Hello, and welcome to another episode of the Red Couch Theology podcast. Hey, this week, we are talking about some of the challenges we find in church leadership. Why is it that Christians are oftentimes the number one reason why people don't wanna be Christians? What's up with that? It's painful. Maybe you've been hurt by the church. We're gonna talk about some of those tensions and how we're not the best at evaluating what good leadership even looks like and how does this affect how we show up as Christians? So, without further ado, let's dive into these very convoluted questions right now.