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a Wednesday everybody. Gary,

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how are you? Doing good.

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Alright. I

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mean I woke up to the news

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about Colorado when I went to

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sleep. Yeah. It wasn't out yet.

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Yeah. And so I

0:54

haven't been able to read and

0:56

analyze it completely. I mean I

0:58

understand the basic concepts of what's

1:02

going on here. Yeah. Right. Unless

1:05

there's something that is different

1:10

from what I'm thinking here.

1:13

This is so bogus. Well,

1:15

it really really is. We'll

1:17

get to Jonathan Turley in just a moment. He

1:19

goes through it all. But I

1:21

think there's a lot of legal mumbo jumbo going

1:23

around. But I think when it comes down to

1:26

it, it's simply

1:28

a state

1:30

cannot disqualify. Number

1:33

one, the 14th Amendment doesn't even apply here. It

1:35

doesn't apply at all. Right. I mean when you

1:37

look at it, I mean that was really, you

1:39

think about it, that was for the Civil War.

1:41

Right. And that was for what happened

1:43

when you had actually

1:46

people fight against the United States.

1:51

And so when you look at the

1:53

case that, and I think it combined. the

2:00

reality and the the

2:03

legalities of all of this and

2:05

that is the fact that they're saying

2:08

the Colorado Supreme Court is saying

2:10

Trump cannot be on the ballot

2:13

in Colorado because he

2:15

did something that nobody has charged

2:17

him with. Right. I

2:19

think that that's the other thing that we

2:21

charge let alone convicted. Right. Of anything. And

2:27

the things that they that that

2:29

they use for example, past

2:31

statements as if statements

2:33

in themselves that had

2:35

nothing to do with January

2:38

6 is

2:40

the evidence that he

2:42

has committed insurrection. It's

2:45

really really poor I expect.

2:47

Now they've destroyed the Supreme Court's

2:51

Christmas vacation. Yes, Dan McLaughlin

2:53

writes at National Review.

2:56

Way to go Colorado. The Grinches

2:58

in Colorado have just have destroyed

3:00

the High Court's Christmas

3:02

vacation because you got to

3:04

settle this. I mean it's you know. You have

3:07

to settle it by what January 5th? Yep. January.

3:10

Well they the

3:12

stay is till the 4th but. Right.

3:14

Okay. Yeah. So it's the stay is

3:16

till the 4th.

3:20

Right. And they have

3:22

to have you have to have

3:24

the prime. You have to have the primary ballots

3:26

done I think by the 4th or 5th. Right.

3:29

For the state of Colorado. So there is no room. Right.

3:32

Yeah. No it has to be done.

3:34

Yeah. Here we are. You know

3:36

we just started the 20th so they got

3:38

to go to work like like now. I

3:40

mean it has to be. And if you

3:42

and if you want you

3:45

know again if you

3:47

want the perfect example that we've

3:49

always talked about how

3:52

activists judges are anti-democrat

3:56

anti-democratic. I'm not

3:59

anti-democrat. They're

4:02

pro-democrat, well-being, anti-democratic. And

4:08

we have stated this multiple times. Look,

4:11

I go back to the abortion issue. I

4:15

go back to the Dodds decision when

4:17

the left screamed that the

4:22

Republicans talk about us being

4:24

anti-democratic. This is completely and

4:26

totally anti-democratic. Not when you

4:28

break it down, it's not at all. It's the complete

4:30

opposite. As

4:33

the Supreme Court said,

4:35

this is an issue of life. We don't get

4:38

to decide it here because Congress and

4:40

the people of the United States haven't decided

4:42

it. And the last Supreme Court,

4:44

the Supreme Court that passed Roe v. Wade,

4:46

they had no business doing it. They

4:49

don't get to decide that. The people

4:52

of the United States, their

4:54

elected representatives get to

4:56

do it. And here in this

5:00

case, it's up to the people

5:02

of the United States and the people of

5:04

Colorado to

5:07

make their decision on it, not

5:11

unelected judges making

5:15

up law. And

5:19

that's the problem here. Let's go to...

5:22

This was... He was on Laura

5:24

Ingraham. That's the first thing that I saw

5:26

in the interview that he did. So I

5:29

want to go to Laura Ingraham on Fox

5:31

News, and this is Jonathan Turley. Understand Jonathan

5:33

Turley is a Democrat. Very important to understand,

5:35

and he has not said that he is

5:37

changing from being a

5:39

Democrat to a Republican. I've never heard

5:41

him say that. So understand he is

5:44

a Democrat. Here we go. Here's

5:46

the part. I think that four

5:49

unelected state

5:51

court judges could

5:53

conceivably end up

5:55

determining the presidential election

5:58

is... something

6:00

I think most Americans are just shaking their

6:02

head tonight saying this can't be the United

6:04

States. No,

6:07

it is a strikingly anti-democratic

6:10

holding in my view. The

6:12

court literally faced a series

6:14

of interpretive barriers to get

6:17

to where it ended up.

6:19

It adopted the most sweeping,

6:21

broadest possible interpretation to

6:23

get over every one of those hurdles.

6:26

So throughout this opinion, it

6:28

had to adopt interpretations

6:31

that could encompass

6:33

a wide array of statements. You

6:35

know, they used what's called true

6:37

threat precedent to show that you

6:39

can view what

6:41

Trump said as encouraging

6:44

an insurrection by looking at stuff that

6:46

he said at other times. And

6:48

that, of course, allowed them to

6:51

reach this conclusion. In

6:53

my view, the court is dead wrong.

6:55

This is the first major win for

6:57

these challengers. They've

6:59

gone to a number of blue states. This

7:01

is one of the bluest state supreme courts

7:03

you can get to. Even

7:06

with that, it's split. I

7:08

think the opinion is really

7:10

chilling. And I think that

7:12

the Supreme Court will make fast work of this

7:15

theory. I hope it does. But

7:17

I think this court, I think, did great

7:19

damage to its own integrity with

7:22

this opinion. And

7:25

there have been other rulings

7:27

in other state supreme courts,

7:29

correct? Or federal courts

7:31

that have come to

7:33

the opposite conclusion here. So this is an

7:35

outlier, which again, because of what's at stake,

7:37

it's going to have to be expedited to

7:39

the court, the Supreme Court. Yeah,

7:42

when you read this opinion, the

7:45

one thing that keeps on recurring

7:47

in your mind is, where's the

7:49

limiting principle here? What would not

7:51

satisfy this test? At each one

7:53

of these barriers, the court could

7:55

have adopted a fairly moderate or

7:58

more narrow approach. But it

8:00

did it. And so on every one of these

8:02

issues, it really took

8:04

out all the fail-sakes and went to

8:06

the broadest possible meaning. Well,

8:08

that means that states could engage

8:11

in a tit-for-tat type

8:13

of series of decisions. You

8:15

could have red states blocking

8:17

Biden on some ballots and

8:19

blue states blocking Trump. And

8:22

the way this view is viewed by the public

8:25

is really quite horrific. They

8:27

view President Biden on the

8:29

ropes, and the ref just called

8:31

the match. Well,

8:35

just so everyone understands

8:37

this tonight, essentially,

8:39

the state Supreme Court of

8:41

Colorado concluded that

8:44

the former president is guilty of

8:47

a federal crime that

8:49

he's never been charged with, which

8:52

is insurrection or rebellion,

8:55

for which he

8:57

could have been impeached as president, but

9:00

he has not been charged with that.

9:02

That's never been adjudicated. So with

9:05

that, could Republicans, to

9:07

your point, say, well, by

9:09

undermining U.S. sovereignty, by leaving

9:11

the border open, President Biden

9:14

is trying to undermine the U.S.

9:16

Constitution. It's tantamount to an insurrection.

9:18

It's a broad view. But he's

9:20

going to have to be taken off the ballot of name your

9:24

red state. Well,

9:26

this court just handed partisans on

9:28

both sides the ultimate tool to

9:30

try to shortcut

9:33

elections. And it's very,

9:35

very dangerous. I mean, this country is a

9:37

powder keg, and this court is just throwing

9:39

matches at it. And I think that it's

9:42

a real mistake. I think that they're wrong on the

9:44

law. You know, January 6 was

9:46

many things, most of it not good. In

9:49

my view, it was not insurrection. It was

9:51

a riot. That doesn't mean that

9:53

the people responsible for that day

9:56

shouldn't be held accountable. But

9:58

it's a call. this

10:00

an insurrection for the purposes of

10:02

disqualification would create a

10:04

slippery slope for every state in the

10:07

union. This is a time

10:09

when we actually need democracy. We need

10:11

to allow the voters to vote. We

10:13

need to hear their decision. And

10:16

the court here just said you're not going

10:18

to get that. In Colorado, we're not going

10:20

to let you vote for Donald Trump. And

10:23

you know, you could dislike Trump. You

10:26

could believe he's responsible for January 6th,

10:28

but this isn't the way to do it. I

10:31

mean, it is, you know, for people

10:33

that say they're trying to protect democracy,

10:35

this is hands down the most anti-democratic

10:37

opinion I've seen in my lifetime. Wow.

10:41

I mean, particularly that's pretty amazing.

10:43

The most anti-democratic decision I have seen

10:45

in my lifetime. Remember, that's a he's

10:47

a Democrat. And and this is, you

10:50

know, it's important to look

10:52

at it from all the possibilities that

10:54

they just laid out here of where

10:56

states could go if they didn't want

10:58

this person or that candidate on the

11:01

ballot. Think about because my

11:03

my question was when I woke

11:05

up and saw the decision from

11:07

Colorado was all right, am

11:11

I missing something? Was there a

11:13

state law that they're saying he

11:15

violated? You know, the state

11:17

Supreme Court came in and said, okay, look,

11:19

he clearly violated this law. Now, again, he

11:22

hasn't been charged with any violation

11:24

of a state law. But let's say there

11:26

was a state and

11:28

he had been charged with violating the

11:30

state election law. And that

11:33

law came with punishment of

11:36

never being eligible again to be on a

11:39

ballot in that state for

11:41

any office. All right, you

11:43

would have a much stronger case than what this

11:46

heaping, steaming pile of nothing that

11:48

the high court of the state

11:50

of Colorado threw down, because

11:53

then you could say, well, okay, that

11:55

now the law could be challenged, the

11:58

state law could be challenged and say, you know, so could

12:00

say, well, that's unconstitutional, we believe. Yeah, exactly. Right.

12:04

And because it's violating the rights of the

12:06

individual, it doesn't fairly vet

12:08

it out. But you would still

12:10

have a much better case of

12:14

this. I don't know. I mean,

12:17

the 14th Amendment, when

12:20

I saw that, I thought, I'm

12:24

reading it wrong. I know

12:26

I thought the same thing. It's

12:29

a typo. Yeah. And I

12:31

thought, well, no, because no

12:35

other amendment would apply. I

12:37

mean, I don't know what it would be. And I

12:40

thought, okay, but what else is here? I

12:42

almost had to set that aside because

12:44

it was so confusing. And

12:46

that's why we've always tried to be clear about the

12:51

kind of justices that exist today. The

12:54

Democrats put in justices that they wish

12:56

to make law. Yep. And

12:59

the conservatives put in justices

13:02

who will stick to the original constitution. That's

13:04

what they wish to do and

13:06

then say, well, it's up to the people to

13:08

decide. We have the media

13:10

incorrectly identifying one side is liberal and

13:12

one side is conservative, and that's not

13:14

the case. Right. And

13:17

when it has been the case, the

13:21

rare times, we've always called it out.

13:23

Right. And we've always said, no,

13:25

sorry, you're trying, you're not

13:27

interpreting the law as it

13:29

was originally known, because that's the only way you

13:31

can do it because that's when you say, no,

13:33

okay, if that was the abortion

13:35

law, which when you

13:38

explain it to people, they go, oh,

13:40

yeah, but it's still wrong. Well, then

13:42

fine. Then the Congress of the

13:44

United States and the people of the United States

13:46

have to take it up. Right. But

13:48

people will be harmed. Well, does it

13:50

matter? In a

13:52

democracy, people are always harmed

13:55

until laws are passed. Exactly.

13:58

Right. because we don't

14:01

like the law to hell with democracy

14:03

and that's what these justices are doing

14:05

and it is incredibly

14:08

anti-democratic but I will

14:10

say this that I thought the same as you. I went,

14:14

they're using insurrection he

14:16

wasn't even charged with that anywhere. Yeah,

14:18

in 14th amendment how does that even

14:20

apply? You know because that's the thing

14:22

too both of those equally. Insurrection

14:25

14th amendment neither one applies.

14:27

He hasn't even been charged

14:30

let alone convicted of

14:33

taking part in an insurrection. Not

14:38

even close and they're

14:42

using it. Right but remember they're using

14:44

this it's the same thing because insurrection

14:46

is under the 14th amendment. I know

14:48

but the problem is is that it

14:50

neither one however you come at it

14:52

from any angle you know in

14:55

this case using insurrection there's

14:58

no way it applies in any way this

15:00

is a 14th amendment

15:02

apply and you're pulling something

15:04

out that you're just

15:06

saying because the media said it

15:08

because every liberal said it and

15:11

it doesn't apply. No one

15:13

has ever charged him with insurrection. Yeah

15:15

when I was doing some analysis from

15:19

Democrat legal people they said well no this is

15:22

the correct ruling because Trump committed

15:24

an insurrection I'm like well if you're

15:26

back in a statement that's untrue. No

15:28

that's the thing. That's nobody even has

15:30

charged with. That's my point. And you

15:32

haven't been able to connect the dots

15:34

and you're just claiming that it's true

15:36

therefore it's legal. Your leverage on the

15:38

14th amendment is insurrection? Look

15:42

and it's because why? Because

15:44

the left says so. Not

15:47

because any law was applied here

15:49

he was not charged or

15:52

evidence that they could present that it

15:54

existed nothing they just said it. A

15:57

state Supreme Court just

15:59

ruled that he was

16:01

guilty of something that he was

16:03

never legally even charged

16:05

with. Right. In

16:08

fact, they can't even explain it. No, that's

16:10

what I mean. They can't

16:13

even charge it because they can't explain.

16:16

When they claim it's an insurrection, they

16:18

can't explain what Trump did to

16:20

make it an insurrection. Exactly.

16:22

Well, and that's why I went back and I was

16:25

like, okay, 14th Amendment. And,

16:27

you know, if they're trying to... and then insurrection, again, if he

16:29

had been charged with insurrection,

16:35

and right now that trial we're pending and

16:37

whatever. By the way, that

16:39

would be the biggest deal. The

16:42

liberal media and the liberal talking

16:46

heads know this. They

16:49

know that, but they throw it out with nothing there.

16:52

There is no foundation for

16:54

this, but a state

16:56

Supreme Court using

16:58

that as the leverage for

17:01

this decision, you're begging

17:04

the high court of the U.S. Well,

17:06

you know, we have said this. I

17:09

think that the

17:11

outlet for liberals, because they know right now

17:13

we're at a time when liberalism is hitting

17:15

reality, and liberalism is failing like crazy. Right.

17:19

And so what do you have left? You

17:21

have justices that you have

17:24

put in that will not interpret the law but

17:26

wish to make law. Right. And,

17:28

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19:43

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19:45

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19:47

both based on realism and the

20:00

Constitution of the United States. And it

20:02

was Representative Clay Higgins on Twitter put,

20:04

the media asked me, Congressman Higgins, what's

20:07

your opinion regarding the Colorado Supreme Court

20:09

ruling? The Trump cannot be on the

20:11

presidential ballot. Higgins

20:13

responded, it's Colorado, they're

20:15

high. SCOTUS will overrule

20:18

THC. That's funny. That's

20:23

funny. Well, I mean, I think we're

20:25

on the path Dan McLaughlin left out

20:27

the asterisk, at the end of his

20:29

article at National Review. I mean,

20:31

it's possible, I guess, that Trump

20:33

wouldn't appeal. I

20:36

think Trump won't appeal, but

20:38

we'll see. You're

21:00

listening to Red Eye Radio. Welcome

21:02

to the United States of New York.

21:08

It's Red Eye Radio, he's our curling,

21:10

I'm Gary McNamara, and just reading the

21:12

deadline. Ramaswami vows to withdraw from Colorado

21:15

primary ballot, unless Trump

21:17

is on it, calls for GOP opponents

21:20

to join, where

21:23

everybody is off

21:26

of the border. Good

21:29

luck with that. It's

21:32

not gonna get to that point. Yeah, well,

21:34

something tells me Ramaswami won't be in the

21:36

race by then, by Colorado. I

21:40

don't know, he's wealthy, he may

21:42

stay in. He can pay

21:44

for gas money. He may

21:46

stay in that. Anybody can stay in because you may

21:48

not be in a debate if

21:53

whatever debate still continues on, but

21:56

he can stay in as long as he wants. Well,

21:59

but I mean, it gets. expensive, you're going to have to

22:01

campaign if you're going to do anything. If there's any

22:03

reason to stay in, it's to get the word out.

22:05

You know, you're not going to win. I don't know

22:07

Jill Stein. I don't think ever can. I

22:14

haven't seen her credit card bills though. I

22:18

mean, cause you do you it's, it's expensive

22:20

to get, you know, from state.

22:22

Look, hitchhiking is coming back. It's making a

22:24

comeback. So by

22:27

necessity. Exactly. Oh

22:29

my gosh. That's sad and kind of

22:31

funny at the same time. You want

22:33

to know how old I am? Yeah.

22:37

Well, I hitch tight. So

22:40

in my life in Texas, uh,

22:43

especially down in the San Antonio del Rio area,

22:45

we had a, you know, we kind of considered

22:47

him a, uh, a

22:50

local, not hero, but local

22:52

musician that did

22:54

fairly well in the seventies and

22:56

eighties, Johnny Rodriguez. Country finger. Riding

22:59

my thumb to Mexico. It's

23:03

a hitchhiking song. How many hitchhiking songs

23:05

do we have? Uh,

23:08

CCR, sweet

23:10

hitchhiker. Right. And that's

23:12

not even hitchhiker. It's hitchhiker. Yeah.

23:15

Sweet hitchhiker. Yeah. I

23:18

don't, uh, I'm there's, um,

23:24

ride, ride, ride, hitch in a ride.

23:26

Yeah. It's an R 60 song hitch in

23:28

a ride vanity fair. I think that is. Yeah. That's

23:32

good, Gary. Wow. I'm bad. That's so well enough

23:34

for a set yet. I'm trying to see if

23:36

I could do a, I pulled a new genre

23:39

hitchhiker metal. Boston.

23:43

Yeah. Gonna hit your ride. Yeah. It's your ride.

23:45

Oh man. We may be onto something a whole

23:47

new genre. Now

23:49

I still hitchhike. Yeah.

23:52

But I use an app. That's

23:57

a great point. it

24:00

was worse coming out, we actually talked

24:02

to somebody at Uber in

24:05

San, no, no, we talked to somebody in the

24:07

media in San Francisco because

24:09

Uber was kind of,

24:12

you know, really taking off there in

24:14

San Francisco at that time. And

24:16

it was so early and it was ride sharing.

24:18

Here's the thing, ride sharing,

24:20

you're not sharing, that driver

24:22

wasn't just going to that

24:25

place you want them to go to. But that's

24:29

how it was sold at the beginning. And

24:32

that's kind of how hitchhiking works. Where

24:34

are you headed? I'm headed up,

24:36

you know, I need to get to wherever. Well, I'm

24:39

going as far as so and so, so hop

24:42

in. You know,

24:44

and have you ever picked, I've

24:46

never picked up a hitchhiker. Have

24:49

you? Yes. Yeah. And

24:51

it goes back to my

24:54

college days when I

24:56

was... Drunk? When

25:03

I... No, to

25:05

use the congressman before. When

25:09

I was high in making stupid judicial

25:11

decisions. No,

25:16

it's when... It

25:19

would have been in my first year of college. And

25:21

it's when I... The

25:26

bus only came like once an hour. And

25:30

I would... Main Street in the suburbs, Main

25:36

Street runs all the way from the suburbs, way

25:38

out in the suburbs, all the way right to

25:40

the middle of downtown Buffalo. And

25:43

I would, you know, pick up

25:45

a ride. And one time I

25:47

actually picked up a mother and a daughter.

25:52

I never had... I probably in my

25:54

life, 10 times

25:57

or less, and probably picked

25:59

up... people five times or less. Yeah.

26:02

I mean you knew it was

26:04

dangerous but it wasn't viewed as dangerous as

26:06

it is you

26:08

know as it became then in the 80 because

26:11

when I was doing it was when

26:13

I was hitchhiking that would have been

26:15

73 74 50 years ago. Yeah well

26:17

here's the thing you

26:20

know I just

26:22

look for the comedy and everything so

26:25

you know they're standing on the side of the road with

26:27

their the thumb out and I

26:29

just ride by and then give

26:31

them affirmation by giving them

26:33

a thumbs up out the window. I

26:37

haven't seen anybody. Hey you know

26:40

I'm with you. Have you seen

26:42

anybody hitchhike lately? I haven't seen

26:44

anybody hitchhiking years. I've seen a

26:46

few people walking that clearly

26:48

would like a ride and

26:52

one guy it was oh man

26:56

maybe a month ago and

26:58

he had a huge uh

27:02

I don't know this wasn't a backpack I mean

27:04

it was just it was massive on

27:07

his back and he was walking. He's

27:11

probably not going very

27:13

far. Homeless? Probably no.

27:15

I could be um

27:20

but to carry that I mean I'd never seen

27:23

that with the homeless usually there but who

27:25

knows but he was I mean this is out in the

27:27

country by the way not in

27:29

a okay not in a town so

27:32

I don't know I mean it's it's hard to

27:34

know. Really in the you know you think about

27:36

it the the probably from 65 to 75 hitchhiking

27:40

was huge people did it all the time. My dad

27:42

when he was 18 I

27:44

talked about this he was going into the

27:46

Navy had to report to Naval Air Station

27:48

in Fort Worth and

27:50

he lived the drive right now

27:52

the small town would

27:55

be roughly an hour maybe a little under an

27:57

hour would be the drive but he

27:59

hitchhiked. to Fort

28:01

Worth Naval Air Station. He

28:03

was 18. He had to get there. Yeah,

28:06

you know, he got there, he reported, he got there

28:08

on time, he left in plenty of time, got

28:10

there on time, and you

28:13

know, it's kind of that's... he

28:17

didn't have any means

28:19

of transportation. They

28:22

were dirt

28:24

poor, you know, so

28:27

it... yeah, I mean, that's

28:30

just what you did. Yeah,

28:32

it was, you know, and it was... you just... and

28:35

I think because I had hitchhiked

28:37

a few times that when

28:40

I saw somebody else hitchhiking, if

28:42

they didn't look threatening, how

28:44

do you know?

28:46

Yeah. That you just, you know, you give them

28:49

a ride, where you heading, you know, where you heading to? Yeah,

28:51

okay, I'm going right by there and, you know,

28:53

I don't think I ever took anybody over five miles

28:56

where my hitchhiking was like 15. Yeah.

29:02

Now, these days I probably would have tipped them.

29:05

Right. But yeah,

29:07

but Uber is just legalized hitchhiking

29:09

with an app. You

29:12

know, Ben, what's

29:14

his name? From Cash Cab. Stand

29:18

up. Yeah, yes, yeah. Ben Bailey.

29:22

He should do now, you

29:25

know, I don't know, hitch a ride

29:27

for cash or something like that. You

29:30

know, he picks up a hitchhiker. Of

29:32

course, it would take a long time to film

29:34

this, and then all of a sudden they

29:36

get in and they're on a game show. Maybe

29:40

it would be disastrous or maybe it's the train

29:42

wreck we need. Yeah.

29:46

Green Day also did a song. There's a ride.

29:48

Well, it's, what was the, there

29:51

was the Roger

29:53

Waters album, the pros and

29:55

cons of hitchhiking. Yeah.

29:59

Yeah, but isn't he a social? So wouldn't that

30:01

be true ride-sharing with him? Well, he writes

30:03

was that's why he starts with the the

30:05

pros the pros And cons

30:07

of it. I didn't know of any

30:09

pros Because if

30:12

you're hitchhiking you're not going hey

30:14

listen everybody. I'll be back later. I'm gonna go do

30:16

some hitchhiking It's it's

30:18

not a hobby What's

30:23

your hobby I'm into hitchhiking You

30:26

know well, but

30:28

yeah, it will be interesting to see

30:31

getting back to the Colorado Supreme Supreme

30:34

Court The

30:37

Supreme Court probably and by the way, I do

30:39

believe the Trump will challenge it I well first

30:41

of all I think you know I think you'll

30:44

have more than well No,

30:46

Trump will challenge it because it's a

30:48

federal case and he's been damaged by

30:50

it So the person the

30:52

person filing it will be the person I think

30:55

and damage. Yeah, I think I think you will

30:57

Hey, the Trump camp and he owes he he

30:59

owes it to

31:01

well I think Everyone to to

31:03

actually take it all the way to the

31:05

top because of the insane ruling

31:07

again when I looked at it It was like you

31:10

know the 14th amendment and then to see the

31:12

leverage for it is is insurrection

31:16

Both of those are equally mind-boggling

31:19

Because I thought to myself you

31:21

know first of all I thought well, that's a typo

31:24

or I'm reading it wrong or something and Then

31:28

I thought okay, let's see what the basis is

31:31

oh, that's the basis. Well,

31:33

he was never convicted of that He

31:38

was never charged with that now, where

31:40

are they going with think about that a

31:45

court The

31:47

highest court of that state, but

31:49

if you want it, I mean it's the first

31:51

thing I thought of was okay Trump will be

31:53

up 25

31:55

points on Biden next week, right? right

31:59

because Because if you look at it, you

32:01

want to solidify your base and even bring,

32:04

I will tell you it was amazing the

32:06

number in social media. And again, I woke

32:09

up to this at 10 o'clock, you

32:11

know, and had a rush come into work. But

32:13

I was amazed a number of people said,

32:16

look, I'm a never-Trump-er and this is BS.

32:18

Yeah. Yeah. It's garbage.

32:21

I mean, you're really so, because

32:23

it is so anti-democratic and

32:25

it really does solidify

32:29

in Republicans and I think

32:32

moderate independents,

32:35

which I believe there are probably more

32:37

moderate independents than there were. I'm

32:41

thinking there's probably more moderate independents than there ever

32:43

has been since the whole thing

32:45

of becoming, quote, an independent became a big

32:47

thing. Right. Right. Yeah.

32:51

And I think they look at this and say, all

32:53

right, this is what the Republicans have said.

32:55

You pick activist judges who just make up

32:57

stuff as they go along. Well, all of

33:00

my lore said it. You

33:02

know, remember when she didn't know

33:04

or forgot she was being recorded,

33:06

you know, we look at it as,

33:08

you know, it's

33:11

not just about that. It's about, and

33:14

I'm paraphrasing here, it's about essentially changing

33:17

the law from the bench. No,

33:21

you don't get to do that. And

33:23

then she said, actually, once she

33:25

remembered she was being recorded, I

33:28

mean, I know we're not supposed to say

33:30

that now, you just said it and

33:33

we knew it all along. Thanks

33:35

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34:03

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34:05

got a ton of weird stories out

34:08

there. Yeah, we do. We do. And

34:10

some more hitchhiking stories coming up. Oh,

34:13

by the way, Merry Christmas. Merry

34:16

Christmas. And trying to

34:19

do both. We hope you find a

34:21

ride home. Cover

34:23

the insanity out there and at the same time

34:26

try to be a little bit jolly. If

34:29

it's possible. Coming

34:32

up on the show, Trump

34:34

goes after Representative Chip Roy

34:37

yesterday, put out a tweet

34:39

stating that Chip

34:41

Roy is a rhino and

34:44

that somebody should challenge him and basically get

34:46

a hold of me, implying

34:49

that if you wish to challenge

34:51

Chip Roy in the

34:53

Texas primary that he'll support you

34:56

and call Chip Roy a rhino. Because

35:01

Chip Roy is a

35:03

DeSantis supporter. I

35:06

can't even play with you. Chip Roy went bonkers.

35:09

He went absolutely bonkers. Yeah. I

35:11

mean, he was just... Yeah, we can't play it. We can't play

35:13

it. Curcine. Unfortunately.

35:16

Curcine left and right, but did some interviews afterwards

35:19

on it, but they immediately, everybody called

35:22

off Trump and said, before you

35:24

write a tweet, know what you're talking

35:26

about. There is no

35:28

period. The period's ended to put

35:30

your name in to run in the primary. So it

35:32

couldn't happen to begin with. But it

35:34

was the whole rhino thing, which we've dealt with

35:36

before. And

35:39

we put it to bed right away. To

35:42

give you an example, we got it here

35:44

a couple of months ago. Some

35:47

of you guys don't know what the fight's about. But

35:50

whenever we've been called a rhino, we've

35:52

said, absolutely, we're rhinos. We are way

35:54

more conservative than the Republican Party. Oh,

35:56

yeah. Yeah. So

35:58

if you want to do that, we'll disarm

36:00

that right away. You guys are rhinos right?

36:02

We're more conservative than the average Republican. I'm

36:04

not even a Republican in name I don't

36:07

call myself. Yeah, neither my I mean, I

36:09

I'm in the I vote in the Republican

36:11

primary But I'm rhinos Republican in name only

36:14

I'm not a Republican in name. So I

36:16

don't Sorry, but

36:18

it was just yeah, but

36:20

it was like wow, but he just went he

36:23

was like well He is though and

36:25

that's why you know, yeah Subject would just

36:27

simply say and he did he goes, you

36:29

know, I've been fighting conservative causes He was

36:31

extremely upset I mean we sort of chuckle

36:33

when the guy said a couple months ago

36:35

you guys don't understand what the fight is

36:37

about It's a young Republican. It's like no

36:39

we have no idea talk radio for decades.

36:42

You guys don't get it. Yeah. All right

36:56

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37:42

you for being here this morning you

37:45

know when we had

37:48

played some of the analysis from

37:50

a constitutional

37:52

law professor Jonathan Turley on the

37:54

Colorado Supreme Court and Kicking

37:58

Trump off the ballot I

38:03

happen to go by more of the things that Turley

38:05

was writing on Twitter yesterday. And

38:08

he wrote this, we had talked about it, about that

38:10

study from Great Britain, that

38:12

breathing is destroying the planet.

38:14

If you're breathing out, if

38:16

you're exhaling. I

38:19

think about 80% of people do. Yes.

38:25

Except in Colorado, they inhale

38:28

and then the justices don't exhale. Well,

38:31

it's legal. But

38:35

he has a recent

38:38

study suggested human breathing contributes

38:40

to climate change. And

38:42

then he writes, California could

38:44

go red this election

38:46

if voters insist on

38:48

being completely greenhouse emission

38:50

neutral. Yeah.

38:54

What he's implying here is if

38:56

the voters say we're going to

38:58

be completely greenhouse emission neutral, you

39:00

commit suicide. Yeah.

39:04

And then he writes

39:06

later on in it, this

39:08

is a disclaimer, I think. He

39:10

might have gone, oops. In fairness

39:13

to the researchers, they are obviously trying

39:15

to determine different contributions of sources to

39:19

climate change. And not

39:21

recommending personal abatement measures

39:23

for individuals. Don't

39:27

commit suicide to save the planet.

39:29

Exactly. Yeah. Oh,

39:32

my. Well,

39:36

you know, there's the old saying, don't

39:38

hold your breath. Liberals

39:40

are now saying, yeah, you need to hold your breath.

39:45

Hold your breath. Holding

39:49

your breath now is

39:51

not just what a spoiled young

39:53

child does to get the attention

39:56

of their parents. It's to save

39:58

the planet or a challenge. That's

42:00

a line of horse manure. Well, no,

42:02

but there's a company that

42:05

has made the, uh,

42:09

carbon dropping material.

42:12

I don't know if we talked about it on the air or off

42:15

the air, but it's

42:17

essentially, I don't know, wood

42:20

chips. Oh yeah. Yeah.

42:23

And, and, you know, and they, okay, this is

42:25

going to, and then we're going to, I

42:27

don't know, bury it, whatever they're going

42:29

to do with it. Yeah. We did talk about it.

42:31

Yeah. You're not going to win it. You

42:34

know, now you're going to make a

42:36

million dollars before the environmentalists

42:38

actually reached to the point of going, no,

42:40

that's not going to work because

42:44

the only thing that will work is humans

42:46

not existing for them. That's the only, the

42:48

only standard that they have is stop

42:51

existing. And

42:54

we remember because we did the story probably

42:57

15 years ago, the story of when climate

43:01

change really first, uh,

43:03

came into it and you had some of the radicals

43:09

stating that, uh, and I remember one, I can't remember

43:11

who the guy was that said we need to get

43:14

rid of, I think we had 7 billion as a

43:16

population around there. Yeah. It's like, we need to get

43:19

rid of 6 billion people and be down to 1

43:21

billion people and have no city

43:23

the size over 25,000. And

43:26

it was like, and every city needs to be a hundred

43:28

miles away from the other city, it's like,

43:30

yeah, that's going to happen. You're an idiot. Right.

43:34

Yeah. And so, you know, I guess, well, no,

43:36

I mean, that's, and that, that

43:38

was the start of, well, no, that was

43:40

to start really a virtue signaling. Let

43:43

me propose something that can never

43:45

be done. And then people will

43:47

think that I am this great

43:49

thinker. Yeah, exactly. Well, that's it.

43:51

It's, you know, I've come

43:53

up with, and this is the whole thing

43:55

with the abstract that the left

43:58

tries to live in now. reality is

44:00

sitting on all fronts. And

44:03

with conservatives or critical thinkers,

44:05

of course reality hits even

44:08

during that conversation of the abstract because

44:10

we take it all the way through.

44:15

And Bill Burr in one of

44:17

his stand-up specials says, you

44:19

know, if I'm running for office, look,

44:22

I'm going to just tell the truth, you know. Listen,

44:25

thanks for being here today. I'm paraphrasing.

44:28

But you know, look, to begin with, you know, a

44:31

number of you are just going to have to go. Now,

44:35

wait, hear me out. Under

44:38

your chair you'll find an envelope. But

44:41

that's the whole thing. You walk it

44:43

through and go, well, we shouldn't exist.

44:45

Now, I will say this. I

44:49

don't know the impact of environmentalists

44:52

or, you know, activists,

44:55

or if it's just, you know, the

44:58

cost of everything, or

45:00

the massive responsibility that

45:02

is being

45:04

apparent, but our birth rate is

45:07

very, very low as a

45:09

nation. And

45:13

I don't know. I'm guessing that's generational. I'm

45:15

guessing it's all the above of what I

45:17

just mentioned. You know, some

45:19

of all the above.

45:23

And so we, you know, we might be on our

45:25

way. Look,

45:30

if liberals aren't having babies, that's a good

45:32

thing, right? Let's

45:36

hope. Let's hope. But

45:40

that's kind of where I

45:42

think, and I, we have seen articles, I

45:44

think we've talked a few stories along

45:46

the way in our 18 and a half years together

45:49

of, you know, whether it's

45:52

a poll or whether it's someone

45:54

in an article that mentions something,

45:56

you know, well, we

45:59

don't want to have children. We don't want to have

46:01

a family because you know, it's bad for the environment.

46:03

You're right climate change. Yeah, all right

46:05

for whatever reason I Totally

46:09

support that if For

46:11

whatever reason you decide as a couple as a person

46:13

or whatever You're not gonna have children

46:15

and you don't have children. That's better than

46:17

I don't want children but

46:20

I have children a lot better

46:23

trust me as a trained

46:26

foster parent and and and foster

46:29

to adopt now a

46:31

parent of My

46:35

angel my youngest daughter That

46:38

is absolutely okay if you

46:40

decide not to have children Well,

46:43

I think we suggested that all liberals should

46:45

not have children once we found out That's

46:48

what I was saying. If it's if we're getting

46:50

to the point where liberals are, you know That's

46:52

going to be the new, you know, oh, no,

46:54

no, you can't have good virtue signaling Yeah, and

46:56

that's and remember I think it's 60 or

46:59

70 percent right of young people

47:01

adopt the politics of their parents,

47:03

right? So yeah, we're all

47:05

for it, right? Yeah,

47:08

now I think most people know you and I are staunchly

47:12

against abortion But

47:15

you know if you decide and you

47:17

want to use well, no protection How

47:20

how dare you say that I was

47:22

I was suggesting celibacy Yeah

47:26

How dare you imply that I might have been going

47:28

in another direction? I was advocating

47:31

pure celibacy. I have to go for life.

47:33

I have for liberals. I have to google

47:35

the words celibacy What does that mean again?

47:41

Well, what is that was

47:43

the stuff you get on your legs when you get older I'm

47:47

sorry. What is it? Dr? I you

47:50

got you got a really bad case of Like

47:56

some steroid cream might help It

48:00

looks like it's spreading. It's

48:02

a... You go home. Hey, what's wrong?

48:04

I don't know. I'm just... I

48:07

don't know. I... What's

48:09

wrong? I think it's the

48:11

end. What? Doctor says I

48:13

have acute celibacy. Well,

48:16

maybe Al Bundy was on to something,

48:18

remember? Yeah. It was Al

48:20

who said sex leads to marriage, so sex

48:22

is bad. Al. Al.

48:29

You know you and I could go lecture at

48:31

colleges. Well,

48:36

hold it. Let me be inm Okay.

48:46

Just make sure. And you know that's... It's...

48:50

But it is... I always make

48:52

the joke, but it's kind of we're in that

48:54

age of... And we talked about the parallel

48:56

to the movie Demolition Man and

48:59

the virtual sex. I mean, I think we're

49:01

probably at that point. I don't know what

49:03

the potential of AI is right now, but...

49:10

There could be something going on there later. But

49:13

I look at it and I say to myself,

49:15

well, look, I mean, if you're of that mindset,

49:19

I'm perfectly okay with you not having kids. For

49:24

whatever reason, but especially if

49:27

you're... Listen, I

49:29

can't fit kids into my Tesla. Are

49:32

you kidding me? Children in a Tesla?

49:35

There's no place for children in either

49:37

a classroom or a Tesla. That's

49:40

a liberal. That's a liberal mindset right

49:42

there. Well, no parents. No parents in the classroom.

49:44

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49:47

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51:14

Hey, it's Red Eye Radio. He

51:16

is Eric Hurley, and I'm Gary

51:19

McNamara. Welcome. And

51:22

good morning. I just thought it was

51:25

really interesting yesterday, and

51:27

I think we

51:29

talk about the problems with the Democrat Party.

51:32

We also talk about the problems with the

51:34

Republican Party right now and the split that

51:38

exists between Republicans out there.

51:40

We had stated

51:44

back in 20, after the 2016 election, we

51:46

actually broke it down with the 8th Demer,

51:48

basically at least 8 demographics had voted for

51:50

Trump and the reason that they did

51:53

so. Found

51:56

it interesting yesterday, again, we just

51:58

mentioned it earlier that... Trump put

52:00

out a text that Representative Chip

52:02

Roy. Chip Roy is mostly

52:04

conservative. You and I have disagreed with him a couple

52:06

of times, but mostly if you were

52:09

to look at where he stands on being

52:11

a conservative, he's probably about 95% of

52:14

the way there. Would you agree? Yeah. Chip Roy.

52:16

Yeah, sure. And, and, but

52:18

Chip Roy has chosen DeSantis.

52:21

And so Trump

52:24

put out a tweet yesterday saying that

52:27

anybody in Texas who would be willing to challenge

52:30

Chip Roy, you know, in the primary, let me

52:32

know, you know, let me know about

52:34

it because implying that he'll help and endorse you

52:37

to beat Chip Roy. Now, Chip Roy went crazy about it.

52:40

I mean, we can't even play what he said because he

52:42

was cursing and, you know, he

52:44

was, and Trump called him a rhino. And

52:46

so immediately he, you know, he took off

52:49

at him. That's one of the challenges that

52:51

the Republican party has. And you know, I've

52:54

talked about it about whether the Republican party

52:56

is becoming more conservative or more liberal populist.

52:59

That's a concern. You know, we

53:01

still wonder where Trump would go in his second

53:03

term. You know, you could look at somebody

53:05

like a Chip Roy. I could look at myself and

53:08

say that over my lifetime, I've been

53:10

much more consistently conservative than Trump has

53:12

been. That's not a, that's

53:15

not an insult of Trump. That's just

53:17

the reality of the things that he

53:19

has promoted and it's documented in his

53:21

book that he wrote at the beginning

53:23

of this century that,

53:25

you know, the wealth tax,

53:27

which is used extremely liberal, who was the

53:29

person that brought that into the mainstream? That

53:32

would have been Trump. Yeah,

53:35

the wealth tax. So there's been a, there's

53:37

been a ton of, there's been a

53:41

ton of different things. I don't want to

53:43

use a ton. There's been a number of

53:45

things that Trump has done. A ton doesn't

53:47

really, doesn't mean anything, but

53:50

there's been a number of things that Trump has

53:52

supported in the past that are outright liberal.

53:56

There are liberal things we talked yesterday about when

53:59

Bernie Sanders, said, I agree with Trump

54:01

on tariffs. You saw

54:03

the story or the Wall Street Journal breaking

54:06

down the offer from the Japanese steel

54:09

company saying, doing it because

54:12

of the tariffs that were led by Trump, that

54:15

now they can get in and then

54:17

get into the infrastructure bill, which

54:20

mandates US steel being

54:22

used. They're buying, they wish

54:24

to buy it. US

54:28

companies don't wish to buy

54:30

it because they're worried about

54:32

the antitrust situation that

54:35

would come because of it and how the regulators

54:37

would look at it. So the

54:39

Japanese company comes in, offers more, says,

54:41

this is our loophole. This

54:44

is where we can get a ton of business

54:46

based on the infrastructure act and

54:49

both the Trump

54:51

tariffs and the Biden tariffs

54:54

on steel. And

54:56

therefore, we as a foreign company can

55:00

make a huge profit out

55:02

of both Democrats and

55:05

Republicans attempting to manipulate the economy.

55:07

We disagree with that. We don't

55:09

think that Republicans or Democrats should

55:11

manipulate the economy. We disagreed

55:13

with Trump on a lot of things, but he

55:15

backed off on them, as we've stated before. I

55:18

neck it out, he came off as way more protectionist

55:20

than he ended up being. But

55:24

when we talked about how

55:26

we disagreed with Trump and the

55:28

tariffs, we were severely criticized when Trump

55:31

backed off on them and didn't put them

55:33

into NAFTA and then backed off

55:36

on it and really changed NAFTA

55:38

relatively little. We got

55:40

flack from Trump supporters again. And

55:43

we said, look, you're arguing tribalism that you

55:45

love the guy or arguing where he stands

55:47

on the issues. That

55:49

is a situation that the Republican Party

55:51

has now that it didn't have. As

55:56

much 20 years ago. And

55:59

that's a challenge. that the Republicans are going

56:01

to have to figure out, you

56:03

know, how to overcome. You

56:06

and I've talked about it with Trump. If

56:08

he wins, I don't have

56:11

any idea where he'll go on the issues. I

56:13

really don't. I don't know that. I know on

56:15

immigration where he'll go. Yeah, I don't. I

56:17

don't know where he'll go there. And

56:20

you know, who is he going to because you're going

56:22

to have to build some allies. You

56:24

need allies on Capitol Hill. Does

56:29

he believe that? That's the

56:31

question. Does he believe

56:33

he needs to bring the party together,

56:35

you know, as president? Walking

57:07

in a Winter Wonderland. Gary

57:09

and Eric on Red Eye Radio. And

57:12

he is Eric Harle and I'm

57:14

Gary McNamara. Welcome and good morning.

57:17

Did he say Joaquin in

57:19

a Winter Wonderland? I don't believe

57:21

so. Joaquin Phoenix? No.

57:24

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57:26

where you want if you can't listen live overnight. Yeah.

57:29

So when you

57:31

look at the situation, I thought it was

57:34

fascinating yesterday, especially how angry Chip Roy got

57:38

at Trump and,

57:41

you know, especially the whole Rhino thing. And

57:43

we can't play what he said because there's

57:45

just too much cursing in it.

57:49

But you know, he look, he

57:51

made some he made some solid points. He is

57:54

a conservative and nobody really talks. You know, we

57:56

talked about this many

57:58

times before. about, you know,

58:00

that there are not all. But

58:03

there are many people that like the

58:05

personality of Trump and don't, doesn't really,

58:07

don't really pay attention to where he

58:09

stands on the issues. Now,

58:12

for example, we, and we didn't get any

58:14

flack on this one. Cause I think most

58:16

people understand that right now in the economy,

58:19

price, people are price sensitive, absolutely

58:21

price sensitive. It's like, it's never

58:23

been before in most people's

58:26

lifetime. Inflation is

58:28

horrible. And so when, when

58:30

Trump came out a couple of months ago and said, day

58:32

one, if I'm elected president,

58:34

we put a 10% tariff on everything

58:36

coming in to the United States from

58:39

everywhere. It's like, what?

58:43

So now

58:45

the other day when he was speaking on, uh, when

58:47

he was speaking, he was talking about lowering

58:50

prices and didn't mention that again. But

58:52

just saying that shows you're

58:54

a little bit tone deaf as to what's

58:57

going on with inflation. We talk about the

58:59

Democrats being tone deaf. Well, if you're the

59:01

lead Republican running, the last thing you want

59:03

to do is say, I'm

59:05

going to increase the cost of

59:07

goods and services across the board

59:10

on day one. And

59:12

so those are things that we look at

59:14

and say, okay, because

59:16

of, we know he has flip

59:19

flopped on issues before. You

59:21

wonder where he truly stands. Somebody

59:24

like a chip Roy, you may disagree with him and

59:26

we've disagreed with him at times. He's

59:29

been extremely consistent on where he stands

59:32

on the issues as a

59:34

conservative. Yeah. We've said it about ourselves. I don't

59:36

know. I don't know anything that

59:38

I've really changed my core beliefs since,

59:40

uh, my 20s. You

59:44

know, I'm consistent. I am

59:46

more consistent as a conservative than Trump

59:48

has ever been. That's

59:50

not an insult towards Trump. That's

59:52

just reality based on what he

59:54

has written, not me interpreting

59:57

what he has written, but what

59:59

he is. written and where he has

1:00:01

stood on the issues in the past. Now

1:00:04

maybe he has changed but the

1:00:06

point was from Chip

1:00:08

Roy, I've always been consistent, he

1:00:10

hasn't. And

1:00:13

there's truth to that. Mm-hmm.

1:00:17

Sure. Yeah,

1:00:19

I you know I don't know

1:00:21

where the future of the party is.

1:00:25

With Trump in the race there

1:00:28

was bound to be and

1:00:30

actually has been all along the fracturing

1:00:33

of the party and

1:00:35

that is the party that is fully on board

1:00:37

or the members of the

1:00:40

party or supporters of the party that are fully on board

1:00:43

then the other group that is okay

1:00:46

I'll you know I'll be on board for

1:00:48

these things or you know this is the way I'll vote

1:00:50

and then there's the of course the Never Trumpers which

1:00:55

I don't know to what extent that exists now

1:00:58

unless you're talking about specifically talking

1:01:00

about voting. Well

1:01:05

it beyond 24 even

1:01:11

if Trump doesn't win it's likely he

1:01:13

won't run again. If

1:01:16

he does win he won't be eligible to run again unless

1:01:20

of course you know

1:01:22

things change wink wink

1:01:26

something for the liberals to think about. In Trump's

1:01:29

fourth term and so

1:01:35

just look not

1:01:37

saying it's gonna happen. And

1:01:41

beyond 24 what

1:01:43

happens? Well

1:01:46

Trump's endorsement will still mean something.

1:01:48

It will it will

1:01:50

be huge huge.

1:01:55

That's going to be I you know because you

1:01:58

know as long as he's around whether

1:02:00

he's president or not, his

1:02:03

thoughts will go one way or the other, and that's

1:02:06

kind of the whole point on the Chip Roy thing.

1:02:08

Look, if you want to challenge Chip

1:02:10

Roy in primary against him, I'll support you.

1:02:13

You'll get my endorsement. And it's far

1:02:16

too late for that. But

1:02:20

he's recognizing something that he's

1:02:24

always known, everybody knows. His endorsement

1:02:26

is it. So the

1:02:28

question then, all right, politically, you've

1:02:30

got to bring, because you're going to have to

1:02:33

bring the consensus to the party, which has always

1:02:35

been the case. You've got to bring as the

1:02:37

head of the party, and if you're president, you

1:02:39

are the head of the party. Sorry,

1:02:42

Ronna. It's not you. I

1:02:48

just thought she should hear that. Well, but, you

1:02:50

know, that's, but the point

1:02:52

is, especially as president, you've got to build

1:02:54

consensus for your agenda. This

1:02:57

is one of the things that was frustrating in his

1:02:59

first two years of his first

1:03:01

term, and that was you

1:03:04

didn't have the GOP get it together to

1:03:06

get – and they had control for

1:03:09

those two years – get it together to

1:03:11

get the funding for the wall. And we

1:03:14

can talk about – we could debate

1:03:16

the wall and all of this, but

1:03:18

that $25 billion mark, you know,

1:03:20

what he was asking for essentially, now there are a

1:03:22

couple of things. You

1:03:25

and I said, well, he should be out there

1:03:27

every day. Look, call your representatives and

1:03:29

tell them, you know, in the

1:03:31

GOP, they

1:03:33

need to help me get that wall built,

1:03:36

and we need a bill passed and everything else. And

1:03:39

then, you know, because

1:03:42

that's how you do it, if

1:03:44

you're going to get your agenda done, he got

1:03:47

it done on taxes. He got it done on

1:03:49

corporate taxes, 21%. I

1:03:52

would have told you you're smoking weed

1:03:54

before Trump if you told me someone

1:03:57

in the GOP is going to be able to get

1:03:59

it done. corporate taxes down to 21%. Yeah

1:04:02

but I bet you that to

1:04:05

the average Trump supporter, the absolute

1:04:09

Trump supporter out there, that is

1:04:12

even on their list. It's on our list of

1:04:14

great things that he did. Right. I don't hear

1:04:16

that ever being mentioned except when we mention it

1:04:18

because that was one of the great things he

1:04:20

did. Part of my point

1:04:22

is because what are the goals, what's the agenda

1:04:26

of the supporters? What

1:04:28

are they wanting because if

1:04:30

you're wanting chaos well

1:04:34

then you'll get chaos. No

1:04:36

I think what you and I

1:04:38

think the majority of what I

1:04:40

hear from people that

1:04:42

Republicans that wish to support Trump,

1:04:46

none of it's based on anything evil. It's always

1:04:48

based on things that are actually

1:04:51

when you look back at it people

1:04:53

view is extremely unfair. The two-tiered system

1:04:55

of justice. The going after Trump with

1:04:57

Russia collusion which was a setup by

1:05:00

the Democratic Party. That people believe that

1:05:02

Trump has never had never had a

1:05:04

fair chance because

1:05:06

of that that really dominated his

1:05:08

first three years. I

1:05:10

think that when you see as

1:05:13

we have stated the when you

1:05:15

especially the first impeachment that you see there and

1:05:18

the first impeachment which was based on

1:05:21

and we've we asked the question a

1:05:23

long time ago to the first impeachment

1:05:25

happened because the

1:05:28

Democrats thought Trump was getting too close

1:05:30

to the actual corruption in Ukraine with

1:05:32

the Biden family. Is that

1:05:34

a coincidence that we find all this out now and

1:05:37

you look back and you go okay we said it

1:05:39

a while back we go well there's the evidence that

1:05:41

the absolutely that the first

1:05:43

impeachment was completely and totally bogus. Can

1:05:45

you imagine by the way if he

1:05:47

wins in 24 and then sometime in

1:05:49

25 he invites so linsky

1:05:52

to the White House and says we're going to

1:05:54

talk about corruption and in

1:05:56

Ukraine and it just smiles

1:05:58

into the camera because that's Basically was

1:06:00

the basis of that phone call and

1:06:02

and so I see and then

1:06:04

the the indictment So I think that's but that's

1:06:06

a two-tier system of justice. I don't

1:06:09

hear a lot of outside of the border

1:06:11

and generalized economy

1:06:13

but not Specifics, you

1:06:16

know, that's what I hear from the majority and all those

1:06:18

are good things, right? But it comes down

1:06:20

to well What will you actually do and

1:06:23

that's why we pointed out when Trump said

1:06:25

a couple months ago? He said the first

1:06:27

thing I'll do 10% tariffs across the board

1:06:29

We're like you just told the American public

1:06:31

you're gonna raise prices That's the

1:06:33

last thing you want to do now last week

1:06:35

when he was talking I heard him talking He

1:06:37

talked about how we had need to get prices

1:06:39

lower and didn't mention the tariffs at all Yeah,

1:06:43

and so it's like okay now whether

1:06:45

he's bringing that up in other speeches I don't

1:06:47

know but we're issue people

1:06:49

the issues or it matters, you know where

1:06:52

you stand You know where you stand

1:06:54

on the on the the issue You

1:06:57

know the back and forth I think it's getting to

1:06:59

be a little bit childish now the whole Rhino thing

1:07:01

and going after You know Totally

1:07:03

loyal conservatives and calling them a

1:07:05

rhino but as we have stated

1:07:07

because we dealt with that in 2016 2017 or Whenever

1:07:12

we disagreed with Trump you guys are

1:07:14

rhinos. We went yeah You

1:07:17

know, I mean if you what if now

1:07:20

it doesn't really apply to us because we're We're

1:07:22

both Independents we

1:07:24

may vote in a Republican primary, but

1:07:26

we're both Independents and

1:07:29

so it doesn't really apply but

1:07:31

the first reaction was well, yeah I'm

1:07:34

much more conservative than the average

1:07:37

Republican Yeah, and the Republican Party

1:07:39

is moving away from what I

1:07:41

feel is fiscal sanity number one,

1:07:43

right? But then again when you look

1:07:45

at it to bring up another case when we when we look

1:07:47

at the whole Matt Gaetz thing

1:07:50

Yeah, but but the whole Matt Gaetz thing

1:07:52

going after you know going after McCarthy

1:07:54

Well that blew up and in their face and

1:07:57

remember and that was all based on the fact

1:07:59

Gaetz was promoting He's not like Trump.

1:08:01

He's not like Trump. And then you

1:08:03

had Trump supporters. McCarthy isn't like Trump.

1:08:05

He won't go to the wall to

1:08:07

ensure that we cut. And then

1:08:09

we had to tell people neither did Trump. Trump

1:08:12

had the opportunity to veto numerous

1:08:15

times spending bills. He never

1:08:18

vetoed one. Not one.

1:08:21

And so, uh, politically you...

1:08:24

That's the thing. You're not going to do

1:08:26

that. You don't want to have to sit

1:08:28

there with the blame on you. Well, right.

1:08:30

And I understand I'm not necessarily saying that,

1:08:32

you know, it was horrible that he did

1:08:34

that. What I'm saying is that

1:08:36

the comparison from loyal Trump supporters

1:08:38

was that... That you can't even

1:08:40

apply to... That Trump did something

1:08:42

that McCarthy would not when that

1:08:44

never happened. Right. Well, and there's

1:08:46

the thing too. We said

1:08:48

during that entire process, where is your

1:08:50

unicorn? Where is

1:08:53

that unicorn? It's

1:08:55

not Johnson. It's

1:08:57

not... It wasn't Jim Jordan. No. Jim...

1:09:00

What was Jim Jordan promising? Remember.

1:09:04

Well, I'll

1:09:07

work on raising the salt...

1:09:11

The salt deduction cap. Well,

1:09:15

who does that appeal to on a wide basis?

1:09:18

Liberals. Yeah, that was Jordan. That's Jim Jordan.

1:09:20

Who had Trump support. That's Jim Jordan. Now,

1:09:22

the interesting thing with Gates is Trump had

1:09:24

to come out and say, well, I don't

1:09:27

support what's going on. So Gates was all

1:09:29

over the place. Gates didn't even have it

1:09:31

straight. I'm not blaming Trump, but a lot

1:09:33

of Trump supporters got on the Gates bandwagon.

1:09:35

And on the day that it went down,

1:09:38

a reporter asked Matt

1:09:40

Gates on the fly. You

1:09:43

know, what do you think... What

1:09:45

is it that you think... Or

1:09:48

have you spoken to Trump, President Trump,

1:09:50

about this? She asked

1:09:52

the reporter. And she

1:09:54

asked that to Gates. And Gates says, well, he's...

1:09:56

I haven't spoken to him this

1:09:58

afternoon, but we have talked... about this recently

1:10:00

and I know that he supports this, but

1:10:03

he put on Truth Social just a little

1:10:05

while ago that he doesn't think this is

1:10:08

the right thing. And Matt Gaetz

1:10:10

was caught on the fly, he was

1:10:12

caught in the corner. And

1:10:15

there's the problem because there

1:10:17

is no unicorn, because there

1:10:19

is no perfect situation or

1:10:22

perfect candidate or perfect president

1:10:24

or perfect speaker or, I don't

1:10:27

know, perfect conservative. But that was

1:10:30

all based on you're

1:10:32

a rhino and I'm not. Exactly. And

1:10:34

it was a false, it was a

1:10:36

completely false narrative. I don't know where

1:10:38

that unicorn is. Show me that person.

1:10:42

Yeah. Because inevitably what does it

1:10:44

come back to? Well, I

1:10:46

am. Yeah, but you're

1:10:48

not up there. For the people that

1:10:50

are up there on Capitol Hill or a candidate

1:10:52

for president or whatever, show

1:10:55

me that unicorn. 86690,

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1:11:31

Welcome and good morning. I did hear that

1:11:33

the White House yesterday called it Biden's

1:11:36

economic plan. So

1:11:39

the whole thing is, are they moving away

1:11:41

from Bidenomics? Again, we brought up how they

1:11:43

dropped Bidenomics somewhere around

1:11:45

Thanksgiving. Yeah. We know this wasn't

1:11:47

being used. Then it came up again last week.

1:11:51

And now the

1:11:53

big question is, are they still going to use it or

1:11:55

have they dropped it again? And is

1:11:57

it now going to be Biden's economic plan? Yeah.

1:12:02

Well, I mean, it's, and I have to

1:12:04

believe, I still have to believe that it

1:12:06

was Biden himself that's, you

1:12:09

know, hey, why, why

1:12:11

do we drop Bidenomics? We're

1:12:14

not going to drop Bidenomics. I like Bidenomics.

1:12:17

And then I'm like, okay, I

1:12:20

guess we're using Bidenomics again. You

1:12:24

know, I'll walk out of the meeting with their heads down. Oh,

1:12:28

no. Here we go. Because they were, they were

1:12:30

on it. I mean, Friday, I heard it multiple

1:12:33

times. Yeah. We both, we both, wait

1:12:35

a minute. Where did that come from?

1:12:38

Yeah. Yeah. Somebody

1:12:40

was, we're not backing down from

1:12:42

Bidenomics. Okay. Don't. In fact, why

1:12:44

don't you use that? Joe

1:12:47

Biden reelection in 2024.

1:12:49

It's all about Bidenomics.

1:12:52

Please put that everywhere.

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I'm Gary McNamara. Good morning. telling

1:14:00

us to mask up again because

1:14:04

exhaling is bad for the planet. Permanent

1:14:11

masks. Wait for it. Well,

1:14:14

I don't think that's happening in Texas.

1:14:18

Now there are times when I'll put a gas mask

1:14:20

on just

1:14:23

to watch people's reactions. A

1:14:26

gas mask? Yeah. Okay. So

1:14:28

you're talking about regular masks. No, no, no. You're

1:14:30

talking about a wet word. Well, well, in a gas

1:14:32

mask. Now I'm talking about a gas mask because it

1:14:35

would, for the left, they would just want you to put

1:14:37

a regular mask on. It's not going to do

1:14:39

anything, but they would want, they would tell you it will. But

1:14:42

then, you know, jumping

1:14:44

to a gas mask, I

1:14:48

could see why my neighbors would be alarmed. I'll

1:14:52

get it. You

1:14:57

ready for the news? All right. New

1:15:00

York to consider reparations for

1:15:03

descendants of enslaved people. Okay.

1:15:08

We never got to talk about the

1:15:10

situation. In San Francisco? In San Francisco.

1:15:12

Where they don't even have the money

1:15:14

to open the office. Right.

1:15:16

Well, the mayor says

1:15:19

it's not in the budget. We don't have the budget

1:15:22

to open the office for

1:15:24

reparations in San Francisco.

1:15:26

So they don't have the money to even start

1:15:29

organizing to do it. No. But

1:15:32

they want to still believe they can do it.

1:15:34

And what were they up to in San Francisco?

1:15:37

The numbers got so high. Well,

1:15:39

and it was back and forth

1:15:41

between the statewide of California and

1:15:43

then San Francisco. They were

1:15:45

different. But I forget

1:15:47

what it was. I

1:15:50

mean, at some point, one of them jumped to 200

1:15:52

million. Uh,

1:15:59

hard time. Francisco runs out

1:16:01

of money eliminates reparations

1:16:03

office. Wow.

1:16:09

We don't have it in the budget. Okay.

1:16:11

Remember, all right. It was San Francisco that

1:16:13

got a, the San Francisco board unanimously

1:16:16

supported $5 million

1:16:19

per person in reparation payments. Yeah.

1:16:21

They can't even come up with

1:16:24

5 million once for

1:16:27

an office. I

1:16:29

don't think the office was even 5 billion.

1:16:31

No, I want to say I saw

1:16:34

somewhere where it was four or

1:16:39

just over four. I

1:16:43

don't know why that number is stuck in my mind, but

1:16:46

related to that story. But

1:16:49

they can't come up with the money for

1:16:51

an office. Yet

1:16:54

they still want to do it. So to New

1:16:56

York, good luck. I heard is, um, San

1:17:00

Francisco's office of reparations was cut

1:17:02

out of mayor London breeds latest

1:17:04

budget proposal as the

1:17:06

city struggles to enact 75 million in

1:17:08

cuts. Um,

1:17:12

my hope said the program

1:17:14

supervisor told the San Francisco examiner,

1:17:17

my hope is that the city's deficit is

1:17:20

eliminated quickly so that we

1:17:22

can fund the office of reparations

1:17:24

and fulfill the commit. Are they

1:17:27

doing THC in San Francisco too?

1:17:31

Yeah. That's the accusation of what's going

1:17:33

on in the Supreme court of Colorado

1:17:35

that. Yeah. Everybody's

1:17:38

doing drugs. Well, in San

1:17:40

Francisco, you're weird. If you're not

1:17:42

smoking weed, it's true. What

1:17:48

do they call it? Sober in San

1:17:50

Francisco, California,

1:17:53

or, or, um, hey,

1:17:55

why is that guy moving to Texas? They

1:18:01

call it California sober, where

1:18:06

you don't drink anymore, but

1:18:12

you still smoke weed. So my hope

1:18:14

is that the city's deficit is eliminated

1:18:16

quickly so that we can fund the

1:18:18

Office of Reparations and fulfill the commitment

1:18:20

made to address the historical injustices and

1:18:22

inequities that have persisted for generations for

1:18:25

black people of San

1:18:27

Francisco. Bolton originally, this

1:18:29

is the program supervisor, asked

1:18:31

the city for $50 million

1:18:34

in funding for the upcoming fiscal

1:18:36

year, which was progressively

1:18:38

cut over the following months.

1:18:40

He temporarily secured $2 million

1:18:42

before Breed pulled the plug

1:18:44

on that funding for the

1:18:47

upcoming three years of operations.

1:18:49

Yeah. Boy, doesn't

1:18:52

$50 million in

1:18:54

funding for the Office. $50

1:18:58

million. Boy, there's going to

1:19:00

be some great, they were planning some great

1:19:02

parties, weren't they?

1:19:05

Despite the news, advocates have

1:19:07

insisted reparation plans will continue

1:19:09

in the background. Will

1:19:12

they know? Now,

1:19:21

remember now, in December of 2022,

1:19:23

the advisory committee recommended

1:19:25

with that, the

1:19:28

Shimon Walton, the program supervisor who

1:19:31

was heading up this entire thing.

1:19:34

In December of 2022, the advisory

1:19:36

committee recommended the city pay long

1:19:38

time black residents to the city

1:19:41

$5 million, but Walton

1:19:43

opined shortly, said the figure should

1:19:45

be much larger. Five

1:19:53

million is a very minuscule number compared

1:19:55

to a lot of research that's been done. So,

1:20:02

what was the amount? Was it

1:20:04

50,000 that they had

1:20:07

originally estimated? No, no, 50,000 cost per taxpayer? No,

1:20:14

50,000 would be eligible in San

1:20:16

Francisco for the reparations. Okay.

1:20:22

So, of course, I'm doing my... I

1:20:25

have my phone calculator. Five million

1:20:27

times. Five million? Mm-hmm. Okay.

1:20:31

$250 billion, because that's what... Remember,

1:20:35

that's what we were talking about. Remember,

1:20:41

$250 billion, and the

1:20:45

city is trying to get rid of their

1:20:47

75... They're struggling

1:20:49

to make $75 million in cuts.

1:20:54

That's weird, because of the budget overruns. My

1:20:57

calculator says, ain't gonna

1:20:59

happen. Okay. I

1:21:03

don't think a calculator's supposed to make that judgment. Maybe

1:21:08

I'm reading it wrong. Well,

1:21:11

it's just stupid. We had so

1:21:13

much fun, whether California or San Francisco,

1:21:15

but San Francisco really got delusional on

1:21:17

that one. Right, yeah. When they got

1:21:19

to five million, and there was like

1:21:22

five million's not enough. So, you're talking

1:21:24

about $250 billion. Where are you gonna

1:21:26

get the money? It doesn't

1:21:28

matter, because you don't understand

1:21:30

liberalism, Gary. Here's how

1:21:32

it goes. You say... Quit

1:21:35

asking questions. That's hatred. Right.

1:21:38

You're asking questions about where it's gonna come from. That's

1:21:41

hatred. That's hatred. You're a racist, because you're asking

1:21:43

questions of where the money's gonna come from. What

1:21:47

you don't understand is, the

1:21:49

more something is impossible to

1:21:52

do, the

1:21:55

more... The greater

1:21:57

the virtue signaling. Right. The

1:21:59

more impossible... Well it is. The

1:22:02

greater the virtue signaling. And it's across

1:22:04

the board. Hey, we can run the

1:22:06

grid on solar and wind. You can't,

1:22:08

it's impossible. Shut up, you

1:22:10

want to destroy the world. No

1:22:12

I'm asking questions about whether you can actually run

1:22:14

a modern economy on solar

1:22:16

and wind. And you can't. It's

1:22:19

impossible. You can't do it. Oh

1:22:22

you negative Nelly. Got a figure,

1:22:24

Joe. You conservative. Are you? Always

1:22:27

say no, always say no. Why are you saying

1:22:29

it can't be done? Why can't you say it

1:22:31

can be done? Because

1:22:34

it can't be done. See,

1:22:36

there you go again. Then you're worldophobic.

1:22:40

Worldophobic? You're something phobic.

1:22:42

We'll get back to you. You're planetophobic. You're

1:22:47

afraid of the world. We're

1:22:50

pro world. Oh

1:22:54

my gosh. But

1:22:56

it's just like, that's

1:22:58

where liberalism has gotten to. Let's

1:23:02

be in bizarro world, Dakota's Seinfeld

1:23:04

episode. We'll be in bizarro world.

1:23:07

We'll promote things that are clear. Absolutely

1:23:12

obviously in

1:23:15

a self-evident way impossible. And

1:23:18

we are greater people because

1:23:21

we talk about doing things

1:23:23

that can't be done. This

1:23:28

is where they are right now. It's got to be

1:23:30

a lonely place to be. It really does. Well

1:23:32

I don't know. There seems to be a lot of them. Seems

1:23:37

like they're everywhere. And this is the

1:23:39

best though. I like this. This

1:23:42

is the best. In late

1:23:44

February, the reparations committee chairman acknowledged

1:23:46

the figure had no massive mathematical

1:23:49

basis. So

1:23:55

you're just worried about math

1:23:57

and money. That's what

1:23:59

you're worried about. worried about, remember Newsom?

1:24:03

Well it's not about the money,

1:24:05

that's where you started. Yeah exactly.

1:24:12

Man. Okay,

1:24:16

and California was up to

1:24:18

1.2 million. Officially,

1:24:21

right. To some people, right. Not at

1:24:23

all, but to some would be 1.2.

1:24:26

And who was the group calling for 200 million

1:24:29

or something? I mean it

1:24:31

was insane. I think that

1:24:33

was, okay that was what somebody had suggested

1:24:37

in San Francisco I believe when the 5

1:24:39

million was rejected. Okay, yeah. Nobody

1:24:45

gets it.

1:24:48

But that's the thing. When

1:24:50

you're a far left liberal,

1:24:53

reality doesn't matter. The

1:24:56

reality doesn't matter. The math

1:24:59

doesn't matter. Science

1:25:02

doesn't matter. Well,

1:25:07

if a guy can say, well I'm

1:25:09

a gal, and

1:25:12

then to the left, he's a gal. I

1:25:15

mean she. And I think wasn't

1:25:17

the budget of San Francisco 14 billion? Was

1:25:19

it 14 billion? Yeah,

1:25:21

let me just check

1:25:24

here real quick because just to

1:25:26

refresh all of this to let you

1:25:28

know the insanity. Yeah, their overall budget.

1:25:31

Right, they're 14.6 billion. Boy,

1:25:35

I have a good memory. So

1:25:39

the 5 million, which isn't sufficient, would be 250

1:25:41

billion. So

1:25:45

you're talking almost 20 times the

1:25:47

annual budget, which

1:25:50

would be 20 years of the budget for

1:25:58

San Francisco. That wasn't enough. They went

1:26:00

to 200 million, which would be

1:26:03

$10 trillion. Yeah.

1:26:06

But see, they care more. Right.

1:26:14

That's, it's all about virtue

1:26:16

signaling. But then all of a sudden, everyone's

1:26:19

going, okay, let's explore this. And

1:26:22

here's what it will cost. Well, it's not about the

1:26:24

money. What

1:26:27

is it about? Well, it's about

1:26:29

pretending. Yeah, it's, it's, but

1:26:31

no, I mean, that's actually

1:26:33

a great point. Maybe

1:26:37

that's where he was going to. He didn't finish his sentence.

1:26:39

It's not about the money. It's about pretending we have the

1:26:41

money. Right. We

1:26:43

wish to pretend that we care. And we

1:26:46

pretend that we care when

1:26:48

we propose something that is

1:26:51

absolutely impossible to do. Yeah.

1:26:54

Can't get there from here. And then we care more

1:26:56

than you. Right. My

1:26:59

God. And then what children

1:27:01

and what, I mean, absolute children. Well,

1:27:05

because for anyone,

1:27:10

whatever you're asking the

1:27:12

left to do, whatever, if you're somebody who supports

1:27:14

the left and you, you believe they should do

1:27:16

something. This

1:27:19

just looks like a circus. Like,

1:27:22

I mean, not even a

1:27:24

good circus. You know, the bad circus that we

1:27:26

come through. They didn't have an elephant, but they

1:27:29

had a donkey. The

1:27:31

bad circus. You know, I

1:27:33

mean, I lived in some small towns. We didn't have elephants. We

1:27:36

had the donkeys. They'd have a dog. Everybody

1:27:39

has a dog. Yeah, but this

1:27:41

one can sit. Mindset.

1:27:45

It's a three-wing or three-ring cat circus.

1:27:48

Yeah. Well, that's the other thing.

1:27:50

It wasn't three-ring. It was only one. One

1:27:52

ring. One ring. And cats. You

1:27:55

know. And

1:27:57

they didn't have the flying wolenders. They

1:28:00

had the falling

1:28:02

Wilson's And

1:28:07

they were proof that gravity works that

1:28:10

I my 866 90 redeye lines

1:28:15

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redeye on redeye radio I'm

1:28:30

Gary McNamara so good luck in New York looking at reparations. Yeah

1:28:37

good luck with that. I think New York City should look

1:28:39

into it too. I think so.

1:28:41

I think so. Because they're having no budget problems

1:28:43

at all. No and if you don't do it

1:28:45

you're not a caring consumer. I

1:28:48

think you're a caring consumer. I

1:28:50

think you're a caring consumer. I

1:28:53

think you're a caring consumer. I think you're

1:28:55

a caring consumer. And if you

1:28:57

don't do it you're not a caring community

1:29:00

or city. All

1:29:02

right here we go. The latest Harvard

1:29:04

caps Harris poll. All right. All

1:29:07

right. They

1:29:11

were asked the question. Democrats

1:29:14

were asked the question. Republicans and

1:29:17

independents were asked this

1:29:20

question. Do

1:29:23

you support prosecuting

1:29:25

Hunter Biden if

1:29:28

held in contempt? All

1:29:32

right. Okay. Republicans

1:29:35

89 percent. Independence

1:29:40

72 percent. Democrats

1:29:47

what percentage of Democrats

1:29:51

support prosecuting Hunter

1:29:54

Biden if

1:29:56

held in contempt by the Republicans officially?

1:29:59

I Don't know. though that's what they're

1:30:01

saying. As Republicans would say, we're we're

1:30:03

falling. We're going to the Department of

1:30:05

Justice. Criminal Referral Contempt. And

1:30:08

what they're saying is that the

1:30:10

Republicans do that. Then the Department

1:30:13

of Justice should prosecute Hunter Biden

1:30:15

for Democrats and. Fifty.

1:30:18

Four percent. The

1:30:21

majority of democrats. Wish.

1:30:26

To prosecute Hunter Biden. According

1:30:28

to the Harvard Harris Poll,

1:30:30

which is not a conservative

1:30:32

bolster. Fifty

1:30:36

four percent of democrats

1:30:38

the majority say prosecute.

1:30:41

The. Department of Justice abide, Department

1:30:44

of Justice should prosecute Hunter

1:30:46

Biden. If

1:30:49

the geo peace or so. Or

1:30:54

and I put that I put that. I

1:30:57

said it that way version of that way on purpose.

1:31:05

A Think about it. It's. Typically.

1:31:08

For. A lot of people. this would. Fall.

1:31:11

Along you know, really a political

1:31:13

standard. Hey.

1:31:16

I'm not a legal standard of. Look

1:31:18

if he was found with. Two

1:31:20

hundred pounds of weed Light? That's

1:31:22

legal. Two hundred pounds of cocaine.

1:31:27

As only legal in. Portland. At

1:31:29

two hundred pounds of cocaine. You

1:31:34

know I it's a different oh well, no we

1:31:36

think he should be. But

1:31:40

if found in contempt. Yes,

1:31:43

Which is new Most democrats

1:31:45

say. He should

1:31:47

be prosecuted. Yes, And

1:31:50

through when. If. the

1:31:52

g o p sense because that's

1:31:54

because you're that's basically right the

1:31:56

it would require again we're talking

1:31:58

about a pool standard here.

1:32:02

The GLP could decide not to pursue it, but

1:32:04

if they do, the

1:32:07

majority of Democrats

1:32:09

support the prosecution. Wow. Now there's

1:32:11

not gonna be like a vote

1:32:13

on that. That would simply be

1:32:15

he's in contempt and they filed

1:32:17

it. Right. The leadership or the

1:32:19

the committees would file it. It

1:32:21

wouldn't be a vote on it. Did

1:32:24

I say vote? No, you did. Okay.

1:32:26

I simply was clarifying how it would be done.

1:32:28

Yeah, I was I

1:32:30

was clarifying my vague

1:32:32

state. Good. Good. Good. Yours. I

1:32:34

actually couldn't I couldn't remember if

1:32:36

I said voter. No,

1:32:39

you did not. It's

1:32:41

none of my business if I said it. Thank

1:33:08

you. It's

1:33:12

Renee Radio, he is your

1:33:15

curling, I'm Gary McNamara. I

1:33:29

love this story. Barbara Streisand freaks

1:33:32

at media for focusing on Biden's

1:33:34

age. Let's see next time Trump

1:33:36

can ride a bicycle. She

1:33:43

knows he's very wealthy, right?

1:33:48

He pays people to ride the bike for him. My

1:33:51

response would be, I want to see Biden

1:33:53

golf. I

1:33:56

want to see Biden turn around from a

1:33:58

podium and not look like a Roomba, as

1:34:02

Shane Gillis points out. I

1:34:06

it's, you know,

1:34:08

though, it is, though,

1:34:10

seriously. Um,

1:34:13

oh, yesterday, was it yesterday? I think it was yesterday.

1:34:16

I heard the barber's price and I

1:34:21

don't know, up tempo jazz version

1:34:23

of jingle bells,

1:34:26

you know, during that era of, I

1:34:28

don't know when the song was done. Mm

1:34:30

hmm. But it

1:34:33

was the jingle bells jingle bells jingle

1:34:35

all the way. We have, okay. Just

1:34:38

sing the song at, you know, she

1:34:42

actually has a great voice. Her version

1:34:44

of Ave Maria is

1:34:47

unbelievable. It'll make you cry and

1:34:49

go to church. Yes. And

1:34:52

repent and repent. But

1:34:54

that one was like, you know, it's like, uh, you

1:34:56

know, like they, she was trying out for,

1:34:59

uh, the, the, you know, the Broadway

1:35:03

version of Chicago or something. I mean, it was, I, and

1:35:05

I know it was a kind of a trend thing. And

1:35:08

probably if you're like a big, big Streisand

1:35:11

fan, you, it's like, no, it's perfect,

1:35:13

but yeah, it drove me nuts.

1:35:16

It's like pick a cadence, would you? I

1:35:22

like, I like jazz, but

1:35:25

not with jingle bells. Just,

1:35:27

wow. You know, it's really bad. I remember

1:35:29

her biggest, uh, her

1:35:32

biggest pop hit. Evergreen.

1:35:35

Okay. Second biggest pop hit. Yeah.

1:35:38

What stony end. Oh yeah.

1:35:43

Yeah. I'm remembering all these obscure

1:35:45

songs. I bought my mom the 45

1:35:49

of Evergreen for either Mother's Day

1:35:51

or her birthday. I

1:35:54

forgot about Evergreen. Yeah. Probably that my

1:35:57

mom loved that song. love

1:36:01

that song and

1:36:03

I was like

1:36:07

okay this is gonna be the perfect gift back

1:36:09

then I think was

1:36:11

way under a dollar to

1:36:13

to for a 45 I'm

1:36:18

just laughing because the desperation is just

1:36:20

amazing out there well I've never seen

1:36:22

Trump ride a bicycle I don't

1:36:27

think Trump is the bicycle that is standard for

1:36:29

president I I don't

1:36:31

I don't know well saying that Biden

1:36:34

can ride the bicycle and we don't

1:36:36

see Trump because Trump trying to imply

1:36:38

that Trump can't ride a bicycle yeah

1:36:42

that's the standard it's

1:36:45

just so bad it

1:36:48

really is right I mean it

1:36:50

really the standard the bar for

1:36:53

the liberal left you

1:36:56

know after Obama just went through the

1:36:58

floor it's just I

1:37:01

think part of the polling that you're seeing the

1:37:03

polling on Hunter and just look everybody knows we've

1:37:06

seen that we've seen the polls already the

1:37:08

Americans believe that that including

1:37:10

a significant portion of Democrats

1:37:13

that the president either did something illegal

1:37:15

or immoral when it because they view

1:37:18

influence peddling if not even rising to

1:37:20

the level of bribery yeah and a

1:37:23

felony they view it as they view

1:37:25

it as unethical that you shouldn't be

1:37:27

making you shouldn't be selling access to

1:37:29

your office right Americans as we said

1:37:32

Americans hate bribery they hit they

1:37:34

hate influence peddling what's the other thing

1:37:36

they hate oh politicians not paying

1:37:38

their taxes right and I think

1:37:40

that's maybe one of the other things too that

1:37:43

people aren't talking that people aren't talking about

1:37:45

well why would why would the

1:37:47

majority of Democrats you

1:37:50

know on this you know on this subpoena

1:37:54

why would they want if

1:37:56

the Republicans

1:38:00

go for contempt. They

1:38:02

want the Department of Justice to

1:38:04

go forward on it. I think part of the

1:38:06

reason is the fact, and I think Democrats are

1:38:08

completely underestimating this, is

1:38:11

the Department of Justice is saying

1:38:14

that Hunter didn't pay his taxes. Yeah.

1:38:17

And then you have the other story that came out

1:38:19

that said Biden's daughter,

1:38:21

she hasn't paid her tax. Right.

1:38:25

And so the wondering is, did Joe

1:38:27

Biden pay his taxes? Has

1:38:29

their family paid all the taxes that

1:38:31

they're supposed to make? Because that is

1:38:33

the height of hypocrisy. Because

1:38:36

if you look at it, Hunter Biden

1:38:38

is what Democrats, Hunter

1:38:40

Biden and the position he has been in.

1:38:43

The elite, you

1:38:46

can't get more elite than a

1:38:48

president's son or a vice president's

1:38:50

son. Right? Right.

1:38:52

Yeah. And he

1:38:55

isn't paying his taxes. And the other thing is

1:38:58

that I don't think the Democrats that the

1:39:00

administration's looking at or the Democratic Party is

1:39:02

looking at is

1:39:04

Democrats are looking at, I don't you don't see

1:39:06

anybody justifying that, you know, something with barista, they

1:39:09

should have let the statute of limitations go

1:39:12

because we shouldn't be making somebody like Hunter

1:39:14

Biden pay his taxes. Yeah.

1:39:16

Right. Nobody's saying that. No. I think

1:39:18

the whole tax element here, because that's

1:39:21

there goes to the two things Americans

1:39:23

hate bribes and influence peddling. That's where

1:39:25

you can get. And we I've stated

1:39:27

this for the longest time that

1:39:29

even Democrats will look and go, you're not

1:39:32

paying your taxes to

1:39:34

hell with you. Yeah. Right.

1:39:36

Because Americans, for the most

1:39:38

part, except

1:39:42

what Biden believes is the poor

1:39:46

pay their taxes. The poor don't

1:39:48

because that's why they're going after the poor.

1:39:50

Right. I'm

1:39:54

sorry, just enjoy saying that. But

1:39:59

when but when you think about it when

1:40:01

the when the president again is so

1:40:03

insistent on you know the six hundred

1:40:06

dollars and people paying their taxes and

1:40:08

eighty thousand IRS agents and everything else

1:40:10

and all this blowhard about we need

1:40:13

to make sure that we collect all

1:40:15

the taxes and you find out the

1:40:17

family doesn't pay its taxes and they're

1:40:20

lecturing you there's nothing that ticks off

1:40:22

Americans including a significant portion of Democrats

1:40:24

more than that though and

1:40:28

it will

1:40:30

be interesting to you

1:40:33

know watch where this hunter thing starts

1:40:36

to really fall I think the

1:40:38

Washington Post thing is

1:40:43

that threshold right or I'm

1:40:46

sorry the story they had yeah indication

1:40:48

of that threshold already being reached with

1:40:50

liberals and not in that wishful tone

1:40:53

of you know I keep

1:40:55

in mind was

1:40:58

it in 2020 you

1:41:01

know they were they were wanting the governor of

1:41:03

New York basically you know he could

1:41:05

be the guy to step in you know

1:41:07

if needed that Biden

1:41:09

couldn't be the guy but

1:41:12

that was kind of the wishful thinking that was coming

1:41:15

from you know just basically

1:41:17

the the crannled that

1:41:19

was chatter what happened

1:41:22

with the Washington Post is

1:41:24

more than that that

1:41:27

was basically the Washington Post thing okay

1:41:32

time to you know that say what's what

1:41:34

about the whole hunter thing and

1:41:36

and the Bidens and because

1:41:40

they don't really want him to be the

1:41:42

nominee the left doesn't want him to be

1:41:44

the nominee and the more the

1:41:47

worse it gets and the closer we

1:41:49

get just

1:41:51

tell me how do you put a primary season together how

1:41:56

does that work I

1:41:58

mean if he drops out of the race and

1:42:01

says I can't finish the race because

1:42:03

of health or

1:42:06

just steps up and says you know, well the

1:42:08

public has spoken. He

1:42:11

decides not to run. It's

1:42:14

Kamala Harris. Well, and she

1:42:16

was all over MSNBC yesterday. Yeah,

1:42:18

I saw that. So

1:42:21

I'm wondering, you know, her approval ratings

1:42:23

are now higher than his. I know,

1:42:25

I know. I

1:42:32

wondered when we were doing that story, I think it

1:42:34

was yesterday, it's one point. I

1:42:36

was wondering if she's walking

1:42:38

around the halls, you know, doing

1:42:41

a, with a victory smile

1:42:43

on her face basically. Because

1:42:47

that's it. You don't have time to put a

1:42:50

primary together. The

1:42:55

debate between DeSantis and Newsom was

1:42:59

horrific for Newsom. So

1:43:02

he's not the guy. Well

1:43:05

this late in the game, you don't, you can't put

1:43:07

a primary together. It's

1:43:10

Kamala Harris. So

1:43:15

yeah, because if you're going

1:43:17

to roll over her and go

1:43:21

with DeSantis, like DeSantis. Now,

1:43:29

now if that was the case, then

1:43:31

Chip Roy would be a rhino. Yeah,

1:43:34

right. DeSantis ran on

1:43:36

the Democrats. You know, look,

1:43:39

the Democratic Party has made things happen.

1:43:43

Russia collusion, they made

1:43:45

Bernie think that, you know, he had a chance at it back in

1:43:47

2016. The

1:43:51

DNC is capable of pulling off a lot

1:43:53

of things. I guess, you

1:43:56

know, if at some point. decided

1:44:00

not to run, they could

1:44:03

and Harris said no thank you, then

1:44:06

the DNC could put it

1:44:08

together and just say hey we're

1:44:11

gonna do this and you

1:44:13

know I don't know how you get the ballots together, I

1:44:15

don't know how you get it together for the states.

1:44:17

We're just, I mean we're here, we're already

1:44:20

here. So I

1:44:22

don't know how that would work. You

1:44:25

know again if they could pull off Russia

1:44:27

collusion then maybe you know along with the

1:44:29

Hillary campaign then maybe they could make this.

1:44:32

Well you could drop out at any time

1:44:34

and then your delegates simply go to the

1:44:36

next person. Which would. So

1:44:38

you don't need to be in the primary. You don't mean that

1:44:40

was the whole point. Well remember that was the whole point with

1:44:42

Andrew Cuomo back in 2020. What

1:44:46

year was that? Remember

1:44:49

that he could get in the summertime and

1:44:52

Biden's delegates would just go right to him

1:44:55

or he would be put in

1:44:57

the convention. Maybe voted

1:44:59

in the convention so you don't need to

1:45:01

go through the normal primary process. That's kind

1:45:03

of my thing but or

1:45:05

I guess my point. It

1:45:09

ignores the primary,

1:45:12

the basis for the primary process but it is

1:45:14

the exception to the rule because

1:45:18

technically it's part of the process. The

1:45:20

point would be is that you would have

1:45:22

so many liberal Democrats that

1:45:24

would feel cheated in all those states. Oh

1:45:27

yeah. If they just uttered Hillary up

1:45:29

there. I don't know how you do that. I

1:45:31

mean I know technically how you do it.

1:45:33

I don't know how you politically do that

1:45:35

without getting. Remember what happened with Bernie in

1:45:38

2016. Oh

1:45:40

you know we'll just I mean we found out

1:45:42

from the leaked emails of the DNC emails. They

1:45:45

were just basically it was instead

1:45:48

of the illusion of access.

1:45:51

It was the illusion that Bernie had a chance.

1:45:55

And then Bernie's supporters ended

1:45:57

up at the convention.

1:46:00

They were fuming for the first

1:46:02

couple of days. And then Bernie, of course, threw

1:46:04

his support behind Hillary. But I

1:46:08

think in a situation like that, let's say

1:46:10

it was Hillary, right? I

1:46:13

think it would still be, if they did it that way, I

1:46:15

think it would still be Newsom. All right.

1:46:17

Here's a question. Here's

1:46:19

a polling question for Democrats. All right. If

1:46:23

Joe Biden drops out, who

1:46:25

would you rather see as a nominee? Yeah.

1:46:28

If it had to be put together at Newsom, Newsom,

1:46:32

Harris or Hillary? I

1:46:38

think Newsom wins that. I

1:46:41

could be totally wrong though. I

1:46:43

just like to see it. Oh, I'd

1:46:45

love to see the breakdown of it. Yeah. 86690,

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1:47:17

Economist predicts 2024 will be the biggest

1:47:19

crash of our lifetime. So

1:47:22

we'll get to that and also

1:47:24

the All American Economic Survey. We

1:47:28

got to play this audio cut from Steve

1:47:30

Leisman of CNBC who is so

1:47:33

liberal and he tells us what

1:47:35

we're learning. Okay. Okay. And

1:47:38

that's why it matters. I

1:47:43

don't think it's an Axios report, but

1:47:45

it's a CNBC report. But again, what

1:47:47

I'm joking there, because

1:47:50

the CNBC report is like, whoa,

1:47:53

what we're learning is

1:47:55

prices matter to people. I

1:47:58

mean, this is the idiocy. This

1:48:01

is the idiocy that's going around right

1:48:03

now is that, well, you

1:48:07

know, we either, I can

1:48:10

see the Democrats, we either

1:48:12

need to blame the public or

1:48:16

we need to newly discover that we

1:48:19

didn't know that prices mattered to people.

1:48:21

Yeah. Hey, let's introduce

1:48:24

inflation to everyone. Let's

1:48:27

talk about prices. It's,

1:48:31

it's as

1:48:33

if it's, and by the way, that's, that is

1:48:35

the approach. I think what

1:48:37

we're learning is, and you're going to, it's just

1:48:40

insane. Well, you know, and, and you think about

1:48:42

it, uh, was the Jamie Dimon who last year

1:48:44

in 21 said, excuse me,

1:48:46

in 22 said for the time, sometime in 2023,

1:48:48

the money's going to run out

1:48:50

and when it does, that's when you're

1:48:52

going to see a real movement of

1:48:55

people furious at inflation. Yeah. And

1:48:57

you're saying now the money is

1:48:59

run out. Yep. The free

1:49:01

money. Right. Right. This

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Good morning. I'm Gary McNamara. He's

1:49:54

her curly. Merry Christmas, everybody. Merry

1:49:59

Christmas. Merry,

1:50:01

Merry Christmas. And

1:50:03

I'm saying that I'm not being sarcastic. I

1:50:05

just, I was trying to sound like the

1:50:08

guy, the narrator from Trans-Siberian. I never seen

1:50:10

him with his deep baritone voice.

1:50:12

Yeah. Merry Christmas.

1:50:17

Like shakes the entire auditorium. You're

1:50:19

like, whoa, man. What's

1:50:23

that Santa? Oh

1:50:28

man. Yeah. Let's

1:50:32

get ready. You can't say that, by the way. You

1:50:35

can't say that whole thing of, you

1:50:37

know, the rumble that you can't do that.

1:50:40

Why not? He owns

1:50:42

the rights to it. You can't

1:50:44

say it at any event. He

1:50:48

coined it legally. Okay. So,

1:50:50

okay. Yeah. Well,

1:50:53

you can say that he says it. You

1:50:55

can report that he says it. Right. We

1:50:58

can report it. You can say it at a,

1:51:00

like a venue. You couldn't say it at, we

1:51:02

couldn't put it in promos for

1:51:04

this show or anything else. For the show. Right.

1:51:08

Right. You can't, there are things, there are

1:51:10

ways you can't use it to promote

1:51:12

yourself, which I'm

1:51:14

not into anyway. So well,

1:51:17

yeah, I mean, to coin a phrase from 30

1:51:19

years ago, I don't think that, uh, well, that's

1:51:22

a good point. I don't know how many people still

1:51:24

remember it. We're still, I

1:51:29

don't care. I mean,

1:51:31

it would be, it's really, I mean, those who

1:51:33

follow fighting, I guess probably, but

1:51:35

well, can the people from rumble use it? No.

1:51:41

No, they can't, but they are. They

1:51:44

can say, let's get ready to be on rumble.

1:51:47

Oh, okay. Cause they are rumble. Yeah. Let's

1:51:51

get ready to, let's get ready to

1:51:54

be rumble. That doesn't work. Doesn't

1:51:57

flow. It's like it

1:51:59

just feels like. You just fell down trying to

1:52:01

run. Yeah, it doesn't

1:52:04

work at all. All right. We've been on this narrative for

1:52:06

the last day or two, liberals

1:52:08

trying to play stupid. Yeah.

1:52:11

All right. Here's another example. And

1:52:14

we go to CNBC, Steve Leisman. And

1:52:17

you and I've always talked about this for

1:52:21

CNBC that,

1:52:24

uh, you know, they're, they're basically, I

1:52:27

mean, they're, they're a channel for people to pay attention

1:52:29

to Wall Street, right? Uh,

1:52:32

they were at one time. That's

1:52:35

what they're supposed to be. Right. I

1:52:38

mean, if you watch it with the sound

1:52:40

off, yes. Cause you could watch the ticker

1:52:42

at the bottom. And we've always been amazed

1:52:45

at the number of Keynesian or socialist

1:52:48

economists there talking about

1:52:50

analyzing capitalism. Right. Like

1:52:52

what? Uh,

1:52:54

Steve Leisman is one of those liberal economists

1:52:56

there. Correct. Yeah.

1:52:58

Here he is yesterday playing stupid. And

1:53:01

this is what looking at CNBC

1:53:03

is all American economic survey. And

1:53:05

this is again, where he's

1:53:07

playing stupid. And

1:53:12

think about this. He's been an economist

1:53:15

professionally for what, like 37 years, something

1:53:17

like that. Probably. Yeah. Oh yeah.

1:53:19

Here we go. I think what we're

1:53:21

learning in economics from this whole process here,

1:53:24

Sarah, and I think you've been on

1:53:26

top of this as well, is the

1:53:28

notion that the rate of inflation from

1:53:30

a public opinion standpoint is much less

1:53:32

important than the price level. I

1:53:38

think what we're learning from economic. We

1:53:40

have some breaking news here

1:53:42

at CNBC.

1:53:46

We just

1:53:48

discovered through

1:53:51

a tremendous amount of effort that

1:53:54

prices or what people

1:53:57

are concerned with that the

1:53:59

consumer. I just

1:54:01

want to slow down to make sure we have

1:54:04

this right because I'm not sure I fully understand

1:54:06

it yet here as a long-time

1:54:13

Long-time analysts

1:54:15

at CNBC I just just

1:54:17

and Feel free to

1:54:19

jump in if I'm wrong at

1:54:21

the consumer Is

1:54:25

worried about Pulses

1:54:30

well, I Know

1:54:32

we have plenty of experts to bring on about

1:54:34

this because this is really going

1:54:36

to be a learning curve for a lot of

1:54:38

people, you know and and controversial it is too

1:54:41

because at first we just thought that

1:54:45

the citizens of the United States

1:54:47

out there Didn't

1:54:50

understand What was

1:54:52

really going on and what

1:54:54

we found out through this

1:54:56

CNBC survey is? Is

1:54:59

that if the

1:55:01

price of something goes up 20% or goes up excuse

1:55:03

me goes up 20 cents and the

1:55:08

rate of inflation Goes

1:55:11

from point four to point three, but

1:55:14

that point three is

1:55:17

a 20 cent increase in the price The

1:55:21

consumer is more concerned with the price

1:55:23

instead of focusing the fact that the

1:55:25

rate of inflation came down That's

1:55:28

right It's

1:55:43

so insane we

1:55:45

just found out that and

1:55:47

we're shocked because you know, we

1:55:50

were all behind Biden selling this and Talking

1:55:53

about the fact that now I will give him

1:55:55

this at least he said inflation rate He

1:55:58

did say that yeah, but we've been pounding on

1:56:00

the, I almost

1:56:02

said Obama again, the

1:56:04

Biden administration for saying that

1:56:06

inflation is coming down and no, the rate of

1:56:09

inflation is coming down. That means

1:56:11

the rate of increasing of the increase in

1:56:13

prices is going down, but it's still increasing.

1:56:16

And we've also pointed out that

1:56:19

a 3% increase in inflation

1:56:21

year to year is greater than a

1:56:26

3% increase in

1:56:28

inflation a year ago. Because

1:56:31

everything is built on that base of

1:56:33

the increasing of prices. But

1:56:36

this entire thing that we've just discovered,

1:56:38

because that's what he said that what we're learning,

1:56:40

what we're learning, he ought to be if which

1:56:42

implies by the way, he's still learning it right

1:56:44

that he didn't know that. Well,

1:56:47

I'm sorry, you're fired. You

1:56:49

work, you work at a

1:56:51

money network, and you're just realizing

1:56:53

that people are affected by

1:56:56

prices. Which

1:56:58

is, by the way, the key of economics, because

1:57:01

what is economics? It's how

1:57:03

people respond to incentive

1:57:05

and disincentive. Right. That's what

1:57:07

it is. Yep. Increasing

1:57:09

prices is a disincentive. Exactly. They

1:57:12

only respond one way. Looks

1:57:14

like he's completely clueless. All this

1:57:16

education that he had is

1:57:18

meaningless, because 37 years in the business, they're