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Now it's Red Eye Radio.

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Gary McNamara and Eric Harley talk

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about everything from politics to social

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issues and news of the day.

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Whether you're up late or you're

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just starting your day, welcome to

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the show. From the UNIDAN America

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Studios, this is

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Red Eye Radio. Hello and welcome.

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He is Gary McNamara. I'm Eric

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Harley. If it

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looks like a Thursday and

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walks like a Thursday, it's

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probably a Thursday. Gary, how

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are you? Good. Just chuckling, reading a couple

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of articles here. Whenever I laugh, I say,

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okay, I've

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got to bring that on the show. And this

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was David Harzeny from thefederalist.com. Here he

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goes. Veronica

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McDaniel, former chair of the Republican National

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Committee, was recently hired and then fired

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by NBC News when the talent

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unable to put

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up with even moderate dissent revolted

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on air. But

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one of the funniest moments of the McDaniel

1:11

blowup at NBC News came when

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former White House press secretary Jen

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Psaki, another political operative

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hired by the network, knew

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that the distinction between her

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and McDaniel was truth versus

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lies. What

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the holy hell

1:31

is she talking

1:34

about? It goes,

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only last week, Psaki

1:40

was lying about Donald Trump's

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bloodbath comment, which

1:45

every sentient being understands was

1:47

a metaphor for economic collapse,

1:49

and as the NBC host

1:52

explained, an embrace of political

1:54

violence or dehumanizing language. And

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let's set aside the election.

2:00

denialism of 2016 which

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she claimed was rigged

2:04

by Russia. Saki is

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proficient in lies big

2:09

and small whether she's

2:11

spreading run-of-the-mill lies about

2:14

how Democrats don't support abortion

2:16

until birth almost all do

2:18

or whether she's

2:21

telling the press that Biden's

2:23

dog Major had not bitten

2:25

secret service officers. He's

2:27

bitten them 24 times at least or

2:30

she's spreading hoaxes about Border

2:32

Patrol agents, whipping Haitian migrants.

2:35

Saki is a wellspring of

2:37

misinformation. Wow.

2:42

She excels at it. When

2:44

Democrats were campaigning to cram through

2:47

that massive welfare cronyism expansion agenda

2:49

first name build back better than

2:51

later the Inflation Reduction Act she

2:54

told the media that no economist

2:56

in the country was predicting higher

2:58

inflation because of massive government spending.

3:02

We know that wasn't true. Biden

3:05

at least had the decency to

3:07

contend that a serious economist

3:09

was warning of disaster. Of

3:11

course numerous respected economists including

3:14

well-known Democrats had warned that

3:17

injecting trillions into a hot

3:19

economy would

3:21

cause inflation. As

3:23

Saki well knew she

3:26

made her claim in November of 2021 a month earlier inflation

3:28

has risen

3:30

at its fastest level

3:32

since 1990. During

3:35

the Biden administration's deadly botching of the

3:37

Afghan withdrawal which saw 13

3:40

American servicemen murdered at Abbey Gate

3:42

outside of the

3:44

International Airport Saki said when the

3:47

administration tied

3:50

to a political timeline ignored

3:53

warnings from intelligence officials what

3:55

the terrorists were taking advantage of unsecured

3:58

paths that the US was encouraging. civilians

4:00

to use to get

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to the airport, Saki bragged

4:04

that all American citizens, Afghan

4:07

partners and allies were being

4:09

rescued. When

4:12

someone asked her how many Americans have been left

4:15

behind in the country, she indignantly

4:17

told them it was

4:19

irresponsible to say Americans are

4:21

stranded. But they

4:23

were right. John

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Kirby, the Pentagon spokesperson,

4:28

flippantly told the press only days

4:30

later we have Americans that get stranded

4:32

in countries all the time. Everybody

4:35

knew Jen Saki

4:37

was lying. Later

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the Senate Foreign Relations Committee found that as many as 9,000

4:44

Americans were left in Afghanistan

4:47

during the Biden administration's disastrous

4:49

withdrawal. An NGO report found that

4:51

the U.S. left behind 78,000 Afghan allies in

4:53

the chaotic

4:57

withdrawal. And

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then it just goes on and on and on and

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on and on to talk about you know the the

5:05

lies. But it was just because you and I said

5:07

the same thing. It was when she said it was

5:09

humorous and the same thing with what's his name. Oh,

5:15

I can't think of his name. Chuck

5:17

Topp? Yeah, Chuck Topp. Yeah. Yeah,

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it's you know a bunch

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of whiners because they

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don't want to. Here's

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the thing. Of all

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of the people on the right and I

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don't know that Ronna McDaniel is on the

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right. I can't tell you. If

5:36

you have any questions just look at Michael Steele. Of

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all the people on the right, she's

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not the one to be afraid of. No.

5:46

That would have been a cakewalk. Not at

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all. In fact, when they when they said

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when the headline came out, NBC

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hires Ronna McDaniel's like, well that's

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the perfect place. I'm assuming

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she's gonna have her own show

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at MSN. That's

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what I thought. I thought, well, they see

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that she belongs there. After

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a long time of conservatives

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believing that she belongs there, oh no,

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we can't have anyone. No, no, no. You

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know why? Because

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they would have to introduce her every time as

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the former head of the RNC. And

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that is just too painstaking for them

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to have to mention every time they

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introduce her. Now,

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it means diddly and squat. Well, they don't

6:34

– do they introduce Michael Steele that way? I

6:37

don't think anymore. But

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they would in the first few months of

6:43

her being on there. That would have been the case. Yeah,

6:47

because that would be her only

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credibility. Nobody knows who Ronna

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McDaniel is, so you're going to have to explain

6:53

it as you introduce her. And

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they couldn't – there's no way they can bring

6:58

themselves to say, oh, we've got

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the former head of the RNC. I

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wonder too if

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the word – because you

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would think. I don't know. You

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would just think. I mean, Chris Christie's been on

7:14

CNN for how long now? I mean, since

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he was governor, pretty much? And

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you would think – I don't know.

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If they make a deal, it would

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be, you know, look, we're going to

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need you to be NBC friendly, if

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you know what we mean here, Ronna McDaniel.

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You're going to have to – you know, we need to make

7:35

sure that you're in our corner. Maybe

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not. Or maybe that conversation happened somewhere

7:40

along the way, and it's like, nah,

7:43

she's going to say whatever she wants. And

7:46

of course, Chuck Todd can't quit crying because

7:48

he's a child. It's just

7:50

laughable. It really is. The whole thing is laughable

7:52

because at the end of the day, it means

7:54

nothing. Look, this is an

7:57

election. Issues versus

7:59

January. That's it. That's

8:02

what it is. And Democrats can't

8:04

debate any of the issues. Any

8:07

of the major issues that America

8:09

cares about, the Democrats can't debate

8:11

it. They don't want to deal

8:13

with anyone who will bring up an

8:16

issue right now because they

8:18

know. Chuck Todd knows,

8:20

Jen Psaki knows, Mika

8:22

knows, Joe does whatever

8:24

Mika says and thinks whatever Mika

8:27

thinks. So he knows that

8:30

they cannot debate on any

8:33

of the issues and

8:35

they panic when anybody

8:37

else is brought on. You

8:39

know, it's like, hey, you know,

8:42

when if I don't get to watch

8:44

the five often, but Jessica Tarlov is on there and

8:47

she had to make

8:49

the apology last week

8:51

to Tony Bobulinski because

8:53

she lied about something.

8:55

But they, you

8:58

know, it's like whether it was Bob Beckle

9:00

or Geraldo Rivera, you know, the conservatives are

9:02

gonna pound on them. It's like, yeah, we

9:04

want that. Yeah. Democrats

9:07

are completely the opposite.

9:09

Democrats have no confidence

9:12

that they can debate on any

9:14

issues where the any major issue

9:16

where the Democratic Party stands right

9:18

now. Well, I again, you know,

9:21

it's you have to look at it for what it

9:23

is. If you believe you're right,

9:26

if you believe you're on

9:29

that, you're justified in your positions, you

9:33

welcome bringing on anybody from

9:35

the opposition. Man,

9:38

bring it on. Can I get

9:40

her on my show first? Can

9:42

I do the whole hour with

9:44

her? Bring it on. But

9:47

they don't do that. And you

9:49

have to ask yourself why it's because they don't want

9:51

to have a debate. They don't want to have

9:53

questions thrown back at them. They don't want to do

9:55

that. No,

9:57

they can't do it. They want to go

9:59

along. with whatever the narrative is or in

10:01

the case of Scarborough, whatever his wife tells

10:04

him. Yep. Yes, dear. Yes,

10:06

dear. Joe yes,

10:09

dear. Joe

10:12

yes, dear Scarborough. That's right. And

10:15

we say that, by the way, just in case people,

10:17

you know, don't know this and we always make sure

10:19

that we throw this in. Joe

10:21

Scarborough was once viewed as a

10:24

conservative Republican. He was the representative

10:26

over one of the most conservative

10:28

districts in the United States in

10:31

Northwest Florida. Mm-hmm. And so

10:35

that's why we say it. He's changed every

10:37

major opinion as an adult. Yeah, Matt Gates

10:39

holds that seat for those that don't know.

10:41

Right. Currently. Yes. So

10:44

a lot of people don't. And I

10:47

think I said it yesterday.

10:49

You did too at our pre-show meeting. We're

10:51

getting to be so old that

10:54

we just know things and people say, well you

10:56

know you're really smart. No, we're old. Yeah, no.

10:58

Someone asked me that the other day. It was

11:00

something and I just popped out the

11:02

answer. And they were

11:04

like, how do you know that? It's

11:08

like it's been around for a

11:10

while. And for

11:12

me, one

11:14

of the most cringe-worthy moments I've ever seen

11:17

at a political

11:19

convention was Philadelphia,

11:21

the Republican Convention in Philadelphia in 2000.

11:24

Mm-hmm. Or early in

11:26

the afternoon, Joe Scarborough

11:28

got up there with

11:30

his band. Mm-hmm. And

11:33

they weren't good. That always goes good.

11:35

Yeah, it wasn't good. But I always

11:39

remember, you know, two things I

11:41

remember from that. Well, actually there's three

11:43

things. There's that,

11:46

there's the rock walking all around, and

11:49

everybody's the rock, it's the rock, it's

11:51

the rock, it's the rock. Mm-hmm. And

11:54

then I had my, it was

11:57

the only encounter I ever had with John Stewart. We talked for

11:59

about ten minutes. minutes as we were walking

12:01

someplace. And then

12:03

it was, uh, and

12:05

it's interesting because it came back up

12:08

again, uh, the, the school lunch program,

12:10

you know, uh, Biden wants to make

12:12

it. So everybody, every rich district district,

12:14

the, the school lunch, uh,

12:16

program applies to everybody, you know,

12:18

getting the subsidized lunch. And that's

12:20

when I had my debate

12:23

with Paul Bagala who had no idea

12:25

how the school lunch program went. I

12:28

remember that one. And then it's

12:30

also, I believe where I met Mark Levin

12:33

the first time. Right.

12:36

Those are the things I remember. Right. Uh,

12:39

but, um, yeah, but that was just Scarborough.

12:41

Just, it's important to, for people to know,

12:43

cause people don't know it. They have no

12:45

idea. I mean, that was, you know, that was

12:47

that was a 2000 that's almost a

12:50

quarter of a century ago. Yeah. That was a whole

12:52

other marriage ago for him. I'm

12:58

not wrong. We,

13:02

we've got a ton of things to talk

13:04

about and a perfect, and I've got this,

13:07

I saw this story yesterday and I didn't even want

13:09

to tell you about it. Cause it's not

13:11

a major story on a major issue, but

13:14

it's how the media, and this would be

13:16

the liberal media cause it came out of business insider tries

13:18

to put out

13:20

a shocking article in the rating.

13:23

And this time the rating of airports. And

13:27

how long you have to walk from

13:30

check-in to the gate and just wait till you see

13:33

how they, how they put this thing together

13:36

because it is the most bizarre thing it's like, let's

13:38

put it this way. The,

13:42

the, the longest, they

13:44

say the longest walk is, uh,

13:47

Dallas Fort Worth. Yeah.

13:49

We call it the green mile. The Dallas Fort

13:51

Worth. The Dallas Fort Worth and, and, uh,

13:54

uh, it's the longest walk of any

13:56

airport with 2.16 miles between check-in and

13:58

their gates. It's completely

14:01

false. Are

14:03

they saying on the average or if you

14:05

have to walk to another terminal? That's

14:07

what they're saying. Like if you check

14:10

in in a different terminal and decide

14:12

to walk instead of taking

14:14

the tram all around, if you decide

14:16

to walk, that the airport's so big,

14:18

you could walk 2.16 miles. But

14:21

the way they write it is, passengers at

14:23

Dallas-Fort Worth International have the longest walk of

14:26

any U.S. airport with 2.16 miles

14:28

between check-in and their gates. Oh wait, hold on,

14:30

hold on. We want people to believe that. Yeah,

14:33

stop coming to DFW Airport. You

14:36

should because it's a long walk. You should

14:38

go to another airport. That's

14:40

garbage. By the way,

14:43

I know, it's just, it's like we need

14:45

to make something that's controversial and these are

14:47

the airports with the longest walk. Yeah, but

14:49

nobody's walking. They've got transportation. Flying out to

14:52

Louisville last week on Wednesday, they

14:54

said we're moving, we were at D something and

14:56

we're moving to C something. I thought, okay, well,

14:58

we're going to go up and get on the

15:00

tram. We got up

15:02

and walked across and I don't know,

15:04

I guess it was a Skyway. It wasn't

15:07

that long of a walk, but we never

15:09

got on a tram and came down in

15:11

C. And I still don't know

15:13

how we did that. Is that part of

15:15

the, that must be part of the construction. I have

15:17

no idea what you're talking about. Yeah, we

15:19

went from D terminal to C and

15:22

we actually did walk. Well,

15:25

you can walk if you want. Right.

15:28

But this was going over, I mean, it wasn't,

15:30

it wasn't, it didn't seem like it was

15:32

all the way down. Like

15:34

if you drive, it's a long, long distance. It

15:36

wasn't that long of a distance. I almost always

15:39

have to take a tram when they change terminals.

15:41

But to go from D to C, you're crossing

15:43

the bridge. Right. Right.

15:46

It goes directly to it. It didn't even seem like

15:48

we were crossing the bridge is the point. I mean,

15:50

it seemed like really short, like really there. Well, it

15:52

must have been because they got the people. We were

15:55

on, we were on, yeah, we were on

15:57

one side of D and the same

15:59

side of. C, basically an adjacent site

16:01

of C. But I've never

16:04

changed terminals and walked that short of a distance

16:06

before. Yeah, I know. That's the bridge with the

16:08

people movers that go over. I've been on that

16:10

a couple times. And that was

16:12

just because I figured, but that's not 2.16 miles. No,

16:16

I wasn't making that point. I was saying it actually was

16:18

very short and we were walking and we were changing terminals.

16:20

That was my point. Yeah, so

16:22

it's just a stupid, stupid article. But

16:25

I just wanted to bring that because

16:27

it's just like, stop it. Stop making

16:29

something that, you know, real, well, impossible

16:31

that you could walk it. Well, yeah,

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I'm surprised that you don't like it

18:48

as much as you thought you did.

18:50

I actually respect your opinion more than

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from that radio. He's our crony, and I'm Gary McNamara. Some

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analysis on the Senate coming up here in

19:30

a little bit. Also,

19:32

I was just reading this article here.

19:34

Publishers shot, well, here's the headline. Breaking.

19:37

Simon and Schuster withdraws contract for

19:39

a major book about Biden's presidency

19:41

after lack of market interest. Yeah,

19:45

they're going forward, true story, with

19:47

a book about the White House

19:49

cat by Jill Biden. True

19:52

story. No. So

19:55

there's no interest in a Joe Biden

19:57

book, but the White House cat.

20:00

I mean, the dog hasn't eaten the cat yet.

20:02

Tried. I

20:05

just love it. Publishers Simon and Schuster has

20:07

terminated a contract with Alex Thompson. Axios'

20:13

national political correspondent for

20:15

a book centered on President Joe Biden's administration

20:17

signaling a new threat to the world. With

20:21

Alex Thompson, Axios' national political

20:23

correspondent for a book centered

20:25

on President Joe Biden's

20:28

administration signaling a

20:30

challenging market for Biden-related

20:32

literature. And from the

20:34

Associated Press just about a half

20:36

hour ago, Jill Biden wrote a

20:39

children's book about her White House

20:41

cat Willow that will be published

20:43

in June. Well,

20:48

man, there's so many places I could go here. You

20:51

can't make this up. This

20:53

is the Biden White House right here.

20:56

We've got no interest in Joe. Is

20:59

there anything else? There's

21:01

a White House cat. Yes!

21:05

We're doing a fuck on the cat. You're

21:34

listening to Red Eye Radio,

21:36

from the Unit and America

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Studios. And

21:45

good morning. Did

21:49

you see the new

21:51

rule in the NFL for kickoffs? No,

21:53

I was busy trying to preorder Joe Biden's

21:55

book about a cat. Not

22:01

on pre-order yet. You

22:04

know how they kicked off from the 30-yard

22:06

line? Right. And you know,

22:08

everybody goes down. Well, now the kicker will

22:11

stand alone at the

22:13

30-yard line and everybody

22:16

rushing down the field will

22:18

be at the other team's

22:21

40-yard line. They'll

22:25

be 30 yards in front

22:27

of the kicker. And

22:29

it's so they can't get a lot of speed and injure

22:32

the kicker and injure because they have so

22:34

much – it's the most

22:36

dangerous, as they've said, the

22:38

most dangerous play in football

22:42

because you run – you know, you're

22:44

running 50, 60 yards and you've got a head

22:47

of steam coming up when you hit that other

22:49

person. And so they're

22:51

making it where you kick off, but

22:53

your teammates are 30 yards in

22:56

front of you, so when everybody

22:58

hits each other, they're only got maybe

23:00

five, six, seven, 10 yards to hit

23:02

the people that are in the wedge

23:04

or whatever, or maybe 20 yards, but

23:06

not 50 or 60 yards.

23:08

Right. So it's not going to be

23:10

as fun. No, it's going to be weird to look at. Yeah. Well,

23:13

I mean, it's – and I joke about it

23:15

being fun, not being fun for the

23:17

players, but I mean, if

23:20

you don't have a running start, it's just going

23:22

to – what is it going to be? You

23:24

know what I mean? Like you got

23:26

football? Yeah, exactly. It's going

23:29

to be flag football or

23:32

touch football, or as we call it now,

23:34

grope football. It's not going

23:36

to be – if you're not – the

23:39

idea is, you know, I mean, you've got to take

23:42

out some players, but

23:44

if we're going to do that, then I think

23:48

that when they line up, any

23:54

team is trying to move the ball

23:56

forward on

23:58

the line of scrimmage, right? the

24:01

opposing team, the defense line has

24:04

to be 20 yards down. Because

24:09

it would help quarterbacks, right?

24:13

I mean, if it saves just one

24:16

concussion, it would be worth it. Well,

24:18

no, it would actually make

24:20

concussions worse. Well, it would take them longer to

24:22

get to the quarterback. The quarterback would have a

24:24

lot more time. Yeah, but it wouldn't

24:26

be the quarterback to be getting the concussion. It

24:29

would be the offensive line hitting the defensive linemen

24:31

or the linebackers. Well, nobody cares about it. We

24:33

only care about quarterbacks. Nobody

24:39

does books on concussions of

24:42

offensive linemen. Well, then you can't tackle

24:44

a quarterback. Everybody else plays

24:46

tackle, and the quarterback has a flag.

24:48

That's the natural progression. Here's

24:51

a question I have 50 years from now. You

24:54

know, we'll both be gone. But

24:57

50 years from now, we'll be 108. I'll be fine. Will

25:01

they eliminate completely tackling?

25:11

And will anybody pay

25:13

a $100,000 personal seat license

25:15

to watch flag football or

25:17

touch football? Well, let's combine

25:19

fantasy football and actual football.

25:22

And I think we're getting closer

25:24

to that point and now throw

25:26

in AI. No

25:28

humans involved at all. Madden

25:34

football. Robots are going to get $30

25:36

million contracts per season. Everything

25:40

is Madden AI. Yeah. Yeah.

25:47

And it will – because the wagering

25:50

now is a thing, so then

25:52

the wagering will determine, and

25:54

fans can determine, and you

25:57

know, well, you've got to support your

25:59

– in your virtual

26:01

quarterback, otherwise he won't have

26:04

enough, you know, virtual

26:07

points, energy to

26:09

get through a game. You

26:11

know, the best thing is that

26:14

California Angels pitcher, that

26:16

the whole gambling thing, the whole gambling

26:18

scandal that's going on, and him and

26:21

his interpreter, we're talking about the Japanese

26:23

player, Otani,

26:25

and our great

26:27

friend, great friend of the show, I mean really

26:29

great friend of the show, Darrell

26:32

Parks, who used to be the program director at

26:34

WLW. Yeah, right. And

26:37

he's now, he's

26:40

retired and living in Buffalo, but he

26:42

posted this yesterday and it was great.

26:44

It was about the whole situation there,

26:47

about gambling and baseball. And

26:50

it's like there's a guy, there's a guy, Jeff,

26:52

it looks like on X, who wrote

26:54

this. This

26:57

is the best ever, because it's

26:59

a whole gambling scandal and they're trying to figure

27:01

out what the truth is. Welcome

27:03

back to SportsCenter presented by ESPN

27:05

VET. For more on the Otani

27:07

situation, we go to our FanDuel

27:10

and Major League Baseball insider, Jeff

27:12

Passion, at our Drafts King Studio

27:14

in Los Angeles, brought to you

27:16

by Caesar Sportsbook. Jeff, how

27:18

could something like this happen? Well,

27:23

you and I have looked at it and

27:26

said, look, why, I

27:28

mean, you know, the whole Pete Rose thing. Pete

27:32

Rose now would, you know, I mean,

27:34

these days would have two major, three

27:37

major, four major contracts. I

27:39

mean, if we're moving in that direction,

27:43

you and I talked about it with the whole

27:45

steroids and baseball. Man, that goes back a while.

27:49

Wow. Yeah, right. And

27:51

Sami Sosa. Yeah. And

27:53

so it was like, all right. Well,

27:57

my thought was, no, let's do it.

28:00

a full-on steroids league, like

28:04

40-inch arms coming out there and just

28:06

the arms. Only the arms are 40-inch.

28:09

The legs are normal. Oh, wait.

28:11

Uh-huh. I'm

28:13

kidding here. I'm totally kidding. If

28:16

men can now play women's sports,

28:18

uh-huh, then can women then legally

28:20

do steroids in order to compete

28:22

with the man? We asked that

28:24

question because if we're talking about

28:26

the difference in the hormones

28:29

and that you don't, if there

28:31

is no standard that says, uh,

28:33

with any league or organization, whether

28:36

it's a collegiate league or a professional organization

28:39

or whatever it is, if there was not,

28:41

if there's not to be any standard where

28:43

it says, okay, you've got to prove that,

28:46

you know, at this point that you, you

28:49

don't have, uh, a

28:51

much higher rate of, of

28:54

even naturally of, of male

28:56

hormones. If you're transgender and

28:58

playing in a female league and blah, blah,

29:00

blah, you're trying to even out the field

29:03

if you were going to go that way. Well,

29:07

otherwise you could go the

29:09

other direction and say, ladies, go

29:14

at it. And, you know,

29:16

I mean, we've, we've had this conversation

29:18

about also the

29:20

betting and everything else going on in

29:22

professional sports. It's I

29:26

you're, you're promoting it all the,

29:29

the, the

29:31

presentation is

29:34

filled with the promotion of it and

29:38

yet it's such a scandal. And I

29:40

understand the difference between fans and players.

29:42

I get that. And there is a

29:45

con there is most definitely a conflict

29:47

of interest. And we've seen

29:49

that come to a head. We've seen

29:51

that conflict of interest play out when

29:53

it wasn't done on the up

29:55

and up. And, and all

29:57

that's great, but what if we just

29:59

said. Okay, forget it all. Everybody

30:03

just go out. Steroids, betting,

30:06

drinking. I have friends who

30:08

sit on their phone and they don't bet a lot,

30:10

but they bet on,

30:13

you know, because you can bet anything now

30:15

almost on sports. I don't get it. And

30:18

again, people have gambling

30:20

addictions. And I'm not saying the people that

30:22

I know. But I just,

30:24

I've never had any interest

30:27

except when I

30:29

was in my late

30:32

twenties. And I used

30:34

to have somebody came up with the idea. I used to have

30:36

Friday night poker games at my house. Oh,

30:38

I have an interest in gambling.

30:41

I don't get the sports betting. I don't

30:43

get the fantasy league stuff. Yeah, I just

30:45

don't. I have, I just don't get

30:47

any interest in gambling at all. I mean, I

30:49

know, I do. I just no urge at all

30:52

to do it. Yeah, I play all the time.

30:54

It's just, I don't get the, I don't

30:57

get the fantasy league thing. You

30:59

know, the picking this player and picking it's,

31:01

you know, for me, I get

31:03

the idea of squares. Remember the one you

31:05

used to do often. Oh yeah. Yeah. It's

31:07

like, all right. I guess fun. I get,

31:09

you know, just a basic, all right, or

31:12

betting on a team. All right. I bet

31:14

this team, but the sports thing, the sports

31:16

gambling is, it's, it's, is a whole other

31:18

creature. It's, you know, all right, we're

31:21

going to, which is interesting because what

31:23

are you doing? You're, you're

31:25

hedging your bets by, all right, we

31:27

got to know which players are healthy.

31:30

We got to know how

31:33

this team does during

31:35

this part of the season or on

31:37

the road or blah, blah, blah,

31:40

new coach and all these things are factored in

31:42

that changes it. And man, that's too

31:44

much math. You

31:47

know what I mean? So you just pulled

31:49

a lever kind of guy? Well, no, no,

31:52

the thing is about gambling. And that's, that's

31:54

my point. It, while

31:57

investing is a gamble of sorts.

31:59

If you're an investor, you're a gambler, you're

32:02

taking a risk. Well, but

32:05

if you're going to do a calculated risk, it

32:08

would be, in my opinion, on

32:10

something like that, that would be

32:13

a long term play. Well,

32:16

I guess if you talk about,

32:18

you know, you can say investing

32:20

is gambling, but the

32:23

percentage of people that

32:25

benefit of a positive return

32:28

are way greater than the gambling

32:30

industry. Well, sure, but it may not be as

32:33

great. Yeah.

32:35

My point is that it's a calculated

32:37

risk. And if you're looking at calculated

32:39

risks in sports betting, well,

32:42

there's a much better game for that.

32:45

And that would be the calculated risk. When

32:48

I spent two weeks in Vegas and I

32:50

was working, but I

32:52

spent a quarter. That was it. I

32:55

went to a one arm bandit through in a quarter. I

32:58

walked around and

33:00

once they knew I was staying in the hotel, they didn't

33:02

bother me, but people came up, they go, are you

33:04

gambling? I said, no, I just, I'm walking around. I'm

33:07

staying here. I'm working. Oh, okay. There was no,

33:09

but then they, then they got, then I found out. Why did, why

33:11

did, why did they ask you that? Cause I

33:14

was just walking around looking. Yeah.

33:16

People do that all the time. That's weird. They would, they would

33:18

ask me. They came up. It was a smaller, smaller

33:21

hotel, smaller casino. Yeah. They came up. One

33:23

guy came up and said, you know,

33:25

can we help you? I said, I'm just staying here. I'm

33:27

just looking around. I really don't gamble. And so, but I'm

33:29

staying here. He goes, oh, okay. No problem at all. It's

33:31

fine. Right. And, um, yeah.

33:34

And then I met some people, I

33:36

met, uh, uh, a server and

33:38

a bartender who were both from Buffalo. So then

33:40

I had no problem. It's happened like the first

33:42

day and I was just standing, watching and, and

33:45

whatever, and somebody came up to me. So,

33:47

you know, maybe I looked suspicious back then.

33:50

Yeah, probably. But I was, were you taking

33:52

pictures? No. Yeah.

33:54

Cause if you're taking pictures of other people,

33:56

gambling, that's frowned upon. Most, most houses will

33:58

say no. No,

34:01

but I would say you can take pictures like

34:03

if you if you were to win something or

34:05

someone you know won something and you took a

34:07

picture that but if you're walking around family

34:10

member of mine was in

34:12

a high roller room and came across the

34:15

cast of the Sopranos. And

34:17

went to take a picture in security walked up and grabbed

34:19

the camera and said no. No,

34:22

I was just I went to the blackjack table. I

34:24

was whispering in the players ears. Yeah,

34:26

I'm getting actually I've done that. I've

34:28

done that with with my wife.

34:31

She was at a table and you're allowed to

34:33

do that. I mean, you can't you can't see

34:35

their other. It wasn't blackjack. It was another game.

34:37

You can't look at somebody else's hand because you

34:39

can't see that you can't you don't

34:42

have that kind of access. But

34:44

on another game I was advising in as

34:46

long as I'm not sitting at the table doing

34:49

that. It's fine. Yeah,

34:51

I get too upset at my teams when they lose.

34:53

I don't need to lose money as I yeah

34:56

as they lose. I don't need that

34:58

double whammy. Yeah, no, that's that's probably

35:01

a big part of it for me.

35:03

It's like, yeah, it's you know, it's

35:05

a lot of calculation going into that

35:07

and then still any given injury could

35:09

take you out, you know, 86690 Redeye.

35:15

We'll be right back with more red eye

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35:45

you had a guest

35:48

on a black author who was

35:50

talking about race and saying exactly

35:53

what Bill Maher was saying the other day, we need

35:55

to stop bringing up race. Gotta

35:57

Stop It. We've

36:00

said this. I'm. Insane. It. Now

36:02

we're me. See? Thirty four year. Thirty

36:04

four years and seven months. I'll bite.

36:07

get. Them. Morgan Freeman said

36:09

it more a bathroom and Bill Maher was

36:11

set up on any he went through. Other

36:14

black authors that said now you have

36:16

to eliminate race We have this we

36:18

can focus on easy and and so.

36:21

This. Guest was talking about at. Home.

36:23

Mom. And they hit

36:25

him with well, ah, some people basically

36:28

and I'm paraphrasing here. Basic are saying

36:30

euro. In. Oh, a tool of the

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right or with some people that's usain' it.

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36:37

snow. Ahmed. I'm only voted

36:39

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36:46

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36:49

he said but in order to stop this

36:51

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36:53

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36:55

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36:57

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37:00

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39:04

UNIDAN America Studios. This

39:07

is Renee Radio. Okay,

39:16

it's Renee Radio. No seriously, it's a

39:19

book about a cat. We're

39:21

doing a show here Gary. By

39:24

the way, the show was interrupting

39:26

our lively

39:28

discussion on a variety of issues during the top of

39:30

the hour and all of a sudden I hear the

39:32

music and it's like you put on your headphones. Stop

39:35

laughing. You have a serious

39:37

show to do. That's right. Straighten

39:40

up, fly right. Oh

39:48

man. Yeah.

39:50

All

39:53

right. What

39:55

day is it? I don't know. Thursday I

39:57

guess. Hey Alan, go in the refrigerator. get

40:00

us a couple of beers. There's still beers

40:02

in the refrigerator. You

40:06

came in the other day and there was beer in the

40:08

fridge and here's the thing, is it

40:11

a 12 pack? Yeah it's

40:13

12 pack but there's like four

40:15

or five cans gone. Alright. So

40:18

Coors Light. Alright. So or

40:21

Miller Light. I knew it was open.

40:23

I didn't count them. I knew

40:26

it was open. So

40:28

we've had part of the building, another

40:33

organization that occupies part of the

40:35

other, another part of the building was

40:38

having a lot of remodeling done.

40:40

Right. I'm

40:42

assuming it's the construction crew but

40:45

do construction crews drink

40:48

beer on the job? Yeah

40:50

we want to make it clear. We

40:53

share the kitchen in the refrigerator. Right.

40:56

With other organizations that

40:58

aren't a part of our company. Right. We

41:00

have one central kitchen area and kind

41:03

of it's also a mail room and it's

41:05

one little common area. That and the

41:07

bathrooms and it... I

41:10

just thought... Okay I

41:14

guess when they finish a job or

41:16

when they finish on Friday or...

41:18

Or are there lawyers from Law

41:20

and Order here in the building

41:24

now? Now

41:28

that would be whiskey. Now

41:30

is it our sales department?

41:33

Are they... No they

41:35

leave the drink. They don't stay here. Okay

41:37

yeah. Nobody finds the drink at work. They

41:40

don't do anything in the building in fact. But

41:43

it's always interesting when you open up

41:46

the refrigerator and like there's beer in

41:48

the refrigerator. Yeah it was weird. How

41:50

did this happen? That's only what

41:52

happened in the 27 years

41:55

I've been here. That

41:59

particular incident with

42:01

type of incident with alcohol has only

42:03

happened once. Now we

42:06

did have sponsors, I

42:08

think you and I mentioned it, I don't know if it

42:10

happened the same year, a sponsor

42:13

left me a huge

42:16

bottle of Crown Royal, I

42:18

don't drink Crown Royal

42:21

but someone left me a

42:23

huge bottle of Crown Royal and

42:26

in the control room, so when I came

42:28

in that night, is sitting there with

42:30

my name on it. Well it was a couple

42:32

of weeks after there was a memo that went

42:35

around and I don't know what happened, I can't

42:37

remember but it was like no alcohol on the

42:39

premises, right? Yeah and it was probably a couple

42:41

of weeks before you know Christmas,

42:44

maybe a month before Christmas, I remember

42:46

seeing the memo and it's like well somebody

42:48

must have and I didn't know who

42:50

was you know what I didn't know

42:52

what it related to, right? You know

42:54

it doesn't apply to me and I

42:56

walk into the studio and there's like

42:58

a basket of hard liquor wine, there's

43:00

like all the crosses like Gary this

43:03

is for you, wait a minute there's

43:05

a memo over there, no alcohol allowed,

43:07

right? And all this alcohol sitting there,

43:09

hey all these clients these are gifts

43:11

for you, yeah, why did they choose

43:13

alcohol? Yeah, yeah, could they not

43:15

get me? I don't know. Gold or money or

43:17

cash? Yeah cash would be fine. How are you

43:19

taking cash? Cash would be fine. We really appreciate

43:22

what you've done for us this year Gary, here's

43:24

a here's a $50

43:26

bottle of alcohol, yeah, give me the cash.

43:28

Yeah, yeah, did you keep the receipt? I

43:30

guess you can't return alcohol. The problem

43:36

is nobody's ever tried. Well

43:38

you can return alcohol in a different kind of way

43:40

but that's not what I mean. But

43:43

it's yeah I don't I don't I don't

43:45

know I guess it was the construction crew

43:47

or the the remodeling

43:49

crew enjoying

43:51

a beer. If

43:54

you do man if if

43:56

you do that every time you do a job I mean I'm

43:58

hoping that if you do that for a living,

44:00

you're busy all the time. You'd be drinking all

44:02

the time, wouldn't you? It would be like Law

44:04

and Order, you know, where

44:07

you just finish a day and start

44:09

drinking right away. Don't even leave the office. But

44:11

they never had like light beer on Law and

44:13

Order. No, no, no, no. It was hard liquor.

44:16

It was always hard liquor. Yeah, yeah. And

44:18

neat. Mm-hmm. You know, they

44:20

weren't mixing it with anything. Yeah. Always,

44:22

yeah. If I drink it, it's neat. I

44:24

don't, you know. You know something? I have never

44:28

tasted bourbon or scotch. Yeah,

44:30

I have. I can't tell

44:32

you the difference between. And please don't

44:35

email me because my I'm not saying I

44:37

don't want your email. I'm saying my brain

44:39

doesn't. It was my son who

44:42

was in the restaurant industry for a

44:44

long, long time and

44:46

knows all about it. You know,

44:48

he can tell you that craft beer, everything,

44:50

all of it, bourbon versus

44:52

whiskey versus scotch versus single

44:55

malt, this, that. He can

44:57

tell you everything. And he has said

44:59

it repeatedly to me. For some reason,

45:02

my brain, you know, when we're talking

45:04

about the Russian collusion thing, the

45:06

Russian hoax, and we're explaining to people

45:08

that don't know about it and their

45:10

eyes kind of glaze over. Yeah. Okay.

45:14

I get that way when someone's trying to explain to

45:16

me the difference between whiskey and bourbon. I

45:19

just, I have no, for

45:21

some reason, no interest. It just goes blank.

45:24

You know, the interesting thing is,

45:26

and I talked about it, that, you

45:29

know, part of just even small commercial

45:31

real estate, the brewery taco place

45:33

that I used to go to, it

45:35

ended up closing up business because,

45:37

you know, they were doing okay, but

45:39

it was like they, the

45:41

rent went from 2000 for the

45:43

building to 8000. I

45:46

said, we can't do that. Yeah. Right.

45:49

Possibly. You just, you know, you've just

45:51

taken the profit margin away from us. But I

45:54

would only go there maybe once a month. Right. And

45:57

I'd have to have one because the, you know, the, it's

45:59

a, was a. you know, craft beer place

46:01

IPA and stuff like that. But they had

46:03

delicious beer, but I

46:05

would always feel guilty afterwards Not

46:08

from the drinking alcohol portion of

46:10

it, but the carb content

46:14

Yeah Yeah, I can be

46:16

pretty rich too many carbs and that too many

46:18

carbs too I mean there must have been 80

46:20

grams like you know, 80 grams 100 grams of

46:22

carbs and some of those beers They're so thick

46:24

I saw a I

46:27

saw a YouTuber who

46:30

is doing an endorsement for

46:33

a non-alcoholic IPA Why

46:39

yeah, yeah, I So

46:44

There are there's certain food. It is once in

46:46

a blue moon where it just screams at me.

46:48

Oh, you got to have a beer with us It's

46:52

rare But

46:54

there's one restaurant that I go to and if

46:57

we do take out and bring it home The

47:00

only thing I can drink with it is a beer I

47:06

could see that in a moment like that where

47:08

I don't want the alcohol I guess But

47:11

my question is is it the same, you

47:13

know because you know how they you know

47:16

made with Splenda and it

47:18

tastes just that no it doesn't

47:20

it's it's a great substitute It

47:23

works if you can't have the sugar It

47:26

tastes just like No,

47:28

no. No. So my question is is

47:31

it the tofurkey of

47:33

beer Yeah,

47:35

I you know, I think one time I

47:38

tried one of the non-alcoholic

47:40

beers and it was sort of The

47:43

the same question that I had for

47:46

the new Roadhouse movie. Why?

47:48

Yeah Well, no, I

47:51

think the most famous one is o-duels Remember

47:54

The stories of Mike Pence. He

47:56

would drink a six-pack of o-duels.

47:58

Okay that. Whoop

48:00

Whoop Whoop little boy my eyes

48:02

on on we can expect over

48:04

at sixty know to Pennsylvania or

48:06

wherever the Vice President was a

48:09

it was evident with this as

48:11

a expect of he had a

48:13

zig zag off at his wife's

48:15

dog. Now he would have a

48:17

six pack of old tools and

48:19

a pizza. Now.

48:23

It's like you're trying too hard man. variety

48:25

of your vet at that point to be

48:27

like yours to stanza. Yeah, and you know

48:29

of wine? I drink Pepsi? Yeah, Oh no,

48:31

I mean, I have. I have a friend.

48:34

Who drinks? Ah the are not Diet

48:36

Coke but The yard. The other one

48:38

wants a Coke Zero Coke? Zero. Like

48:42

it's like. Dinner

48:44

Bone Coke Zero. You know, whatever it is.

48:47

Whatever. The Occasion. Boom Coke Zero. In.

48:50

It so that would be. And

48:52

one, oh, duels or something. you know.

48:54

okay, but a six pack about jewels

48:56

you're trying too hard. It

49:00

does what he is. What's the message we're

49:02

sending. I. Don't

49:04

know what I'm a fly on. not

49:06

really hard to look like I drink,

49:08

but I don't. And.

49:11

Mike Pence wasn't that guy.

49:14

There. Was a dog. Donald Trump junior

49:16

the other day talking about. Picking

49:19

of the. You. Know you want somebody really

49:21

strong in the whole thing. They said the

49:23

whole. Thing. With Mike, Pence was

49:25

the balance and I don't know. Balances,

49:28

The right. But. I guess it is.

49:30

It's you A ones. The

49:33

the candidate being Donald Trump and Twenty

49:35

sixteen. Very. Loud.

49:37

And and blunt end and I don't

49:39

think anyone x x f real life

49:41

is hard. Mike Pence his voice. I'm.

49:46

Not sure if anyone can do an

49:49

impression of Mike Pence. Because. No

49:51

one knows what he sounds like, but they

49:53

go that but they don't But they did

49:55

recognize. because he said it

49:57

they so they recognize what they thought was

50:00

balance. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was just making

50:02

a joke. And if you're asking me, well,

50:04

no, no, I mean, that's a serious, if he said,

50:06

he said that, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, right. I mean,

50:08

that's a serious political point. I mean, I, yeah. And,

50:10

and so you ask yourself, all right, who

50:13

should, who should Trump pick now? What

50:15

is the mindset if the Trump

50:17

campaign, because he's part of the campaign,

50:19

you know, if

50:22

the Trump campaign knows that

50:24

balance was brought there, what are they

50:26

thinking they need for a vice

50:28

presidential candidate? And why did it now? Well,

50:31

he was alluding to Donald Trump Jr. was

50:33

alluding to somebody who was strong. And it

50:35

sounded like, and I don't know if he

50:37

eventually said it in the quote, just didn't make it into

50:40

the stories I read about it, or

50:42

not. But it sounds like, and

50:45

what I would say is, you need somebody who

50:47

can run in 2028, somebody who can be strong

50:51

in 2028, strong as a

50:53

vice president, you're not looking for the balance this

50:55

time. I mean, I

50:58

guess you could say you're looking for balance, it wouldn't be

51:00

the point for me as a voter, as

51:02

a supporter. It would

51:04

be who's the future of the party? Well,

51:06

when I when I look at it, I get the first

51:09

thought that comes to my mind is, this

51:11

is an election about the

51:13

Republicans having balance and taking I just

51:15

I don't see that. I can see

51:18

that back in 2016. Yeah. And

51:20

I think that was a point he was making

51:22

the other day is that was the point in

51:24

2016, but it's not the point now. So

51:27

now it matters for Kennedy. We talked about that,

51:29

you know, when he when he

51:31

picked I, oh, I got to I got to get the

51:33

article in in the hill.com.

51:36

That was basically saying, well, now they

51:38

have a good populist ticket with her.

51:40

It's like, no, they have a far

51:42

left candidate. And now, because

51:44

you really didn't hear any talk

51:46

about this yesterday at all. No, no, no,

51:49

no, the day after it happened, you expected

51:51

there would be some but there was zero

51:53

buzz except Democrats are

51:56

absolutely furious at

51:59

our K junior. for still running

52:01

because they believe his vice presidential candidate

52:03

now because she's a far-left liberal, you

52:06

know, has exposed who he is and

52:08

will take from the Democrats. Right. Yeah.

52:12

Yeah. I don't know what

52:14

I don't know what Republican now, if

52:18

you're a Republican, I don't know, you've

52:20

had a cut in half the number of

52:22

people that might have considered Robert

52:24

Kennedy Jr. after

52:27

his vice presidential pick because it doesn't, well,

52:29

but she's not him. Yeah, but it shows

52:31

he's attracted to that. You can't

52:33

say that the issues don't matter. Right. Only if you're,

52:35

only if you're no labels. Well, and we have to

52:38

also look at the contingency part of

52:40

it, and that is if he's not able

52:42

to fulfill the job, she becomes president. By

52:44

the way, very quickly here, I just mentioned

52:46

the no labels party, Joe Lieberman, one

52:49

of the creators of the no label

52:51

party, dying at age 82, apparently due

52:53

to complications of a fall. From a fall. Yeah,

52:55

because you and I were talking about it yesterday,

52:57

and we said, you know, what about the party

53:00

itself? And if they knew, and I don't know

53:02

how long he has, you know, when he fell.

53:04

I didn't see that in any of the stories.

53:06

Because we had talked about how quiet it was,

53:08

and I mentioned Joe Lieberman. We had no idea

53:10

yesterday, just so people know. Yeah, we did no

53:12

idea. We did not know anything at all. You

53:15

know, certainly our thoughts and prayers and condolences go out

53:17

to his family, but it was just out of the

53:19

blue yesterday. I'm like, oh

53:22

my gosh, my wife's like, what? I said, Joe

53:25

Lieberman died. I think

53:27

it was just, you see, I think

53:29

it was, I think it was Mark Levin on

53:31

Twitter said, the last democratic

53:33

moderate. Yeah, he's

53:35

the one you could say that about. Yeah,

53:37

for sure. Last. No, Mark is definitely right

53:39

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Eric Hartley. It's Red Eye

55:12

Radio. It's

55:27

Red Eye Radio. He

55:30

is Eric Hartley and I'm Gary McNamara. A really

55:32

interesting article written, it was an analysis by Karl

55:34

Rove of the Senate. It's

55:37

called Democrats will probably lose the Senate.

55:39

Opportunities for Republicans who are defending only

55:42

11 seats this

55:44

November. We'll get to it because it

55:46

goes through every race and you know

55:49

what the polling is and you

55:51

look at it. What he's saying is that

55:53

easily it'll be 52-48 and

55:57

you can actually make

55:59

it. bigger than that, the

56:03

opportunity is there for the

56:05

Senate. He said the Senate candidates are better

56:08

than they were before, than

56:10

they were in the past

56:12

couple of election cycles. And

56:14

he said, I guess, now,

56:17

like I said, I'll get to portions of it coming up

56:19

following the bottom of the hour. But

56:21

he basically said you could get a majority

56:23

in the Senate for Republicans that could last

56:25

a decade, even based on

56:27

future elections. Interesting.

56:30

Which is what you want. I mean, that's the entire

56:32

goal. And

56:34

the opportunity, I want to get to, I'll

56:36

get to this also coming up, because it shows

56:39

Trump on the issues, you know, on

56:42

the issues, the lead that

56:44

he has over Biden. And you see some of

56:47

the, I think there's one, like over 40

56:50

points, you

56:52

know, favoring Trump on it. This is

56:54

an election, as we said, that Republicans

56:57

can win and Trump can win. It's

57:00

also one that they can lose if

57:02

they don't communicate effectively. And

57:04

we played the, the, the,

57:08

I guess the ad that Trump put together last

57:10

week, as it was edited, where

57:12

he talked about why you should vote for him. And you and

57:14

I looked at each other and go, well, he can do it.

57:17

If he wishes to do it, he can do it,

57:19

because that is absolutely, he was

57:22

almost, I would give it for

57:24

and nothing ever gets 100% from me because I'm always

57:26

like, wow, you could have done that a little bit

57:28

or just taking this in a little direction. But it

57:30

was 95% what he needs

57:32

to do. Yeah. Yeah. And

57:35

so he has the ability

57:37

to win it. As

57:39

I've said, all the issues favor

57:42

the Republicans. And

57:44

an abortion can make that 50 50,

57:47

which is Democrats wanted to birth and the public doesn't,

57:49

right? The public doesn't want it. And I said that's

57:52

nobody ever talks about on the pro life side.

57:55

The fact that since the

57:57

majority of Americans don't believe Even

58:00

women, the plurality of women don't believe

58:02

in abortion right up until birth.

58:05

It means the debate is simply when does life

58:07

begin in the womb? Which

58:09

is what if you're a pro-lifer you want. And

58:42

he's our Carly and I'm Gary

58:44

McNamara welcome and

58:48

good morning. So

58:54

just was bringing this up at peace in the Wall

58:56

Street Journal. Karl

58:58

Rove's column, Democrats will probably lose

59:01

the Senate. And

59:04

it starts off by saying the March 12

59:06

Washington Post poll for Maryland's

59:08

open Senate seat shows Governor

59:11

Larry Hogan with a double digit lead

59:13

over both major Democrats. 49-37 in one

59:15

case, 50-36 in the other one. The

59:23

rights for the Maryland polls only the latest bad turn for

59:25

Senate Democrats. They hold a 51-49 majority and

59:27

43 Democratic Senate seats are up this year. Counting

59:35

those of Independents Bernie Sanders and

59:37

Angus King with Republicans defending only

59:40

11 seats, Democrats

59:42

have no room for error. Most

59:45

GOP states up this year are

59:47

in deep red states. Only

59:50

two Republicans could have real contest Ted Cruz

59:52

and Rick Scott of Florida. But

59:54

a March 21st mayor survey said Mr.

59:57

Cruz ahead. 51

1:00:00

to 45 while even a higher

1:00:02

partisan democratic poster had Mr Scott up

1:00:05

44 to 41 on March 1st. If

1:00:10

you know you and I talked about could

1:00:14

this be a different election where Trump

1:00:16

outperforms as he has in some states

1:00:18

this is early on but Trump outperforms

1:00:21

many Republican candidates and

1:00:24

that wasn't the case back in

1:00:26

2020. And so if

1:00:28

he does, does that pull Ted Cruz to an

1:00:30

easy victory? And I would say yes. Yeah,

1:00:33

if look, you

1:00:35

know, if things start to continue to go well,

1:00:39

then those you know those

1:00:42

where there might be a slimmer margin,

1:00:44

I think are going to

1:00:46

benefit from that and get a greater margin. I

1:00:49

wish it were the case, you know,

1:00:51

again, I'm building my own unicorn here

1:00:53

that the Republican Party, each of these candidates

1:00:56

were building it on their own as

1:00:59

well as Trump building it on his own and

1:01:01

that they all kind of stand alone. But that's just

1:01:03

not the way the down ballot works. If

1:01:06

the presidential candidate is strong, they

1:01:09

often carry most

1:01:11

of those down ballots with

1:01:14

them and, you know, with the

1:01:16

exception of some really bad candidates and I wouldn't

1:01:18

put Cruz in that category. But

1:01:21

the poll has a cruise of 51 to 45

1:01:25

and the highly Democratic pollster

1:01:28

in Florida

1:01:30

had Mr. Scott up 44 to 41 percent on

1:01:32

March 1st. As

1:01:34

long as both men run through the

1:01:37

tape, they should be fine. Democrats, on the other hand, have

1:01:40

a lot of problems. Republican Governor

1:01:42

Jim Justice is virtually guaranteed to

1:01:44

take the West Virginia seat. I'm

1:01:47

Joe Manchin. Democrats hold two other

1:01:49

seats in states. Donald Trump won in the

1:01:52

last two presidential elections. Montana, which

1:01:54

Mr. Trump carried by 16 points

1:01:57

and Ohio, Flipping them too, would

1:01:59

resume. The old in a fifty to forty eight G

1:02:01

O P Senate. And. They talked

1:02:04

about. Jon Tester.

1:02:06

Only two points ahead. Forty four, Forty two.

1:02:09

He hasn't reached the fifty point mark. That

1:02:11

is not encouraging news for three term incumbent.

1:02:14

Talked. About Ohio. Ah,

1:02:18

And Bernie Marano. As.

1:02:21

As the democrats grumbled, Mr. Miranda would

1:02:23

be the easiest republican debate or gambled.

1:02:25

Will find out soon as. It.

1:02:27

Was smart smart? Bad. In

1:02:30

now reliably read or

1:02:32

Ohio. Ah,

1:02:35

Republicans have reasonable chances to add

1:02:37

seats in three great like states.

1:02:39

In Pennsylvania. Combat. Veteran

1:02:42

and businessman David Mccormick faces

1:02:44

three term incumbent democrat Bob

1:02:46

Casey. A March Thirteen

1:02:48

poll showed mccormick. Only.

1:02:50

Slightly trailing forty one percent to

1:02:52

forty five percent. And Wisconsin

1:02:55

developer and banker. Ah,

1:02:57

Or arrow whole video or post

1:02:59

up against incumbent Tammy Baldwin. A

1:03:01

March eighteen survey has him down

1:03:03

to three points. The gap

1:03:05

was a points through weeks earlier. For

1:03:08

Michigan's open seat the like video P

1:03:10

Nominee. His. Former Intelligence Chairman.

1:03:12

Mike. Rogers. He's. Down.

1:03:16

Ah A, he is down just

1:03:18

two points at this. A. In

1:03:21

marchers, the and march. Since.

1:03:24

All three states or presidential battlegrounds. They'll be

1:03:26

close. With. Democrat or money

1:03:28

driving turn out against Mister Trump.

1:03:30

The Geo P candidate must hold

1:03:32

the trombone. While. Winning Suburbanites who

1:03:35

would support down ballot republicans but

1:03:37

not Mister Trump. These three republicans

1:03:39

had the profiles to do that.

1:03:42

Folly, the Geo P has

1:03:44

western opportunities. Nevada is now

1:03:47

trending republican with Democrat registration

1:03:49

advantage down nearly two thirds.

1:03:51

Their. Their registration advantage down nearly

1:03:54

two thirds since Twenty Twenty. And

1:03:57

they go through all that same. This. Could be of.

1:04:00

This could be a great year for

1:04:02

the republicans a me. See, what is

1:04:04

it here? Ah, if

1:04:06

but a G O P challengers

1:04:08

achieve financial sufficient seats and turn

1:04:10

democratic officeholders records into a negative.

1:04:12

Republicans could win a senate majority

1:04:15

that last a decade. That's

1:04:18

interesting. Some interesting analysis look

1:04:20

on the issues. On.

1:04:25

The Issues: As we said: it's

1:04:27

a landslide for republicans. Absolute

1:04:29

well and sly. And it's it

1:04:32

is a landslide In it's also

1:04:34

more of a an impactful

1:04:36

landslide, I believe. Because.

1:04:39

It is not. These.

1:04:41

Issues are not in the

1:04:44

abstract. they are here. They

1:04:46

are everyday reality for every

1:04:48

American. Inflation. The

1:04:50

border. National. Security. Of.

1:04:54

An Ip. Domestic Security

1:04:56

when it comes to crime.

1:04:59

And defending the police. And now we're treating

1:05:01

criminals. And but criminals are getting away with.

1:05:04

All. Of these things right now. Are.

1:05:07

On the forefront and in

1:05:09

people's lives. At

1:05:11

a heightened awareness level I

1:05:14

think. Ah, Especially, It's

1:05:16

not just the news. As

1:05:18

you mentioned, You. Know. A. Lot

1:05:20

of times the local news. A

1:05:23

is what. Impacts.

1:05:25

You know the how things are affecting. Ah,

1:05:28

You know everybody locally. The

1:05:31

local news will have that impact. But.

1:05:33

So it's you know the crime in

1:05:35

in major cities. Are the

1:05:37

the. Are illegal immigration?

1:05:40

Situation. In major cities now. I'm

1:05:43

a the thanks to I think Gov

1:05:45

Abbott. For a large

1:05:47

part of that, Inflation.

1:05:51

The. Cost of everything was just reading story

1:05:53

during the break. About. How

1:05:55

Mcdonalds? is

1:05:57

noticing that a lot of the lower

1:06:00

income customers

1:06:02

are pairing their menu choices. In

1:06:04

other words, they're not

1:06:06

ordering the same amount of food they used

1:06:09

to order because they can't afford it.

1:06:12

And that's what it comes down to is that, you know, they

1:06:14

because you look at the franchisees,

1:06:18

they are, they

1:06:20

have to raise the prices, you know, if they do

1:06:22

a 10% increase, that has

1:06:24

an impact on people's behavior and all

1:06:27

that. We're talking McDonald's, you

1:06:29

know, that's the okay, I'm too tired to

1:06:31

cook dinner or I've

1:06:34

got to get something for lunch because I got

1:06:36

to get back to work. And when

1:06:39

you can't afford McDonald's, that's a problem.

1:06:43

And these things are playing out every

1:06:45

day. So I think it's a landslide,

1:06:48

it's a much different kind of landslide because

1:06:50

it's the difference, I think, between watching a

1:06:52

video of a landslide and

1:06:55

actually being at the foot of a mountain when

1:06:57

a landslide is happening politically.

1:07:02

And we'll see if that pairs, you

1:07:04

know, if that plays out in November. I don't,

1:07:09

it would shock me. We

1:07:11

haven't even in, you know, this

1:07:14

segment introduced the, of course, the

1:07:17

radical ideas of, you know,

1:07:20

pro-homos, teaching

1:07:22

children sexualized content in school,

1:07:27

which they're promoting on a

1:07:29

regular basis. The

1:07:32

first lady is promoting it. You

1:07:35

know, these are not abstract issues.

1:07:39

These are things that parents and

1:07:42

families are dealing with day in

1:07:44

and day out. I

1:07:46

had a family member who

1:07:49

is younger and recently

1:07:51

just approached me and

1:07:54

said, what is going on with

1:07:56

people? You

1:07:58

know, you can kind of sense where

1:08:01

we're all just kind of, you know, looking

1:08:04

at reality right now, saying,

1:08:07

what in the world, how much more could

1:08:11

they dish out? And

1:08:14

when I look at this election, look, we talk

1:08:16

about the polls all the time, and we'll say,

1:08:18

okay, the polls give an indication where the momentum

1:08:20

is, but we don't necessarily

1:08:23

believe that each individual poll

1:08:26

is accurate in March of this year. We

1:08:28

look at movement. We look

1:08:30

at the generalized movement of it, and

1:08:32

as we've said before, you know, now the

1:08:34

media seems to be going crazy about,

1:08:36

well, some of these polls show that Biden's

1:08:38

up, and there's a big comeback coming back,

1:08:41

and I think you're gonna hear that a

1:08:44

lot. The problem that they have is on

1:08:47

every major issue, every

1:08:50

major issue that exists out there right

1:08:52

now, Trump and the

1:08:54

Republicans on the issues, landslide

1:08:57

leads. I mean, unbelievable

1:08:59

leads on the

1:09:01

actual issues, and that's why I

1:09:03

say it's an issue versus January

1:09:05

6th election. That's what it is,

1:09:09

and I think Americans have already processed

1:09:11

January 6th one way or another. However

1:09:14

they've processed it, it's priced in already.

1:09:17

They've priced that in already,

1:09:20

and I do think, because

1:09:22

we saw it in 2016,

1:09:27

that the

1:09:30

movement really went, and it started

1:09:33

about three weeks before, the movement

1:09:35

really started about three weeks before

1:09:37

the election, where it started moving

1:09:39

towards Trump. Now,

1:09:42

Trump was an unknown quantity back

1:09:44

then. As

1:09:47

a president, he was an unknown quantity. He's

1:09:49

no longer an unknown quantity. People

1:09:51

compare him to what Biden has done,

1:09:53

and Biden's numbers are

1:09:56

historically low, but

1:09:58

I still think that

1:10:02

a lot of people, independents,

1:10:04

will make their decision. I think

1:10:07

there's a possibility of the

1:10:09

same thing happening again where

1:10:11

people say this is just so bad, I'm

1:10:13

sorry, I've got to vote for him. We've

1:10:16

seen polls move. When you don't have

1:10:18

to vote tomorrow, there is a percentage

1:10:21

of the population that

1:10:24

will change six

1:10:26

months later, more

1:10:29

than six months. But

1:10:34

they will change six months later as you get

1:10:36

close to an election, it's like okay I gotta

1:10:38

make the vote here, what do I do? And

1:10:40

the majority of time

1:10:42

economic numbers and economic

1:10:45

things. You have to realize,

1:10:47

Eric, how many people have not gone through this? Because

1:10:50

this inflation is even worse

1:10:52

than the recession of 2008-2009. Because

1:10:57

the inflation affected everybody. And

1:11:01

for a number of years.

1:11:04

And we're still going to be, I

1:11:07

don't see us going below 3%, you never

1:11:09

know, but I don't see

1:11:12

it happening. As you got core inflation still up

1:11:14

near 4%.

1:11:16

And the overall numbers we stated doesn't mean anything.

1:11:19

What means a ton to people, is

1:11:24

inflation of the products that they

1:11:26

buy. And the products that they

1:11:28

buy, food, home insurance, car insurance. I did see a

1:11:33

thing on YouTube the other day about

1:11:36

this couple in Florida. It's just too dang

1:11:38

expensive homeowners insurance. So their house is paid

1:11:40

off for it, they're not carrying it. And

1:11:43

they started this like 10 years ago, because it was $7,000

1:11:45

for their house insurance. So

1:11:48

they just, instead of paying that, they're not paying it. They

1:11:52

just, instead of paying that, they saved $7,000 a year. And

1:11:55

now they've got 12 years later, 13 years later, whatever it is.

1:12:00

to $100,000 but their house is probably

1:12:02

worth five or six hundred thousand. They're

1:12:04

self-insured but they're really only self-insured for

1:12:07

things like repairs, not full replacement. Not

1:12:09

full, exactly full replacement. Well, they did

1:12:11

say they go, the land's worth more

1:12:13

than the house. But,

1:12:16

yeah, that's the case in a lot of areas. And

1:12:19

so they said, but if the first five

1:12:21

years we would have been screwed over big

1:12:23

time at something if a hurricane hit. There

1:12:27

are people, when you think about that, and

1:12:29

they talk to experts like, oh, geez, not

1:12:31

ensuring the asset that's the most

1:12:33

to you. I

1:12:36

wouldn't suggest doing that. But if

1:12:39

you do that, it's that desperate out there

1:12:41

where people are saying, I paid off my

1:12:43

mortgage and I'm not going

1:12:45

to have insurance on it because the insurance

1:12:47

is too expensive. You and I both know

1:12:50

that's sitting in the back of people's minds

1:12:52

going, the economy sucks so bad that I

1:12:54

can't afford homeowners insurance and it could affect

1:12:56

this asset of mine, which is the biggest

1:12:59

asset that I have. Unless you could, unless

1:13:01

you've got enough money to fully, for full

1:13:03

replacement, to fully self-insure,

1:13:05

that's a massive risk. 86690, Red

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1:13:11

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1:13:15

Red Eye on Red Eye Radio. It's

1:13:32

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1:13:34

McNamara. You know, this has

1:13:36

the potential to be a completely

1:13:38

different kind of election based

1:13:40

on the fact, and you had mentioned it earlier, and

1:13:42

we've talked about this a lot. So

1:13:44

many of the issues out there where Trump

1:13:47

leads and you say, why? You've

1:13:49

never seen Republicans have this big of a lead.

1:13:51

And as you and I have explained, it's

1:13:54

different because on all the major

1:13:56

issues, they are no longer abstract.

1:13:58

Right. They're not abstract. It's

1:14:00

not, okay, hypothetically, if you vote

1:14:02

for a Democrat, this economic, the

1:14:06

economics of

1:14:08

the Democrat, I believe are better than

1:14:10

the Republican. Well, as we know

1:14:12

now, everything

1:14:15

has hit reality. And by

1:14:17

the way, I've noticed that a lot of

1:14:19

our listeners have picked up on that because

1:14:21

we've said the biggest challenge to Democrats is

1:14:23

not Republicans, it's reality. We'll talk

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Eric Hurley and I'm Gary McNamara. Welcome

1:15:20

and good morning. We

1:15:23

talked about identity politics yesterday. We talked

1:15:25

about where racism still exists in this

1:15:28

nation and that it is systemic and

1:15:30

institutionalized and that is in the Democratic

1:15:32

Party. Well, yesterday, another example of that.

1:15:35

On The View, they had

1:15:37

a podcaster and author Coleman Hughes.

1:15:39

He is black and

1:15:41

he was there to promote his book, The

1:15:43

End of Race Politics and Arguments for a

1:15:45

Colorblind Society. It's

1:15:49

where you just treat people

1:15:51

as people. Something

1:15:53

we've been promoting since we've been in talk radio. That's

1:15:56

how you get rid of it. You don't pay attention to

1:15:59

race. doesn't matter to you.

1:16:01

And as we've stated, it has to to

1:16:03

the left, because their entire

1:16:05

party is built on identity

1:16:08

politics, judging people by groups.

1:16:10

And therefore, one group is a victim, one

1:16:12

group is a press and an

1:16:15

oppressor. And they wish and

1:16:17

they have succeeded as we have stated over

1:16:19

the last few decades, of promoting the fact

1:16:21

that we will protect the victim from the

1:16:24

oppressor. One of the problems is

1:16:27

they've, they've kept increasing

1:16:29

the buy more slices of more

1:16:31

victims, where then you see the

1:16:34

victims or the leaders

1:16:36

of the victims eventually

1:16:38

become the oppressors, as

1:16:40

we've seen, for example, we use

1:16:42

Martina Navratilova as

1:16:44

as that. We've also talked about the

1:16:47

fact that any conservative

1:16:49

black out there has gotten labeled

1:16:51

will get labeled and has been

1:16:54

labeled by a

1:16:56

number of names, Uncle Tom's, a tool

1:16:58

of the, you know, conservative movement that

1:17:01

you're being used, that you don't have

1:17:03

a brain of your own, which means

1:17:05

all blacks must have the same mindset.

1:17:08

Well, how racist is that? Well,

1:17:10

they got into that yesterday, they were

1:17:12

talking about, for example, Martin Luther King

1:17:14

and listen to Sonny Houston, by the

1:17:16

way, a descendant of slave owners. Did

1:17:18

you see when she found that out?

1:17:21

I'm shocked. I'm shocked. I'm a descendant

1:17:23

of slave owners. Hmm. Well,

1:17:27

it was just those. It's

1:17:29

like, why are you shocked? It's got nothing to do with you. You're

1:17:32

not responsible for it. You're not responsible

1:17:35

for what somebody else did. Yeah.

1:17:38

And it's like, but what was we

1:17:40

said part of the guilt that

1:17:42

the Democrats have, the

1:17:45

guilt is based on the on

1:17:47

the their mindset, that

1:17:51

they judge everybody by groups and not individuals.

1:17:54

Right. And if you do that, well, then

1:17:56

you're a racist. Well, you probably feel guilty

1:17:58

about that. And therefore, You say,

1:18:00

well, we need to have reparations. We

1:18:02

need to have this. And you accuse

1:18:04

the other side of always being racist

1:18:06

because you're promoting racism. Right. That's how

1:18:08

you think it's not how other people

1:18:10

think. Well, here's

1:18:12

a part of what went on and listen, how

1:18:14

she goes after the, uh, the author here, here

1:18:16

we go. So your

1:18:19

argument for colorblindness, I think is

1:18:21

something that the right has co-opted.

1:18:24

And so many in the black community, if I'm

1:18:27

being honest with you, because I want to

1:18:29

be, believe that you

1:18:31

are being used as a pawn by the right and

1:18:33

that you're a charlatan of sorts. He's not a Republican.

1:18:36

How do you, you

1:18:38

said that you're a conservative. No,

1:18:40

no, no, you did. You actually said that, uh,

1:18:43

podcast that you did two weeks ago. I said

1:18:45

I was a conservative. He's not. He's not.

1:18:47

And so I'm, I don't think I've

1:18:49

been co-opted by anyone. I've only voted twice,

1:18:51

both for Democrats, although I'm an independent, I

1:18:53

would vote for a Republican, probably a non-Trump

1:18:55

Republican if they were compelling. Um,

1:18:58

I don't think there's any evidence I've been co-opted by

1:19:00

anyone. And I think that that's, that's

1:19:02

an ad hominem tactic people use to

1:19:04

not address really the important conversations we're

1:19:06

having here. And I think it's better

1:19:08

and it would be better

1:19:11

for everyone if we stuck to the topics rather

1:19:13

than make it about me with no evidence. I

1:19:16

want to give you the opportunity to respond to

1:19:18

the criticism. I appreciate it.

1:19:20

There's no evidence that I've been co-opted by

1:19:22

anyone. I have an independent podcast. I

1:19:25

work for CNN as an analyst. I

1:19:27

write for the free press. I'm independent

1:19:29

in all of these endeavors and no one

1:19:32

is paying me to say what I'm saying.

1:19:34

I'm saying it because I feel it. I

1:19:36

have a question because you write that the

1:19:38

anti-racism movement, there are a couple of people,

1:19:41

I don't even know who they are. Maybe

1:19:43

Robin DiAngelo. Robin DiAngelo, Ibram Kendi, for instance.

1:19:45

Okay. Well, you say that that is just

1:19:47

a form of another form of racism and you

1:19:49

even say there's a lot in common with white

1:19:51

supremacy. How can you compare

1:19:53

those two things? Anti-racism,

1:19:56

you're comparing it to white

1:19:58

supremacy. They

1:20:00

both view your race as an extremely

1:20:03

significant part of who you are. So

1:20:05

white supremacists, they obviously say, we all

1:20:07

know what they say. Neo-racists

1:20:10

like Rob DiAngelo, they say that to be

1:20:13

white is to be ignorant, for example. Well,

1:20:15

this is a racial stereotype, and I want

1:20:17

to call us beta-spade and say this is

1:20:19

not the style of anti-racism we have to

1:20:21

be teaching our kids. We should be teaching

1:20:23

them that your race is not a significant

1:20:25

feature of who you are. Who you are

1:20:28

is your character, your value. And your

1:20:30

skill color doesn't say anything about that. Whoa!

1:20:32

The applause! The people cheer! The

1:20:35

applause! Hey, everybody! The audience of

1:20:37

The View woke up. This

1:20:40

is what Republicans should be

1:20:42

doing! Yep. And,

1:20:45

by the way, as you know,

1:20:47

everybody clapped. And who

1:20:49

did he, Mr. Coleman, who did he,

1:20:52

excuse me, Mr. Hughes, Coleman Hughes, who

1:20:54

did he sound like? What

1:20:57

mindset was he promoting? Something

1:21:00

you've heard? Martin Luther King Jr. No, something you've

1:21:02

heard here on, Martin Luther King Jr., but also

1:21:04

something you've heard here on Red

1:21:06

Eye since we've been together. And

1:21:11

there he is on

1:21:14

The View, and he did a great

1:21:16

job saying, you know, it's an ad

1:21:18

hominem attack on me. You're attacking me

1:21:20

instead of the philosophy that,

1:21:22

well, you know, you said, well, by the

1:21:24

way, there are, if

1:21:27

you look in the black

1:21:30

community, if you look at

1:21:34

where they stand on a lot of social

1:21:36

issues, blacks are conservative.

1:21:38

Oh, yeah. On many social issues. Right. So

1:21:41

he might have said, I'm conservative on this, or I'm conservative

1:21:43

on that, or I'm conservative on this. Right. And

1:21:47

just like many other demographics, you have

1:21:49

many blacks who are extremely religious. Right.

1:21:53

And they hold very, you know, like everybody

1:21:55

else, not like everybody else,

1:21:57

but like many other people, they hold conservative

1:21:59

viewpoints. They may vote Democrat, but that's

1:22:01

one of the things of the debate going

1:22:04

on right now. Well, in talking, you know,

1:22:06

and this is, you know, and her

1:22:08

premise, you know, I believe it's

1:22:11

been co-opted. It's been co-opted. Well,

1:22:14

hold on a second. What are you doing

1:22:16

if you're saying, because the

1:22:18

left is always making it seem

1:22:20

like that and

1:22:24

that it's quite the opposite of what you just laid

1:22:26

out and what we've observed in

1:22:29

our lives but also in doing this for

1:22:31

years, and that is that many

1:22:34

black Americans are conservative in many

1:22:36

ways. Now, they may vote other

1:22:39

than conservative, but in

1:22:41

their daily life on the issues

1:22:44

and on their practices, in their practices,

1:22:46

they are conservative. So

1:22:49

who's co-opting who? The

1:22:52

left has been using this for

1:22:54

a long, long time, the

1:22:57

whole racism thing, and

1:23:00

we know what bigotry, true bigotry,

1:23:02

looks like, and

1:23:04

it should certainly be called out, but the

1:23:07

left has been using this as a political

1:23:09

tactic for a long, long time.

1:23:12

They want the civil rights

1:23:15

era to be constant. They

1:23:18

want people to believe they're

1:23:21

trying to teach it in schools, that

1:23:23

if you're a person of color, you

1:23:25

are a victim and will always

1:23:27

be oppressed and always be a

1:23:29

victim, and that if you are

1:23:31

a white person, you are a

1:23:33

racist and you can't change that

1:23:35

about yourself. Well, the fact

1:23:37

of the matter is that it's not true.

1:23:39

It's not how we respond to each other,

1:23:41

and we can all have cultural differences. By

1:23:43

the way, we can have cultural differences. I

1:23:46

think you and I talked about this, and

1:23:48

I know I talked about it with a friend of mine

1:23:50

when I was on the road last week. You

1:23:53

can have cultural differences between families

1:23:56

that are white families and white families

1:23:58

and black families. families and black

1:24:00

families, you know, it may be, in fact,

1:24:02

I know a lot of white families growing

1:24:05

up that had cultural differences that

1:24:07

we did. You know, you have your own

1:24:09

household culture, right? And so

1:24:11

when we talk about those cultural

1:24:13

differences, that doesn't

1:24:16

divide us. I would argue it

1:24:19

brings us closer together. You're

1:24:22

going to have your bigotry. We know what

1:24:24

bigotry looks like. We know what true bigotry

1:24:27

looks like. But the overwhelming

1:24:29

majority of us in

1:24:32

our society get along

1:24:35

every day and respect each other

1:24:37

based on what? It's built

1:24:39

on that respect as you approach a person,

1:24:41

if you don't know them, whatever it may

1:24:44

be in a store or wherever it might

1:24:46

be in life, at work, whatever it is.

1:24:49

Well, until that person

1:24:51

or you, to them, disrespect

1:24:53

them or they disrespect you, which

1:24:56

is based on, again, behavior, it's

1:24:58

not based on anything else. The

1:25:00

vast majority of people base their

1:25:03

relationship on base

1:25:05

how they think about others based on

1:25:08

the one and one relationship that they

1:25:10

have with that individual. Right. That's how

1:25:12

it works. Right. And that's how it's

1:25:14

worked for me. And no matter who

1:25:16

I have dealt with, whatever

1:25:18

demographic you belong to, I've always

1:25:21

gotten along with everybody all

1:25:23

the time because you

1:25:25

treat each other as individuals.

1:25:29

And that's how it's done. And what I

1:25:31

liked was Joy Behar. Well,

1:25:33

wait a minute. But how can you

1:25:35

say that these anti-racist, I mean, they're

1:25:38

anti-racist and he was beautiful. He brought

1:25:40

it, well, the anti-racism is not anti-racism.

1:25:42

It's racist. They're calling it anti-racism, but

1:25:44

it's racist. Exactly. And here's where it's

1:25:46

racist. Right. All white people are ignorant.

1:25:49

I love the fact that he did

1:25:51

that on The View. And you could

1:25:53

tell they couldn't respond. They don't have

1:25:55

to respond. It had to destroy them

1:25:58

when the audience is like, yay! Oh

1:26:01

no, that's not to my side. But

1:26:04

that is the, that's because

1:26:06

that was the perfect response to

1:26:09

that and it's also a double

1:26:12

kick or punch in the gut to the left when

1:26:14

they hear that, when they hear that their

1:26:17

audience responds to something that

1:26:19

is very basic. You know

1:26:21

why the audience clapped? Because

1:26:24

it's we agree. Now

1:26:27

the audience also sometimes claps at the

1:26:29

view and they agree with them

1:26:32

on other things that we don't

1:26:34

agree with. We get that. But that was

1:26:36

a very basic point that he made. Coleman

1:26:39

made a very basic

1:26:41

point in observation

1:26:45

that is, it's like observational humor

1:26:47

that, you know, it's funny because

1:26:49

it's true. The point, what resonated

1:26:51

to that audience to the point

1:26:53

of applause because it's true because

1:26:55

they agree that's what they experience

1:26:57

and that's what they believe. We

1:27:00

should be interacting with each other

1:27:02

based on the people that we

1:27:04

are and it is not about

1:27:06

skin color. That's

1:27:09

been interesting this week because Bill Maher and

1:27:11

that really became, you know, news after the

1:27:13

weekend. But last Friday when he brought it

1:27:16

up about identity politics and then

1:27:18

Mr. Hughes on the view

1:27:20

and Bill Maher is going through the number

1:27:23

of black leaders out there that have stated

1:27:25

no, we need to eliminate race. We need

1:27:27

to get rid of it. I

1:27:29

have been saying that for 34 years and

1:27:32

seven months. I was saying it beforehand, but

1:27:34

on talk radio, 34 years and

1:27:36

seven months. Well, it's how we grew up.

1:27:38

Well, because that's what

1:27:40

you do. That's what I've always done.

1:27:42

You deal with people as individuals one

1:27:44

on one. That's how you

1:27:47

judge them. You don't judge people

1:27:49

by groups and the Democratic Party

1:27:51

can't stop being racist. They've got

1:27:53

to have and judge people by

1:27:55

groups and not individuals. Right. Well,

1:27:58

and here's the thing too. It's

1:28:00

a form of virtue signaling. I

1:28:03

care more because I want

1:28:05

to end racism and I'm just going to take

1:28:07

this something that doesn't really

1:28:09

exist, something that

1:28:11

is, you want to

1:28:14

talk about co-opted from the left, it's this idea

1:28:16

of racism and that it's

1:28:19

everywhere and it's the

1:28:21

worst it's ever been, which is false. It's

1:28:25

false and

1:28:27

you observe again

1:28:29

in our everyday

1:28:32

life. You

1:28:34

know I met a young man, it was a couple of

1:28:36

years ago but I've done business with him a couple of

1:28:38

times since and he moved

1:28:41

here from Louisiana and he said

1:28:43

I was really surprised, he's black,

1:28:45

he says I was really surprised

1:28:47

how diverse Texas was, the

1:28:50

Dallas area especially, but he

1:28:52

said now my mom was in Houston and

1:28:55

he said I had no idea. I

1:28:58

lived in Louisiana all my life, he said I had

1:29:00

no idea and when I moved here

1:29:02

it was like wow, I

1:29:05

grew up here and I'm

1:29:07

an Air Force brat. But

1:29:11

I didn't see, I wasn't

1:29:13

looking for and insisting on

1:29:15

diversity, it was just

1:29:18

there, it was just you

1:29:20

had friends from all over,

1:29:22

different ethnicities and cultures, they

1:29:25

were friends, they were family,

1:29:28

you and I both have a very

1:29:30

diverse family and I'm not trying to

1:29:34

be a champion for anything except for

1:29:37

good, decent behavior

1:29:39

and I start with myself on

1:29:41

that. 86690, Red Eye. In

1:29:46

touch with Red Eye Radio, toll free

1:29:48

at 86690RedEye. It's

1:30:09

Run-Eye Radio, he's our Carley and I'm

1:30:11

Gary McNamara. I think that

1:30:14

interview that they did with

1:30:16

Coleman Hughes, the author of

1:30:18

his book, saying we need to stop talking about race.

1:30:21

We need to start dealing with people as individuals. That's how

1:30:23

you do it. And again,

1:30:25

how they tried to make it

1:30:28

well, basically, Sonny

1:30:30

Huston, basically you're a

1:30:32

tool. I love how there

1:30:34

are blacks out there that believe you're, well, do you

1:30:37

believe it? And I'm bringing

1:30:39

this up because I want to be honest with you. Well,

1:30:41

just tell them that's your opinion. Don't

1:30:43

sit there and say some. That's

1:30:47

what you believe and you just don't have the

1:30:50

guts to say it because this guy can argue

1:30:52

with you. And this is why. By

1:30:54

the way, just an example of why MSNBC

1:30:57

doesn't want anybody who can articulate,

1:30:59

might be able to articulate any

1:31:01

idea. I'm not saying Ronald McDaniel

1:31:03

could. But the

1:31:05

fact is, you see this author went on there

1:31:07

and blew the view right out of the water.

1:31:10

Very, very calm saying, well, no,

1:31:12

anti-racism is racism. When you come out

1:31:14

and say all whites are ignorant,

1:31:17

that's a racist comment. They can't argue

1:31:19

it. I'm talking about you deal with

1:31:21

people one on one. You

1:31:23

worry about their character, how

1:31:25

they treat you with respect, things like

1:31:28

that. And the audience starts cheering. Yeah.

1:31:30

Yeah. And you can see nobody

1:31:32

is smiling on that panel. They don't

1:31:34

want to hear it. No. But

1:31:37

you get, you understand that it's

1:31:40

never been easier to defend

1:31:42

conservative ideas and be

1:31:45

a non-racist. And

1:31:48

understand that the

1:31:50

other side is the side that wishes to put

1:31:52

people. And why do you wish to put people

1:31:54

into groups? You only want to do that for

1:31:57

political power. Because we all know it's wrong. The

1:31:59

liberal audience. The audience of the view, the audience

1:32:01

going to the view is not conservative. No,

1:32:04

no. And they agreed

1:32:06

with the idea, get rid of race. Deal

1:32:10

with people as individuals. That

1:32:12

should be the goal. The view didn't,

1:32:14

the audience did, understand

1:32:16

that these people want power just

1:32:18

like it's no different than the

1:32:20

KKK or the White Area Nations.

1:32:23

These people want power by dividing

1:32:26

people. You saw it with the

1:32:28

Georgia election law when

1:32:30

Biden was as racist as you could

1:32:32

be comparing a

1:32:35

election integrity law and

1:32:37

things that the vast majority of

1:32:40

all people, irrespective of their demographics,

1:32:42

wanted. The polls show it. And

1:32:45

they came out and said it's basically this election

1:32:47

integrity law is Jim Crow on

1:32:49

steroids. They move the all-star

1:32:51

game away. Yep. Heard

1:32:54

a ton of black businesses in Atlanta

1:32:57

and now nobody cares about the law because it's

1:33:00

no big deal anymore yet because

1:33:02

they couldn't use it to their

1:33:04

political advantage. Biden was no better

1:33:07

that day than any leader of

1:33:09

the White Area Nations or the

1:33:11

KKK by attempting to divide people

1:33:13

by the color of their skin,

1:33:15

by telling a huge racial lie.

1:33:19

Instilling fear in people's hearts. That's what

1:33:21

they do. And

1:33:24

that's exactly what white supremacists do. And

1:33:27

there's no way around that. There's

1:33:30

no way around it. They use it and

1:33:33

have used it for years as a tactic and it's

1:33:35

about time it's over. And like I

1:33:37

said, you and I, one day we had that epiphany.

1:33:39

It was, oh, now we understand

1:33:41

why they call us racist for any opinion we

1:33:43

have because they believe. That's

1:33:45

how they think. That's how they think. And so

1:33:47

they think everybody else thinks that way. Yep. It's

1:33:50

how they think. Oh, yeah. We'll

1:33:53

go back to the summer 2020 when we said it. Yep.

1:33:56

Well, you know, racism is systemic and

1:33:58

institutionalized in this country. You're absolutely right.

1:34:00

I'm glad you guys agree because conservatives

1:34:02

don't. Yeah, we do. Words

1:34:06

institutionalized and systemic is inside the

1:34:08

Democratic Party and they've mainstreamed it.

1:34:12

Tell us where we're wrong. 866-90, red-eye. You're

1:34:48

listening to Red Eye Radio

1:34:50

from the UN and America

1:34:52

Studios. But

1:34:56

he's Eric Carleone, I'm Gary McNamara. And

1:35:00

so when we look at that last, when

1:35:02

we look at Coleman Hughes, the author of

1:35:05

the book saying, look, we need to forget

1:35:08

about race. We need to treat

1:35:10

people as individuals and

1:35:13

how the view was upset about it

1:35:15

and then how the crowd or the

1:35:17

audience, the crowd audience, whatever, how they

1:35:19

cheered for him. Remember that

1:35:21

liberal audience. This is how

1:35:24

easy it is for

1:35:27

anyone to win

1:35:29

the argument on

1:35:31

race and

1:35:33

the identity politics

1:35:35

and racism of the Democratic

1:35:37

Party. When

1:35:39

you can do that in a matter

1:35:41

of two minutes, get

1:35:45

the audience of the view cheering that

1:35:48

we shouldn't be focusing on race. We

1:35:50

should be focusing on individuals and race

1:35:53

needs to be gone. And

1:35:56

you don't hear Republicans talking about it.

1:35:59

There is a problem. problem there? Well,

1:36:03

it makes you wonder, you

1:36:08

know, Coleman Hughes talks about

1:36:10

writing at the free press and of

1:36:12

course we, you know, Barry Weiss, you

1:36:14

know, as soon as

1:36:16

he said that I thought, oh, Barry Weiss, right?

1:36:20

And the common thread there being,

1:36:23

you know, a couple of journalists who look

1:36:26

at things for the way that they are as

1:36:28

opposed to the

1:36:34

liberal activist journalist mindset, which is

1:36:37

I'm going to ignore the facts and

1:36:39

I'm going to basically shape my own

1:36:41

narrative through my work and that's

1:36:45

something that we greatly appreciate. And

1:36:48

I think to myself because

1:36:51

we wonder, you and I wonder, and it's hard to

1:36:53

gauge, it would, we

1:36:56

know that Scott Rasmussen's folks

1:36:58

listen on, you know, and on a

1:37:00

regular basis and we greatly appreciate that

1:37:03

we've had Scott on and

1:37:05

we would love to have him spend a

1:37:07

gazillion dollars on the polls that we want

1:37:09

to get on. But

1:37:12

they're impossible polls and it would

1:37:14

cost a gazillion dollars, you

1:37:16

know, to look at the mindset of how many

1:37:18

people are changing in that

1:37:20

way. And for me,

1:37:24

that poll would

1:37:26

have to be very specific in

1:37:28

that, okay, people like

1:37:31

Barry Weiss and now, you

1:37:33

know, Coleman Hughes, where we can

1:37:36

say, look, they're Bill Maher. Bill Maher.

1:37:38

Bill Maher said that. You know, these are individuals,

1:37:42

I think Rappaport, Michael Rappaport, the actor,

1:37:45

these are individuals who have espoused

1:37:47

liberal viewpoints in the past and

1:37:50

you could say, in fact, we know

1:37:52

for a fact that at least some of them were part

1:37:54

of building this whole thing. But

1:37:56

now I've looked at it and said, whoa.

1:38:00

is going on and they've discovered reality.

1:38:03

And reality is hitting, you know,

1:38:05

we talk about the issues and

1:38:07

delivering reality on a daily

1:38:09

basis and we're no longer in the abstract

1:38:11

on the issues. But

1:38:13

the issues of not

1:38:16

just today, think about this with

1:38:18

Barry Weiss, with Bill

1:38:21

Maher, with

1:38:23

these individuals, it's also

1:38:25

those issues that have been

1:38:27

building that, you know, they were,

1:38:29

and again, I don't wanna speak for Barry Weiss

1:38:31

here, but we know we've covered enough of them,

1:38:34

played enough of Bill Maher over the years to

1:38:36

know that he was part of building that narrative.

1:38:38

Yeah, he was. You know, and every once in

1:38:40

a while still steps back into the wrong narrative.

1:38:44

However, it

1:38:46

appears that they are discovering something

1:38:49

of where it all came

1:38:51

from, not just the snapshot

1:38:54

of today. It's important for

1:38:56

them to understand how we

1:38:58

got here. And it

1:39:00

appears that we have reached that

1:39:03

point, at least with these

1:39:05

individuals. And my question would be

1:39:07

how many Americans, how many rank and

1:39:09

file voters of any party

1:39:13

or following or ideology

1:39:16

are now looking at that going,

1:39:18

yeah, we're on the same page. Well, when

1:39:20

you have, you know, you've got Mr. Hughes

1:39:22

who was on The View, you

1:39:25

have the quote that Bill

1:39:27

Maher played from the

1:39:29

actor, I got my blank here,

1:39:32

Morgan Freeman, who said, I don't

1:39:34

want you to call me a black man. I'm not

1:39:36

gonna call you a white man. Right. You

1:39:39

know, call me my name. Don't

1:39:42

refer to me, I still, because

1:39:46

I understand that it's not me that

1:39:49

I'm speaking to, but it's others out there who,

1:39:53

for example, when I set

1:39:55

up what would happen on The View, and

1:39:57

I said, Mr. Hughes is a black man.

1:40:00

And I said that because I knew the

1:40:02

view would react to his skin color. I

1:40:05

am NOT reacting to his skin color right

1:40:08

I have always believed and this was you

1:40:11

know, I think instilled to me just by

1:40:13

the way I saw my parents and Then

1:40:17

the relationships that I had I

1:40:20

want to be completely autonomous from Anybody

1:40:23

else. Yeah, I'm autonomous I have

1:40:25

you and I agree on basically

1:40:27

the same thing, but we're autonomous of each other

1:40:29

You know We may have the same mindset made

1:40:31

fit and we think one of the things that

1:40:33

you and I've talked about in the past When

1:40:35

we don't spend a lot of time on it,

1:40:37

but we'll go how did this thing work

1:40:40

out? Why do we have chemistry and it's like maybe we

1:40:42

sort of connect the dots the same our minds Sort of

1:40:44

work in the same way and that's if you work in

1:40:46

the same way many times you come to the same You

1:40:48

know you come to the same conclusion, but right.

1:40:50

Yeah, I have always pushed now I come from

1:40:52

a very Very

1:40:56

multi-racial family Irish

1:40:59

Jamaican Colombian. Mm-hmm you

1:41:03

know, so I You

1:41:05

know when I have discussions when I have

1:41:07

the discussions with my nephew

1:41:10

when I have the discussion with

1:41:12

my great nephew you know

1:41:14

and and You know because

1:41:17

it's like well, you know, I'm not black.

1:41:19

I'm mixed whatever and I'm like you're not

1:41:21

any of that You're

1:41:23

you get rid of that You're you and

1:41:26

if anybody if anybody has a hang-up because

1:41:28

they talk about the fact the discrimination You

1:41:31

know if you're mixed you have there's discrimination Well,

1:41:35

you're not really black. Well, you're not really

1:41:37

white. You know, like you know and young

1:41:39

kids You know can use

1:41:41

that as ammo against you, you know

1:41:44

to put you down in some ways And

1:41:47

You know both my nephew and my

1:41:49

great nephew at times have mentioned

1:41:52

that to me and it's like don't pay attention to

1:41:54

that You're you know, I'm not

1:41:56

white You're not

1:41:58

black. You're not white You're

1:42:00

you. You're an individual. You're

1:42:03

a mind and a soul. That's

1:42:05

what you are. You're

1:42:07

an individual. Autonomy is everything.

1:42:09

Which is also to say, and we preach

1:42:12

to the young people in our family, you

1:42:14

know, I mean, your nephew, great nephew and

1:42:17

your other great

1:42:19

nieces and nephews are like your children

1:42:21

and I have children

1:42:24

and grandchildren and, you know, we

1:42:26

preach to them that it also means

1:42:29

that because of that autonomy, you

1:42:32

also own your behavior. Yes.

1:42:35

Those are things that, you know, it's it

1:42:38

is you are not to be judged one way or the

1:42:40

other except for

1:42:42

by your behavior, by your own

1:42:44

moral character. So you

1:42:47

know, and that's what I'm big on. And I

1:42:49

sense, you know, if you're you know, I sense

1:42:51

that and I've never talked to Barry Weiss, it

1:42:53

would be interesting to talk to her, you

1:42:56

know, because when she came out and wow,

1:42:59

I could vote for Trump now and how

1:43:01

anti-Trump she was. Right. And

1:43:04

and you you see her and you see the

1:43:06

free press. And what you see there is

1:43:08

trying to build autonomy from everything else.

1:43:10

We're going to build autonomy. We're

1:43:13

called the free press because we're going to hire

1:43:15

good people and let you go. Sort of like

1:43:17

National Review does the same thing. You

1:43:19

know, you don't get whatever you the

1:43:21

writers will say. Yeah, they told us no. Write

1:43:24

whatever you want. You know, we know

1:43:26

that you're it's like it's like our

1:43:28

company. We work for a major

1:43:30

company. I have no idea. I

1:43:33

have no idea what

1:43:36

politics my management has.

1:43:39

They basically have said and this is where people

1:43:41

you know, we get criticized when all you guys

1:43:44

get the talking points and it's the military industrial

1:43:46

complex that you know, is

1:43:48

telling you guys what to do, blah, blah, blah, blah,

1:43:50

blah, yada, yada, yada. No, no. They

1:43:52

actually came and said they actually come

1:43:55

to you and say, all right, go

1:43:57

on the air and do a show. By the way, that.

1:44:00

That says a lot about the bosses that you and I

1:44:02

have had over the years, 27 years

1:44:04

for me

1:44:08

under the same roof and you're closing

1:44:10

in on that. It

1:44:15

says a lot about those bosses that we

1:44:17

don't know, everything

1:44:20

that they feel politically. Now there are a couple of

1:44:22

them that made comments here and there, but it still

1:44:24

doesn't tell you everything about that. The

1:44:26

reason I say that that's a good thing

1:44:29

is because that's the way it should be. It's about

1:44:31

the job and that's the role

1:44:33

that they're in in that moment. They're not on

1:44:36

the air espousing their views. We are.

1:44:40

They know what the job is, what our job

1:44:42

is, what their job is. I

1:44:45

think with each of them has been a

1:44:47

very good relationship. But as I said, when

1:44:49

they say the entire thing is run by

1:44:51

the media industrial complex, really the

1:44:53

vast majority of talk radio, the conservative

1:44:55

talk radio and talk radio hosts

1:44:58

are completely independent of any management that they

1:45:00

work for. That's the beauty of

1:45:03

it because that's the autonomy that you want and

1:45:05

crave. I've always wanted that to the

1:45:07

degree of the autonomy that

1:45:10

we've gotten bashed

1:45:12

by Republicans. You guys aren't following what the

1:45:14

Republican Party says or what Trump says or

1:45:16

what Bush says. Yeah, because

1:45:19

that's not where I stand on the issue.

1:45:21

I'm not going to agree on an issue

1:45:23

because I'm supposed to belong to the same

1:45:25

tribe with the label. Well, I'm

1:45:27

not going to do that. I don't adhere. It's

1:45:30

not about me adhering to them. It's about whether

1:45:32

they adhere to me. Yeah, we said that remember

1:45:34

when and it should be that

1:45:36

way with every voter. Remember that when

1:45:38

we would get the calls, you guys haven't

1:45:40

endorsed the Tea Party. We go, well, that's

1:45:43

because that's the wrong premise. It's does the

1:45:45

Tea Party endorse what I think. Right.

1:45:48

Are they out there representing me? Since when

1:45:50

did I have to agree with

1:45:53

a particular group because of their label?

1:45:55

That's how the left operates. The left

1:45:57

has operatives out there. You need to.

1:46:00

follow the mantra. You need to

1:46:02

follow the talking points. You need to follow

1:46:04

the mission statement. You need to follow the

1:46:06

narrative. Conservatives

1:46:10

shouldn't ever be of that mindset. But

1:46:12

you know why? Because across the board,

1:46:15

whether it's you wanting your

1:46:17

autonomy as an individual

1:46:20

or professionally in the

1:46:22

media, you want it because

1:46:25

if you get it, you

1:46:28

don't lie. Exactly. You don't lie. Mr

1:46:30

Hughes, they asked him about, you know,

1:46:32

she accused him of being on his

1:46:34

podcast and saying he was a conservative

1:46:36

and he said, I don't remember saying

1:46:38

that, he said, but I have said

1:46:40

I will vote for a non-Trump Republican

1:46:42

whereas Barry Weiss would consider and has

1:46:44

said, you know, and he the point

1:46:46

is he works with Barry Weiss over

1:46:49

at the Free Press. That's something

1:46:51

that's an organization she started, a news

1:46:53

organization she started. And so,

1:46:56

you know, and by the way, just

1:46:58

so people know, Barry Weiss was one

1:47:00

of the Twitter files people.

1:47:02

Yes. Just so people know. And a

1:47:04

former liberal journalist.

1:47:07

For the New York Times. For the New York Times for

1:47:09

the longest time. And so, you know,

1:47:11

Mr. Hughes doesn't have to agree with Barry

1:47:13

Weiss even though they both write for the

1:47:15

Free Press, they kind of have the same

1:47:18

approach. You know, he may not support a

1:47:20

Trump type Republican or Trump himself,

1:47:23

but he understands the ideas,

1:47:26

you know. And

1:47:28

he's bringing out an idea that puts it right

1:47:31

in the face of the left. And they hate

1:47:33

that. They can't argue that. They can't

1:47:37

debate that. This totally

1:47:41

deconstructs everything they've been preaching

1:47:43

for such a long time.

1:47:47

And the applause from the audience says it all.

1:47:50

From a liberal audience. Yeah. At

1:47:52

the view. That's how he was

1:47:54

able to render that applause. Republicans, you need to

1:47:57

pay attention to that and understand you

1:47:59

can. You don't have

1:48:01

to defend your position on

1:48:03

race. You go after them for their

1:48:06

racism. Exactly. Don't defend,

1:48:09

attack. Right. 86690, Red Eye. We'll

1:48:14

be right back with more Red Eye

1:48:16

Radio with Eric Hurley and Gary McNamara.

1:48:38

It's Red Eye Radio. He's

1:48:41

Eric Hurley and Gary

1:48:43

McNamara. A couple of stories out

1:48:45

there. They tell you about the

1:48:47

Christian couple suing Washington State for

1:48:50

denying them a foster care license

1:48:52

because if they get, they've said

1:48:55

we will not, you

1:48:57

know, be involved in the whole radical

1:48:59

transgender movement. Right. You're not going to

1:49:01

give us a child and

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