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manny millan across ,

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country there's a certain something in the air

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right now well

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pollen and cincinnati innocent

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the pandemic turned the world of work totally

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upside down right now

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more than two years later there's actually a

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lot of positivity surrounding the future everybody

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probably seen at least some of these headlines

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right that the future of work is awesome

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and hear that say that's or guess today

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that is emily stewart she's here to

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explain if the work revolution is in

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fact as revolutionary as it seems

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though

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wages are rising he

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was getting paid morris the people

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who make the least week really

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sorry that companies really scrambling for

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employees having to give

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a lot of benefits employees having

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to give more paid employees

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really having say we want you to work

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for us and that gives voters

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more bargaining power So he's seen

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stories about high-profile Union

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efforts like Starbucks and Amazon,

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and overall, they're just all of these

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stories about remote work, is here to stay,

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and there is all of this

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work-life balance and remote work

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fixes, everything. the and everybody's un

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though

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let me guess you're in a poor some water on this emily

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what's the reality i think the story

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is a lot more

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okay there then we would think mean for

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a lot of workers the current state of work

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looks very much the same as it did two

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years ago and for some people or even a lot

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of people even worse one

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really perfect example here is that despite

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all of this was around high profile

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union efforts yeah we're

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seats a union membership in

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twenty twenty one again ,

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are going up but they aren't going up it's

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ass as inflation in some of those

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wage increases are starting to

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slow down and , of the

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changes in terms of bargaining power

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that we see in could go away quite

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quickly if the ucla the tower the

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back to the matter is a lot of the

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the remote work kind of

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exaggerates

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the people are actually able

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to work remotely most people

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still have to work in person

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you and i both i spoke

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to a lot of these people you know people who have to

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show up to care the on the computers

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who whose jobs necessarily

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require them to go

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to a physical location

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and we wanna touch them about what future work

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or what the president work looks like for them he

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lot people are doing more work

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with last helped a lot of

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companies

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the people of the third hand a mac

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and haven't brought them back just kind

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of have a lot uncertainty about have worker

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they need or of frankly can i get workers

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and so that hands leads to people having

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more work with let's help tighter one

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woman who the dishwasher at a hilton

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out in california and he

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of the things that she said with their you through multiple

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people and my sister now it's just me

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and ended as has returned to sort of normal right

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and visited bouncing back getting back to normal

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but i'm just one person and and you see this

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year as a consumer to you go to a restaurant

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and there's it's you are worker there

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are stretched thin are you

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a lot of people there pay has gone up

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some maybe but it hasn't

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but son the seller dealing with

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the same says as they were before the

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pandemic their boss doesn't quite

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get what they would really need for their job

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to be good or they're

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not getting the right tools for their job

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or they do need more people on shifter

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i'd has one u p s worker who was saying

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they have really strict requirements for how

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many packages are supposed to load and how fast

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are supposed to move and he's said you

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don't corporate doesn't understand is if i'm six

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feet tall and somebody else and five feet tall

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and taking longer stride i'm

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to maybe moving quicker or i

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more experience in a moving quicker and so they're

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also

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the disconnect things were not great before

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the pandemic in there just exactly the same

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it and you mention the pay thing

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and

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that's not what differences between people's individual

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experiences versus the aboriginal maybe the

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bls a scene wages go up but

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a lot people are like really

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your wages went up may have

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gray area i got one woman whom we

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see where did a nursing home goods pay had actually

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gone down during that's because there are some

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cuts to medicare and that has a it to her paycheck

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size a single the bigger narrative

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about working at super different and workers

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have all of this power and everybody's working

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from home really overshadows a lot

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what's happening to people on ground

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and what's happening to people just in their day

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to day lives right and what's happening

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is that their jobs are exactly the same or

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in some cases even worse you

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be on as i also think a lot the remote

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word stuff it's like they're like ultimately

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my jobs the same i just

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from my couch rather than the office which

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is awesome at fine we

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talk about an article held like the pandemic

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was evidence that the from it can do

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more for these people suffer but policy

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standpoint what would improve life

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for people and these working class jobs in our

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meeting the way i mean no live here

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is really anvil

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at the if we're talking about

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low wage jobs obviously one

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place to start is that higher federal

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minimum hey them are

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threats yes to pay the baltimore

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right now companies are paying people

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more because they kind of saskatoon to get

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people to work but again at some

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point they're going be a recession at some the

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burgers aren't going have as much power the

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neither going to be able to pay workers and

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they're going to take advantage of that situation

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there was all of this discussion of

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a fifteen dollar minimum wage for a

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while at the federal level and that

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we'll talk about anymore dead

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in congress mates

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this federal discussion has really been

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stuck for so long and it's important to remember

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that the federal minimum wage is seven dollars

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and the

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guy that got it so you don't need raise

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people pay but that in there is also stuff like it

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increase

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unemployment insurance and stuff like that during the pandemic

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mean this was really big deal i

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think we saw increase weekly

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unemployment benefits when the pin am a kid

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of six hundred dollars week better

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they went down to three hundred with a bit

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of a last in between we also saw

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the pool of people who could get unemployment

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insurance expansive with freelancer

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the contractor

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think it's important to point out that really helped

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see both we want people in

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between jobs to be able to

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a stay afloat and pay their bills

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and and not hurt the economy

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even more because the people can't pay their bills

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as that for every one fifth of one them to

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find better jobs their jobs that are

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sufficient for them and and there was lot

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of concern that all of this is in unemployment

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insurance was going to keep people of

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the workforce right they were

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worried that runs is gonna be on the door and

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that didn't happen most the evidence

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suggested that wasn't the case

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and so there is a world where you could see

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if the government again elicit unemployment

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insurance and saying how do we that's what

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could definitely

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should we have minimum standards

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for seats for benefits said

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we stand pool of people who are

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eligible so we put in place some sort of

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automatic see will either so that way

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next time they're the recession and again there

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will be one someday better

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and they make kids and automatically and we

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don't have to see

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congress haggle about it which we have

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for past couple of years has heard it

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here first

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there will be a recession some day according

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to million fewer guess as and then

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there's other stuff to that could solidify

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these predictions are make this workers lives

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a little bit better like unionized and right

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way unionizing making

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it easier to unionize would make difference

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out there is legislation then

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in congress that could make that

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happen again not really going

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anywhere uk that

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mandate paid leave you

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could just strengthen protections

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on the job in terms of health and

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safety there it is a laundry list

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thing that could be done where

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does not doing them and my friend i'd have to

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about that he or she sadly it's

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not a mystery what policies

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might make life better for workers

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but there's just not always lot of momentum

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in washington in are sufficient momentum

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to get things done the we have lot of options

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but where does not the making them

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i mean a big bummer but i do think late

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night tv sets of a negative nally

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of as of as tend to be it

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was cool during pandemic

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to see them as things that the federal

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government was able to do and obviously now

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there's a lot of haggling about what did

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you much this country and to inflation

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at all that kind of and stuff but i think the bigger

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picture here it is when

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government wants to it can do big

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things that are meaningful and people's

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lives and in their working lives

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right they can reach this whole group of people

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who to absurd of being left out left this

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fisher work fisher great conversation right

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and again paid leave not

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being mandated isn't just thing

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for people who are who have to wear

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percent like that's also a problem for office

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worker as everybody should care about this stuff family

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thanks so much for joining us thanks for having

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me the

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