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some support cleaning up the disaster it

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touches on some of these ideas running

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should we get the showdown yes

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i am i think we've been talking long enough for

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the show

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the

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planet is heating up the

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, crisis continues to be a crisis

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and if we want any sort of

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hitting the deadline to cut global carbon

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emissions in half by twenty thirty really

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get moving moving this week

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president joe biden pulled a move you might

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recognize to let folks on capitol hill

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know he's done waiting for them to do

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to on monday

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president been announced that he's kinda like

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supporters of espionage act

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in manufacturing clean energy policy

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domestically

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that's the other nisa a science

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and rico dello your boss and

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the a let's talk about the defense

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production that's that's a war power

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right why invoke a seer yes it's

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a big move is physically same clean energy

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technologies are worth investing

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in and that are critical to the national security

2:57

of the country and the garments willing to support

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them enough the market would prefer to import

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energy or energy technologies from foreign countries

3:04

for less money itself to be

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problems one is that the

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us is currently

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when there's invaded ukraine and we all

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saw gas prices go up because now

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the banners oil and it gets much

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needed money to domestic manufacturers

3:22

are these acknowledges who otherwise

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might find us as competing with cheaper

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imports and and losing out

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okay but forgive me if i'm harping on this

3:34

idea of the defense production at beagle

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war power this doesn't seem

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like something you would use

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it for like maybe you use it for the

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tanks but not solar panels

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historically that's exactly right you know like

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you said the defense like and that was used to retool

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automobile supply chains into

3:53

tanks and it's it's been used again

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and again to essentially past

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funding for military equipment i'm

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all kinds you know but in recent years these

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are seen as shift away from just

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using the defense production act from military equipment

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or the kind that we we usually think of to other

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things that are deemed critical

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for national security the

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biden and trump administration's both used to construct

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a knack for supplies later to cover nineteen

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and president biden recently used

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that fast russian act two help

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solve the baby formula crisis okay

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so

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give me all the details of how president biden

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is using the defense production at

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this time around

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though this week the fact that an act authorization

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specifically target solar technology heat

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pumps insulation green hydrogen

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melody and grid compliance like

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transformers he basically saying

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piece of all things that are critical for the energy

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infrastructure going forward he doesn't putting

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it to your freeze on tariffs for solar

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panels coming into the country from southeast asia

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this frees will allow

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you know my safari manufacturers to keep using

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solar power from elsewhere while outdoor

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soccer punish france up this

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creates thousand the manufacturing jobs

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manufacturing the clean energy industry energy industry

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and and can make the u s a lot less dependent on

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foreign gas and oil especially as the war and

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continues the part about

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using their defense production act to

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build new technology that will lessen

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our reliance on foreign energy

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makes total sense as like a national security

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thing but

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you walk me through the thinking about freezing terrorists

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on solar panels being imported from southeast

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asia that was very specific right

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so it's partially to give domestic

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manufacturers time to ramp up production but

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it's also because in actresses

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ask the things can add the most immediate positive

5:39

impact on the industry here because the

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indices been and and of a mess lately

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as a big investigation happening investigation the commerce

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department right now and to whether companies

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were dodging terrorists levied on

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chinese companies because these companies

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were importing panels and other solar

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technologies are from are few countries and

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southeast asia that might

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have manufactured in those countries by chinese

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companies and a winter taxes

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and there is a big fear that had this investigation

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could leave domestic solar installers

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solar manufacturer's a libel for billions

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of dollars and back terrorists and it

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was stopping the import of more

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panels and and about in meantime

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and so did this is operating thousands

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of workers operating the country is something like two hundred thirty

6:23

thousand workers in the thousand workers work

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in the solar industry and this investigation

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put hundreds of projects across country and holes

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which meant their jobs were in peril that

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it was a big way towards the actually

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fixing that towards letting the inflation

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products that are planned for next year's

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continue happening and also in the meantime

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domestic manufacturers can wrap up their production in

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a few years time

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got it so far all this makes sense and sounds

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good maybe to good what's the catch

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me

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one of the catches is that the impact

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of the defense get an act as limited as at

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it it's only got a few hundred million dollars

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which sounds like a lot and you

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know i'm is a fair amount of money

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by in the grand scheme of how this country

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works and the kind of investment as needed and clean

7:06

energy it's it's really not that much and

7:08

the other this can easily be revoked

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by a teacher mister even the summer

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session of his parodies change so

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it's not really got long term security

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as a as a solution for

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america's climate and clean energy crises

7:22

and lasting change really has a concert congress

7:25

is what my sources told me again and again for the

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bison mr since as to as own statements

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about the dps this is one step

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second the really help get

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the get the ball rolling in terms of clean

7:35

energy in the united states but congress

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we as a step up to make this truly a

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reality

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i didn't it has made clear in his statement

7:45

that he has not given up on congress the ghost of his

7:47

build back better bella sort of winding

7:49

its way through reconciliation you know there's

7:51

ongoing discussion about how democratic senators

7:54

still want to pass at least parts of

7:56

biden's climate agenda and that could unlock

7:59

hundreds of billions there's an incentive pay

8:01

more than the dp about occurred but

8:03

it really comes down to a bigger question of whether congress

8:05

can come to agreement on the climate crisis at all

8:07

republican senator pat toomey of pennsylvania

8:10

secret says biden for use

8:12

with dp a to further his

8:14

global warming agenda and it's

8:16

sort of just seems as if republicans aren't willing

8:18

to classify climate change as a national

8:20

emergency or even sometimes even at a reality

8:22

there's lots of jobs and and the planet

8:25

a know that will suffer the consequences

8:27

will inevitably it feels like a good

8:30

thing that clean energy projects the united

8:32

states are getting funding are

8:34

are being

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in the right direction by the by the administration but

8:38

also sounds like this move

8:40

is just another reminder that

8:43

the lesson right have a really hard time agreeing on this

8:45

issue and

8:47

note the world's i get any cooler that's

8:50

, right on the road could

8:53

get cooler and it could do so by

8:55

creating creating

8:57

of jobs and that's the thing is so baffling

8:59

to me to it feels like

9:01

a like a no brainer to make this

9:03

johnson and fantasy happen or

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in the ah thank you for genius thanks

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and

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today's episode was produced by taylor

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from hemlock creek productions i'm

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