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is not the podcast you are used

2:22

to. This is a Big

2:25

Brother Canada 12 recap

2:27

on Rob Has A Podcast. Not

2:30

hosted by Taron Armstrong. But

2:33

perhaps someone a bit

2:35

nuclear. Hello everybody, Mike

2:37

Bloom here, Taron's gone.

2:40

And it's our house to play in

2:43

now as we're ready to break down

2:45

the Movie Night Massacre.

2:47

The eviction quote unquote

2:49

event of the week.

2:52

We're gonna break down whatever the hell we

2:54

just watched. Now we can call it Movie

2:57

Night Massacre. But I prefer with this current

2:59

panel to call it a Movie

3:01

Mike Matt Sir Kirsten.

3:03

As we are gonna break it

3:06

all down tonight. It took me just as long

3:08

to come up with that pun as I did a risk that

3:10

I read out all the names that we already

3:12

knew within the roles. We got to

3:14

talk about whatever the hell was going on there. And

3:16

I'm so excited for this panel to break it all

3:18

down and figure out where we

3:21

are going as we have just

3:23

started sitting in our seats for whatever is

3:25

about to play in front of us. Of

3:27

course our panel tonight as I have so

3:30

punfully mentioned before the great Kirsten McKennis.

3:32

Kirsten, how are you? Don't

3:36

do that. Oh my god. So scary. Oh,

3:40

was it just my face? Was that after I pulled off

3:42

the mask? That should have been your reaction. The mask? Totally

3:44

fine. The second

3:46

the mask came off, that got scary. Well,

3:49

Matt Ligori, what do you think? Am

3:51

I ugly? Is this how we're starting

3:53

the podcast? Are you ugly? Michael, how

3:56

more confident is he? I did not say

3:58

that. Am I

4:00

more pleasant at getting bugs dumped on you while you

4:02

try to hold a jar up? Yes!

4:05

I'm going to forego an introduction for myself

4:07

and just let the listeners know that may

4:09

not be watching the YouTube video that Mike

4:11

did start this podcast just now with a

4:13

rolling-type math on his face in honor of

4:16

the massacre. I want everybody to know

4:18

that we did not see that before we went live

4:20

so genuine shock came across to

4:22

both of us and now we

4:24

begin. And now

4:27

we do begin and what we begin

4:29

to see is, I

4:31

wouldn't even call a big brother

4:33

at a certain extent. Sure, not

4:35

at all. I think we can start early and

4:37

say that was not big brother. But

4:40

what we got was some

4:42

form of social strategy as we began the

4:44

latest week of the game some are saying,

4:46

okay maybe we're starting jury this week. Jury

4:49

is quite literally still out on that

4:51

as everyone goes up to the

4:54

HOH room for this unknown period of time

4:56

and when they come back down,

4:58

not only is the house made over but

5:00

so is the structure of this

5:03

round. Movie Night massacres here and

5:05

a parent two episode event?

5:08

Oh maybe three? Even we're

5:10

still not entirely sure.

5:12

Whenever this podcast comes

5:14

back, whenever someone's evicted, Karen will be back

5:16

interviewing them also covering what's happening up to

5:19

this point. We could also expect maybe Matt,

5:21

I go to US like my digital dailies

5:23

expert, maybe no dailies until we get an

5:25

eviction. I think that's very safe to say.

5:28

They did not give a daily on Friday

5:30

so that we would not know what was

5:32

happening before the massacre. If this

5:34

all happened in one night, which it seems like

5:36

it did, that this was all one sequence of

5:38

events, everybody needed to stay, you know continuity needed

5:40

to occur. There's no chance that we're

5:43

seeing anything until we if

5:45

we had to guess and I'm sure we're going to speculate. I

5:47

feel like the rest of the week is going to play out

5:49

as normal with the veto ceremony

5:51

ending on Tuesday and then the eviction on

5:53

Wednesday. So we're not going to see a

5:55

second of what's going on behind the scenes.

5:57

I don't think any dailies until Thursday. and

6:00

even that very much. Yeah.

6:04

Yeah. We'll get like seven dailies on

6:06

Thursday so that we can find out what happens. You

6:08

know, you probably are so right about that, which drives

6:10

me insane when they do that. I'm like, who's watching

6:13

the first one, the second one, the third one, who's

6:15

even watching the fourth one? But, you know, some of

6:17

us still do. Yeah, you know

6:19

what? You want to do that Netflix model for digital

6:21

dailies, it seems, whether it'll work in a binge format.

6:23

But yeah, just setting some stuff up

6:26

at the top here. Taron is okay.

6:28

He just has the night off. He

6:30

will be back on Tuesday, we can

6:32

confirm. Whether or not there will be

6:34

an eviction, he will come back, he'll

6:37

have a recap of whatever's going on in the house,

6:39

which does look, for

6:41

lack of a better term, pretty spicy,

6:43

concerning all the fallout that's going to

6:45

happen. And he's gonna have a lot

6:47

to walk into as, again, the big

6:49

headline of this episode is like, brand

6:52

new social strategy game, just kind

6:55

of nestled inside of this episode

6:57

of Big Brother Canada. I

6:59

mean, I think a lot of our expectations

7:01

and thoughts ebbed and flowed

7:03

throughout the episode. I think a lot of this is gonna

7:05

be us right after the

7:07

episode, kind of figuring out our thoughts on

7:10

this new format overall. But, Kirsten,

7:12

what did you think about the past hour that

7:14

we just witnessed? So,

7:16

it was

7:19

somewhat compelling television, for sure.

7:23

It was not Big Brother. I

7:26

don't think it's a direction I like

7:28

for Big Brother to make everything reliant

7:31

on the order you perform in a

7:33

competition. I think that's boring

7:36

and not really the point. And

7:41

I wish it had just been a longer episode

7:43

and we had gotten the full cinematic experience. This

7:45

is like when they're like, okay, we're gonna start

7:48

breaking the last in a series into two movies,

7:51

you know? No, just gonna be some

7:53

whole movie. If there's one

7:55

thing Big Brother Canada is gonna do and that

7:57

I don't think anybody has ever contested, it's the...

8:00

production value is always there. They always

8:02

go all out with the

8:04

effects. And even starting from the beginning

8:06

of the episode, they were doing a

8:08

lot. Too much, it's up to you.

8:10

The intro and turning it into the

8:14

scary purge-like announcement and

8:16

the alarms that are going off to scare

8:18

the crap out of you. And that

8:21

part of it, the show of it,

8:23

I can appreciate. And I probably appreciated

8:25

the rest of the episode maybe

8:28

more than I would have expected to. I think

8:30

the one very obvious downfall of this episode

8:32

was the pacing because at first we thought

8:34

this was all going to be across one

8:36

night that we were going to get the

8:38

veto then play out. And this was going

8:40

to serve as a full episode double eviction

8:43

type of deal. And we were going to

8:45

lose somebody. That did not

8:47

happen. We all probably theorized as

8:50

we got closer to the end, it's 8.50

8:52

for the East Coast, that

8:54

the episode is coming to an

8:56

end. We don't have time for a veto

8:58

end of the eviction. Yeah. I was holding

9:00

out hope because that first 10 minutes was

9:02

done without an act break. It went through

9:04

the aftermath of the eviction, through some planning,

9:07

through, oh my God, what's going on? Let's

9:09

sit in these sketchy recliners. And I thought,

9:11

okay, maybe we'll do the same thing at the end. But listen,

9:13

we didn't get any sponsorships in Big Brother Canada.

9:16

So we had to get it around then that

9:18

we were cutting like three times

9:20

over the course of the last 15

9:22

minutes. That's where I did lose all

9:24

hope today. I love Pokemon countries. Was

9:27

there like a scary movie sponsor? Because

9:29

if they didn't. No. That's a wonderful.

9:31

Yeah, there's no extra stuff going on.

9:34

That's why they needed all the commercials,

9:36

obviously. So I want to ask,

9:38

because you all, you're American, you don't actually

9:42

watch that much Canadian TV. Are

9:44

there any Canadian commercials that

9:46

you're finding particularly compelling this

9:48

season of BB Can? They

9:52

have a commercial that plays for all

9:54

it's an ad that goes in every

9:57

single drop. I don't even know what it's

9:59

for because I see. on the drops, don't tell them that

10:02

you can have that power. And it also plays

10:04

in the episode. It starts

10:06

with, I'm so excited,

10:08

the song, along it. I

10:11

can literally play in my head right now. And

10:13

somebody's like, so did they win an auto or

10:15

something like that? I didn't tell. Yeah,

10:18

it plays every time and every time on

10:20

the drop that they have so many hats

10:22

interspiced. I'm always hearing, I'm so excited. I

10:25

do like Mr. Tony Bette. I'm

10:29

not sure what his name is, but he seems like a fun

10:31

guy. Oh

10:33

yeah, Adam's right. It's a winner's ad that I'm

10:35

so excited. Okay. Winners

10:38

is on my list for

10:41

having that ad be so repetitive. Yeah,

10:44

but Mike, it did feel like if

10:47

we had known going into this episode,

10:49

we're to expect that it wasn't going

10:51

to end in an eviction. I think the pacing would

10:53

have made more sense because we're sitting there the whole

10:55

time waiting to find out who's gonna go home. Again,

10:58

if I knew that nobody was gonna go home and

11:00

this was just gonna end where it ended, they squeezed

11:02

the veto in like the last five minutes too. It's

11:04

like, if you're gonna extend out to Tuesday or maybe

11:06

even Wednesday, I don't know, like breathe a little bit.

11:09

I don't know. I mean, I agree on the one

11:12

hand, like when we saw every

11:14

single person processed to the back and

11:16

read the same card and even having,

11:19

you know, Elijah and Avery who

11:21

basically couldn't pick roles, still going

11:23

back there and going through the

11:25

same thing. And then

11:27

when we had Orisa come back and then

11:29

do the slow dramatic reveal, I

11:31

thought, okay, this is way too much chat.

11:34

After I thought we were getting some interesting

11:36

momentum going, I think really the crux of

11:38

our talk tonight is gonna be through a

11:40

lot of, okay, what's the ideal choice when

11:42

you are in each position picking each role

11:45

of this new game. But if

11:47

I'm to believe the next time on

11:49

teaser that's happening, like I don't want

11:52

a lot of this drama to be like crammed

11:54

into like a five minute segment in the episode,

11:57

right? If there is indeed a lot of shit

11:59

hitting the. fan, like, let's dedicate

12:01

an entire episode to that. I think the ideal

12:03

would have been, like we have done a couple

12:05

times at Big Brother US, let's make this a

12:07

big two hour episode. Let's

12:09

put Sunday and Tuesday together and then make

12:11

it around. Because I also think something that,

12:14

again, is a bit confusing is that we

12:16

have to get rid of

12:18

a good amount of people, right? Between here and

12:20

now, we're at nine, but we have to be

12:22

at three in like four weeks. And

12:24

we started with less people than usual too. We started with 14

12:26

and 16. So

12:29

wait, Kate, we're out,

12:32

how many are we at now? Nine now or we're about to be

12:34

at nine? We're at nine right now. We

12:36

got rid of five. Okay.

12:39

And that's really interesting because typically at this point

12:41

would be the triple addiction because

12:43

they like to, or no, do they do that at seven hours?

12:45

They would have definitely done a double by now and then the

12:47

triple may be like a week or two. Yeah,

12:49

interesting. I do think like from a

12:52

TV perspective, a few things that would

12:54

have made this better is one, if

12:56

they don't show everybody reading the same card

12:59

over and over again, like I'm fine with

13:01

the jump scare for everyone. That's funny. Like

13:03

keep it in. So they could have, but they could

13:05

have made up time by not having everyone reading the card.

13:08

And I think it would have been better if they

13:11

couldn't see who had already been cast

13:13

into what roles they just had, which

13:16

roles were available and which people were

13:18

available. So like, you

13:20

know, when Avery goes in to make her choice, like

13:22

she doesn't know she's nominated kind of vibes.

13:24

Yeah. I go back and forth about that because

13:26

I do agree on the one hand, like, yeah,

13:29

it's nice to have everyone kind of do it

13:31

blindly of, Oh, here are the roles for you.

13:33

Pick what you can. But I do love moments

13:35

where Anthony comes in, for instance, and is like

13:37

trying to work backwards. What he thinks just happened

13:39

in the previous 10 minutes of like, Oh, well,

13:42

I think Bailey picked this and then Todd must

13:44

have picked this and then maybe Tola picked this.

13:46

And I think again, that's going to lead to

13:48

a lot of like, yeah, fun, whisperings and assumptions

13:50

that's really going to bubble to the forefront of

13:52

this episode. I mean, really the headline

13:55

out of this wild

13:57

twist is perhaps the

13:59

decimation. of the Hot Chocolate Alliance

14:02

because they come in, we start

14:04

this episode, and I'll briefly touch upon

14:06

any sort of pre-movie night madness shenanigans

14:09

because I guess it does set up

14:11

maybe a bit in terms of

14:13

TNT's big move and whether or not that

14:15

came to fruition. But Hot

14:17

Chocolate had been this alliance that had

14:19

pretty much been running the season up

14:21

to this point and was certainly building

14:23

to an interesting tension point where Anthony's

14:25

closest ally ends up going really at

14:28

the hands of the rest of the

14:30

alliance and it was starting to size

14:32

up to become something pretty interesting and

14:34

then lo and behold Big Brother ends

14:36

up throwing a twist in to perhaps

14:38

curtail those plans. But

14:40

now, despite the fact that Kayla just

14:42

won a POV and there's a chance

14:45

that Victoria will probably not nominate someone

14:47

unless she decides to spicy-vee it

14:49

and put up maybe someone like Anthony, there

14:51

is still a chance that this powerful alliance

14:54

at least has touched the block which Matt

14:56

I think is a pretty big deal considering the

14:58

iron grip they had over the season so far.

15:01

It is. I mean coming out

15:03

of last week Matt goes home. It seems

15:05

like from where I'm sitting that Kayla, Marie,

15:07

and Spicy are in the best top three

15:09

positions in the game. Maybe

15:11

not exactly at the top because you still have like the Baileys and

15:14

Todd but like Baileys specifically who like now

15:16

comes out totally in the middle of the

15:18

groups that may be warring with each other

15:20

and now no one's looking at Bailey. Taryn

15:22

said that in the time this all started

15:24

going down. But now you have

15:26

this world where the episode at

15:29

the beginning I thought did a very good job in

15:31

setting up the fact that Todd is now, we're down

15:33

in numbers, Todd who nobody was considering

15:35

throughout most of the season so far and

15:37

fair enough. But

15:39

at this point Todd has been placed alongside with

15:42

that group of Kayla,

15:44

Spicy, and Avery

15:48

where hot chocolate has still existed but they kind of

15:50

split off and they were like, oh we're on this

15:52

side, you're on this side, but we always come together

15:54

it's about hot chocolate. So then

15:56

the Kayla and Spicy side, they

15:58

have Bailey and Todd. but maybe

16:00

they don't have Todd anymore. And then the way that

16:02

this episode plays out, where they certainly don't seem to

16:04

have Todd as ironclad as they thought they did, because

16:07

Todd puts another one of them up to

16:10

ensure that it's two of those people on

16:12

his supposed side going up. Now

16:15

you have a world where the votes essentially

16:17

be controlled by Anthony, Tola, Todd,

16:19

and Lexus. We'll see

16:21

what happens with all these conversations if

16:24

that group with Spicy can pull back in a Lexus

16:26

or a Todd. But if Anthony is able to get

16:28

his claws on them and say, we need to make

16:30

sure that one of Spicy's numbers go, then

16:33

Avery's out of here. There's a

16:35

lot to go about how this goes. Well,

16:37

and I think it just goes to show, like we

16:40

get information from digital dailies, but it's

16:43

just not the same

16:45

because we don't have the full

16:47

context of these dynamics. And we

16:50

can only have the context that

16:52

the show is choosing to give to us, right?

16:54

Which is a huge downside to

16:56

actually analyzing what's happening. I

17:01

hate to just constantly be complaining about

17:03

no live feeds. But it's just like

17:05

it makes it harder for us to

17:07

do our job because we don't know

17:09

all of the moving pieces the way that

17:11

we would otherwise. But I

17:13

do think through last

17:15

week's episodes, V talks a lot about,

17:18

well, you know, we

17:20

have to pick off of each other's sides and your side needs

17:22

to just win. Sorry, we're not going

17:24

to keep it fair. Your side needs to

17:26

win. And that is just not

17:28

going to give good will to the

17:30

others. So then they will put in the work to

17:33

pick up new numbers. Yeah,

17:35

so the last thing we see

17:37

before the massacre begins is TNT

17:39

about to blow up the house

17:41

here. And it's really interesting to

17:43

pair this with, as I

17:45

watched the Matt eviction episode last night to

17:47

catch up and the conversation that Todd and

17:49

Elijah have processing around the backyard where it's

17:51

like, basically the same conversation, right?

17:54

It's like, yeah, you realize that we're

17:56

kind of under the thumb of these three women.

17:58

OK, yeah, we're going to have to. to take

18:00

a shot at them sooner rather than later.

18:02

This is obviously much more explicit in that

18:04

Todd really seems to follow the

18:07

Rob Stetson, you know, adage, right, and

18:09

starts waking up halfway through the game

18:11

and deciding Kayla is the one to

18:13

go after. And I thought, again, under

18:15

the assumption that this is going to

18:17

be one self-contained round in an episode,

18:19

I thought she was gone. So

18:21

tell me the

18:23

umpteen surprise of many at the end of this

18:25

episode when she ends up winning the veto. But

18:27

Kristin, from your perspective, is Kayla the right target

18:30

if you're a Todd and a Tola here? I

18:33

mean, I don't think

18:36

so. Because I think

18:38

that Todd and Tola just

18:40

don't, they don't have enough control.

18:42

Like, I think all the people that they're

18:44

relying on have other people

18:47

that they're more loyal to. Like, I just don't know,

18:49

I don't even know if there is

18:51

a right target for Todd and Tola at

18:53

this point with how the numbers have diminished. I don't

18:56

know. I

18:58

would say it's not the worst,

19:00

not the correct target.

19:03

I think when you're looking at the

19:06

three women as who they would potentially

19:08

be going after, you have obviously Kayla,

19:10

Spicy, Avery. Spicy, a

19:13

lot of people have had a lot of thoughts about Spicy

19:15

and her gameplay throughout the season. I can't think

19:18

of it all. She has gotten herself

19:20

in such a good spot socially with so many people.

19:22

She still remains to me at the top of the

19:24

house as far as on a social level. I think

19:27

if she sat on the block next to anybody last

19:29

week, this week, next week, I think she's got the

19:31

votes because people feel like she's done a good enough

19:33

job connecting with everybody to the point where even though

19:35

she has no, by no means has

19:38

like Tola's best interests in mind, she's

19:40

had enough conversations with him where Tola

19:43

would believe that Spicy could be on

19:45

his side quicker than Kayla would be.

19:48

So and Avery, I think, as well has done a good

19:50

job connecting with a handful of people. She didn't want to

19:52

send that home last week. She came

19:54

up from allies and she herself realized

19:56

that it made a lot of sense

19:59

for her alliance. But I

20:01

think the killer is the one of the three

20:03

the has the least genuine asked us to conversations

20:05

with some of those guys like Zola and Todd

20:07

where they really go through like they go through

20:09

bailey to to talk about our tude arms a

20:12

little to at all so I mean to look

20:14

at it out just. Throw. whatever at

20:16

the wall. spaghetti of the three of them

20:18

and he'd be fine but I think kill

20:20

it's stands out as as why are you

20:22

No one knew that they can all agree

20:24

on and it's kind of like the mat

20:26

now on the spicy side of of were

20:29

Matt was last of just like this is

20:31

an extra person who. Doesn't. Really

20:33

fit into our and get. Yeah,

20:35

I think first simply from the Todd perspective,

20:37

because I'm a little more honed in on

20:39

that than the Tola perspective. Again, it's a

20:41

little bit of a game of inches by.

20:43

There's not much of a top respect towards

20:46

her throughout the season, bacterial we really don't

20:48

see. A lot of Zola to sort of. General,

20:50

But if I'm Todd, I'm I'm sort of

20:52

trying to do what a three women had

20:54

been doing this entire time. which is like

20:56

trying to city to clean take sauce. It's

20:59

like playing a game agenda. For. It's like

21:01

if I'm gonna remove a piece, let me try to

21:03

take out a piece of still have my structure remaining.

21:05

relatively. Stable And I think for Todd he

21:07

wants it'll, make sure he's connected to Bailey. Like that.

21:10

Seems to be a relationship that I think. He.

21:12

Still wants to invest in. I'd heard a

21:14

little bit of scuttlebutt around math eviction about

21:16

How May Be Hot and Barely we're looking

21:18

to swap over to like the whole Anthony

21:20

pull aside at they were maybe starting to

21:22

eyeball those three girls as well and so

21:24

I think it's a as a bill is

21:26

gonna la ley this our she's going to

21:28

cast is her first role he might have

21:30

like. Well. I don't have a lot of

21:32

people, but the only people I trust our

21:34

Avery's Victoria and Todd I think of taught

21:36

has that knowledge of that literal hit less

21:39

than he goes. Okay who? Someone on the

21:41

opposite side that I can take out who

21:43

also won't piss off my number one ally

21:45

and Taylor happens to be in the middle.

21:47

That and diagrams. I think it's a good

21:49

shot. The take is ultimately gonna miss it.

21:51

I think that's what are kind of forecasting.

21:53

Next time it's like. Oh. Shit, The

21:55

two of us basically put Taylor up on

21:57

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23:44

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23:46

be a to wage room and. Big.

23:49

Brother Canada does not half assed

23:51

anything either had no assets or

23:53

it's full. Last is it's not

23:55

like it, it's good you all

23:58

or nothing basically and here. The

24:00

Good: Old. One. Of

24:02

the biggest aesthetic twist I have ever

24:04

seen. In the show's history and

24:07

is understandable as it sets up would

24:09

seem to be this knife or from

24:11

our perspective nice and hell. One

24:14

I love! I love making them pass their

24:16

said. That's. So funny. I.

24:18

See as yours is, Be scared. Pack it

24:20

up a you don't know who's going home.

24:22

I loved it! I. Just can't

24:25

even imagine. I mean you, you hear the

24:27

most or to scream adrenalin is pumping veins

24:29

like. Nobody's business. I can't

24:31

imagine being in the house like it's

24:33

it's You know one thing to be

24:35

watching it with the be living in

24:38

were that like Tula who's been acquired

24:40

is a studio most mellow due to

24:42

like him about your sister lives. When

24:46

you're law to my house us A.alarm

24:48

goes off you're gonna think oh my

24:51

god is like Sarah fire exerted. I'd

24:53

rather not bring down right now they thought

24:55

I was another be be ten a situation

24:57

I was oh no one six years now

24:59

they're getting evacuated is a much more stream

25:01

as your this time with what's going on

25:03

our or i hope they're smarter and was

25:05

a huge remember not like not so much

25:07

about it bothers us but there was one

25:10

time I remember specific labour. Broadcast.

25:12

A bunch of headlines and one of them

25:15

made reference to the Cbs series Jericho. That

25:17

was about like a virus but nobody knew

25:19

was because a nobody wants to are a

25:21

little on people that were cooped up inside

25:23

a Cbs run for lot for months at

25:26

a time. It's it's. just like. Your

25:28

front of play a game and is random thing comes

25:30

across like oh yes this new neural virus has emerged

25:32

in Jakarta. You're like whoa how my supposed to do

25:34

anything about that now. Year. And

25:36

famously the No One Has launched Erica is

25:38

as they. Move.

25:42

Up in peanuts, on time, I.

25:45

i think there are you again nobody is

25:48

disputing the second production did their job all

25:50

and putting this whole thing together it's the

25:52

a sex just the desired ah you know

25:54

emotion in all of these house guess where

25:56

by the time they get to the backyard

25:58

for this first competitions They're all already, you

26:00

know, they're expecting, we'll get into the competition where they're,

26:03

you know, holding these chains up and they're all shaking

26:05

the entire time as they're getting set up because everything

26:07

is scaring the crap out of them. As they go

26:09

throughout the entire rest of the competition and the jump

26:11

scares that come, they really made it to be this

26:13

movie, you know, of just

26:16

absolute horror. And again, they're

26:18

jumping up with that part. I

26:20

will say there's been a lot to quibble,

26:22

a little bit of Samantha semantics coming out with people.

26:25

Quibbling a bit with the term

26:28

of the movie night massacre, I

26:31

think some people assume that massacre

26:33

assumes multiple victims.

26:37

I would agree based on grammar. Yeah,

26:39

although I mean, I think like emotional victims, there

26:41

will certainly be a lot of people that will

26:44

be left scarred by the end of this, you

26:46

know, like they'll escape with their lives, but at

26:48

what cost? They'll all have to talk

26:50

to Dr. Stein after this one. Exactly.

26:52

Well, let the mayhem

26:55

begin. Everyone sits in their like oh

26:57

so neat recliner chairs, which is

26:59

like makes me feel from a

27:01

sanitary perspective. I don't know if I'm ever

27:03

gonna go to those recliner seat theaters again, just because

27:06

I can't think about all the work that went into

27:08

getting those out there as, Arisa is

27:10

basically gonna introduce them to their first competition,

27:12

which is like an endurance

27:14

competition combined with sort of our

27:16

typical stay in there for

27:18

100 minutes challenge where infamously the

27:20

most famous example I can remember

27:22

from BB Can was Big Brother Canada Five,

27:25

of course, when I could freak it out

27:27

over the bunny rabbit hopping all over her.

27:29

Now I'll admit, I was

27:31

ready to, you know, put

27:33

on my conspiracy tinfoil hat for a second

27:35

and be like, okay, so

27:37

they're holding up a

27:39

jar with their arms for as long as

27:42

possible. All right, which guy is

27:44

gonna take this, but no, Bailey

27:46

continues to be the surprise of

27:48

the season between personality, between

27:50

strategy and between competition prowess.

27:53

Yeah. The minute I

27:55

saw those boxes, I was like, oh, they're

27:57

gonna dump bugs on them. If

28:00

I was in that, I wouldn't put my head in

28:02

the box. I'd be like, I don't need power tonight.

28:04

Buy like, I'd

28:07

rather be literally dead than have a worm dropped

28:09

on me. I

28:11

want to give them, well, I want to give them, yeah, the

28:13

benefit of the doubt at least and say that, do we all

28:15

assume that they must have had those

28:17

jars of whatever like proportioned based on like

28:20

body weight or whatever, like they were answered

28:22

with the same as Avery, right? I

28:25

have to. I don't know that I trust

28:27

them to do that. I wonder if

28:29

maybe just it being changed instead of

28:32

directly holding it made

28:34

some sort of difference where the weight wasn't

28:36

as important, but like I

28:38

highly doubt they measured all that stuff. Yeah,

28:41

I mean, it could have just been like

28:43

a technique perspective, right? Like if you're not

28:45

immediately tensing up your arms from the first

28:47

minute, then that could certainly help in terms

28:49

of longevity. But again, I'll give massive kudos

28:51

to Bailey, who was able to be also

28:53

one of the most unfazed by all the

28:55

literal shit that was thrown on them. So

28:58

we had what? Fake blood, fake teeth,

29:00

they just rinsed also. They just randomly

29:02

threw a platter of raw fish in

29:04

there. Anyone who's been keeping an

29:06

eye on the dailies enough to see like the Bailey

29:08

and Anthony conversations that have gone on throughout the season

29:10

should have known that Bailey would have a good chance

29:12

in this because she is not afraid to go toe

29:14

to toe with one of the most stubborn people in

29:16

the house, Anthony Douglas, and she

29:18

will have conversations with him. She will get

29:21

into it with him. So the

29:23

fact that Bailey was, you know, I guess stubborn

29:25

enough to stick it out through a competition like

29:27

this where nothing was going to scare her away,

29:29

make her arm shake, make her make anything,

29:31

you know, it all just made a lot of sense by the

29:34

end of it. I was very happy to see her be the

29:36

one to take it home. Yeah, you

29:38

could see Bailey, like she's kind

29:40

of flirting with Anthony these days.

29:42

So I think probably

29:44

flirting with Anthony and the big brother out, you gotta be

29:46

patient. I do feel

29:48

bad for Kayla in multiple ways over the course

29:51

of this episode, but it did seem like, it

29:54

was a little cheapo-depo that like she drops

29:56

immediately because the blood gets dumped on

29:58

her Nickelodeon slime style. you

30:00

can't prepare for that, right? You kind of have to

30:02

get a little lucky that, okay, I'm not shaky enough

30:05

that when I'm hit with something that I would

30:07

not have expected whatsoever, everyone else can expect at

30:09

least like, now I have to

30:11

anticipate something falling from the ceiling. They had no idea

30:13

what was coming to them that first time. And she just,

30:15

I think, out of pure shock, kind of

30:17

jostles her arm and it drops. And as a

30:20

result, we get this whole waterfall

30:22

where, who knows if she somehow lasted longer

30:24

in the competition, if she beats out Todd

30:26

and Tola as an example, then she doesn't

30:28

end up on that block maybe. Yeah,

30:31

really tough block. Like, you

30:34

gotta expect something's gonna drop on you. Yeah,

30:37

I mean, even if she lasted one or two more

30:39

people past where she did, then

30:41

she still ends up on the block, right? Yeah. Todd

30:43

or Tola being at the end of the thing where they

30:45

were, or we're still gonna put her up. And it was

30:47

funny, Mike, as you alluded to earlier, of like, who were

30:51

at the end, whoever went before

30:53

Goose, I'm forgetting, didn't have any

30:55

choices left because there was only two spots

30:57

of POV player left. So they went in

30:59

there, Avery, I think, she's looking at it,

31:01

she's like, so I have two names here,

31:03

there's two spots left. And they really, I

31:06

mean, that's a completely good ahead, but they really didn't seem like

31:08

that was a decision to be made, which was wild. Move

31:10

along. Yeah, it's like going to

31:13

the voting booth and like, there's only one person

31:15

running for the school board, right? Like, there's no

31:17

write-in candidates for this, even though Victoria did try

31:19

to like, ask for like, excuse me,

31:21

I am a returning player production. Can I jostle

31:23

these up really quick? Is there a coup d'etat

31:25

around here? She's like, I am the head of

31:27

household. So can I make a change? Does

31:30

that hurt to ask? Well, in this too, like, so

31:33

V's not going to be able to play in

31:35

the next HOH and very likely could be losing

31:38

Avery, tough, tough

31:40

blow for V here. We'll see, listen, if

31:42

Jag was able to be the invisible

31:44

HOH and play again. Don't say that,

31:47

Nathan. Anything possible in the world of

31:49

Big Brother. And

31:51

speaking of which, so let's get to the

31:53

reason why we're talking here.

31:56

We got through this competition, we have our order

31:58

and we're wondering what the hell is going on. going on, we're

32:00

picking a number, we're standing in line, in

32:02

line for what? And it turns out that

32:05

our Big Brother players have taken a

32:07

page out of Robin Cass's book and

32:10

have become casting directors in and

32:12

of themselves. So they walk into

32:14

the backyard and they see the jankiest

32:19

squid game knockoffs I've ever seen, where

32:21

I'm pretty sure they just took glow-in-the-dark

32:23

spike tape and just put them across

32:25

like Jibawaki's mess they got from the

32:27

Halloween sword, but I love it, but

32:30

they are given a set of

32:32

roles. There is SAFE, which is

32:34

automatically slotted into Bailey, HOH,

32:37

Slop Pass, two

32:39

nominees, three POV players,

32:42

and a no eviction vote slot.

32:44

So SAFE, but cannot vote.

32:46

And so basically, this

32:48

is a little safety chain adjacent, I

32:51

would say it's like safety chain is kind of

32:53

a weird cousin from the other part of

32:55

the country, in that we're going in a

32:57

bit of a detour from the way Big

32:59

Brother is usually done, but there is some

33:01

similar DNA, I would say. There still

33:03

was a veto competition, there was still going to

33:06

be an eviction vote, we are still emerging

33:08

from this week with an HOH,

33:11

with nominees, etc., but the way

33:13

we get there is completely unconventional.

33:15

So let's put the structural issues

33:18

aside. Matt, as like a

33:20

social strategy competition, what did

33:22

you think about this, and how much did it

33:24

take you out of the rest of what Big

33:26

Brother is supposed to be? I would

33:29

say not that much. It didn't take me that

33:31

much of normal weather, because we

33:33

still were looking at the record of these

33:35

Big Brother roles. It was just a very

33:37

non-traditional way of how we were filling the

33:39

roles, and I really didn't hate it. I

33:41

really didn't hate the concept of the game,

33:43

at least trying it once because between this

33:46

discussion that we're going to have right now,

33:48

seeing everybody's opinions who are watching, I want

33:50

to hear what it has to say about this.

33:52

I want to all discuss, was this fun?

33:54

Was this something that we should do again? Because

33:56

again, by my initial thought as

33:58

I'm watching this, I'm like, this is very... intriguing. I don't think

34:00

we've seen something like this before if we haven't forgetting

34:03

about it. And just to

34:05

see like the casting aspect of it

34:07

of like, you know, it really has

34:09

to decide who she, you know, she has the whole

34:11

board of players. Do you fill the HOH spot or

34:13

do you fill a nominee spot? And my brain is

34:16

racing, watching her do that, I'm saying like, I think

34:18

she has to put a nominee up. And then I'm

34:20

like, but wait, if she doesn't do that,

34:22

then you know, Tola is next and Tola is going to

34:24

put himself as HOH. And if somebody could give a million

34:26

thoughts to your brain of what

34:28

they move in, we're probably going to talk about, you know, what

34:31

they should or shouldn't have done. But just

34:33

the possibilities, I think, were keeping me invested enough

34:35

that I was like, even if this isn't, you

34:37

know, exactly what we've known Big Brother to be,

34:39

it's like, to me, like, Mike,

34:41

maybe, you know, you can speak on my thought process

34:43

about this comparison, but Australian

34:45

Survivor will do just the most wild twist

34:48

on any given week. And we're like, well,

34:50

this isn't Survivor, but it's Australian Survivor. So

34:52

like, maybe this isn't Big Brother, but it's

34:54

Big Brother Canada. Yeah,

34:57

Kristen, what about you? I know you've spoken about

34:59

before about how what we watched wasn't Big Brother,

35:01

but did you enjoy it? I did

35:04

not enjoy it. I feel like I'm kind of

35:06

in the middle as to like

35:08

the I think if we had gotten all of

35:10

it in one shot, I would enjoy it a

35:12

lot more. Like does that make sense? Like, though,

35:14

just yeah, that felt like sort of like a

35:17

one time kind of aberration, right? Okay, we took

35:19

care of this. Now we can get back to

35:21

our regularly scheduled program for lack of a better

35:23

term. Yeah, exactly. Like, I think if

35:25

we had just gotten to see who went home, then

35:27

it's like, okay, we got

35:29

through it all. And it was fun. But the

35:31

fact that we didn't get to see an actual

35:33

conclusion just left it feeling really unsatisfying for me

35:35

personally. I think

35:39

it's tough. I it's

35:41

unfortunate that when we see Bailey Wynn finally,

35:43

it's in just safety. And

35:45

she doesn't actually have you know, that HOH

35:47

power. So I'd love to see how she

35:50

wields that. Oh, man. Yes. Like I

35:52

really, I really want to see Bailey as

35:54

an HOH. But I think

35:56

she I think she needed to put

35:59

the nominate someone.

36:02

Yeah, so let's talk about that.

36:04

Before we do, I will say

36:06

that I really enjoy this.

36:08

I think for me, it's

36:10

not that I thought we were sort of

36:12

like belaying a rote outcome. And who knows,

36:14

maybe if Bailey had won HOH, we would

36:17

have gotten, you know, Tola and

36:19

Elijah nominations and then like, okay, we just sort

36:21

of play it out and move on with things.

36:24

But I just am still wrapping

36:26

my head around all the

36:29

configurations that this can bring up

36:31

because there's this idea of, okay, what

36:33

role do I put people into based

36:35

on not just where

36:37

they are now, but like what could happen

36:39

later? You know, let me who do I

36:41

put as HOH knowing that they could possibly

36:43

nominate somebody? Who do I put as a

36:45

POV player versus having them give them a

36:47

slot pass or putting them no eviction vote,

36:49

basically, sitting them out of the power of

36:51

veto competition. And then on

36:54

top of that, as you talked about, there's

36:56

this additional element of, well, there are people

36:58

going after me. So since it's sort

37:00

of like first come first

37:02

serve, do I purposely take a certain

37:04

name off the board so they can't

37:06

be utilized by other people? I think

37:08

there's a lot of really delicious complications

37:11

that are involved in this to the point where I

37:13

kind of want it to be like

37:15

another show in and of itself. Like I

37:17

kind of want this to be there was a game,

37:20

an online game a while back, I think called like totem

37:22

pole that would sort of do a schoolyard

37:24

pick style every single round. And then like whoever

37:26

was on the bottom, the last pick would end

37:28

up getting eliminated. And I kind of like that

37:31

as just a style of elimination each and every time. I

37:33

don't know if we need like a

37:36

big brother format to it, but it

37:38

was sort of like a little bit of House of Villains

37:40

in there as well because they have a big brother format.

37:42

I think there's so much new stuff

37:44

there. And the new stuff wasn't to

37:47

me so either confusing or ridiculous

37:49

or detrimental to the game. That

37:51

had me throwing up my hands

37:53

in anger. So like with the

37:55

low bar that big brother twist

37:57

usually are, African cleared it like

37:59

a thorough. bread and I had a

38:01

great time doing this. Again, perfect world to

38:03

Kirsten's point. I wish it would see through

38:05

to completion, but if this means that we

38:07

get more interpersonal drama from what's about to

38:09

unfold as we're about to get into, then

38:11

I'm all for it. And I

38:14

think we could also maybe tweak some of the casting

38:16

spots. Like, Slop Pass

38:18

does nothing for us tonight, you know,

38:21

to make us excited about who got

38:23

the Flop Pass. But I

38:26

don't know specifically what other roles they could have

38:28

cast, but I think other things that have to

38:30

do with the game and spots that could really

38:32

affect something like if somebody could get a double

38:34

vote, like somebody gets two votes in this eviction

38:37

or something like that, just cast other things that

38:39

are more worthwhile, like, you know, give you more

38:41

intrigue because by the time that we got the

38:43

HOH, the two nominees, and I would say

38:45

even with Anthony's like, who doesn't get to vote

38:47

that he places goose on? I

38:50

think after that, it's like, okay, we're not doing

38:52

anything else exciting all the way down to the

38:54

end. So you could probably even maybe replace the

38:56

POV spots. I think that they could continue to

38:58

think on this and make it like perfect. I

39:01

think even making instead of a Slop

39:03

Pass, make someone have not

39:06

for an extended period of time. Because I

39:08

think there's a lot more drama that will

39:10

come out of someone now has to be

39:13

a have not because of someone else versus

39:15

like how much gratitude is Anthony going to

39:17

feel towards anybody for getting a slop. Like

39:19

he's not like that's just not that much.

39:22

It's like, Oh, thank you. And then they

39:24

move on with their life and they're not

39:26

miserable. Oh, you're making someone a

39:28

have not for the rest of the season for

39:30

the next month. That's drama. They're going

39:33

to be mad. Like if you're going to have have

39:35

nots, make it dramatic. Or

39:37

just incorporate what we adore about the

39:39

prizes and punishments competition in Big Brother,

39:41

right? Like you can make some extra

39:43

stops for like Paris vacation,

39:46

or dress up on

39:48

wing vacation. Wendy's breakfast dress

39:51

up or dress up like a mealworm for the rest of

39:53

the week. I feel like the brother kind of doesn't do

39:55

a lot of like those individual punishments that are usually just

39:57

like right throughout the brother.

40:00

US. Yeah, but it could be

40:02

interesting as well, because we always see so

40:04

much drama out of that Yankee swap competition

40:06

of like, so and so took this vacation

40:08

away from me or I can't believe this

40:10

person, a frickin unitard, I can't believe

40:12

this. Like I think it could be

40:14

interesting, especially with a cast that can be

40:17

occasionally as petty as this, to see someone

40:19

individually do it, but under the

40:21

guise of anonymity could be like a very

40:23

fun middle ground to strike. And

40:26

then, like in BB can five when they

40:28

did the have not cookie thing, then they

40:30

show the footage to everybody afterwards, you know

40:32

exactly who did it. All right,

40:34

well, let's start getting into these

40:36

pics as we start with

40:39

Bailey. And so Bailey is going to go back

40:41

and forth again, she gives us our own short

40:43

list saying like, Okay, the people that I do

40:45

trust is I want to make sure that Avery,

40:48

Victoria and Todd are safe. Well,

40:51

two out of three ain't bad, as

40:53

we're about to get into perhaps prognosticating

40:55

and what's to come. And so she

40:57

is ultimately going to choose Victoria as

40:59

the HOH, which as a reminder, obviously,

41:02

the HOH did not set their own nominees,

41:04

even though it would not be totally

41:07

unbecoming of Victoria to nominate a woman.

41:09

These were not her nominees. And but

41:11

because Kayla won the veto and will

41:14

assuming maybe losing using it on herself,

41:16

she still does have the opportunity to

41:18

re nominate. So we will have in

41:20

Tuesday's episode, hopefully, Victoria, at least

41:22

Victoria's re nomination. So it seemed a

41:24

lot of back and forth in the

41:27

scuttlebutt of, you know, Big Brother Canada,

41:29

Twitter, as sort of like, small as

41:31

it is about whether or

41:33

not this was the right decision for

41:35

her to make, especially considering what befell

41:37

Avery and Kayla thereafter. Kirsten, where do

41:40

you stand? I

41:42

think it would have been more interesting for

41:45

her to make a nomination. But it is

41:47

it's also tricky knowing that toll is going

41:49

to be the next one coming in. Maybe

41:51

you don't want to hold a deciding who

41:53

the HOH is more than you want. Then

41:56

you don't want him deciding a nominee. I don't

41:58

know. So you end up

42:01

in a world where if Bailey decided

42:03

like just to play it out and it's also

42:05

so interesting Of course the fact that they know

42:07

who's going in next after them Like suppose there

42:09

was somehow that this worked where they didn't know

42:11

who was next and Bailey just has to you

42:13

know blindly decide What role but like not

42:15

knowing that's always the next one to come in again There's

42:17

so many layers that if they tweaked it and this or

42:19

that direction that it could just be even crazier But knowing

42:22

the information that she knows suppose she puts up a

42:24

nominee and I think I don't know Tola is probably

42:26

the number one person that she would say, you know,

42:28

this person's not great for my game Let me put him

42:30

on the board She well

42:32

so Tola can't put himself as

42:35

the hoh when he goes in there next right the next

42:37

thing closest person to him If he feels good with Todd,

42:39

let's say he decides that he's gonna put Todd on the

42:41

board there Then oh, no,

42:43

I think he definitely put Anthony up there. I

42:45

really that's probably what she's assuming, right? Probably

42:48

I mean it's good for how many weeks were they

42:50

talking about? Oh, we have to take Tola out because

42:52

it weakens Anthony like it's not the production of you

42:54

at this point Perception but

42:56

I would say it's still just like I

42:58

don't know how much like a gravity that

43:00

conversation had with Todd and Tola I'm like how good

43:02

they felt with each other coming out of that of

43:04

like Anthony still does seem like he's working with spicy

43:06

to an extent even though she's So,

43:10

I don't know but either way so if Anthony

43:12

or Todd and then that hoh seat It's

43:14

probably not going to be a good Vrena for

43:16

what Bailey wants So suppose you Bailey puts Tola

43:18

on the block then Todd is going to then

43:20

come in after Tola and who's Todd gonna put

43:22

up? Like having that

43:25

power of hoh in Anthony or Todd's hands

43:27

Whoever it is that Bailey will

43:29

not have like Bailey would have some control if it

43:31

was Todd But if Anthony she doesn't have control and

43:33

then so I get where she's coming from by saying

43:36

let me put in like the next most

43:38

powerful position somebody that I trust because if

43:41

We have the worst case scenario play out which she

43:43

did of the two nominees end up being two people

43:46

that she's working very closely well, there's a chance that

43:48

one of them comes down and The

43:51

next most powerful person the only person left that

43:53

is going to have power to put somebody on

43:55

the nomination block in this game Should be somebody

43:57

that I trust so I get it

44:00

But I still I still could see it going

44:02

in other ways. No, do you think Matt? What

44:06

if she had picked either? Kayla

44:08

or Avery as a to h instead of

44:13

Like insulated well, we should point this out

44:15

actually Avery was not allowed to be a

44:17

to h it was part of the car

44:19

Yeah, but she was not allowed to nominate

44:22

the outgoing a to h is a to

44:24

h again And Bailey said they

44:26

specifically said right that she wanted spicy Avery

44:28

or Todd safe She didn't even mention Kayla makes

44:30

sense because Avery kept her safe this week

44:32

feeling good with the women But like specifically

44:34

spicy spicy is like her number two aside from

44:37

Todd You know you can go back and

44:39

forth of which one Bailey would be more loyal

44:41

to at this point Bailey has Bailey Victoria

44:44

is a good job of keeping Bailey so close

44:46

and like saving Bailey from like the brink of

44:48

death after Donna went home and Bailey

44:50

was brought into that side. So if

44:53

she doesn't go V I mean

44:55

she would have gone Todd Yeah,

44:58

true. Yeah, so it's tough like I do

45:00

think on paper if you are the first to go I

45:03

feel like the majority of the time your decision should be

45:05

like lock in one of the two nominees

45:07

like yes There's a chance they could come off But

45:09

like that is you sort of serving as an h

45:11

o h in your own way, even though you will

45:13

not be h o h But again what makes this

45:15

game so much fun is thinking about

45:17

the decisions thereafter Where if I'm

45:19

Bailey and I knock in

45:21

one of the nominees I would imagine that

45:23

like, okay Todd probably I mean Tola probably

45:26

either locks in a girl as either a

45:28

nominee or Very crucially

45:30

no eviction vote because

45:32

let's also look at this situation, right? The

45:34

house as we saw it was cleanly

45:36

divided in two It takes

45:39

four votes to evict and I think

45:41

another reason why a raise a little

45:43

bit up a creek right now is

45:45

because Victoria can't vote and goose can't

45:47

vote and so four is the

45:50

magic number That's all you need and

45:52

so if you have like a

45:54

Todd Tola one-two punch of putting a

45:56

girl as a nominee and a no

45:58

eviction vote or hell if Todd decides to

46:00

stick loyal to Bayley and like does something

46:02

else entirely and then Lexus comes in

46:05

who has become very recently scorned by

46:07

the women and decides to give a

46:09

girl either a nominee or a no

46:11

eviction vote. That's it.

46:13

Game over. You have to hope

46:16

for a veto and a Hail Mary like an

46:18

Anthony backdoor as we're about to get into. So

46:20

ironically enough, it did feel like the

46:22

safer thing to do even though it did

46:24

end up resulting in two of her allies going

46:26

up on the block. Even

46:29

as we're talking through all of this, it's like

46:31

you're trying to like, look, what

46:34

is she going to have decided after all this is said and

46:36

done? And the fact that, you know,

46:38

where these roles ended up of Elijah being the one that

46:40

can't vote and like the

46:42

four votes would then would then become

46:45

three goose is not on the

46:47

block, right? There would be

46:49

one less vote. The

46:52

votes are the same and he

46:54

doesn't have a vote anyway. But if somebody that does have

46:56

a vote ends up on the block, am

46:59

I doing the math wrong? Like, does

47:01

that then become three votes plus Victoria

47:03

then carry the day? Right.

47:05

So then it would be it's six people voting. But

47:08

if goose is part of those six and doesn't vote,

47:11

then it's five. So all you need is three votes.

47:14

And then, oh my God. Well,

47:17

okay. And then I now

47:19

that we're really talking through it,

47:21

so Bailey stayed in that disgusting

47:23

box holding up the jar of

47:25

blood for so long. And

47:28

she just gets to pick first. Is

47:31

that even that much power

47:33

really? Yes. Only

47:35

in the sense that, well,

47:38

okay, being very results oriented if she had

47:40

not like if she was out in the

47:42

top couple of picks before is

47:45

out, told us putting her up as a nominee. So

47:48

yeah, but like it ended up

47:50

working out for her. But that's very results oriented. Like it's

47:53

like she's fine. But I

47:55

don't know that this is a power equivalent to

47:57

winning a competition like that. fair.

48:00

Be ahead of households, right? So like, I'm

48:02

trying to think how could they change

48:04

things. I think it would be almost

48:08

more interesting if it was like, okay,

48:11

the first person, the last person out can set

48:13

up the whole board and then the next person

48:15

could go in and like, make

48:17

however many swaps and then at the end, Bailey gets

48:19

to go in and like make

48:21

three swaps or something. Then that gives her

48:24

power way more than just making one pick

48:26

at the start. I guess it's

48:28

this idea right up. It's a massacre asterisk.

48:30

No one is safe that they feel like

48:33

becoming the only guaranteed person safe is like

48:35

the ultimate moniker even though again, they're about

48:37

to make another person safe immediately in her

48:40

choice in Victoria. I mean, I think honestly

48:42

sort of do what they did with the

48:44

safety chain and just like make the competition

48:46

winner the sort of like prototypical head of

48:49

household and just have them pick

48:51

from there. But also, Bailey is able

48:53

to benefit from the fact that she kind of wipes

48:55

her hands quite literally clean of the whole situation as

48:57

much as she wouldn't want to lose somebody. She could

48:59

just be like, great, it wasn't my picks.

49:02

I just made Victoria HOH and the rest of history.

49:04

Hell, I gained her HOH and she makes the

49:06

renom. She gets to play next week, which is good.

49:08

But I like what you're saying, Kirsten, about

49:10

like how Bailey should have had last say

49:12

as to what went on here. Just imagine

49:15

that everybody else gets to go in before

49:17

her. You're probably looking at a world where

49:19

everybody just goes in and changes the nominees

49:21

to whatever they want. And then like all

49:23

of the other roles kind of stay the

49:25

same or they're changing their nominee or HOH.

49:27

But again, her going in last and having

49:30

the power to then change whatever she sees

49:32

the board as and whatever's the most important

49:34

to her to change, whether that's taking Kayla

49:36

or Avery down or changing the HOH to

49:38

something more preferred. It would have been

49:40

more beneficial, a more important power for

49:43

what she's won. I think like

49:45

I'm picturing it and this is just

49:47

like very, very loose brainstorm. So it

49:49

might just be like a crazy idea. But that's what

49:51

we're doing on Big Brother Canada now. So like, let's

49:53

talk about a crazy idea. So okay,

49:55

let's say like, I guess.

50:00

Kayla can't go in at all, okay? Avery's the

50:02

first to go in or whatever. Avery goes in

50:05

and she can set up the whole board, but

50:07

then the next person will go in, which

50:10

I guess was Goose. I can't remember the

50:12

order that well. So they can switch, like

50:14

they can make two swaps. Then

50:16

the next person goes in, they can make two

50:19

swaps, but they can't swap the category that the

50:21

last person swapped. Like if Goose swaps noms, you

50:23

can't swap noms. That kind of vibe. And

50:25

then it goes on at the end. And then they're

50:27

coming out like, the office game Yankee swap, right? Oh,

50:30

you can't pick the gift that was just swapped, but

50:32

you have to make this other swap. But then Bailey

50:34

can come in at the end and she can make

50:36

like three switches and she can change anything

50:38

she wants or something like that to make

50:40

it quite powerful. Also then

50:42

this would have taken seven episodes for them

50:44

to get if they had to go through

50:46

with. I mean, this is why it would be

50:49

its own show. Yeah,

50:52

but it's also like they could edit the

50:54

show differently and they could, like if they

50:56

hadn't bait and switched us and

50:59

told us that it was an eviction, it

51:01

wouldn't be so annoying that it wasn't. Like

51:03

they really advertise it and made it seem

51:06

like someone was going home in this episode

51:08

and then no one went, like, just

51:11

be honest with us and they give us appropriate

51:13

expectations and then we won't be let down, you

51:15

know? All right, well,

51:17

let's move into our next pick here. And

51:19

it is indeed Tola. And

51:22

this is where he's gonna take advantage,

51:24

right? He finally has that bit of power

51:26

as close as he's gone to being in the

51:28

head of household. And so he is going to

51:31

strike. And he really wavers between, okay, do I

51:33

take the shot at Kayla? Or

51:35

since I know Todd's going right after me, do

51:37

I lock in the pawn in Avery and

51:39

just assume that Todd will put up Kayla?

51:42

I think he was totally right to put

51:44

up Kayla. Yes, I think he's going to

51:46

obviously earn her wrath next episode, because

51:48

I could also imagine Todd is totally gonna fess up

51:50

and be like, oh no, when I came in, your

51:52

name was already up there. But

51:55

I do think that if you're

51:57

Tola, yes, Todd has communicated his

51:59

big plan. but like, considering

52:01

your game up to this point, how much can

52:03

you trust that? They've been gunning

52:05

for you, as you both talked about before,

52:07

like, how much more blood are

52:10

you getting on your hands concerning how many times

52:12

you've been targeted by her alliance by just not

52:14

outright targeting her? Yeah,

52:17

no, I'm like... Oh, no, go

52:19

ahead. Okay, you're good. Okay,

52:22

I feel like something that we're often

52:24

criticizing is when people do get power

52:26

in Big Brother, and they don't

52:30

put up people that they're fine with. Like, even

52:32

if you're putting up a pawn, you should never

52:34

nominate someone who you're not totally fine with them leading

52:36

the house, right? And so I really respect going

52:38

in and being like, nope, you know what? I'm

52:41

not, you know, dancing around it.

52:43

I'm just putting up exactly who my target is,

52:45

period. Let's move on. It's gonna be fine. Yeah,

52:48

I think Tola and Todd, you can't take any in

52:50

with the way they decide to go about this, because

52:53

they're the two ones that had this plan of

52:55

like, let's go for Kayla next. The

52:58

only way to ensure that Kayla would go home

53:01

for sure is, you know, on the block against

53:03

one of her closest allies. Victoria's

53:05

not an option at this point. Avery makes the most sense. So

53:07

Todd has to do what he has to do to

53:10

create, obviously, a rift because Avery

53:12

did all of this. Victoria did

53:14

all of this, like, saving him with the crazy veto

53:16

a couple weeks ago. Avery did not

53:19

put Todd on the block when she very well

53:21

could have, and instead blindsided Nat, somebody who she

53:23

felt good with. So there's going to be a

53:25

lot that goes down in the next episode of

53:27

trying to piece together with what gets

53:29

found out that he's the one that put Avery's name

53:31

up there. She is not going to be very happy,

53:33

and that's going to definitely even shift the house going

53:35

forward of who Avery might have been targeting otherwise. But

53:38

again, to go back to it, Todd and Tola,

53:41

you can't take any issue with what they did. The fact

53:43

that they used the nominee spots and the fact of who

53:45

they used it on. I don't know who else I would

53:47

say that they should have used it on, unless you're somebody

53:49

who would argue that they should be going for Anthony. Because

53:52

of course, there's still always going to be the factor

53:54

of when do we take out Anthony? What's the right

53:56

time? But given how the game is going at the

53:58

moment where Anthony's number one. just got evicted

54:00

and this all-powerful group of the three

54:02

of them specifically plus Bailey, they're starting

54:05

to look like they're going to run

54:07

the game, you have to take shots.

54:10

What's so interesting as well about the structure of

54:12

this game is like Victoria was crowned

54:14

the HOH, but because she finished at a

54:17

much lower position, these two guys were basically

54:19

the HOH. They were the ones that made

54:21

the two nominations. And so that's what makes

54:23

it so interesting. And that's also what I

54:25

really like about this as well is that

54:27

as much as we don't want to necessarily

54:30

come down to competitions in a social strategy

54:32

game, I do like that it does benefit

54:34

competitors as well that like, okay,

54:36

these two guys are rewarded for

54:39

finishing higher by essentially getting the

54:41

right to make their nominations. And

54:43

we get, we're so screwed here as

54:46

audience members of Lexus not finishing above

54:48

Todd, because the people that went to

54:50

do nominations were Tola and

54:52

Lexus. Oh my God, would have loved

54:54

to see where Lexus lied after everything

54:56

just went on. If she would have put Avery

54:58

up as you know, a fellow hot chocolate member,

55:01

or if she would have stuck with the women

55:03

and done something else, the whole beginning of the

55:05

episode was will she turn on them? She's considering

55:07

it for sure. But she misses it

55:09

by one spot of having the power to do so. So

55:12

she ends up just a Tola playing the veto. Well,

55:14

Anthony, though, assumes that that might be the

55:16

case, which could be interesting, right? Like we

55:18

saw with Anthony's first HOH, how much random

55:21

rumors might factor into the way people think

55:23

about it if Anthony decides for whatever reason,

55:25

like, yeah, we're really gonna get this

55:27

narrative sort of that Lexus was the one to

55:29

take the first shot against hot chocolate instead of

55:31

me like, that could be really dangerous.

55:34

But like you said, Matt, so Lexus walks in,

55:36

she shocked that Kayla and Avery are nominated,

55:38

but it's probably also a little bit like

55:40

serves you right. And

55:42

she basically just picks Tola as a POV

55:44

player and says, Okay, I hope that Anthony

55:47

will pick me. And so Anthony

55:49

comes in here. And yeah, person, what did you

55:51

make of sort of him trying to backwards

55:53

reason what happened? And is that

55:56

something that these players should do

55:58

considering that these opinions

56:00

may not be informed whatsoever. Yeah,

56:03

I think that everybody going in should

56:06

and probably was trying to work it all

56:08

out, but I think that Anthony is just

56:11

the most successful at that type of

56:13

thinking right now. And so I

56:15

think that's why we saw it from his perspective as well. But

56:19

yeah, they should absolutely be trying to figure out what's going

56:21

on because any piece of information you can get in Big

56:23

Brother is useful, right?

56:26

And I don't know. I

56:28

think I also think he

56:30

made the right choice taking goose's vote away

56:32

and not spot. Well,

56:35

I think that I

56:38

was going to say, as far as Lexus knows, we're on

56:40

her decision at the moment. I think the

56:42

biggest thing that I take away from this is seeing. So

56:45

up until this point, we've not like out

56:47

of Lexus and Tola, but there's been enough

56:49

chatter of the like, I guess on the

56:51

drops or just in general of like, Lex,

56:54

Lexus doesn't dislike Tola. She doesn't feel bad

56:56

with him in the game. And

56:59

obviously, she's got these negative feelings towards hot chocolate

57:01

after they all just sent Matt home. So

57:03

seeing that she puts Tola in no competition

57:06

saying, if Tola or I end up winning

57:08

the veto, then she feels like the

57:10

nominations are going to be okay. And she's fine with

57:12

these two staying on the block because for

57:14

kind of obvious reasons at this point, but

57:16

Anthony was still an option to go up.

57:18

And I know she feels great with Anthony

57:20

after, you know, Anthony, Lexus and Matt were

57:22

like, you know, by the time that Matt

57:25

goes home. So just seeing that Lexus is after

57:27

the Matt eviction, we see that Lexus literally goes

57:29

up to Anthony is like, I'm so glad you're

57:31

here. Thank you. They had a whole

57:33

crisis the day that Matt was leaving. They were they

57:36

were sobbing in each other's arms, all three of

57:38

them. So Anthony and Anthony are going to work

57:40

together, you know, far as they for

57:42

the in the coming weeks. But again, Lexus

57:45

and Tola, I think is going to be a very

57:47

intriguing pairing going into whatever this

57:49

vote ends up being. If Tola ends up on

57:51

the block, is Lexus going to send

57:53

home Avery or Tola? And now it seems like it

57:55

could be either way. Yeah. What

57:57

did we make as we take like a little bit of a detour

57:59

from. the detour that was this game

58:01

structure about like where Lexus goes from

58:04

here because the women are trying

58:06

their best in Italy, right? They're giving the whole pump

58:08

up speech of like, he's gonna get

58:10

taken care of out there. We're gonna take care

58:12

of you in here. You're gonna see him and it's gonna

58:14

be the best day. But I

58:16

don't know, Kirsten, maybe just because I'm like an emotionally

58:18

petty son of a bitch. But like, how can you

58:20

not be like, what the hell

58:23

did you just do? Yeah, I think

58:25

that like, for Lexus, it's

58:28

fine. She wants to forgive, but she's not

58:30

going to forget. And if

58:32

they were so concerned about Lexus and the

58:34

voice, then maybe she should have been one

58:36

of the women targeted earlier in the season

58:38

over like, I don't know, Donna, if they

58:41

were so concerned about someone who

58:43

might not go straight with the girls

58:45

alliance, you know? Yeah,

58:47

Matt, what do you think? Like Lexus did a

58:49

fantastic job the past couple of days from my

58:51

perspective of not making overtly obvious with the rest

58:53

of the women that she's mad about what's happening.

58:56

Like she was very obviously upset, but not once

58:58

that I ever see her in a conversation of

59:00

even like, really pushing too hard because she knew

59:02

what they were going to do. Maybe in the

59:04

back of her mind, she knew it was better

59:06

that this happened now than her having to do

59:09

it later. Like, when going

59:11

like, had to

59:13

happen at some point. And she

59:15

again, she put on a good front of like,

59:17

I'm not devastated by this. And if she turns on

59:20

them, it's not very obvious that it's going to happen

59:22

to them. And then as far as Victoria goes with

59:24

all of this, she's been doing this all season. She

59:26

the way that she comforts people in times of like,

59:28

they're distressed, you've got girl like Canada is going to

59:31

love you, you're the move is going to be

59:33

great and legendary. And you're going to be so good

59:35

without Matt in this game, you're going to win and

59:37

then he's going to sweep you up and propose to

59:39

you on finale night. And girl, you're going to

59:42

be the player of the season like she does

59:44

this whole song and dance with everybody to make

59:46

them feel better. And from our perspective, it's just

59:48

so obvious how fake it is. But like, I don't know

59:50

what they're, you know, what they're thinking. It's, it's

59:52

a lot. Yeah, like we also have

59:54

the internet and a bird's eye view. So

59:57

it's a little different, obviously for them.

1:00:00

It's the same as like I feel like a lot of Anthony's pep

1:00:02

talks seem super canned, but they always

1:00:04

work. Yeah, they

1:00:06

both have obviously different styles of how they go

1:00:08

into this. Like Anthony will just pump you up

1:00:10

and be like, you're a legend, bro. Like you

1:00:12

got this. Like, but they're saying the same thing.

1:00:15

Oh, 100%. Yeah. And

1:00:17

I almost wonder if she's

1:00:20

like picking up on that from Anthony.

1:00:24

Because that's the vibe I'm getting it. Yeah. He's

1:00:26

like, we're going to make history. The two returnees come

1:00:28

back and they're going to let us get to the

1:00:31

end. So I would think she's definitely going to get

1:00:33

lost. Last out, we've got this. Right. It's like this

1:00:35

thing of like, you know, what works for the

1:00:37

does not work for me. Like you're trying to do

1:00:39

what I do to others and that can't work. And

1:00:42

it's also interesting to always watch like every

1:00:44

time you see Anthony handing out scripts

1:00:46

or, okay, here's what you're going to do. I

1:00:48

just find it so interesting because like, yes,

1:00:51

on the one hand, you're saying, oh my God, how

1:00:53

are these people actually buying it? But I feel like

1:00:55

in a game full of variables that is big brother,

1:00:57

especially early on, yes, sometimes you

1:00:59

want that backbone, right? Sometimes you want to

1:01:01

serve skeletal structure and granted, it's not coming

1:01:04

from an impartial party. But sometimes you do

1:01:06

need somebody being like, all right, here's

1:01:08

what you need to say. Running it through from A to

1:01:10

Z. Let's talk about Anthony

1:01:12

on that note, because I

1:01:14

really liked the decision that he

1:01:16

made here where it

1:01:19

was less so about him. He

1:01:21

wasn't left with a lot of options, right? The HOH

1:01:23

was decided. The two nominees were decided. So it's kind

1:01:25

of just left with the scraps. And

1:01:27

so it's less so for him about

1:01:30

the roles and it's more about

1:01:32

the people. And basically, he's

1:01:34

looking at those that are left and he's saying, okay,

1:01:37

who could work for me either as

1:01:39

a vote or as a possible player

1:01:41

in the competition to either change up the

1:01:44

structure if I don't want hot chocolate to

1:01:46

go or not if I do. And

1:01:49

so I do think Todd could have been

1:01:51

a good choice, right? As Todd vocalizes, like he

1:01:54

is not sure what Lexus will do to him

1:01:56

because he was one of the key pivotal swing

1:01:58

votes, at least what we see. saw that

1:02:00

sent Matt home. And so from that perspective, you could

1:02:03

be like, yeah, Todd, you're of no use to us.

1:02:05

Like you're not going to vote with me. You're always

1:02:07

going to vote against me. So let's take your vote

1:02:09

off the table. But as

1:02:11

he mentioned, like Elijah

1:02:14

ain't doing it in competitions, especially compared

1:02:16

to someone like Todd, who just came

1:02:18

in third place in the most

1:02:20

recent competition. And so as

1:02:22

a result, for the fifth

1:02:24

week in a row, I believe Elijah will

1:02:27

not be voting on eviction night. And

1:02:30

unfortunately, there is a

1:02:32

very good chance, in my opinion, that that

1:02:34

man will sit on the block once again, because

1:02:37

the easiest thing to do if you're a

1:02:39

Victorian, I think we'll talk about like, what

1:02:41

her options are moving forward. But if

1:02:43

he's not going to vote anyway, he might as

1:02:45

well not vote as a nominee. Yeah,

1:02:48

very true. And it's also just like, even

1:02:52

when it's been an option to get

1:02:54

rid of goose, people say like, well,

1:02:56

we're going to have goose like, huh,

1:02:58

he just is kind of irrelevant. I

1:03:02

think in talking through this, I'm now thinking Lexus

1:03:04

made a mistake in what she decided to put

1:03:07

on the board putting Tola on veto, because I

1:03:09

didn't even cross my mind until now that whoever

1:03:12

go like, it's like you're like plugging the holes

1:03:14

of the board of like where it could be to

1:03:16

sound disastrous for your game. And the nominee spots

1:03:18

are already taken, you need to make sure that somebody

1:03:20

else didn't put your name in that no vote

1:03:22

spot. You need to make sure you have the

1:03:25

power to vote. And Lexus going in there

1:03:27

and not filling that spot means that anybody could go

1:03:29

in there next and put Lexus's name on the board

1:03:32

in that no vote spot. And suddenly, she has no

1:03:34

say in what happens this week, unless she wins the

1:03:36

veto, but even still, you're not gonna have a vote.

1:03:38

So that seemed again, like the most important hole that

1:03:40

needed to be plugged at that point. I think Anthony,

1:03:43

you know, is filling it with goose

1:03:45

for a reason, as he explains, and as Mike, you were talking

1:03:47

about, but at the very least, I think

1:03:49

like, by far and away, like he needed to put somebody

1:03:51

on the board in that spot to just make sure he

1:03:53

was good. Well, I think also what

1:03:55

it ends up setting up whether consciously or

1:03:57

not is like, okay, here's your Reno.

1:04:00

Because again, what

1:04:02

use is this person for not

1:04:04

voting? And especially when, okay,

1:04:06

there's a chance that the POV is going

1:04:09

to be used, here's someone to serve up

1:04:11

on a silver platter. And so from that

1:04:13

capacity, like, if you're looking at an

1:04:15

Anthony backdoor, I say like, make him that

1:04:17

no vote position, like sweeten the pot a

1:04:19

little bit by saying, well, he's not even

1:04:21

going to vote, you might as well throw

1:04:24

him up on the block and see what happens.

1:04:26

But again, they didn't have necessarily the foresight to

1:04:28

look ahead with that move. But as we'll talk

1:04:30

about what Victoria is going to do with this

1:04:32

real mom, I think probably the

1:04:35

leader in the clubhouse is going to

1:04:37

be an Elijah Renom just because listen,

1:04:39

a man is a hoot or a

1:04:41

hawk. But like, I don't know what

1:04:43

value he brings to an eviction night.

1:04:46

I see I think the big problem is

1:04:48

we got kind of a preview of what's

1:04:50

to come. Again, it looks like he

1:04:52

is pitching back during Anthony. And

1:04:54

I think Victoria is going to tell Anthony that

1:04:57

goose said that and then Anthony is going to

1:04:59

convince Victoria to put goose up and goose will

1:05:01

go home for saying Anthony's name. I

1:05:04

thought goose at first as well. But again, as

1:05:06

we're all talking through this, it's the possibilities are

1:05:08

coming into my head of like, okay, well, why

1:05:10

would you put goose on the block goose is

1:05:12

already like powers been stripped from him this week.

1:05:14

He doesn't have a vote. He's not a player

1:05:16

in what's going to happen here. Victoria

1:05:19

has the opportunity to take that power away

1:05:21

from another person and put them in

1:05:23

a position where they're not going to be able to vote somebody

1:05:26

like a Tola. I mean, at this point, I think it's

1:05:28

going to become pretty clear to her that Tola and Todd

1:05:30

were the ones who put those nominations in place. Goose

1:05:34

not voting goose is already on their side. Essentially, they

1:05:36

pulled goose back over last week by saying, you know,

1:05:38

you're going to keep you you're safe. Like come back

1:05:40

over with us. We know you messed up the week

1:05:42

before, but like work with us. We still feel good

1:05:44

with you. So getting rid of him

1:05:46

in a spot where again, he already has no power

1:05:48

right now. When you have the opportunity

1:05:50

to put a Todd or Tola up where you

1:05:52

don't know where they're going to vote. I

1:05:55

think she has to do that. I think she has to. Yeah,

1:05:57

when you have to make sure sure

1:06:00

you have three bullets in the chamber. You have to have

1:06:02

those three votes. The thing though, Matt,

1:06:04

like what you're saying makes sense from

1:06:06

a strategic standpoint, but it's completely neglecting

1:06:08

the real life friendship of Dougie and

1:06:10

and Victoria and Goose saying

1:06:13

Anthony's name. And

1:06:16

she tells Anthony about that. He said

1:06:18

that, which I'm sure she will, because

1:06:21

she leaks information. Anthony is

1:06:23

going to do everything in his power to make

1:06:25

sure that Goose goes up and goes out because

1:06:27

he said Anthony's name. Goose has won an HOH

1:06:29

before. And he could win it again. And he's

1:06:31

talking about targeting Anthony. Anthony does

1:06:33

not have a tolerance for people saying his name.

1:06:36

And you're absolutely right about that. But Victoria

1:06:38

has already proved twice consecutively that she doesn't

1:06:40

care what Anthony has to say when she

1:06:42

used that veto, despite what Anthony wants her

1:06:44

to do. She she used

1:06:46

the veto anyway. She I think it's going

1:06:48

to be different, though, just because

1:06:50

he's saying Anthony's name as like target

1:06:53

him right now, let's backdoor him, which is

1:06:55

just a little different than like, oh,

1:06:57

well, we've got these two different auxiliary pieces

1:06:59

that we could nominate. I'm going to go

1:07:01

with the one I'd prefer over what Anthony

1:07:03

prefers, because I think Anthony and

1:07:06

we both do have the primary

1:07:09

objective of keeping both Anthony

1:07:11

and Victoria in the game. And so I just

1:07:13

think it's going to play out a little bit

1:07:15

differently than kind of the proxy wars that we've

1:07:17

been seeing. So a couple of things about

1:07:19

this. Hey, as I mentioned before,

1:07:22

remember, Avery is one of Victoria's

1:07:24

closest allies. She has to

1:07:26

make sure this is a shot to

1:07:28

kill. And yes, it's only

1:07:30

three votes. But considering how divided

1:07:32

the house is, she needs

1:07:35

those three votes. And she knows that

1:07:37

she would have Bailey and Kayla. But

1:07:39

does she know she can have anybody else?

1:07:41

And so if she takes the shot

1:07:43

against Anthony, she has to make

1:07:45

sure she has one of Todd or Alexis.

1:07:47

Oh, I put against any on the block.

1:07:50

Yeah. Well, there's no no world. She's never

1:07:52

going to do that. That's not happening. I

1:07:54

mean, should she? Probably. That's

1:07:58

just also like to me, that's just. in

1:08:00

the realm of things that are never going to

1:08:02

happen. Yeah, no, I think more realistically, she

1:08:04

continues to try to, and this is, I'm

1:08:07

kind of feeling myself firmly land on this side

1:08:09

of, I think even though she just shipped away

1:08:11

at one of Anthony's pieces, I feel like she

1:08:13

has the chance to do it again, and she's

1:08:15

playing so bloodthirsty for herself, like she has been

1:08:17

for weeks now. I feel like she does again.

1:08:19

I think she takes a shot at Tola thinking

1:08:22

that, you know, Todd's still with Bailey, Tola's still

1:08:24

an Anthony piece, and she has to at that

1:08:26

point, so the votes, like you said, Mike, Kayla

1:08:30

and Bailey locked to keep Avery.

1:08:33

This is again, Victoria's closest

1:08:35

ally in the house, is Avery that's on the

1:08:37

block, and if she makes the wrong call here,

1:08:39

that Avery goes home. Do you remember how Bailey

1:08:42

was desperately trying to save herself and

1:08:44

convinced Victoria to make a move other than

1:08:46

the one she was gonna make that Anthony

1:08:48

wanted to make, and she ended up listening

1:08:50

to Bailey, making the correct move, keeping Bailey

1:08:52

in the house. So we're in the exact

1:08:54

kind of position of, if I put the

1:08:56

wrong person up, my number one Avery is

1:08:58

about to go home. So

1:09:00

that third vote would have to come from either, wait,

1:09:03

no, so yeah, five votes. Anthony, Todd, or

1:09:05

Lexus would then need to vote for

1:09:08

Tola to go over Avery. It's gonna be

1:09:10

tough. Yeah, the other thing

1:09:12

is we have to look to

1:09:15

the optics of the jury. Now it hasn't

1:09:17

been confirmed yet, maybe because we haven't gotten

1:09:19

a formal eviction, but our assumption is we

1:09:22

are in nine people, we're gonna get a

1:09:24

jury of seven and a final two. Victoria

1:09:26

was the first member of the jury in

1:09:28

her season. She knows better than everybody, like

1:09:31

the message that you send to

1:09:33

the jury. And also look at

1:09:35

the fact of, yes, the

1:09:37

past couple of weeks has been Victoria,

1:09:40

Avery, and Kayla undermining Anthony and Lexus

1:09:42

to a certain extent at every turn,

1:09:44

but they keep coming back being like,

1:09:47

yeah, but you know what, at the end of the day, I

1:09:49

didn't put you up. I'm still loyal to hot chocolate. There is

1:09:51

still this visage of no, we're

1:09:55

still sticking true to us. We

1:09:57

might chip away at any other options you may

1:09:59

have. But we're gonna stick loyal to each

1:10:01

other at the end of the day. If

1:10:04

Victoria is the one to draw

1:10:06

that first blood and nominate someone

1:10:08

like Lexus, for instance, and throw

1:10:10

them up, and they go, that's

1:10:12

gonna send a very bad message

1:10:14

about Victoria. That's going to say,

1:10:16

like, not only did you break

1:10:19

this alliance that could arguably be bigger than

1:10:21

the game, but you also broke an alliance

1:10:23

that, again, you said you had our backs

1:10:26

100%, and even though Spicy V

1:10:28

is a bit of the scorpion and the frog, it

1:10:31

would be a really tough thing to,

1:10:33

I think, endanger her chances of winning

1:10:35

almost immediately. So I agree,

1:10:37

it's a really tough calculus as to

1:10:40

what's the best option to keep Avery

1:10:43

safe? And from that capacity, I

1:10:45

think it's sort of the guy that really isn't

1:10:47

tight with anybody. You put up someone like Goose,

1:10:50

they just betrayed the Anthony and Tola and

1:10:52

Lexus side, and I think it's a little

1:10:54

bit of what our friend, Ross Sesser,

1:10:56

you know, did once upon a time with Kristy back

1:10:58

in the Amazon of, like, this guy's

1:11:01

going to both sides, he really doesn't stand for anything,

1:11:03

do we want to keep this guy in the game?

1:11:05

You could also argue, to use a big brother example,

1:11:07

this is the very argument that Maggie used with Howie

1:11:09

to put up James back in Season 6. And

1:11:13

despite me

1:11:16

thinking that Tola is the better option for her to

1:11:18

keep Avery in the house, I think certainly Goose is

1:11:20

the next most likely of what she could do. And

1:11:22

if she doesn't get persuaded in the correct direction,

1:11:25

again, based on what I'm reading to be her

1:11:27

best move here, then Goose goes up. She's

1:11:30

looking at a world where Todd and Tola are,

1:11:32

like, locked on sending out one of the two

1:11:34

women that are still left on the block in

1:11:36

Avery. She's banking on hot chocolate to then be

1:11:39

on her side and vote to send Goose home.

1:11:41

When that doesn't happen, then, Mike, almost she gets

1:11:43

the upper hand in what you're talking about of,

1:11:45

like, well, then they're breaking, you know, the pack. I

1:11:48

mean, they're not sending home, well, no, they are. They'd

1:11:50

be sending home Avery, and they're the ones that are

1:11:52

breaking hot chocolate. So she has that in her back

1:11:55

pocket going forward. I don't think she's by any means,

1:11:57

you know, screwed if Avery goes home. She has done

1:11:59

such a good job in this game of keeping. so

1:12:01

many people like close to her. So instead of having

1:12:03

Avery as number one, I think Kayla shifts to that

1:12:05

spot and Bailey becomes even more important than she already

1:12:07

is. So I mean, again, Victoria

1:12:09

has played very well with these connections. It'll be

1:12:11

so, I'm so, I wanna know, you know, what's

1:12:13

going on in there? What happens? Who

1:12:16

she realized? And the thing too is if Victoria wasn't,

1:12:19

like though here's the problem. She's

1:12:21

so bombastic, right? So like

1:12:23

Avery goes home, Victoria will

1:12:25

be going absolutely off

1:12:27

and is not able to play in the

1:12:30

next stage of age, right? If

1:12:32

she wasn't reactive in that way, I think she

1:12:34

could play kind of like a wounded puppy. Like,

1:12:37

oh, I've lost my number one. Like I'm nothing

1:12:39

to worry about. But I don't think she has,

1:12:42

I don't think she likes to act and she

1:12:44

likes to perform, but I think she likes to

1:12:46

be powerful in a way that that

1:12:49

would not be, you know? Yeah, she can't be

1:12:51

like Dan Geeseling after Brian and Stephen went out. Exactly.

1:12:53

Just kind of like lying low for a couple of

1:12:55

weeks that people forget about. Because usually

1:12:57

almost always in the social strategy games, it

1:12:59

is always the half measure, right? It's like, oh,

1:13:01

we took out this person's closest ally. They're

1:13:03

fine. They've got nobody. We don't need to worry about

1:13:05

them for a long time. And as a result, they

1:13:07

make their way to the end. But to your point,

1:13:09

Kirsten, like Victoria love her, but

1:13:11

she cannot leave well enough alone. She's

1:13:14

not Dan after Brian goes home.

1:13:16

She's Dan after the 24 hours

1:13:18

of solitary confinement. And

1:13:21

if we have Victoria's funeral, I'm on

1:13:23

board. There is one more decision

1:13:25

that we should talk about. It's my new

1:13:27

one, but still interesting to sort of end

1:13:29

the chain of actual choices that happen, which

1:13:32

is Victoria. So she is left again with

1:13:34

only a couple options. Basically she has to

1:13:36

deem between Lexus, Todd and Anthony, who

1:13:38

is guaranteed to play in the POV and who's

1:13:40

going to take the slot pass. She

1:13:43

says that she's gonna give Anthony the slot pass as

1:13:45

sort of like a form of repayment. I agree.

1:13:47

I think especially for a returning player, like it's

1:13:50

basically worth a hill of beans at that point, which they

1:13:52

can eat because they're not going to be and

1:13:54

they have not. I mean, again, if Victoria

1:13:56

is really trying to press Anthony here, throw

1:13:59

Him in the POV. The and see what happens if he

1:14:01

wins that because there are two members of Hot Chocolate up

1:14:03

on the block. their. Yeah. To

1:14:05

that point the only people that are left, right

1:14:08

or left are taught him Lexus. So I mean.

1:14:11

Was. A what's the difference at that point? Like

1:14:13

she's either giving Todd a flop ass or Lexus

1:14:15

she could give us. Alexis is the a hey

1:14:18

sorry girl we voted out your man but like

1:14:20

ah yau years know slot for the rest of

1:14:22

the way through. But I do feel like maybe

1:14:24

just a her Knowing Anthony on a personal level

1:14:27

knows that he would much rather have no slot

1:14:29

for the rest of the season that a chance

1:14:31

to play Legacy. She's literally just trying to show

1:14:33

a sign of friendship or she can sets. Are

1:14:37

right. So we go to our final

1:14:39

couple formalities right to set dressing. I'm

1:14:41

having a very timid. And make. The.

1:14:44

Choice that ultimately doesn't matter, just kind of setting

1:14:46

deck chairs on the Titanic. I did like allies

1:14:48

are going in and. Reacted. In

1:14:50

a real time to basically like you can follow

1:14:52

where his eyes were going on the bork answering

1:14:54

like. The first things he saw was

1:14:56

like oh this is my god Oh crap

1:14:58

what happens? Add on the inside out. Yeah.

1:15:01

He was excited and then he was scared and. Then

1:15:03

he was excited and scared that he

1:15:05

just sort of I said say lobby

1:15:07

upon having no objection about once again

1:15:09

but. We. Guess you know, Walrus.

1:15:11

I've been running through the roles again physically.

1:15:14

just have like Taylor react. In. The

1:15:16

moment rights as length rule like the even

1:15:18

swamp, the order of killer and every being

1:15:20

revealed. They sewed Avery first while the whole

1:15:23

thing is so cinematic because kill as crying

1:15:25

says to straws and then they so every

1:15:27

on the block before Taylor where we know

1:15:29

that it kills coming next but only done

1:15:31

brutal. Yeah. I mean I guess

1:15:33

there is a p all right person in like okay

1:15:36

now daily gets to see what happened afterwards. The other

1:15:38

thing that is interested by as like. I

1:15:40

imagine they couldn't. Explicitly say what

1:15:42

they did, buy it like.

1:15:44

People are certainly saying things

1:15:46

right. They were sitting down

1:15:48

say. You. Won't believe

1:15:51

what's in there are so I guess maybe

1:15:53

they were led to build stuff up even

1:15:55

though they couldn't exactly say what happens of

1:15:57

ruin the surprise. See. I

1:15:59

was. The are you like most

1:16:01

evil just stayed pretty Why yet

1:16:03

other reason kind of like wow.

1:16:06

As I see like it wasn't until the

1:16:08

Tory A came out that she was like

1:16:10

what happens like I'm here. Yeah.

1:16:13

the everything that like are cut through colors been

1:16:15

shown i think as as as a really bad.

1:16:17

We don't Sorry. I thought it was a

1:16:20

stupid thing to say. It is. it's like

1:16:22

yeah. You can make your best guesses as

1:16:24

to who cast whom and what role the

1:16:26

like. We. Actually,

1:16:28

Know anybody? True colors a very good

1:16:30

you know for sure who. Who.

1:16:32

Nominee to do so let like was

1:16:34

still a little. Bit. You.

1:16:37

Were to see a Two Words: You're part of

1:16:39

this very powerful group that seems again to be

1:16:41

running the house. It's

1:16:44

like dollars to her gaze. Yeah,

1:16:47

and agonists. That's my love about the steering system

1:16:49

that I think. What? Hopefully and episode

1:16:51

plus I'm probably built out of his like

1:16:53

everyone whispering to each other. Okay what did

1:16:55

you see on the board when you came

1:16:58

in and like seeing how the purposeful miscommunications

1:17:00

are going to happen? It's very or something

1:17:02

like mafia or blood on the Clock tower

1:17:04

were like everyone has a specific role for

1:17:06

you can lie about what your role is,

1:17:09

disenchanted others and it just. says.

1:17:11

The entire chain apart. Again, I think the

1:17:13

two aspects. As. Much as you want a

1:17:15

vote to be secret was probably my favorite part of this

1:17:17

was it was almost like something out of the genius words

1:17:19

like. I. Am lined up to do this

1:17:21

thing and knowing who's behind me. I'm gonna make

1:17:23

this move specifically because of that. It was. A.

1:17:26

Really fun aspect that. Ultimately leads to.

1:17:28

A big brother as situation before he has

1:17:31

the a to wage tail in a very

1:17:33

or the nominees and they jump a meet

1:17:35

at least. Into. A power of

1:17:37

veto? That's like. Fine.

1:17:39

It's. Three three glasses of Clinical

1:17:41

Blida. On Martha combination lock and

1:17:43

solve a puzzle for the last third of

1:17:46

a survivor that Allen's usually. Sides.

1:17:48

Hugging is like a big navy

1:17:50

and then sell oh really is

1:17:52

sad. It's

1:17:55

a billion people years and during their drinks as as

1:17:57

they see as a whole thing. They

1:17:59

went all out. With this whole episode ended, such a

1:18:01

good job seeming wiser than they were. Like here's a

1:18:03

block puzzle. Galaxy.

1:18:06

Out of there are also found among us and

1:18:08

was it it sort of have torture spider we

1:18:10

have the spice more like over the spice I

1:18:12

mean okay go audio a small bus but i

1:18:15

don't know like we're already doing so much like

1:18:17

even though the blood drinks like okay we're keeping

1:18:19

the seeming going but than system colored blocks. Away.

1:18:26

I. Don't know. I think in this thought they

1:18:28

were always gonna do something like this are like

1:18:31

similar to how double or triple A they'd send

1:18:33

the those play outwards like you run back and

1:18:35

forth and you collect the thing so it's like

1:18:37

this is better than running back and forth. I'll

1:18:39

take a. More than a little longer competition

1:18:42

the with the three minutes they had to

1:18:44

show us the whole competition. Yeah.

1:18:47

Was her got goose? You'll sell their

1:18:49

me and a tail and of when

1:18:51

I get even though tell us. Certainly

1:18:53

trying his best. I also were very

1:18:55

sure that was implied in the glasses

1:18:57

might. Otherwise, these people are like steel

1:18:59

will day after. They can just down

1:19:01

it no problem. Is

1:19:04

it was real blind? Ah, there's

1:19:06

some sort of like an occupational

1:19:08

health and Safety rule against I

1:19:10

Am Survivor. Africa they got it. showed cow's

1:19:12

blood straight from the cow. That

1:19:15

is true, that was also very

1:19:17

different times, when was it was

1:19:19

different and I think that there

1:19:21

was probably like. Some. Corn

1:19:23

starch and food coloring in the waters

1:19:26

was probably like a little bit thanks

1:19:28

we and it was probably really sweet.

1:19:30

Normally state blood is extremely. Sweet Missed

1:19:32

opportunity to have Godfrey host. The

1:19:35

his death access in that I'm not going. On

1:19:38

someone's hands, The. Advent of thing like

1:19:40

who would have been a. Good alumni to step in

1:19:42

and temporarily make an appearance. Starting to be

1:19:45

no competition. Will I mean the

1:19:47

you have to think about what woods aspect of

1:19:49

the competition because of it's about. Tagging.

1:19:51

Drank like Don party. Or

1:19:55

like a mad when he like add down those glasses

1:19:57

and I yelled. On mail is it was three glasses

1:19:59

of milk you and. Have to be Mm. Per share

1:20:01

her. He. Has the most authentic like I.

1:20:03

Don't think there's any movie affiliated.

1:20:05

A. Canadian. Alumni right?

1:20:07

Like I just they get mad see also and

1:20:09

driver like Eden would have been a perfect house

1:20:12

for this of this had an equivalent in Australian

1:20:14

Survivor. Avoid it because it's like there are.

1:20:16

You know big brother came as a

1:20:18

contestants are are actors but none of

1:20:21

them are like huge yes lake city

1:20:23

from season sad and as monthly going

1:20:25

on distance and showing up on netflix

1:20:27

shows the lake. Not.

1:20:30

As a level where it what were the audience

1:20:32

a big brother Canada would immediately know why she

1:20:34

was the one housing. You know what I

1:20:36

mean. I will also say on that note

1:20:38

something I really appreciated about this episode was.

1:20:41

Very. Limited use of confessionals like

1:20:43

once we got passed through the normal

1:20:45

see posted pics and stuff and we

1:20:47

got into the massacre itself. Know.

1:20:50

Confessionals almost made to play out in

1:20:52

like quote unquote real time so I

1:20:54

match almost double of it's installed. Probably get

1:20:56

a lot of confessionals next episode. In

1:20:58

retrospect, been like. For. This is why

1:21:00

I picked this. The may be selling some flashbacks

1:21:02

they are but that was a little surprised that

1:21:05

you know zebra the Canada even at it's Cervix

1:21:07

and shows. Obviously I was. Happily.

1:21:09

Surprised or sick is in the way big

1:21:11

Brother confessionals usually go, even in Canada that

1:21:13

we didn't really get any talking heads this

1:21:15

episode. Yeah. And I think that's definitely what

1:21:17

the to the episode is of just the postal

1:21:19

votes and play out of what happened next and

1:21:22

as as for why would they have the of

1:21:24

the since shown on Tuesdays you would think that

1:21:26

like they're going to show it on Wednesday at

1:21:28

this point and hopefully like if we don't have

1:21:30

any choice by the end of wins this episode

1:21:32

lemmings as even we off to somebody i'm just

1:21:34

silly gulag you all know what are we doing

1:21:36

like to push through this we could result was

1:21:38

gonna be all in one episode which to be

1:21:40

fair it's not like I had any idea what

1:21:42

was going to happen in Tuesday and Wednesday after

1:21:44

this week. like I guess maybe it's. Very with

1:21:47

think they're just gonna do another cycle.

1:21:49

This was like a double vixen, but

1:21:51

this is essentially just one cycle. that

1:21:53

by the way all happened. I think

1:21:55

on last Tuesday night it is now

1:21:57

Sunday night and this in series all

1:21:59

happened on. Tuesday night unless the time

1:22:01

I must be like shoes that I will

1:22:03

so. They went to bed. So the maybe

1:22:05

this happened nutley when I was in. College

1:22:08

in the morning and then calmly on the

1:22:11

night battling or but and during the day

1:22:13

and a movie at night massacre when two

1:22:15

thirds of your branding is a quotations, there

1:22:17

might be a problem just as a whole

1:22:20

Friday that the whole though friday we got

1:22:22

no se the whole Thursday up there it

1:22:24

was all astronaut left and then it ended

1:22:26

with the sirens going off so we didn't

1:22:29

see, we didn't see. Anything from like the

1:22:31

daytime Wednesday. this must have happened. I I guess

1:22:33

that day, spas. Whatever is going on in that

1:22:35

house. Thursday. Friday. Saturday. Sunday. Monday that I will

1:22:37

never know. My. Eyes, I think that

1:22:39

the last two events and have actually

1:22:41

been recorded on Tuesday and then really

1:22:43

the on Wednesday. Yeah, so league we

1:22:45

don't even says happened Wednesday days. And.

1:22:48

Nine minutes we've seen nothing.

1:22:50

And. And a potentially there

1:22:53

could be if two people either like in

1:22:55

a cabin in Moscow got or in a

1:22:57

hotel room waiting go home and we just

1:22:59

don't even know who they are. But this

1:23:01

episode seven aired. On the rest of

1:23:03

the season by now for all we know as as

1:23:05

as well hold on I was around. This area isn't

1:23:08

right. Really like earth. a sleepy and at all had

1:23:10

a time and I did live these. Laws.

1:23:13

Live. it's and there's and and the know

1:23:15

as actions aren't going to be live and

1:23:18

all this why not? Why don't they just

1:23:20

go film it over like African weekend and

1:23:22

then give us that this old when they're

1:23:24

ready to have them and whatever is additional

1:23:26

material they want to provide to it Because

1:23:29

it's like there's no point in being library

1:23:31

to. Read a story on the

1:23:33

Houston said not a beach see if you're we're done

1:23:35

we wrap son when got. Her. Covered in

1:23:37

her like requisite stuff,

1:23:39

Versailles you know and eighty are the people's

1:23:41

names and marathon. I'm going to coast of

1:23:43

a my time while you're do this movie

1:23:45

night massacre thing but. So. You

1:23:48

know will get at some point someone have bested

1:23:50

here because the I. Guess the big question is

1:23:52

if Tuesday night his. Veto. Ceremony

1:23:54

and Eviction. Are. they just doing

1:23:56

like a super condensed one hour episode on when

1:23:58

stay up like, and here was this other round

1:24:00

where someone went HOH and someone one veto and

1:24:02

then someone else went home? Who

1:24:04

knows? We might even get like on

1:24:07

the Tuesday episode, we might get like

1:24:09

the rest of this and then the start of

1:24:11

the next cycle. Yeah, we get like an HOH on Tuesday night and

1:24:14

then Wednesday's

1:24:17

the veto and eviction. I could see that possibly.

1:24:19

I mean if you want to speed

1:24:21

it up, then possibly, but it's

1:24:23

just very confusing. But they have to speed it

1:24:25

up. The show ends

1:24:27

in a month and there's

1:24:29

nine people in the house.

1:24:32

It was all about them condensing week one

1:24:34

and two. I know we don't love when

1:24:36

they do the first eviction in episode two

1:24:38

back-to-back, but looking back it's kind

1:24:40

of a necessary evil or we find ourselves

1:24:42

in this sort of Berenice knot right now.

1:24:45

Yeah, who knows? Well

1:24:48

congratulations to Kayla wins her second veto and

1:24:50

this time when she really freaking needed it

1:24:52

because I think safe to say had she

1:24:55

not won it, if either Avery won it

1:24:57

or someone else did, she was

1:24:59

as good as gone whether she realizes it or

1:25:01

not. I am intrigued to see how she is

1:25:04

going to approach this in particular because I do

1:25:06

think we've seen it in fits and

1:25:08

starts, but Kayla

1:25:10

has some spice to her as well for lack of a better

1:25:12

term. So I'm gonna really be intrigued to see

1:25:14

if she Rupert style goes like who the hell

1:25:16

nominated me and just go out from there. But

1:25:19

we've been speculating about this a little while

1:25:21

back that we assume that

1:25:23

Victoria would probably end up nominating

1:25:25

someone like Goose, maybe someone like

1:25:27

Tola, maybe not going for

1:25:29

necessarily the other options just for various

1:25:32

different reasons. What do

1:25:34

we think right now the votes would be? Let's say

1:25:36

it's Elijah and Avery. Do

1:25:38

we think Victoria and company are

1:25:40

able to get one of Todd,

1:25:42

Tola, and Anthony on board to evict

1:25:44

Goose over Avery? To evict

1:25:48

Goose. Well so it

1:25:50

really of course comes down

1:25:53

to hot chocolate. Also remember Victoria

1:25:55

only needs three because even if

1:25:57

Elijah doesn't vote she has the

1:25:59

tiebreaker. There's six

1:26:01

votes correct. Yeah, so they still need

1:26:03

the third vote. It's going to come

1:26:05

down. I mean, does

1:26:07

Todd stick with Bailey is a question and then

1:26:09

does hot chocolate stick together and say we're keeping

1:26:11

Avery in the house. I mean, at a certain

1:26:13

point, Anthony may decide it

1:26:16

just makes more sense for him to cut off

1:26:18

one of Victoria's numbers and she's doing a lot

1:26:20

of work to cut off his. She

1:26:22

wanted Tola to go that week. She obviously got

1:26:24

rid of Matt last week alongside Avery. So it

1:26:27

may make sense to do that. It's just this

1:26:30

next episode is going to be so

1:26:32

telling of how these conversations shake out. I mean,

1:26:34

Todd already kind of planted his flag as to

1:26:36

I am going to prioritize

1:26:38

like Tola and trying to get one of

1:26:41

these women out over anything else. So he

1:26:43

feels like a lost cause. Anthony

1:26:45

and Lexus are the question marks. Anything,

1:26:48

Kirsten? I

1:26:51

think that's right. I'd

1:26:54

like I can't even see another way for it

1:26:56

to play out. It's like I feel

1:26:58

so bad sitting on the fence. Like, well, it comes down to these

1:27:01

two. Like, what are they going to I don't know. I have no

1:27:03

idea like Avery and goose, which one

1:27:05

is better for let's say Anthony's game. If Anthony

1:27:07

could be that third vote or I mean

1:27:10

for Alexis to goose is

1:27:13

not looking out for the two of

1:27:15

them where they could still be convinced

1:27:17

that Avery does have hot chocolates best

1:27:19

interest in minds and Avery will continue

1:27:21

to go for like Bailey, Todd, Tola,

1:27:23

even if they don't necessarily believe that

1:27:25

they have a reason to potentially believe

1:27:27

it because of hot chocolate where what

1:27:30

are they keeping goose in the game for?

1:27:32

They already can kind of see that goose

1:27:34

was drifting to Victoria side anyway. I don't

1:27:36

know. It just seems

1:27:38

to me like I just think Elijah's

1:27:40

reputation up to this point is sort

1:27:42

of like, if you stand for

1:27:45

nothing, what will you fall for? Or even when

1:27:47

he was HOH, it went pretty

1:27:49

damn badly for him, considering

1:27:51

that like you could say, Oh, yeah, Alexis will

1:27:53

keep him. But then there was that entire thing

1:27:55

where like, she didn't use the veto when he

1:27:57

wanted her to use the veto because she got

1:27:59

her head turned around about like Matt

1:28:01

wanted to put up Kayla. So I

1:28:04

just feel like, and maybe again, I'm speaking out of

1:28:06

my butt because I'm not sure entirely like the relationship

1:28:08

that he's garnered. But I feel like looking

1:28:11

at even just these two most recent HLHs in Avery

1:28:14

and Goose, like what Avery was

1:28:16

able to accomplish, yes, it was a bit more of

1:28:18

a stab in the back maneuver, but I feel like

1:28:20

it was done sort of at and

1:28:22

with the support of so many people, as

1:28:25

opposed to Elijah, who I feel like, from

1:28:27

my perspective, kind of walked in and walked

1:28:29

out with the same number of allies. He's

1:28:33

the total, you know, not

1:28:35

to be super harsh, but like the total nothing, you know, in

1:28:38

the game, even when he won power,

1:28:40

they found a way for it to not be

1:28:42

important. And you know, for him to just continue

1:28:44

to be upon and everybody else's games going forward.

1:28:46

So at

1:28:48

a certain point, people will cut him just

1:28:50

in favor of an ally staying in the house,

1:28:52

which could be this week. But

1:28:55

again, it just comes down to if Anthony

1:28:58

and Lexus decide, you

1:29:00

know, I don't

1:29:02

know, Anthony, Todd, Tola and Goose, new

1:29:04

pretty boys? Question mark? Your

1:29:08

face is saying it all. I mean, I

1:29:10

guess we're where Anthony tries to reclaim power

1:29:13

within within this house, because lately he's been

1:29:15

losing a lot of it. I

1:29:17

do. I just think that I

1:29:20

think Anthony, it's like hard because Anthony sees

1:29:23

what he's losing a little

1:29:25

bit, but he doesn't. I like

1:29:28

I just don't think he was able to

1:29:30

fully grasp that it was Victoria's fault until

1:29:32

it was a little bit too late to

1:29:34

grasp like enough power to totally

1:29:37

abandon that ship. And he just tends

1:29:39

to such loyalty to his

1:29:41

real alliance. I think I

1:29:45

think it's just gonna be Anthony and Victoria continuing

1:29:48

to have like proxy wars, but I don't see either

1:29:50

of them actually going for the other really at any

1:29:52

point. The other thing is that something that the

1:29:55

pretty boys were able to do of the many

1:29:57

things to great effect was the fact that they

1:29:59

won. a great majority of the

1:30:01

competitions this season. Listen, Tola picked up

1:30:04

a veto and Todd certainly knows slouch

1:30:06

as they showed, but like, does

1:30:09

Anthony really want to hitch his wagons to these

1:30:11

people? Does he want to draw a line when it's

1:30:13

like, oh, but these guys probably

1:30:15

won't win HOH to protect me at the end

1:30:17

of the day. And that just leaves me exposed.

1:30:20

He's going to have to bet on himself a

1:30:22

lot more if he sets that up. That

1:30:25

being said, like I could see him still want

1:30:27

to keep options open because it does seem like

1:30:29

Tola and Todd are starting to ramp

1:30:31

up that competitive aspect a little bit. But

1:30:34

these competitions have also been fairly

1:30:36

good, especially compared to US and

1:30:38

like being pretty equal opportunists.

1:30:40

So there's still a very fair shot that

1:30:42

like, if you do that, a woman's

1:30:44

going to win HOH and now they have the biggest

1:30:47

excuse to put you up. I

1:30:49

think Lexus is going to follow Anthony's lead.

1:30:52

Is my best guess going into this next,

1:30:55

going into whatever this vote ends up being?

1:30:57

I think she sticks by him and what

1:30:59

he decides. He obviously has such a mind

1:31:01

for the game. And I think he'll impart

1:31:03

on her what he thinks their best move

1:31:05

collectively is. And she's still in such a

1:31:07

vulnerable spot having just lost Matt. Matt like

1:31:09

imparted very strongly, like stick with Anthony and

1:31:11

they're going to be together. So it really

1:31:13

just comes down for Anthony of, he

1:31:16

knows he has to chip away pieces at

1:31:18

Victoria side. Is this the

1:31:20

time to start doing so? And I really kind

1:31:22

of think it is. I think Goose

1:31:24

is again, such a

1:31:26

nothing piece and could be persuaded where

1:31:29

Avery is locked in alongside Victoria. So

1:31:31

I kind of feel like if it's

1:31:33

Goose that Avery might go. All

1:31:37

right, well. There's my thought. Yeah,

1:31:39

well. I just think if Anthony

1:31:41

hears a goose at his name, it's going to make

1:31:43

a big difference. I don't know. Well,

1:31:45

we'll see as all the fallout will

1:31:48

occur and there will be some sort

1:31:50

of eviction. Listen, the teaser

1:31:52

did have Arisa saying, I have the

1:31:54

results to find out who didn't survive the night. Now that

1:31:56

being said, one of the reasons why I think we kind

1:31:58

of set in our hands. for most of this

1:32:00

evening is because we kind of were led to believe

1:32:03

with the advertising that there would be an eviction tonight.

1:32:05

So who's to say, but hopefully

1:32:07

we'll have a lot more to talk about.

1:32:09

Regardless, I do think it's going down and

1:32:11

I would not be surprised that this is

1:32:13

something to shake up the game a little

1:32:15

bit. Either Avery is evicted and one of

1:32:17

the biggest, you know, tops of the hierarchy

1:32:19

now goes to the bottom or someone like

1:32:21

Goose is evicted but the leading

1:32:24

trio has now had a major shake up

1:32:26

to it. Todd and Tola have tried to

1:32:28

land a shot and ultimately ended up missing

1:32:30

after trying to work the middle and it

1:32:32

could set up a really interesting few weeks

1:32:34

to follow. Matt, Kirsten, anything

1:32:36

else from the two of you as we

1:32:39

wrap up Movie Night Madness here? Massacre. I

1:32:41

almost came up with a better name for

1:32:43

it. Hmm. I was more

1:32:45

madness than a massacre, wasn't it? No,

1:32:48

I'm just really excited to see what happens

1:32:50

next. I think a lot is going to

1:32:52

happen in the next month and it's just

1:32:55

how much of it are we actually going to be allowed to see

1:32:57

that it's going to dictate how exciting

1:32:59

it is. Yeah, this has been,

1:33:01

it's been good for what we've been able to see

1:33:03

of it. A couple of dailies

1:33:05

ago there was some Anthony versus Spicy V

1:33:07

and when you get two returnees in a

1:33:09

house, I mean, or any amount

1:33:12

of returnees in the house, the worst thing is when they're going

1:33:14

to stick together and, you know, try to work together towards the

1:33:16

end. These two, I think while they

1:33:18

still are not directly going to shoot at one

1:33:20

another, I do think that it's

1:33:22

very clear to one another that the other

1:33:24

does not have their best interest in mind,

1:33:26

whether it's just continuing to pick away at

1:33:29

each other's pieces all the way down to

1:33:31

however far we get down to. Eventually a shot

1:33:33

will be taken and a vote will be cast for

1:33:35

Anthony for Victoria to leave or vice versa. And I

1:33:38

think that, you know, over the next, again, over the

1:33:40

course of the next month, watching to

1:33:42

see how that finishes out is going to be

1:33:44

the most compelling part of all of this alongside

1:33:46

a couple of players that are still in the

1:33:49

house that are very worthwhile contenders for the crown.

1:33:51

So I'm intrigued. The

1:33:53

fact that we probably will not have dailies over the

1:33:55

next couple of days is very annoying. But as I

1:33:57

tweeted, if we're still watching this show and following along,

1:33:59

we're doing this to ourselves and we know

1:34:01

what pain we're inflicting upon ourselves. So I

1:34:03

can't even be frustrated at

1:34:06

this point. I do anything myself. We

1:34:08

are these cubes lying upon the spikes,

1:34:10

self-immolating, self-imposing. Also, here's a comment from

1:34:13

Benjamin says, BBK's official Twitter says, quote,

1:34:15

second half of movie night will be

1:34:17

on Tuesday, so they better have an

1:34:19

eviction on Tuesday or else I'm done

1:34:22

believing they're advertising. So yeah, listen, fool

1:34:24

me once, shame on me. But if

1:34:26

they are claiming the second half of

1:34:29

movie night madness massacre, that seems

1:34:31

to indicate to me some sort of

1:34:33

eviction. So that was

1:34:35

Wednesday, just like 20 minutes of behalf

1:34:37

to do the HOH at that point, and then

1:34:39

just continued follow up from the massacre. I

1:34:42

just I wonder if we're going to

1:34:44

get the rest of the massacre plus

1:34:46

an HOH and then like they zoom

1:34:48

through another cycle on Wednesday. I just

1:34:50

don't. I feel like they need to send two people home

1:34:53

this week. I think they have to.

1:34:55

I believe the finale is what, three weeks

1:34:57

from Wednesday, I think. So you guys said

1:34:59

a massacre does indicate maybe

1:35:01

multiple people going home. So imagine the twist

1:35:03

at the end of the Tuesday night episode

1:35:05

is so you think that's it. But one

1:35:07

more review is going to go. Oh,

1:35:10

it's the exact opposite. Imagine one. Imagine

1:35:12

if it comes down to it and they're

1:35:14

like, ha ha, you thought you were voting

1:35:17

actually both nominees just go home. Bye. Exactly.

1:35:20

Well, we shall see no matter what

1:35:22

the two of you made an absolute

1:35:24

killing over the course of this podcast.

1:35:26

I know that we are without our

1:35:28

usual leader and Taryn and we were

1:35:30

a bit building the plane as we

1:35:32

flew trying to talk through this very

1:35:34

new game and how to play it

1:35:36

ideally versus what actually played out. But

1:35:39

I certainly had a lot of fun getting to this.

1:35:41

I hope everyone who's watching live got to do so

1:35:43

as well. Almost 1800 people watching

1:35:46

right now. I think brother Kelly.

1:35:48

No way. Yeah. I mean, I

1:35:50

think like it's interesting. This is, again,

1:35:53

something I've never seen in

1:35:55

the franchise before just as a

1:35:57

game structure or even just a deviation to

1:36:00

something completely different and invigorated me. For

1:36:02

a season I have been enjoying up

1:36:04

to this point, even if I have

1:36:06