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Now really, really.

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Now really hello, and welcome to Really Know Really

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with Jason Alexander and Peter Tilden, who both

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button. And speaking of mail, today's episode

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could be titled Hello Newman, because

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the internationally beloved actor Wayne Knight

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visits Really No Really to talk about his iconic

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roles, including Seinfeld's scheming mailman

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Newman and the techno was Dennis Nedrie

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in the original Jurassic Park. We and also

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discusses getting work based on his weight, being

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held hostage on the set of Oliver Stone's JFK,

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the bizarre audition that got him his part in Basic

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Instinct, the disgusting reality of

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being spit on by a dinosaur.

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Here's Jason and Peter. You

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didn't want the ball?

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I think the bell has been a major assets to the show

0:51

and annoying.

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Really no Um

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In nineteen fifty seven on radio that was a very

0:57

powerful tonic THO today,

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well you would you would know.

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Hell, And I was going to say it, I.

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Always love when they get to see the real you.

1:09

Yeah.

1:10

So what I love today is

1:13

that I feel at home because

1:15

a person that I was happy to work with.

1:19

Has joined us today, someone who.

1:22

I admired and respect on

1:25

the sill of one time. We can shut it down now

1:28

you want, but

1:30

a man who's a deposit for the mics and the cameras,

1:32

and.

1:32

A man who whose work I was aware

1:35

of long before he became a

1:37

national and national international

1:40

iconic figure. I was aware of this

1:42

man's work upon the Broadway stage. I

1:45

was a huge fan. I was very excited when we actually

1:48

maid our acquaintance professionally for

1:51

nine years on the number one hit comedy of the

1:53

of the nineties and

1:56

today I was stilled.

1:58

To make his acquaintance because and people say that he's

2:01

one of the funniest guys. I know this is truly

2:03

in conversation I break up I

2:06

could be talking about.

2:07

Before we sat down in front of these mics, We've already had

2:10

four things he said that I could write down and go.

2:12

I'm using that.

2:13

He's a joy as a smart man, as you

2:16

know, can talk about see and an

2:18

extremely funny man. You all know

2:21

him. I think everybody knows.

2:22

The temptation is to say hello

2:25

newman, but we're gonna

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say.

2:28

Hello to our friend, mister Wayne Knight. Welcome

2:30

to really really, sir.

2:32

Bless You're exciting to see the

2:34

COVID God, we've lost touch with so

2:36

many people.

2:36

Ever since COVID, I have

2:39

not been the same. I've

2:41

become some of the Diamond. The

2:44

Diamond was a famous actress and comedian.

2:49

There you go. So how are you?

2:51

Bro?

2:51

You know, I've talked to you recently because we

2:53

were working on something together that nothing to new show

2:55

business. But I haven't seen you since

2:58

really since the pandemic began.

2:59

How yeah, how is life? What's going on?

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I know you're working, you gotta,

3:03

you're in a show, and you're I'm

3:07

not always working. I'm always not working,

3:09

but now I am.

3:11

Yeah.

3:12

Anyway,

3:15

but was it? Was it?

3:18

But you know, but that's so interesting

3:20

because I knew so, you know, we do a little

3:22

bit of research about all of our guests, and

3:24

I knew some of this stuff about you. But you

3:28

had such a kind of crazy, rich,

3:31

diverse life around what

3:34

we know you for as an actor that I

3:36

almost want to I want to start by going, if

3:38

you if this hadn't happened for you acting,

3:41

what did you want to do? When did you go? Oh, I'm

3:43

going to be an actor and what else was on

3:45

the table when you.

3:47

A biochemistry.

3:50

I don't doubt it because I but I'm not just

3:52

saying this to be nice.

3:54

I've had.

3:55

One of the things I've enjoyed so much about being

3:57

around you all these years is you are legit

4:00

intimately one of the most intelligent,

4:02

well read, fascinating people.

4:03

I know. I'm not.

4:05

I don't you strike me as as I'm

4:07

a functioning idiot. I don't

4:09

read. What I do is I listen

4:12

to conversations, repeat them as

4:15

if they were mine.

4:16

Oh good, then leave the room quickly.

4:19

What that does is.

4:20

It create impression, the opression of I

4:23

do the I do impressions of intelligent

4:25

people.

4:25

You know this is taking me back to phone calls. Wayne would

4:27

take you up like I gotta go.

4:30

You just got to leave quickly. Don't

4:32

stay too long after the intelligence

4:34

Wait.

4:35

A minute before acting. You

4:37

were a private investigator.

4:38

Yes, how five years I was a p

4:41

I in New York.

4:42

I got it here.

4:43

I can't and I knew. I knew

4:45

this because you had told me that before. But

4:50

you have to say it, say it so.

4:55

It's pretty he was a private investigator because

4:58

I know it you're the one.

5:00

You know, like, when when is this going to go digitif

5:02

out? Do you really think

5:04

the analog belt works? I think

5:06

it's so.

5:07

Fashioned, you

5:07

know what? Investigator?

5:13

Oh no, but but the thing

5:15

is that here's the thing. So I'm an actor, right,

5:17

and uh I did a Broadway show

5:20

and uh one of my cast mates.

5:23

You know, we're young, we're in our twenties.

5:25

So when you crap out after that, you still

5:27

grab out. You know, you think this is going to be

5:29

a continuant and I'm gonna last forever.

5:32

Yes, so I didn't want to wait

5:34

tables again. I had you know, I'd been on

5:36

Broadway and stuff, and and

5:38

I had a friend. He says, Oh, I got a great job. Yeah,

5:41

what do you do? He goes, I'm I'm

5:43

a private investigator. What

5:47

you don't have any criminology background.

5:49

You never were a policeman. You

5:51

don't know anything about this. He goes, that's

5:54

right. How

5:56

are you these people? Why

5:59

why would hire said they like actors? Why

6:02

do they like actors? They're not upwardly

6:04

mobile, they don't want a full time job,

6:07

and they're totally unscrupulous. That's

6:10

correct. They're

6:12

willing to lie about themselves. Add

6:14

infinitum. You know, I mean, I've been building

6:16

resumes my entire life, so why

6:19

not just build an entire character that was fake

6:21

and then walking the door. And that's what I

6:23

wound up doing. And I did it on phone

6:25

and I did it in person, and I

6:28

talked to like uh

6:31

admirals, heads of industry, uh

6:34

senators, getting references on

6:36

people. I found

6:39

out that somebody had been in a mental hospital

6:41

the previous summer and they were trying to get a job

6:43

as a startup engineer at a nuclear plants.

6:54

Then then I'm like, so proud of

6:56

myself and he was I'm not even

6:59

and he got shocked and everything. Then

7:02

the phone rings and it's the candidate,

7:05

the guy who's trying to get the job, and

7:09

he goes, I'm so thankful

7:11

to you. I've been hoping that a headhunter

7:13

would come around. Nobody's ever had

7:15

any interest in me. For two years, I haven't been able

7:18

to get a job.

7:21

Oh oh oh god. Oh

7:24

yeah, so before Google

7:26

listen is before the internet. Here a gumshoe,

7:28

you're running around doing everything.

7:30

Oh I remember I had one where

7:32

I'm well, I'll give you the whole

7:34

shmear. We were doing this for an arbitragure

7:37

right, who has a lot of money

7:39

and he has no pair, an Irish old

7:41

pair who's in his home taking care of his kids.

7:44

A very attractive young Irish woman. And

7:47

he says to his wife, you know, uh,

7:50

Mara is so talented and

7:53

so clever. I

7:55

think we're doing her disservice by

7:57

having her be here in the house.

8:00

I should bring her down to the office and give

8:02

her a real job. I think that she can

8:04

go far. Okay, hey, So

8:06

she goes down there and of course gets immediately

8:09

pregnant, but she

8:12

is a Catholic girl and

8:14

she will not have an abortion. Right,

8:17

So the arbitrager sets

8:19

her up in Red Hook, Brooklyn, because

8:22

God knows, you can't get through it. You can't get away

8:24

from her. So we'll just stasher over

8:26

there in Red Hook, and maybe, you know, she'll

8:29

go away. So then they

8:31

hire us to follow her. The

8:33

wife finds out about this somehow,

8:36

because he tells a wife, listen, I

8:39

think that the only thing I can do is like four

8:42

days a week, I'll be with you three days a week. I'll

8:44

check in on her, just to make sure she's not doing

8:46

anything, you know. And so the wife

8:48

hires us to follow her because

8:50

she might be cheating on him, and if she's cheating

8:53

on him, he might drump, you know, dump

8:55

her. So I'm following her.

8:57

I'm in Red Hook in the rain and

9:00

February. Uh, there's a there's

9:02

a three legged dog walking by,

9:04

and I hated

9:06

this. She's pure as the driven

9:09

snow. This girl. I fire follow her

9:11

from miles from restaurant, the restaurant,

9:13

whatever and whatever, whatever, there's nothing wrong with her.

9:15

Meanwhile, the wife says that

9:18

she wants to hire us

9:20

to follow the husband.

9:23

Then the husband sees the wife

9:26

the people following him, and he

9:28

believes that the wife is colluding with

9:31

the girl for a divorce settlement.

9:33

So we're hired by

9:35

the wife. By the husband

9:39

that the wife begins to

9:41

have an affair with the head of the detective agency

9:44

and has lunchtime owners with hih my

9:46

god, really, I'm telling

9:48

you, how could I

9:50

leave this job?

9:53

In New York Times unbelievable. Now you

9:56

have to sit there like a three If they're up till three in the morning,

9:58

you're there till three in the morning.

9:59

Well, you have this thing, you know, you put your you

10:01

put your SODA's under the car if it's winter, you

10:04

know, instead of hot coffee, you have your cold soda under

10:06

the thing. You have a sandwich, you got your thing, you

10:08

got you know, you're all decked out, you're waiting

10:11

there. The worst thing that could

10:13

happen is that they leave the house.

10:14

Because then you gotta move.

10:15

You gotta move, you know, and we

10:17

don't have we don't have cell phones in those

10:19

days, so you gotta move and get from

10:22

to a payphone or whatever the hell.

10:24

You don't know what. We're a walking twice one

10:26

or two.

10:26

In every show, even the best

10:28

show, when you leave, they

10:31

look around and there's a car there

10:33

with you guys sitting in there. It's so obvious.

10:36

And then you pull out and it's one

10:38

two they pull out. How

10:40

do you do that?

10:41

In real life, you realize that people don't

10:44

think they're being followed all the time. So

10:48

if you are standing next to somebody in an elevator,

10:51

they don't go, are you following me?

10:52

You know?

10:53

No, I'm not.

10:54

They don't think that way, all

10:57

right. That makes that makes five

10:59

years.

11:00

Five years, yes, And you know I

11:03

eventually I didn't

11:05

get fined. I had to leave because

11:07

my landlord was also my boss,

11:10

the head of the detective agency. It

11:13

was also my landlord.

11:14

You dropped a bomb right before we started going.

11:16

Saying I was talking to you and we were talking about

11:19

weight loss and character and can

11:21

you keep a job?

11:23

Do people hire you once you look because they think you're not funny?

11:25

And you said, my first job ever

11:28

was on Broadway wearing a fat suit.

11:30

Yeah, I think I saw this, was that Gemino?

11:32

Yeah, yeah, I was in a fat suit padded

11:35

to a fifty four inch waist. At

11:38

the time, I had like a thirty six inch wiste.

11:41

I had to eat a plate of

11:43

spaghetti and jelly

11:47

donut eight times a week. And

11:50

the prop man on the show was

11:52

a psychopath. And

11:56

what he would do is not

11:58

cook the spaghetti and arrange

12:01

it so that it looked cooked and

12:03

then like put some hot sauce under it. So this

12:06

besteam come and you'll be like and

12:11

stale donuts. And I would have to like

12:13

bring him gifts and beg that he'd be nice

12:15

to me because they wouldn't fire him.

12:17

You didn't have an equity rep because I know

12:19

they're so effective. Oh, they're terribly effective.

12:22

Yes, Well,

12:24

I I don't think he liked me. Because I

12:27

was on stage.

12:29

And he was so how long did that role?

12:31

Though?

12:35

But I guess that that jumps to the question,

12:37

Wait a.

12:37

Minute, hold on, I can't let that go by.

12:40

You did that show for three years, three

12:42

years over a thousand performers.

12:45

Hi, Now that's

12:47

unfathomable to me. I know people do

12:50

it, and they there are records that go far

12:52

beyond that for being sad people.

12:54

But my god, how did you not lose

12:57

your mind? I did I do six months?

12:59

I go, please this to another act?

13:00

Oh well, wait a minute, you're talking about the producers.

13:03

For christ sakes, did that for a

13:05

week?

13:05

No? When I was in the well, yeah, we could go.

13:08

But when I was in Broadway Bound, yeah,

13:10

right, Broadway bound, I had a fourteen month contract.

13:12

At the ten month mark, I knew

13:15

I was not No, I

13:17

lost my mind. And and

13:20

what's interesting is I learned how to act and

13:23

at the same time I reached

13:25

the threshold of my tolerance.

13:28

I had to come to a new way of doing

13:30

the show, and I

13:32

did in a work for me instead

13:34

of doing a show, I was doing

13:36

a decatalon and

13:39

each of these scenes became events,

13:41

and I was trying to score tens on

13:44

each event, and it

13:46

came not about the audience. It

13:48

became about me that I

13:51

knew what a ten was and I'm going

13:53

for it, and if the audience don't like it, that's their

13:55

problem. But if I hit a ten, it's a ten.

13:58

That help reframing

14:00

it that way It.

14:01

Did because I could get

14:03

out clean from a performance no

14:05

matter what. I never had a bad

14:08

It wasn't like, ah, that the bunch of idiots,

14:10

they're crazy, you know, That's what happens

14:12

in the long run. And the long run people talk about

14:15

how bad the audience is, right, uh,

14:18

you know, and I said, I'm gonna give that up

14:20

because I don't think that's beneficial to you.

14:23

Wow, you know, I know what you mean.

14:25

I remember doing same play Broadway Bound,

14:28

and you know, the first six months

14:30

you're going, oh, I hope they laugh, Oh I hope they left.

14:32

After six months you go to last who care

14:35

they laugh at anything?

14:38

I know that that was used to laugh.

14:43

So you do get demented, it does. It does happen.

14:45

Well, not even that, but I was working with and you know, uh,

14:48

this woman who is insane, who

14:50

used to she used to hawk

14:53

into a curtain before she went on

14:55

stage, here we go, you

14:58

know, and that she would go, I'm like, ah,

15:01

And so there was a curtain with stalactites

15:04

and stalagmites hanging off of it that

15:06

I would have to push out of the way to get on stage.

15:10

Oh my oh.

15:14

We had a replacement. One time. We had a guy who

15:16

was replacing for the father. He

15:18

went on stage. He was wearing his jacket inside

15:20

out. I

15:22

said to him, schmuck, you got your jacket

15:24

on his side out? He said, it's been established.

15:35

Wait, oh my god. So

15:40

speaking of weight, was this the show that you left

15:43

college? One credit shy for

15:45

what happened is you know, I went

15:47

to New York. I had

15:49

a you know, I'm waiting tables. I'm

15:52

waiting tables at Wolf's Deli across

15:54

from Lincoln Center. The worst,

15:57

Oh god, I hate it. I had to wear a stupid

15:59

little jacket, and I had the cater to

16:01

all these old women who are like, I want

16:03

it on the side, and you know, it's

16:06

like, yes, I'm not lean and on the side. Okay,

16:08

fine, So that's where

16:10

when I get the cold. But I got the job.

16:13

I am wearing the stupid little jacket. I go, excuse

16:15

me, just a moment I went out into the street

16:18

through the jacket into the street, never

16:20

went back, just walked out of there,

16:22

thinking I'll never wait tables again.

16:24

Not so okay before so we'll

16:27

go to the wait thing in a minute. But and

16:29

this I think is a really no really if I got

16:31

this correct, and you before, what are you ringing

16:33

before you it's a preparatory really no,

16:35

really, So I

16:38

read and I think I got it right that you were doing a sketrow

16:40

in England with Emma Thompson. Yes, Emma

16:43

Thompson is ultimately kind of responsible

16:45

for a lot of things in your life, and that she turned you on to

16:47

Kenneth Browna, yes, who gave

16:49

you a game.

16:50

And I tried to turn her off. So

16:53

Kenneth I told him, I said, I look,

16:55

if you're going to marry him, marry him like

16:58

a black widow spider

17:00

and then eat his head, which

17:03

is so sweet.

17:04

So Kenneth Brona puts you in something and

17:07

which got you to Oliver Stone, which got you to

17:09

Paul Verhoven, which got you to Spielberg.

17:12

Yeah, well not necessarily in that order.

17:14

How it how it begins is I

17:18

I got to Oliver Stone from Lincoln

17:21

Center and from other things, uh, from recent

17:23

Brayman and being seen, you

17:25

know uh. And I remember

17:27

auditioning for Oliver for JFK

17:32

and them saying, uh, don't

17:35

be theatrical. Whatever you do,

17:37

don't be theatrical. He hates

17:40

theatrical. What do

17:42

you expect me to do? Oh? Do

17:44

you do?

17:48

But in any case, I went in and I gave

17:51

this Georgia kicker,

17:53

kind of like accident, because

17:55

I know that I was looking for somebody and I growed

17:58

up in Bartokay and the Georgia. I had

18:00

to do it. So I did that accent

18:02

and Oliver loved it, loved it. That is

18:04

not the actual, thank you very much. So

18:08

then I get to New Orleans to do JFK,

18:11

and I'm playing a real guy, this guy

18:13

Numa Bertell, and he's

18:15

from the French Quarter. He's

18:18

from the you know, hey, tod

18:20

Lock Hey comes from

18:22

Choppatolas. He's got that kind of the wall

18:24

on stand, different kind of accent

18:27

than the when I was doing. And so I'm

18:29

trying to so I'm going to do that for me, Goes, I don't

18:31

want that, but I

18:33

want what you did in the audition, I go. But

18:35

that's wrong. That's not the accurate accent

18:38

for this guy. I don't care

18:41

I go, but I do.

18:43

Oh.

18:45

And he hated me for the rest

18:48

of the picture and so he would

18:50

say things to me. He would taunt me, he

18:52

would be mean to me. We would be doing

18:54

a scene because you have dialogue in this scene, you

18:56

think it can handle it.

18:59

So is this an accurate quote? When asked what it was

19:01

like working on Jake FK, you said, so,

19:14

is this an accurate quote? When asked what was like

19:16

working on Jake FK, you said, it's

19:19

like being held hostage in a bank.

19:21

All did

19:24

I say? That? Is it?

19:28

But it was dalk day afternoon.

19:30

It was a good picture. Oh

19:32

my god. Wow. No.

19:34

So uh. And on the last day he's

19:36

going, uh, you know to Laurie Metcheff,

19:38

you're going to miss me. When he looked at me and he goes,

19:40

You're not going to miss me.

19:41

No, uh, let me just let's

19:43

me finish this area. Yes, yes, Verhoven.

19:46

You go to Verhoven and you're in the famous movie

19:48

which is of the Shawn some basic incident.

19:50

Yes, well, how that happened is it

19:52

is simply an audition going

19:55

into the like you're going to meet Paul Verhoven.

19:57

You're going to meet him in a hotel room. It's

20:01

one of those I'm like, oh great, okay, all right,

20:03

So, like you know, I go

20:05

up the stairs and waiting at the door, and the

20:08

door open and he's there with a camera.

20:12

Hello, Yes you're coming, come in,

20:14

Come in. All right, okay, look

20:17

into the camera. Okay, okay, all right, look

20:20

closer. Okay. Now

20:23

maybe you do a.

20:24

Lick with your lips.

20:28

Okay, you do a lick, but

20:30

good, good, good, good good. Maybe

20:32

you do another lick, maybe the lick

20:35

lick.

20:35

Then I go lick lick mm

20:38

hmmm, yes, but now

20:41

maybe you do a third lick lick,

20:43

click, dick, and I go like, lick

20:45

go no, too many licks.

20:48

And this was your reaction and

20:52

you supposed to be you looking at

20:54

her in that famous scene. Now is it true?

20:57

Because I know people probably asking then times what did you see?

21:00

You had you were looking into it? I was looking.

21:02

I saw the mac box, I mean the camera.

21:05

I got a panavision camera like an inch

21:07

from my face, you know, and everybody

21:09

else is going we and I'm just like, hey,

21:12

you know, I don't see nothing.

21:13

So you didn't see nothing, but you sweated like was

21:15

she.

21:16

Even on the set when you were doing no

21:18

No?

21:19

So there's there's that yes. And

21:21

then because of all the.

21:23

Can you imagine this sense memory it took

21:25

to come up.

21:25

With that sweat to

21:28

really feel like you were looking at me. Yes,

21:31

Spielberg saw your sweating and you were the first

21:33

one cast in the Jurassic Park.

21:35

This is this is what I was told that he

21:37

like he saw me in in basic

21:39

instinct and thought, what if that were a dinosaur

21:42

instead of a you know, a wide open vagina?

21:46

And uh and

21:48

so no, literally I got cast.

21:50

I had an agent at Gersha

21:53

at the time, who said, are you sitting down? I

21:57

said no, no, but I will

21:59

if you'd like cases Steven Spielberg

22:04

and I'm like, okay, uh,

22:07

why is that so startling to do? But

22:17

but literally I am I not met

22:19

Spielberg. I've gotten cast.

22:21

I was flown to Kawhi. They

22:24

took me in a in a bus up a cane

22:27

road covered in mud and it's rocking

22:29

and whatever. We get to the top of the

22:31

cane road to blue Hole in

22:33

Kawhi, the rainiest place in the United

22:36

in the world three hundred and sixty days

22:38

a year it rains there, but they had rain machines

22:41

in case, uh, and

22:43

they used them. So we

22:45

get there to the gates of Jurassic

22:47

Park. We pull up to the gates of Jurassic

22:49

Park, and at the bottom of the gates of Jurassic

22:51

Park is Spielberg with you

22:54

know, and

22:56

I walk up to him and I go, I

22:58

hope I'm the guy you wanted. He is this

23:01

the other one? Wow?

23:04

Did you enjoy it?

23:04

Like that? Movie must have been tough to do. I mean,

23:06

you might it was.

23:08

I was soaking wet. I was as fat

23:10

as a human can be. I

23:12

mean most of the time while I

23:14

was on the picture, people are going, He's gonna blow,

23:17

you know, And I'm like, no, I'm all right,

23:20

I'm soaking wet. And they've got like

23:23

this kind of like a polo shirt

23:25

that's not very stretchy that goes over. I mean

23:27

that I have to while wet put on take

23:29

on, take off, take on, take off.

23:31

You know.

23:32

Uh.

23:32

No, it was not an iconic scene. And then

23:35

the last question about that, is this true or false?

23:37

Because the rumor is one night, I guess

23:39

you were filming here and this spit or

23:41

that that dinosaur spit in your face

23:44

and it was a purple dye. Yeah,

23:46

they had to go to Seinfeld and her

23:48

face was purple.

23:49

The problem with this is the

23:51

guy who's like, I was shot

23:53

in the face with a h an

23:55

air rifle filled with dyed black k

23:57

white jelly. There

24:00

is a guy who

24:02

was shooting me with the thing. He's

24:04

looking at me disdainfully.

24:07

Should I find troubling? And

24:10

he said, uh, don't

24:12

blink or I'll have

24:14

to do it again. I'm

24:17

like, okay, so you have to turn

24:19

the camera and without blinking, I'm

24:21

going to shoot you between the eyes with this with

24:23

this gun.

24:25

And if you blink, I'm going to do it again.

24:28

It took two takes. I couldn't the

24:30

first day. But that guy

24:33

now lives across the street from me and

24:36

he has a better house than I do. All

24:41

right, I hit the bells.

24:43

Oh my gosh. So there. Now

24:45

you were three, like three sixty at that point, right.

24:47

Oh no, not that. I was like three

24:50

twenty seven and a half.

24:53

I read that when you lost away

24:55

with the fear became the doctor

24:57

saying to you and it was doing a signful episode

24:59

that you were complicating or something you know what.

25:01

Happened is there. It was the episode where

25:05

the farmer's daughter and and and the farmer

25:08

and and they and they bringing

25:10

the bottle deposit. So

25:13

I got Rance Howard firing a gun

25:15

over my head and my running through the field,

25:18

and this girl is yelling lying goodbye

25:20

Norman. She didn't

25:22

know the name Newman. She literally was too

25:24

stupid to figure out that it was Newman, not Norman.

25:27

And we kept it in. So I'm

25:29

running back and forth in this fake cornfield with

25:31

my pants down, and and I'm known

25:33

for being able to run quickly. Don't

25:37

don't blow by that. I remember

25:39

watching him and going, this guy

25:41

can move not anymore. I

25:44

was fast, and now I'm going to have back

25:46

surgery in a couple of weeks. Uh.

25:50

But in any case, So I'm running back forth,

25:52

runningack forth, running back for We're doing it over and over again,

25:54

and I'm getting what feels like angina paints.

25:58

So I go immediately to cardiologist

26:00

and I say, I any think I'm gonna And he's like,

26:02

yeah, you got hardening of the heart on one side

26:05

from blood pressure changes and

26:07

this, and then if you don't change your life.

26:09

You're going to die.

26:10

And I'm like, I don't want

26:12

to die, Okay, So I went

26:14

to a trainer, started the whole

26:17

process and began,

26:19

you know, everything I could think of

26:21

to lose the weight. And

26:25

I did lose you know, a good portion

26:27

of it. During Seinfeld there was you

26:29

could see some loss.

26:32

Yes, as you were coming down. I was going up. Yeah,

26:34

and then and then I laughed, and you know who the hell

26:36

knows, but I mean it was. This has

26:38

been the lifelong thing. You

26:40

know, you go down, I've got like forty

26:42

eight different pairs of pants. You know, Oh

26:44

it's Tuesday. I'll wear those you.

26:46

And I got for the both of you because I know you had a weight thing.

26:48

Can I go down the list of stuff to see if you if

26:50

you used it to lose weight? Ready?

26:52

Yeah, but then I want to come back to fen

26:55

fit.

26:55

Yes, no verbal light no,

26:58

no atkins yes, and.

27:01

Gave me kidney stones all right,

27:03

thank you.

27:03

Beverly Hills diet no, my wife

27:05

though the zone yes, yes, palio

27:08

yes, gastric sleeve no yes,

27:10

gastric bypass, no, LiPo, no

27:13

stomach stapling, no, grapefood diet,

27:16

no Master cleans. Yes.

27:18

In fact, you were there. I was on it for sixteen

27:20

days?

27:21

Were there?

27:21

Hell?

27:22

Were you there?

27:23

You were working on a on a show that we had

27:25

developed together. And I'm in the writer's room on

27:27

day sixteen of The Men, I feel great.

27:29

Day six tewn, I'm never gonna eat again. Day sixteen of the.

27:31

Master Glenns And somebody pitches me an idea

27:34

and I go, yeah, what was

27:36

that?

27:37

My brain just shut down,

27:39

just stopped work. Jenny Craig, Yes, wait

27:41

watchers, Yes, any kind of food delivery

27:43

service. Yes, so you Wow, this

27:46

shows you how hard it is to

27:49

change behavior and your patterns.

27:51

Yeah, but no, you and I also I

27:55

went to the place we don't talk about, you know, we

27:57

were the twelve step place we don't talk about.

27:59

It.

27:59

Went there as well, and

28:02

that was actually quite beneficial for

28:04

me. Yeah,

28:06

but I don't and I have never used

28:08

it because of

28:10

the fear of you

28:13

know, not being

28:15

like I see people who take the ozmpacause I can't

28:17

stop. I can't stop. You know you're

28:19

looking at at Sharon

28:22

Osborne and whatever, and she's I wanted to gain back

28:25

in your life.

28:26

Well, you're starting to find some stuff long

28:28

term that may happen from that. I know

28:30

that you can't have surgery. You got to tell your antiesthesiologies

28:32

because they confect your surgery. Anesthesia.

28:36

There's something to do when you're on it, and

28:38

they give you the different

28:41

ways.

28:41

So you know, you left that one that I actually did try

28:43

as well, and that was hypnotherapy.

28:45

And you're looking

28:47

at me.

28:50

But Wayne, at one

28:52

point you and I had discussed and this this was because

28:54

because we're show is always about things

28:57

that really kind of boggle our mind and make us go,

28:59

what could that be about?

29:00

Uh?

29:00

But I remember you telling me at one point you would you would.

29:03

I remember seeing you you looked, not that

29:06

you know, being thinner is necessarily the

29:09

thing.

29:09

But you you were.

29:11

You were really pretty trim, and you look really fit,

29:13

and you had lost I think you said close to one hundred

29:15

pounds and work

29:17

sort of dry it up.

29:19

Nobody knew really what to.

29:21

Do, and you're nobody really

29:23

say you look like a leading man.

29:25

I mean, that's the worst possible

29:27

thing that could have happened. I understand. I mean like people

29:29

are going, what I need is a

29:32

really attractive looking wing night.

29:35

No, that's not what people want.

29:38

I want someone I can safely ridicule

29:40

and kick if if if I can't

29:42

ridicule you. What the hell do I want you for now?

29:45

But so

29:47

what do you how do you get around? What

29:49

do you do with that?

29:50

I mean, well the way I mean the way you

29:53

do blessed career, but what well,

29:55

the best.

29:55

Thing that happened to me was doing

29:58

art on Broadway. It

30:01

didn't really lead to other things

30:03

in that direct way, but

30:06

I got a little review as

30:08

the Times was looking at the people

30:10

who'd replaced and whatnot, and they said something

30:13

nice like, by the end of the play, you forgot that Newman

30:15

ever existed. And that was to

30:17

me one of the greatest things that anybody could say

30:19

to me, you know. I mean,

30:22

I'm very proud of of Newman,

30:24

and I'm very proud of the characters that I've done. I

30:27

give them full intent, I go

30:30

all the way, you know. But I

30:32

also started out doing straight

30:34

film and comedy television. I

30:37

didn't do comedy in film. It was weird,

30:39

you know. It allowed me kind

30:42

of back and forth until Seinfeld

30:44

happened, and then you know you're who

30:46

you are. You want to look.

30:48

There's so many things that come from being famous,

30:51

and there's so many negative things that come from being

30:53

famous. You got to take the good with the band. You

30:56

know what I mean for you?

30:57

Was Newman a net

31:00

neutral or a net positive?

31:03

I think I think it's a net positive because

31:07

you know, there's so many things. It

31:09

gives you credibility in

31:11

a way that you can't get otherwise. I

31:13

mean, you know, you delivered, and

31:16

you delivered on a show that I believe delivered

31:19

for me, so I will look at you.

31:21

Let's come on in, right, So I

31:23

think that that gives entree in a

31:25

way.

31:25

So for me, you know, it's we

31:27

talked about it before we started taping. You know, there

31:30

were two years where I blatantly and

31:32

without trying

31:34

to hide it, wor to pay because I

31:37

had I had lost so many roles

31:39

to producers who said, well, I

31:41

don't want the.

31:42

Audience to think of you as George.

31:43

Right.

31:44

You know, my theater career was

31:46

more often than not, playing fifteen people

31:48

a night. I'm a little bit of a chameleon, and

31:52

you know I desperately tried to create

31:55

a different impression. So I

31:59

feel blessed and there's never a day that

32:01

I don't thank God Almighty and Jerys.

32:03

I felt Larry David for giving me

32:05

the life that I have. But but

32:08

George has opened a lot of doors. George has

32:10

closed a lot of doors for me that are not going to open

32:13

it. But I at least and I

32:15

don't I don't mean to put it in these terms, but it's

32:17

it's a reality. I was compensated

32:19

for that in an extraordinary.

32:22

This is exactly the problem. Yeah,

32:24

it is exactly the problem, because

32:28

if you were not, then

32:31

all what you get afterwards,

32:33

you are not being compensated for in

32:36

terms of the time lost, right and

32:39

then and what what I didn't understand

32:41

too, is that there are opportunities that come

32:43

at the end of a show, and if those

32:46

opportunities don't hit, then

32:48

you're back at sea, right,

32:50

you know, And you think, well, this is just the beginnings

32:53

of you know, the opportunities that will come

32:55

from having done this, But

32:57

you don't know that, and you don't understand that.

33:00

And uh, I have a much better view of

33:02

the business now than I did when

33:04

I was young. And it's, you

33:06

know, just commodities broken, it's it's

33:08

just you know what's hot at the moment.

33:11

Right, A lot of pictures for

33:13

your own sitcom right after timefa.

33:15

Well, I actually Larry Charles

33:17

wrote, uh a sitcom

33:20

for me, and to which you know, Jerry

33:22

said, Larry anyway,

33:28

he said, I understand an insane

33:30

monologue, but an entire sit

33:32

gun in a pilot.

33:34

Uh.

33:34

And and we were we were pitching it,

33:36

you know, uh to Jamie Tarsus and

33:38

and uh was

33:41

it war Warren and Warren and and

33:43

Jamie and and uh they were eating,

33:46

uh a sandwich at the time. And

33:48

they were both having sandwiches at

33:50

the time, and uh, and Larry

33:52

had come in. Larry Charles had come in wearing

33:55

pajamas. And I'm

33:57

like, you couldn't wear a sweater, like, maybe

33:59

pretend you engulfed once, you

34:01

know, I mean we're meeting network people. It's

34:04

they'd like that kind of thing. And and the

34:06

first thing he talked about was this, you know, it's

34:08

very much like Hamlet's Ghost,

34:11

you know, when Hamlet's Ghost comes

34:13

in and Hamlet and I'm like, my eyes are

34:15

spinning up in my head and I'm thinking, this is

34:17

the end of.

34:18

My grid right now. And

34:20

it was you

34:23

had agreed that going in, Well,

34:25

no, I me just.

34:26

Did I understand. It was a great

34:28

show. It was a great show. It was about

34:30

a vegetarian butcher in Brooklyn has

34:37

to come home to save the butcher shop because

34:39

his father has died, and you

34:42

know, on the street it was all good.

34:43

But you know it's just the

34:46

wasn't Newmansk or was it a different

34:48

a whole different kind of character.

34:49

I you know, I'm

34:52

sure it was uh Newmanesque in

34:54

some ways, because

34:57

you know at the time, I you

35:00

know what happens is you've become successful

35:02

at something and then immediately

35:05

you say, well, I must repudiate that, right,

35:08

Why why would you do that? It's like I

35:11

wanted to play only serious roles of

35:13

Nordic men with blonde hair, and

35:15

I was like, come on, you know,

35:17

it's just.

35:18

Like I was talking to William Macy

35:20

interviewing William Macy, and he said, when I

35:22

was in my twenties, it was all

35:24

about can I change make a difference with it? He

35:27

said, in my forties it was about to catch

35:29

and now at my age it do I have to get wet?

35:32

Yeah, which

35:38

is exactly where you're It's

35:41

just it's just that different.

35:43

But you were looking back, you would have Doneman.

35:45

By the way, Jason hit me with the line, we were both

35:47

so excited when you're coming in and

35:49

you got. I just laughed out loud.

35:51

Because he asked me, what, you know, what would the iconic

35:53

moments? And I said, well, Wayne had two lines that you

35:55

know, basically shut me and everybody else down.

35:58

One of them I think you had libbed. The other moment scripted,

36:00

but.

36:01

And it sounds like an ad lib from you. He

36:04

he who controls the mail, controls

36:06

information.

36:09

I don't know the one the one ad

36:11

lib was. And then it's, uh,

36:15

the barcode reader breaks and it's publishers

36:18

clearing out sweets takes day.

36:21

But I think didn't you also? Was it the one

36:23

that killed me? I thought it was an AdLib?

36:25

Is when you're driving the mail truck and it burst in the

36:27

flames and you went, oh.

36:33

You know. The cool thing was I used to go visit him on

36:35

the set and watching everybody

36:37

do this constantly, the joy

36:39

on that set was just something.

36:41

Well, let me, can I ask you a question about that. I wasn't

36:43

thinking about this, but so recently

36:46

I've seen, Uh,

36:48

there was an actor named Armand Shimmerman who did

36:50

an episode of our show, and I

36:52

saw something about Keith her Nandez, both of

36:54

which Armand said that our cast

36:56

was was very unwelcoming, unwell

37:00

coming to him. He felt like he was not appreciated

37:02

at all. Keith Nanda said, I,

37:05

in particular was I think the word

37:07

was standoffish. I always thought

37:09

we were and I'm not looking for a compliment here.

37:11

I thought we were kind of a welcoming set.

37:14

We were excited about people.

37:16

Have you ever been on another show?

37:18

Yeah?

37:18

Well then, and you still think that anyway? We

37:22

were we now? Were we

37:24

cold? Were we welcoming? Were we warm? Were we

37:26

were professional? Huh?

37:28

And you were the

37:31

top show on television

37:33

and it was like, this is opening night

37:36

on Broadway, don't fuck it up? Is

37:38

that the vibe before?

37:39

Wow?

37:40

The vibe is that everybody was thrilled

37:42

to be there and they and

37:45

they understood the nature of

37:48

this beast. And Jerry

37:51

was very was welcoming, a

37:53

friendly and Larry

37:55

was scary as hell because he

37:57

was too relaxed seeming, and

38:00

you couldn't like, how could somebody so laconic

38:03

and loose.

38:04

Be scary right right right right?

38:06

Right?

38:07

Uh?

38:08

No?

38:08

I think that. No. I

38:10

think that I enjoyed being

38:12

on the show because every

38:16

time you started a scene, you knew

38:19

it delivered. You just had to

38:21

not be in the way of it right, find

38:24

the joke, hit the joke, the

38:26

joke is there. So I

38:28

mean the number of shows I've been on where you

38:30

know, you go on an expedition to find the joke

38:33

right. This was not that the

38:35

material was it was always good.

38:38

It's you know, it's just really interesting to me

38:40

because I always I knew

38:42

that Jerry, for the most part, was a warm

38:44

host for people.

38:45

I thought, you know, I I

38:48

hoped that I was. I felt like Julia

38:50

was.

38:51

I know, Michael was off and off working on his

38:53

own on stuff, but I thought we were all kind

38:55

of gracious. But I have been on enough

38:57

other shows to know where the

38:59

warm ones, Like working on MASL

39:02

and working on Young Sheldon. I went, oh, this is

39:04

I feel like I've been here

39:06

for a long time. I feel like I'm part of the family walking

39:08

right. And there are other shows and you're walking into a very

39:10

dysfunctional family.

39:11

Or doesn't feel you can hear the

39:13

wind blowing, you know, there

39:16

aren't conversations going on where

39:18

people are playing with each other and then they're

39:21

doing the show. Third Rock

39:23

was the most friendly

39:26

show I had ever been on because

39:28

John Lifgo's father was

39:31

ran a Shakespeare theater, and so

39:33

he knew how to be the captain of a ship.

39:37

It was ingrained in him how

39:39

to take care of people, to be gracious,

39:41

to make sure that everybody was together, to

39:44

keep it, you know, moving. And

39:46

by the way, we didn't get to it. But back to the

39:48

fat the fact that you know, just in researching,

39:51

it's really interesting because I was a chubby kid.

39:53

You know, I went to the husky shop, you know where you couldn't

39:55

Yes.

39:58

Like I'm leading the pack at the next I did.

40:00

A husky

40:02

Where did they.

40:03

Come over the high right? Yeah? Yeah,

40:07

picture of a Siberian husky's

40:09

head in a three piece suit was so low. Yeah,

40:11

I went, mom, really, so I

40:14

have to go to the.

40:14

Place for wide shoes. I had to go to the place

40:16

with wide clothes.

40:18

Every freaking thing on me was wide

40:21

whale corduroy, and I went, that's great, right

40:25

into the name.

40:26

But then you also have the chafing in the other.

40:30

Ye actually just sticks together.

40:31

On d royal corduroy on a fat person

40:34

is just a way of starting a fire in the woods.

40:36

Absolutely, So to that point

40:38

though, it's it's with these there's ozembic

40:40

shaming now which is fascinating people going, oh, she

40:43

probably took it, Oh he didn't take it. I can lie.

40:44

Why do you have to do it hard?

40:46

Or well, why should you judge who's doing

40:48

it? But I never realized to the extent because

40:51

when you get into the medical area, and

40:53

I don't know if you've ever experienced it, when you're heavy to doctors,

40:55

when you talk to them, they're listening

40:58

to you about whatever you're saying. But it's really, you know

41:00

what, lose forty pounds is the beginning

41:02

to do it the right right, that's what you have.

41:04

And I didn't realize with the fat shaming, how

41:07

many people don't want to go to the doctor, how many people are emparised

41:09

to go to a hospital because the way you're

41:11

treated, and it's a big

41:14

I've.

41:14

Got to go. I've got to go have surgery

41:16

on my back from you

41:19

know, just being obese, and also

41:21

thinking that my job was to do falls.

41:24

Oh I did falls for

41:27

so many years. I

41:29

started in college falling down concrete

41:31

stairs, doing falls left and yeah.

41:33

And so I'm on the last show I'm doing I'm practicing

41:36

this fall like eighteen times

41:38

before we shoot it. Because I wanted to be just

41:40

right, and I'm like, what are you an idiot? You

41:42

know, so I've totally wrecked myself.

41:44

But in going to the doctor, because

41:46

my legs are all beat up from all the I

41:48

don't want to go, and I want them to see that when

41:51

I was doing Jurassic Park, I

41:53

was, you know, eighteen zillion pounds, and

41:56

my leg kept hitting the jeep in

41:59

trying to open the gates and

42:02

I couldn't get in and out of the jeep fast enough. The thing

42:04

is ripping the skin off my leg. And so

42:06

I'm in kawhi. Everybody else is swimming

42:08

and whatever. I've got a giant, gaping wound on

42:11

my leg. I don't go to the doctor because

42:14

I'm afraid that they'll tell me I'm gonna

42:16

die. I'm fat, so I

42:18

don't want to hear it. My doctor does the

42:20

same.

42:21

It's a very serious thing for me.

42:23

He does the same rap every time. I was

42:25

just there.

42:25

I was just there and he's a

42:27

wonderful guy, and

42:30

he does the whole checkup.

42:32

You go in the office and this is his rap every time.

42:35

Good.

42:35

First of all, God bless your mom and dad. The

42:37

netics day've handed you. You are

42:39

such a healthy guy. Your blood work is perfect,

42:41

your lungs are clear, your heart is good,

42:43

You've got no plaque, your cholesterol is

42:45

great, blah blah blah. Your liver function,

42:48

your kidney function, terrific. God bless

42:50

you. You should live to be one hundred and ten.

42:53

Pause pause, What the do

42:55

I have to do to get twenty five pounds

42:58

up? Always

43:00

comes down to that, And honestly, it

43:02

makes me go, I don't want to go.

43:03

I know what he's gonna know, I say

43:05

to him is, look, I don't want to shame

43:08

my children by living to be one hundred and

43:10

thirty. Let me die

43:12

in one hundred and ten. But it is shit, you

43:14

know, And I told you you never And this is true.

43:18

People who I've known who are

43:20

really battling weight, who haven't have an eating

43:22

problem.

43:23

I never seen the meat. No, they don't eat,

43:25

they don't need, they don't need. They only eat

43:27

like when if there's a blackout,

43:30

you know, and people are looting, they're.

43:33

Eating right,

43:37

And I'd have the most delicate, little low

43:39

calorie meal and go home and eat a gallon and a

43:41

half of hogging doze.

43:42

I mean it, just so there's.

43:44

There's a new study. This is really interesting. This just

43:46

came out. Brain changes could be the reason it's hard

43:48

to lose weight. Oh zemping and

43:50

these similar drubs mimic the effects of a

43:52

type of foremone in the body. It impacts

43:54

everything from the brain to muscles, to the pancreas,

43:57

the stomach, in the liver. Without taking

43:59

something to change the hormonal levels in the body,

44:01

people with certain genetics simply cannot lose

44:04

weight and keep it off. When we try to lose weight with

44:06

diet exercise alone, the

44:08

hunger hormone skyrocket, the

44:11

satiety hormones drop, and it's

44:13

almost impossible to keep the weight off. They're

44:15

powerful hormonal forces that are pushing the body

44:17

to gain weight. So they're finding there's stuff

44:20

going on that's not so

44:22

simplistic, which is cut this out, cut

44:24

this out, which is why the list of diets we

44:26

talked about don't work for a lot

44:28

of people. And they just say it's behavioral changes.

44:30

But now there may be hormonal changes where your body is

44:32

trying to push. Well, what

44:34

are the.

44:35

Things like from I

44:37

don't know, there's some aglutides the

44:40

or what the word is for what

44:42

ozembic is and what all those type of

44:45

GEO one year antagonists.

44:50

You know, in terms of it

44:53

can affect how you can

44:56

drink, how you can take sweets.

44:58

How uh, because us the

45:01

things that give you serotonin

45:03

based on eating, it

45:06

cuts off. So the chocolate

45:09

that would work for you or alcohol that would

45:12

work for you might not work for you.

45:13

I've heard, I've heard in

45:15

several cases so far the same thing where

45:18

somebody who had an alcoholic problem, right,

45:20

it helped with all the addiction at the same

45:22

time because it's hitting whatever this

45:25

the nerve center is or the receptors

45:27

for that, for society and for releasing

45:30

the drugs.

45:31

Except if you want to hit someone with a ballpeen

45:33

hammer, that still is there. Okay,

45:37

thank god, thank god the classics system.

45:39

Yes, the balpeen hammer diet has not been

45:41

No dis I tried.

45:42

The ball peen hammer diet and it was

45:45

startling.

45:45

Congratulating you're

45:48

in the.

45:48

As we wrap up? Yes, what do we with the bookie?

45:50

Is your is your new show?

45:51

Yes?

45:52

And also I have a series coming out

45:54

this year called Them On

45:58

on Amazon. Is that thing?

46:00

No? It is.

46:01

Actually it takes place in Los

46:04

Angeles during the days of Darryl Gates

46:06

and I play a police detective and

46:09

it is a one of these kind

46:11

of horror shows about race.

46:16

But I'm not a bad guy.

46:18

Not theatrical

46:21

ladies and gentlemen, our friend Wayne

46:23

Knight, actor extraordin

46:25

there. Thank you for coming, thank you for hanging

46:28

out a pleasure, the joy

46:30

of your company for all this.

46:31

No, I barely know about the show. But you got

46:33

all the merchan.

46:35

We have the one we have one.

46:37

It's I got a shirt that Peter refuses

46:39

to wear.

46:39

He has a cup that he gave it to me,

46:41

and it didn't last. He didn't

46:43

get through the dishwasher one cycle. Didn't even

46:45

get through the dishwasher.

46:47

I think a do rag is the next thing.

46:53

All right, you're now our merchandise director,

46:56

god.

46:56

Bless really no, really, gentlemen,

47:09

all right, David, I think we know my buddy Wayne Knight

47:12

pretty well, but perhaps we skipped something

47:14

important.

47:14

What might we have not known?

47:17

You know, you covered it pretty well.

47:19

I think Wayne's filmography, the

47:22

ups and downs. But you know, as we saw,

47:24

Wayne has lost a lot of waite,

47:26

and we were saying that, you

47:28

know, he might have lost out on

47:31

a bunch of roles and perhaps

47:34

some role he could wear, and he actually

47:37

wouldn't be the first one to do this where a

47:40

yes, yes, right

47:43

now, this is a very controversial

47:46

piece of costume, right, A lot of people.

47:48

Object that it exists. I

47:50

think you should cast the Brendan

47:53

Fraser. Of course, remember in

47:55

twenty twenty two One

47:58

Best Actor for the Well

48:00

where he played a

48:02

a.

48:02

Man of great size.

48:05

So there are other films

48:07

out there that also used

48:09

a actor that was not on the

48:11

same size. We have the thing about

48:13

Pam with renee Zelwigger who

48:16

played Pam.

48:17

Hop Colin Farrell, right, he

48:19

was in the Latest.

48:20

As the Penguinaman,

48:23

May.

48:23

I just stop everybody for a second, say Jason would love

48:25

to do that role?

48:26

Every No, you know what I mean. Here's what we

48:28

said in my group. They we saw Colin

48:30

Farrell as the penguin, we went so they made

48:32

him look like Richard Khin. Why don't they just hire Richard

48:34

Kahan. I mean, honestly,

48:37

he wasn't affecting Richard Kaine, but but he

48:40

kind of what they did to him facially

48:42

sort of example.

48:43

Rich that's what you're going for? Richardson

48:47

flat was actor.

48:47

Hi Richard have the Penguin? Talking about Richard

48:50

kain.

48:52

O Batman Batman, I'm coming to

48:54

get you.

48:55

I'm not why why? Why? Why

48:57

not go.

48:58

After the Riddler? And

49:01

Richard has a very distinct voice, but you can change it.

49:03

He's a Constantine, all right.

49:04

Yes.

49:06

You also have the great actor Jared Lado,

49:09

who played Polo Gucci in

49:11

the twenty one House of Gucci.

49:13

That was a.

49:14

Bizarre that

49:15

was That was one of those

49:18

things where I went unless that guy,

49:20

the guy he's playing, sounded like it really

49:22

sounded like that.

49:23

That's a weird choice.

49:24

Somebody went down an awfully

49:26

strange road and nobody put up

49:28

a stobs vert.

49:29

And he also did Mark David Shapman didn't, he didn't

49:32

play Jared Leno played Chapman. I think so.

49:36

Finis Why do you forget the one that's gonna

49:38

hit me right in that herd?

49:39

I know?

49:40

Yeah.

49:42

We have the.

49:43

Wonderful Sarah Paulson who

49:45

don de fat suit to play the infamous

49:48

Linda Trip.

49:48

Oh, yes, that's right, the trip.

49:50

That's right.

49:51

Yes, yep.

49:52

We have hair Spray, the

49:54

theatrical version, where we have John Travolta

49:57

playing Edna Turnplast was an interesting

49:59

choice. Another one

50:01

very controversial.

50:02

In the Elvis biopic.

50:04

We have Tom Hanks wearing

50:06

the Colonel, The Colonel.

50:10

David thank you.

50:11

Well wait he didn't get to the one that's gonna hit me right,

50:14

God go ahead.

50:15

Throw it at

50:18

one.

50:18

Yeah, yeah, starring

50:21

Gwyneth Falton Paltrow who

50:23

played Rosebery, and of course Shallow.

50:26

House right and boy that we got.

50:28

There were people outside that theaters

50:32

also.

50:32

There were all these people there who had tails who were

50:34

really upset about Jason getting that part.

50:36

You know, you always diminish, you have to diminish.

50:41

I know what it was who

50:43

made the tail. You were another guy I

50:47

don't even know where the cables were.

50:48

But ran down to clean him.

50:50

Well, that tail was they They

50:53

came one night. It wasn't in the

50:55

script, by the way. So we're in the middle

50:57

shooting and I'm in the hotel. One night after the shooting,

50:59

got a call from Peter Farreley.

51:01

You in tonight?

51:02

You in? Yeah?

51:03

Is a guy coming over to take a mold of your ass? I went,

51:06

uh, huh is this uh

51:08

film related or is this just for

51:11

your personal use? And

51:13

he comes over and he does it, and now

51:16

they make a they make like a girdle, a

51:18

latex girdle that has

51:20

the tail apparatus and a spring

51:22

inside of it with a wire that goes down

51:25

the bottom of it out in my leg and I.

51:27

Got two guys five feet no.

51:32

Apparently somebody that I met recently

51:34

I can't remember who says they have it, that

51:36

it was auctioned off, and that they have it.

51:40

If you, if you hear this and you're that person.

51:42

Let us learn. But yeah, yeah, well David,

51:44

thank you, thank you, Laurie, thank you,

51:46

Jason, thank you.

51:47

Wayne.

51:52

Yeah, now

51:55

really has another episode of Really No

51:57

Really comes to a close. I know you're wondering

52:00

did anyone else ever play the role

52:02

of Newman on Seinfeld? That answer

52:04

in a moment, But first let's thank our guest, the

52:06

wonderful mister Wayne Knight. You can follow

52:08

him on x where he is at eye Wayne

52:11

Knight. Our

52:13

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52:16

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52:18

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52:21

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52:28

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52:30

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52:49

or wherever you get your podcasts. And

52:51

now the answer to the question, did anyone

52:53

else ever play Newman on Seinfeld?

52:56

Technically yes.

52:57

The first reference to the Newman character was

52:59

in a second season episode entitled

53:02

The Revenge. In that episode, we only

53:04

hear the voice of an Upscarirs neighbor in Jerry's

53:06

building, who is named Newman.

53:08

We never see the character appear on screen.

53:10

Newman is threatening to jump from the fire escape

53:13

and he briefly engages in a verbal exchange

53:15

with Kramer, who is yelling to him from a window.

53:18

However, in that episode, Seinfeld co

53:20

creator Larry David voiced the role of Newman,

53:22

technically making him the originator of

53:24

the role.

53:25

One season later, Newman.

53:26

Made his first appearance on screen in

53:28

an episode ironically titled The

53:30

Suicide. And it was Wayne Knight who walked

53:33

through that door. And after that Newman would

53:35

never be anyone but Wayne.

53:37

In fact, before the series wrapped up its ninth

53:39

season, the producers decided to have Wayne

53:41

record the lines that Larry David had done

53:43

in The Revenge, So if you watch that episode

53:45

now, it is Wayne's voicey here, and with

53:48

that we say goodbye Newman

53:50

too.

53:50

That they couldn't afford to give you a first name.

53:52

No Really, Billie,

53:58

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54:06

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