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Rated PG-13. Welcome

1:00

to an HBO podcast from the HBO

1:02

Late Night Series, Real Time with Bill

1:04

Maher. How

1:27

you doing? Thank

1:29

you very much. How

1:31

are you? Hello down

1:35

there. Look at this thing.

1:37

There you are. There's

1:40

everybody. Thank you very

1:42

much. All

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right. Please, we have a big show. We'll

1:48

be right back. Thank you. Thank

1:51

you. All

1:54

right. Please, we have a big

1:56

show. Let's get right to it. I know.

1:58

I know. It's exciting. And I know why

2:01

you're happy because it's a weekend to remember

2:03

when St. Patrick's Day falls on a Sunday

2:05

Are you excited about that? St. Patrick, it'd be

2:07

like the old days before I was empic when

2:10

you lost weight by vomiting And

2:17

I'm Irish American, where are my Irish Americans

2:20

here? Somewhere? It

2:23

used to be a big thing, I guess, but he gives

2:25

a fuck anyway, but anyway But

2:28

we used to go nuts about I guess they still

2:30

do there's a parade in New York this in Chicago

2:32

They turn the River Green and

2:35

in Washington DC Lauren Bober jerks off the

2:37

leprechaun Keep

2:44

an eye out for leprechauns, you know about

2:46

leprechauns. They're very rich Did you know that

2:48

leprechauns are very rich and they're and

2:51

they're tiny and they're hard to find like Kate Middleton

2:57

I don't know What

3:01

have you been following that story what's going

3:03

on Kate Middleton The

3:05

Bushy the princess whatever she is. She's disappeared

3:07

and now they say big scandal.

3:09

She's not they seem not wearing a wedding ring

3:16

Well, this is you know the royal family this

3:18

is why they always warn you never marry outside

3:20

the family Okay,

3:29

so here's the big political news the rematch

3:31

no one wanted is on

3:34

became official this week Both Biden and

3:36

Trump got the necessary delegates and

3:38

all listen to this half the country almost half

3:40

the country know Approves

3:42

of Trump's job when he was

3:45

president. I thought Biden had memory

3:47

problems Wow This

3:55

week comes up there's so much cutting we could do

3:58

talking about Social Security And

4:00

then of course he had to backtrack. Nobody cares. Nobody

4:02

listens to what he says anyway. They don't take him

4:05

seriously. But that's a pretty...if anybody else had done that,

4:07

that would be a big thing. We're cutting Social Security.

4:09

He said no. He would never cut Social Security. That's

4:11

where his supporters get the money to send to him.

4:21

The other big Trump story, you know, he's got the trial

4:23

going on in Georgia. You know the one where he asked

4:25

for 11,000 votes. He

4:27

said, you know, the one that prosecuted her, a woman named

4:29

Fawny Willis. Yeah, I

4:31

know. Well,

4:33

the ruling came down today. You know, she was

4:35

in this situation where she was fucking, dating,

4:39

whatever, in love. I don't know what it was. With

4:44

the lead prosecutor who she hired for the job.

4:46

But they said now she can stay on. But

4:49

she has to fire the boyfriend. Thus

4:52

ending the people versus some good dick.

4:57

I never... I

5:01

never understood what the scandal was in

5:03

this. You know, I think the law

5:05

has spoken. You're not allowed to stand

5:07

an election, even if the

5:09

person who caught you has a boyfriend. I think

5:11

that's the legal... I

5:14

can't find anything more about it. You

5:20

can't have sex with someone you meet at work.

5:24

Where most people meet... What

5:26

the fuck is that? No, if you're a

5:29

moral decent human being, you can find sex

5:31

to strangers you meet on the phone. That's

5:33

how you do it. Here's

5:39

the thing. The

5:42

Republicans were claiming that Nathan Wade, he's the

5:44

prosecutor that she hired, was

5:47

completely unqualified for the task of

5:50

prosecuting Donald Trump, their hero. And

5:52

he was unqualified. So they got him fired.

5:55

I'm starting to think these people aren't that bright. If

6:06

you have to think about it, it's not worth it. But

6:13

the big story this week, of course, everyone's talking

6:15

about TikTok. I

6:18

know, China makes TikTok and it's poisoning the

6:20

minds of our kids so we got to

6:22

eat shit China. That's

6:24

what I say. The

6:29

house voted that either it sells to an

6:31

American company or they're going to ban it.

6:33

Because China, you know what, you can manufacture

6:35

everything else that we use, but keeping our

6:37

kids stupid, that's our job. And

6:46

TikTok, not the only site that's in

6:48

trouble, Pornhub, Pornhub fans.

6:53

As a guy will admit it, look at that guy. And

6:56

he's with his wife, that's very brave. But

7:00

now their band had to pull out of

7:02

Texas. And

7:04

they're not the first state. No

7:06

Pornhub in Texas, Arkansas, Louisiana, Mississippi,

7:08

Utah. I tell you, these red

7:10

states, no

7:12

Pornhub, no legal abortion, no legal weed.

7:16

All these people who moved out of California originally,

7:18

how are we looking now? All right, we've got

7:20

a great show. We have 200 people.

7:24

Nancy Mason, Raltona. But

7:26

first up, he is the former attorney

7:29

general under President Obama, is now the

7:31

chairman of the National Democratic Redistrict Committee,

7:33

Eric Holder. You

7:48

look well-rested. I end up, but I know

7:50

you've been busy. I guess congratulations are in

7:52

order. I read this committee that you're part

7:54

of, the registering committee, made

7:58

it that we had the best. It's the

8:00

most fair elections in 2022 as far

8:02

as redistricting that we've had ever. In

8:04

the last 40 years. 40 years. And

8:07

it's going to be even better in 2020? Yes. So how

8:09

did you get that done? You know,

8:11

we had a state-by-state strategy and we

8:14

decided we'd use different strategies in different

8:16

states, electing people who would stand for

8:18

fairness, putting in place independent commissions to

8:20

draw the lines, and then bringing

8:22

lawsuits where we had to do that. So

8:24

we'll use the courts as well as the

8:27

electoral process to make the system more fair.

8:29

Okay, so both sides do gerrymandering, though. Is

8:32

that correct? I mean... It's true,

8:34

but I think if you look at what the Republicans

8:36

did in 2011, Princeton University did a study and said

8:38

it was the worst gerrymandering of the last 50 years.

8:41

And comparing what Democrats do in

8:44

terms of gerrymandering as opposed to Republicans, it's like

8:46

comparing a pea to a watermelon. Is

8:49

there really that business? Yeah, yeah. More

8:53

than what? Okay, but... I

8:56

have read about places that were gerrymandered

8:58

for the Democrats. So if they both do

9:00

it, what do you say to people who

9:02

would argue, well, how can

9:04

you have the moral high ground? It sounds to

9:06

me like the other side just does it better.

9:08

Well, no, because I stood against Democrats who actually

9:10

did gerrymander. I stood against Democrats in Maryland. I

9:13

stood against Democrats in New Jersey and Virginia who

9:15

wanted to use the power that they had to

9:17

try to gerrymander. And I said that

9:19

the maps, for instance, in Illinois were not maps that

9:21

I necessarily would have drawn. What

9:24

we have tried to do at the NDRC is to stand

9:26

simply for fairness. Here's the deal. If the

9:28

system is fair, if the maps are fair, Democrats and

9:30

progressives will do just fine. We don't have to put

9:32

our thumb on the scale. Republicans

9:34

have made peace with the notion that they're going

9:36

to be a minority party in terms of popular

9:39

support, but they want to have majority power. And

9:41

that's what we have to fight against. Well,

9:44

okay. So as

9:49

a former head of the Justice Department, I've

9:52

got to ask you about these trials. The

9:54

Trump trials. I mean, we're coming up on four years.

9:58

I know you would never want to criticize. someone

10:00

who is your successor in the post. But

10:03

I have to. Because

10:05

Merrick Garland, sorry,

10:08

four years, Trump's going to delay his way.

10:10

They say all four of them now. And

10:14

we need to say, even independents, even conservatives,

10:16

say they want to see the trial, they

10:18

want to see the results of these trials,

10:21

and if he can run

10:23

out the clock till the next election, then

10:26

the trials will never happen, of course. So

10:29

what is your assessment of how this was

10:31

handled? Why could not it have been done

10:33

quicker? Yeah, I mean, I'm

10:35

not familiar, obviously, with all the inner

10:38

workings of what happened in the- You're not? Well, I

10:40

wasn't there. I wasn't the attorney general.

10:42

But you know more than we do. Well, but

10:44

I don't know exactly what happened in these particular

10:46

cases. But it takes four years to bring

10:48

a case to trial like this? No, I mean,

10:51

clearly the Justice Department could have and should have

10:53

brought those indictments sooner. But it's

10:55

also true of what happened in the states. And

10:57

I'm really concerned that at this point, as you

11:00

just said, the possibility exists that all four of

11:02

these cases, for a variety of reasons, may not

11:04

get resolved before the election, depriving the American

11:06

people of a piece of information or pieces of

11:08

information that they need to have in order to

11:10

make a calculated decision who should be

11:13

the next president of the United States. Now,

11:16

what do you make of this phony

11:18

Willis situation that I was making fun

11:20

of in the monologue? I never understood

11:22

what the scandal was. It seemed like

11:24

it was better for the Republicans. What

11:27

was in it for them to go after her? It

11:30

seemed like she's single, is

11:32

a little messy, but plainly

11:34

that marriage was kind of over. I mean,

11:36

this is something that happens all the time to human

11:38

beings. What was the

11:40

issue? You see, Ruth? It's all

11:42

about delay. Oh,

11:45

I see. By forcing us to focus

11:47

on this relationship, takes attention away

11:50

from the underlying charges. Now

11:52

the prosecutor's got to leave. You watch,

11:55

they're gonna appeal. They're

11:57

gonna try to move things back, keep moving things

11:59

back. Their aim is to have these

12:01

trials take place, if they take place at all,

12:03

after November the 5th. That

12:06

is the primary goal. Right. Well,

12:08

what do you think? They're going to succeed or

12:10

not? I still have hope about the January 6th

12:13

trial in D.C. That's the big

12:15

one. I think with Judge- And the George

12:17

Owen. Judge Chutkin and Jack Smith,

12:19

I think you've got people there who have

12:21

the ability, assuming the Supreme Court allows it

12:23

to happen, because I'm worried about them. What

12:27

do you make of the fact that the Democrats,

12:29

by every poll I read, are, I would

12:31

just say, losing their base? I

12:33

mean, if you look at non-white, working-class

12:35

voters, there has been a 61-point shift. That's

12:39

an incredible amount from 2012. That's

12:42

in 12 years. Obama in 2012,

12:44

when you were the Attorney General, I

12:47

think won it by 67 points, that demographic.

12:51

Biden won it by 48. Now he's only

12:53

up by 6. What's

12:56

going on there? Well, I think, first

12:58

off, you're measuring March against

13:00

November. We're looking at

13:02

where people are right now. I think you'll

13:04

probably see a movement with regard to working-class

13:07

people of all races towards Biden by the

13:09

time you get to November. You're

13:11

also comparing an extremely, an

13:13

unbelievably popular African-American running for the

13:15

first time and who really galvanized

13:17

people in all strata of life. And

13:19

so I think in some ways that's not a fair

13:21

comparison. But I think we should not

13:24

be too alarmed by these March polls. We've got

13:26

to take them into consideration. But March

13:28

is a fundamentally different month than October and November.

13:30

And we'll see where these things turn out when

13:32

we get to that part of the calendar year.

13:36

Okay. But I

13:38

mean, the deal is, there's work to

13:40

be done. But I'm actually optimistic that

13:43

if we stay committed, focused, and

13:45

as the media turns its attention to

13:48

making this a binary choice between a

13:51

person who's got some age and cognitive

13:54

issues, that would be Trump, against

13:56

somebody who is actually, you know...

14:00

I think somebody who's actually a conqueror for

14:02

that, I think will be just fine. What

14:06

you said in the monologue was really good though. Trump's

14:08

popularity rating is higher now than it ever

14:11

was during his presidency. It's like,

14:13

hey America, remember? People

14:15

there saying, are you better off now than you were

14:17

four years ago? You're damn right we are. So

14:20

let's not lose sight of the chaos,

14:22

the corruption, and all the negative things

14:24

that Donald Trump meant and put a

14:26

good man back in the way. So

14:33

your confident Biden can pull this out? It's

14:36

going to be, he's going to win the popular vote

14:38

by five, six, seven million people, something like that. This

14:40

is going to be easy. But in the crazy ass system that we

14:43

have in the United States, we've got to deal with

14:45

the electoral college. And so I think that's going to

14:47

be tough. But you thought about running for a minute.

14:49

Did you not? For a minute until my family

14:51

said that I wasn't. Well,

14:56

they're here now. A few of them.

14:58

They voted against that. Well, don't say

15:00

that, because if you ever do run,

15:02

we want a strong leader. All right,

15:04

all right. I'll answer to the wife.

15:06

I'll scroll on. I didn't say the

15:08

wife. I said the family. It

15:11

was four to one against me. And

15:14

what about the Voting Rights Act? I mean, this

15:16

is something that was very key to your term

15:18

in office. What year was it that

15:20

the Supreme Court kind of gutted it? 2013,

15:23

the Shelby County case. And

15:26

if people don't remember, this is the John Roberts

15:28

Court. And they basically said that, yes,

15:30

we needed the Voting Rights Act

15:32

for a long time, but now that day is

15:34

passed and the Southern states would never act the

15:36

way they did back then. But

15:39

what was the repercussion for this, and how did they act

15:41

for real? Well, we reviewed that for us. Chief

15:44

Justice Roberts said famously, America has changed,

15:46

and therefore we don't need these components

15:48

of the Voting Rights Act, which allowed

15:51

the Justice Department to pre-clear changes, electoral

15:53

changes, in states covered by the act.

15:55

And since that time, 1,700 polling

15:58

places have closed. There's been a discussion. disproportionate

16:00

number of purges in states that were previously

16:02

covered by the Voting Rights Act and disproportionately,

16:05

of course, in communities of color. And

16:07

so we have seen voting restrictions put

16:10

in place. I think it would

16:12

be an interesting thing now to ask Chief Justice Roberts,

16:14

maybe put him on his sodium pentathol or something, you

16:16

know, truth serum. Do

16:18

you think you had it right back in 2013? Because the

16:20

reality is America,

16:22

electorally, is a fundamentally worse off place

16:24

than it was before the Shelby County

16:26

decision. Yeah, but I do remember Biden

16:29

saying that Georgia, the situation there

16:31

was Jim Crow 2.0. Yeah. And

16:33

then after that election, the polling came

16:35

out and even after African-Americans said

16:37

they had no problem voting. How do you

16:39

reconcile that? Yeah, but if you look at

16:41

voter participation rates before Shelby County and after

16:44

Shelby County, you will see that there's always

16:46

been a gap. But whites vote at a

16:48

greater rate than blacks do. But that

16:50

ratio has really increased fairly substantially since the

16:53

Shelby County case and it is a fundamental

16:55

gap now between black voter participation and white

16:57

voter participation. You know, the reality is that

16:59

black folks do everything that we have to

17:01

do, stand in line for three or four

17:04

hours in order to vote. But why should

17:06

that be the case? Why should I have

17:08

to take it? All right. In 2020 in

17:10

Atlanta, on the night of the

17:12

2020 election, after five o'clock, if you were in a

17:14

white part of Atlanta, it took you six minutes to

17:16

vote. If you were in a black part of Atlanta,

17:18

it took you 52 minutes to vote. Now, why

17:21

is that? Why should it be that way? This

17:23

is supposed to be a participatory democracy where everybody

17:25

has equal access to the polls. Nobody

17:27

can say that that is the case right

17:29

now. Nobody can. Well, that's why we're glad

17:32

you're after it. All right. I'm

17:34

doing it. I know you are. Thank you. Eric

17:36

Holder, everybody. All right. Going to say for Robert?

17:38

Thanks. All right. Thank you, folks.

17:40

Let's clear our tunnel. We

17:53

heard from the South Carolina who serves on

17:55

three committees, including the House Armed Services,

17:57

Veteran Affairs and Oversight Committee. Nancy Mays.

18:00

Back with us, brave Nancy

18:02

Mase, all

18:04

new to Democratic farmersmen who represent California's

18:07

Silicon Valley, as a member of President

18:09

Biden's national advisory board, Ro Khanna. So

18:16

I want to continue a little bit that

18:18

discussion, because we didn't really get into with

18:20

the former Attorney General why gerrymandering is so

18:22

bad. And I think the reason why it's

18:24

so bad is because it is what radicalizes

18:26

America. Very good example, I

18:28

think, maybe you can prove me wrong, but

18:30

just give me some facts. In

18:32

1999, 38% of districts were considered

18:35

swing districts. Could

18:37

go either way. Now that's only 19%. So

18:40

a four out of five, it's a

18:42

foregone conclusion. When you ran

18:44

in 2020, you won by

18:46

one point. Then they

18:49

redistrict your area, and

18:51

I think it was less

18:53

black people. And then you

18:55

won in 2022 by 14 points. Does

18:58

that explain the shift in your politics? Because you

19:01

used to be a little more to the middle,

19:03

I think. I'm still very much the same person I

19:05

was the last time I was here. The

19:07

Supreme Court in October actually

19:09

affirmed that my district, as you said correctly,

19:11

I won by one point in 2020. When

19:15

the state of South Carolina redistricted my

19:17

seat, they made it 1.36 points

19:19

better, one

19:21

point better in 2022. I won

19:23

by 14 points in 2022 because

19:25

I overwhelmingly post-Rovie Wade came out swinging

19:28

hard to fight for women after

19:30

that decision because I am in a swing district.

19:32

I am in a purple district. I outperformed. I

19:34

should have only won by two or three points

19:37

based on our own data. After

19:39

Rovie Wade, I was a D plus 10

19:41

district. But you did switch on Trump. After

19:43

January 6th, I could read you the quotes. You

19:46

were very hard on it. I was very hard. I

19:48

didn't like it. Okay. Do

19:50

you still go it? You said, how do

19:52

we hold the president accountable? We need to find a

19:54

way to hold the president accountable. His entire legacy

19:56

was wiped out yesterday. We got to start over. We

19:58

got to rebuild our nation. and rebuild our party,

20:01

that's not where you are now. Well,

20:03

we've had three years of Joe Biden. And in

20:05

fact, I had a constituent... Wow. That bad, huh?

20:07

It's been that bad. Really? But I

20:10

had a constituent... Yeah, absolutely. So I had a voter call me two

20:12

days ago... Does that matter? Oh, it's horrible.

20:14

The other morning. I just came with a

20:16

spectacular... I just marvellous and amazed. I was

20:18

just going to watch it. You don't get

20:20

any... But my district...

20:22

Most of my district is unaffiliated or independent voters.

20:24

I had an independent voter call me two mornings

20:27

ago, early in the morning, and he said, I

20:29

voted for Trump in 16, but

20:31

I did not vote for president in 20. I

20:33

didn't like the options. And then he says to

20:35

me, we can't have four more years of Joe

20:37

Biden. And I think there are a lot of

20:39

people out there that would agree, and he cited

20:42

the endless wars that are going on right now

20:44

that didn't happen under Trump. We have Russia invading

20:46

Ukraine. We have Biden giving billions of dollars to

20:48

Iran to fund terrorism around the world. All these

20:50

things. We have inflation. We have over

20:52

eight million illegal immigrants that have come across

20:54

the southern border. All these... Roe, you want to get in

20:56

on this or what? I mean, I mean, pretty

20:59

long. I'm

21:02

doing polite. I'm letting... I'm doing several... I'm

21:04

not letting... Polite, that's why you lose elections.

21:06

Well, let me... We have to do it

21:08

along. Let me... Let me say this on

21:10

the redistricting actually first. First, you know who

21:12

deserves credit for it, is actually Arnold Schwarzenegger.

21:14

Schwarzenegger did it in California, and he said

21:16

politicians should draw their own lines. Citizens should.

21:18

Both the Democrats and the Republicans opposed it.

21:20

I love Arnold. I don't know why he

21:22

would do this show. Tell him to do

21:24

the show. I told everybody I know who's

21:26

ever talked to him to do this show.

21:28

I'll text Arnold to tell him to do

21:31

the show. If you're the one who can get him here,

21:33

I'd be really grateful. You

21:35

should do this though,

21:37

because both parties opposed it, and

21:40

he got it done, and that

21:42

should be a model, frankly, around

21:45

the country in terms of citizens throwing the lines. Now,

21:47

you know, California politics aren't exactly a

21:50

panacea, so just having citizen redistricting

21:52

is not enough. It's not... Our

21:54

country suffers from something deeper, and

21:56

that is that we have stopped

21:59

listening to... each other. We've stopped

22:01

respecting difference. We're not willing to

22:03

collaborate. You think just having citizen

22:05

lines is gonna magically solve a

22:07

broken politics? It's not. Look, Nancy

22:10

and I disagree on so many

22:12

things. We've done two bills together.

22:14

People say, why are you going on

22:16

the show with Nancy Mase? She just did this thing.

22:18

We're in Congress together. What do you mean this show?

22:20

Well, get over it. He's gonna get over it. That's

22:22

what I hate about that. Half

22:26

of Congress doesn't talk to each other. They

22:29

say, well, okay, if you're someone who supports Trump,

22:31

I'm a proud supporter of President Biden. If you don't

22:33

work with someone who supports Trump, I was like 45%

22:35

of the area. I

22:37

want to give an example on his piggyback on this

22:40

because I did an IVF resolution two weeks

22:42

ago. Alabama had that ruling, didn't like it.

22:44

I want to do a resolution in vitro.

22:46

In vitro. In vitro. Supporting, condemning the Alabama

22:48

ruling, supporting access to IVF. And

22:51

I had Republicans and Democrats signed up to get on

22:53

the bill. An hour before I dropped it, Democrats were

22:55

told to get off. They couldn't get on my bill

22:57

because it was me and Republican. They want to do

22:59

their own thing. And that's just I see it on

23:01

both sides. Both sides play that game. That's not what

23:04

the American people want. They don't want that binary choice.

23:06

They want us working together. And Nancy and I have

23:08

worked together, but here is the argument

23:10

that I think President Biden

23:12

needs to make. Because I said,

23:14

look, Trump came in and he

23:17

basically said, you've hollowed out manufacturing.

23:19

Manufacturing went to China. As you

23:21

put it in your monologue. Towns,

23:23

Johnstown, Pennsylvania, Nashville, over hollowed out.

23:25

President Biden actually is bringing those

23:27

jobs back. He's actually bringing manufacturing.

23:29

He's bringing semiconductors. He's bringing new

23:31

industries. And I think instead of

23:34

insulting people who voted for Donald

23:36

Trump, why not say we

23:38

understand why you were upset?

23:40

We understand why Republicans are supporting him

23:42

all the time. I mean, and he gave us a

23:44

lot of inflation and all the spending, all those things,

23:46

too. And all the immigrants. Joe Biden brought all that back.

23:48

Were you both at the State of the Union? I was there.

23:51

OK, Biden said political violence has

23:53

no place in America, no place.

23:56

No Republican clapped. What's

23:59

going on there? War. On Iraq. And a

24:01

political violence has no place to the Murphy care clap

24:03

for that. Well I mean I was there. I will

24:05

tell you there was a lot of shouting a Her Joe

24:07

Biden shout a lot my ears for it When I left

24:09

the room. And. That

24:12

is not answering. There's no. I don't. I

24:14

don't like any political violence. In fact, we

24:16

had a violent riots in my hometown on

24:19

two years three years ago. During covering all

24:21

that happen in, nobody was ever held accountable.

24:23

It's is wrong. Nobody should be an avid.

24:25

Why couldn't you club for. I. Don't really

24:27

have no reason to play knighted States making

24:30

the most and an adjoining comments you could

24:32

possibly make. Work. Why

24:34

can't you guys get along a little but

24:36

it most with. As

24:42

a his. On

24:44

was you would applaud Ever have a republican

24:46

and said that I would. I saw guy

24:48

whereupon I can. I was at low guys

24:50

around. The Anomaly Republic when I'm at a speech

24:52

at all. But when trump wait one

24:55

in in sixteen. Half of the

24:57

democrats didn't go to his inauguration. I

24:59

said I'm going to go to be

25:01

inauguration. I wandered every one of his

25:03

readers. It's it's It's not about the person,

25:05

It's about respecting the American people. And

25:07

it's about respecting who they said Photographer,

25:09

Senator, and. Sizes

25:12

don't have a monopoly on the truth.

25:15

Let's learn to figure out where disagree

25:17

and get things done. And. I live in every

25:19

state has a union that I've been in common in Congress three

25:21

years. I go every year and I wanna I wanna hear and

25:23

I want to listen. And like your perm when you're in

25:25

like my. Job

25:28

so I'm you know, carry like.

25:32

You. Know she I you know she has yet to iran not met

25:34

her but I know is. Okay, she was the

25:36

she ran in Arizona roaches. The Republicans

25:38

is the set set of Kennedy now

25:40

right? own she said Embers very big

25:42

Trump or. The interviewer

25:44

vice President on January Six would have

25:46

you. Would you have certified the vote?

25:50

And. She said that the hypothetical which. Is

25:53

funny, right? It's a kind of important

25:56

hypothetical both. Of us certify the electoral college

25:58

or january twinkling when we look. So

26:00

have you were Vice President M S that a view

26:02

of you are the Vice President and gender six Would

26:05

you have done what Mike Pence did that made Trump's

26:07

I read certified. The electoral College in every single state and

26:09

an aisle at it now has the right thing to do

26:11

with the constitutional thing to do and I would do it

26:13

again. When. I. Was.

26:19

I was. Like

26:21

I must warn you, Donald Trump sometimes

26:23

accidently watches the show. Only

26:32

I agree. I agree with that answer.

26:35

I hope he. I hope he watches the south. Get.

26:37

Price and Schwarzenegger. Started

26:41

or I started out of Republicans.

26:43

Need more And I'm independent minded voters

26:45

to win in November. We can't just

26:48

have a binary republican democrat. We need

26:50

independent minded people. My district is forty

26:52

percent unaffiliated independent voters. and Republicans need

26:54

those people to win in November and

26:56

general election. Those are just the facts.

26:58

Okay are now let's ask row a question

27:01

of I have or Eric Holder to make

27:03

it even right. Okay as him about this

27:05

sixty one point. Shift. From.

27:08

Non white. Working. Class

27:10

Voters from Twenty twelve? What? What do

27:12

you make a that? I mean. I

27:14

agree, it's only marriage, but it's not

27:16

going to close. Sixty one points and

27:18

it's obviously going in a very different

27:20

direction. I can you be some other

27:22

stats? I mean Biden I think. Is.

27:24

At seventy six percent. Blessed.

27:27

Election likes voted for him ninety

27:29

percent. That's a fourteen point loss.

27:32

Forty. One percent say Trump's

27:34

policies. Were. More favorable

27:36

to them personally, Only eighteen percent say

27:38

that the biden. For. Biden, what

27:40

is your answer to that? Oh

27:42

No. no matter

27:45

on the economy i have a lot of

27:47

respect for eric holder the year when the

27:49

polls are going well people give you the

27:51

standard points on of the polls will get

27:53

better in a few months i rather that

27:55

we focus on having a better economic message

27:57

we need to speak to black and brown

28:00

voters the last generation We've got to think

28:02

about how they're going to come to your

28:04

face. We've got to think about what we're

28:06

doing to revitalize the economy. I don't understand

28:08

how we're losing on the economy by 12

28:10

points, and we need a better economic message

28:12

for this party. And if we're not going to

28:14

have a better economic message, we're going to lose. And

28:17

it's time that people will be plain spoken

28:19

and tell the truth instead of just sleepwalking

28:21

into a loss. I

28:25

mean, I read recently

28:28

the numbers for when Reagan

28:30

ran on Morning in America, all those

28:32

numbers were way worse than

28:34

what Biden is now. I mean, you

28:36

really tell me that if the numbers

28:39

for unemployment were what they

28:41

are now, Trump wouldn't be saying this is

28:43

the greatest unemployment. You

28:45

don't think he would be running on these numbers? And

28:48

I'll tell you if I could just say one

28:50

thing. I was having breakfast with someone today from

28:52

L.A., and he grew up in

28:54

Fort Wayne, Indiana. And he had done better

28:57

than his parents. He was back at his

28:59

50-year high school in Fort Wayne, Indiana, and

29:01

he said there was not a single person

29:03

there who had done better than their parents.

29:05

We have a challenge in this country. The

29:07

American dream has slipped the well for many

29:09

Americans. And if we just celebrate, I don't

29:11

care if you're Republican or Democrat, rah-rah, everything

29:13

is fine. We're out of touch with

29:15

people whose wages haven't gone up, whose housing costs are

29:18

too high, who feel the American dream is slipping away.

29:20

We need to talk about that and what we're going

29:22

to do. It's not morning in America in the

29:24

1980s. And if you think that,

29:26

you haven't talked to people in these communities. So

29:30

you're saying groceries are up, I

29:32

mean, you go to the grocery store, it's up 21

29:35

percent. You go to get gas in

29:37

your car, it's up 20 percent. I mean, the cost

29:39

of goods have risen so much. And we've seen issues

29:41

in the supply chain when we're talking about baby formula,

29:43

trying to feed our kids. But families are having a

29:45

hard time feeding their families right now. There's not

29:47

a lot of that because we had a pandemic

29:50

that we overreacted horribly to. We spent six trillion

29:52

dollars. I mean, you can't just write checks, but

29:54

six trillion dollars that you don't have and not

29:56

expect to. Well, the government is still doing that. Congress

29:58

is still doing that today. Look into Democrats are

30:01

spending more than we have exponentially right

30:03

now. Just to push back to one thing though, that we

30:05

had the best economic recovery for any place in the world.

30:07

Yes, we did. And that was

30:09

both. And, you know, for all the dysfunction

30:11

in Congress, when it came to a crisis

30:13

of COVID, we actually, on a bipartisan way,

30:16

delivered. Now, I hope it doesn't take a

30:18

pandemic to do things in Congress, but it

30:20

actually was a place where people should be

30:22

proud of America. We developed vaccines. We have

30:25

the best in place in an unemployment crisis.

30:28

Okay. So, great

30:31

news. The Republican National Committee has

30:33

a new chairperson. And what

30:35

a coincidence. It's amazing. It's a Trump family

30:37

member. Can you believe it? It's

30:40

Lara Trump. Yes, there she is with

30:42

the president. That's Eric's wife. And

30:45

what happened was, and Marjorie Taylor

30:47

Greene tweeted this, she said, MAGA

30:51

has taken over the party. MAGA

30:53

is now in control of the Republican Party

30:55

because, and so there's going to

30:57

be what they call a bloodbath, as I

30:59

said, at the Republican National Committee. They fired

31:01

every single person there. And

31:04

they're putting in their new MAGA people. So,

31:06

we got a hold of the job application

31:08

form because they're going to need to

31:11

restock the whole thing. Would you like to hear

31:13

what's on the job? These

31:17

are just the questions if you want to get

31:20

a job at the Republican National Committee, now that

31:22

MAGA has taken over. Do you have any experience

31:24

in overvaluing real estate? How

31:30

would you describe America's current president? A,

31:32

crooked, B, sleepy, C, Donald J. Trump.

31:40

How quickly could you forgive your boss if he shot

31:42

you in the middle of Fifth Avenue? Have

31:50

you ever been institutionalized for severe psychiatric

31:52

problems? If so, are you interested in

31:54

our referral form? Are

32:01

you able to say the sentence, an authoritarian

32:03

dictatorship may be the only way to preserve

32:05

our freedom without actually laughing? Apparently

32:10

you are. Where

32:13

do you see yourself in the next 10 Trump

32:15

terms? Fill

32:23

in the blank, Haiti is a blank hole.

32:32

Logic problem. Donald Trump is an infallible

32:34

judge of character, but his cabinet contained

32:36

people who called him a fucking

32:39

moron, idiot, an idiot surrounded by

32:41

clowns, dope, kindergartner, idiot, patient in

32:43

an adult care center, empty

32:46

vessel like an 11-year-old child, sixth-grader,

32:48

idiot, crazy, and goddamn dumbbell. What's

32:53

wrong? What's

32:59

wrong? Number

33:03

eight, which side were you rooting for in the zone

33:05

of interest? And

33:12

your thoughts on E. Jean Carroll are, A.

33:14

Everyone deserves their day in court, B. A

33:17

faulty memory at best, C. She wishes. Edgy

33:29

show, you know, I'm surprised at that. But

33:33

can I ask you about that? Because I asked

33:35

before, would you mind talking about it? Because you

33:37

were much in the news last week about this

33:39

issue, because you were on George Stephanopoulos' show, and

33:42

he was questioning about the idea that

33:44

you're supporting Trump, who was found guilty

33:46

of sexual assault by a jury

33:48

in New York for the E. Jean Carroll case. And

33:52

you were a rape victim yourself, and I

33:54

guess his implication was that being so, that

33:57

you should not support someone who is... the

34:00

conducted of this crime? Well, number one, to

34:02

set the stage a little bit, I went on to talk about

34:04

2024. When the general election, Joe

34:06

Biden versus Donald Trump, I had my 14-year-old

34:08

kid with me, my daughter with me that

34:10

day. It was work. I was there for

34:12

work. She had no choice. She had

34:14

to come with me. It was a really uncomfortable conversation afterwards with

34:16

her on the way to the airport over this. And

34:19

she knows my story. But number one, Donald

34:21

Trump wasn't convicted of sexual assault. The

34:24

83 million was a defamation suit. It was about

34:26

defamation. There was a sexual abuse claim, and she

34:29

got a little bit for that. But the vast

34:31

majority of it was for defamation, not

34:33

rape, not sexual assault. So I

34:35

think there are two types of... Is that right, Raul? That

34:37

is right. Let me just say this. That is

34:39

right. At that point... Let me say

34:41

this about what happened there, and from my perspective. And I

34:44

have a lot of respect for

34:47

Nancy Mace's courage in talking about

34:49

rape and sexual assault. And I

34:51

admire your being public about that.

34:54

I... I'm sorry. I'm

34:57

not invited. I

34:59

also think, you know, I know Nancy is

35:01

good at answering tough questions. And I also

35:03

think as George Stephanopoulos as a journalist at

35:06

a time where I believe in the First

35:08

Amendment, he should be asking everyone, and not

35:10

just her, any Republican. It's a fair question

35:13

if you're saying if there is a person

35:15

who's running for president and

35:17

they have had a... But maybe you can't end up to the

35:19

rape victim that you're going to talk to her about her own

35:21

rape when she comes on your show. And that's the first thing

35:23

you're going to ask. Like, that to me, like, they didn't do

35:25

that. There was no, hey, we're going to film this clip. And

35:27

this clip triggers me. Five years ago,

35:29

I told my story on the South Carolina State House floor.

35:32

We were doing a fetal heartbeat bill. There were

35:34

no exceptions for rape or incest. And

35:37

there were no women speaking. Rape victims

35:39

and girls who were victims of incest had no voice.

35:41

I had never told my story publicly. It took me

35:43

25 years. I go to the

35:45

wall and I tell the story for the first time. We were

35:48

the first state in the nation to have a fetal

35:50

heartbeat bill with exceptions for rape and incest.

35:52

I put them in there after very, very, very

35:56

simple times telling that story. He

36:00

takes a lot of courage, but then to

36:02

feel like he was weaponizing my own rape

36:04

for a political head job. And

36:07

it was wrong. My daughter was there. It was

36:09

awful. I felt bullied. going

36:12

to lead with it. And it was a 10-minute

36:14

interview about my own rape. It was completely, I

36:16

think, wholly inappropriate. I will answer the tough questions.

36:18

I have talked about it. But that video, that

36:20

speech I gave, gave, triggers me. I know I

36:22

gave it publicly, but it was hard. It

36:25

didn't come out of left field. There was a reason

36:27

why he asked the question. It was a public job.

36:29

It was just something with Donald Trump. And Donald Trump,

36:31

I mean, you went to the Citadel, right? Yeah.

36:33

And I want to tell you, George Stephanopoulos won the last

36:35

30 seconds at the Citadel. That place made me tough. I

36:37

will answer all the questions. I'll bet. Oh,

36:40

I'll bet. In a time where I know we

36:42

share a view of the First Amendment, I mean,

36:44

journalists are supposed to ask basic questions, and not

36:46

just of Nancy, but of any

36:49

Republican. I think here's a fair question.

36:51

Should you support someone as a president

36:53

who has a civil conviction of sexual

36:55

assault and who didn't concede the January

36:57

6 election? Every Republican should be

37:00

asked that. But that's coming by. I'm glad you're talking about

37:02

it. I see. And I think

37:04

whether or whether or whether or whether I

37:06

go on Fox, Nancy goes on MSNBC. Bill

37:08

Mark. Bill Mark. Yeah.

37:10

We have got to get in this country not only

37:13

that we can talk to each other, but that we

37:16

aren't censoring people asking tough questions. You know, being

37:18

a member of Congress is like one of

37:20

the most privileged things in human history. You're

37:23

0.0001% privileged. So

37:26

you go and you get asked a tough question. It

37:28

was more than that. You know, it was a political

37:30

hit job. It was bullying. And it was race-caming

37:33

is what it was. Asked by George Cefnoff was

37:35

a guy that covered for the Clintons for years

37:37

and called women bembo. Guys, no, thank you.

37:39

No, thank you. But you're sharing your story. And that I

37:42

want to make clear, that I do think that took a

37:44

lot of time. I appreciate you, because you know

37:46

what? You're the first, I think, Democrat member of Congress

37:48

that has said that to me. Over the

37:50

course of this week, I had a letter Republican colleagues come up to

37:52

me, and I think you're the first Democrat to do that. So I

37:54

applaud that. Yes, thank you. Yay.

37:57

Yay. We're solving it. We're

37:59

solving it. But

38:02

having gone to the Citadel, I just have to

38:05

ask this about what Trump said about women in

38:07

the military, because he mentioned the 26,000 unreported

38:10

sexual assaults in the military, only

38:12

238 convictions. And

38:14

he said, what do these geniuses

38:16

expect when they put men and

38:19

women together? Now that seems

38:21

to imply that we can't trust men

38:23

to be together with women, that we

38:25

can't expect men to control

38:27

themselves. I mean, what's your answer to that?

38:29

And before you say anything, remember, this is

38:31

for the vice presidency. You're the

38:35

one, by the way, that started

38:37

that rumor. You started that

38:39

rumor on this show a year ago. Never start rumors.

38:41

Look, I do a lot, as a rape survivor, I

38:43

actually do a lot of military sexual trauma legislation. I'm

38:46

on the VA committee, I'm on the House Armed Services

38:48

Committee with Roe. We're both on oversight together. I work

38:50

on these issues a lot. I take them very seriously,

38:52

and it's something I pride myself on and working on

38:54

with people on both sides of the aisle. Okay.

38:57

And as a USVP, we may be out of jail. I mean,

38:59

that'll be our call. You think I haven't thought of things like

39:01

that? Believe me, I have. All right. Can

39:03

we fight about something? Let's fight. Well, actually, I want to

39:05

bring up the thing that you, I think, both agree on

39:08

and both voted

39:18

together on, which is TikTok. Both

39:21

of you have to explain this to me, because I

39:23

don't understand the numbers here. Here's

39:25

what's going on. TikTok owned by China,

39:27

by dance, a Chinese company, worried about

39:30

it, poisoning our kids' minds. Okay,

39:32

we'll do the jokes in a minute. So

39:36

this has been brewing for a while. Trump brought

39:38

it up when he was president. We should make

39:40

TikTok sell to an American company or ban it.

39:42

Now the House has voted, and I think they

39:44

passed it pretty overwhelmingly, right? They

39:47

voted for that. The Commerce Committee

39:49

voted to ban or sell TikTok 50 to

39:51

nothing. 50 to nothing? I've

39:54

never heard that in America, even when we got along.

39:57

The FCC commissioner, clear and present

39:59

danger. He wants to get rid of

40:01

it. Christopher Wray, FBI director, he wants to get rid

40:03

of it. Who's against this? Who didn't

40:05

vote for the bill? You, you. Donald

40:09

Trump's against it, AOC's against it, and Marjorie Taylor

40:11

Greene's against it. I know what happened. This is

40:13

like the old... Explain

40:16

to me why the people who are lining

40:18

up against the bill and against getting, you

40:20

know, saying, no, we can keep TikTok Chinese,

40:23

what is the common ground there? Well,

40:26

the common ground is the First Amendment and free

40:28

speech. I mean, it shows how out of touch

40:30

Congress is that of all the issues

40:32

in the country, the thing we can get done

40:34

in three days is ban TikTok. That is the...

40:37

That's what we're doing? That is the... Is it

40:39

hearing borders? Yeah. You've

40:41

got 72% of Americans who say, let's

40:43

pass a data privacy law. Let's make

40:46

sure that our data doesn't go to

40:48

China. Let's make sure your data isn't

40:50

taken in an app, by the way.

40:52

The data is coming from data brokers

40:54

as well. No, we don't do that. We

40:56

do something which 31% of

40:58

Americans want, ban TikTok. Kevin, how many people

41:00

in Congress actually have even talked to someone

41:02

who's on TikTok? 170 million folks. There

41:06

are chemistry teachers on there. There are

41:08

people who are engaged in political speech.

41:10

And I am a strong believer in

41:12

the First Amendment. And it is just

41:14

out of touch, frankly, of

41:17

what the Congress has done. And you've been

41:19

a consistent First Amendment person, even

41:22

when the FBI and federal agencies were

41:24

telling social media companies to clamp down

41:26

and censor stories on Twitter,

41:28

except you were there, defending

41:30

the First Amendment. It's a First Amendment issue.

41:32

I think it's potentially a Fifth Amendment issue.

41:34

It's not the government's role to ban apps

41:36

from the app store. It's to ban websites.

41:38

It's also a Fifth Column issue. Now,

41:40

I'm not saying I'm not... I think I'm with

41:42

you guys. I'm always a free speech person. Yes.

41:45

Don't worry. I got this. All

41:48

right. But... And

41:51

most of it, you know, it's easy to do

41:53

those jokes. Because most of it is absolutely innocent.

41:55

But it's also there when they need it, not

41:57

to be. And we saw that after the...

42:00

Israeli war broke out. Because

42:02

somehow the kids all wound up on the

42:04

side of Hamas. So yes, you keep it

42:06

there and you keep it innocent. It's mostly

42:08

just dancing when you needed to change people's

42:11

minds. Don't. Kid yourself, they do

42:13

habit and they're and they're not acting in

42:15

our best interests. For. Cause

42:21

I've seen again on on some of these

42:23

sites are and it's fair but he has

42:25

sixty percent of to talk in the Us

42:27

is on by American and international interests investors

42:30

not China's Our data hadn't gotten linked to

42:32

China as I want to do with and

42:34

now accent. China and that list of and

42:36

that it was your monologue had the big issue

42:39

which I have a problem with China's they're making

42:41

all the stuff. It's not that they've got some

42:43

bite dance company on social media as why why

42:45

do we little or manufacturing to go to China

42:47

has a lot. I will reopen. Oversight where

42:50

we had a federal agency by chinese

42:52

manufactured samaras knowing they're not supposed to

42:54

that has breaking story lot they did

42:56

it anyway. I mean we shouldn't be.

42:58

We should be protecting our consumers, protecting federal

43:00

agencies. And we worked on a lot of

43:03

cyber security of bills together. I mean. I'm

43:05

so much more concerned about a I. I

43:07

mean, I heard you say this week that

43:09

using the first trillionaire. In. This country's

43:11

gonna be an Ai entrepreneur. That.

43:13

To me is scarier than any of the

43:15

secret but the idea between her eyes were

43:18

coming from a ice and by the way

43:20

the Us State Department said this week worst

43:22

case scenario, it poses an extinction level threat

43:24

to the human species. I feel like you

43:27

know we see all these glitches in it

43:29

and we just doesn't. Pauses at all. It's

43:31

like an arms race and where the guinea

43:33

pigs and shouldn't detect bro's. Have. Been

43:35

made to work out the bugs. Before.

43:38

The only. When

43:43

I. Love to

43:45

meet you on Moscow said have an Ai

43:47

regulatory agency like like Bf the I been

43:50

here. Here's the thing when when there was

43:52

electricity with that was invented no one would

43:54

have thought than one hundred years later you've

43:56

had electricity running for your house and your

43:58

five and six year old running around. Same

44:00

thing with automobiles, with airplanes. Now, I'm

44:02

glad we have regulation. We probably need

44:05

more regulations with all the planes falling

44:07

apart. We need smart regulation on AI.

44:09

And every time politicians say, I'm not

44:11

for regulation, I think about flying on

44:13

a plane and why we need regulations.

44:15

We need those regulations on AI. Hi, Matt

44:17

here. We got members of Congress that don't know how to

44:19

log into Facebook. Like, these are the

44:21

people that are going to make AI, regulate AI?

44:23

I don't think so. I think the private tech

44:25

industry should be leading the way and showing the

44:27

moral compass for this. We're not going

44:30

to fear monger. I think that there's a lot of

44:32

opportunity. I think that it could all kill us one

44:34

day. Well, there's that. Neither's that. I

44:38

mean, the way you put that

44:40

parenthetically, it's just parenthetically kill us

44:42

all one day. But

44:44

my larger point is America and Americans are

44:47

resilient. We're always one step ahead. I think that

44:49

we'll get here. Unless we're dead. I want to

44:51

be in the tech industry. Unless we're dead. I realize,

44:53

kill us. But I

44:55

think the tech industry should take the lead here and

44:57

come up with the moral compass that ethics, the rules

44:59

and how we're going to do this. It should not

45:02

be, Nancy Pelosi called it

45:04

TikTok the other day, not TikTok. I

45:06

mean, come on. Okay. But

45:08

she's right. But I represent Silicon Valley and I'd say this with

45:10

that we need more than the tech folks at the table. I

45:12

mean, we also need coverage in the town. But we already have

45:14

laws on the book. We already have laws on the book. We

45:16

already have laws on the book. I

45:20

hate the sense where we've lost

45:22

faith in American government. You know Silicon Valley

45:24

would not have. I lost all faith in American government. You know

45:26

Silicon Valley. My district. You

45:28

had ten trillion dollars of wealth.

45:32

None of it would have existed if it

45:34

weren't for John F. Kennedy who said go

45:36

to a moon and NASA buying the semiconductors

45:38

that started Silicon Valley. This country, this government

45:41

has done great things. And we

45:43

are a great country when the government works with the

45:45

private sector and when we have a country's regulations. At

45:47

this time. But we're going

45:49

to watch about now the new gender score,

45:51

and I think the political divisiveness in

45:53

this country, you see it. I mean, D.C.

45:56

is toxic. I mean the Hill

45:58

is toxic. It's accessible. And

46:00

we're not we're not doing that. That innovation is less than that.

46:02

When you say you 100 percent have lost faith in

46:04

the American. That's why I do this job. That doesn't.

46:10

When you say 100 percent lost faith, that

46:12

doesn't really mean that you think we should

46:14

have an authoritarian strongman. I'm not saying anyone

46:16

in particular. Are

46:18

you talking about Joe Biden? I'm talking about Joe

46:20

Biden. Oh Joe Biden's going to throw you strongmen.

46:22

He wants to kick his opponents off the ballot. I

46:24

mean, talk about authoritarianism. All right. I have to end

46:27

it there, but it was very enlightening. I'm glad you

46:29

guys are getting along. I'm going to do a

46:31

little bit of a little. OK.

46:38

All the people from out of town have to stop

46:40

referring to our city by any of its quaint, but

46:42

at this point, really corny nicknames.

46:46

So Bill, how's life in the city of angels? Yeah,

46:48

I wouldn't know because I don't live in a 1940s

46:50

detective novel. I

46:53

mean. The

46:59

sun goes for La La Land or a tinsel town. Please

47:01

just refer to Los Angeles the same way we all who

47:03

live here to. Tentsville. No

47:13

doctors who say a Florida man

47:15

who has tapeworm lava or larvae

47:18

in his brain from a lifetime preference for soft bacon.

47:20

Have to get a second opinion. Not

47:25

only to go into your patient, but also to Fuddruckers, home

47:27

of the erisably cool rare bacon cheeseburger. If

47:35

that's not the best burger you ever had, you need to have your head

47:37

examined. Before

47:42

you get all incensed about this African religious tradition where infants are paraded

47:45

through the streets and tossed in the air. Remember, we bring them to

47:47

a church or temple and cut off the end of their day. The

48:00

would read the African thing as a first or

48:02

may not that tossing for a baby not crying

48:04

during a flight. Another

48:14

steel monoliths has appeared in the Uk. Let's

48:16

stop pretending. it's a big mystery and we

48:18

have no idea how it got there. I'm

48:20

I have a guess. I'm going to go

48:22

with someone. put it there. And

48:26

it wasn't aliens unless we're talking about the

48:28

kind of aliens you find outside Home Depot

48:30

who like it there for five dollars an

48:32

hour than yes it with daily. I

48:40

know, in addition to the rule I lay down

48:42

a few weeks ago about how in movies you

48:44

need, you don't need to get right up on

48:46

a guy you're holding a gun on because this

48:48

always happens. It's.

48:56

Also. It's

48:59

a bad guy has you tied

49:02

up those fitness face. Yeah,

49:21

it's an awesome burned for about five seconds.

49:23

so enjoy that five seconds gazette an electric

49:25

drill comes out and he puts it in

49:27

your knee. And

49:31

finally, no role Being obsessed with your

49:33

mental health is bad for your mental

49:35

health. I'm I'm

49:37

thinking a lot lately about a puzzle

49:39

many are struggling with wire Bidens approval

49:41

rating so low when things are generally

49:43

pretty good. Now course, there are problems.

49:46

America is a big place, but wages

49:48

are rising, unemployment is negligible, the stock

49:50

market is soaring. We. Somehow brushed

49:52

off both a Trump presidency and

49:54

a pandemic. Yes, Inflation persist

49:56

for a lot of things but. You.

49:59

Know an actual. Good, nice size TV

50:01

now. It costs 60 bucks.

50:04

Who gets credit for that? We've

50:07

got next day shipping, stuffed crust

50:09

pizza, legal weed, GPS, and

50:11

porn on the phone. Cheer

50:20

the fuck up. Stop

50:31

acting like life in America in 2024 is

50:33

unbearable. Biden's

50:35

ratings are in the toilet, not because he's doing

50:37

such a bad job, but because a lot of

50:39

Americans like to live with their head in the

50:41

toilet. Let's look at the

50:43

numbers. Let's

50:45

look at the numbers. Almost a third

50:48

of American adults have reported a depression,

50:50

a depression diagnosis at some point in

50:52

their life. And while depression is

50:54

of course a very real thing, it's

50:56

also true that earlier generations never suffered

50:58

from the expectation that you're supposed to

51:00

feel good all the time. One

51:03

in eight adults are on antidepressants,

51:06

and that doesn't include the ones who steal them from

51:08

their kids. And

51:13

the kids? The newest TikTok

51:15

challenge is self-diagnosis of mental

51:17

problems, because what's more of

51:19

a hotbed of mental health than TikTok? In

51:22

2022, the CDC released the results of

51:24

a survey on teen mental health, and

51:27

over 40% said they feel persistently sad

51:29

or hopeless. And antidepressant

51:31

use among young males is rapidly

51:33

rising, unlike their dicks. Now,

51:39

without a doubt, antidepressants can be life-saving

51:41

for those who need them, but here's

51:43

the thing. About three-quarters of

51:45

Americans who are on them haven't been

51:47

diagnosed with depression at all. They

51:50

just want a magic pill. We

51:52

spend six billion dollars a year on drug ads,

51:55

all featuring someone emerging from darkness to play

51:57

with a dog. And

52:01

all with the message, you're a sad sack of

52:03

shit. Now take this. Also,

52:06

and don't get mad at me, I'm just

52:08

citing statistics, but the people who really shouldn't

52:10

be that bummed out but are acting like

52:13

it anyway, are exactly who you

52:15

think. White women. An

52:20

estimated 35% of whom are on anti-depressants, although

52:24

in their defense, have you seen the prices at

52:26

Lululemon? These

52:34

gals are so distraught, they can barely keep their appointment

52:36

with the Vietnamese girl who

52:38

does their nails. Calling

52:42

Dr. TikTok. But every

52:44

bad feeling isn't a disease, and

52:46

Americans really need to stop pathologizing

52:49

everything. No one's just sad

52:51

anymore. They're clinically depressed. They

52:53

don't merely worry. They have chronic anxiety.

52:56

Do you like things neat and organized? That's OCD.

52:59

You're bummed when it's cold out. Seasonal

53:02

depression. Hate

53:05

being alone. Separation anxiety. Bored.

53:09

That's ADHD. Shy.

53:11

Social anxiety disorder. Why? Because you don't want

53:13

to go to the office party? Nobody

53:15

does. Best

53:23

case scenario, you have too much fun and it

53:25

leads to getting fired. Are you

53:27

moody? No. You're bipolar. And

53:32

some people are bipolar. And some people are

53:35

on the spectrum. But sometimes

53:37

on the spectrum is just a whole pass

53:39

for being a jerk. I'm

53:48

clinically an asshole. Nothing I can

53:50

do. Well,

53:52

you are on the spectrum. but

54:00

so is everyone else alive. That's why they call

54:02

it a spectrum. And it's not

54:04

noble to glom onto the soft end of it.

54:07

PTSD is for

54:09

people who fought in Iraq, not for people who want

54:11

to bring their dog on a plane. There

54:19

are people in America with real problems

54:21

who deserve to feel sad, but

54:24

sometimes a bad day is just a bad day. When

54:26

you constantly reinforce this message

54:29

that no one's just a normal human with

54:31

normal struggles, but we're all permanently fucked in

54:33

the head, it becomes

54:35

a self-fulfilling prophecy. Maybe the

54:37

solution is much simpler, and you

54:39

just went a week without sleep or sunlight. Maybe

54:42

you have problems that could be solved with vegetables.

54:53

Or exercise. Studies have shown that

54:55

while antidepressants are effective in serious

54:58

cases, for most people exercise is

55:00

even more effective, because exercise helps

55:03

you get laid. Whereas

55:07

antidepressants just make you listen to

55:09

podcasts about murder. A

55:14

couple of months ago, Elmo, the

55:16

muppet from every screaming toddler's

55:18

iPad, wrote

55:23

on his Twitter account, just

55:25

checking in, how is everybody doing? And

55:27

Twitter responded like he was the suicide

55:29

hotline. Any

55:38

more questions, Elmo? Elmo, I'm going to be

55:40

real. I'm at my fucking limit. In

55:44

the grand scheme of the universe, our existence is

55:47

merely a blink, devoid of inherent meaning

55:49

or purpose. And Elmo

55:51

wrote back, I think you have it bad. Try

55:53

living your life with a guy's forearm shoved up

55:55

your ass. All right. That's

55:57

our show. I'll be at Arizona Field

55:59

Financial. Phoenix, May 4th, the Palace Theater

56:01

at Albany, May 19th, and

56:03

watch the Club Random podcast on YouTube or

56:05

listen to every Get Your Podcast. I want

56:08

to thank my guests Nancy Mase, Ro Khanna,

56:10

and Eric Holder. Now go watch Overtime on

56:12

CNN at 1130 or catch it

56:14

Sunday morning on YouTube. Thank you, ladies

56:16

and gentlemen. Watch

56:19

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56:22

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