Tho and Ford take a meandering tour through religion and politics as Ford tries to articulate the difficulties of having nice manners when addressing political opponents. How rude is too rude? From John Adams and John Dickinson to John the Revelator with some some detours into Florida's political landscape, Ford and Tho have a pretty languid stroll through Church and State with no clear answers. Definitely more of a porch discussion, so grab some hot cider and stay warm.