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From the UNIDAN America Studios,

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this is Red Eye Radio. Hello

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and welcome. He is Gary McNamara.

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I'm Eric Harley as we move

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into a Tuesday. Gary, how

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are you? I'm doing very good.

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I'm very, very grateful, very appreciative

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this time of the year. Christmas

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right around the corner and I

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would like to thank Santa Claus

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for bringing so much stupidity to

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the world this year because it

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makes my life and

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my job so freaking

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easy to do. Thank

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you so much Santa Claus. Thank you Santa. We

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are very grateful for

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that. Look,

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we'd rather have boring jobs, truth

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be told. We'd rather

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everybody not be so bat

1:14

soup crazy. But

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Democrats. So that's all I

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got to say. And

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occasionally Republicans.

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That's when it gets really fun. That's

1:33

when everybody starts doing shots at Christmas party.

1:36

Well what got me, and I don't know

1:38

why, maybe it was just yesterday was we

1:42

had like three or four days in a row where

1:45

the media, everybody wondering

1:48

what in the world, you know, the story came out

1:50

about the president, you know,

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even back when he pardoned the turkeys,

1:55

you know,

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in November. By

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the way, they named the turkeys Hunter

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and James and signed a

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legal document. I don't know what that

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was about, but anyway, just

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secretly. I don't know why, but I'm thinking of

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what you do to turkeys around

2:15

Thanksgiving. I don't know. I

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don't know if that's where you were going, but

2:21

it's just, it was completely

2:23

befuddled. He has no idea what's going

2:25

on. And all of a sudden, let's

2:27

go to CNN and Acosta here. Yeah.

2:30

All right. And he had the, I

2:32

can't think of his last name, Greenberg, the, the

2:35

pollster on, yesterday

2:37

and talking about how grim it

2:39

is because yesterday is when you really, to

2:42

me, it was

2:44

the, it was

2:47

just what I've heard the last three or four days. And

2:49

then it got to me yesterday where it was like blowing

2:51

my head up where it was like,

2:53

we just, we don't know.

2:56

Is there too much of an

2:58

expectation from the people in

3:00

America about what government should do

3:03

because things are just wonderful right

3:05

now and the American public

3:07

just doesn't get it. And

3:09

this gets partly the poster,

3:12

you know, basically saying it's

3:14

inflation. It's prices, you idiots.

3:17

But he didn't say it that way. Right. All

3:19

right. But here's this back and forth. I have

3:22

though is, is inflation is cooling.

3:24

I mean, if you look at gas prices, they're

3:26

going down there around three bucks a gallon in

3:28

the, in the Washington, DC area, Maryland

3:30

and Virginia. I suspect it's fluctuates

3:33

depending on where you are around the country, but

3:35

generally coming down, people aren't feeling

3:37

that enough just yet. It's a bubble.

3:39

Yeah. It's a bubble. People

3:42

look, but what I, what I have discovered

3:44

in doing my polling in Europe and

3:47

UK and here, what

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matters is how many months. People

3:51

have been struggling to deal with inflation and

3:54

each month they get matter and matter about it,

3:56

as long as their, their wages are

3:58

trailing prices. And there's

4:00

still three, look, get out of the bubble.

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They are 3% higher than it was

4:09

when Biden came in. And in the

4:11

last six months, there's

4:13

been a decline in disposable income. So

4:16

the context is you have to start

4:18

there. Insulation is like 30

4:20

points higher than the next problem.

4:24

And you can't, you know, what

4:26

the president's currently doing is his

4:28

tweets always start with, we're

4:30

making progress. And then he mentioned the prices.

4:33

If you look at it as aims at Black voters, it's

4:36

mainly trying to convince them that it does a good

4:38

job. But that's not where they are. They

4:41

are losing ground every month and anger

4:44

about it. I think you have

4:46

to stop. You have

4:48

to say, what's the main problem? How

4:50

do you deal with the first problem, which is inflation.

4:54

Stanley Greenberg, a Democratic poster, just so you

4:57

know. But you can see

4:59

it in Acosta's face. It's just

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like, and then all

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the stories on, you know, what's going

5:05

on? Why doesn't the public appreciate, you

5:07

know, what an absolutely wonderful government that

5:10

they have right now. And it's just, and you

5:12

just like, you shake your head, you're like, are

5:15

they purposely being stupid? Because

5:18

the last thing I would wanna do is

5:22

purposely be stupid. Well,

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you know, by the way, on the radio, I mean,

5:27

I'd hate to sit there and, you know, and

5:30

take a position where

5:33

I know that I'm gaslighting, but

5:35

I believe that I have to stick

5:37

with the narrative of my tribe. And

5:40

so I'm gonna try to make a

5:42

ridiculous argument that you can't make. Right,

5:45

yeah, exactly. It's, I,

5:49

you know, I look at it and go, well,

5:52

I think they're repeating things almost

5:55

like they're trying to do a Jedi mind

5:57

trick. One

6:00

of the things that they

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always pick

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is the gas prices, because

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gas prices do fluctuate. He did

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mention that. But

6:12

in this, hey, things are coming down

6:14

and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,

6:17

you can't really say that about

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inflation. You

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can't say that about anything in terms of

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the prices where, you know,

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you might get to that point at

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some point where you can get beyond

6:33

talking about inflation. But

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you're not going to get to the point where

6:38

you can say, no, prices have come back down.

6:40

They've come back down. They come back down. And

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that's what they imply when they say this. No,

6:46

inflation is cooling. Everything and blah, blah,

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blah. Anybody that's watching that going

6:50

– even liberals – they're

6:53

watching that saying, no,

6:57

prices aren't coming down. You're

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delusional. I'm struggling here at

7:03

the end of the year trying to figure out how I'm

7:05

going to do it in 24, make ends meet. I'm

7:10

using credit cards, running those up to

7:13

the max. No, prices aren't

7:16

coming down. You're delusional. That's the thing.

7:18

They can't talk in the abstract, and

7:20

they're so used to talking in

7:22

the abstract. Well, you

7:25

know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. You

7:27

know, I mean, whatever it was back

7:29

in the day, single payer if we just had

7:31

single – if we just had – if it

7:33

were just this way. If

7:36

we were just to do this, you know, if we

7:38

just had comprehensive immigration

7:41

reform – you

7:45

know, we talked about that yesterday. It's

7:48

mind-boggling that they can't

7:50

snap out of it. You've

7:52

got to – if you're on the left

7:54

and you're running for office – well, frankly, do

7:58

what the Dallas mayor did. become a

8:00

Republican because the

8:02

problem is that for

8:04

the left, the days of talking in the abstract

8:07

are gone. Reality has hit, I

8:09

mean, every single wall. There's

8:12

no way to walk through your day

8:14

now and look at all the abstract

8:16

things they used to talk about politically

8:19

and the points they used to make and

8:21

the talking points they used to make which

8:24

were in the abstract. It's no longer a

8:26

theoretical discussion, including what's

8:30

going on right now with Hamas and

8:32

Israel. By the way, that comes from

8:34

the current governor of California. Remember, Gavin

8:36

Newsom made a trip to Israel and

8:38

he came back and he said, look,

8:40

the whole thing about

8:43

Israel and all of that. And

8:45

I don't know if he specifically mentioned two-state

8:47

solution. Now, he, by the way, could have

8:50

backtracked this. Liberals could have cornered him.

8:52

But he said, you know, it's no

8:54

longer this theoretical discussion. In other

8:56

words, he was basically acknowledging, yeah,

8:59

this has gotten very real

9:01

very quickly after October 7th,

9:04

which is true. You

9:07

know, one lucid moment from the

9:10

governor of California. When

9:12

you look at the Democratic Party and

9:14

you realize that the statesmen over

9:16

the last 10 days has been

9:18

Fettermen, that's how you know

9:20

how bad the Democratic Party is. And

9:23

they're trying to float Hillary again, you know,

9:25

for a couple of days, you know, well,

9:27

Hillary's out there defending Biden

9:29

and blah blah blah blah blah blah.

9:32

No, but Fetterman's doing the opposite. That's

9:34

my point. Oh, I know. I know.

9:37

But the whole thing, they're trying to

9:39

change the focus

9:42

on anyone and everyone,

9:45

you know, and that's how bad

9:48

it has gotten. This

9:50

is, look, I've

9:53

been saying, I don't know how you run in 24. If

9:55

you're running for office, if you're in the House or

9:58

one of the seats that's up in the Senate, I

10:02

don't know how as a Democrat, I don't know how you do it.

10:06

I don't know what you campaign on. I

10:12

guess you get state specific on things and

10:14

you just don't go outside of that bubble.

10:18

You know, I'm just reading here a couple

10:20

of things. What am I reading here? Charles

10:22

Cook and Jim Garrity,

10:24

national review. For

10:26

months, the president and first lady, Joe

10:28

Biden, have told aides and friends there

10:30

frustrated by the president's low approval rating

10:32

and the polls that show him trailing

10:34

former president Donald Trump, the front runner

10:37

for the Republican nomination. And in recent

10:39

weeks, they have grown upset that they

10:41

are not making more progress. I

10:43

wonder, has Joe Biden considered not

10:46

being a terrible president? Well,

10:49

you know, I ask this because Biden's

10:52

dire poll numbers are always

10:54

presented as if they're a

10:56

mystery. Right. Look at

10:58

the post language, frustrated,

11:00

unacceptably low, upset

11:02

that they are not making more progress.

11:04

Clearly, President Biden thinks that he should

11:07

be more popular than he is. And

11:09

so evidently, does the

11:12

press, which has taken in

11:15

the some quarters to the

11:17

most preposterous conspiracy theorizing, weaken,

11:20

weak out the topic is

11:22

covered as the public

11:24

is failing the president rather than

11:26

the other way around. He's a

11:28

good leader. We're informed. But for

11:30

some reason, the public just hasn't

11:32

noticed it. Well, they've done

11:35

that on every front. Right. The problem is

11:37

it isn't true.

11:39

Joe Biden is not a good

11:42

leader. His approval rating is not

11:44

unacceptably low and the public

11:46

has no obligation to develop a different

11:48

view of him than the one

11:50

it has at the present.

11:53

Had he wished to Biden could

11:55

have been a mediocre president, having

11:58

come into office after a bipartisan.

12:00

COVID-Era spending binge, binge he could

12:03

have refused his party's request for

12:05

trillions of dollars of unnecessary

12:07

spending and thereby avoided much

12:09

of the inflation that has haunted

12:12

him since 2021. Having

12:16

been invited to violate his own oath of

12:18

office by issuing

12:20

an illegal eviction moratorium,

12:23

an illegal student loan

12:25

amnesty and an illegal

12:27

vaccine mandate, he could have publicly

12:30

explained that he lacked the authority

12:33

and would not illegitimately claim

12:35

it. And

12:38

having inherited a southern border that was

12:40

more stable than it had been in

12:42

a while, he could have played the

12:44

adult in the room and informed the

12:46

loudest voices within the progressive movement

12:49

that he had no interest in

12:51

deliberately reopening the flow. Buddy didn't

12:53

do those things. And

12:57

they have it right here too that then Garrity

12:59

writes about the the whole thing

13:01

with the negotiations going on that look like you

13:03

know they're gonna go to the beginning of the

13:05

year now. You notice it's

13:07

this week that the debate over additional Ukraine

13:09

aid is almost always framed as those

13:12

stubborn and transient isolationist

13:15

Republicans aren't willing to

13:17

help Ukraine and it is

13:19

true enough that Republicans insist that

13:21

one of their top priorities, border

13:23

security, gets funded alongside the aid

13:27

for Ukraine as well as Taiwan and Israel.

13:30

Mike Johnson, the speaker, said

13:33

at a Wall Street Journal

13:35

summit yesterday my message to Ukrainian president

13:38

will be the same as it's been to

13:40

President Biden. This is an important battle for

13:42

all the reasons we know but I don't

13:44

think it's a radical proposition to say if

13:47

we're going to have a

13:49

national security supplemental package it ought

13:51

to begin with our own national

13:53

security but notice how rarely President

13:56

Biden congressional Democrats are portrayed as

13:58

stubborn or an transient for

14:00

refusing to make the border security

14:02

changes that Republicans want in order

14:04

to reach a deal with Ukraine.

14:07

And no, Republicans are not demanding

14:09

the construction of a big beautiful

14:11

wall from the Gulf of Mexico

14:13

to the Pacific Ocean, even though

14:15

their offer does call for resuming

14:17

the border fencing construction that Biden

14:19

canceled at the start of his

14:21

presidency. Senate Republicans want the

14:23

current overloaded system of the silent claims

14:25

to be changed so that not everyone

14:28

who shows up at the border says

14:30

they're seeking asylum gets to

14:33

stay in the country indefinitely.

14:36

And so these are all things, everything.

14:39

And for the fact,

14:42

I mean, for them, do they actually

14:44

know? I mean, if you

14:46

went to Jim Acosta, does he actually know

14:49

that what he is promoting is pure BS?

14:53

Does he do Democrats actually know that

14:55

the problem with this president and the

14:57

Democrats is the problems

14:59

that we see today are not

15:02

this is in a situation where these problems

15:04

came because of world events, whatever they

15:06

created the problem. The

15:09

public is understanding they created the

15:11

problem. And so they

15:13

understand that if they created the problem,

15:16

they certainly wish to do anything but

15:18

solve the problem. Well, I think, you

15:20

know, it's quite possible that he buys

15:22

into it. He's so delusional and he

15:25

just doesn't get it. Or

15:28

he does. And he's

15:30

trying to make this absurd case so

15:33

that Democrats can maintain power. Look,

15:37

for those, I don't

15:39

know, secondary

15:42

surrogates, the media, the liberal media,

15:47

they know. They

15:49

don't want conservatives in power. So

15:52

you do everything to, you know, to keep

15:55

up the image that and there's no. way

16:00

to win that. There's

16:03

no way on inflation and

16:05

the economy to win it right now.

16:07

Just avoid it. Your

16:10

old buddy Chris Cuomo, take

16:13

a note from him. He avoided

16:16

the biggest scandal about his

16:18

brother for a long, long

16:20

time. Oh, we just avoid it.

16:22

We didn't talk about this. Did you notice that

16:25

the latter part of last week, I forgot

16:27

to talk about it yesterday. It popped into

16:29

my head today. Did you notice they were

16:31

bringing the term Bidenomics back again? Yeah. After

16:33

not doing it for about two weeks and

16:35

then they brought it back Friday. I

16:38

heard a Saturday over the weekend. Yep. Green

16:40

John Pierre mentioned Biden, and it's like

16:45

I think it got to the point where they're like, we're

16:47

not mentioning it. Now we're being mocked for not mentioning it.

16:49

So we've got to mention it again. We don't need to

16:51

look afraid. Well, and he may have done that. Hey,

16:54

yeah. I'm proud

16:56

of Bidenomics. Blah, blah, blah. I can see

16:58

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20:03

You can inhale. Don't

20:06

exhale. Bill Clinton. Right. You can't exhale.

20:08

Right. Yeah. Otherwise

20:10

you're destroying the planet. I swear to

20:12

you, new study is out. Which

20:14

is actually easier these days because

20:17

everybody's smoking weed. I

20:20

am the Eggman. Everybody's

20:27

smoking pot. Everybody.

21:01

Give a gift of the Red-Eyed Radio M

21:03

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21:05

from Gary McEmer and Eric

21:07

Hurley, Roodeye Radio. I

21:14

don't know. You might not make it to Christmas if

21:16

you follow this advice. Yeah. What's that? This

21:19

is a new government funded

21:21

study out of Great Britain

21:23

conducted by scientists at

21:26

the UK Center for

21:28

Ecology purports

21:31

to show that human breathing causes

21:34

global warming. The

21:39

study's authors are urging

21:41

caution in the assumption that

21:44

emissions from humans don't

21:50

make an effect. That

21:53

your human breathing is destroying

21:56

the planet. Don't

21:58

you dare think that it's not. Yeah. Told

22:02

you. Well,

22:05

we knew that was coming. I'm

22:08

amazed it took that long to

22:10

have a study on it, because you and

22:12

I go all the way back to talking

22:14

about the idiots

22:17

that were out there saying, this goes back 15 years

22:20

ago. You and I just started working

22:23

together. Remember the

22:26

ecology futurists came out and said

22:28

that all major cities have to go,

22:31

that we have a population. At

22:33

that point, what would have been, 7

22:35

billion? Forgot what it was. Remember

22:38

they said we need to go down to a billion people.

22:41

We need to go down to a billion people, and

22:43

there cannot be a city over 25,000. And

22:47

so it's like, OK, we knew they

22:49

would get there. In order to save

22:51

the planet, human beings must die. Yeah.

22:55

Then why are you saving the planet? Exactly.

22:59

What's up? Like that

23:01

series? That what was it? After

23:04

humans or after man or whatever it

23:06

was? Yeah. We don't care. We

23:10

don't want to know. We

23:12

don't care. It's not going to be us. I

23:14

don't care. It's going

23:16

to be Will Smith and a bunch of animals. That's

23:18

it. I'm watching it. It's

23:21

on. I start watching this. They show the

23:23

building's decaying. I'm about 10 minutes into it.

23:27

Why am I watching it? I wouldn't be here.

23:30

I wouldn't be able to watch it if it was

23:32

happening, and there would be no human beings to watch

23:35

it. So if a city rots

23:37

and nobody is there, is it really

23:40

rotting? Right. I see the

23:42

weeds growing inside the office buildings. And

23:45

I'm thinking, OK, if they're going to get to the point where

23:48

animals evolve to the point of mowing

23:50

lawns and using weed eaters, I'll

23:53

stick around. But otherwise, I don't want to know.

23:56

I don't care. This is the problem that

23:58

they have. If

24:01

you're going to put something interesting in it, it

24:03

has no interest to me. None.

24:07

You know, the thing about exploring space is about,

24:09

you know, for

24:12

some, our future, but also exploring what's out

24:14

there and, you know, that whole

24:16

thing. Exploring this idea

24:18

of what if we weren't around? I

24:22

don't care. And

24:25

think about it. We've solved because

24:27

of this the

24:29

whole males competing

24:31

against females in sports.

24:34

You're breathing heavier, so

24:37

there are no sports. All sports have to

24:39

be canceled, so people aren't breathing as heavily

24:41

and expelling, I

24:44

almost said exporting, expelling

24:49

unnecessary global warming

24:51

gases, especially carbon dioxide into

24:54

the atmosphere. Which then

24:56

if we quit breathing out, I'm

24:58

thinking about giving up breathing out, by the way. I'm

25:01

seriously thinking about giving up

25:04

exhaling completely. But

25:06

it was before this report, by the way, I

25:09

was going to do it as my new year's right.

25:15

I think I'll do something different. And

25:22

then what are the plants going to thrive on? And

25:24

you know, the plants are

25:27

what, you know, they

25:29

actually thrive

25:31

on what we're exhaling

25:34

and then that's good for

25:36

the environment. We'll kill all the trees

25:39

if we quit exhaling. And

25:42

there is that problem too. Yeah, yeah. It's,

25:45

you know, it's a conundrum. It really is. And

25:47

I've joked about this for years. The

25:50

problem is humans, the problem is that we exist,

25:52

the problem is that we're breathing out because that's,

25:55

it's been thrown around not in

25:58

study form, you know, the study coming

26:00

out here is different, but it's

26:03

essentially the culmination of all these years. And

26:07

you know people on the

26:09

left go, oh you're being ridiculous and blah blah blah

26:11

blah blah, now here you go. The

26:14

next is going to be, alright, mandatory

26:18

birth control. And

26:21

I think for the current generation they're like, no

26:23

we're good, we don't think we need it. We

26:26

don't go near each other. Ew. You

26:30

know, it's... Okay,

26:33

I'm back to demolition man and the sex

26:35

scene in demolition man. By the way, if

26:37

you've never seen demolition man,

26:39

it's not what you think. Yeah, no,

26:42

you gotta... Yeah, it's not what you

26:44

think at all. And you

26:46

know, we've

26:48

seen it before. What was the... was it

26:51

the governor of

26:53

Oregon said we've

26:55

got to, you know, basically, you know,

26:57

reduce the population. You just mentioned reducing

26:59

the population, but... Reduce the GDP. Reduce

27:01

the GDP and then we... By 13%

27:03

by... Yeah, that's

27:05

what it was. That's by 2100. That's

27:07

what they were promoting. But it's... and

27:10

then we extrapolated out very quickly, okay,

27:12

that means a lot of people are

27:14

going to die. Yeah, hundreds of millions of

27:16

people would die. Yep, third world nations, that

27:18

would be, you know, people would starve.

27:21

If you're going to... That kind

27:23

of reduction. Right. Because remember,

27:25

it's the GDP right now. Yeah,

27:28

it's a GDP right now and by

27:31

2100, not reduce the rate

27:33

of growth. Yeah.

27:35

By that, by 13%. But

27:38

cut what we're using right now, you have to cut right

27:40

now 13% of the

27:42

GDP and that would have to stay steady

27:45

all the way for the next 75 years.

27:47

Yeah. Well, and think about

27:50

it. If you talk about an

27:52

average of 3% growth over

27:56

75 years, you're... talking

28:00

what? And

28:02

economies, a world economy that

28:04

would be over way over 200%

28:08

more than

28:10

it is right now. And they're saying, no, no,

28:12

no, we can never do that. Well, the only

28:14

result of that would be hundreds of millions of

28:16

people starving to death. People don't. And that's why

28:18

one of the things we've said, and we've we

28:20

said it yesterday, we said it last week a

28:23

lot on on a lot of different things. We

28:25

said Republicans and

28:27

conservatives need to start tearing everything apart.

28:30

And I will say this, and in tearing everything apart,

28:32

some of the best people doing it right now were

28:35

former Democrats. Oh, yeah.

28:37

And you're looking at you're looking at Michael Schellenberger.

28:39

You're looking at a B Matt Taibbi. You're looking

28:41

at Barry White, all former Democrats. You're looking at

28:43

Jonathan Turley legal, you know, legal wise

28:46

doing that and looking at things

28:48

that Democrats are doing all former

28:50

completely, totally loyal Democrats who have

28:52

said, this is insane,

28:55

where we're going. And you and I

28:57

have really big we talked

28:59

about this yesterday on

29:02

on the comprehensive immigration

29:05

reform. And we said, What do they

29:07

mean by that? They never explain it.

29:09

Well, we know what they mean by

29:11

it. And they don't mean securing the

29:13

border. They mean processing people to become

29:15

citizens, whoever wants to come across the

29:17

border. That's what comprehensive immigration reform is.

29:19

That's why they never tell you what

29:21

it is. Right. They never say, Here's

29:23

what we want to do with the

29:25

border. They simply throw out comprehensive immigration

29:28

reform because they believe you're an idiot.

29:30

And if it sounds complicated, oh, it's

29:32

comprehensive immigration reform. Well, then I want

29:34

that that person. They think you're an

29:36

idiot. They can sell you anything with the slogan.

29:38

Yep. And at least one Republican

29:40

was an idiot who countered with, Oh,

29:43

no, not 5000. We'll only do 3000 a

29:45

day for a brief moment last week. Well,

29:48

it's still apparently I've still still see it

29:50

in the articles out there. If if it

29:52

if it is not gone away of that

29:54

thought has not gone away. If that thing

29:56

is introduced, if that idea is introduced anywhere

29:58

on Capitol Hill. by any member

30:01

of GOP, then we're doomed. It's over.

30:03

Then we're not gonna fix the problem.

30:06

If the GOP goes for that, I'm voting

30:08

for Kennedy. Yes. Exactly.

30:12

No, excuse me. Well, I'm

30:14

voting for Federman. You're right. You heard

30:16

Federman came out yesterday and said, securing

30:19

the border is not xenophobia. Well,

30:23

a Democrat United States Senator said

30:25

that. Right, right. Securing the

30:27

border, and it was Federman who said that.

30:29

I know. You couple that with his

30:31

position on Israel, and it's like,

30:33

what's going on with Federman? I

30:36

mean, we're at this point though.

30:40

Seriously. And by

30:42

the way, you mean Kennedy,

30:44

the former MTV, VJ,

30:48

not Robert Kennedy. No,

30:50

I meant Robert Kennedy. And

30:53

she's not running. No, she's, as

30:55

far as we know. Did she lose

30:58

her show on Fox Business? I

31:01

don't know. I thought

31:03

she... I

31:05

don't know. I don't watch outnumbered, because I'm

31:07

usually not watching TV. First of all, I

31:09

don't watch a lot of TV. That wasn't

31:12

outnumbered. But no, but I mean, she's on

31:14

outnumbered a lot. And I don't.

31:17

I sometimes hear it on the radio, because I

31:20

have Fox News on the radio sometimes. But

31:22

I don't know that I've heard her

31:24

on it lately, but that doesn't mean

31:27

anything. We're so old that

31:29

we remember her on MTV. Oh

31:32

yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

31:36

That's how old we are. Right. Yeah.

31:40

And you know, you

31:42

think about

31:45

this. We

31:47

were talking earlier this hour about,

31:50

you know, you mentioned Federman just kind of,

31:53

you know, on a couple of issues

31:55

at least. Who did

31:57

he talk to? I forget

31:59

he was talking. I think it was

32:01

NBC. I'm pretty sure I've got

32:03

the article saved, but I believe

32:05

I'm right on that NBC News. I

32:08

did an interview. I'll go back and double-check that.

32:12

And this goes back to last week. And

32:14

he said, and he

32:16

was saying, look, I'm – he

32:21

was talking about his position on Israel. He

32:23

was defending Israel. It was canceled in June. Okay. Sure. Okay.

32:26

All right. And

32:29

so Fetterman was talking about a

32:33

lot of people on the right actually have

32:35

been acknowledging the fact that he's defending Israel's

32:37

right to defend themselves and the whole thing.

32:40

And he brought it up. And he

32:42

said something to the effect of, I

32:45

haven't completely changed or

32:47

blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I'm

32:49

still for – he just

32:51

threw the word choice out there. I'm like,

32:54

choice of what? And all

32:56

these things. But

32:59

I thought to myself, all right, but

33:03

we've asked the question. Is there a

33:05

reckoning with some Democrats? I

33:07

don't know if that's what's going on with Fetterman or just –

33:10

we're just now getting around to

33:13

these issues and dealing with Fetterman on these

33:15

issues. And that's where he

33:17

stands and is kind of always thought that way. I don't

33:19

know. I don't – he's

33:22

still a liberal. It's like the Joe Manchin

33:24

thing. He's

33:27

not going to act – he's not going to behave

33:29

any differently in terms of his job

33:32

as a senator. I don't expect that to

33:34

happen. I could be wrong, but

33:37

I don't expect him to be

33:40

moving further to the right. I

33:43

know yesterday he wants to stop the sale of U.S.

33:45

Steel to the Chinese company. Right. Yeah.

33:47

Well, that's a big deal where he's – Oh,

33:50

I know. It's a huge – did you see – and

33:52

I think the Chinese – The 14

33:54

billion, I think. Yeah, but I think the

33:57

Chinese made this up. Did you see why they wish

33:59

to buy U.S. Steel? No. And

34:01

I think they did this in

34:03

order to make the

34:05

regulators of the Biden administration

34:09

go, oh yeah, well this is

34:11

why they bought it. They said

34:13

because they believe that because of

34:15

the infrastructure... They

34:17

use the word infrastructure. Because of the

34:20

infrastructure bill, so much steel

34:22

will be produced for the United States that

34:24

it's a good time for them to

34:26

buy it. I'm like, they're making that up.

34:28

They're making that one up. I'll

34:30

tell you, it could be a

34:33

very, very... Actually, it is a very big

34:35

deal. But if you think about China

34:38

taking possession or buying US

34:41

steel, that's

34:46

a big move. You do

34:48

security concern. Yeah, it's a

34:50

massive, massive supply issue concern

34:52

forever. If

34:54

that transaction goes through, that

34:56

could be a problem for, well,

34:59

anything you use steel for. 86690,

35:01

Redeye. Hey,

35:29

it's Redeye Radio. He is Eric Hurley,

35:32

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35:36

then the New Year's resolution, stop breathing

35:39

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35:42

the planet. By the way,

35:44

the researchers investigated

35:46

emissions of CO2, methane,

35:51

and nitrous

35:53

oxide in human breathing.

35:56

Yeah. Well, it was just human breathing.

36:00

breathing they did to check that I'm

36:02

just trying to be science I make sure

36:04

they covered everything scientifically was just methane

36:07

from your breath or no

36:10

the methane comes from somewhere else right

36:12

right I mean they the examination

36:14

of the abduction and processing of

36:16

food that we ingest I'm

36:19

just gonna put it that okay I think that's

36:21

a very very good way to explain it byproducts

36:24

of the processing of the food we

36:26

ingest thank you and

36:29

you're welcome and I think we'll stop there

36:31

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36:33

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36:37

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36:39

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36:57

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37:43

being here sorry my bad what

37:47

well I said you know Japan

37:50

Oh on the US yeah nip and steel

37:52

wanting to buy that I know it's a

37:55

Japan company and I said China and you

37:57

act when afterwards because we got a few

37:59

calls No, no, it's a

38:03

Japanese company, not China. And

38:05

as you mentioned, it's like, Gary, you

38:07

might've thought that because early news stories earlier

38:10

today were mentioning that it was a China

38:12

company. Right, yeah. And that must've stuck in

38:14

my head. Yeah, I was thinking that earlier.

38:16

One of the news alerts. First

38:19

thing, like moments after it came

38:21

out, said China, but it

38:23

is Japan. Either way, the concern would

38:25

be supply issue. And

38:29

then from there, okay, well, what's

38:31

in the best interest? You know,

38:33

Japan's a strong trade partner. Look,

38:36

China's a strong trade partner. But

38:40

with the facilities and they have, I

38:43

don't know, I didn't count, but a couple

38:45

dozen maybe facilities here in the US.

38:47

They've closed three in the last few years. And

38:49

then by the way, this is US steel

38:53

that we're talking about. Right, right,

38:55

right, right. So

38:57

you think about, all

38:59

right, in fact, three of the

39:02

five that were once in Pennsylvania,

39:05

the one in Pittsburgh closed in 84, the

39:09

one in Homestead, Pennsylvania closed in 86, the

39:17

keysport closed in 2014. So

39:20

you only have two of the five

39:23

in Pennsylvania. And

39:25

I'm guessing consolidation may be expansion

39:28

there at the Montvalley Works location. And they

39:30

have, and also they have steel manufacturing. By

39:32

the way, there were two, I'm sorry, there

39:35

were two in Pittsburgh, one

39:37

of them closed. The Montvalley Works

39:39

is still open. They also have

39:42

steel plants in

39:44

Europe. Right, yeah. US

39:46

steel does. And so the concern

39:48

would be a supply issue

39:52

and also a control issue. It

39:55

doesn't matter who the trade partner is. If

39:59

there's... uh any

40:01

type of disruption to

40:03

production. Now, Japan

40:05

doesn't have quite

40:08

frankly the space uh

40:10

to you know uh if you were to take the

40:12

facilities that are open here in the US and

40:15

then try and consolidate them even only into a

40:17

handful of facilities there in Japan

40:20

that doesn't make sense because then you're

40:22

you know you're producing and then sending

40:25

it now. They will be

40:27

as you mentioned during the break opening

40:30

up to a global marketplace. This is

40:32

something that we have seen with energy

40:35

from the US and we

40:37

are exporting we started exporting rock

40:39

crude several years ago which

40:42

helped to stabilize the uh the

40:44

global oil prices. What

40:46

this will do for steel some

40:49

believe is this could lower

40:51

the prices if you've got a much

40:54

larger um uh

40:57

exporting potential as a company. Yes, steel

40:59

has got steel has gone up and

41:02

over the what was it 55 percent I don't know

41:04

the time period over the last year year and a

41:06

half or so uh and

41:08

and the the argument being made

41:11

by those who are saying this would be a

41:14

good deal and that is in Federman. Federman came

41:16

out and Senator Federman and said

41:18

uh you know uh uh

41:20

steel companies shouldn't be owned. If it

41:22

was China you would ever you would

41:24

ever solid solid point. If

41:27

it's Japan what if it's Europe what if it was Great Britain

41:29

what if it was Germany uh

41:31

you know would there even be a ripple of

41:33

concern about it. Now uh

41:35

US Steel is the 24th largest steel maker

41:37

in the in the world. Right. They are

41:39

number two in the United States New Corps

41:42

number one. Yeah the point they're trying to

41:44

make is if because I think US Steel

41:46

lost money last

41:48

year. Yeah. So if New Corps

41:50

bought them let's say they

41:53

bought them and instead then you

41:57

would have more of a monopoly of steel

41:59

prices that's the point that's trying to

42:01

be made that the

42:03

critics or the supporters

42:06

saying it's, you know, for the Nippon Steel

42:09

in Japan to buy it is a better

42:11

deal than if it was bought here

42:13

in the United States because then there

42:15

would be more of a monopoly on steel here. I

42:19

don't know whether that would be true or not because

42:21

steel, like anything, is sold on

42:24

an international market. I

42:26

don't know whether it's more likely or

42:29

whether if you had, you

42:32

know, Nucor controlling everything

42:35

hypothetically, if that's what was

42:37

happening in

42:39

this case, whether the quick

42:41

supply chain, you

42:44

know, being able to get the steel there faster

42:46

because it's right here. So it

42:49

would be an advantage over Japanese

42:52

steel. So was

42:55

it was Trump at a US steel

42:58

location when he announced the steel tariffs?

43:02

I forget which location he was

43:05

at. Remember announcing it on

43:07

the fly and everyone was like,

43:09

whoa. My

43:14

question would be, and I guess

43:18

only maybe only time will tell, if

43:21

it is owned by

43:23

Japan, does that take out the political

43:26

pressure on things

43:31

like tariffs or does that increase it even

43:34

further? How does it affect that

43:37

kind of behavior or concern

43:39

there? The political pressure

43:41

on the supply of steel. If

43:43

you look at, in

43:45

fact, the Bush steel tariffs, you go back to

43:47

that. You

43:49

had a number of plants, manufacturing plants,

43:52

not steel plants, but plants that you

43:54

steal in their manufacturing that

43:56

had to shut down and move out

43:58

of the US. too expensive. And

44:03

so I'm

44:05

interested to see what economists think this is

44:07

going to do long term. We

44:10

just kind of laid it out there, what the two schools of

44:12

thought are. But

44:16

the political pressure

44:18

on, especially

44:21

with tariffs, that

44:23

was a big thing for him to announce,

44:25

for Trump to announce when he did. It

44:28

was a big deal. And

44:31

with Bush in it, well,

44:33

they had to reverse it. And

44:37

you can't create that

44:40

kind of pricing

44:42

pressure. I'm guessing that's what's

44:44

happening with US Steel. I'd have

44:46

to go back and look and see what

44:48

was driving those lost

44:50

profits over the

44:52

last year or so. And the reason that

44:55

I believe it could be the case with

44:58

inflation is that you

45:00

see also the slowing down of the consumer

45:03

on a lot of these big

45:05

ticket items. We're seeing this in trucking right

45:07

now, the shipment of certain goods. And

45:12

that tells us what people are buying. Well,

45:14

remember, after a year, Trump also

45:17

reversed the tariffs

45:21

on steel and aluminum for Canada and

45:23

Mexico with the Free Trade Agreement

45:27

came in. Australia was

45:29

excluded from it. There

45:33

were quotas for Brazil and South

45:35

Korea. And

45:39

then in August of 2020, Trump

45:41

announced the US was re-imposing tariffs

45:43

on aluminum imports from Canada. We

45:46

know that when you do that, economic

45:51

growth is stifled because prices go

45:53

up. And this is the

45:55

one thing we had talked when

45:57

Trump wanted to put the tariffs on China. You

46:00

know, we agreed with that. We thought he

46:02

was completely wrong to go after

46:04

Europe, Canada, and Mexico. Because

46:07

those are the, those are the nations

46:09

that you wish to have

46:11

as trading partners and

46:14

his attempt to bring in India. Remember

46:19

that? Yeah. To bring in India

46:21

to say, let's deal with India instead of

46:23

China. You and I also thought was a

46:25

good thing to, to

46:27

wall off China. Because

46:30

of, you know, what China's

46:33

government is and

46:35

to build a huge trading

46:38

section of Europe, the

46:42

free nations of, of, of,

46:44

of, of Asia, South

46:47

America, North America,

46:50

and create a huge trade

46:52

zone of those free nations

46:54

is the way you should go. Right. We

46:57

have never objected to the tariffs on China

47:00

because of what they do, but

47:02

tariffs don't work. No, tariffs

47:05

will, tariffs will hurt you. And so

47:07

if you're going to hurt yourself, open

47:09

it up to expanding the future with your

47:12

trading partners that have the same kind

47:14

of government that you have basically in

47:16

the same type of democracy that you

47:18

have. That's what, that's, that's what

47:21

you should be attempting to, to do.

47:23

So, but

47:25

I, like I said, I agreed with what

47:28

he did with China, did not agree. I

47:31

know we're both in the same, have

47:35

the same opinion here. What

47:37

he did with Canada, Mexico, whatever.

47:39

I mean, the whole thing was to get, he said,

47:41

was to get a better free trade deal, but USMCA

47:44

ended up being almost identical to NAFTA. Right.

47:46

There was no difference. I know people disagree

47:48

with us on it. They can't, they can't

47:50

tell us what made it different. They just

47:53

believe, well, Trump said it was different. So

47:55

it was different and it wasn't. It

47:57

wasn't, it was very, very little different. Right. very

48:00

few things that change and end with the things

48:02

that did change that was like squeezing a water

48:04

balloon. All right, you gained over

48:06

here but it went over here. Well, the

48:08

one thing that and he promoted it was

48:10

the fact that with the tariffs

48:13

that he put on that the that auto

48:15

parts, you know,

48:17

would it would force auto parts to be made

48:20

in the United States, Mexico and Canada

48:24

by the tariffs that you know that you know that of

48:27

what they they did and I

48:29

said well if you're forcing that to happen where

48:31

they you know you're saying basically you're

48:34

creating a thing there. Eventually

48:37

they'll move to cheaper countries. Yeah,

48:40

yeah, if you put tariffs on other countries

48:42

and even try to protect this region, it will

48:44

come back and bite you. Yeah,

48:47

right because prices are everything there is no

48:49

escaping it government, you know, and that's

48:51

one of the problems that we have

48:53

though. Most believe

48:56

that they can manipulate the Green New Deal but

49:00

Trump came in and

49:02

part of him thought he could regulate

49:04

through tariffs an

49:06

economy. Will you increase prices? It's going to

49:08

have an effect. Everything

49:10

has an effect on the economy. If a government

49:13

comes in and says, all right, we're going

49:15

to put a 20% tariff on well then your

49:18

cost is going to go up at least 20%. That's

49:22

going to have repercussions. There is no free lunch.

49:26

Whether it's the Fed attempting to manipulate the

49:28

dollar, whether

49:30

it's the Biden administration through tariffs

49:32

or Trump through tariffs, you

49:36

can't save an economy by

49:38

government manipulating it but

49:40

on both sides people believe you can on the

49:42

left. Well, no, we believe you can. Remember

49:45

Bernie Sanders was the one that really agreed with Trump

49:47

on the tariffs. No, I mean he said it on

49:50

a debate stage or I don't know

49:52

if it was a debate stage. A debate stage or an appearance

49:54

or a town hall that he had but the media asked him.

49:58

He said, and I believe that he's going to be a good person. I think I'm

50:01

actually this is verbatim. I

50:04

agree with Mr. Trump on tariffs,

50:07

Bernie Sanders. And the thing is,

50:09

is that you look at that

50:11

and the reason that you and I

50:14

support the pressure on China is because

50:16

of intellectual property rights. If

50:18

we don't get

50:20

that in check permanently,

50:24

and it's going to require every other trade

50:26

partner we have to put the pressure on

50:28

China, if we don't

50:30

get that in check permanently, it will never be

50:32

in check. If we did,

50:34

we said this in a few times during the

50:36

Trump years, that if we

50:39

don't get it done under Donald Trump, it probably isn't

50:41

going to be done. Given the

50:43

makeup of his economic advisors, you

50:45

know, that was, you know, that was

50:48

their mission. They didn't get it done. I don't

50:51

think Biden or the left has any interest

50:53

in getting it done. And

50:55

now with the, you know,

50:57

if you think about the advent of

50:59

AI and everything now that is, you

51:02

know, putting

51:04

is actually going into motion with

51:07

AI. I

51:09

don't know that we will I don't, I don't know

51:11

that any amount of pressure on China can change it.

51:15

I think we may be just in that

51:17

era that that's, you know, it's just gone.

51:21

And there's not because I don't

51:23

know, first of all, even if we could put

51:25

the pressure or we did put the pressure on China, I

51:28

don't know how you I

51:32

don't know how you force them to enforce

51:36

what we're telling them they have to enforce.

51:38

Well, is is this a

51:40

way for the Japanese

51:42

steel industry to blunt a

51:44

Trump presidency? Because

51:48

remember, Trump put tariffs.

51:50

I don't know if I don't know

51:52

if they did. Well, that was my question earlier. I mean,

51:54

how does it change? Did they did they have the quota

51:56

tariffs? I can't remember what the tariffs were on the Japanese

51:58

steel. Well, that's a good question. it was across

52:00

the border or quote a tariff, but they

52:03

put it on there, the Biden administration took

52:05

it off. Right. Yeah. And

52:08

so is this a way to blunt Japan can say, fine

52:10

US steel produce it? Yeah.

52:13

Yeah, we'll just, and we keep the

52:15

facilities going. Look,

52:18

there's been a lot of change over the years

52:20

with the cost of shipping, you know,

52:23

going through the roof. Yeah, that's great. A

52:25

change of, all right, we will

52:27

set up shop in

52:30

the markets and

52:32

countries or regions where

52:35

we have a rise

52:37

right now, a growing number of

52:40

basically customers of

52:42

consumers. While the US rules

52:45

everything in that regard. I

52:47

mean, to the extent, by

52:49

the way, you had Harley Davidson

52:51

start building bikes in India and

52:53

they were saying, look, we're buying it. We're building

52:56

them there to sell them there.

52:58

We're not building them to bring them back to the US,

53:00

you know, but that's the play. The

53:02

play is you manufacture it

53:06

in the market where you're selling it. So

53:09

you have no shipping costs. It could be that

53:11

not much changes in terms of

53:13

the manufacturing and distribution here domestically.

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54:36

I think it

54:38

was just a lot of year ago, it was in

54:40

2022 that the Biden administration lifted

54:43

the steel tariffs on Japan.

54:46

So that's what got me to thinking, hmm, okay,

54:48

they're looking and saying, well, it looks like

54:51

Trump is a slam dunk to win the presidency.

54:53

We don't want him putting tariffs on our

54:56

Japanese steel again. Let's

54:58

buy US steel. Then we have

55:00

access to the market. It's domestically

55:02

made and there's

55:04

no tariffs on that steel and

55:07

that gives us an advantage inside

55:09

the United States with

55:11

a manufacturer that's already doing significant

55:13

business in the United States. Yeah,

55:15

and you also have access to

55:17

the global marketplace with any

55:19

production that you want to set up anywhere

55:22

else if you want to expand that and

55:24

export to the world. Well, and the other

55:26

thing too, I mean, they have steel manufacturing

55:28

in Europe. US Steel. Right.

55:31

So it gives them that if Europe decides

55:33

to do the

55:35

entire tariff thing, it's interesting because at

55:37

one of his campaign stops the other day, I forgot to mention

55:39

this, Trump was talking about how we got to lower places. And

55:42

I'm like, oh, okay, I wonder, I didn't listen

55:44

to the entire speech. I wondered in the same

55:46

speech if he said we're going to lower prices

55:48

by having a 10% across the

55:51

board tariff on every product that comes into

55:53

the United States. But

55:56

I didn't hear that as part of the message. He said

55:58

that a couple of months ago. And I

56:00

don't know if any of his advisors said to him, look, you

56:03

can't talk about putting 10% tariffs on

56:05

every product that comes into the United States. Prices

56:08

are what is affecting people right now. The

56:10

Biden administration doesn't understand that. They can't get

56:12

it through their heads. We can't

56:15

be promoting the fact that we're

56:17

gonna raise prices if you

56:19

become president. Yeah. So

56:22

when he was talking about prices the other day, it

56:24

made me wonder, okay, is he gonna drop the 10%?

56:29

He might, you know, because there may have

56:31

been someone that said, or maybe he just

56:33

realized, yeah, you can't get away with that.

56:35

You're doing damage. And you don't need to

56:37

do that right now with the populace. They're

56:39

already on board with it. You're

57:00

listening to Red Eye Radio, from the UNANO American Studios. It

57:05

sounds like a herby Hancock Christmas. It

57:08

does, yeah. It's a pretty good idea. I

57:11

think it's a good idea. I think it's a good idea.

57:15

I think it's a good idea. I

57:17

think it's a good idea. I think

57:20

it's a good idea. I think

57:22

it's a good idea. It

57:26

does. Yeah. Wow.

57:28

It's interesting. Yeah. All

57:32

right. So we got that

57:34

covered. You already have a

57:36

number of senators lining up against the

57:39

sale. It will be

57:41

interesting to see how that goes. Look,

57:44

it's in the interest of, especially a

57:46

trade partner like Japan, to

57:51

be open to essentially want to open

57:53

it to a greater global

57:55

marketplace. I would

57:57

have concerns there too also about that. about

58:02

further acquisitions of

58:05

a Nippon or something else

58:07

down the road, I

58:10

guess, is the concern. In other

58:12

words, if, all right, so if you let it out

58:14

of the house now, what

58:18

control... The problem with something like

58:20

steel, just like with energy, the

58:22

more that it's controlled from outside

58:25

the US, the greater

58:27

the security risk. And

58:32

that would be my concern

58:34

in that short-term, long-term. It's

58:37

in the interest of Japan to keep

58:39

everything... I don't know what the plans

58:42

are, but it's in the interest of

58:44

the owners to essentially these

58:47

owners, new owners, to

58:50

keep everything going in the US. It

58:53

doesn't mean that there aren't other

58:56

parties interested in that. Imagine,

58:59

well, we saw the impact of Russian

59:02

oil, right? You

59:06

saw with

59:10

shutting down the imports of Russian

59:12

oil, there was this

59:15

compounding effect on three other refineries

59:17

on the West Coast that

59:19

started with the

59:21

shutdown during COVID, and then

59:23

the whole Russia thing happened, and

59:26

the Russian oil was, for

59:28

the most part, going to those

59:30

three refineries. And

59:32

so those... And

59:35

I don't believe any of those three are reopened

59:37

as of yet. And

59:39

the problem is that you

59:42

see that kind of impact. Now, we

59:44

shouldn't be purchasing Russian oil,

59:46

but it still has an impact. We

59:48

shouldn't let Iran sell

59:51

oil on the global marketplace.

59:54

Those are security concerns. That is about

59:57

supply, but you have to manage...

1:00:00

stuff like that with those kind of

1:00:02

sanctions. We shouldn't let Iran's proxies

1:00:05

that they fund attack

1:00:09

shipping in the Red Sea or

1:00:11

oil tankers in the Red Sea. BP

1:00:14

now is not going to ship

1:00:16

through there. They're going all

1:00:19

the way around the Horn of Africa to come

1:00:21

around. I was looking at the route

1:00:24

yesterday. They said it's going to make

1:00:26

it more expensive. I'm like I wonder when that's

1:00:28

going to hit, I'm driving to work thinking that.

1:00:31

I look at the gas station right around the

1:00:33

corner from me, gas up 30 cents in one

1:00:35

day. And

1:00:37

I'm like, oh boy, here we go.

1:00:39

Now, but here's

1:00:41

the question.

1:00:44

Maybe America does care about it now because

1:00:48

of the unreasonably

1:00:50

low polling numbers of

1:00:53

Biden. So

1:00:55

the media is saying this is unreasonable.

1:00:57

The people don't appreciate. But you

1:01:00

think about it. It's pretty slam.

1:01:02

I got to find it. I saw it was on YouTube

1:01:04

yesterday. I got to find the the

1:01:07

the congressman that was going back and forth,

1:01:09

the Republican Congress person yesterday. I

1:01:11

just popped into my head now. And I didn't

1:01:13

even get to see the whole thing. I saw about a minute of

1:01:15

it, but he was going through all the things you

1:01:17

know the Biden administration is doing saying

1:01:19

the Americans don't like this. This is

1:01:21

radical. And he talks specifically about I

1:01:24

think that if you explain it to the American public

1:01:26

and the American public understood it, that you could get

1:01:28

80% that would say, no, we need to be producing.

1:01:30

If we're going to be using oil and natural gas,

1:01:32

we need to be producing it here. Natural

1:01:35

gas we are. But oil, we need to

1:01:37

be producing oil here. You know,

1:01:39

we shouldn't be. There's no reason. I

1:01:41

mean, it wouldn't be as big of

1:01:43

an impact if all

1:01:46

of our oil or 90% of

1:01:49

our oil was produced here. It

1:01:52

wouldn't be that much of an impact of

1:01:56

again, however, gas prices will go up depending

1:01:58

on what happens. in the

1:02:00

Red Sea or whatever, but

1:02:04

if we controlled 90% of

1:02:06

what we produced instead of where we now, 55, 60? Yeah.

1:02:10

Something like that? Yeah. Would

1:02:13

that make a difference? Of course it would make a difference. Right.

1:02:15

If you had that type of supply. Now

1:02:17

the good thing is, by

1:02:19

the way, I do love the debate that goes on with

1:02:23

the gasoline prices. The

1:02:27

Biden administration, even

1:02:30

we played earlier Jim Acosta, but they're coming

1:02:32

down, they're coming down, but gasoline

1:02:34

prices are coming down, they're coming down, and

1:02:37

the Republicans then say, yeah, but

1:02:39

they're not coming down as far as when he

1:02:41

took office. Well,

1:02:43

remember, when Biden took

1:02:45

office, gasoline prices were so

1:02:47

incredibly low during the Trump

1:02:49

administration because all industries stopped.

1:02:51

There was such a huge

1:02:54

supply. If

1:02:56

you look overall, the reason

1:02:58

that you have gasoline prices that for

1:03:00

the most part are lower than they

1:03:02

were a year ago, one

1:03:05

of the reasons is probably a slowing world

1:03:07

economy. But secondly is

1:03:09

the fact that the

1:03:13

US fracking is

1:03:15

getting back to where it was pre-COVID and

1:03:19

the federal government. This is the interesting thing

1:03:22

is the Democrats do

1:03:24

not want what's happening, but

1:03:27

they can't stop it on private and

1:03:30

state land. They haven't been able to stop it.

1:03:32

They've been able to stop it on

1:03:34

federal land, but we probably, if we

1:03:37

would have, if you would

1:03:41

have had, let's say back in 2008, 2009,

1:03:43

the Obama administration come out and say, this

1:03:48

is part of our national security. We need to

1:03:50

do everything we possibly can to produce all

1:03:53

the oil and natural gas. Remember, fracking still

1:03:55

hadn't hit its peak at that point. Remember

1:03:58

when, think about this, when Obama. Think about

1:04:00

this Eric, when Obama became president, people

1:04:02

were still talking peak oil. Yeah,

1:04:05

right. We forget about that. You

1:04:07

and I did. Well, all the way up until, when

1:04:09

did I see the one thing on Discovery? I

1:04:12

think it was 2011, 2012. For

1:04:15

some reason, 2012 stuck in my mind,

1:04:17

where it

1:04:19

was Discovery Channel, a so-called

1:04:21

documentary. And they

1:04:25

went out of their way, the person made

1:04:27

the point, but went out of their way

1:04:29

to make the point on peak oil. And

1:04:35

it was, which

1:04:37

is something that really, when

1:04:40

you look at the reserves, you

1:04:42

know, when the Carioca and Tupi fields

1:04:44

were found off the coast of Brazil,

1:04:46

it was massive. These are huge,

1:04:49

huge fields. And

1:04:53

then when that happened, and there

1:04:55

was a lot of exploration

1:04:57

that was going on in the US, quietly,

1:05:00

because it's the private sector, you

1:05:03

know, they don't really, until they've

1:05:05

got it, they don't really see

1:05:07

anything about it. And there was a company out

1:05:09

in West Texas that was coming up with this

1:05:11

new drilling technique. And they

1:05:13

happened to be buying up a lot

1:05:16

of land that up until

1:05:18

then, you didn't buy

1:05:20

that land for oil production, because

1:05:23

the terrain would

1:05:26

just tear your equipment up. Well, if

1:05:28

you have horizontal

1:05:30

drilling, and

1:05:32

there's oil down there, you find

1:05:34

a way to get it, and then horizontal

1:05:36

drilling and other technologies came about in terms

1:05:38

of production, and that kind of ramped everything

1:05:40

up in terms of what's available to us,

1:05:42

what we can actually get out of the

1:05:44

ground matters, not just what's in the ground.

1:05:47

Well, then the, you know, everything

1:05:50

that's centered around Rifle Colorado with

1:05:52

in situ conversion, which is not

1:05:56

in play right now, because it's not, you

1:05:58

know, being, it isn't a... feasible

1:06:02

situation politically

1:06:04

right now. Bush,

1:06:07

at the end of 2008, at the end of

1:06:09

his term, the second term,

1:06:11

presidency, he put in

1:06:14

executive order and allowed them to move forward

1:06:16

on that in situ conversion,

1:06:18

in the ground conversion of Shell Rock

1:06:20

essentially. And the promise

1:06:23

was already there. They were making the plans

1:06:25

to build those refineries around

1:06:27

that production, because if it's

1:06:29

in the ground, then you've got to put it on the

1:06:31

truck. You're not going to build a

1:06:33

pipeline. You might, maybe one short

1:06:35

pipeline or a few. But essentially,

1:06:38

you need to process it in that region. The

1:06:40

point being is that prices dropped. We were at $147 a barrel

1:06:42

in the summer of 2008, and

1:06:46

they dropped going in for a couple of reasons.

1:06:50

That announcement, but also then as the economy

1:06:52

was clearly slowing down at

1:06:54

the end of 2008, then

1:06:57

you saw that demand drop. And that's kind of where we

1:06:59

are right now. A couple of weeks ago, it was announced

1:07:01

that the gasoline inventories

1:07:05

were, the gasoline stocks were up

1:07:07

over 5%. And it was like,

1:07:09

okay, what's going on with the slut? It's pretty

1:07:11

simple. We slow down

1:07:13

on the driving, but also globally.

1:07:18

There was a thought

1:07:22

that there would be from, in China

1:07:24

and India, that there would be greater

1:07:26

demand, but that demand has slowed down

1:07:28

quite somewhat. There's still in that era

1:07:31

of people getting vehicles for the

1:07:34

first time in

1:07:38

those countries. And we're

1:07:40

not talking, we're talking about the two

1:07:42

largest countries

1:07:45

in terms of population. So

1:07:48

those are the facts of where we are. If

1:07:51

you look at it, everything, this is

1:07:54

why it's so important. We

1:07:58

can control Russia. control

1:08:01

Iran and you

1:08:03

know we have controlled Russia somewhat

1:08:09

but on Iran it

1:08:11

should be a no-brainer

1:08:15

there should be nobody against choking

1:08:18

Iran out of the global

1:08:20

oil marketplace no one this

1:08:23

just out yesterday and this really been the

1:08:25

last six months that they were saying no

1:08:27

US frackers are going to be able to

1:08:30

go through the roof with production US

1:08:32

frackers returned to haunt OPEX pricing

1:08:34

strategy from yesterday from Bloomberg US

1:08:37

crew juggernaut adds equivalent of new

1:08:39

Venezuela to supply US shale is

1:08:41

rearing its head just months after

1:08:44

the sector was all but written

1:08:47

off as a threat to the cartels

1:08:49

sway over worldwide oil markets

1:08:51

drillers from the Permian Basin in

1:08:54

West Texas to the Bakken shale

1:08:56

in North Dakota have ramped up

1:08:58

oil production well beyond what analysts

1:09:00

foresaw pushing output to a record

1:09:02

just as OPEC and its allies

1:09:04

put the brakes on supplies in

1:09:07

a bid to arrest price declines this

1:09:09

time last year US government forecasters were

1:09:12

predicting domestic production would average 12.5 million

1:09:14

barrels a day during the

1:09:17

current quarter in recent days that

1:09:19

estimate was bumped to thirteen point

1:09:21

three million the difference is

1:09:24

equivalent to adding a new Venezuela

1:09:26

to the global supplies

1:09:29

and this is with the

1:09:31

Obama the yeah

1:09:33

you see that thing on on

1:09:36

Twitter yesterday it was it

1:09:38

was Korean John Pierre but it was

1:09:41

basically so you know they AI'd it and

1:09:43

so it was basically Obama who

1:09:45

looked just like Korean John Pierre with

1:09:47

the hair and everything talking like I'm

1:09:49

saying there is no I have

1:09:51

that Barack Obama

1:09:54

has no influence on this

1:09:56

administration whatsoever there is no

1:09:58

evidence whatsoever and it's screen

1:10:00

jump here saying it, but the face

1:10:02

is Obama, the hair is hers, but

1:10:04

the voice is Obama's. It's

1:10:07

pretty funny. But

1:10:09

this is with the Biden administration doing

1:10:11

everything they can on the federal level

1:10:14

to stop just like Obama did. Well

1:10:16

then we're wanting methane in terms of

1:10:19

this would be the byproduct of

1:10:22

natural gas production and

1:10:24

oil production, but the burning off

1:10:26

of methane and the whole thing. This

1:10:29

is going to be outlawed as

1:10:31

a result of this

1:10:33

administration. Now the good news is it's

1:10:36

an administrative move and

1:10:38

that can be turned around by the next

1:10:40

administration if they're going to do it. Like

1:10:43

Obama turned around in March 2009 and put

1:10:46

the brakes on in situ production and

1:10:49

really there hasn't been, there's not going to

1:10:51

be, I don't even know in the industry

1:10:54

if there is an interest in pursuing that

1:10:57

in terms of efficiencies and everything else. But

1:11:01

it's a simple equation. When you look

1:11:03

at the global marketplace and how huge

1:11:05

we are, what

1:11:07

we have in our reserves, in

1:11:09

the ground available to us, Iran

1:11:12

should be a nothing. By the way,

1:11:15

OPEC and all of its member nations,

1:11:18

we should scoff, we should laugh anytime

1:11:21

they say anything. The global marketplace,

1:11:24

remember oil is a

1:11:26

global price. It should

1:11:28

laugh at OPEC when they try

1:11:31

and flex. 86690, Red Eye. We'll

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Thank you. It's

1:12:02

Run Out Radio, he is our currently not

1:12:04

Gary McNamara. You know when

1:12:06

you mentioned before as we were talking about the you

1:12:08

know the last decade and a half of of oil

1:12:11

production worldwide in the United States when you

1:12:14

mentioned Brazil the first thing I thought of,

1:12:16

do you remember when Obama, oh yeah yeah,

1:12:18

when he was doing everything he could to

1:12:20

cut back on on oil production

1:12:22

in the United States said and

1:12:24

we're willing as the United States to do

1:12:26

everything we possibly can to help Brazil or

1:12:28

produce as much oil as possible and you

1:12:30

and I just went, what the hell? He

1:12:33

said to the head of Petrobras,

1:12:36

we can't wait to be your

1:12:38

biggest customer. Yes exactly. And

1:12:42

Petrobras stands for Petro-Brazil,

1:12:44

it's state owned. Now

1:12:47

there were you know private

1:12:49

investors including at one point

1:12:51

George Soros involved in

1:12:54

you know that invested in it but yeah

1:12:56

we want to be your biggest customer. Sure, how

1:12:59

about producing here at home then? This

1:13:10

is Red Eye Radio on

1:13:12

Westwood One. Now

1:13:23

it's Red Eye Radio, Gary

1:13:25

McNamara and Eric Harley. Good

1:13:28

morning, thank you for being here. Thank

1:13:52

you. Merry Christmas everybody. Merry Christmas

1:13:54

everyone. Merry Christmas everyone. Merry Christmas

1:13:56

everyone. Merry Christmas everyone. I

1:14:00

just like that. I like how you added that.

1:14:02

I was thinking that you added the everyone. Yeah,

1:14:04

everyone. I was thinking

1:14:07

the other day because we've been talking about the

1:14:10

movie It's a Wonderful Life. It's great. I

1:14:12

mean seriously. Great movie. Seriously, great

1:14:15

storyline. And

1:14:17

then I thought different actors, right? Al

1:14:21

Pacino in the main role. Hey, Bert. My

1:14:23

lips bleeding. My lips bleeding, Bert. It

1:14:33

could only be Jimmy Stewart. It

1:14:35

could only be Jimmy Stewart. Past,

1:14:38

present, any of the actors. It

1:14:40

could only be Jimmy Stewart because

1:14:45

I often forget in the

1:14:47

first part of that movie,

1:14:50

he's got

1:14:54

a little bit of attitude about him. You know what I

1:14:56

mean? The character. And

1:15:01

it's different than,

1:15:03

of course, after he's kind of going through

1:15:06

the lesson and

1:15:08

then comes back around and goes

1:15:11

through what he's going through. But

1:15:13

it is such, I mean

1:15:15

the emotional range of that is

1:15:20

just awesome. It can only

1:15:23

be Jimmy Stewart. I read

1:15:25

where he starts, remember where he starts crying in the

1:15:27

bar? Yeah. I

1:15:30

was reading the other day that that

1:15:32

actually wasn't planned. That it was

1:15:34

just, it got so emotional because he had just

1:15:36

come out of World War II.

1:15:38

Yeah, yeah. And the memories that he

1:15:40

had because remember, he was

1:15:43

a bombing pilot. Yeah.

1:15:46

You think about what those, I

1:15:49

can't even imagine that. You

1:15:51

went up every single day believing

1:15:53

you weren't coming back. And

1:15:56

then you saw other bombs just shot out

1:15:58

of the sky. You could hear the screams

1:16:01

and everything else. And

1:16:04

when he was filming that, they said that

1:16:06

a lot of his emotion that he had,

1:16:08

he was still majorly affected

1:16:10

by what he saw up there. But

1:16:14

yeah, you're right. Nobody

1:16:16

could have played him there. I

1:16:19

don't think nobody could replace

1:16:22

Donna Reed. No, no,

1:16:24

no. And she just had that face.

1:16:29

She had that face. And it

1:16:31

was on the other day, and I had to watch. Remember

1:16:33

the phone scene? Where

1:16:36

the guy, can't even think of the

1:16:38

other guy, who was working in Buffalo.

1:16:42

And he was sort

1:16:44

of her boyfriend.

1:16:48

And Jimmy Stewart had come over to

1:16:51

the house because he liked her all the

1:16:53

time. And then on the phone, she drops a phone, and

1:16:55

they're looking at each other. And he's like, no, no, I'm

1:16:57

going to go do what I want in life. Nobody's going

1:17:00

to keep me here. And you're like,

1:17:02

dude, you're not going anywhere. And then

1:17:04

they get into this great big kiss.

1:17:06

And it's like, it's over. It's all

1:17:09

done. Right. Yeah,

1:17:14

it was so well done. I mean, it

1:17:16

was so well played

1:17:18

and directed. Because

1:17:22

over the years, and I

1:17:24

think maybe with age, as

1:17:27

you go through more life lessons of, all

1:17:29

right, look, what

1:17:31

is it I'm trying to accomplish, or how is it that

1:17:33

I feel about this? How is it that I view this?

1:17:35

Or shouldn't I have a different

1:17:38

attitude about this, or something like that? And

1:17:40

I think we all go through those things. And

1:17:44

that was that storyline

1:17:46

of, I mean, that

1:17:50

worst feeling you can have as

1:17:53

a person. Just

1:17:56

not wanting to be a part of it all. And

1:17:58

then. coming back

1:18:00

and then you

1:18:02

couldn't appreciate everything more. And

1:18:05

that was the thing running through the street, you

1:18:08

know, where he's just shouting. He's just through

1:18:11

the... Well, that's

1:18:14

blatant. He

1:18:17

was so grateful to be back. And the point

1:18:19

being is that in that moment, that

1:18:22

was confirmation that he was back and

1:18:25

that he had

1:18:27

his life and that he

1:18:29

appreciated that and then the running

1:18:32

through the streets and everything else. And it was

1:18:34

just, it was so well done. Isn't

1:18:36

that the lesson though that everything in life is

1:18:38

perspective? It is. You

1:18:41

know, you look at your life and you think it's bad and then you

1:18:43

just say, oh, I know somebody

1:18:46

who's in the hospital with cancer. Why

1:18:48

in the world am I complaining about my

1:18:50

life at all? I'm healthy.

1:18:53

I'm employed. You know, is

1:18:55

life 100% of what I want it to be? Nothing

1:18:59

is. No, no. And

1:19:02

even in your times of when you say, I don't know how I'm

1:19:04

going to get out of it, when you

1:19:06

look back at those times, when you get older,

1:19:08

you look back and go, geez, what an

1:19:10

idiot I was. Yeah. I had

1:19:13

a great life and I'm complaining about that or thinking

1:19:15

about that. It's like you were an idiot back. You

1:19:17

were an idiot in your youth. And

1:19:19

to go through anything

1:19:22

and then not fully appreciate

1:19:24

certain things. We

1:19:27

all go through that where our

1:19:30

mind is fogged with other

1:19:32

things and life basically. And

1:19:36

then all of a sudden you look back and maybe

1:19:38

a year later, a few years later,

1:19:40

whatever, you look back and go, man,

1:19:44

things were going great at my job

1:19:46

or things were, that's situation. That

1:19:49

situation wasn't that bad

1:19:51

or whatever it might be.

1:19:53

Or I didn't take the time to appreciate

1:19:56

this other thing that was also going on

1:19:58

during that time. It's,

1:20:01

we're all guilty

1:20:03

and or capable of being in

1:20:05

those places. It's just the way the mind works. You

1:20:08

know, I always

1:20:11

think this time of the

1:20:13

year always brings back, you look

1:20:15

back at your past and what you

1:20:17

were doing, what were Christmases of

1:20:19

the past. And some of the best memories

1:20:22

I have, I have such a great

1:20:25

memory. There's two memories of jobs

1:20:27

that I had. One was when I

1:20:29

was a, you know, basically a porter

1:20:32

janitor at

1:20:34

a, my first job as

1:20:36

a senior in high school when I got it. And

1:20:39

my first real job, I mean, I did paper routes

1:20:41

and stuff like that. Yeah. Yeah.

1:20:44

But I was a, you know, a porter janitor and then

1:20:47

assistant baker at times. Right. But

1:20:50

I can remember, you know, working

1:20:52

on, because they'd always

1:20:54

be open, Thanksgiving

1:20:57

and even Christmas morning till

1:21:00

like noon. And I'd be

1:21:02

in there at 4 a.m. Yeah. You

1:21:04

know, because you had, because they were open

1:21:06

at six and that that's back then you

1:21:09

didn't make, you didn't make the donuts at

1:21:11

a, at another, you know, a manufacturing plant.

1:21:13

And then have them delivered. Yeah. Yeah. You

1:21:16

made them there. Right. And

1:21:18

if you're ever, Dunkin Donuts actually had the window where you could watch the

1:21:20

baker. Right. And it was like, Oh, wow,

1:21:22

this is great. People are watching me. It's like, yeah, like, wow,

1:21:24

I'm like a celebrity. But

1:21:27

if you're making donuts in the morning, you

1:21:29

are the most important person right there in

1:21:31

that moment. Oh, I'm telling you,

1:21:33

no cop would ever bust me in that

1:21:35

town. I

1:21:40

was at, I was at a donut place. This

1:21:42

is going back about six months ago when I

1:21:45

was in there were a couple of cops. They

1:21:47

said, Oh, cops, donuts. Are we

1:21:49

in trouble? They go, no, we love donuts. It was

1:21:51

hilarious. Right here at this place

1:21:53

right here in the corner. One morning they

1:21:55

opened right as we're getting out of here. And

1:21:58

I usually, well, a couple of times.

1:22:00

along the way. I'm

1:22:02

usually buying for my daughter but I

1:22:05

decided I was gonna get a couple donuts for myself

1:22:07

and my daughter. She

1:22:09

would have loved them by the way. They

1:22:12

didn't make it home. But I pull

1:22:15

up and then one of the squad cars is

1:22:17

there and I'm going in, well I

1:22:20

hope everything is okay. Oh it's a cop, never

1:22:22

mind, it's a donut place. Well

1:22:25

we were talking about the weather or

1:22:27

whatever and he was a great officer. I

1:22:29

just remember those days

1:22:32

as being just

1:22:36

one, I remember Thanksgiving would be open till like

1:22:38

noon and people would come in and back

1:22:40

then the Dunkin Donuts had their counter and ash

1:22:44

rays. People would be smoking. Every

1:22:47

day I wake up going, please don't let

1:22:49

that second hand smoke from that long ago

1:22:51

get to me because it was pretty heavy

1:22:53

and it was pretty thick. But you'd be

1:22:55

out there bringing the

1:22:57

donuts, bringing the donut rack in

1:23:00

and helping the assistant. On

1:23:02

those days it wasn't a toilet

1:23:07

cleaning day or a stockroom

1:23:09

cleaning day. It was basically preparing everything

1:23:11

for the baker and it was just

1:23:13

to me that it was a basic

1:23:18

job that a high school kid would

1:23:20

have but you just felt, I

1:23:23

didn't, I'll never forget when they told me we

1:23:25

need you to work Thanksgiving and Christmas. Yeah.

1:23:27

There was no disappointment. Yeah. It was like,

1:23:29

oh right. I mean it was like wow.

1:23:32

And I just remember and then as it

1:23:34

was winding down around noon and then the

1:23:36

last person walked out and it was quiet

1:23:38

and you're cleaning up and you're getting ready

1:23:40

to leave by like quarter after 12 or

1:23:43

whatever. I just always remember those moments of

1:23:45

being so special and the same thing when I was a

1:23:48

machinist when I worked actually at when

1:23:50

I was a United Steel worker but was

1:23:52

a machinist and and worked for them. Huge

1:23:54

bill. I mean there was probably this building,

1:23:58

a number of buildings that were all at attached to each

1:24:00

other, huge cranes and everything else, probably

1:24:03

20 different buildings. Yeah. That,

1:24:05

I mean, you could walk, it might take you, oh, I

1:24:08

don't know, a half hour to walk across, you

1:24:10

know, all the different buildings, but it was Christmas

1:24:12

Eve and everybody had left. I

1:24:14

was one of the last people there, I remember checking

1:24:16

out and then going into the locker room

1:24:19

to get, you know, whatever, my jacket, whatever, in

1:24:22

my locker and then leaving, the snow was falling.

1:24:24

And those are always just such special memories.

1:24:27

You know, it's not, you

1:24:30

know, and I have, I've told the radio station memory that I

1:24:32

have where I had to work all Christmas day and then I

1:24:34

left when I worked in Marshall, Texas,

1:24:36

back in 80, this would have been 80,

1:24:39

the year that it snowed, so it was either 80, winter of 84, winter

1:24:42

of 85. I'm not sure which

1:24:44

one it was. That probably was

1:24:46

the winter of 85. Five,

1:24:49

okay, yeah. 80,

1:24:53

84 into 85, so that would have made, that would have, in

1:24:56

December, it would have been

1:24:58

December of 84 because I know in a town

1:25:00

not too far from there, we also

1:25:02

had, I mean, the weather was crazy.

1:25:05

And I worked from six in the morning until

1:25:07

eight at night. I was there the entire day

1:25:09

as a DJ because everybody else was married

1:25:11

and I just said, no,

1:25:13

I was actually the boss and I could have chosen not

1:25:15

to do so and I went, no, I'm going to do

1:25:18

it. Right. And people actually

1:25:20

brought me food and the calls,

1:25:22

you know, Merry Christmas, you're playing

1:25:24

them all day long and it

1:25:27

was just, and then people realized you're at

1:25:29

the station alone. It's a small, you know,

1:25:31

it's a town of 25,000, but still that

1:25:34

was viewed as small and you'd never do

1:25:36

it today. People come and leave me

1:25:38

food. I don't think so. Eric, you eat

1:25:40

it first. You've tested it out. Exactly. Give

1:25:43

it to Alan. Right. Yeah, we

1:25:45

don't do that in talk radio. We don't do that. We

1:25:47

don't accept food. And those are some

1:25:49

of them. And let's put it

1:25:51

in all of those instances, I was dirt

1:25:53

poor. Oh yeah. Especially when

1:25:55

I was a person radio, I had

1:25:57

no money. Actually the listeners.

1:26:00

bringing me food was

1:26:02

my meal for Christmas. Those

1:26:06

are just some of the, you know, when

1:26:08

I think, you know, because we're talking about it's a wonderful life

1:26:10

and I think those are the things

1:26:13

I look back at and those are such

1:26:15

wonderful times. The family times are too, but

1:26:17

I'm talking about when you start to get

1:26:19

out on your own and things like that

1:26:21

and things that you wouldn't think. You know,

1:26:23

being around the beautiful Christmas tree and family

1:26:25

there and everything else in the Christmas carols

1:26:27

plane, that's an obvious, yeah, I'm going to

1:26:29

remember that. It's amazing the things that I

1:26:32

cherish in my life that have

1:26:34

to do with just an experience where

1:26:36

a lot of people might say, I don't want

1:26:38

to have to work Christmas or Thanksgiving morning or

1:26:40

what I got to work all Christmas day. And

1:26:43

I remember when I first said it, I go, I got to

1:26:45

do this. Everybody else is married. I got to do this. And

1:26:48

so I, and it's, and when I did it,

1:26:50

it was like, it was great. Yeah, it was

1:26:52

great. Yeah. You know, so, you know, and that's,

1:26:55

you know, it's, I remember the times that our

1:26:57

first house, it was tiny and the

1:26:59

kids were small. We had this little

1:27:01

gas powered heater in

1:27:04

the living room. And that was my

1:27:07

wife and I called it our fireplace. And

1:27:11

you know, like you said, you're

1:27:13

not making much. My wife and I were both working,

1:27:17

but man, we

1:27:19

didn't want for anything. You

1:27:22

had dreams, aspirations,

1:27:25

that kind of thing. You know, but we didn't

1:27:27

sit around going, well, it should be, it was like,

1:27:30

okay, if we want this, then we'll

1:27:32

have to do this. We'll

1:27:34

have to move on and, you know, or whatever. But

1:27:37

it wasn't that, you know, just, it's,

1:27:43

I think as

1:27:45

you go through life and you go and

1:27:48

you kind of maneuver situations and, and,

1:27:50

you know, this is why right now it's so

1:27:52

concerning for me as I get older. And

1:27:54

I know people are resilient, but

1:27:57

with inflation, things that are hitting, that are

1:28:00

a choice that is made

1:28:02

by the government, which the government is the choice

1:28:04

of the people, is

1:28:06

especially frustrating because

1:28:09

it puts people in a power. And

1:28:11

when that economist said it last

1:28:13

week on Fox Business, and

1:28:15

he said, you're never going to regain

1:28:18

that same purchasing power that you

1:28:20

had, generally speaking, as

1:28:22

a public. And we won't. Those

1:28:25

prices aren't going to come

1:28:27

down. The rate of

1:28:29

inflation may come down, but inflation

1:28:31

is constant. And so it's adding,

1:28:33

it's on top of, it's compounding.

1:28:36

And it's a choice. It was a

1:28:39

very poor decision. And

1:28:43

there has to be

1:28:45

different choices to change this.

1:28:49

We have to make different choices. We have to

1:28:54

choose as a nation

1:28:57

not to allow that, not to

1:29:00

give them that kind of power, because

1:29:03

it isn't capitalism

1:29:05

that is making you lonely

1:29:08

if you're lonely. I don't want

1:29:10

anybody to be lonely, but if you're sad, whatever,

1:29:14

it's not capitalism. Capitalism

1:29:16

is the original crowd funder.

1:29:20

That's what capitalism is. And

1:29:23

we should be doing that as a

1:29:25

nation to empower everybody and give them

1:29:28

their own choices as families,

1:29:31

as individuals. So

1:29:33

this time of year or any time of year or any time

1:29:36

during their life, those choices

1:29:38

are theirs because they

1:29:40

have greater buying power. That greater

1:29:43

buying power is that power

1:29:45

that allows you to make

1:29:47

your choices and gives

1:29:49

you that security for yourself and

1:29:52

for your family. My

1:29:54

expectations were always just to take advantage of the

1:29:58

opportunities that I had. that freedom gives me.

1:30:01

Yes. That's what I wanted. I didn't care

1:30:03

how hard I got to work to get there.

1:30:05

That's why when I got my first $13 check for

1:30:07

cleaning toilets, I was unreasonably

1:30:10

happy. Yeah. To

1:30:12

go back. You know, it's the old

1:30:14

saying, well, money can't buy everything, can't buy

1:30:16

happiness, but you still need it. And

1:30:19

it does provide that security. It

1:30:22

does. And it also gives you a sense of worth and

1:30:24

worthiness. Look, you don't have to be a millionaire. No.

1:30:29

But having that security and

1:30:31

that capitalism being preserved, generally

1:30:34

speaking, should be the

1:30:36

direction we're heading back to, and I hope it is.

1:30:38

86690, Red Eye. Coming

1:30:41

up more with Gary McNamara and

1:30:43

Eric Harley, it's Red Eye

1:30:45

Radio. Oh. It's

1:30:50

Red Eye Radio. He's

1:30:54

Eric Harley, and I'm Gary

1:30:56

McNamara. You know, the one

1:30:58

thing that encompasses it, when

1:31:00

you look at the character traits that

1:31:02

people have, you know, and then always appropriate to talk about

1:31:04

it this time of the year, we're talking about it's a

1:31:06

wonderful life. Yeah, sure. And as we started

1:31:08

this year, we started this year, we started this year, we

1:31:10

started this year, and we started this year, and we started

1:31:12

this year, and we started this year, and we started this

1:31:14

year, and we started this year, as we started this conversation

1:31:17

on, and about appreciating

1:31:19

what you have, and

1:31:21

having a perspective of where

1:31:23

you are, where

1:31:26

you live, the opportunities you have, the freedoms

1:31:28

you have, and being grateful

1:31:30

for that. And we talked about the

1:31:32

study that the other day that talked about

1:31:35

loneliness, and we went, it's pure BS. And

1:31:38

a lot of the analysis of it's pure

1:31:40

BS also, I'm like, define loneliness to begin

1:31:42

with, but I'll

1:31:44

tell you one thing, you look at it, I'm

1:31:47

grateful for everything, I've always been grateful for

1:31:50

everything I've had, I've been grateful for life,

1:31:52

and health, and freedom, and everything

1:31:54

else. You know,

1:31:56

this is, it's the culture I came from, you

1:31:58

work for. think that's a

1:32:00

completely different mindset from people who

1:32:03

feel entitled and that they're victims.

1:32:06

You talk about loneliness, they talked about how

1:32:08

you know in capitalist

1:32:10

societies people are actually less

1:32:13

lonely, they're more happy. Right. John Stossel

1:32:15

was going through the number of studies

1:32:17

on that we played that on

1:32:20

yesterday's show and I can see

1:32:22

why because if you are

1:32:25

appreciative, if

1:32:27

you're grateful for your life, your health

1:32:30

and freedom and opportunity, everything else

1:32:32

is hard work. You're going to

1:32:34

be a more optimistic person if you feel that

1:32:37

you're a victim. Yeah.

1:32:40

You can't be happy because somebody else

1:32:42

is in control of your

1:32:44

happiness and your life. Even when things

1:32:46

are going great for you, you can't

1:32:48

be happy. Walking

1:33:14

in a winter wonderland. Gary

1:33:17

and Eric on Red Eye Radio. Well,

1:33:24

maybe not for Christmas for a significant portion

1:33:26

of the country. There

1:33:29

may not be snow. I'm

1:33:32

going to be doing some planting. I

1:33:36

was seriously walking out tonight

1:33:40

and I was thinking, I

1:33:42

guess I still need to do lawn maintenance.

1:33:46

Yeah, so do I. I got to cut my lawn again. Yeah. The

1:33:48

crab grass is starting to grow. Yeah. So

1:33:51

I don't have any, I got

1:33:53

leaves to clean up and my

1:33:56

grass is kind of stalled, but

1:33:59

there's a lot of green. still left in my

1:34:01

grasp and I'm like, well,

1:34:03

I get, you know, I

1:34:08

guess we're not going to have a winner. I don't

1:34:10

know. Or don't have it. Yeah, I know. As

1:34:13

soon as I do. I freeze Pachelitz. No.

1:34:15

The sequel. Got

1:34:18

to get past Valentine's Day where there's nothing

1:34:20

in the long range forecast. Then

1:34:22

I'll start buying into it. You know, I read this

1:34:24

article yesterday.

1:34:26

It's an op-ed piece in the Wall Street Journal. I

1:34:29

thought to myself, wow, this

1:34:31

reminds me of something I said last week when I said,

1:34:34

and please take it in the

1:34:36

proper context. Very

1:34:39

important you say that these days. But

1:34:42

when Harvard, you

1:34:44

know, when the president didn't resign and

1:34:46

the board didn't get rid of her and

1:34:48

I went, I'm happy. Yeah.

1:34:51

Because the last thing I want is them to get

1:34:53

rid of the president. And then

1:34:55

it's like problem solved when we know the problem's

1:34:57

not solved. This

1:34:59

keeps the debate going. And

1:35:01

this article reminds me of that. That

1:35:04

when you have something, you know, we look in,

1:35:07

for example, the summer of 2020 and everything

1:35:09

that happened there, you know, the lie

1:35:11

that was told about police. The police were systemically,

1:35:14

you know, racist. You see that completely

1:35:16

turned around now. You don't see

1:35:18

businesses getting involved in Black Lives Matter anymore.

1:35:20

It's funny because I did see

1:35:24

part of

1:35:27

the highlights

1:35:30

of the bills and the cowboys the

1:35:32

other day. And as the bills are

1:35:34

getting ready to score a touchdown at the end of the, you

1:35:37

know, and it ends on, I'm like, what does that

1:35:39

say there? It says, end racism. So

1:35:41

has the NFL now decided that

1:35:43

the identity politics of the Democrats

1:35:46

is completely wrong and all the

1:35:48

anti-Semitism and racism that we see

1:35:50

today from the left is wrong

1:35:52

and that's what they're promoting, I

1:35:54

hope? Or

1:35:57

is it one of these ambiguous?

1:36:01

The NFL is against bad things

1:36:03

and we're only going to support what

1:36:06

our viewers support. No, I know it's

1:36:08

still from 2020. That's what

1:36:10

it's still from. But this was in

1:36:12

there. Woke students will outgrow it. Intersectionality

1:36:15

is thrived on campus, but it

1:36:17

will not survive now that it's

1:36:19

being exposed to sunlight. You might

1:36:21

have been shocked to see American

1:36:23

college students demonstrate in support of

1:36:25

Hamas, but we should be careful

1:36:27

not to overreact and

1:36:29

expect the U.S. to degenerate into such

1:36:32

hatred. The support for Hamas's

1:36:34

goal of destroying Israel did

1:36:36

not surprise anyone who has

1:36:38

followed the comment sections

1:36:41

of student newspapers where readers

1:36:43

have advocated such horrific plans

1:36:45

for years. What

1:36:47

is news is that these ideas

1:36:50

have emerged into public attention.

1:36:53

That's a great point. Even

1:36:56

support for Hamas's Islamic

1:36:59

supremacist ideology did not

1:37:01

surprise anyone reading student

1:37:03

newspapers. The most significant

1:37:05

change in students' moral

1:37:08

philosophy in recent years has

1:37:10

been the popularity of an

1:37:12

identity-based ideology known as

1:37:15

intersectionality. That demands

1:37:17

special privileges for all groups

1:37:20

deemed oppressed. Intersectionality

1:37:23

creates a pecking order with

1:37:26

blacks, Muslims, and

1:37:28

LGBTs on the top and

1:37:31

whites, East Asians, and Jews

1:37:33

on the bottom. The

1:37:37

result is a zany

1:37:39

coalition in which

1:37:41

gay-hating Islamic supremacists and

1:37:44

gay intersectionality devotees go

1:37:46

to the same demonstrations

1:37:49

and groups emerge that

1:37:51

sound like parodies such

1:37:53

as queers for Palestine.

1:37:59

Nutty ideas. persist longer than

1:38:01

they used to because ideas

1:38:03

can dwell in the

1:38:06

safe place of like-minded groups

1:38:08

on the internet. But

1:38:10

to have an effect on real life, ideas

1:38:13

need to emerge from the

1:38:15

shadows and they may not survive. As

1:38:19

has been observed, sunlight is said to

1:38:21

be the best of disinfectants. White

1:38:24

Supremas found that out

1:38:26

in 2017 when

1:38:29

they emerged into

1:38:31

the sunlight in Charlottesville. If

1:38:34

they expected support on

1:38:37

the right, they were disappointed. Although

1:38:41

Donald Trump's critics accused him of

1:38:43

not denouncing the Supremas forcefully enough,

1:38:45

in fact, Mr. Trump declared

1:38:48

from the beginning that they should

1:38:50

be condemned totally. It's

1:38:53

good to have honest

1:38:58

writers. The

1:39:01

same is happening to the identity-based

1:39:03

demonstrators who emerged into the sunlight

1:39:06

after the October 7th massacre. If

1:39:08

they expect support from the leaders on

1:39:10

the left, they were disappointed. President

1:39:13

Biden backed defeating Hamas. Alright,

1:39:16

you're going a little bit too far. He's playing

1:39:18

both sides there. And so did

1:39:21

Democratic Senator John Federman in a

1:39:23

letter last week denouncing Israel for the way it is

1:39:26

conducting its Gaza campaign. Even Bernie

1:39:28

Sanders acknowledged that the Jewish state

1:39:30

has the right to go to

1:39:32

war against Hamas. The

1:39:34

speed of change on these issues

1:39:37

is dizzying university presidents were unable

1:39:39

to defend applying different

1:39:41

standards to Jews and other

1:39:44

minorities. The sudden change is

1:39:46

reminiscent of evolutionary biology in

1:39:50

which the status prevails until

1:39:52

a stress triggers rapid change,

1:39:55

a pattern called punctuated

1:39:57

equilibrium in the ecosystem

1:39:59

of ISIS. ideas, sunlight

1:40:02

is such a

1:40:05

stress. And then

1:40:07

continue to say, don't expect that

1:40:09

the identity-based views now emerging into

1:40:11

sunlight will flourish. Such

1:40:13

approaches have not fared well

1:40:16

in United States history. We

1:40:18

defeated white supremacy and

1:40:20

enshrined identity-blind principles of equality

1:40:22

in the 14th Amendment and

1:40:24

the Civil Rights Act of

1:40:26

1964. Many

1:40:29

people assume that the ideology of the

1:40:31

young is a predictor of

1:40:33

the future. But students grow

1:40:35

up. They start out as

1:40:38

pacifists until they realize other people want

1:40:40

to kill them. They

1:40:42

start out as socialists until

1:40:44

they realize that socialism brings

1:40:46

economic destruction. In the

1:40:49

real world, they learn through

1:40:51

experience and exposure to other

1:40:53

viewpoints that many policies that

1:40:55

sound nice lead to terrible

1:40:57

consequences. Yeah. Sometimes.

1:41:02

Well, because it's always presented

1:41:08

by the left as under

1:41:11

the guise of caring, under

1:41:14

the guise of something

1:41:17

good. And

1:41:19

then you realize what they're trying

1:41:21

to achieve. Remember,

1:41:27

remember the word acceptance. There

1:41:31

should be greater acceptance. Acceptance

1:41:36

grew into, well,

1:41:38

no, you need to now allow

1:41:41

and then allow had to be

1:41:43

well known. Now you need to

1:41:46

support us. Now you

1:41:48

need to march in our parade. Now

1:41:51

silence is violence. And

1:41:53

that's the evolution of it all. I

1:41:57

don't care how you live your life. I

1:42:00

don't want to change. I'm not going to personally

1:42:04

change the definition of words and Your

1:42:08

life is yours, but mine

1:42:11

is also mine and the

1:42:13

left has turned into this angry

1:42:15

mob And

1:42:19

it's not everyone on the left in fact It

1:42:22

is not even close to the majority of the

1:42:24

rank and file on the left yet.

1:42:27

It's still Allowed.

1:42:30

It's still allowed to happen and until

1:42:32

that is shut down. I don't know

1:42:34

how the left moves forward You

1:42:37

know, they're still winning elections. The

1:42:39

Democrats are still winning elections I

1:42:42

I would look at and you know again take

1:42:45

the the the Politics out of

1:42:47

it and the personalities out of it if

1:42:49

you look for example in the summer of 2020 The

1:42:52

entire thing we knew it was going to fall apart.

1:42:54

Mm-hmm and we called it and we were one of

1:42:56

the few but all

1:42:58

of a sudden it was Think

1:43:00

about how quick it happened police

1:43:02

departments are systemically racist to hunt

1:43:04

down and kill blacks yeah, and

1:43:06

that is across the nation and

1:43:09

it applies to every single police

1:43:11

department in the nation and Black

1:43:15

officers are not black anymore they've

1:43:18

given up their blackness because they

1:43:21

be have become police officers and

1:43:23

now they're blue not black whatever

1:43:25

the hell that Right and

1:43:27

you and I remember the two white

1:43:29

women that were screaming at the black

1:43:32

cop telling him that he wasn't black

1:43:34

And we went stuff like that doesn't

1:43:36

last and when you tell a

1:43:38

lie as they did because we know

1:43:40

it was a lie How do we know it

1:43:42

was a lie? The polling showed that every demographic

1:43:45

was happy with the police department that locally served

1:43:47

them Would they what

1:43:49

they were against when it came to

1:43:51

police was the abstract? Well, I

1:43:53

like my police department, but those over there

1:43:55

which has to be all the rest are

1:43:57

evil, right? Well, that's not gonna last too

1:43:59

long And in order

1:44:01

to push that ideology that was

1:44:03

done through intimidation. Yep. If you

1:44:06

didn't agree with it You

1:44:08

were a racist if you didn't agree

1:44:11

with their theory and if you

1:44:13

didn't support black lives matter the

1:44:16

lives of black lives matter well, then

1:44:18

you were a racist and But

1:44:21

it wasn't pushed you you did not

1:44:24

that wasn't an ideology that was

1:44:27

trying to convince people That

1:44:29

they were right It

1:44:32

was demanding through intimidation Yeah

1:44:36

that you agree with them in a free

1:44:38

society that doesn't work now What did we

1:44:40

find out the people that

1:44:43

were lying about the police black

1:44:45

lives matter? We found out

1:44:47

what so many of them were

1:44:49

in it for their own monetary benefit It had nothing

1:44:51

to do with truth or

1:44:53

justice or ending racism because

1:44:57

Initially they lied in order

1:45:00

to get the public to

1:45:02

respond to them And

1:45:05

and then it was the the

1:45:07

blue wall of intimidation Like

1:45:10

I've never seen before Then

1:45:12

you look again. We'll take another example you

1:45:14

look at the entire Radical

1:45:18

transgender movement the same thing.

1:45:21

There was never a discussion on it No

1:45:24

discussion wasn't allowed Discussion

1:45:27

was violence if you asked

1:45:29

a question saying woman you're saying which

1:45:32

is a logical which is the first thing

1:45:35

So you're saying because you say so you're a

1:45:37

biological woman how? Well,

1:45:42

we're not saying that we're saying gender

1:45:45

and we're saying gender and and sex

1:45:47

are different I'm not so

1:45:49

used to say but now that you're

1:45:51

saying that men should be compete against

1:45:53

women You're making the argument that men

1:45:55

can be women. Otherwise men shouldn't be

1:45:57

competing against women. Well, you know you asking

1:46:00

that question makes you transphobic.

1:46:03

Yeah. There was no discussion. Any

1:46:06

discussion meant you were

1:46:08

a bigot. Right. There

1:46:10

was never any discussion on it. And

1:46:12

so what has all of this done? And

1:46:15

we had said this before, we said, look, because

1:46:17

you and I were

1:46:19

going after the radical transgender movement over a decade

1:46:21

ago. Oh yeah. And we were saying, we're the

1:46:24

women. And then you

1:46:26

saw all the feminists just crumble. Right.

1:46:28

Crumble. Because the man was telling

1:46:30

them what to do. The liberal

1:46:33

feminists crumbled. I'm

1:46:35

a man, I'll define what a woman is.

1:46:37

Oh yes, please do it, do it, do

1:46:39

it. We are women liberal feminists. We're going

1:46:41

to crumble under that. And

1:46:44

pretend that we're still feminists. Yeah.

1:46:46

Nobody bought that. And

1:46:48

but everything, when you see it now,

1:46:51

everything is being debated each and every

1:46:53

day. Everything

1:46:55

is being debated. All

1:46:57

these radical ideas and

1:47:00

the side

1:47:02

that has lied,

1:47:04

the bigoted side, the

1:47:08

racist side, we

1:47:10

are seeing who those

1:47:13

people are. And as

1:47:15

you said, and we've been saying since, you

1:47:18

know, as it applies to Israel, aside

1:47:22

from Hamas, the radical protesters,

1:47:25

this radicalism, society

1:47:28

will only tolerate it for so long. And

1:47:34

the greater the voice gets or the more

1:47:36

radical it becomes in its position,

1:47:42

the tighter the clock is for

1:47:44

the acceptance of that kind

1:47:46

of behavior. 86690, Red Eye. Wind

1:47:51

open for your calls. 86690, Red Eye

1:47:53

on Red Eye Radio. It's

1:48:15

from everybody owned. He's our Carly non-Gary

1:48:17

McNamara. It's

1:48:27

like it's somehow wrong to

1:48:29

interrupt the Christmas music. Kind

1:48:31

of is, right? Yeah. Oh

1:48:34

no, I can't do that. Yeah. I can't

1:48:36

interrupt the Christmas music. Would you

1:48:38

guys shut up with all your

1:48:40

talking on your talk show? We

1:48:43

actually got that one time. What's

1:48:45

with all the talking? We got a social

1:48:48

media message. Hey, what's

1:48:50

up with all the talking? Where's the music? Some

1:48:55

days, we're with you. This

1:49:17

is Red Eye Radio on

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1:49:29

it's with my radio, Gary

1:49:31

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1:49:33

everything we'll all attention to social

1:49:35

issues. And news of the day,

1:49:38

whether you're up late or you're just

1:49:40

starting your day, welcome to the show.

1:49:43

From the Uniden America

1:49:45

Studios, this is

1:49:47

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1:49:50

he is Eric Hurley and I'm Gary

1:49:52

McNamara. Good morning. How's

1:49:56

everybody today? Welcome

1:49:58

to Tuesday. 19th of

1:50:01

December. Getting

1:50:03

down to the wire now, folks. Yeah. Oh,

1:50:07

oh, oh. Santa

1:50:09

not being too good to Biden, just

1:50:12

reading here, just as Democrats

1:50:14

panic over 2024, Washington Post

1:50:16

dredges up Biden brothers ties

1:50:19

to corrupt Mississippi lawyer and associates.

1:50:22

I'm just going to read the first part of it.

1:50:26

All right. All right. This eye

1:50:28

popping 4,000 word Washington

1:50:31

Post report on

1:50:33

Biden corruption ties is to

1:50:36

my mind more indication that a

1:50:38

serious move is underway within

1:50:40

the top ranks of the Democratic

1:50:42

party establishment to nudge president

1:50:45

Joe Biden into bowing out of the

1:50:47

2024 presidential race. Andrew

1:50:50

McCarthy, national national review.

1:50:55

And goes through everything that's happened the second

1:50:57

hundred Biden indictment. Right. Saying,

1:51:00

yeah, you know, and talking about, well, even

1:51:02

though it doesn't focus on the president,

1:51:05

the dots connect him as

1:51:07

you and I both said, it's, you

1:51:10

know, I mean, it's again, I

1:51:12

don't know. What

1:51:15

took the post so long, I guess is my question. Well,

1:51:18

they may want them out. Well,

1:51:20

that's what he said that that's why they're

1:51:22

doing it now. What's interesting is, is that

1:51:25

we've seen this ebb

1:51:27

and flow of this kind of, you know, approach.

1:51:31

Well, you know, the president is getting

1:51:34

older. I'm sorry. You

1:51:36

just now became aware

1:51:39

of that. And

1:51:42

it kind of seemed to go quiet right

1:51:46

after. Governor

1:51:49

Newsom got trounced by Governor

1:51:52

DeSantis. Oh,

1:51:55

no, we don't have anybody to step in.

1:51:57

Well, I saw the other day. I

1:52:00

was yesterday, the day before, I can't remember exactly when

1:52:02

I saw it. When I saw that

1:52:04

headline, Biden's polling

1:52:06

now beneath Harris. That's

1:52:11

how bad it is. When I, Oh, I found

1:52:13

it here. We didn't

1:52:15

think it could get that bad. Where is it

1:52:17

here? Okay. Yeah. Even

1:52:20

Kamala Harris is now viewed

1:52:22

more favorably than Joe Biden

1:52:25

as Democrats panic over

1:52:27

2024 polls. Yeah. And

1:52:30

so they, they, they, so this, that's

1:52:32

in another article that

1:52:34

was written by, hang on here. I

1:52:36

got so much paperwork in front of me here, New York

1:52:38

post Americans

1:52:41

may have found something they like less

1:52:45

than a hypothetical Kamala

1:52:47

Harris presidency. Former years

1:52:49

of Joe Biden, new poll up Monday

1:52:52

shows the beef's favorability

1:52:54

rating, inching above the

1:52:57

commander in chief for the first

1:52:59

time. Oh, that's going to blow

1:53:01

him. He's going to blow over that one. Well,

1:53:03

you know, we, um, last,

1:53:07

let's see here over

1:53:09

the last couple of weeks, the

1:53:12

civics polling has been, uh,

1:53:14

as high as

1:53:16

negative 21. Yeah.

1:53:20

And right now it's at a negative

1:53:22

19. Uh,

1:53:25

it's a running daily poll civics

1:53:28

and, uh, on job approval,

1:53:31

uh, for Biden. And it's, you

1:53:34

know, obviously not good and

1:53:36

they're a libs, a liberal upholstered. And

1:53:40

it's funny, they kind of fell asleep for what, maybe

1:53:42

a year. Yeah. I mean, the

1:53:44

numbers just didn't move. It was,

1:53:47

he was underwater, but it was like 52 39 for the longest time.

1:53:51

Yeah. It was. Yeah.

1:53:53

So, um, you look at

1:53:56

the Monmouth poll Biden polling at 34 Harris at. 35

1:54:00

and goes, Andrew McCarthy goes into

1:54:03

his article. He goes, we, he

1:54:05

said, uh, however much the prosecutor labored

1:54:07

to keep the president's name out of

1:54:09

it, it cannot obscure that Hunter and

1:54:11

the other Biden's made millions by trading

1:54:13

on now president's political influence. Yeah. We've

1:54:15

seen, uh, remarks by

1:54:17

the Obama whisperer, David Axelrod,