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Previously on red Pilled America.
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What can we do to stop the spread of anti
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Semitism?
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If Candace wants to say those things about the Jews,
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she has to leave The Daily Wire.
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Claven even went as far as to equate Candas's
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actions with that of Satan.
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In fact, I felt a small investment in her.
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In large part, I kind of discovered her.
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So.
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I was born in White Plains, New York, but I was raised
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in Stamford, Connecticut.
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Cannis was expected to work from a young age.
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I received some phone calls one night, just
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really volatile, extremely racist
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voicemails.
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The political connection made the story
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go nuclear.
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A woman named Zoe Quinn reached
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out to her.
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She says, you're going to ruin everything.
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I was red pilled Instantly.
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She believed she was chosen for a mission.
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I'm Patrick Carelci.
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And I'm Adriana Cortes.
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Family Feud. If you haven't heard Part
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one, stop and go back and listen. From
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the beginning, we're
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looking for the answer to the question what can
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we do to stop the spread of anti Semitism
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by telling the story of the epic conflict between
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Candice Owans and the Daily Wire. So
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to pick up where we left off. By July twenty
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seventeen, the young Candice Owans
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had already been through a lifetime of controversy.
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As a high school senior, she made statewide
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news after fielding racial slurs
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from the son of a powerful Connecticut
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politician in the process, she
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witnessed the cold, calculated underbelly
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of the NAACP when they used
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her trauma for a photo op. A
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few years later, she unknowingly stepped
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into a culture war by challenging the credibility
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of a feminist darling, Zoe Quinn. The
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media, who Candice thought were the defenders
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of young black females, attacked her for
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daring to question Quinn's intentions. Then,
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when an up and coming filmmaker named Mike Cernovich
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reached out in her defense, she experienced
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another awakening. Google's vile
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description of Cernovich beared no resemblance
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to the man she met in person. Her
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trust in big Tech was forever shattered.
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These ordeals had Candace questioning
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everything, and an unmistakable feeling
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began sweeping over her. Candace
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thought that a higher power was preparing
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her for something bigger. After about
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a year of reflection, she decided
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to go on a mission to convince her brothers
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and sisters that they were being used. Candace
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Owens believed that to acquire and retain
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power, the Democrat Party was seeding
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a victim narrative into the minds
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of the black community.
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There is a message that I was chosen to
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deliver to the black community. I feel that, from the
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bottom of my soul, that I was picked
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to do this, That these things, these huge,
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crazy things, trying to do a good thing gone wrong,
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A random car ride with strangers I've never
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met, turning into front page news. These don't
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happen to somebody by chance. It happened to someone
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because it was preparing me for a bigger moment, a moment
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of harsh criticism.
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She thought she'd found her calling. So
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in the summer of twenty seventeen, Candace
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set up a camera, pressed record, and
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introduced herself to the world as red
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Pill.
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Black mom
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dad.
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I'm a lesbian, I like girls.
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In her debut, Candace created a video
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of her coming out to both her parents.
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She played all three roles.
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Oh sweetheart, we
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always knew. At the bottom line,
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we just want our children to be happy and we love
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you regardless, great soul. Oh
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thank you, guys.
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Also, I think I might be a conservative.
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I don't understand. I can't break Hey,
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get that camera out of my wife's face. Guys,
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guys, it's totally fine. It's okay.
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I just, you know, think a little more conservatively.
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But sweetheart, You're Black.
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Her first video went viral, and
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she was just getting started. Candace
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created short videos addressing the issues
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of feminism, transgenders in the military,
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and the myth that be helps blax.
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I don't support the Black Lives Matter
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movement whatsoever because the Black Lives
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Matter movement does not support me. I think
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at a better title for that movement would be Black
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Deaths Matter. They will pay for
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somebody's freenal, but they will not pay for somebody's
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college education.
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These videos racked up major views
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on YouTube, but it was a tragic event
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in Charlottesville, Virginia that would put
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Candice Owens on the radar of some major
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independent media platforms.
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One person is dead and nineteen injured
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after a speeding vehicle drove into a group
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of protesters marching peacefully through
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downtown Charlottesville.
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The death of an Antifa ally at a Charlottesville
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rally called Unite the Right put
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the media into overdrive.
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Groups including the Ku Kut Klan and neo
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Nazis came from across the country to
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rally against plans to remove a Confederate
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statue from a park. The violence
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included an apparent attack with a car
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on a crowd of peaceful protesters.
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The media pushed the story that races
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from across the country descended
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on the Unite the Right rally, but what they
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failed to highlight was that the so called
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white supremacist rally goers amounted
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to just a few dozen people. If
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this were all of the racists that a country of
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over three hundred million could muster, then
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the problem of racism wasn't much
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of a problem at all. It
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was obvious the media was trying to whip up
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its reliable white supremacy narrative.
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The Candice Owans wasn't taking the.
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Bait white supremacy and the
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KKK. Really, that's
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what you guys want me to be concerned with this week?
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Do I look like an idiot? I mean
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what, I think we need to hear a single thing about David
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Duke, white supremacy and the KKK
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the entire time Obama wasn't office. Do you
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think that they were all hiding underground
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waiting for the next white presidents
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meeting by the light of the moon. Use your
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brain.
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Her video again went viral. It
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is time that caught the eye of Paul Joseph Watson,
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a contributor at alex Jones's infra
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wars.
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Jeiz can this cowens? You can check
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her out on Twitter at red phil Black.
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The YouTube video, which shot
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the prominence a few days ago in the aftermath
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of Charlottesville, was entitled I don't
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care about Charlottesville, the KKK or
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white supremacy?
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Can this Welcome to the show?
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Thank you guys for having me.
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And it was in this early Alex Jones appearance
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that Candice made a confession.
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Speaking of Kanye West, do you think you're starting to
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wake up?
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He's been away a few months earlier,
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in November twenty sixteen, the rapper,
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then known as Kanye West stepped
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on a stage at a concert in San Jose and
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said something that shocked his audience
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and the media.
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I didn't quote right, but
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if I voted, voted
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or Trump.
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The president elect is getting support from an
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unexpected source, Kanye
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West.
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Kanye West told fans at a concert in
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California yesterday that had
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he voted, he would have voted
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for Donald Trump.
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The admission rocked many within the hip
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hop world. Most chalked it up to
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Kanye being Kanye, but then, oddly,
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four days later, the artist was hospitalized
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and placed on a psychiatric hold at
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the UCLA Medical Center. After
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he was released, Kanye took a trip to the
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Trump Tower in New York City for a photo
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op with the President elect.
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You've been friends for a long point
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life.
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Hi a no comment backer, meaning the president elect.
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This is the president elect of the United Slate.
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That makes to say, I just wanted to take a picture right now.
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The turn of events got the attention of Trump
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supporters that by the time Canned is
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connected with Alex Jones in the summer of
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twenty seventeen, she had already been a fan
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of the rapper for years.
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He's a genius.
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Kanye West is a genius, and he's never subscribed
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to group think. He's never subscribed to any politics.
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And I wrote very early on
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before I got involved in politics, if you consider your have a
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fan of Kanye West, there's no way that you cannot be
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supporting Donald Trump.
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There By the way, Candace, I know about your story,
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but this is riveting.
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I want to beg you to come on the Full Show sometime
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with Paul and I and share these
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stories.
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The Info War's appearance introduced Candace
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to a much wider audience, including
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popular philosophy streamer Stefan
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malin You, who at the time had an enormous
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YouTube platform.
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Stefan malling You from Free Demain Radio here with Candace
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Owens. She goes also under the name
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Red Pale Black some of the funniest videos
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barnn on the Internet. Candice, thank
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you so much for taking the time today.
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Absolutely, I'm honored to be here.
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Her early message was clear the black
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community needed to demand more of itself
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and drop the victim mentality.
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Black people have grown to accept
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the fact that they can't be more, that they
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can't be smart, they can't be better, in so much
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that they've sort of woven it into our culture
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that this is now a sign of true blackness.
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In a short amount of time, Candace had caught
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the attention of Mike Cernovich, All, Joseph
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Watson, Alex Jones, and now stuff
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on wallin You, all huge names
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in independent media. Contrary
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to what many conservative commentators
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would later claim.
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In fact, I felt a small investment in her.
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In large part I kind of discovered her.
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It was actually independent journalists
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in the new Right that first discovered
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and amplified the budding black conservative
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commentator. But it wouldn't be long before
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mainstream authorized conservatives sniffed
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a star in the making, and they wanted
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Welcome back to red Pilled America. So
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as the New Right introduced Candace Owens
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to a wider audience, mainstream authorized
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conservatives began to sniff a star
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in the making, including Fox News's
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Jesse Waters.
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Kansas was a lifelong
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Democrat but became disillusioned
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with the left after she found herself harassed
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by a prominent progressive. That's
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when she had her red Pill moment.
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We are literally like hamsters
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on a.
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Wheel, Kansas
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joins me.
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Now, so, Candace, what do you mean by a hamster
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mentality with black Americans?
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Well, with black Americans, I mean, the main issue
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is that we keep voting Democrat and
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expecting different results. And in every major
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city where Democrats are running, like Chicago,
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it's a complete mess. I mean, it's absolute disaster.
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Within hours of her appearance on Fox News,
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a hit piece landed on far left website
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Salon dot com. The writer labeled
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Candace the toxic rights newest African
11:44
American star and argued that her
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message was ridiculous because in the United
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States, racism trumps all. Even
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the left recognized she was going places.
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It was around this time that Candace caught
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the eye of political commentator Dave Rubin.
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At the time, Dave was going through a bit of
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a political shift himself. He long
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considered himself a progressive, but
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then started butting heads with his woke comrades
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on the left. As a result, he
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started rebranding himself as a champion
12:12
of free speech, a story he told
12:14
Red Pilled America in twenty twenty.
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I grew up in a Jewish family where
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you know, there's an old joke that if you have four Jews
12:21
in a room, you have five opinions. That cultural
12:24
Judaism almost like a seinfeldization
12:27
of Judaism, where it's about talking, it's
12:29
about arguing. And this is what Rabbis
12:31
have done for centuries is
12:33
argue over what does this line and the toll
12:36
roman And let's argue it out and figure out
12:38
every which way to view this well.
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I grew up in a family that at every holiday,
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whether it was a religious holiday or Thanksgiving,
12:45
a secular holiday, we would argue
12:48
about everything at a giant table with aunts
12:50
and uncles and cousins and Grandma's off
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on a table that would span into two rooms
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of forty people, and everyone would
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be screaming their opinions and blah blah blah,
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and at the end dessert would be served
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and everybody would just stop. It was
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like, Oh, you think this about abortion, you think this
13:05
about Israel, you think this about taxes,
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but here's dessert. Let it go, and
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then we do it again the next night.
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Prior to twenty sixteen, being gay
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placed Dave firmly outside of the conservative
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tent, but by the time he met Candice
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in September twenty seventeen, a change
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was already firmly underway within the mainstream
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conservative movement.
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But I believe that that gays have every
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right to exist within the conservative movement to
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make their case on why there's
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a conservative case for gay marriage.
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In twenty eleven, conservative publisher
13:38
Andrew Breitbart argued that openly
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gay right wingers should have a place in the
13:42
conservative movement, and he agreed with
13:44
this sentiment, including the future hosts
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of Red Pilled America.
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I'm looking to do everything I can to create
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e pluribus on him in this country. That's
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why I support black conservatives, I support gay
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conservatives. I am a melting pot
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guy.
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The idea initially met with resistance
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by social conservatives, but by twenty
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sixteen, a big push was underway
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to increase the conservative big tent to
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include openly gay personalities,
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and The Daily Wire appeared to lead the
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way in that charge. The burgeoning
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streaming service was one of the first on
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the right to give their seal of approval
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to Dave Rubin.
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Our next guest is here here in studio
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with us.
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Just shot a video for Peger University.
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Dave Rubin of the Ruben Report right is
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here with us and thank you for time
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for Yeah, this is very exciting.
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As a result, Dave became part of a newly
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forming media cartel that consisted
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of The Daily Wire, The Reuben Report, Pegger
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You, and a few others, and in September
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twenty seventeen, Dave Rubin welcomed
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Candae into the fold.
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And joining me today is a YouTuber
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who has done pretty much the
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scariest thing that one person can
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do. She has come out as conservative,
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the scariest of all words. Candice
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Owen's aka Red Pill Black
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Welcome to the Ruben Report.
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Thank you. I'm so happy to be here right now.
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Close watchers of her appearance could see
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this newly forming conservative cartel,
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and Candace was making the rounds amongst this
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circuit.
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You suddenly caught fire and you're
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doing pieces all over the place around the Daily Wire this
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morning.
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I saw you on Jesse Waters.
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Was it this past weekend?
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Right a couple of days ago?
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Who is this Candace person?
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Candace continued to pound home her message.
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Lax needed to give up their victim ideology.
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There was also a natural shutting of
15:28
my friends because I couldn't bear to be around,
15:31
you know, people that were constantly in the state
15:33
of victimhood who didn't want to exchange ideas.
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Her message was particularly useful to this new
15:38
circuit because she provided them a bit of a
15:40
shield. You see, with a black woman calling
15:42
out the black community. It gave this group
15:44
some protection, or at least an argument
15:47
point against accusations of racism.
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As their discussion progressed, it became clear
15:52
that key players within this ring were
15:54
testing Candace out.
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You know, I was just at the Daily Wire earlier
15:57
today and their studio, their office spaces
15:59
grown. It's fast because
16:02
the conservative movement is growing, because people
16:04
are realizing that there's nothing left for them
16:06
on the left. You either want to
16:08
race towards the bottom, because that's what it is, right, It's
16:10
I'm a bigger victim. I'm a bigger victim. I'm a bigger
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victim. I'm a bigger I'm like, what are you guys racing
16:15
again?
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Ken just took the opportunity to praise Kanye
16:18
West, almost as if she had a plan
16:20
in motion.
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People ask me, who are you a fan of? You know, I'm
16:23
only a fan of Kanye West. And the interesting thing
16:25
is popular Kanye quote is that if you're
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a fan of Kanye West, you're not really a fan of Kanye
16:30
West. You're a fan of yourself and you believe that you
16:32
can make it.
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By the end of the interview, it became evident
16:35
to anyone that was paying attention that the conservatives
16:37
were all courting the rising star.
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It was around this time, in the fall of twenty
16:42
seventeen, that one such conservative
16:44
outfit was able to pull.
16:46
Her in here to discuss Director
16:48
of Urban Development at Turning Point USA,
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Candace Owens.
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Launched in twenty twelve. Turning
16:54
Point USA is an American nonprofit
16:56
whose goal is to introduce conservatism to
16:58
high school and college to Led
17:01
by right wing political activist Charlie
17:03
Kirk. The group must have seen something in Candace
17:05
that would appeal to America's youth because
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they decided to harness her energy to
17:10
make a pitch to Black America.
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The main issue is that we keep voting
17:17
Democrat and expecting different results,
17:19
and the second that they get into the White House, they do absolutely
17:22
nothing for African Americans but make
17:24
sure that we remember that we're black so
17:26
they can play the same identity card the next election
17:28
cycle. The Democratic Party brought us slavery,
17:30
they brought us the KKK, they brought us Jim Crow
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Laws.
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Candace began to saturate mainstream
17:36
conservative media, and it got the eye
17:38
of one person on the planet, for which Candace
17:40
called herself a fan. On April twenty
17:42
first, twenty eighteen, Kanye
17:45
West posted on the then Twitter platform.
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I love the way candas soul sphinks.
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It's hard to exaggerate the magnitude
17:54
of this endorsement. It was a cultural
17:57
atomic bomb. At
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the time, Kanye West was viewed as one
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of those rare individuals that's globally
18:04
heralded as an artistic genius, whether
18:07
it be his music, or his fashion sense,
18:10
or his natural ability to turn a small act
18:12
into a global controversy.
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George Bush doesn't care about black people.
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Go Taylor, I'm really happy
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for you. I'll let you finish. Brabianta
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had one of the best videos of all.
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Time, controversies and all. In
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the spring of twenty eighteen, Kanye
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West was globally regarded as an
18:29
artist's artist. His endorsement
18:31
of Candas's Mind gave her a
18:33
pop culture legitimacy that few
18:35
and conservative media had ever enjoyed.
18:38
Candace understood the significance of the moment
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and responded to Kanye saying, quote,
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I'm freaking out, Kanye West.
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Please take a meeting with me. I tell
18:48
every single person that everything I have been
18:50
inspired to do was written in your music.
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I am my own biggest fan because
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you made it Okay. I need you to
18:57
help wake up the black community. Right
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wingers immersed in the culture understood
19:03
the power of what was happening the political
19:06
commentator Ben Shapiro was of a
19:08
different mind.
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Because people are famous, we then grant them
19:11
a certain level of credibility on other issues. So
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the latest example of this is Kanye West. So,
19:15
believe it or not, the right is now resonating
19:18
to Kanye West. So now he's tweeting out deep thoughts,
19:20
and the right is so excited. They're so excited because
19:22
Kanye West is tweeting out things that sound kind
19:24
of right wing, like he tweeted out that he supports Candice
19:26
Owns.
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It should come as no surprise that conservative
19:29
commentator Ben Shapiro was not particularly
19:32
a fan of Kanye West or this
19:34
cultural moment. Ben had long
19:36
been critical of hip hop as an art form, but
19:39
adding to that context was that Ben
19:41
is an Orthodox Jew, and the Jewish
19:43
community had a watchful eye on this
19:45
global superstar.
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We ain't Jewish. We don't get family
19:49
that got money like that.
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A few years earlier, during a twenty thirteen
19:56
appearance on the popular hip hop radio
19:58
show The Breakfast Club, Kanye discussed
20:01
the lack of successful black fashion designers
20:03
and billionaires.
20:04
We don't get it like that.
20:05
When I tell you only seven black billionaires,
20:07
look at that marginalization.
20:09
During his explanation for why Blacks
20:11
had relatively no financial power, he
20:14
said something that the Jewish community deemed
20:16
as anti semitic.
20:18
Man, let me tell you something about George
20:20
Bush and.
20:20
Oil money and Obama and no money.
20:23
People want to say Obama can't
20:25
make these moves or he's not executing that's cause
20:27
he ain't got those connections. Black people
20:29
don't have the same level of connections as Jewish
20:31
people. Black people don't have the same connection
20:34
as oil people. You know, we don't know nobody
20:37
that got a nice house. You know, we don't know
20:39
nobody with paper like that we could go to when
20:41
we down.
20:42
To any honest listener, the statement
20:44
was obviously true. It was such a matter
20:46
of fact not a single person in the room
20:48
gasped when he said it. Kanye simply
20:51
acknowledged that the black community wasn't
20:53
as connected in the moneyed circles as the
20:55
white or Jewish communities, something
20:57
any Black American in the music industry
20:59
of the time could co sign. Nevertheless,
21:02
the Anti Defamation League or ADL,
21:04
a Jewish advocacy group, immediately
21:06
claimed Kanye was fueling a classic
21:08
anti Semitic stereotype. A representative
21:11
of the ADL issued a statement stating,
21:13
quote, this.
21:14
Is classic anti semitism. There
21:16
goes again the age old canard
21:19
the Jews are all powerful and control
21:21
the levers of power in the government. As
21:23
a celebrity with a wide following, Kanye
21:25
West should know better. We hope that he
21:27
will take responsibility for his words,
21:30
understand why they are so offensive,
21:32
and apologize to those he has offended.
21:35
It appeared the organization was employing
21:37
a specific tactic stop
21:39
the advance of any and all discussions
21:41
that even remotely hinted at being anti
21:43
Semitic. Well, Jewish outlets
21:46
amplified the ADL statement. MTV
21:49
News eventually picked up the story, forcing
21:51
Kanye to address the controversy.
21:53
I don't know how being told that you have
21:55
money is like an insult.
21:58
That would be like if like some I complimented
22:01
like black guys said all
22:03
black guys got big penises. I
22:05
thought by saying like everyone
22:07
had money, I thought that was a compliment. So it's like an
22:09
ignorant compliment. So maybe I would
22:11
like take that statement away.
22:13
Kanye acquiesced to the ADEL, but
22:15
the initial statement, no doubt conveyed a
22:18
belief that the rapper had about Jewish
22:20
financial power. That's all to
22:22
say that. In April twenty eighteen, when
22:24
Ben Shapiro was skeptical about Kanye
22:26
West embracing Candace's conservative
22:28
beliefs, it's not much of a leap to think
22:31
that Ben's own religious alliances had
22:33
colored his view of the rapper.
22:34
He tweeted out that he supports candae Own's, candae
22:37
Own's nice gallon friendly, Candas's
22:39
she works to Charlie Kirk over a turning point USA, she's
22:42
a black conservative, and Kanye West tweeted
22:44
out that he likes how she thinks that the right responded
22:46
to Kanye West as though it was an earth shattering
22:49
thing and a big celebrity like Kanye West
22:51
was saying things that remotely conservative. But I
22:53
would just warned folks on the right, you
22:55
know, you can be happy that Kanye West said something that
22:58
seems to be conservative, So let's not attend
23:00
to Kanye West as some sort of genius.
23:02
Okay.
23:02
Then Shapiro was skeptical about Kanye's
23:04
embrace of conservative ideas, but
23:07
the rapper was about to double and triple
23:09
down over
23:17
the coming weeks. Kanye went on
23:19
a Maga charm offensive knowing
23:22
that the paparazzi follows him everywhere he goes,
23:25
Kanye went out in public wearing a
23:27
red make America grat Again hat.
23:29
He even tweeted out a picture of a MAGA
23:31
hat with President Trump's signature on it.
23:34
The media and some within the black community
23:36
were outraged. Kanye responded,
23:39
stating, in part on Twitter quote.
23:41
You don't have to agree with Trump, but the
23:43
mob can't make me not love him.
23:45
Trump, one of the savviest cultural
23:47
influencers in political history, quickly
23:50
understood the enormity of the moment and
23:52
took the opportunity to praise Kanye
23:54
West at a Michigan rally.
23:56
African American unemployment has
23:59
reached the low level in
24:01
history, in history,
24:04
and by the way, Deel Farness,
24:07
Kanye West gets it, he gots
24:09
it, he gets
24:11
it.
24:12
Kanye returned Bali releasing a
24:14
single the positioned President Trump as
24:16
an inspiration. Days later,
24:18
Kanye was seen with Candice Owans and
24:21
the two started a kind of a mental
24:23
marriage. They made a joint appearance
24:25
on themed gossip Brag TMZ, and
24:28
the outlet couldn't help but discuss Kanye's
24:30
recent embrace of the MAGA movement.
24:33
I want to.
24:33
Start with what everybody is talking about,
24:36
because I don't think people necessarily
24:38
understand what happened last
24:41
week with the Making America Great Again hat What
24:50
drove you to that? What was your point? What
24:52
are you trying to do with the message you're
24:54
sending.
24:54
People say feel free, but they don't really want
24:57
us to feel free.
24:58
And I felt a freedom.
25:00
And first of all, just doing something
25:03
that everybody tells you not to do, like
25:06
you can't do it for this reason, you can't do this for that
25:08
reason. So and you know, I'm not coming
25:10
up here to justify anything.
25:14
It's you know, you can't tell
25:16
me nothing.
25:16
I made the song, you know what I'm saying, Like, you can't
25:18
tell me what I'm supposed to do.
25:21
And also it's like the
25:24
idea of icons and representations.
25:27
You know, I don't don't.
25:28
I don't subscribe to icons
25:31
you take like the Nazi symbol. If
25:33
you go to India, it's all over
25:35
the place, but it doesn't represent that.
25:36
It represents something different.
25:38
In the Hindu and Buddhist religions of India,
25:40
the swastika represents good fortune
25:43
and well being. It's a positive symbol.
25:45
Kanye was attempting to explain the dichotomy
25:47
that, like the swastika, the maga hat
25:50
can mean different things to different people.
25:52
So for me to wear that hat means
25:55
I want to make America great
25:57
in my own way.
26:06
He'd later bring Candace Owens into the conversation.
26:09
And Candace has facts she's research.
26:11
To Candace Owens has fact she's
26:13
research.
26:14
Her media blitz with Kanye caught the eye
26:16
of the White House, and a few weeks later,
26:18
Candace and Charlie Kirk met with the President.
26:21
By the summer of twenty eighteen, Candace
26:24
was getting so hot that even a skeptical
26:26
Ben Shapiro could no longer ignore her
26:28
rise. He looked to capture some of
26:30
her energy for his burgeoning streaming network,
26:32
The Daily Wire.
26:33
It's really exciting to have you here, Glad you could sueeze
26:36
in the time, because you guys have been busy setting
26:38
the world on fire. I mean, you're in the headlines, and
26:40
you're all over Twitter obviously and on social media.
26:42
Use the candas you've just exploded onto the scene. I think
26:44
probably a year and a half ago, nobody knew who
26:46
you were, and now everybody knows who you
26:48
are, so how's that been, that sort of precipitous rise.
26:50
It's been challenging in some ways.
26:53
I guess Candace was understanding the media
26:56
game at a level few had experienced
26:58
firsthand. And she also so started
27:00
to learn how a single tweet could make
27:02
national news. She decided
27:04
to apply that lesson on Twitter, and when
27:07
she did, she'd get her first taste
27:09
of where the real taboo area resided
27:11
in American politics.
27:15
Welcome back to red pilled America.
27:21
So by the late summer twenty eighteen, Candace
27:23
Owans was learning that with a single tweet
27:26
she could make national news. She
27:28
decided to apply that lesson by running
27:30
an experiment of sorts on the musings
27:32
of a prominent liberal writer. In
27:34
August twenty eighteen, the New York Times
27:37
announced the addition of Sarah Jong,
27:39
a technology writer, to their editorial
27:41
board. With an hour's Jung's old
27:43
anti white tweets began spreading on Twitter.
27:46
In one instance, Jung tweeted.
27:48
White people are booked like
27:50
dogs pissing on fire hydrants hashtag
27:53
council. White people are white people
27:55
genetically predisposed to burn faster
27:57
in the sun.
27:58
Candace saw an opportunity to expose
28:00
the bias on Twitter, so she copied
28:03
the text on the tweet and replaced each instance
28:05
of the word white with the word Jewish.
28:08
She did the same thing with another of Jung's anti
28:10
white tweets, but in that instance replaced
28:12
the word white with black. Almost
28:14
immediately, Twitter gave her a twelve
28:17
hour suspension and demanded she delete
28:19
the tweet that included the Jewish reference.
28:22
Oddly, Twitter allowed Candace's
28:24
anti black tweet to remain. The
28:26
company also allowed Sarah Jung's
28:28
anti white tweets to remain on the platform.
28:30
The lesson was eye opening. It was Candace's
28:33
first lesson that there was a taboo subject
28:35
that could get you canceled. But
28:44
Candace didn't have much time to ponder
28:46
this insight because she was working on
28:48
something bigger, a movement to free
28:50
the black community from what she viewed as a
28:52
mental prison. Candace alluded
28:55
to the new project in an August twenty
28:57
eighteen interview.
28:58
I'm working really hard in launching a project in
29:00
a month that is going to be specifically aimed
29:02
at the black community and getting them engaged.
29:04
And while she was preparing for her big announcement,
29:07
her new brother in arms was doing
29:09
his part to help lead the way.
29:10
Kanye is great to be made and
29:13
then Kanye has been a friend of mine for a long time.
29:16
In mid October twenty eighteen, donning
29:18
a red Make America Great Again hat, Kanye
29:20
West visited President Trump in the Oval
29:22
Office. As a gaggle of reporters
29:24
watched on. The two exchanged
29:27
pleasantries.
29:27
Let me ask you this question.
29:29
You're in the Oval Office.
29:30
Okay, how does.
29:31
It field it in the Oval Office?
29:32
Oh?
29:33
It is good energy in and a good energy
29:35
yet.
29:38
But then Kanye went on a diatribe
29:40
that went against just about every signature
29:42
issue on the Democrat platform. He
29:44
spoke about black on black crime and
29:47
we also as.
29:47
Black people, we have to take a responsibility.
29:49
For what we're doing.
29:50
We killed each other more than
29:53
police officers.
29:54
He talked about the Second Amendment.
29:56
We have the rights of bear arms.
29:58
He spoke about bringing manufacturing back
30:00
to America.
30:01
Or we can create some factories. Now.
30:03
I think it would be cool for them.
30:04
To be Trump factories, because he's a master of
30:06
industry, He's a builder.
30:08
Kanye talked about how Democrats controlled the
30:10
black community.
30:11
The liberal would try to control a black
30:13
person through the concept of racism because
30:15
They know that we are very.
30:16
Proud of emotional people.
30:17
So when I said I like Trump to like someone
30:19
that's liberal, they'll say, oh, but he's racist.
30:22
You think racism could control me.
30:24
But perhaps most frightening to the media
30:26
and DC establishment was that Kanye
30:29
praised President Trump.
30:30
You know, they tried to scare me to not
30:33
wear his hat.
30:33
My own friends with his hat, it
30:36
gives me, it gives me power
30:38
away.
30:38
It was something about when I put this hat on and
30:41
made me feel like Superman.
30:43
But I love this guy right here.
30:44
Let me give this guy I love right here.
30:48
I love this.
30:49
Guy right here.
30:49
True.
30:50
Well, the media didn't know how to handle
30:52
the spectacle. He didn't want to cover it, but
30:54
they had to, so they attempted to portray
30:57
Kanye as crazy.
30:58
A surreal day White House Kanye
31:01
West in the Oval Office Today, unfiltered
31:03
and unapologetic. For more than
31:05
ten minutes, the controversial rapper delivering
31:07
a frenetic, at times jarring monologue.
31:10
Rappers meandering monologue touched on
31:12
more than a dozen topics for presidents,
31:14
seemed almost at a loss for words.
31:16
I'll tell you what, that was a pretty ross.
31:20
About two weeks later, in late October, twenty
31:22
eighteen, Candae introduced her movement
31:24
to America with an assist by Kanye
31:27
West.
31:27
Today in this room, I'm so excited because
31:29
we are going to launch in front of the world a movement,
31:32
a movement that will forever be remembered as
31:34
a piece of American history, a
31:37
movement called Blexit. The
31:39
Black Exit, the
31:43
Black exits from permanent
31:45
victimhood, the Black exit from the false
31:48
idea that we are somehow separate from the rest
31:50
of America. The Blexit movement will
31:52
spend twenty nineteen holding
31:54
rallies in every major city in America
31:56
that the Democrats have destroyed. Blexit
31:58
is a renaissance, and I'm blocked to say that
32:01
this logo, these colors
32:04
were created by my dear friend
32:06
and fellow superhero, Kanye West, who
32:10
has taken one of the boldest
32:12
steps in America to open a conversation
32:15
that we have needed to have.
32:24
The announcement immediately grabbed the attention
32:27
of conservative media.
32:28
I have to talk about this walk away
32:30
movement that went. The walk Away March happened
32:32
over the weekend.
32:33
Daily Wires Andrew Claven praised Candace's
32:36
efforts.
32:36
And kandas Owns was also there with what she
32:39
is calling hilariously Blexit, which
32:41
is the black exit from the
32:43
Democrat Party. And it was really moving.
32:45
I mean, thousands of people showed up for the march,
32:47
but also to see the young
32:50
black political leaders who showed up
32:52
for meeting personal meeting with President Trump
32:54
and were so thrilled to see him and were so pro
32:56
American.
32:57
Fox News also jumped on the bandwagon.
33:00
So explain for us what blecks it is
33:02
and how you came up with the idea.
33:04
You were watching a television and.
33:05
I came up with it actually backstage at Sea Path.
33:08
I got slammed out of hearing Trump's speak
33:10
because I was too late to go to the doors, and I was shoved
33:12
into this tiny little room with Nigel Farage
33:14
and we were watching the president speak. I
33:16
looked up and I said, oh, that's the guy who did
33:18
the Brexit thing. And I said, we really need a
33:21
Blexit in America.
33:23
And there it was.
33:24
The idea was watched.
33:25
The one two punch of Kanye and Candice
33:27
was a monumental moment for the conservative
33:29
movement. One of the biggest artistic
33:32
stars on the planet teamed up with a rising
33:34
black conservative woman to deliver a message
33:37
that Democrats had been censoring for decades.
33:40
It was obvious that these two were uncontrollable.
33:49
Perhaps that was why the conservative
33:52
gatekeepers were reluctant to let them
33:54
in. But
33:56
it didn't matter, because they smashed through
33:58
the door. Efforts were moving
34:01
the needle in unprecedented ways, and
34:03
that's why this Blexit movement had
34:05
to be stopped or at least regulated.
34:09
Inter Media Matters, a far left
34:11
nonprofit organization that is dedicated
34:13
to taking down Conservatives. A
34:15
writer from that organization took a snippet
34:18
of a Candace owned statement and used
34:20
it to paint the Blexit founder as a Hitler
34:23
sympathizer. At a late twenty
34:25
eighteen event in London, Candace was asked
34:27
why so many people appeared to be afraid
34:29
of the word nationalism.
34:31
I actually don't have any problems at all with
34:33
the word nationalism. I think that the definition gets
34:35
poisoned by laitist that actually
34:37
want globalism. Globalism is what I don't
34:39
want. So when you think about whenever we say nationalism,
34:42
the first thing people think about, in at least in America
34:44
is Hitler. You know, he was a national socialist.
34:46
But if Hitler just wanted to make Germany
34:49
great and have things run well. Okay, fine,
34:51
The problem is that he had dreams
34:53
outside of Germany. He wanted to globalize.
34:56
It was clear to any honest observer that
34:58
Candace was simply saying that Hitler
35:00
gave nationalism it's negative slant.
35:03
But the truth didn't matter because
35:05
in just a few weeks Candice would
35:07
be put through a cleansing process that opened
35:09
her eyes to an invisible hand within
35:12
conservative media.
35:13
Coming up on Red Pilled America, I believe
35:16
we met in two thousand and ten.
35:18
That's right.
35:19
Another friend of mine who attended the Bible.
35:21
Study invited me to this secret
35:23
Hollywood meeting of conservatives
35:26
called Friends of Any.
35:27
Critics of the Never Trump movement have been out in force,
35:29
and they're trying to browbeat those of us who don't
35:32
support Trump into embracing this demagogic,
35:34
ladmouth moron with tyrannical views of governments
35:37
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35:40
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