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1:02

example that comes to mind is... Thank

1:29

you. We're

1:58

here. Thank you. Thank you very much.

2:00

Oh, I appreciate that. I hope I can live

2:02

up to it. I know why you're happy. It's spring. Spring

2:05

is sprung. That always makes people feel good. But I tell

2:07

you who's got a

2:10

tough couple of days ahead is Donald Trump. I

2:19

know you're worried about that. Well,

2:22

you know, he has a few trials going on. One

2:25

of them is in New York because he

2:27

exaggerated his net worth and

2:29

how much his property was worth. Isn't

2:32

that amazing that he did that? So

2:35

there's a bond he has to pay the fine,

2:37

$454 million. And

2:40

Trump has the weekend to come up with it. Really,

2:45

this is what's going on. He's

2:47

like Garfield now. He's a fat orange pussy who

2:49

dregs Monday. I

2:52

kid in a good

2:55

hearted manner. It's

2:57

so funny because all week long Trump's

2:59

lawyers have saying he cannot possibly come

3:01

up with this money. So

3:04

of course on Truth Social, his media

3:06

platform, he bragged today that he had

3:08

$500 million in cash.

3:13

He wants you to know he has the money. He just

3:15

doesn't think he should use it because it's not fair. But

3:20

Trump's family motto is Latin for my wallet

3:22

is in my other pants. But

3:31

I mean, this is pretty interesting stuff.

3:33

If Donald Trump, the great billionaire, the

3:35

great businessman, he could lose as a

3:37

starting next week, his businesses, his properties,

3:40

his money. Today

3:43

Melania was seen wearing a coat that said, okay,

3:45

now I do care. said,

4:00

look, take anything, just leave me my boxes

4:02

of confidential documents. That's all I

4:05

really care about. But

4:08

he keeps

4:12

floating new people for the vice presidential slot. It's

4:14

so sad we don't have a primary season,

4:16

right? But this is the, look, let's not

4:18

get into that. This is the race we have.

4:20

So we're now down to picking the

4:22

vice president. He mentioned Marco Rubio, then

4:25

he mentioned Tulsi Gabbard, then he mentioned

4:27

Tim Scott, then Nancy Mace. It's like

4:29

he's making his own March Madness bracket.

4:34

And what a great job we're vying for. You get to kiss

4:36

ass and defend the indefensible for four

4:39

years. And

4:41

at the end of it a mob tries to hang you. Great

4:43

job. It's just too

4:45

wide a wall of knowledge. Yeah, who will

4:50

really want to be in this government

4:52

we have? I

4:54

mean, it is so ridiculous. The House

4:56

voted, again, we keep doing this. The

4:58

budget to run the government so

5:00

it doesn't collapse. Okay, so

5:02

they finally did it today. Another six months. We

5:06

get to go to September. And

5:11

half the Republicans mutinied about it. You know, we're

5:13

the biggest super power in the world. I mean,

5:15

run this country like when I was broke and

5:17

I just bought enough gas to go home. Hard

5:28

right Republicans are apoporactic about this.

5:30

Marjorie Teller Greene asked

5:32

for a motion to dismiss House Speaker

5:34

Mike Johnson. He's only been in the

5:37

job four months. Even

5:40

Taylor Swift gives a guy a little more time than

5:42

that. Didn't

5:50

they just do this with Kevin McCarthy? Did

5:52

I dream? No, they did. Marjorie

5:55

Teller Greene, the last time she was satisfied by

5:57

a speaker, she was sitting on it and it

5:59

was playing Leonard's skinner. What

6:10

a great week to have Kara Swisher on the

6:12

show. She'll be out here in a minute because

6:14

so much tech news. Big antitrust suit against Apple.

6:16

Have you been following this? Oh this is very

6:18

important. See I told you. Very

6:22

important to that guy. No

6:24

it's all about Apple you know abusing their

6:26

power to have a monopoly the Android people

6:28

can send a message to easily to the

6:31

Apple people. I mean I'm not from the

6:33

generation that built its personality about what phone

6:35

you own. You

6:37

know people kids come up to me like you're still using

6:40

iPhone 11. Yeah and my vacuum

6:42

cleaners from 2019 should I drown

6:44

myself. Oh

6:56

we're getting very close to the decision that's

6:58

gonna have to be made about tik-tok. We

7:01

are looking you know China owns tik-tok and

7:03

we are threatening to ban it so the

7:05

kids who like tik-tok they're sending threatening messages

7:07

to congresspeople saying they're going to shoot

7:09

them and cut them into pieces. On the

7:14

bright side it's good to see the young people

7:16

interested in government again.

7:22

Yeah I think that

7:25

could come down this week China either sells it

7:27

to an American or we ban it. I

7:29

got a better idea how about we trade it for Boeing.

7:34

We got a great show. We have Beto

7:36

O'Rourke and Sarah Uso. The close

7:38

up to you is the host of the

7:40

podcast on the Paris Wisser and Pivot whose new

7:42

memoir is called Burn Book a tech love story.

7:44

The Paris Wisser is on the go. I'm

8:00

good. I'm not going to do anything with an iPhone 11. I'm

8:02

not going to speak to you about that. Well,

8:05

you're the one person in this country who can

8:07

say that to me. Yes, it's true. That's fair.

8:09

Because you were out ahead. I mean, this book,

8:11

you earned this book. Thank you. You

8:13

really did. Thank you. Because nobody was more out ahead on tech,

8:15

where it's going, how important it's going to be in the 21st

8:17

century. Right. Correct.

8:20

So you deserve this victory lap. Well, thank you. And it is

8:22

a fascinating book because it's sort of your personal story and

8:24

with what you're talking about, how many of the

8:27

things we're all interested about. I mean, just the

8:29

title got me. Yeah. Because tell them

8:31

what a burn... Well, it's, you know, from the

8:33

movie, from the movie Mean Girls. But people do it

8:35

in high school. You write the book of what you

8:37

really think people are like. Or a letter, right? No,

8:39

it's a burn book. It's a book. It's

8:42

like a diary. But it's for you. It's for you. Instead

8:45

of writing about you, you write about everybody else. Like,

8:47

this is what I really think about. But you never

8:49

show it to them. You never... Well,

8:51

it gets out in that movie. But

8:54

you're showing it to them. I'm showing it right now. Yeah.

9:00

So, on

9:03

all the big names, some

9:05

tech in this century, Steve Jobs and

9:07

Dorsey, you know, all of the musk,

9:09

they're all in there. Bezos,

9:12

who's going to not like this? All

9:15

of them. But they like you. No. They

9:18

respect you. They love you. They respect you.

9:21

They love you. They love you. They

9:23

love you. They respect you. No?

9:27

None of them? Some of them. Some of them. I

9:29

think they're scared a little bit, I guess.

9:31

Some of them are irritated. That's

9:34

the job of media. And, you

9:36

know, in the back of the book, instead of, you

9:38

know, you do blurbs in the back of the book,

9:40

I put all the insults they had, like, Elon, you're

9:42

an asshole. My

9:45

voice is so shrill, only dogs can hear me,

9:47

and that my heart is seething with hate. So

9:49

that's what Elon thinks of me. Which

9:53

I'm like, look in the mirror, sir. He's

10:02

a complicated guy. Oh, okay, sure, why not?

10:04

Well, I mean... How about he's just not

10:06

a complicated guy, he's just a jerk, but

10:08

go ahead. Okay, well, you know

10:11

what? Go ahead,

10:13

he makes complications. But

10:15

so are you, so are mine. Okay, well,

10:17

now you're just debated with yourself and agreed with

10:19

me. Yes, I do. Yes.

10:24

And I can easily prove he's a complicated guy,

10:26

because yesterday I saw him in the news, somebody

10:28

who was paralyzed, who was giddy

10:30

with happiness because he was being able to

10:32

play video games with his mind. That

10:35

came from Neuralink, that's Elon's company. And

10:37

so did my car. I

10:42

like Tesla Elon, I like Neuralink

10:44

Elon, I even like Hyperloop Elon.

10:48

It's Twitter slash X Elon. I agree.

10:50

But in the big scheme of things, where

10:52

do you think his legacy will be in

10:54

history? Because I've never seen anybody who has

10:56

more articles written about him every day in

10:58

the paper, because he's got his finger in

11:00

so many pies, and then he does crazy

11:03

stuff. He is, come on, spectromine. So

11:05

like, you know, he just, I

11:08

don't know why he needs to high five

11:10

these crazy people. I understand why he wanted

11:12

to like have a platform where you have

11:14

free speech, Twitter with way too in one

11:16

camp. I get it. But

11:19

like, why then embrace the worst

11:21

people on it? Kind of

11:23

say, okay, I'm going to let you talk, but I'm

11:25

not going to go, hey, that was a good one,

11:27

bro. Right. That's

11:29

where I don't get

11:32

it. You know, I

11:34

think a lot of these guys, a lot of

11:37

these guys are hugely narcissistic. When

11:39

you become the richest man in the world, everyone licks you up and

11:41

down all day. And they're violently

11:43

in agreement with what you say. And so you start

11:45

to really think of yourself as a God in a

11:48

lot of ways. And he already was tending that way

11:50

in that direction. I

11:52

think one person telling him, Ben Mezrich, who

11:54

wrote the anti-social network, a bunch of other

11:56

tech books, he said he thinks he's ready

11:58

player one in a video. Now, you know,

12:00

Elon loves video games. And if you're Ready

12:03

Player One, nobody matters but you. And

12:05

that really, that's what happens with these guys, all of

12:07

them, not just Elon. As for

12:09

the genius thing, sure, but

12:12

there's lots of geniuses. And you kind

12:14

of think more like Henry Ford, right?

12:16

You're like, what an amazing contribution. At

12:18

the same time, the anti-Semitism, you know,

12:21

he was way down that highway

12:23

and racist and everything else. So

12:25

how do you balance those things? Just because you

12:27

can land a rocket. If you

12:30

can land a rocket on a surfboard, you can

12:32

be anti-trans? I don't think so. Like, I say

12:34

things that are so despicable. I

12:37

just don't think you have to choose or give

12:39

someone an out. Okay,

12:45

so, when you

12:47

started on this path, there was a lot

12:49

of hope, I remember reading about this at

12:51

the beginning of the century, around that time,

12:53

that this industry would be different and they

12:56

would be better. They were socially conscious, they

12:58

cared about climate, they cared about poor people.

13:00

It turns out, it's almost

13:02

a worst boys club, right? I

13:04

mean, they're just as sexist, they're

13:06

just as greedy. More. More

13:09

than coal barons. Well, the first, because they kind

13:11

of cosplay this idea that they're changing the world. And

13:13

you know, you don't have an investment banker that goes,

13:15

you know what we really want to do? Bring

13:18

everyone together. They're like, I want to make that money

13:20

and take it home to my giant house in Connecticut,

13:22

which is fine. You kind of understand those people. The

13:25

first line of this book really does say it,

13:27

which is, so it was capitalism after all. And

13:30

that's what it is. And they pretended they weren't and they

13:32

wore soft vests and

13:34

they walked around. Why

13:37

did they need to be like

13:39

that? Why did they have to say they were changing the world

13:41

when in fact they just wanted to make money? And

13:43

if we understand that and not put them

13:45

in these sort of positions like they're magicians,

13:48

that's great. I just would prefer they

13:50

would stop telling me they're so fantastic. I have

13:53

this phrase that I

13:55

wish I didn't have to use so much, but I

13:57

do, which is liberals in theory. Oh,

13:59

they're not liberals. They never were. Well, they

14:01

say they are. No, they don't. They were

14:03

libertarian light. They weren't. That's

14:05

a mistake about Silicon Valley. They're tolerant

14:08

of people, but in general they're not.

14:10

They're very, I would say narcissistic is

14:12

their religion and their politics. Okay, but

14:14

didn't something like 98% of

14:17

the contributions to a political party from

14:19

Silicon Valley go to the Democrats? Not

14:21

among the top people, some of them, but not

14:23

among the group. It's San Francisco. A lot of

14:25

it is in the California area. It's a democratic

14:28

state. Right. It's not going to be

14:30

like that. That's where people live. But in general,

14:32

if you actually, everyone's like, how did they

14:34

suddenly become so right-wing with so many of

14:36

these people? There's a lot of them moving

14:38

in that direction. They were always like this

14:40

because they felt like, I remember when I

14:42

met Bill Gates, he was like, why do

14:44

I need any lobbyists in Washington? Washington's stupid.

14:47

The same thing. They know better. Right. And

14:49

I think when you get to a point where venture capitalists are

14:51

opining about what to do in Ukraine, I'd

14:53

like them to sit down because they don't

14:55

know what they're talking about just because you're

14:58

good at making money or building rockets or

15:00

cars. It doesn't mean that you know

15:02

other things. And a lot of them

15:04

are not educated in a wider way.

15:06

They don't read wildly. It's the reason

15:08

I like Steve Jobs because he read widely and he

15:10

had other things besides what he

15:12

was doing. What

15:22

about AI, though? What about it? I

15:25

mean, certainly. I mean, it's going

15:27

to kill just you, Bill. Or

15:31

it could save my life. It could. That's

15:33

why I'm intrigued. It is. It is

15:35

intriguing. It's the greatest change right now. There's

15:38

been, you know, technology has moments like the

15:40

graphical user interface, the mobile phone. We

15:42

were at a big one right now with AI. It's

15:45

essentially called strong AI. There's all kinds of

15:47

ways they referred to it. But it's going

15:49

to change everything. Right. And it seems

15:51

like we went through this with the iPhone. I

15:53

mean, I don't think people even thought the

15:55

iPhone would have the deleterious effect of his

15:57

hat on people when it came out.

16:00

I think they were kind of blinded by that. And

16:03

I think we all see it now. AI

16:07

is different. We know the potential.

16:09

I read the quotes last week from people

16:11

in our Homeland Security Department. This could be

16:13

an existential event, could wipe out humanity. I

16:15

mean, that's just the high end of what's

16:17

bad. Obviously, things not quite as

16:20

bad as that could happen. And it just

16:22

seems like we don't care, that it's just

16:24

a race to who can get to what

16:26

Google got. There's

16:29

always more than one when we start,

16:31

right? The technology and then Google became

16:33

the search engine. Facebook beat MySpace. They

16:36

look to me like these tech companies. They're

16:39

controlling everything. Well, they want to

16:41

be the Google of AI, the

16:43

one everybody uses. And so they

16:45

don't care about putting it out

16:47

before it's ready. Right. They

16:49

do that. Well, it's called beta test. Who can beta

16:52

test things? Can you imagine beta testing a car? You

16:54

can't beta. Oh, sorry. It crashed too much or whatever.

16:56

They beta test everything and we are the willing subjects.

17:00

And they make things that are both

17:02

addictive and necessary. You can't operate in

17:04

this world without technology. You can't anymore.

17:07

And with AI, there's all these astonishing

17:09

things. Gene folding, health care, cancer research,

17:11

drug discovery. It's an astonishing thing. At

17:14

the same time, killer

17:16

drones that will operate by themselves or

17:18

if someone says, solves

17:20

hunger. Do you know what AI could

17:22

do without the right guardrails? Kill a

17:24

billion people. That'll solve it. And so you

17:26

have to be able to anticipate. And the problem with the first part

17:28

of the internet, which is this book is about, was look

17:31

what we did when we had no guardrails.

17:33

It's the only industry, big

17:36

industry that has no guardrails. And they're

17:38

the richest people on earth. They're the

17:40

richest trillion dollar companies. Our government

17:42

has abrogated its power and they're doing it here

17:44

with AI. And that's, you know, I sound like

17:46

a crazy Cassandra because like, I really have hope

17:48

for this. This could really change things in

17:51

an astonishing way. It could

17:53

also go completely south if we're going to do

17:55

it the way we've done it. And

17:58

we can beta test a car. They

18:00

just used crash tests. That's right. Crash

18:03

tests. Well, we're the crash test companies of the digital age,

18:05

really. That's just, that's just... So,

18:08

I want to ask you about this case

18:12

that before the Supreme Court, Murphy versus Missouri

18:14

used to be Biden versus Missouri. It's a

18:16

free speech issue. Very interesting to

18:19

me because I was always on the page

18:21

during the pandemic that they should not be

18:23

shutting down debate about medical matters. Yes, correct.

18:25

And as a dissenter on many of these

18:27

issues and as the years roll by now,

18:29

we see that the dissenting opinions on a

18:32

lot of these things were quite the right

18:34

ones. Although

18:36

we still don't. We're not going to know perfectly, but go

18:38

ahead. Okay, but we should have been able

18:40

to argue about whether it came from a lab,

18:43

which we weren't, things like that. Natural immunity, whether

18:45

it was better to go to the beach and

18:48

get sun and fresh air, as I would have said,

18:51

as opposed to sitting home and

18:53

day drinking and putting on weight.

18:56

They never mention that obesity

18:58

was the biggest factor. I

19:00

get it. They have a lot to answer for anyway.

19:02

They do, but you're in the middle of a plague and

19:04

a debate that people don't know. Yes, so

19:07

you should be able to debate it. This is medicine. Yes,

19:09

I'm sure. The moment was not... People

19:12

make mistakes and science says it makes mistakes. Well,

19:14

this is what the lawsuit is about. Okay. Because

19:17

there were two doctors, Jay Batterchier and Martin

19:19

Koldorf. They're from Stanford and Harvard. Right. And

19:23

we were shut down, not

19:25

always fully, but there are ways to do that.

19:28

Right. And they weren't radicals.

19:31

They were saying like we're going too far

19:33

with school closures, again, I think has been

19:35

proved right. My question is always,

19:37

why are your doctors more important than my

19:39

doctors, the ones I want to listen to?

19:43

And the social media companies were in the tank

19:45

with the government. As opposed to what

19:47

you were just saying before, about you're the watchdog

19:50

and you have been. They just

19:52

did the bidding of the government. That's what the lawsuit is

19:54

about. It is about that, but it's whether

19:56

they can talk to each other reasonably and whether they

19:58

can be coerced. And I think this... before it's

20:00

going to go against it, because social media

20:02

companies also have First Amendment rights, by the

20:04

way. And so I think the

20:06

issue is, what is the government talking to these

20:09

companies about? Is it coercing them, or is it

20:11

just having reasonable discussions? If the

20:13

government knows, say, about a major threat and

20:15

it doesn't talk to these companies, we get

20:17

into all kinds of trouble. So I think

20:19

what's happened is reductiveness. Like everyone's got to

20:22

be, you were wrong, I was right, and

20:24

stuff like that. And what's happened in this

20:26

culture, and I think it's because of three

20:28

things, social media, gerrymandering, and Rupert Murdoch, I

20:30

think pretty much if I had to pick

20:32

three things. Who might

20:35

call, who might call, I know,

20:37

it's an ancient clap, right? I

20:41

call him Uncle Satan in the book, because he's a

20:43

vuncular and yet bad. But

20:46

one of the things that's happened is, social media

20:48

has caused us to, we talk about our grievances

20:50

with each other all the time, and we don't

20:52

tell stories about each other anymore. And

20:55

that's what's happened. It's reductiveness so that you don't get a

20:57

debate, and someone has to top each other and dunk each

20:59

other. And this is why I have a problem with Elon

21:01

Musk on X, because all he wants to do is a

21:04

dunk. Right? Instead of like

21:06

Mark Cuban, who both you and I know did an amazing series

21:08

on DEI, right? When

21:11

he did it, I wrote him, I go, Godspeed, you're

21:13

going over there? Okay, good luck. And he

21:16

did it and was really smart. And the

21:18

response from Elon was, you're a moron. Oh,

21:21

that's debate. Well done. The highest

21:23

level of Oxford. Yeah, I'm not defending that, and it shouldn't

21:25

be. No, I don't, but I'm saying all of us

21:27

did. All of us did. Thank you. You

21:30

can't even risk that. That's the right thing. I appreciate

21:32

it. I'll see you in a minute. All

21:34

right. Para Switzer, everybody. Thank you. Let's

21:37

hear that counter. Hi. Hello,

21:47

I'm of

22:00

the Dispatches Legal Podcasts Advisory Opinion. Sarah

22:02

Isgers over here. How are you? Good

22:05

to see you, Brian. All

22:07

right, so I want to start with what's going

22:09

on in Texas because you're from Texas too, right?

22:12

Absolutely. We're a representative. And you're

22:14

one of Texas' most famous citizens. And

22:17

I was just in Houston. I love Texas, by the way.

22:19

I really hope they don't succeed. I

22:23

mean that for the bottom of my heart. I

22:26

was just in Houston at El Paso. I was with

22:28

you at El Paso once. Remember you came to see

22:30

the show there in El Paso? Absolutely. I met you

22:32

on your last year there in early March. I was

22:35

just there, yeah. Love Texas. Wanted to stay. They

22:37

always say it's going to turn blue. I'm

22:39

going to turn blue

22:41

this year. I mean, you've tried a

22:44

couple of times. Pretty hard. OK, just let me answer

22:46

that because I missed it as a genuine question. I

22:48

don't really know the answer to this question. But

22:50

if you had won, if there were like X

22:52

more Latino voters in the state, you won them.

22:54

I don't know what by the percentage point, but

22:56

you won a majority. You would have

22:58

won that election. The Republicans are

23:01

always saying, well, the Democrats just want

23:03

open borders because they want more voters.

23:06

Is that completely wrong? It's

23:08

completely wrong. I mean, people that they're

23:10

talking about, the immigrants are coming in, by

23:13

law cannot vote. They're in

23:15

asylum application purgatory for six

23:18

years. But their kids can.

23:21

Their kids can. That's 18 years down the road.

23:23

I mean, you think the

23:25

Democratic Party is able to plan

23:27

18 years down the road on

23:30

anything? I don't buy that. But

23:32

it really is. There's

23:36

a real serious dynamic to this, and

23:38

a really dangerous one, this replacement theory

23:40

that is trafficked by those who are

23:42

talking about Democrats bringing immigrants in to

23:44

take the state or the country over

23:46

politically. Our governor traffics in that, our

23:48

lieutenant governor. And there was

23:50

a guy in 2019 who came to El

23:53

Paso, and he posted before he walked into

23:55

a Walmart, I've come to repel the Hispanic

23:57

invasion of Texas. Goes into that Walmart.

23:59

and slaughters 23 people, because

24:02

he believed what Donald Trump and Greg Abbott and

24:05

all these people were telling him. He was afraid

24:07

that he was going to lose his power and

24:09

that this invasion was really gonna take over the

24:11

state. So I would love to see my party

24:14

standing up and reminding this country who we are

24:16

in the first place. We're a country of immigrants

24:18

and asylum seekers and refugees, and that has made

24:20

us the leading superpower in the world. And we

24:22

won't be able to maintain that status without welcoming

24:24

more people in this country. Now we've got to

24:26

do it the right way. It's got to be

24:28

orderly. No one would

24:31

look at what's going on now, really, right, and say, this

24:33

is the way an immigration system should work. I don't think

24:35

we need to work on it at all. No

24:38

one has that opinion, right? We're basically funding these

24:40

cartels that used to run drugs. They don't

24:42

need to run drugs anymore. They run humans.

24:45

$10,000 a pop and you get three tries

24:47

at the border. They're running small children and

24:49

leaving them in the desert when they get

24:51

inconvenient. And then some of those children, they're

24:54

ending up in places for sex trafficking, in

24:56

child labor and agriculture. We

24:58

are funding these cartels that are then corrupting

25:01

the countries from where these people are trying

25:03

to flee from. We've set up the

25:05

worst system that we could possibly have for

25:07

immigration. It is a crisis to not

25:09

actually have a border. Why is it so

25:12

hard just to close a border? I've seen other countries

25:14

do it. I mean, you know, Hungary does it.

25:16

You may disagree or agree with whether

25:18

they should. Saudi Arabia, Canada, pretty good at

25:20

doing it. I mean, they don't have the

25:22

situation we have, but I did see that

25:24

60 Minutes episode where they're just walking through

25:26

this hole in the fence and there is

25:28

a border guard there just waving. There's a

25:30

great reason. I mean, am

25:34

I wrong to say that isn't how we should

25:36

do it? Congress. What? Congress

25:39

is the reason. We see thinking that presidents can

25:41

solve this problem on their own, that they have

25:43

some sort of magic executive order wand. They

25:45

don't. And Congress has benefited

25:47

from not solving this problem in election after election

25:49

from both parties who get to blame the other

25:51

one. Everyone gets to run on it, right?

25:54

Everyone gets to run on it. Sometimes I do think

25:56

there's a conspiracy between both parties not to blame the

25:58

other one. Yes, they like the open wound. Yet

26:00

when a given party has the White House, the

26:02

House and the Senate, they fail to act on

26:04

this. Obama did, Trump did, both

26:06

failed to do it. Ronald Reagan was the

26:09

last president to preside over anything approaching comprehensive

26:11

immigration reform. But to your

26:13

question, I don't think it's tough. And I

26:15

agree with Sarah that the current, the status

26:17

quo is only enriching the cartels and giving

26:19

them more power. It's miserable for everyone else,

26:22

including the migrants, who are dying at a

26:24

record number right now. Six years

26:26

ago, only six migrants died in the El Paso

26:28

border patrol sector. A hundred and

26:30

forty nine. These are women. These are kids.

26:33

They're drowning. They're dying of dehydration. So what's

26:35

the fix? We need more

26:37

legal pathways to come to this country.

26:39

And Sarah's 100 percent correct. Only Congress

26:41

can do that. The president has done

26:44

about almost everything that he can. This

26:46

DHS appropriations bill that passed the House

26:48

today, it now, over the course of

26:50

Biden's presidency, has doubled border patrol spending,

26:53

which is five times greater than what

26:55

it was 20 years ago. He's

26:57

added sections of wall. He's deported more people

26:59

than President Trump ever did. That

27:02

alone is not going to get it done. You need ways

27:04

for people to come here and work the nine million jobs

27:06

that they haven't filled to join family,

27:09

to flee persecution and to do it

27:11

legally. And the Democrats didn't call the...

27:17

The Democrats didn't call the

27:19

bluff of the Republicans. They did give them

27:21

a bill that actually does seal

27:24

up the border much better than it is now and

27:26

they would not vote for it. Because

27:28

Trump wants to run the problem. He doesn't

27:30

want the solution. So now your governor down

27:32

there, this is the big pissing match

27:34

going on now, he's saying if the federal government

27:36

won't do it, I will. Texas

27:39

is Senate Bill SB4, Senate Bill 4.

27:42

State and local police officers are allowed

27:44

to arrest people suspected of being in

27:46

the country illegally. Judges

27:48

to order the deportation of migrants, that's

27:50

allowed. And of course the federal

27:52

government is saying this is a job for

27:54

the federal government, always has been, and

27:57

Texas is saying, well, but you're not doing

27:59

it. If you're not doing it, shouldn't

28:01

it devolve to the states? So there was

28:03

that video that you might have seen

28:05

this week where a bunch of migrants

28:07

basically flood the National Guard that was

28:09

there and overtake them, pushing past them,

28:11

you know, people were knocked down, etc.

28:14

And when the White House press secretary was

28:16

asked about that, she said, go ask the

28:18

governor of Texas, which is a really weird

28:20

thing for the executive branch of the federal

28:22

government to say when they're arguing at the

28:24

Supreme Court that Texas isn't supposed to have

28:27

anything to do with it. Part of the

28:29

problem here is the asylum system. We have

28:31

this giant magnet. You know, after World War

28:33

II, we were very understandably and correctly

28:36

embarrassed by what we did about Jews

28:38

seeking asylum from Germany and Europe. And

28:40

so we have this asylum law where

28:42

if you get to the United States,

28:44

we are going to hear your asylum

28:46

claim. Well, unfortunately, that means there's just

28:48

a huge incentive any way you can to

28:50

get across that Rio Grande River, because then

28:52

we have to hear your asylum claim. That's

28:54

the other thing that only Congress can fix.

28:56

The president cannot fix that. And as long

28:58

as that's the rule that get here and

29:00

you can stay, as long as you say

29:02

the magic words, I have a credible fear

29:04

of returning to my country. We're not going

29:06

to fix the border. Because it's

29:09

the only way I agree with you, there are

29:12

people applying for asylum who should not.

29:15

But it's because we've capped quotas from countries.

29:18

We don't really have a guest worker program to speak

29:20

of. There are people who want

29:22

to come here to do jobs that nobody born in

29:24

this country is willing to do. Nine million of them

29:26

unfilled. And if they paid them more, they'd be willing to. It's possible. And

29:29

we could try that. But I've talked to cotton gin

29:31

owners in Texas and they say it doesn't matter what

29:33

I pay someone. No one

29:35

born in Roscoe is willing to do this.

29:38

I know your clothes are made of cotton.

29:40

We're still using the cotton gin? We're still

29:43

using cotton gin. We're still ginning cotton.

29:46

But the point is you've

29:48

got to create more pathways. And to push

29:50

back just on one thing you said about

29:53

Abbott. This guy is an agent

29:55

of chaos and confusion. The busing,

29:57

the drowning devices that he puts

30:00

in the Rio Grande River, involuntarily

30:02

activating 10,000 members of the

30:04

Guard, who have prevented Border Patrol agents who

30:06

are trained to enforce the law, to apprehend

30:08

and detain migrants, and to save the lives

30:10

of those who are drowning in the river.

30:13

So he can't have it both ways. He

30:15

can't supplant the federal government, take

30:17

over their job, and then blame Joe Biden for not

30:19

doing it. Now, where I think we may agree is

30:21

I think the president now has to step up, and

30:24

he has to resolve this chaos and confusion

30:26

and go in there and make sure the

30:28

Border Patrol agents have access to the river,

30:30

make sure that the governor's not complicating what

30:32

he's doing, follow that Supreme Court decision where

30:34

those agents can cut through the wires, they

30:36

can get to the river, and he's got

30:38

to take charge there. Because if he doesn't,

30:41

this is really going to hurt him in November.

30:43

Look, I hate political antics. I

30:45

really do. The Boston with a

30:47

political antics? But, boy, sure

30:49

makes a big difference when all of a sudden

30:51

Chicago and Boston and New York suddenly notice that we

30:53

have a migrant problem? Right.

30:56

No shit. All right. Could

30:58

I? So

31:04

when you ran against Ted Cruz, you beat him

31:06

among 18 to 29. You

31:09

got 71 percent. Now, this is

31:11

pretty obvious. Ted Cruz, come on. What

31:13

kid is going to want to vote for Ted Cruz? Look

31:15

at this guy. I know. You're

31:19

like, he looks

31:21

like the cool professor who has weed

31:23

and, you know, against Ted Cruz. But

31:26

now, I mean, Trump, what

31:28

is with this guy? Oh, he's gaining with the people

31:30

he's supposed to be losing to. Now

31:32

he is up five points among 18

31:34

to 29. He's

31:37

been, what the

31:41

heck is? Sixty-five percent of Gen Zers

31:43

say they believe Trump would shake up the

31:46

country for the better. See, this is the

31:48

problem, is that there's two kinds of voters,

31:50

voters who know things and

31:53

voters who just go by a feeling. Exactly.

32:00

vibes. So I mean, and

32:02

yes Trump, I get it, he appears robust

32:04

more than, you know, and you

32:06

know, you could just characterize him with, I've seen

32:08

just like the yellow hair and

32:10

the red, it's like he's like McDonald's red.

32:20

Kids love a brand, it's a brand, I

32:23

get it, I don't know, but why, how

32:25

do you explain this Trump up among the

32:27

18 to 29 that you did so well

32:29

with? I mean part of it is what

32:31

you're describing. It's the shock value, it's entertainment,

32:33

you're drawn to him, he's a master of

32:37

distraction and attention and you know all

32:39

of us to some degree are susceptible

32:41

to that, maybe young people more than

32:43

others. However, let me say this, the

32:45

Biden administration, more than any that I can

32:47

remember, is following the lead

32:49

of young people. You don't get the

32:52

most ambitious climate program in American history

32:54

without young people driving that. You

32:56

don't get the first success on gun violence, something

32:58

that both of us really care about in

33:01

like three decades without young people calling

33:03

attention to that. The forgiveness of, you

33:05

know, billions of dollars in student loans.

33:08

This is the agenda that young people push

33:11

that Joe Biden is following. I think it's

33:13

incumbent upon him to remind young people of

33:15

their successes that there's more to do. Immigration

33:17

is a great one. I haven't heard anyone talk

33:20

about dreamers, making sure there's a pathway

33:22

for those who are living here undocumented, contributing so

33:24

much for our country and then just reminding America

33:27

immigration is a great thing for us.

33:29

That's gonna resonate with young people who

33:31

want to see us reclaim our values

33:33

and do something that might be a

33:35

little bit politically difficult and counter to

33:37

the conventional wisdom but the president has a

33:40

chance to do that right now. These

33:48

presidents pat themselves on the back for all the things

33:50

they get done and then six months into the next

33:52

guy they've undone it all. I mean climate change is

33:54

a great example. Obama had a clean power plan. Trump

33:57

undid the clean power plan. Biden has a different clean

33:59

power plan. You can't solve climate change four years

34:01

at a time. It's not going to work. And

34:03

many people are

34:06

incredibly frustrated with

34:08

the establishment. If it were just that he was entertaining, they would have

34:10

voted for him in 2016 or 2020. They

34:13

didn't. It's this time because all of

34:15

the attacks on Trump, the bloodbath stuff,

34:18

they hear that and they see an

34:20

establishment attacking the guy who's fighting them

34:22

and they're attracted to that. It's like

34:24

rebellion, but for, you know, an authoritarian.

34:26

Okay, switching topics, I have to, this

34:29

country needs to have a debate about

34:31

Ozempic, but not now. I

34:34

bring it up because it's so

34:36

funny in the last four

34:41

or five months, I constantly are seeing old friends of

34:43

mine who were suddenly svelte in a way they never

34:45

were. You know, I've known them for years and it's

34:47

always this amazing coincidence. And it just made me think

34:49

of a bit that we've done for years here called,

34:52

I don't know it for a fact. I just know

34:54

it's true. And

34:56

so they told me to bring it up but

34:58

I don't know of Ozempic revolution. For example, I

35:00

don't know it for a fact that people who

35:02

won't shut up about Pickleball now or the same

35:05

people who 10 years ago wouldn't shut up about

35:07

CrossFit. I just know it's true. I

35:14

don't know for a fact that you can get

35:16

passengers to pay attention during the safety demonstration now

35:18

by telling them the plane was made by Boeing.

35:22

I just know it's true. I

35:28

don't know for a fact that Katie Britt's kids

35:30

pretend they're asleep when mommy comes in to say

35:32

goodnight. I

35:36

just have a feeling it's true. I

35:41

don't know for a fact that every time Travis Kelsey

35:43

fucks up around Taylor Swift, he thinks, oh man, I'm

35:45

gonna pay for that. I

35:53

don't know for a fact that Lindsey Graham is

35:56

a big fan of Major League Baseball's new see

35:58

through pants. I

36:06

don't know for a fact that in 2048 when

36:09

they make the nostalgic sitcom that takes

36:11

place in 2024 that the

36:13

asshole character will ride one of those bird

36:15

scooters. I

36:23

don't know for a fact when your doctor steps out

36:25

of the exam room so he can Google your symptoms

36:27

just like you did. I

36:34

don't know for a fact that when they announce

36:37

that your subway is delayed due to a sick

36:39

passenger by sick they mean stabbed. I

36:46

don't know for a fact that when the guy at the

36:48

repair shop shows me a broken part it didn't even come

36:50

from my car. I

36:57

don't know for a fact that Trump stopped doing

37:00

this at his rallies because I said it looked

37:02

like he was jerking off two guys at the

37:04

end. Last

37:17

week I was sitting in the exit row and you have no

37:19

idea how much people were paying attention to that safety. You're like

37:21

okay but here's how the door really works. You're

37:23

like no wait you pull it this way just like tell

37:25

me one more time. So

37:29

I have another question about the youth here because

37:31

you mentioned why we were talking about why Trump

37:35

is doing better. I would say it's because

37:37

he's a great liar and again if you're

37:39

not able to check the fact here's what

37:41

he's been saying about food. Food

37:44

that costs 40 50 60 percent more than it

37:46

did a few years ago. Well

37:49

food is up like 20 percent

37:51

since Biden became president not all his

37:53

fault but not you know Trump says

37:56

bacon up five times. Well

37:58

it's up 12 percent. This

38:00

is a big problem when you don't know

38:02

anything And

38:11

what do you make of this I have a feeling

38:13

Biden's gonna lose this election because hot dogs cost more

38:18

This is a great opportunity for

38:20

him to tell the American public

38:22

why this is happening You know the

38:24

fact that he's done better than any other

38:26

leader on the planet in reducing inflation It's

38:29

just not catching on but if he points

38:31

to the real culprits to these Grocery

38:35

store chains and these massive corporations

38:37

which the FTC just yesterday Released

38:40

a report on and said they're price gouging.

38:42

These are the Walmart's the Amazon's the Kroger's

38:45

of the world They were jacking prices in

38:47

the middle of inflation and blaming it on

38:49

the economy or you know by implication The

38:52

president he needs to go after them and

38:54

now that the FTC has made this finding

38:56

He needs to make sure that he gets

38:58

money back for American consumers So you can't

39:00

control Trump's lives or whether young people are

39:02

gonna read the facts behind that But

39:05

you can draw people's attention to the real

39:07

culprit and villain in this I don't know

39:09

make sure that they've been priced young people

39:11

the Washington Post sent reporter out to talk

39:13

to people in Wisconsin Here are some of

39:15

the quotes when Trump was president. There wasn't

39:17

inflation. We could afford food Trump

39:20

there was no inflation prices really skyrocketed since

39:22

Biden took over You see we were just

39:24

kind of lucky for 20 years and there

39:26

wasn't much inflation So maybe you've

39:29

never lived in a time when there was inflation.

39:31

So you think oh, you know Trump

39:34

no inflation Biden inflation So

39:38

I last time I was on the show it

39:40

just had a

39:44

baby six months old now I have a

39:46

three and a half year

39:48

old I

40:00

love babies. Yeah, I know. I'll

40:04

call you at 2 a.m. Yeah, please. Let

40:06

me babysit. Yeah. How

40:11

great would my three and a half year old turn out if that

40:13

was his babysitter? Babysitters were $15 an hour. Now

40:17

they're up to $30. I mean, that is

40:20

how it's actually hitting real families. It's not just bacon. And

40:22

that's what they're thinking about. And I also think there's

40:24

something to the effect of you don't have a

40:27

person that's

40:29

for limited government or limited spending anymore.

40:32

Gee, I wonder what's causing inflation. Maybe

40:34

it's pouring money into everything. You

40:36

don't want to feed the baby bacon. He'll

40:41

go broke in a minute. But can I just

40:43

read some stats? This is from

40:45

Reagan's 20... 1984. Reagan, of course,

40:47

won in 1980, and we were in terrible economic shape. And

40:53

he said he got the country back in the

40:55

right way. And with Morning in America was the slogan

40:57

in 1984. Inflation was 4.3 in 1984 when it was

40:59

morning in America. Now

41:03

it's less, 3.2. Unemployment

41:05

when it was morning was 7.5. Now

41:08

it's 3.9. The

41:10

interest rate was over 10% in the morning.

41:13

Now it's half

41:15

that, 5.3. The S&P 500 returned only 1.4% in 1984. In

41:22

2023, it returned 24%. A

41:26

little bit is our expectations are different. Is it not?

41:29

Expectations are everything. And you add to that

41:32

social media where we hear from the loudest,

41:34

angriest, most outraged voices that are telling you

41:36

who to be pissed off at and who

41:38

to blame. And you end up with this

41:40

negative polarization where you have more voters, not

41:42

that they're pro-Trump or even pro-Biden. They're

41:45

just voting because they hate the other guy. He's even told

41:47

it's the other guy's fault. That's why we

41:50

can't have nice things. Alright,

41:53

so another question for... One

41:56

more question about the youth. Because

41:58

the youth thought will be... I

42:00

mean, I got to give it to them. We made a lot

42:02

of jokes about they don't vote in 2020. They

42:05

voted 50%. That's more than

42:07

ever, up 11%. That's a huge

42:09

change in one election cycle. Okay.

42:11

There are reports that President Biden is very angry

42:13

that he doesn't get the credit he deserves, as

42:15

you were talking about. One reason is

42:18

Israel. It's a very big

42:20

dividing point in this party. It is a big

42:22

headache for your party, the Democratic Party, because they

42:24

are split down the middle. There

42:26

are people like John Fetterman who are

42:29

unapologetically supportive. I

42:31

am. You are. I'm

42:33

supportive of John Fetterman. Like, where did that guy come

42:35

from? I agree. Maybe everybody

42:37

should go crazy. Right. I

42:39

mean, over your hoodies. No.

42:43

I mean, well, the

42:45

young people have it in their heads

42:48

that the Israelis are colonizers and they

42:50

have an apartheid state and they're trying to

42:52

commit genocide because they learn these buzzwords and

42:54

again, don't really do the work. Maybe

42:57

it's because we have an anti-Semitic authoritarian country controlling

42:59

what's on their phones and all the news that

43:01

they're seeing about Israel. Whoa, wait a

43:03

second. What? TikTok.

43:05

TikTok has not been helpful. Anyway,

43:07

enter Chuck Schumer. Chuck

43:10

Schumer about 10 days ago made a big speech.

43:12

This was sort of unprecedented. Now, I like Chuck

43:14

Schumer. He's a very thoughtful guy and it was

43:16

a thoughtful speech. I want to see if

43:19

we agree with it or not. What he did was

43:21

he criticized very roundly Benjamin Netanyahu, who

43:23

has very few fans on either side

43:25

of the aisle at this point. And

43:27

he let this attack happen on October 7. That

43:29

was his main job. Israel got

43:31

complacent, the one place in the world that cannot

43:34

afford to get complacent. So he definitely should never

43:36

be prime minister again. But Chuck Schumer said, you

43:38

should go now. We should have elections. We don't

43:40

do this with our countries. Nobody tells Britain when

43:42

they should get rid of their prime minister. So

43:45

maybe he was right, maybe he was wrong. He was saying, we

43:47

love Israel. He's the only guy

43:49

who could do this. He's the top Jewish politician

43:51

ever elected in this country. If it came from

43:53

anybody else, it would not have been allowed. OK,

43:56

so what do you think about this? Should

43:59

Chuck Schumer be allowed? to do this and

44:01

is it the right advice to Israel?

44:03

Should we be giving Israel advice? So

44:06

as you mentioned, America's

44:10

the greatest friend Israel's ever had. Within

44:12

America, Chuck Schumer's probably the greatest friend

44:14

Israel's ever had. And sometimes

44:16

friends need to tell friends difficult things.

44:19

The path that you're on right now is not

44:22

going to get you to your goal, which is

44:24

greater safety and security for the state of Israel.

44:26

We all want that. We all care about that.

44:28

But this is not going to produce it. America

44:31

knows about this full well. In 20 years in

44:33

Afghanistan, our wars in Iraq, sometimes with the best

44:35

of intentions and certainly with the passion that follows

44:37

an attack on our own country, we do things

44:40

that don't end up serving our best interests.

44:42

So he's trying to deliver that message. OK,

44:44

but the alternative to that is leave Hamas

44:46

in place. No, it's not. No, it's not.

44:48

No one would argue that Hamas should be

44:50

left in place. I mean, the priority has

44:52

to be the return of every one of

44:54

those hostages. It has to be the total

44:56

defeat of Hamas. And it has to

44:58

be the safety and security of the state of Israel and

45:01

the Palestinian people. That's incredibly important. And I

45:03

think that's actually... You're asking for two things

45:05

that can't exist at the same time. Am

45:07

I wrong? This is the problem. They want

45:09

to skip to the fun part where, like, everyone's happy again.

45:12

Right. Well, guess what? I mean,

45:14

that's not going to work. And what Chuck Schumer

45:16

did was something that worked well for domestic politics.

45:18

I mean, of course, he told the White House

45:20

he was giving that speech ahead of time. He

45:22

knows what's going on with Biden's reelection campaign. Can

45:24

you imagine if Donald Trump said we needed to

45:26

have an election in Mexico because they weren't supporting

45:29

his Remain in Mexico policy? And by the way,

45:31

if they don't have an election, we may not

45:33

have as much funding for Mexico next time

45:35

around, because that's also what Chuck Schumer said.

45:37

He threatened the funding for Israel as well.

45:39

People would be up in arms. In fact,

45:41

not that far off from what Donald Trump

45:43

was impeached for the first time around, this

45:46

idea of fixing your own

45:48

domestic policy problems and political problems

45:50

by messing with some other country's

45:52

government and threatening them with funding.

45:55

I obviously, the hostages have to

45:57

come back. Hamas has to be defeated. think

46:00

we do that by asking them nicely. I mean,

46:02

that's not going to work. I'm not suggesting that.

46:04

Tell me then how we address something that

46:06

I think we all care about, which is

46:09

31,000 Palestinians have been killed. According

46:11

to Hamas. If

46:13

it's 29,000, does it make a difference? If it's 28,000, does it make a difference? Primarily,

46:17

they are women and they are

46:19

children, you know, definitionally, inherently, non-combatants,

46:22

not culpable, not guilty of this. They started a war. They

46:25

did not. They did not. Hamas did.

46:27

Their elected leaders did. Elected

46:30

since when? Hamas

46:32

has the real world. But that's the real world. The

46:34

world control over Gaza. Those

46:36

people who are being killed. They're just going to share a border with

46:38

them. Israel has pulled out of that country. They want to destroy

46:40

it. So you're saying it's okay that this is

46:42

happening. It's not okay. There's just no good choice.

46:44

That's a better choice. There's

46:47

a less bad choice. But the only, what

46:49

you're suggesting is to leave Hamas in place.

46:51

I'm not. But

46:53

then how do you do it if you don't keep, people

46:55

are going to die in a war. Are you going to

46:57

prosecute this war or you're not going

46:59

to prosecute this war? I don't understand how you can

47:02

square this circle you're asking for. There

47:04

are ways in which you can prosecute a war.

47:06

It does not have to be the complete destruction.

47:08

And you know this better than the Israeli defense

47:10

force. Of an entire country. Well, listen, it's

47:13

the Israeli Defense Force. It's the prime minister who

47:15

allowed this to happen in the first place, who

47:17

are pursuing something right now that I think is

47:19

actually going to make Israel weaker in the long

47:22

term. I don't care about the country. But I

47:24

don't think this is the right way to ensure that

47:26

there's safety and security. I'm going to have to end

47:28

this. But I'll just tell you one thing to

47:31

wrap up. Somebody I know who

47:33

I trust very much. A very good reporter was

47:35

over there in Israel very recently. And he said,

47:38

people don't like Netanyahu. They want Netanyahu to go.

47:41

But what you don't understand in America is

47:44

that the policy will continue. Netanyahu

47:46

will go, but they want this

47:48

finished. They've had ceasefire after ceasefire

47:51

after ceasefire. Israel has agreed to every single one of

47:53

them. And Hamas has attacked them and broken the ceasefire

47:55

over and over again. And the percentage of people in

47:57

this country who think they're going to be attacked by

47:59

that what Hamas did was acceptable, the percentage

48:02

of young people who think that October 7th

48:04

was acceptable is a failure on our part.

48:06

All right, time for new hold. All

48:12

right. Okay,

48:17

new, new, new sex experts need

48:19

to stop inventing fancy new theories

48:21

to explain the basics of sex.

48:24

The latest buzzwords are stimulation, communication,

48:26

and mindfulness. What

48:30

we laymen call a little higher, right there,

48:32

and stop. Uh,

48:40

who wrote the next politician who gets weepy

48:42

about how much he loves farmers? Has

48:45

to try farming. Which

48:53

has a suicide rate three and a half

48:56

times higher than everyone else. No

48:58

one loves farmers more than Willie Nelson and he'd rather

49:00

live on a bus. You

49:07

know, the woman in the news lately

49:09

who's on OnlyFans and has the genetic

49:12

abnormality of having two vaginas and

49:15

who also has two boyfriends, each

49:20

of whom is only allowed to be intimate with

49:22

one of her vaginas. Just

49:27

tell me how she does it. The

49:35

last time I had to keep track of that many pegs

49:37

and holes, I was building a bed frame from Ikea. I

49:45

have so many questions. Like do you ever shave one

49:47

and leave the other one hairy so they look like...

50:00

Tell me, who's using Dwayne Johnson's new shampoo?

50:03

What are the directions?

50:05

Rinse, lather, pretend? I

50:13

don't know whose idea it was to greenlight this product,

50:16

but they should know that if I'm going to take

50:18

hygiene tips from a baldy, I'm staying loyal to Mr.

50:20

Clean. The

50:27

general trip advisor has to admit their

50:29

entry, the 15 best things to do

50:31

in Haiti in 2024,

50:35

was probably written by a bod. Even

50:40

Sean Penn decided to vacation in Gaza this

50:42

year. Seriously,

50:44

when you click on this link, it should read, Haiti,

50:47

I think you mean Tahiti,

50:49

dumbass. And

50:57

finally, new rule, now that we're all recovered from St.

50:59

Patrick's Day, let's make it the last one. You

51:04

know, I never understood Irish pride or

51:07

any pride in anything other than

51:09

what you've actually accomplished. And as

51:11

holidays go, St. Patty's is kind

51:13

of malarkey. You don't

51:15

get presents like Christmas or candy

51:17

like Easter or joyless appointment sex

51:19

like Valentine's Day. You

51:27

don't even get a peanut special. This

51:33

is the parade, and what rites are we marching for?

51:35

The rites of drink in the day? We

51:39

still need to. We

51:45

still need to take to the streets in

51:47

a public expression of support for Irish migrants?

51:50

I think now more than ever, we need to

51:52

stop talking about the things that make Americans different

51:54

from each other and start honoring the things that

51:56

make us the same. So let

51:58

my people, the Irish leaders, the way because again

52:00

the Irish think I don't give a shit. But

52:09

I do give a shit who wins the next election. An

52:12

outdated racial pandering is

52:14

one reason Democrats lose elections. When

52:17

Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi put on Kenta

52:19

cloth, I don't think it earned

52:21

them one vote for their powerful emotional ties

52:23

to Ghana. Here

52:26

in California, we're now segregating

52:28

kidnapping. Really. California

52:31

doesn't just have Amber Alerts for

52:33

missing children. We have Ebony

52:35

Alerts for black children and Federal

52:37

Alerts for Native American kids. What

52:40

is that? We look for

52:42

them by listening on the

52:44

ground. Look,

52:51

even if you like identity politics,

52:53

this kind of thing is antiquated.

52:56

From 2010 to 2020, the

52:59

number of people identifying as multiracial in

53:01

America went up 276 percent. One

53:05

in five newlyweds now are in an interracial

53:08

marriage. And that number goes up to 100

53:10

percent in ads for Subaru. You

53:20

couldn't do a remake of Guess Who's

53:23

Coming to Dinner today because almost 100

53:25

percent of Americans approve of interracial marriage,

53:27

especially with rich in-laws. And

53:32

95 percent of white women would leave their

53:34

husbands and marry Idris Elba. Idris

53:44

Elba, who says, as humans, we

53:46

are obsessed with race, and that

53:48

obsession can really hinder people's aspirations.

53:51

Actress Raven-Simone agrees. She

53:53

told Oprah, I'm tired of being labeled.

53:56

I'm not an African American. I'm an

53:58

American. She

54:05

says, I don't know what country in Africa I'm

54:07

from. My roots are in Louisiana. And

54:12

you don't have to agree with that. But

54:14

at the point of view a lot of people

54:16

have, it should be respected. Morgan

54:18

Freeman says the way to finish off racism

54:20

is, stop talking about it. I'm

54:23

going to stop calling you a white man and

54:25

I'm going to ask you to stop calling me a

54:27

black man. There's even a movement

54:29

now to ban racial questions on the census

54:31

and many of its leaders are people of

54:34

color, like Professor Sheena Mason who says to

54:36

undo racism we have to undo our belief

54:38

in race. The liberal

54:40

group moveon.org formed in 1998 to urge Republicans to

54:45

move on from the Clinton impeachment.

54:47

Today's Democrats should move on from

54:50

identity politics.

54:52

It's not

54:55

working. It's

54:57

not working for them or for us.

54:59

Democrats are hemorrhaging the very voters they

55:02

think they're pandering to. The

55:04

Financial Times writes, Democrats are

55:06

going backwards faster with voters

55:08

of color than any other

55:10

demographic and suggests the reason

55:12

is that a less racially

55:14

divided America is an America

55:16

where people vote more based on their beliefs

55:18

than their identity. Exactly.

55:21

Far left liberals are living in

55:23

an old paradigm. Americans

55:25

don't fit into neat little boxes anymore. Who

55:28

has the number one country song right now? Beyonce.

55:37

Lil Nas X won a country music award

55:39

and he's black and gay. And

55:46

a brand ambassador for the

55:48

waspiest person in America, Coach. The

55:53

biggest new star in country is Jelly

55:55

Roll who was a drug dealer, then

55:58

a prisoner, then a rapper. and

56:00

then a face-tatted country music star, not

56:03

to mention a giant middle finger to the

56:05

idea of staying in your own lane. No.

56:09

In America now, you're allowed to be many

56:12

things all at once, and that's a good

56:14

thing, even when it's really stupid. LAUGHTER

56:23

Look, we're all jelly roll

56:26

now. LAUGHTER We're

56:28

sloppy, complicated and contradictory. Two-thirds

56:31

of Republican voters support weed

56:33

legalization. And forty... Yeah. And

56:40

41% of Democrats own or live with someone

56:43

who owns a gun. Ms.

56:45

Marvel is Pakistani, and the winner of

56:47

the last two NBA dunk contests is

56:49

white. LAUGHTER The

56:59

new Captain America is black, and Spider-Man

57:01

is black and Puerto Rican, just

57:03

like A.I. George Washington. LAUGHTER Latinos

57:11

make up half of the Border Patrol,

57:13

and the name of the coolest black

57:15

dude on the planet is Lenny Kravitz.

57:18

LAUGHTER LAUGHTER

57:24

Ru... RuPaul has

57:26

a ranch in Wyoming that does

57:28

fracking. LAUGHTER

57:31

And has a fortified compound with a bunker

57:33

to die for. LAUGHTER And...

57:43

Somehow the leader of the Village People was

57:45

straight. LAUGHTER He

57:48

just went to the YMCA to work out. LAUGHTER

57:56

And... the leader of the

57:58

Proud Boys. isn't an old

58:00

white guy, he's Enrique Tarrio, an Afro-Cuban.

58:04

He burns crosses on his own lawn. Kaitlyn

58:13

Jenner is a pro-Trump trans woman

58:15

who supports a ban on trans

58:17

athletes competing in women's sports. And

58:20

there's even an LGBTQ organization called

58:22

Gays for Trump. And why wouldn't

58:24

there be Gays Love Drag Queen?

58:38

Our black president was half white

58:41

and our black vice president is half

58:43

Asian. And Tiger Woods is, we

58:45

don't even have the time. My

58:49

point is, look,

58:55

you're still building your politics around

58:57

slicing and dicing people into these

59:00

fixed categories. Democrats need

59:02

to get the memo that you can't

59:04

win elections anymore by automatically assuming you're

59:06

going to get every voter who's not

59:08

these guys. The

59:16

more you obsess over identity, the more

59:18

you ignore the bread and butter issues

59:21

that win and lose elections, the real

59:23

issue is class, not race. And the

59:25

real gap is the diploma divide and

59:27

the real future of the party. And

59:29

maybe democracy depends on Democrats figuring

59:32

that out. OK, thank you everybody. You were

59:34

great. The

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