president

22:33

enjoy, enjoy? I would

22:36

enjoy this a lot if I was,

22:38

enjoy the fuck out of this. Whether

22:42

and if so, to what extent

22:44

does a former president enjoy presidential

22:46

immunity from criminal prosecution for conduct

22:49

alleged to involve official acts during

22:51

his tenure in office? First

22:55

of all, is there any there there?

22:57

I think what they're saying as a

22:59

president is completely above the law, and

23:02

I thought we decided he wasn't. Why

23:05

did Ford have to pardon

23:07

Nixon if that was the case? Among

23:10

other issues, but I'll

23:13

throw that over the air. Is there

23:15

really an issue here? Well,

23:18

it's obviously, it's obvious what's

23:20

going on. Like we, you can go

23:22

back to Bush v. Gore, and you

23:24

can see how the political, the Supreme

23:26

Court can be. My

23:29

personal problem with this bill is

23:31

that Democrats are going to say

23:33

the Supreme Court didn't save us,

23:36

right? That as

23:38

wrong as this is, we

23:40

need a crutch to somehow help us win

23:42

the election. And I hope that

23:44

this isn't a complete distraction where we just

23:47

sit and talk about this for the

23:49

next six, seven, eight months and say,

23:52

the Supreme Court screwed us, blah,

23:54

blah, blah. We got to go out and learn how to

23:56

win elections as Democrats. And the fact

23:58

that these elections are even closed. And I

24:00

think you touch upon this from time to time with

24:03

the crowd that's insurrectionist, illegal,

24:06

four different cases in

24:08

90-some different—in four different

24:10

states, 90-some different charges. You

24:13

have to go out and beat this person. The

24:15

Supreme Court's not going to come in and say

24:17

this. And that does

24:19

not—that does not mean you

24:21

shouldn't do what you're doing and we shouldn't highlight

24:23

it. But if the political

24:26

apparatus on the Democratic side is going to

24:28

hope the Supreme Court's comes in and saves

24:30

them, it's not going to happen,

24:32

because we've been watching this shit show with the

24:34

Supreme Court happen for damn near 30 years now.

24:37

Well, it sounds like you're giving up on the

24:39

very essence of what this country's about, which is

24:41

the balance of powers between the three branches. I'm

24:45

not quite ready to give up on this. Well, I'm not ready to

24:47

give up either, but I also don't want to spend the next seven,

24:49

eight months fighting against a Republican-appointed

24:51

Supreme Court that is going to have

24:53

zero—our arguments are going to have zero

24:55

impact from now until then. The most

24:57

important thing we can do is make

24:59

sure Donald Trump isn't in the White

25:01

House. And

25:04

that means we've all beaten. Well,

25:07

of course, we're about to go

25:09

home again. Well, you're not going to like

25:11

this bill. I

25:13

think there's two ways to look at 91

25:15

indictments, okay? You

25:17

can either look at 91 indictments and

25:19

say, wow, 91 indictments. Surely

25:22

this person has done one of these

25:25

things, right? You can

25:27

also look at 91 indictments and say, wow, 91

25:30

indictments, they are really out

25:32

to get him, and they are not going

25:34

to stop until something sticks. Or

25:37

could it be a little of both? It could be a little of both,

25:39

but what I think is happening is that with every additional indictment,

25:44

people moved from the first group

25:47

into the second group, and each

25:49

additional indictment had less and less

25:52

purchase with the American people. See, this is

25:54

the problem, is that the only trial that

25:56

may be going forward now because of the

25:58

Supreme Court is the one that really... we

26:00

don't care about it, I don't care about the Stormy Daniels

26:02

one. That really wouldn't affect the

26:04

election anyway. But as far as the

26:07

one that really matters, the Jack

26:09

Smith one, where he's accused of

26:11

trying to steal the American people's right

26:13

to vote, which he was, that

26:16

one is what they're ruling on. Now, back

26:18

in December, Jack

26:21

Smith asked the Supreme Court, could you rule on

26:23

this? No, we're busy, or whatever. Now

26:25

they're doing it. This is a deliberate

26:27

delaying tactic, because now they're

26:30

not going to come out with this

26:32

until June, probably. They have to think about it.

26:36

Then he gets to prepare for trial.

26:38

So it probably won't happen until the

26:40

fall, if that. Okay, but Bill, can

26:42

I ask you something? As a person

26:44

who's on the side that sees itself

26:47

as the defenders of democracy, there's no

26:49

part of you that is made uncomfortable

26:51

by this exploding,

26:54

ever-growing, lawfare effort

26:56

to disqualify the most popular- Not if

26:58

the guy's guilty. Of course not.

27:00

You don't think he's guilty? I

27:03

think that every single one of

27:05

you, there was- Who won the election?

27:08

Who won the 2020 election? Well, obviously,

27:10

Joe Biden. Well, it's not obvious to Trump.

27:13

That's not a crime. I mean, that's- Well,

27:16

it kind of is when you're president. It's not a crime

27:19

to have a disagreement with you about who won.

27:21

It's a crime to put up false electors. So here's

27:23

the question. It's a crime to call a guy on

27:25

the phone and say, I need to find 11,000 votes.

27:28

Well, that's- That's a crime. That is

27:30

made in a crime. Maybe. And

27:32

if he's not innocent until proven guilty? What's

27:34

this? If he's not innocent until proven guilty? That's why

27:37

I want the goddamn trial. And

27:41

by the way, who

27:45

heard of Americans want this?

27:48

Over half of independents say the verdict

27:50

in this trial is

27:52

essential to how they're going to vote. This

27:55

is the thing. His

27:57

friends on the Supreme Court- Now, I- I

28:00

can't look into people's minds. But

28:02

it does look like they are running out the

28:04

clock, because you know that after

28:06

he gets reelected, which is ever more likely,

28:09

these trials will never happen. Do

28:11

you really think he would let the trial happen after

28:13

he was reelected? I

28:15

don't think he would let the trial happen after

28:17

he was elected, definitely. But I do, to Tim's

28:20

point earlier, I'm just going

28:22

to... To Tim's point earlier, Donald

28:25

Trump is the most popular politician

28:27

in America. The side

28:29

that claims to be the defenders

28:31

of democracy should want that

28:33

fight to happen at the ballot box. I do.

28:36

Well, that's a different case. Those are different cases.

28:38

There are three states now that have said he

28:40

can't run because he's an insurrectionist, which he is.

28:43

But okay, I still think you're right. Colorado was

28:45

the first one. And by the way, his pals

28:48

on the Supreme Court, that one they heard right

28:50

away. Yeah. We're going to get an

28:52

answer to that very quickly. That one suddenly was an

28:54

emergency. But I do think he

28:56

should be on the ballot because you're right, he is

28:58

popular. I agree. He should

29:00

be on the ballot. I think that's a terrible idea.

29:02

He should be on the ballot. And the people going

29:05

to test their ballots should have the knowledge of these

29:07

trials. Both things should happen.

29:09

Let me say real quick. It's

29:15

not whether or not you think

29:17

he's guilty or I think he's guilty or anybody

29:19

thinks he's guilty. The question is,

29:22

is he above the law? And

29:25

is he getting preferential treatment because of

29:27

who he is? Because if

29:29

you're Joe Shit the Ragman in Youngstown, Ohio,

29:32

guess what? Your ass is

29:34

going to trial. Right. And

29:36

you're going to go to jail and it's

29:38

probably going to happen rather quickly. And so

29:40

he is getting preferential treatment. Every

29:43

signal that the Supreme Court

29:45

is sending is that he

29:47

is above the law and

29:49

no citizen should be okay

29:51

with it. And it's not

29:53

just him. It's so dangerous about

29:55

this. The movement

29:58

he is leading. CPAC,

30:00

do you know what that is? That is the

30:02

conservative... Unfortunately. What is

30:04

PAC? Political Action Committee. Political Action Committee.

30:07

Okay. It's their big convention every year.

30:10

It's like corporations have a big convention, they

30:12

have their big convention. I've made jokes about

30:14

it every year. I can't remember but... We

30:16

did it. It goes way back. I

30:19

remember once calling it the Woodstock for

30:21

the mentally impaired. And... And...

30:26

It's... But

30:28

in years past, it was

30:31

like the most conservative commentators and

30:33

senators and governors and... Okay,

30:35

this year, there's a guy, I've heard this

30:37

name, I don't know who he is, Jack

30:39

Prosobik. He's doing sort

30:41

of like a roundtable discussion,

30:44

you know, it's a convention, they have these things.

30:47

This is a quote, welcome to the end

30:49

of democracy, we are here to overthrow

30:51

it completely. We didn't get all

30:53

the way there on January 6th, but

30:56

we will endeavor to get rid of it. Am I

30:58

missing an irony here? Am

31:01

I missing a joke? Or is it the

31:03

themes now? They are saying the quiet

31:06

part out loud? Yeah.

31:08

That they are not. This is CPAC, this is

31:10

their big, this is Republican, conservative, their big convention.

31:13

And you have a guy like this and the

31:15

crowd is loving it. Welcome

31:17

to the end of democracy, we are here to

31:19

overthrow it. January 6th was good, now we are

31:21

going to finish the job. Thoughts?

31:25

It's scary. Thoughts

31:27

on that? Bill, that was a joke

31:29

about Trump making a joke about being

31:31

a dictator day one in office. That

31:33

is an ironic take on how the

31:35

liberal media... Well that was my question, am I

31:38

missing the irony? Conservatives, I think so, yes, it's a joke.

31:40

Really? And I think more to the

31:42

point, to

31:45

you Bill and to... Keep your day job, Jack. I

31:49

think to

31:51

you and to most Democrats,

31:54

Trump is an extremist. But

31:57

to Trump's borders, he... is

32:00

a liberal and they like that about

32:02

him. Yes. So for example, if

32:04

you look at his position on abortion, 16 weeks,

32:08

okay, that used to be like the

32:10

Democrats position on abortion. I agree. He just

32:12

got $45,000 from the Teamsters

32:15

Union who gave to the RNC

32:17

a week after meeting with Trump,

32:19

his position on immigration. That was

32:21

the Democrats position in the 90s. He's

32:24

pro gay, and he's courting blacks actively.

32:26

And all of this is stuff that

32:28

his supporters love about him.

32:30

Right. So we are in the on

32:33

the on the liberal side, the liberal

32:35

media is misunderstanding how he comes off

32:37

to his supporters because of how they agree with

32:39

that. They don't get him at all. They

32:41

don't get him and they don't get the appeal. I've

32:44

said it a million times in this show. You can

32:46

hate Trump. You can't hate all the people who like

32:48

him. It's half the country. And there's so much crazy

32:50

shit on the left that would

32:53

I ever vote for Trump? No, but I get it. I can

32:56

get it. I mean, I read very unique.

32:58

I read this week that there's like

33:00

a thousand and forty four school

33:02

districts now. This is a good

33:05

repost for the people who say, oh, Bill, you just pick

33:07

on the fringe of the left over a

33:09

thousand school districts. That's a lot who will

33:11

not tell the parents if

33:13

the kid transitions. So your

33:15

kid, your daughter's going to school and they're calling a

33:17

larry and you don't know it. That's

33:22

the kind of stuff. All

33:26

right. I want to get back to you

33:29

can't apologize for

33:31

what Trump does. Like you can say

33:34

he's pro gay, he's pro

33:36

choice, all of these things. But

33:38

then he nominates Supreme Court nominees

33:40

that are from the federalist side.

33:42

And so he's in tax

33:44

cuts for the rich. He doesn't try to jam pro

33:47

gay rights legislation. No, the Senate, dressed arms

33:49

and all that. Right. Couldn't do anything. All

33:51

he did was pass a tax cut and

33:54

then he nominated the extreme people to the

33:56

Supreme Court that are now making sure that

33:58

he doesn't have a trial. so you

34:00

can, he says everything, like he's been

34:02

on every side of every issue. I'm

34:04

sorry. You can check that too. That's

34:06

ingenious. I

34:09

remember the woman, he was running in 2016, I

34:11

think he was on Chris Matthews and the abortion

34:13

issue came up and he said, well I think

34:15

you're going to have to put the doctors in

34:17

jail. I remember after

34:19

one of the gun shootings, he was like, Mike,

34:21

why don't we take away the guns first? You

34:23

know, Thane said if anybody else said, it would

34:26

be anathema on the right, but it's

34:28

just Trump. You know, yeah. All

34:30

right. So I'll just

34:32

ask you this in one second, but there's a great

34:35

story that I did want to mention

34:37

that's going on this week that I think

34:39

is bringing the country together. We need more

34:41

of that. Beyonce has the number one hit

34:43

song on the country charts. I think this

34:45

is fantastic. And

34:51

of course, you know, one of her big

34:53

supporters was always Kanye. I think we all

34:55

remember when he grabbed the mic out of Taylor

34:57

Swift's hand just to say Beyonce is one of the

34:59

greatest video of all time. So

35:02

we know he's a team Beyonce. So he's getting

35:04

on the bandwagon now and Kanye's put out a

35:06

country album. It's called, I have

35:08

it here. It's

35:10

called Yeezus Take the Wheel. And there it

35:13

is. If

35:16

you'd like to hear some of the songs

35:18

that are on Kanye's

35:21

country album, all

35:23

my exes have big asses. These

35:26

are all country songs

35:29

sometimes. I forgot to remember to

35:31

forget to take my meds. You're

35:39

cheating accountant. You

35:47

don't bring these samples anymore. When

35:54

did you stop loving me? Was it around the

35:56

time I started attacking the Jews? I've

36:05

worn before. I

36:14

crossed the line. I'm

36:22

so loathsome I could cry. And

36:28

my favorite Kanye country song, try

36:30

that in a hospital gown. So,

36:37

let's get

36:41

back to talking about this working man thing, because I

36:43

know that's your big thing and I know you write

36:45

about it a lot in your book. I

36:47

feel like the election is

36:49

going to be now. The Democrats want

36:51

to run on abortion and

36:53

shall we say other ick issues related.

36:56

The embryos, that kind of

36:58

stuff, contraception. The

37:01

Republicans want to run on immigration. And

37:04

I saw in a poll recently, and this is an

37:06

issue they ask every presidential

37:09

year, like who do you think

37:11

supports you as like the kind of, I

37:13

can't remember how they phrase it, but like

37:15

the common man. Who

37:18

feels your pain kind of question? And

37:20

it's true, the Republicans are encroaching on that. And

37:23

that should be the Democrats' turf, I feel. My

37:26

reading it always was that what I was just talking

37:28

about with the school thing, Republicans

37:30

always get voters on social

37:33

issues. They don't like that stuff. They don't

37:35

like, oh, I can't find out if my

37:37

child is transitioning, those kind of issues. The

37:40

economic issues, you seem to say, and I

37:43

don't get this, that that is a friendly

37:45

turf for the Republicans, because

37:47

I feel that's where the Democrats are

37:49

doing better for the real people. And

37:52

they don't advertise it very well. And

37:55

that should be their territory. So,

37:58

before Trump. You

38:00

had two parties. You had the

38:02

GOP, which was the party of the rich, the

38:05

party of corporations, the party of tax cuts. Country

38:07

Club. Country Club, okay. The Chamber of Commerce.

38:09

Right. Right, is what working class people will

38:12

call it. Party of Business. And then you had

38:14

the Democrats. Now the Democrats used to be the party of

38:16

labor. They used to be the party of the working class

38:18

50, 60 years ago. But

38:20

they lost those voters

38:23

to the college educated elites and then

38:26

the dependent poor. Right. So

38:28

the Democratic Party now is bifurcated, right?

38:30

They cater to college educated, credentialed elites

38:32

and then to people who are poor

38:34

and live on the government and cannot

38:36

support themselves. What that meant was there

38:39

was no party representing 60% of Americans

38:41

who are working class, middle

38:43

class, working really hard trying to make it. Trump

38:47

showed up and he spoke directly to

38:49

those people. And I'm sorry, Bill, but

38:51

he made a difference for them. He

38:54

changed the calculation. He didn't. Let

38:56

me tell you why. When

38:58

he showed up, there was a

39:00

handshake agreement between both parties on

39:03

free trade. You remember NAFTA? That

39:05

was the Democrats, okay. That

39:08

was the Democrats changing from representing the working

39:10

class to representing the elites. Right. Now the

39:12

Democrats represent nine of the 10 richest counties

39:15

in America. Did you know that 65% of

39:17

Americans who make more than $500,000 a year

39:19

now vote Democrat? Stop

39:22

yelling at me. I'm sorry. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I

39:26

think he can out. I think he can out-waste

39:28

that the Democrats lost the working class. Okay.

39:32

And what Trump did was he said, we're not doing free trade anymore.

39:35

We're going to trade war in China. Why

39:37

do we have any policy that... Would

39:40

you think that helped the working class, the trade war

39:42

in China? They think it helped them. And if you think... Sorry,

39:45

I'm not... They think exactly. Let me just

39:47

ask you. You think a person living on a shoestring

39:49

budget who doesn't have $400 for your urgency, is

39:52

it wrong about which president is helping

39:54

him? I think so because... Really? Trump...

39:57

Look, Bill's right. That's

40:00

all I got

40:03

to say. The

40:08

sentiment of Trump—I'm from

40:10

Northeast Ohio. I represent

40:12

Youngstown, Akron, Rust Belt

40:14

towns. I watched what

40:16

Trump did. And he

40:18

was able to connect. But the

40:21

fact of the matter is, when

40:23

he got in, he had one

40:25

signature legislative accomplishment. And that

40:27

was a major tax cut for the

40:29

wealthiest people that live in those counties.

40:32

And that was the only thing he did. And

40:36

look, I've been

40:39

very, very critical—I've

40:42

been critical of the Biden administration on

40:44

things. But the reality

40:46

of it is—and this is undeniable—Joe

40:48

Biden has reindustrialized the United States

40:51

of America. Between the CHIP

40:53

Act—and we're saying that in Ohio,

40:56

you can just take Ohio

40:58

as a microcosm, the CHIPS Act that was passed,

41:00

which is bringing back chip manufacturing for the first

41:02

time in 30 or 40 years. Huge

41:06

$100 billion facility just outside of Columbus,

41:08

Ohio, by Intel. You take

41:10

the bipartisan infrastructure bill. We're going to rebuild

41:12

this country. Over a trillion dollars is going

41:14

to be spent. So why is he losing Ohio?

41:16

Well, let me finish real quick. The Inflation

41:18

Reduction Act. We have battery plants

41:20

being built in Ohio. We

41:23

have electric car manufacturers expanding production.

41:25

We have bridges being built. The

41:27

union construction guys are going to

41:29

work like crazy. So

41:31

he has done it. But the

41:33

reality of it is, one, it hasn't sunk

41:36

in message-wise. And

41:38

two is, these people have been getting

41:40

screwed for 40 years, so it's going to take a

41:42

long time to pull the middle

41:45

class back together that has been getting

41:47

de-industrialized and losing their union jobs since

41:49

the late 1970s. Black,

41:51

mundane, and the other side of Ohio. But why

41:53

do you even need a message if you're actually

41:55

going to the job that the guy created? I

41:57

mean, isn't that the message? Why do we need it?

42:01

Not everybody's working there yet. The

42:03

plants aren't open yet, but the construction guys

42:05

are building them. They're moving dirt, you know,

42:07

in the battery plant outside of Young Stanley.

42:09

They have 700 people working there. The other

42:11

big issue people- But you have to take

42:13

credit for it. Trump, Obama, Clinton.

42:15

Wait, wait, wait, wait. The idea that you

42:17

both agree with is that there's a whole

42:19

bunch of working class people in Ohio who

42:22

have been given good jobs in

42:24

the American dream by Biden, and

42:26

they just don't realize it. Like, that's

42:28

the theory, really? Well, some of

42:30

that- That's the idea, go back. Well, he's done a

42:33

hell of a lot more than cut taxes for the

42:35

wealthiest people. Okay, okay. And the reality of it is,

42:37

I just watched a speech by Bill Clinton in 1996,

42:39

right? The economy was

42:41

booming. He was saying the stock market was

42:43

high, but he kept going back to the

42:45

fact that there's still

42:47

so many people that need to get into

42:50

the new economy. The reality of it is

42:52

that Donald Trump's of the world, who, oh,

42:54

by the way, when he was doing union

42:56

contracts in New Jersey, didn't pay

42:59

the workers. So it's hard to make the

43:01

argument that he's super pro worker. There's

43:03

a lot of small businesses that got

43:05

screwed by Trump filing bankruptcy. But

43:07

the reality of it is, it's gotta be, we've

43:10

made some huge investments. We're re-industrializing

43:12

the country. I give a

43:14

damn about you. I understand, but we got a

43:16

hell of a long way to go. He was

43:18

the vice president when Obama passed Obamacare.

43:21

That matters to people's pocketbooks more

43:23

than almost anything. Health care. Obamacare did

43:25

more for people, actual people. Trump came

43:28

into office and he was like, it's

43:30

gonna be amazing, terrific. We got

43:32

something, it's gonna be, right? It's

43:35

gonna be, am I

43:38

wrong? You

43:40

know he stands behind that big banner

43:43

that says, promise is kept. What promise

43:45

did it ever keep to hold the

43:47

asbestos industry? There was gonna be health

43:49

care for everyone. It's gonna be free.

43:52

No one will die. Never even

43:54

come up with a piece of paper. They didn't

43:56

even have a plan. So that to me is

43:58

exactly who Donald Trump is. Trump is, the con

44:01

man who promised you something and then

44:03

just gives you nothing. First Obamacare was

44:05

real. Well, do you

44:07

think the country is better off

44:09

now than it was four years ago? You

44:11

really can't say that with a straight face, that we're

44:14

doing better now than in 2018,

44:16

like economically in terms of this immigration crisis.

44:19

Do you think we're doing better now than four years

44:21

ago, really? Well there was a pandemic in the middle

44:23

of it which we overreacted to. And

44:26

recovered from? And recovered from. Well, who

44:28

did that? Do you think the country is better

44:30

off now than it was four years ago? I

44:32

think after, I think it was these two

44:35

crisis, I think there was two

44:39

major economic crises in this century. One

44:41

was the meltdown in 2008. Obama

44:44

came in, no drama Obama. People

44:46

like Mitt Romney said, let the auto industry die.

44:50

Didn't. The country

44:52

didn't go into a depression and it could

44:54

have with the wrong president. I also think

44:56

the wrong president. We came back better

44:59

for the pandemic than any other big boy country in

45:01

the world. So yes, I do think it

45:03

matters who the president is. I'm

45:05

just saying, we're going to get better off now than

45:07

four years ago. Four years ago

45:09

was 2020? In 2018. I

45:11

don't know. I was wearing a mask. I

45:15

hated my life. 2018,

45:17

are we better off now than we were in 2018? Here's

45:20

the reality. If you got money. We're not

45:23

worse. How are we worse? In

45:25

what way are we so, what's so terrible out

45:27

there that wasn't happening in 2018? We

45:29

asked the American people, I mean,

45:31

inflation, immigration crisis, eight million people

45:34

here who cross here illegally. We

45:36

don't know who they are. Crime's

45:38

being committed. I mean. Well,

45:40

I mean, crimes are being committed always. People

45:42

can't afford homes because of the high rate,

45:44

the mortgage rate. Well, immigration is. Well, if Trump

45:46

would have built the wall, maybe all these people wouldn't

45:48

be coming over illegally. Oh, so you support the whole

45:51

thing alone? I don't know. I don't know. I'm

45:54

just saying. You guys. You guys. Oh,

45:56

no, no, no. I'm going to say it. You

45:58

guys won. You guys want it both

46:00

ways. You can't have it both ways. You're blaming Biden for

46:03

immigration. Trump said he was going to build a wall. He

46:05

didn't do shit. That's not right. There's

46:07

another one. I'm sorry.

46:10

You can't really think of it. We're

46:12

having a— And here's the problem.

46:16

Langford, the Republican senator from Oklahoma,

46:18

is a great guy, right? I

46:20

don't agree with him on everything.

46:22

Very conservative. A very conservative guy.

46:24

Served in the House with him. He's a good dude, right? He

46:27

goes out of his way to put together

46:29

an immigration package, works with the Democrats. They

46:32

have a package that's going to pass the

46:34

United States Senate. Completely hypocritical. And then Trump

46:36

said, no, you can't vote for him. Because

46:38

they want it as a campaign issue. They

46:41

were screaming and screaming. There's an invasion

46:44

going on. It's an emergency. So

46:46

the Democrats called their bluff and came up

46:48

with this bill written by a conservative Republican

46:50

senator. And then it was like, oh, maybe

46:52

we'll do that next year. What did I

46:54

say? Emergency? We got plenty of time. Yeah.

46:56

Anyway, I'll have to cut it

46:58

off there. It's time for Newell.

47:00

I enjoyed it. Okay,

47:10

Newell, now that Alabama's Supreme Court is

47:12

ruled that frozen embryos are children. Kentucky

47:15

has to go one better and declare that

47:17

the tissue I use to jerk off into

47:19

is an unlicensed daycare center. Newell,

47:25

oil tarrif Oil

47:31

Caribbean can keep

47:33

bragging endlessly about its new icon of

47:35

the seas, the largest cruise ship ever

47:38

built with its eight neighborhoods, seven pools,

47:40

zipline courts, indoor theater and massive

47:42

water park, as long as it also

47:44

mentions the toilet. Where

47:48

you'll be spending 90 percent of your

47:50

vacation after contracting the norovirus. say

48:00

I'll try every anything once to

48:03

admit that's not true for example

48:05

I will not try glory holes

48:14

call me old-fashioned but I prefer to

48:16

have my relationships fall on that middle

48:19

ground between marriage and having no

48:21

idea who's blowing me now

48:30

that China has agreed to loan two

48:32

giant pandas to the San Diego Zoo

48:34

in a gesture of goodwill America must

48:37

reciprocate by sending China to have our

48:39

rare and exotic creatures okay

48:49

so it's not a perfect apples-for-apples

48:52

swap one one

48:54

country is offering a pair of

48:56

reclusive mammals that subsists exclusively on

48:58

bamboo and we get pandas well

49:08

now that Magan nation has the

49:10

hats and has the

49:12

flag they must get it over with

49:14

and come up with a Trump salute you

49:17

know some sort of hand signal that he does

49:19

for you and then you do it back to

49:21

him to signify that you're all part of the

49:24

movement and again might I suggest the jerking off

49:26

two guys at one finally

49:43

new rule if the Democrats want to

49:45

win the next presidential election they need

49:47

to find a way to make the

49:50

Biden age issue work for them because

49:52

you know it's really getting old about

49:54

Joe Biden complaining about his age yes

49:57

we're all worried Joe is not as quick as it used

49:59

to be But. When. Did we start

50:01

insisting that our president's be smart like

50:04

these assholes. Trying

50:13

to set. I'm trying to refute

50:15

all the too old to be

50:17

president slams. Joe must embrace them.

50:20

Stop. With the i'm sharper than ever.

50:22

Nobody's buying that. Sounds

50:26

try to deny the age thing. Lean

50:28

into it mean in. Lean. In

50:30

like you're eating soup. And

50:40

just a minute, say yes.

50:42

I'm bad with names and

50:44

I was like a toddler

50:46

with a full diverse. What?

50:50

I believe in your locker issue

50:52

because Jos problem is not a

50:54

new one for democrats, not the

50:56

age thing specifically. But. The

50:58

idea. Of letting the opposition

51:01

intimidate you into being defensive about

51:03

who you really are. Yes,

51:05

That we've seen before. John Kerry pretending

51:07

to be a duck hunter. Hillary

51:12

carrying hot sauce

51:14

in her purse,

51:19

Americans hate that shit. Be

51:22

yourself and joe yourself his

51:24

old. Who

51:26

are. All.

51:31

oh, you're the guy or things An

51:33

app is the sound a chihuahua makes

51:35

when it comes. You

51:45

want sell down the stairs of the Underground

51:48

Railroad? Yourself

51:57

is is. Here

51:59

So. your bad kid with a drug

52:01

problem is 54. Take

52:09

a page from your old pal John McCain,

52:11

who ran for president as a senior citizen

52:14

and said, I'm older than

52:16

dirt. I have more scars than Frankenstein,

52:19

but I've learned a few things along the way.

52:21

Exactly. Own it. Own

52:24

it. No

52:29

one cares if you can ride a bike and

52:32

trying to do stuff like that is only setting

52:34

yourself up for failure. You recently

52:36

joined TikTok to win over the kids. Get

52:38

off that shit right now. It's

52:41

in our senses and it won't

52:44

work. You're

52:46

not following the demographics. In

52:49

2020, a record number

52:51

of eligible voters under 24 came

52:53

out as gay, but came

52:56

out to vote not so much. Less

52:59

than half, but almost 72% of people over 65

53:01

voted. Those

53:04

are your people, Joe, the Matlock crowd.

53:06

Reach out to them. Reach

53:08

out to them. Reach

53:13

out to them. Reach out like it's a

53:15

wrong number at dinner. Take

53:20

all your ads off Twitter and put them

53:23

on CBS. Tell

53:26

America I feel your joint pain. Less

53:31

than love you. Less

53:35

than love you as a relatable

53:37

figure in a way only you can. You

53:39

think you're the only old geezer who ever

53:41

called LL Cool J, LLJ Cool J? So

53:46

next Thursday, when the president delivers the

53:49

State of the Union, I say he

53:52

should let his old fart flag fly. Only

54:02

if rescue ships should look something

54:04

like this. Mr.

54:07

Speaker, the President of the United States! Mr.

54:37

Speaker, Madam Webb,

54:42

members of Congress, my fellow denture

54:44

wearers, and all the folks gathered

54:46

around the radio. I

54:50

come here tonight to report that the state

54:52

of our union is regular. And

55:01

to ask one question, what are you all

55:03

doing here in Scranton? And

55:09

to those who say I'm too old

55:11

to serve a modern day America, I

55:13

say horse feathers. Why,

55:20

under my administration, America is now

55:22

taking the lead in producing high

55:24

fiber optic state-of-the-art semiconductors. Does that

55:26

sound old to you? I

55:36

have no idea what they are. But

55:39

I know they help with our plan to

55:41

expand internet access to rural America so farmers

55:43

can FaceTime with their cows. Of course,

55:53

my opponent would like to take us back

55:55

to the past, not the good past of

55:57

Bobby Soxers and copping a feel at the

55:59

drive-in. But

56:02

the bad past of racism and denying

56:05

a woman's right to choose. I remember

56:07

once in 1950 I was playing stickball

56:09

with corn pop and he hit the

56:11

ball into the back of an alley

56:13

and I went in to get it

56:16

and walked right into an abortion. Thank

56:20

God for progress, ladies and gentlemen.

56:28

Just last week a special screening was set up

56:30

at the White House and my wife Diane and

56:32

I watched

56:41

the movie Maestro. That

56:45

poor gay Jew had to marry a woman.

56:48

We must do better. There

56:52

are no more tiny words on the menu.

56:56

Is that enough? The cashier girl makes a face

56:58

when we don't know how to use the gizmo.

57:07

My friend, when

57:09

I first came here as a senator,

57:11

Washington welcomed me with open arms. Not

57:14

the place, the guy. And

57:17

that is a virtue. You don't want a young

57:19

person in charge of our defense. We need a

57:22

president who can stand up to Russia and say

57:24

to its current president, Mr. Gorbachev, cut off my

57:26

lawn. In

57:35

conclusion, let me remind you that I

57:37

have not forgotten the hardworking small business

57:39

owners who are the backbone of this

57:41

great country, which is why I invited

57:43

here tonight in the gallery Jack Wilkins,

57:46

whose pet training business was there for the

57:49

Biden family when we needed help with our

57:51

beloved dog commander. Thank you, Jack.

58:00

Whoa Whoa whoa whoa whoa Whoa.

58:05

Whoa Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa

58:07

whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa

58:09

Whoa.