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1:03

to an HBO podcast from the HBO

1:05

Late Night Series, Real Time with Bill

1:07

Mau. Hi,

1:27

how you doing? Hi

1:42

down there. How are you? Thank

1:53

you very

1:57

much. I appreciate it. Okay

2:07

Thank you very much, oh I know I

2:10

know exciting it's very well, it's Mother's

2:12

Day Sunday, isn't that? Yeah,

2:17

do the right thing pick up the phone and call

2:19

your mom or if you're Gen Z just go upstairs

2:21

I Kid

2:24

the kids they love it. I'm telling you Yeah,

2:27

mother's a little different in Texas this year. It's

2:30

called if you don't go through there. You'll be

2:32

in jail day And

2:36

Kristi Noem her kids got her a lot

2:40

What they were everybody's health risk mother they got

2:42

her a lovely gift From

2:46

a shoe store where her favorite brand hushpuppies

2:51

Oh Let's

2:59

get to what you came here to hear about Storm

3:05

Stormy Daniels, this is the week in the Trump

3:07

trial. We finally heard from Stormy Daniels Trump posted

3:09

the whole world is watching I

3:15

hate to tell you Don not even your family

3:17

is watching But Stormy

3:25

had a lot to get off her chest. I

3:27

mean she No,

3:30

there he is we heard all

3:32

about her background she grew up in Louisiana. She started

3:34

dancing at the strip clubs at 18 moved

3:38

into adult films at 23 what

3:40

in Louisiana they called the career fast

3:42

track I Can't

3:46

believe the I love it again But

3:49

then we got to you know we had to

3:51

hear about the actual sex with Donald Trump And

3:54

she said well it was not exactly

3:56

consensual it was Unwanted, but

3:58

she did not resist what

4:01

most women call married sex. Now

4:12

of course the looming question is will

4:14

Trump take the stand and we know for sure

4:16

he will not because he said he would. That's

4:19

how we know for sure he will

4:22

not. But come on, Trump

4:24

take the stand, he put his hand on the Bible,

4:26

he sizzled like a fajita. Now

4:31

because the details from Stormy were

4:34

so salacious, I mean even the judge had to say

4:41

to her, honey TMI, you know, I

4:43

mean, I was kid

4:45

watching her. But

4:48

now Trump's team is pushing for a mistrial. Oh

4:50

and by the way mistrial is also

4:52

Trump's drag name. Oh

4:58

look, there's

5:01

mistrial. But

5:05

you know Trump has been cited ten times for

5:08

contempt of court because

5:10

he can't keep his mouth shut. Anybody else

5:12

who ten times they would put you in

5:14

jail. And I think he

5:16

wants to go to jail because it would make him a

5:18

martyr. He's

5:20

practically begging the judge to put him

5:23

in jail. Here's a switch, lock me

5:25

up. I

5:31

love this. Over

5:35

on Fox News, Jesse Waters, have you seen

5:37

this guy? Interesting guy. I

5:41

keep finding him over there. He said

5:43

if Trump does go to jail he's going to

5:45

work out a lot and he'll come out ripped.

5:49

You're right, I could just stop

5:51

with that. But no,

5:53

Jesse Waters said he's going to come out ripped

5:55

with a jail bod. Oh

6:00

gosh, Fox Election coverage, your number one

6:02

source for gay fan fiction. Here's

6:13

a development in the presidential race I

6:15

didn't see forthcoming. Bobby

6:19

Kennedy. Right.

6:23

So this revealed some medical news this week. He

6:25

said he's fine to run, but

6:27

full disclosure, a worm did eat his brain. I'm

6:30

going to make another.

6:34

Um, no. I

6:37

mean, not recent. This is like 15 years ago. And the worm is dead.

6:41

The worm is dead, ladies and gentlemen. No

6:43

worries about the worm. I

6:47

think this says everything about the presidential race. The

6:50

70-year-old man with a worm-eaten brain

6:52

is the youth candidate. And

7:01

Kristy Noem now says we got to shoot him

7:03

because he has worms. All right. We got a

7:05

good show. We have

7:07

Frank Bruni and Douglas Murray are here. Well,

7:10

first up, he's a contributing writer at

7:13

the Atlantic, author of the best-seller Fast

7:15

Food Nation and producer of the documentary

7:17

Food, Inc. 2, which is available to

7:19

stream now. Eric Schwasser. Eric. Hello,

7:23

sir. How are you? I'm

7:26

very excited about the television. How

7:31

are you? Oh, yeah? Well,

7:33

I want to ask you about, I wanted to

7:35

have you here, basically, because we have a presidential

7:37

election, which seems to be a lot about eggs.

7:42

This seems to be what the whole thing is turning on

7:44

people. Are you up to the... Eggs and worms. Well, I

7:48

was going to ask you about that. Yeah. Well,

7:50

let's go to that first, because it is on my mind. Not in

7:52

my mind, I hope. But,

7:56

I mean, the bird flu is now in

7:58

the milk. How

8:00

do you get a worm in your brain? Let's just

8:02

go right there. It's your

8:05

food, right? You know, you have to ask Bobby. I

8:07

mean, I'm sorry that you couldn't talk

8:09

to him about this when he was on your show,

8:12

but maybe some bad

8:14

sushi, maybe uncooked pork, but. It is food.

8:16

Of all the. Right, it is food, that's

8:18

how you do it. Yeah, but of all

8:21

the food-borne problems we've got in the United

8:23

States, worm in the brain is not

8:25

in the top 5,000. Right. We

8:29

have avian influenza being spread

8:32

by cows. And scientists

8:34

had no idea until a

8:37

few weeks ago that this

8:39

influenza could even be in cows at

8:41

all. How do they get from the

8:43

birds to the cows? Well, that's a

8:46

very good question. There are wild birds

8:48

that overfly dairies. There's

8:51

all this intermixture of viruses that's going

8:54

on. And what's very concerning about

8:56

it is right now, the

8:58

federal government is not allowed to go into

9:00

these mega dairies that have 10,000, 20,000, 30,000

9:04

cows and test them for

9:07

avian influenza. The federal government can't

9:09

go onto these mega dairies and

9:11

test the workers, many of

9:13

whom are undocumented and quite fearful of

9:16

if they test positive, what's going to happen to them. You

9:19

have big ag and the big

9:21

dairy companies preventing the

9:23

CDC from investigating what

9:26

could be a life-threatening illness eventually to

9:28

people. And it's a perfect example

9:31

of how the public health is being

9:33

threatened by private interests. Yeah,

9:36

I mean of all the industries that own

9:38

the government, I have to say,

9:40

pharmaceutical is very high up, but nobody higher

9:42

than the food. Well, the food companies spend

9:44

more on lobbying than the defense industry. Right.

9:47

Yeah, and I feel like the big

9:49

picture story from your book, your movie,

9:52

is that this system really works for nobody. It's

9:54

not good for the land. Right. It's

9:57

certainly not good for the animals. Right. It's

9:59

not good for the workers. workers who

10:01

work in the fact, even in fast food. And

10:03

the farm workers. And it's not good for the

10:06

consumer. It's not good for

10:08

the person who eats this food. It's good for

10:10

a handful of enormous

10:12

corporations that have basically taken over

10:14

our food supply in the last

10:16

40 years. That sounds crazy.

10:19

That sounds conspiratorial. But

10:21

when you go into a supermarket and you

10:24

see thousands of different products, they're

10:26

all being made by three or four different

10:28

companies. And they hide behind

10:30

these different brands. I mean, I

10:33

just found out from this book that

10:35

I read recently called Barons by Austin

10:37

Freerich, a great book, that

10:39

the biggest seller of coffee in

10:42

the United States is a German company,

10:44

not Starbucks, but they sell it

10:46

under all these different brands. So you think

10:49

that there's choice. But it's really

10:51

an illusion of choice. And

10:54

I feel like the problem at bottom is

10:56

that food is too delicious. That's

10:59

why people don't care, is

11:01

that we're seduced by the food.

11:03

The Trojan horse is in our stomach. So

11:06

I mean, we have these. I mean, you mentioned

11:08

it. Cigarettes are great too, by the way. I

11:10

used to smoke. I mean, I did this. I

11:13

love them. But these

11:16

food companies are carefully

11:18

formulated, formulating these ultra

11:20

processed foods so that

11:22

they taste really good and you want to

11:24

eat them again and again and again. OK.

11:28

I just came across recently from reading

11:30

you ultra. I've heard processed foods. I've

11:33

never heard ultra processed. Is that something new or

11:35

is it just the word we hadn't heard before

11:37

and how is it different than just processed? It

11:39

is new. So a processed food would

11:42

be something like canned

11:44

corn. You know, they cook

11:46

the corn, they add some salt and some water.

11:48

It's in the can. You open it up, you

11:50

eat it. That's just fine. And

11:53

ultra processed. That's fine? Yeah. I

11:56

mean, you can always use vegetables, canned vegetables as long as

11:58

they don't have all kinds of additives. That's

12:00

healthy. I disagree vehemently.

12:04

Vegetables have to be eaten fresh, or it's just

12:06

shit, and corn is shit to begin with. No,

12:09

but ideally, yes, but in terms of harming your

12:11

health, it's not going to hurt you. What's going

12:13

to hurt you? If you look

12:15

at the label, and there are all

12:17

these chemical names that you would never have

12:20

in your kitchen, that's an ultra-processed

12:22

food. And what they're doing is

12:24

they're creating flavor additives at these factories,

12:26

mainly in New Jersey, that they...

12:29

Hey. Hey. No

12:32

offense. There are some wonderful things that

12:34

have come out of that state, but flavor additives may

12:36

not be it. Trust me, there are worse smells than

12:38

the food factory. I'm

12:41

a native. I can say that. And

12:46

in New Jersey, you can tell where

12:48

you are on the New Jersey Turnpike

12:50

by what it smells like. Anyway, flavor

12:54

additives, emulsifiers, all these

12:56

artificial sweeteners that human

12:59

beings have never consumed

13:01

before. So we're basically guinea pigs

13:03

for these chemical additives, and who

13:05

knows what they're doing to our

13:07

body, but now, increasingly, people

13:10

are concerned about all kinds of bad health

13:12

attacks. Well, they're giving it cancer. Obesity.

13:15

Well, yes. And maybe all

13:17

kinds of neurological problems, too. Right. Lots

13:19

of problems. But I think there's a

13:21

direct link between that, the prevalence of

13:23

cancer and the shit we eat. And

13:25

the problem is, when you eat these

13:27

foods, I think, is that you're

13:29

not getting nutrients. You're getting calories.

13:32

So your body still wants more food,

13:34

because it wants nutrients. It wants the good

13:36

stuff. Yeah. So you keep eating. You

13:39

get fat. And

13:41

here's where Ozimpic comes in, which

13:43

I know is the wonder drug, and we all love it. I don't see

13:46

it that way. It's an

13:48

enabler. It's an enabler to

13:50

keep eating shitty food. It's this miracle

13:52

where you can keep... Or maybe

13:54

you don't eat as much, but you don't have to improve the diet.

13:56

Yeah. So I don't think it's

13:59

going to make us healthier in the future. It might

14:01

make you thinner. I don't think you're still not getting

14:03

the nutrients that you should.

14:05

Well, you know, we keep on

14:07

creating problems with technology and

14:10

then looking for a new technology to solve them. So

14:13

this ultra-processed food is absolutely

14:15

linked to obesity, so

14:17

people become obese, and then the

14:19

pharmaceutical companies come up with a drug to

14:22

help with obesity. Now, I'm not an expert

14:24

on ozimpic, but I think

14:26

that for people who are severely obese already,

14:29

what's the choice? Gastric band surgery

14:31

or terrible health problems or

14:34

taking this drug. We don't know what the

14:36

long-term implications of being on this drug is

14:38

going to be, but the long-term

14:40

implications of being obese are really

14:42

bad. The people who probably shouldn't

14:44

be injecting this drug are

14:46

people who are maybe a little

14:49

too vain and are probably already slender

14:51

and want to be even more slender. But

14:53

for people who are really unhealthy because of

14:55

their weight, it may be a

14:58

good thing. But what we need to do

15:00

is prevent children from becoming obese.

15:02

And that means in schools, we

15:04

need to be serving real foods,

15:06

not these ultra-processed foods. Right now,

15:08

in the American diet, the typical

15:10

American child is getting 60% to

15:13

70% of their calories from

15:17

ultra-processed food. And that's just a recipe

15:19

for disaster. And also, there's no variety.

15:22

You know, our diet

15:24

needs variety. You know,

15:26

when we were nomadic, we had a great

15:29

variety. This is

15:31

in that great book, Sapiens. He makes

15:33

that great point that once we settled

15:35

down in factory, well, not factory-farmed, but

15:37

farmed originally and then factory-farmed. We'd like

15:39

three things. We'd cows, pigs,

15:42

and chickens. And various sick of

15:44

chickens. Right. And you know. Poor

15:47

chickens. You get them at breakfast. You get them at dinner.

15:50

I mean, that's not good for

15:52

the body. It's not good for the body. And

15:54

as the co-producer of this film and my friend

15:56

Michael Pollan put it, we

15:58

should be eating real food. Not

16:00

so much, mainly plants. And

16:03

the latest science is that you should be having 30

16:06

different types of plant in one week,

16:09

because it's so much better to get

16:11

your vitamins from real foods than to

16:13

get them from supplements or additives,

16:15

etc. So,

16:24

I remember at the

16:26

very beginning of the COVID epidemic four years

16:28

ago, the very first editorial I

16:30

did here, well, I don't think it was here, it

16:32

was in my backyard. That's

16:34

right, because we were in a home. But

16:37

it was all about factory farming. It was about,

16:39

look, because we thought at the time it came

16:41

from the Wuhan wet market, and maybe it did.

16:43

We don't know. It either came from the lab

16:46

or the market. It shouldn't be a political issue,

16:48

a scientific issue. We still don't know. But

16:50

certainly that didn't help. And

16:53

my point was, as long as you keep

16:55

torturing animals, we are going to be the

16:57

ones to suffer, even if you don't

16:59

have compassion for animals. You're totally right.

17:02

Okay, so what's the future here?

17:04

Because I worry that the next

17:06

one is coming, or it's worse.

17:08

The next one may be right

17:11

now percolating in Texas, where

17:14

this avian influenza was discovered in cows

17:16

accidentally by a veterinarian. And

17:19

you should look up the secretary of

17:22

agriculture in Texas, who's this far right

17:24

wing conservative. I don't

17:26

mind that he's conservative, conspiracy theorist

17:29

who is basically blocking and trying

17:31

to block the CDC from investigating

17:33

this epidemic. Factory

17:35

farms are a crime against

17:37

nature. And I'm not

17:39

a vegan. I'm not a vegetarian. These

17:42

are sentient creatures that

17:44

we're treating like industrial

17:46

commodities. And

17:48

mother nature is going to get back at

17:50

us first. Hi,

18:00

guys. How are you, sir? All

18:02

right. He's

18:07

a columnist

18:09

for the New York Post and best-selling author of

18:11

the book, The War on the West. Douglas

18:13

Murray is back with us. How you doing? And

18:17

he's a conflicting writer at the New York

18:19

Times and author of the bestseller, The Age

18:21

of Grief and Frank Bruni, our returning champion.

18:26

Okay. So

18:28

let's start off talking about Israel and Gaza because

18:30

we finally have someone here on the show who

18:32

was there. That's not something you find a lot

18:34

in the media these days. It's very hard to

18:36

get into Gaza, very hard to know what's

18:38

going on there. So I

18:40

just want to ask you before we get to the politics of

18:43

it all, because there's a lot of that this week, what

18:46

does it look like there? Are people starving?

18:49

And if they are, whose fault is that? I've

18:53

been in Gaza for the last six months since the

18:55

war began. I

18:57

can't speak to whether anyone is starving. It's

19:02

a bad situation in Gaza because some has

19:04

started a war. And

19:06

Israel is stuck in this very,

19:08

very strange position of having

19:11

to supply food to the

19:14

area controlled by its enemy. And are

19:16

they? Yes, they are. I mean,

19:18

there's food trucks going through all the time. I

19:21

mean, of course the situation is terrible because

19:24

the situation could end at any point

19:26

if Hamas did what they've been asked

19:28

to do repeatedly for six months, which

19:30

is to give back the hostages. Now,

19:39

my view is that there's, and I've seen

19:42

the conflict up close, and I

19:44

still believe that, I mean, first of all, you

19:46

can't just put out 80 percent of a fire.

19:48

You have to put out the whole thing. You

19:50

can't destroy 80 percent of Hamas. You

19:52

can't not get the leader who masterminded

19:54

the servant, Sinoir. And that's all

19:56

in raffle. And the second thing is, you

19:59

know, I don't think there's any... law of war that says you

20:01

can start a war and then when you begin to

20:03

lose it you say let's pretend we didn't start it.

20:06

But that is always what Israel faces. Sure.

20:09

I mean it's very strange, a year before

20:11

I was in Ukraine, I was with the

20:13

Ukrainian armed forces when they were retaking land

20:15

from the Russians and nobody was saying, oh

20:18

hold on, don't win too much.

20:21

Everyone was egging them on. Every

20:23

Western leader gets a shot of testosterone

20:25

whenever they talk about the Ukrainian armed

20:27

forces and yet the Israelis

20:30

never allowed to win. Yeah. Hold

20:33

on. I

20:39

will attribute that to. Why

20:43

is that anti-Semitism would you say? Why

20:47

they have a set

20:49

of rules for them. I mean they truly are the chosen

20:51

people. They're chosen to not

20:54

win the war, I agree. And

20:56

I mean for

20:59

some reason I think anti-Semitism is one of

21:01

the reasons whenever Israel

21:03

is involved in a conflict the whole world

21:05

goes bananas and you can't even

21:07

have a Eurovision song contest without it becoming

21:09

an Israel-Gaza thing. It's

21:12

crazy. Nothing, everyone gets obsessed with this

21:14

conflict and I think one reason is by the

21:16

way is because a lot of people, Democrats and

21:18

Republicans and people of all stripes have said for

21:20

a generation until the Palestinian-Israeli issue

21:23

is solved there won't be peace in the Middle

21:25

East. As if you solve

21:27

the Palestinian-Israeli issue and then the economy

21:29

of Yemen starts to boom. And

21:32

then the Iranian mullahs give women rights

21:34

and the Saudis become really keen on

21:36

the gays. No. It's

21:41

an issue for sure. So Biden says he's

21:43

going to stop giving armaments now

21:46

to Israel. What do you think about that?

21:48

Is that appropriate? I

21:50

don't think it's going to please anybody, do you? No,

21:53

of course not. I mean he's obviously trying

21:55

to, you know, he believes famously the two-state

21:57

solution which is Minnesota and Michigan. And

22:06

he's trying

22:08

to please a few hundred thousand people in America. I

22:10

don't think he's going to please anyone, but the fact

22:12

that he gave a speech on Tuesday saying that he

22:14

would always defend the right of the Jewish people to

22:16

defend themselves and later that day stops

22:19

arms shipments to Israel suggests

22:21

to me that this is

22:23

a problem. You can't, it's devastating if

22:26

the end of this conflict comes about in

22:28

another stalemate. If there's a stalemate at the

22:30

end of this, Hamas is still in control

22:32

in the Gaza, the war will happen again

22:35

in two years' time and again two years

22:37

after that, and on and on

22:39

for the rest of our lives. I don't

22:47

disagree with any of that, but you're asking about the

22:49

ire at Israel and the criticism of Israel. There's

22:52

another thing going on, which is right now there's

22:54

this paradigm that people like to apply to every

22:56

situation. If you have more power, you're probably

22:59

in the wrong, and if you have less, you're probably in

23:01

the right. If you have more affluence, you're

23:03

probably in the wrong, and if you have less, you're probably in

23:05

the right. There are situations

23:07

to which that paradigm applies,

23:10

but the problem is we

23:12

apply it indiscriminately, wantonly, regardless

23:14

of the circumstances. And what

23:16

has been so strange to me about

23:18

all of this is almost so October

23:20

7th happens, from October 8th forward, people

23:23

are blaming Israel. There

23:25

was a ceasefire in place. We're

23:27

looking for one now, there was one in place. Hamas

23:30

crossed the border, invaded, and

23:32

the savagery, the brutality was

23:34

incredible. We have to have

23:37

a conversation now about the magnitude of

23:39

the retaliation, about how many civilian casualties

23:41

there are, about whether this is indiscriminate,

23:43

but let us not forget how this

23:45

began. And so much of the conversation

23:47

seems to wipe October 7th off

23:50

the plate. Absolutely. I think, absolutely.

23:52

I think there will be more. I mean, you know, remember... About

24:00

ten years ago, Boko Haram stole

24:02

300 school children in Nigeria.

24:05

Bring back our girls. Everyone,

24:07

bring back our girls. Everywhere. Where

24:09

has been the celebrity response,

24:11

the Hollywood response, the decent

24:14

people response, the any

24:17

reasonable person response of bring back

24:19

the Jewish children? Hold it!

24:30

Well, it's not a Columbia. No.

24:35

Here's a bulletin from academia. Yes, Columbia

24:38

in New York City announced Monday they

24:40

are canceling their graduation. USC

24:42

also canceled commencement here in Los

24:44

Angeles. Emory University in Atlanta changing

24:46

the location of its ceremony. I

24:49

don't know. I guess it's that

24:51

dangerous. I mean, what

24:53

can I tell you? These kids are

24:55

such drama queens. I mean, the student

24:58

editors at the Columbia Law Review, they

25:00

said that they were the ones who

25:02

agitated for canceling the finals. They said

25:04

because the violence of the police clearing,

25:06

it wasn't violent,

25:10

left them irrevocably shaken.

25:14

Even if you were this fragile, would you say

25:16

it out loud? I mean, you know, I

25:18

would. Today

25:26

I would because we live in a culture

25:28

where if you can portray yourself as the

25:30

victim and as the person has been taken

25:32

advantage of it, it somehow has cultural and

25:34

political currency. So they're just doing what they

25:36

see politicians do every day. But it's not

25:41

just the

25:45

fragility, it's the narcissism. I

25:47

mean, who the hell is so badly brought

25:49

up that they honestly believe that if they

25:51

holler on a corner

25:53

of a campus in America, the war cabinet in

25:55

Israel is going to stop? Like Maybe

25:58

Benjamin Netanyahu, whatever you think of it. Does

26:00

not take his lead. From. A nineteen

26:02

year old student whose parents of remortgage the

26:04

house in order to send them to college

26:06

to become stupid. Fish

26:10

as a lot.

26:15

Zola he he says he's a little that

26:17

are thinking tactically, they like to holler rights.

26:19

This is a moment where everyone likes to

26:21

holler and the message that people get from

26:24

the way our congress space look at them

26:26

as the day who shout the loudest and

26:28

use the most hyperbolic language and are the

26:30

most provocative when the news cycle. Sale.

26:33

On March retailer green. If. If

26:35

I had a source is

26:37

no. Is

26:40

no bigger one a little bitch. The new

26:42

know that there was no I'm aware that

26:44

I said i'm a million times and I.

26:48

Saw it as. A

26:50

whiny little that said ever was she's of

26:52

emblem of our time know my of my

26:54

trump asked us who are. Married

26:58

it's It's a moot. We shouldn't overestimate the

27:00

power of politicians. I don't think the average

27:02

student looks to Congress to behavior, do they.

27:04

I think they get permission. I don't think

27:07

they look and say that's what I want

27:09

to be like, but I think a kind

27:11

of culture is set. A kind of tone

27:13

is sets in which confrontation is confused with

27:16

conviction, in which being provocative is confused with

27:18

being bold and brave. I think that there

27:20

is a culture that our politicians absolutely feed

27:23

for women. Only way to fly. Fish

27:29

were making this arbor. This isn't really

27:31

prevalent, but it really isn't. I thought

27:33

of it because. I've been reading. your book

27:35

in your book is about grievance. The age of

27:38

grievance. Okay, this is a twenty year old use.

27:40

you're a student. When.

27:42

You are a part of any oppressed

27:44

group or know what this person's background

27:46

as I assume she's as a part

27:48

of some group as he sees herself

27:50

as a brave especially people that are

27:52

experiencing direct state violence. Okay

27:55

since call everything violence. So.

27:58

Right there you lose My group and incredible. with

28:00

me because you think everything is violence. Like

28:03

being part of the pan-African diaspora

28:05

within the United States, that

28:08

certainly happened in the

28:10

United States. There are shameful history, which

28:13

is built on enslavement and dehumanization

28:15

and degradation of African

28:17

peoples that does politicize you. I'm

28:19

just asking, does this

28:21

reflect America in 2024? Who

28:24

raises a child to feel this way

28:26

about the country right now? I

28:29

keep saying, can we just live in the

28:31

year we're living in? Not whitewash the past,

28:33

but live in the present. I mean, that

28:35

someone feels, you're at UCLA. Who

28:38

is oppressing you? The

28:47

question is, who raises them to feel this way

28:49

is who educates them to feel this way, right? If

28:51

you look at curricula in a lot of secondary schools,

28:53

probably the kind of secondary school that a lot of

28:55

Ivy League students have been to, if you look at

28:57

the curricula at a lot of elite schools, and I

29:00

teach at one of them, there is

29:02

the paradigm I spoke of before. There are

29:04

all of these buzzwords, and

29:06

that's what produces this in part.

29:08

What are the other buzzwords? You

29:11

mean like- Oppressed or oppressed, colonizer,

29:13

colonized, victim, victimizer, everything falls into

29:15

this binary. And if you can

29:17

claim like the top victim status, then

29:19

you win. Whereas, you know, in

29:21

America, in Britain and other countries

29:24

in the West, we used to celebrate heroism and achievement.

29:27

I still like those, but- And

29:33

by the way, and also, I mean, I think

29:35

we should also realize that some people are, you

29:37

know, they used to be said in the history

29:39

of warfare that people fight the last war. You

29:42

know, like in Iraq, you fight

29:44

Vietnam, and in Vietnam, you fight

29:46

Korea and so on. And

29:48

it's one of the reasons why a lot of wars go wrong. I'd

29:51

argue also that people are fighting the last

29:53

culture war. I mean, a lot of

29:55

people would just love the clarity of 1968. You know, and

29:59

they honestly believe that- they would be the heroes, whereas

30:01

of course they'd just most likely

30:03

be like everyone else and not particularly.

30:05

Well, you've written recently about Alan Bloom, right? Yeah, of

30:07

course. That's the late 80s, early 90s. You had a

30:10

show called Politically Incorrect, right? If you go back, and

30:12

I do in the book, if you go back and

30:14

you look at the late 80s and the early 90s,

30:17

it's the same conversation we're having now, just different

30:19

words. So I was watching a video of Robert

30:22

Bork the other day from, I think, the early

30:24

1990s, and he was

30:26

talking about radical egalitarianism. He was in vain

30:28

against it. That's just wokeness

30:30

with more syllables, right? So the more

30:32

things change, the more they remain the same. Also,

30:35

one of the very interesting things about that with Bork, Bloom,

30:37

and others is that they diagnose,

30:39

people diagnose this in the 1980s, as

30:41

you know. And we've known the problems

30:43

that are going on, this victimhood

30:46

culture. We've known this for 40

30:48

years now, and everyone's been great at diagnosing

30:50

it, but we haven't solved it. We haven't

30:52

reversed it. It's just got worse. Well, I

30:54

mean, we have an

30:56

ex-president, maybe to be a next president,

30:58

who's the victim in chief, right? His

31:00

entire political currency is making himself the

31:02

world's biggest victim of the deep state,

31:04

of those awful elites, of Democrats, of

31:06

everyone, right? He won election

31:09

because people saw themselves in him, and

31:11

he said he encouraged that, and he

31:13

said, I am like, I'm a symbol

31:16

of your victimization. Vote

31:18

for me, and it is your revenge against the

31:20

people who oppress you. And he said it more

31:22

bluntly than ever this cycle. He said, I am

31:24

your retribution. I think those are some of

31:26

the most meaningful words we've heard in a long time. And

31:28

that's why I think he wants to be sent to jail

31:30

for a night. I don't know that he wants to use

31:33

the jail toilet. I don't know. No,

31:35

I mean, like, that's got to be in his head,

31:37

you know? We'll talk about that in a minute. But

31:39

I did mention graduation. Most of the

31:41

colleges are still having graduation, but it's

31:44

a little different this year. Every year, as a

31:46

custom on the show, we show the hats, you

31:48

know, when kids graduate. There are

31:50

some of the real ones that they have. Thanks, Mom

31:52

and Dad. Hire me onto the next adventure.

31:54

This year, they're a little different. Would you like to see some

31:56

of that? Okay. I

32:00

thought you loved... Um... Like...

32:04

Hide your weed, Mom and Dad. I'm coming home.

32:10

I'm Gen Z and I might possibly vote. Uh,

32:17

love to my family, death to America. Um...

32:25

Not anti-Semitic. I just hate Jews. Oh,

32:27

wow. It's a very

32:29

different year. Thanks for

32:31

the checks, Mr. Gates. Uh,

32:40

the job I haven't started yet already sucks. I

32:42

quit. They

32:49

said I couldn't do it and that's why I cheated. Ah!

32:56

I'm ready to cancel speakers in the real world.

33:04

From the river to my parents' basement. And...

33:13

Excited to see what I'll complain about next. Alright.

33:16

So let's talk about... What's

33:21

the problem? Okay,

33:26

I know I talk about this a lot on this

33:28

show, but I have to do it again. I did

33:30

it last week. I tore up Merrick Garland, a new

33:32

asshole, because... I mean, the Democrats

33:34

have had four years to

33:36

put Trump on trial and it is all

33:38

just going away. They blew it at every

33:41

turn. Here's what's happened this week. Georgia,

33:44

that one? Okay. They're

33:46

going to take up Trump's argument about

33:48

Fannie Willis. She's the prosecutor, she's having

33:50

an affair with the guy she

33:53

hired. I mean, it's not really relevant to the

33:55

case, but they left an opening. And

33:57

now that one's going to be delayed. documents

34:00

one that's never gonna happen because that's

34:02

a Trumpy judge down there. So

34:05

it's Stormy or Bust. If

34:18

this one doesn't work and she's a

34:20

bad witness because let me

34:22

show you a little video. This is when

34:24

I had Stormy on in 2018

34:27

and first I asked her why she had sex

34:29

with Trump, listen to that and then listen to

34:31

what she says after that and then we're gonna

34:33

talk about the trial because it's quite a variance

34:35

of what she said to me in 2018. Why

34:39

did you fuck

34:42

Donald Trump? Okay,

34:45

but you say it's not a me-too-k. It is not

34:47

a me-too-k. I mean I wasn't assaulted,

34:50

I wasn't attacked or raped or

34:53

coerced or black-nailed. They tried to shove me

34:55

in the me-too-box to further their own agenda

34:57

and first of all I didn't want any part

34:59

of that because it's not the truth and I'm

35:02

not a victim in that regard. That's

35:04

not what she's saying now. She's

35:08

talking about he was bigger and

35:10

blocking the way. It's all the

35:12

me-too-buzzwords. She said there

35:15

was a power imbalance of power for sure.

35:17

My hands were shaking so

35:19

hard. She said she blacked out. Blacked

35:23

out? She's a porn star. I

35:28

don't think that doesn't mean she's been subjected

35:30

to the likes of Donald Trump. You

35:39

really think she blacked out? I mean a

35:41

porn star is used to having sex with

35:43

people she does not know. That's the job.

35:46

It's kind of like Stormy Bob, Bob Stormy.

35:48

Fuck. Action

35:50

and let's go and we're losing the light.

35:54

So I just think this is I just think she's

35:56

not a good witness and this is... wasn't

36:00

a good day for her in court and she

36:02

wasn't a good witness. She has contradictory things she

36:04

said in the past and you

36:07

know everyone who is hanging on

36:09

the hope of Stormy Daniels being the way

36:11

to get Trump in prison is gonna have

36:13

another disappointment coming I think. This

36:16

feels to me as a kind

36:18

of last chance as you say

36:20

for the people who it's clear to a lot

36:22

of the a lot of the country think let's say

36:25

that there is just an aim to make sure

36:27

that Donald Trump is not on the ballot later this

36:29

year and it'll be done anyway but

36:31

as you say to end up

36:33

with a Stormy Daniels case as the

36:35

main hope is if I was

36:37

a you know the main person wanting to

36:39

get Trump in prison that would not be

36:41

the thing I would want to hang this

36:43

on. I worry about another aspect of her

36:45

testimony which is the detail the gratuitous detail.

36:47

I keep having flashbacks to Lewinsky Clinton right

36:49

and one of the reasons I think Bill

36:51

Clinton was able to survive that whole Monica

36:53

Lewinsky chapter was because

36:55

Ken Starr and his Republican pursuers

36:58

were so lascivious and overzealous I mean we

37:00

thought the details of the Star Report are

37:02

nothing I mean what she said on the

37:04

witness stand is nothing compared to that. I

37:07

don't think you know who wrote that what you

37:09

know who wrote that the Star Report? Brett

37:11

Kavanaugh. Oh yeah oh yeah the one who

37:13

wrote all about that's Justice Kavanaugh to you.

37:21

But all the stuff about sex with

37:24

a Jew on Easter they

37:29

put you're right they put in all those

37:31

details on purpose and I think your point

37:33

is that it screwed them right. Yes and

37:35

if you are not a total partisan at

37:38

this point if you're those that tiny band

37:40

of people in the middle I don't think

37:42

they like to see people even Donald Trump

37:44

gratuitously humiliated and so I don't think that

37:46

is helping the cause of preventing another Trump.

37:49

Yeah the humiliation thing is really striking I

37:51

mean there were details that the court went

37:53

into this week which they didn't need to

37:55

there was no reason why she had to

37:58

go into these details about allegedly spying. I

38:00

do like this spanking. In

38:02

which case, it would be cool to

38:04

give you a number. No, I like

38:06

this. I

38:10

like this symbolism of it, because in

38:12

one version of the story, a disputed version, she's

38:14

spanking him with a magazine that he's on the

38:17

cover of. And that

38:19

just feels to me like some perfect

38:21

convergence of political commentary, psychotherapeutic

38:23

come-up ins, and bad Pornhub

38:26

video. No? No. No.

38:30

No. Nevertheless, the...

38:33

Nevertheless, as with Clinton, there is

38:35

that thing that the abject humiliation

38:37

becomes too much, even

38:39

apart from anyone who is a complete partisan already.

38:42

And I think a lot of people will think

38:44

that. I mean,

38:46

people wouldn't want to have their sex lives gone

38:48

into in this kind of detail. It's interesting. I'm

38:50

out plugging a book. I probably shouldn't do it

38:52

tonight, but I will. It's calm. What's

38:55

this comedian said? Well, Stockfield, it's out May

38:57

21st. It's been pre-ordered. But, no, but it

38:59

is true. Now that

39:01

I'm doing interviews with you, the big question that people

39:03

are asking me, I

39:05

see every interview asks the same question, which is like, you know,

39:08

you make fun of the left a lot more than you

39:11

used to. Yes, I do, because they're goofier and more obnoxious

39:13

than they used to be. It doesn't mean I've turned into

39:15

a Republican. I haven't changed on that at all. They

39:17

also just became weirder. They're

39:20

still not the threat the Republicans are,

39:22

but I do both. And the question

39:24

I get from everybody is, if you

39:26

really don't want Trump elected, and I really

39:28

don't, then why don't you

39:30

just shut up about Joe Biden and just

39:32

shut up about what's wrong with the left? And

39:35

it's so interesting, this very week, I noticed, I

39:37

guess he's not your boss anymore, right? You're at the

39:39

Times. I see you in the Times often, but you're

39:41

not officially with the paper? I'm kind of half in,

39:44

half out. Oh. I'm

39:48

just going with the evening's metaphors. I see. So

39:52

I see that head

39:54

of the New York Times, the executive editor, Joe

39:56

Kahn, was asked almost the same

39:58

question this guy did. Dan Pfeiffer used to

40:01

work for Obama. He was complaining. He

40:03

said the Times does not see their

40:05

job as saving democracy or stopping an

40:07

authoritarian from taking power. He was complaining

40:09

that they don't do it. And

40:12

Mr. Khan said, I don't even know how

40:14

that would work. We become an instrument

40:16

for the Biden campaign and put out a stream

40:18

of stuff that's very favorable to

40:20

them and only write negative stories about the other

40:22

side, which made me laugh because I feel like

40:24

that is what the Times actually does, and I

40:26

didn't even want the other side to come out.

40:29

But here's Mr. Khan what he said. He

40:31

said there are people who want to elect

40:33

Donald Trump as president. It's not the job of

40:35

the news media to prevent that from happening.

40:37

It's the job of Biden and the people

40:39

around him. So I applaud this. I think

40:41

that is the right. But I wanted

40:43

to get you guys on this. If you

40:45

really I mean, it is a reasonable question.

40:48

If you really don't want Trump to be

40:50

elected, should you just be quiet about the

40:52

other side's flaws? Absolutely not. Absolutely not. If

40:54

you ignore and you sugarcoat Joe Biden's shortcomings,

40:57

then when you turn your attention to

40:59

Donald Trump's wretchedness, you've surrendered

41:01

all credibility. We don't have a

41:03

surfeit of credibility to work with right now. It's

41:12

our job to cover both of these

41:14

candidates honestly. And I honestly believe

41:16

that if we do that, the one who will

41:18

end up in the less flattering light is one

41:20

Donald Trump. And it's our job to

41:22

be a part of democracy. If you believe in

41:25

democracy, you give voters a full

41:27

menu of information. You don't feed them

41:29

baby bird style, just what you think

41:31

they can tolerate. And then you let

41:33

them make the decision. That's kind of

41:35

democracy. And we spent the last year

41:37

since 2016, when Trump was elected, we've

41:39

been saying we are the servants of

41:41

truth. We are the guardians of truth.

41:43

We can't say, but there's an asterisk

41:46

if we think telling you the truth might have an

41:48

election turn out differently from what we want. But

41:51

I mean, we already know that the media does

41:53

this. I mean, the media, everyone in the media

41:55

seems to think that we're not completely transparent to

41:57

the public. We are. The media as a whole,

41:59

the public can see right through. The public knew

42:01

exactly what most of the media were doing with

42:03

Hunter Biden in the 2016 election. They

42:05

knew that there was an attempt to suppress the

42:07

story and

42:10

then afterwards we discovered short. There was an attempt to

42:12

suppress the story. Why? Because a large

42:14

amount of the media just wanted to get their guy in. I

42:17

can't understand this. I have to say, I don't know about the job

42:19

of a comedian, but the job of a journalist in

42:21

relation to politicians is famously

42:23

what the position of a dog should

42:25

be to a lamppost. You're

42:27

meant to piss on them. You are

42:31

not meant to be.

42:37

The media is not meant to be. Journalists are

42:39

not meant to be the amancourass of any

42:41

political party, any politician. We're just meant to

42:43

report the truth as we see it. Of

42:45

course it's editorializing, but this idea that it's

42:47

like a team sport, if you want a

42:49

team sport, go into politics. Don't be in

42:51

journalism and the media. But here's the thing

42:54

we can't do. We need to be honest

42:56

about them both. We need not to ignore

42:58

and sugarcoat Biden's shortcomings, but we also can't

43:00

do this. Here's one bad story about Trump.

43:02

Here's one bad story about Biden. We can't

43:04

enforce this mathematical equivalence. You've got one

43:07

candidate who has delusions or aspirations to

43:09

a quasi-fascist state. You've got another who's

43:11

going to mix up the name of

43:13

world leaders and need a midday nap.

43:15

It's not eeny, meeny, my own. The

43:25

problem with that is that it

43:28

could easily be done by a Trump supporter the other

43:30

way around, as you know. The problem

43:32

in this country now, as I see it ... What's the

43:34

other way? If

43:37

50 percent of the population vote one way, 50

43:39

percent vote another, and occasionally you get this sort

43:41

of small percentage you swing, I

43:43

would have thought you'd at least have to

43:45

take the reasons why people support Trump seriously

43:48

and assume that they're sort of voting for

43:50

him in spite of what they know about

43:52

him. I think that there's this very,

43:54

very strange thing that's happened in this country. It's

43:56

worse than any other democracy I know, which is

43:58

that you have to ... have now a

44:00

situation where people don't have different opinions. They

44:03

have different facts. And so

44:05

everything that you can say from 2016 if you're

44:07

a Democrat and from 2020 if you're a

44:10

Republican or from this year on is

44:12

just a totally different set of facts,

44:14

a totally different version of history. My

44:17

worry is that you can't- That's called the Internet and

44:19

social media. Yeah. Yeah, that's definitely made

44:21

it worse, of course. But I'm going to take Frank's

44:23

right on this for a minute. Just by quoting Mr.

44:25

Tim Scott, he was running for

44:27

president on the Republican side. He didn't make it.

44:31

Now he was asked this week,

44:33

last week, would he accept

44:35

the 2024 election results? He

44:39

goes around a little bit and then he says, at the end of

44:41

the day, the 47th president of

44:43

the United States will be President

44:45

Donald Trump. That sounds a

44:47

lot like, no, I will

44:49

not accept any results except unless our

44:51

side wins, it's a fake election. So

44:53

I think that is a very fundamental

44:55

difference. Look, I agree, and I'm not

44:57

making this as a partisan on this

44:59

point. I just say that a

45:02

lot of Republican voters will just

45:04

observe that lots of Democrats didn't

45:06

accept the Trump election. A

45:09

lot of people in this country did Russia,

45:11

Russia, Russia, and the Russia thing

45:13

turned out not to- they relied on it.

45:15

My God, did they rely on it night

45:17

after night. Because there was giant collusion with

45:19

Russia. You

45:22

are making somewhat of a good point,

45:24

but you cannot compare saying Russia meddled,

45:31

Russia meddled, Russia meddled, which by the

45:33

way Russia did, with January 6th. No,

45:36

but you can see it. You

45:38

can't compare with the Gevins

45:40

law, because you can see

45:43

it. Donald Trump launched a

45:45

scheme. Fake electors assured to steal

45:47

the election. That is not the same as Democrats saying

45:49

we think Russia is made this way. It's not the

45:51

same, but it's on a continuum. If in 2016 there

45:54

are people who say that is not our president, you

45:56

get it first from Hillary Clinton, then you get a

45:58

lot of other people like Nancy Pelosi. not small

46:00

figures. If they do that for four years and the

46:02

Republicans get on the game, then what happens is exactly

46:04

what we have now, which is the people in this

46:07

country now only think the election is won when it's

46:09

their side of the block. This always happens. I have

46:11

to cut it through just when it's getting hot. Anyway,

46:13

thank you guys, but I've got to go to New

46:15

York. Okay.

46:25

The celebrities are wearing these ridiculous

46:27

outfits. To the Met Gala, I

46:29

have to answer the question, how do you go to the

46:32

bathroom? Or

46:39

get a drink or dance or do anything

46:41

one typically does at a gala. And

46:45

then there's the embarrassment when you have to tell your mother, I

46:48

was out all night pulling a train. You

46:58

know, someone asked the man who was in

47:00

the news because he raised a four-month-old lion

47:02

and plays with it in his yard. Do

47:04

you know how this ends, right? Yes,

47:14

congratulations, my friend. You're going to be

47:16

in the news again, one more time.

47:21

And like everyone who imagines they can make a pet out

47:23

of an apex predator, your last

47:25

words will be, don't worry, he's just playing.

47:35

There were between Kristi Noem saying she shot

47:37

her dog and RFK saying he found a

47:39

dead worm in his brain. Politicians

47:44

need to go back to lying. Politicians

47:53

need so much information. It's not

47:55

helping your chances. When I hear a guy found a dead

47:57

worm in his brain, I'm going to tell him to go back to the

47:59

office. brain, it makes me think just

48:01

one thing. You can stop asking me

48:04

to try sushi. I'm sure it's

48:12

delicious, but I think the cavemen were onto something when

48:14

they started cooking with fire. There will never be Boy

48:16

Scouts of America is changing its

48:19

name to Scouting America. Someone

48:24

has to tell them, that still sounds kind of creepy. Maybe even more so. We're Scouting

48:37

America for young boys. Yeah,

48:39

that doesn't sound good either. Don't

48:48

be surprised, these $800 designer jeans with the stain that

48:50

looks like you pissed your

48:54

pants are

48:56

sold out. Hey, the kids love streaming. And

48:59

young voters are the key to this

49:07

election. And these pants say, I love Joe Biden

49:09

so much, I want to dress just like you.

49:12

And finally, new rule, now that

49:14

the campus protesters are finally packing up their tents

49:23

and delousing their hair, it's

49:27

time for the media to admit that they

49:29

blew the whole thing way out of proportion.

49:31

Because as always with media these days, they

49:34

don't cover what's most important, just what's most

49:36

fun to watch. There are 15.2 million

49:39

college students in the

49:42

US and 2300 have been arrested. That's

49:44

one 67th of 1% and half of the ones in New

49:48

York weren't even students. But

49:50

we were given

49:52

the false impression that these protesters are the

49:54

voice of their generation having found a cause

49:56

for which they were willing to go to

49:58

the tents. and to the

50:01

barricades. Oh, please, these kids

50:03

are more violent when their team wins a championship.

50:06

LAUGHTER A

50:14

Harvard Youth Poll proved it. They asked

50:16

people 18 to 29 what issues mattered

50:18

most to them, and out

50:20

of 16 choices, Palestine came in 15. The

50:23

vast majority just wanted to do what they went

50:25

to college for in the first place, to experiment

50:27

with being a lesbian. LAUGHTER

50:37

When these kids chant, the whole world is

50:39

watching, they're right. But only

50:41

because you assholes with the cameras won't show

50:44

anything else. Isn't there a bear

50:46

in a swimming pool somewhere you should be covering?

50:53

So, I

50:55

thought as a public service, since it's so

50:57

hard to find reliable news these days, tonight

50:59

I would provide a few rules of thumb

51:01

for trying to follow the news in our

51:03

modern age. Starting with,

51:06

if the headlines in your preferred news outlet

51:08

routinely feature words like shreds,

51:11

destroys, pummels, bashes,

51:15

your outlet is a partisan piece of

51:17

shit. Either that or you're reading a

51:19

Batman comic. LAUGHTER Gitto

51:27

with obliterates, roasts, annihilates

51:29

and owns. You're

51:31

supposed to be a source for information, not

51:33

Nicky Glaser at the Tom Brady roast. LAUGHTER

51:42

Any news source that quotes the internet

51:44

or writes Twitter says or

51:47

a bunch of hacks too lazy to do

51:49

real journalism. You can pretend you wrote a

51:51

piece on the zeitgeist, but what you really did was

51:53

look on your phone and quote the three

51:55

angriest people with the most time on their hands.

51:58

LAUGHTER Hooray,

52:06

if your news outlet consistently reduces everything

52:09

that happens in the world to who

52:11

the president of America is, get rid

52:13

of it. It's just

52:16

thoughtless, reflexive teen politics. Trust

52:19

me, no one lighting a tire fire in Haiti

52:21

is thinking, I wouldn't have done

52:23

this under Trump, but given the weakness of

52:25

the Biden administration, why not? Every

52:36

problem in the world isn't caused by

52:38

the president. When that train

52:41

derailed in East Palestine, it wasn't

52:43

because Trump deregulated the brakes and

52:45

the container ship didn't hit

52:47

the bridge because of Biden's woke

52:49

DEI agenda. These aren't news stories,

52:52

they're story lines pumped into your

52:54

bubble. Four, always

52:56

be aware that once the news

52:58

became a profit division of media

53:00

companies, they stopped being

53:02

in the news business and are now in

53:04

the audience-stroking business. The goal

53:07

is no longer to inform opinions, it's

53:09

to reinforce them. Walter Cronkite used

53:11

to say, that's the way it is. Now

53:14

it's, that's our story and we're sticking to

53:16

it. Your

53:24

first whole story never. On

53:26

Fox, a Venezuelan migrant

53:28

is always stabbing a white lady. And

53:31

on NPR, where they stop bashing the

53:34

rich long enough only to beg for money. Jamaica

53:39

is a paradise and Nebraska is a no-go

53:41

zone. News Nation reported

53:43

this year that the US was on track

53:45

for nearly a 300% increase in measles

53:49

cases. 300%,

53:51

wow, that sounds like it could be millions. It

53:54

was 35, because they just

53:56

want to manipulate you into clicking. Look,

53:59

I have 10. fingers. You want to see me suddenly

54:01

have 80% less? Five.

54:18

Never trust the initial reports. The media

54:20

cares way more about being first than

54:22

being right. They love a scoop, but

54:24

it's a scoop of shit because it

54:26

always turns out to be wrong. This

54:29

goes way back to, remember Columbine? Remember

54:31

that? The first school shooting where it

54:34

was widely reported that the shooters were

54:36

members of a trench coat mafia? They

54:38

weren't. That they were being bullied? Not

54:40

true. And they targeted jocks? No evidence

54:43

of that. So they got everything right

54:45

except for all of it. You

54:56

have to care about the truth. The

54:58

media doesn't care about it because they

55:00

know you don't care. That you just

55:02

want to hear your side. So

55:04

at some point you need to take a step

55:06

back, look around and be really honest. Are

55:09

you actually as fucked as your news feed

55:11

tells you you are? Are you

55:13

miserable? Some people are and we

55:15

should help them. Are you destitute?

55:18

Some people are and we should help them.

55:20

But most people who take the subway get

55:22

to work alive. Most don't

55:24

fall out of a plane with a missing door. Odds

55:31

are you won't

55:39

actually catch bird flu during a school

55:41

shooting or be living on the

55:43

street because a squatter snatched your house. Be

55:46

honest. Are you really

55:48

that sad about the present? Sorry

55:51

about the past and scared shitless about

55:53

the future. People

55:55

come up to me a lot these days and

55:57

they say Bill what are we going to do? If

56:00

he wins, they don't even

56:02

ever have to say who. I know who they mean.

56:05

The guy who always looks like he's jerking up two guys

56:07

when he's dancing. That's

56:09

it. That's it. That's

56:22

it. Sounds over. Well,

56:26

you know what? I don't know what we'll do if

56:28

he wins, but my guess is we'll keep on living.

56:31

Trump could absolutely blow up the world

56:33

on day one of term two. He's

56:35

a dangerous, erratic, insane, awful person, and

56:37

I'd love to help him get not

56:40

elected. But he didn't actually

56:42

start World War III last time, or

56:44

nuke a hurricane, or trade Puerto Rico

56:46

for Greenland. Sure, the

56:57

sequel is usually worse, but until he

56:59

does, I'm going to live my

57:01

life, and not the one the media wants me to

57:03

live, and I'm in half the country and shitting my

57:05

pants 24-7. Is

57:08

the sky really falling? I don't

57:10

know. Maybe. And maybe it's just the

57:13

door from a Boeing airplane. All right.

57:15

I say so. I'll be at the all-dream

57:17

in Minneapolis, July 16th, in the little southern

57:19

Milwaukee on the 14th, and

57:21

the ones who are musical in Boston, July 26th,

57:23

and others are just very, very greedy. And

57:26

they're a classic, and I go, I tell you something, and you

57:28

two. Thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen. I'll

57:33

see you next time.