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right, here's today's show.

1:00

You're listening to a Rebel News Podcast.

1:10

Tonight, the United Nations

1:13

threatens to crush freedom of

1:15

speech on the internet. It's June

1:17

19th and this is the Ezra Levant Show. We

1:20

fight for freedom.

1:22

Shame on you. You censorious

1:24

thug. I

1:34

saw this tweet from the United Nations.

1:37

The Twitter bio of the account says this, the

1:40

UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian

1:42

Affairs, OCHA, helps

1:45

humanitarian organizations save the lives

1:47

of people caught in crises. Wow.

1:51

Saving the lives of people in a crisis. That

1:53

sounds like a pretty tough job. And

1:57

so this is what they're up to. Hate

1:59

speech. Insights

2:02

violence and intolerance, undermines

2:04

diversity and social cohesion, harms

2:07

peace

2:08

and development. The International

2:10

Day for Countering Hate Speech. Learn

2:13

more about the impacts and actions you can take

2:15

to say no to hate.

2:17

Look at that image. A

2:20

hand grenade

2:21

that says words can be weapons,

2:24

which is literally untrue.

2:26

I mean it's a metaphor, it's a figure

2:28

of speech, but they mean it literally. A word

2:31

is not a weapon.

2:32

You can use words like violence or

2:34

assaulted or hurt about

2:37

words, but you don't actually get

2:40

assaulted or hurt like you do

2:42

with guns or hand grenades. Hurt your feelings

2:45

maybe, but nothing more. And

2:48

the very fact that they're trying to co-opt the words

2:50

and imagery of actual violence sort

2:52

of gives it away. They don't want to

2:55

admit that they're just coming in as censors. They

2:57

want to pretend it's different in some way, that they're

2:59

actually coming out against violence, when

3:02

in fact they're precisely coming against just

3:04

your speech.

3:06

But can someone please tell me what hate speech

3:08

is? I

3:10

know what hate is, it's a human emotion.

3:12

It's a natural emotion like love, contempt,

3:16

respect. These are feelings or emotions.

3:18

You can't just turn them off. They're

3:20

hardwired in you, by the way, after

3:22

countless generations, they're part of being human.

3:26

You can no more ban the emotion of hate than you

3:28

can prescribe the emotion of love. You

3:30

just can't. You have to govern

3:32

your hate. You have to control yourself, not

3:34

like a baby maybe. You have to turn

3:37

your feelings into something productive and

3:39

positive, but you can't

3:40

turn off your feelings. And

3:43

in fact, if someone simply tells you not

3:46

to feel a feeling, don't

3:48

you always feel it more? Don't love him.

3:51

Don't hate me. When

3:54

you're told you can't feel a feeling, it doesn't

3:56

turn it off.

3:58

So that's hate.

3:59

And speech is obvious, isn't

4:02

it? It's an expression of your ideas, what

4:05

you think and feel, your imagination, your plans,

4:07

your ideas, how you react to things.

4:09

Some of it will be motivated by love, some by hate, some

4:12

by just the processes of your day. But

4:14

if you truly are love or hate something, you will likely

4:17

be moved to express it.

4:19

How many crummy pop songs are being written because

4:21

someone felt in love? Well,

4:24

people speak out because they feel the emotion of hate

4:26

too. And I think that on average,

4:28

that's probably a good thing.

4:31

Because speaking

4:33

is peaceful. Speaking is not violence.

4:36

Speaking is a safety valve, or it can

4:38

be. Especially if you take your negative

4:41

emotions and transform them into a call

4:43

for positive action to fix

4:46

the underlying grievance that has caused you

4:48

the painful feeling of hate.

4:50

Hate typically comes from a sense of injustice

4:53

or another grievance. You're not

4:55

gonna get someone to turn off those feelings until you

4:57

fix

4:58

the problem underneath it.

5:00

In a psychoanalyst's couch, you might have

5:02

to dig deep into a person

5:04

to find out what is causing them feelings

5:07

of anger. In the political

5:09

sphere,

5:10

people often tell you

5:12

what is causing their anger.

5:14

And they might be wrong and they might be right and they might be

5:16

mistaken, they might be unfair. But in our democratic

5:19

society with our civil liberties, we invite

5:21

people to air their grievances in the public square

5:24

and to negotiate with others and to find a harmonious

5:26

outcome.

5:28

Sometimes, by the way, people just wanna be heard.

5:30

They wanna feel like they have some control

5:33

or power over their own lives, by the way.

5:35

We lost a lot of that over the last three years. People

5:38

had terrible grievances, genuine grievances

5:40

and injustices done to them. People

5:43

were attacked

5:44

by the folks who claim they care. People's

5:47

funerals and weddings were canceled. People's churches

5:49

were closed. Their businesses were closed.

5:52

Their schools were closed. They were fired

5:54

if they didn't take a medicine they didn't understand

5:56

or want. And don't tell me the government didn't

5:58

whip up hate itself.

6:00

Look at this hate monger. You

6:02

know what? If you don't want to get vaccinated,

6:05

that's your choice. But

6:12

don't think you can get on a plane or

6:14

train beside vaccinated people.

6:19

The

6:20

small fringe minority of

6:23

people who are on their way to Ottawa

6:26

or who are holding unacceptable

6:29

views that they're expressing

6:33

do not represent the

6:36

views of Canadians who have been there

6:38

for each other. Yeah, we were lied to for three

6:40

years about everything. We were harmed economically,

6:43

socially, even physically. There are feelings

6:46

of hate out there, and the answer is to air

6:48

it out,

6:49

to give people a forum, to hear them, and to address

6:51

their concerns. Truth and reconciliation,

6:54

as they say.

6:55

Truth always moves, of course, to

6:57

denounce anyone with concerns as racist

7:00

or whatever. He

7:20

always does that, doesn't he? Always.

7:23

So that's hate and that's speech, but you put

7:25

the two words together and they come up with some new idea.

7:28

Hate speech, what is that?

7:31

Words are words, ideas are ideas. The facts are

7:33

correct or not. The opinions are reasonable

7:35

or not. But what does hate have to do with it?

7:38

Can you say the exact same words,

7:40

the exact same sentence twice, but

7:43

the first time you have hard feelings in your heart,

7:46

and the second time you don't? Is

7:49

the first instance illegal and the second is fine?

7:52

Why does it make a difference what you feel in your heart, what

7:55

words you say?

7:56

Can you oppose vaccine mandatory

7:59

jabs? If you're full of love

8:01

but not if you're full of hate and who can tell by the

8:04

way? Isn't

8:06

the whole notion of hate speech just like

8:08

the notion of disinformation and misinformation? It's

8:11

just a way for one side to denounce the other

8:13

side. I Have

8:15

an opinion. He has this information.

8:18

I am motivated by passion.

8:21

He is motivated by hate speech

8:24

Really isn't it just an attempt to criminalize disagreement

8:27

to shut it down? Shut it off

8:29

before it even begins

8:32

Isn't it just a form of cancel culture a

8:34

form of Nationalizing the language of

8:36

having governments in the position to tell us what

8:39

we can or can't say and therefore what

8:41

we can or can't think

8:43

and imagine the United Nations doing

8:45

that the UN an unelected

8:48

body dominated by Russia and China and Iran

8:50

and every dictatorship in the world not that Joe

8:53

Biden or Rishi Sunak or Justin Trudeau are

8:55

much better

8:58

So let's look at what the UN has to say

9:00

if you click the link on that tweet you come

9:03

to this page on the UN's website

9:06

Countering dark age of intolerance

9:08

starts by tackling hate speech While

9:10

there's so much in so few words

9:12

there a dark age of intolerance really

9:16

And the way to stop it is by tackling hate

9:18

speech really by censorship That's

9:21

the way to bring us out of the dark ages to

9:23

censorship So

9:25

censorship is not the problem. It's the cure is

9:27

it Let's

9:29

read a bit From institutionalized

9:32

racism to genocide the roots are the same

9:35

According to people on the front lines of change who

9:37

shared their stories with UN News ahead

9:39

of the International Day for countering hate speech Observed

9:42

on Sunday. Hey, did you observe the

9:45

holiday?

9:46

But hang on

9:50

Institutionalized racism I know what that is. That's

9:52

like South African apartheid or it's

9:54

like genocide

9:56

Which means murdering people who are part of a

9:58

particular ethnicity

9:59

That's not hate speech. That's

10:02

actual physical violence or actual actions,

10:05

like racist laws.

10:08

The very headline shows that the problem

10:10

isn't words, it's laws or physical violence.

10:13

And the absence of laws to protect people from physical

10:15

violence, in both cases, free

10:18

speech is the solution, not the problem. But

10:22

look at this next line, and this is said with approval,

10:25

social media's role in crushing

10:28

hate speech. They love

10:30

the idea of crushing hate speech. They love

10:32

saying crushing. They want you to think

10:35

they will only crush bad speech,

10:37

but they get to define

10:39

what that is. From COVID-19

10:42

to climate change, hateful exchanges,

10:44

among those with opposing views, is a growing concern,

10:47

said Latifah Acrebach,

10:50

president of the High Authority of Audio-Visual

10:53

Communication in Morocco.

10:56

So right there, if

10:58

you disagree with COVID-19 policy, lockdowns,

11:00

faxing mandates, travel bans, closed

11:03

churches, whatever, you're hateful.

11:06

If you disagree with climate action, but

11:09

of course. And who would know

11:11

better than someone from the High Authority

11:13

of Audio-Visual Communication in

11:15

Morocco?

11:17

That is such a wonderful job title, isn't it? You

11:19

might think that you are an authority in audio-visual

11:22

communication. I mean, you watch TV

11:24

and you listen to radio,

11:26

and I bet you surf the internet a lot, including

11:29

on your phone. Do you think that Latifah

11:31

Acrebach, president of the High

11:33

Authority of Audio-Visual Communication or

11:35

Morocco, no less, has any

11:38

special knowledge, let alone moral authority,

11:41

more than you do? When it comes to the internet,

11:44

what a laugh that title is. But they

11:46

say it with complete seriousness. Now, I

11:48

like Morocco. I've never been there. But

11:50

I like what I know. It's dictatorship scope. It's

11:52

probably one of the gentler ones.

11:54

But it does have a hereditary

11:57

king who runs the place. He

11:59

is a dick.

11:59

dictator, maybe a friendly one. Freedom

12:02

House, which ranks the freedom of the world's countries, calls

12:05

it partly free.

12:06

Here's their summary of their in-detail

12:09

report on the country.

12:11

Morocco holds regular multi-party

12:13

elections for parliament, and reforms

12:15

in 2011 shifted some authority over government

12:17

from the monarchy to the elected legislature. Nevertheless,

12:20

King Mohammed VI maintains dominance

12:23

through a combination of substantial formal powers

12:26

and informal lines of influence in the state and society.

12:29

Many civil liberties are constrained in practice. Yeah,

12:33

so the UN is really picking the right people to tell

12:35

us how to use our freedom of audio-visual

12:37

communication. Super gross. Anyways,

12:40

back to the UN website. The

12:43

international community's failure in managing

12:46

and regulating migration fuels

12:48

the sponsors of hate

12:50

speech and helps them follow through

12:52

with their plans, she said, calling

12:54

on governments to adopt fair positions

12:57

in the face of separation movements, terrorism,

12:59

and violation of human rights. I

13:03

honestly don't even know what that means. I've read it three

13:05

times. I don't know what it means, but apparently social

13:07

media is responsible for everything from separatist

13:09

movements to terrorism. Some

13:12

of the separatist

13:12

movements she no doubt is talking about go

13:14

back centuries. How

13:17

does social media, which is basically 10 years

13:19

old, blame?

13:21

Or just hear me out. Maybe,

13:23

just maybe.

13:25

She's part of an unfree dictatorship that's looking

13:27

for a way to justify cracking down on

13:30

the freedom tool of the internet that

13:32

her boss doesn't like.

13:34

Here's someone else the UN wants

13:36

us to listen to. Had social media

13:38

existed in 1994, the genocide

13:40

against the Titsi in Rwanda

13:43

would have been much worse, according to survivor

13:45

Henriette Mutegwaraba, who

13:48

recalled the hate speech propagated via

13:50

radio at the time. A message

13:52

that used to take years to spread can now

13:54

be put out there, and in one second everybody in the

13:57

world can see it, she said.

13:59

talk in Instagram it would mean much worse.

14:02

The bad people always go to youth whose

14:05

minds are easy to corrupt.

14:07

Who is on social media now? Most

14:09

of the time young people.

14:11

But you heard her refer to radio and

14:14

that's the thing. I mean look at

14:16

this study here. There's one

14:18

story, this is a study from Concordia University.

14:21

Here's a study from Duke.

14:23

It is very well documented that the genocide

14:26

of Rwanda was whipped up by radio,

14:29

which is instant of course.

14:31

And easy for everyone to hear.

14:33

Newspapers too of course. Obviously the same

14:35

thing in Hitler's Germany. You

14:37

don't need social media for a genocide.

14:41

But the difference between a radio station and a newspaper

14:43

on the one hand,

14:45

and

14:46

I add in TV stations or movies

14:49

like I know Lenny Riefenstahl's famous

14:52

propaganda movies for Adolf Hitler.

14:55

The difference between TV and movies and newspapers

14:57

and radio stations on the one hand is that

14:59

those are hard to get

15:01

and hard to use. No ordinary

15:04

person can just get a radio station or a TV

15:06

station in a newspaper. In Rwanda, in

15:08

Hitler's Germany, in Soviet Russia,

15:11

those were owned and controlled by the government

15:13

and their allies. There was

15:16

no people's press to talk

15:18

back. There was no opposition. That's

15:20

what TikTok and Twitter and Facebook and Instagram

15:23

are. Ordinary people can

15:25

use them to fight back and

15:28

can connect instantly with people around the world.

15:31

TikTok wouldn't have caused

15:33

the Rwandan genocide. It was

15:35

caused by violence from the government.

15:37

But maybe TikTok could have helped ordinary

15:40

people fight back by giving them a voice by

15:42

spreading the word.

15:44

Hate speech laws in Rwanda and

15:46

hate speech laws in, I don't know, China,

15:49

the Soviet Union,

15:51

they wouldn't help you fight against hate

15:53

or genocide. Obviously they're

15:56

used against the enemies of the

15:58

state. You were called the hate.

17:59

They hate Twitter now. Twitter used to

18:02

enforce censorship. Now it

18:04

defies censorship. Just a quick

18:06

example. Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is

18:08

running as a Democrat to challenge Joe Biden

18:11

in the Democratic presidential primary.

18:13

He's polling very well,

18:16

but he's being blacklisted by social media

18:18

companies. YouTube literally

18:20

deleted his interview. He

18:23

could be president, but

18:25

they've already set the precedent by banning

18:28

Trump, who was the sitting president at the time. Of

18:30

course they ban

18:31

Kennedy, who criticizes the

18:34

CIA and Big Pharma,

18:36

but not Twitter. They're platforming

18:38

him.

18:40

Tucker Carlson now does his TV show

18:42

direct to Twitter and gets tens

18:44

of millions of views each time, sometimes

18:47

more than a hundred million views. That's 20

18:50

or 30 times more than he got before

18:52

when he was on Fox.

18:54

They're coming to stop Elon Musk and Tucker

18:56

Carlson and R.F.K. Jr. There's

19:00

no one they won't try to stop

19:03

by any means necessary.

19:06

Don't think they won't come for you too.

19:10

Stay with us for more.

19:16

I tell

19:23

you, Twitter is free, but

19:25

it is an amazing, fascinating,

19:28

and valuable tool, now more than

19:30

ever, now since it has been

19:32

turned into a free speech platform

19:35

by Elon Musk. Let me show you an interesting

19:37

exchange from a few days ago.

19:40

It starts when our Canadian

19:43

professor and public intellectual, Jordan

19:45

Peterson, tweeted this. He said,

19:48

referring to the College of Physicists, College

19:50

of Psychologists of Ontario, that's

19:52

having a hearing

19:53

on his political wrong thing. He

19:55

said, according to Canada, it's going

19:57

to rule on the College of Physicians Ontario

19:59

decision

19:59

to sentence me to mandatory

20:02

re-education. On June

20:05

21st for my reprehensible political

20:07

views,

20:08

the process is called a judicial review.

20:10

And then Elon Musk

20:12

himself answered saying,

20:15

re-education is

20:17

such an interesting term. Where

20:20

have I heard that before?

20:23

Well someone who knows and

20:25

someone who lived through it is

20:27

our guest today. Her

20:29

name is Xi Van Fleet. I'll introduce her

20:31

in a moment, but here's what she wrote. She

20:34

said in reply, I not

20:37

only heard about this term more than 50

20:39

years ago, I also lived through it.

20:42

Mao coined this term. With

20:45

his order, millions of urban

20:47

youths and red guards were sent

20:49

to the countryside to receive their re-education

20:53

from poor peasants to

20:55

be true communists.

20:58

And look at this, this is terrifying.

21:00

This is the only photo I have of me

21:03

in the center. As a young high

21:05

school graduate who is exiled to the countryside, my

21:07

re-education lasted for three years until

21:10

Mao died in the picks. I

21:12

was with friends at the Dam Reservoir

21:14

we helped to build with our bare hands.

21:17

Never in my wildest dreams did I imagine that this

21:20

term would one day make its way to America.

21:22

Yes, re-education is

21:24

indoctrination by coercion

21:27

and force. And just one last tweet because

21:29

it's so, you've got to follow

21:32

our guest on Twitter, Xi Van

21:34

Fleet, but just one more tweet and then we'll get

21:36

to her straight away.

21:38

She shows an old Maoist

21:40

propaganda poster and

21:43

says, old propaganda poster,

21:45

educated youths should go to the countryside

21:47

to get their re-education from

21:50

poor peasants. Well

21:52

what does that mean and how is

21:54

it related to what they're doing to Jordan

21:56

Peterson and others with wrong

21:59

think?

21:59

Joining us now is Xi Van Fleet.

22:02

Xi is a survivor of

22:05

Maoism, and the author of

22:07

the forthcoming book, Mao's America,

22:10

a survivor's warning.

22:12

You can pre-order it on Amazon now. Xi,

22:15

it's a pleasure to have you back on the show,

22:18

and thank you again for weighing in with

22:21

such an interesting lesson

22:23

from history. Tell me about what

22:25

re-education meant 50

22:27

years ago. How did

22:30

you get selected for

22:32

it? Tell us your own story,

22:34

first of all. Yes, and

22:37

in order to understand re-education, I

22:39

have to introduce another term, and I think

22:41

this term will make into American lexicon.

22:44

It's called thought reform.

22:46

The whole purpose of re-education is

22:49

to get rid of the so-called

22:52

bourgeois thoughts, the thoughts

22:54

that is not

22:56

pure communist. So

22:58

we have to get rid of, how do you get rid

23:00

of those thoughts? You'll do it

23:02

by physical labor. So

23:04

we're supposed to

23:06

work with the peasants, live

23:08

with the peasants, but most of all,

23:11

we have to think as the

23:13

peasants do. And what does that

23:15

mean? That means give up any

23:18

critical thinking skills. Get

23:20

rid of it. That's not good. You

23:22

need to follow the party

23:24

line and be just like the peasants, follow

23:27

the party. And that is what the

23:29

re-education is for. So today,

23:32

the bourgeois is really the

23:36

conservative ideologies, the

23:39

American funding

23:41

principles. Those are the bourgeois thoughts

23:44

that need to be corrected through

23:47

re-education camp.

23:49

Well, why were you chosen?

23:51

How old were you? What did

23:53

you do to make you singled out?

23:55

Or I guess there were millions of you. Why

23:57

were you- No, no, it's not. It's nearly-

23:59

It's all the urban

24:03

youths that graduated from high school,

24:06

and we're all sent to the countryside. First

24:08

of all, there's no jobs. So it's basically a

24:11

way to

24:11

get rid of those youths and put them

24:13

into a countryside and work with the peasants.

24:16

I was 16 when I

24:18

went to the countryside, and I worked

24:20

in the fields in a very primitive

24:24

condition. One of the jobs we

24:26

did is to build a dam. And

24:29

I later added a picture. I don't

24:31

have my own of how we did it. We

24:34

dig the dirt, carry the dirt,

24:37

and dump it into another place. It was a back-breaking

24:39

task. So

24:42

what I learned, I learned nothing. I

24:44

learned that life was so hard, and

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I learned that it is a

24:49

good idea to get rid of any critical

24:52

thinking skills. So you just don't think. You

24:55

just do it. All you need to

24:57

do is follow the water, and that's

24:59

the purpose of re-education.

25:01

And can you compare

25:04

that? I mean, you weighed in with this personal

25:06

revelation, this personal story, and

25:09

even a photograph. When

25:12

Elon Musk and Jordan Peterson were talking

25:14

about

25:15

thought reform or re-education,

25:18

how are modern-day

25:22

thought reforms comparable to what

25:24

you lived through under Mao Zedong?

25:27

What are the common elements?

25:29

In Jordan Peterson's case, his

25:32

professional association

25:34

condemned him to re-education.

25:37

How is that the same as what Mao did?

25:41

It's the same thing. It's like one of the

25:44

20s, called sensitivity 20. It's

25:47

basically get rid of what you have in

25:49

your mind that does not agree

25:52

with the party. And

25:54

the party, which is in

25:56

China, the CCP, here's the Democratic

25:59

Party.

27:59

This 26-year-old girl was shot

28:02

for the crime of sleeping with multiple

28:04

men.

28:05

And then you make the comparison, and I'll

28:07

ask you to expand on this in a second. You say,

28:10

American Marxist, not capitalism,

28:13

promote queer theory because it is a useful

28:15

tool to destabilize society.

28:18

When they achieve absolute power, they will ban everything

28:21

they are promoting now if it does not help

28:23

them to maintain power in their new order. You

28:25

won't be allowed to be your authentic

28:27

self. You can only be what they allow

28:30

you to be. Not to understand this will be

28:32

lethal. You know, I suppose

28:34

it's another way to tap into the

28:36

enormous energy of young

28:38

people, teenagers,

28:40

people who are just discovering their

28:43

sexuality. And instead of restraining

28:45

it, saying, be a communist

28:48

and you can do free love, whatever you want,

28:50

you're unlocking a lot of power

28:54

because, you know, I suppose the sexual

28:56

interests and appetites of young people,

28:59

if you say, come with us and we won't

29:01

have any limits on you,

29:04

maybe that's what they're doing with this queer

29:06

theory. They're telling young people, don't control yourself,

29:09

but do whatever you want. We'll use your energy

29:11

to smash the establishment. Is

29:13

that the point you're making?

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Well, that's only one way. Yes,

29:18

they use race and they

29:20

use other

29:24

ways to divide people and

29:26

to get them in. And they can't get into their

29:28

camp to be revolutionaries. Okay, I can tell

29:30

you a little bit about my father. He

29:33

joined the revolution and

29:35

he had

29:37

arranged the marriage and they

29:39

were told to break away from

29:41

those old traditions and join the revolution.

29:44

You can have your authentic

29:46

self, you can choose whatever partner

29:48

you want. And

29:51

just what I said in Twitter, they

29:54

promote freedom, freedom

29:57

and that appeal to so

29:59

many young people.

33:59

who says, I'm pretty sure parents' feelings

34:02

get hurt when you mentally kidnap their children

34:04

and try to lead them down a path of depression, confusion,

34:06

and potential suicide, arrest the government.

34:10

Yeah, I think the giveaway of a lot of these

34:12

transgender activities

34:14

is that they're explicitly done keeping

34:16

the parents out of the loop. Sexuality

34:19

clubs at school that

34:22

are kept secret from parents. When a

34:24

grown-up says, let's talk about sex, but

34:26

don't tell your parents about our conversation, that's

34:29

a sign something terrible is going on. TCZ7742

34:33

says, these Muslims

34:35

have the right to say what they are saying. Even

34:38

as a non-religious person that has no issue

34:41

LGBTQ individuals,

34:44

I do have issues with bringing such sexuality

34:47

teaching into primary schools. That was the

34:49

point of the protest, it had nothing to do with the fact that Muslims

34:52

came to protest. I think you're right, and

34:54

I think that, I saw

34:56

a poll the other day that support

34:59

by Republicans for gay rights is falling.

35:02

How can that happen? I

35:04

think it's because the Q and

35:07

the T and

35:09

all those other letters are taking over the LGB.

35:13

I think that most Americans, including

35:15

most Republicans and here in Canada, most conservatives

35:18

have accepted,

35:21

tolerated or

35:23

welcomed equality for

35:25

gays, including even gay marriage.

35:28

But now that those victories

35:31

have been won by the gay rights movement, to

35:33

move into far more aggressive, invasive

35:36

and radical trans and queer

35:40

politics is appalling

35:42

and it proves the slippery slope arguments

35:44

of the right, correct. And

35:47

I think whereas before the message was tolerate

35:49

and accept, now it's obey and

35:52

submit and some of the extreme

35:55

activity that's been targeted at kids, I

35:57

think it is bad. And

36:00

I think that you see some gay

36:02

and lesbian activists desperately

36:05

opposed to the trans agenda,

36:07

including because the

36:09

trans answer to being gay is, oh,

36:11

you're in the wrong body. We got to cut you up,

36:14

which frankly would do great harm

36:16

to a large number of gays and lesbians.

36:18

What strange days we're in. That's

36:22

our show for today.

36:23

Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at

36:25

Rebel World headquarters to you at home,

36:28

good night.

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And keep fighting for

36:30

freedom.