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Hello, I'm
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your host, Mr. Chuck, I retired
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accountant turned truck driver,
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I reduce my debt in a relatively
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short period of time, debt
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reduction, to achieve financial
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freedom takes commitment,
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confidence, determination.
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Continuing months debt reduction
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tips, the process of paying down
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or off debt is never ending.
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Keeping the goals and
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information in front of eyes is
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important to achieve this goal,
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what to do when something goes
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wrong, do not give up, adjust
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and overcome is the order of the
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day. If you're starting into
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this process, and you're fairly
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new, maybe only been doing it
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for a few months to three
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months, and you really hadn't
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make any progress on your debt.
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But you're already thinking,
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when I get my credit cards paid
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off, I don't have to do all
1:04
this. Or once I get my credit
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cards and my car loans paid off,
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then I don't have to continue
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doing this. And what I'm talking
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about is continuing doing your
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tracking on all your income and
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all your expenses. And then
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continuing doing your monthly
1:24
budget and updating at least a
1:24
weekly basis. So you're aware of
1:31
what's going on in your personal
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finances. That never really
1:36
stops if you're serious about
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reducing your debt, and, most
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importantly, trying to stay out
1:42
of debt. At the bare minimum,
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you should try to no longer have
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credit card balances. That
1:55
should be your goal. Once you
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get them paid down to zero and
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you get some other debt paid off
1:59
and your increase your emergency
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fund. And you're doing all these
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things in your getting better
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off in your financial life,
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perhaps you're gonna buy another
2:11
home, that's gonna cost more,
2:11
perhaps you want to buy that new
2:15
car, you always want it,
2:15
whatever the case is still have
2:21
to keep your finances under
2:21
control. And you have to plan
2:27
for whatever it is you want to
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do in your life. Whether it's in
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the near future, or distant
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future, whether it's saving more
2:39
money to for your college or
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your children's college tuition,
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or increase in your savings for
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your retirement. So you can
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retire at an early age, or buy
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that second home vacation home
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or whatever it is you're wanting
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to do. You still have to do
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everything that you're doing now
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it never ever stops. So let's
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talk about the reason for that.
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Let's say that you get your
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credit cards paid off, but you
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still have two car payments, a
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line of credit and a mortgage.
3:15
That's still pretty significant
3:19
amount of debt. But you're
3:19
getting yourself in better
3:23
financial shape. You no longer
3:23
living paycheck to paycheck, you
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feel like you're doing much
3:28
better. But this thing if you
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didn't have those two car
3:32
payments, how much better will
3:35
you be doing? How big is your
3:35
emergency fund. So if you
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continue doing your tracking,
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and you continue in doing your
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monthly budget, and you're
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updating the actual numbers on
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your monthly budget every week,
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so you got an eye on what's
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going on, and you look for
3:51
things to reduce your spending,
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and you're keeping those type of
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spending under control. And you
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planning ahead on large
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purchases, you're saving up some
4:06
money before you make a large
4:06
purchase so you have a bigger
4:11
down payment so you can finance
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last or maybe not even finance
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at all depending on how big of a
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purchase you're doing. So your
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emergency fund as your debt is
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being reduced. your emergency
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fund should be increasing. Your
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goal for your emergency fund is
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to have three to six months
4:31
minimum of your expenses and
4:37
your savings account in case
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something bad would happen. And
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something bad would be losing
4:40
your job being laid off being
4:45
injured where you can't work.
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And you don't have any sick
4:49
leave, things like that you're
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planning for a bad event that
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happened in your life and you're
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have the financial resources to
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pay your bills until you can
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recover. And that recovery
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period, the longer you have, the
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better off, you're gonna be. If
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you have six months, you're
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gonna be much better off than if
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you only have three months. So
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let's do a scenario, let's say
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that you and your spouse are
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working, you're making a good
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income 150,000 plus a year, you
5:17
buy a nice home, you got two
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nice cars. When I say nice, I'm
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really saying expensive. Now you
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have a $2,000 a month mortgage,
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you have two car payments of
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seven or 887 $800 each. Plus
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you, you know, are going out to
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dinner and you're having a good
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time and you're entertaining
5:45
people and you're doing all
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kinds of spending. And then you
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decide to have children, well,
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that's gonna change everything.
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And so you have two children.
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Well, now we want to set up a
5:58
college fund and start saving
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for that. And plus all the costs
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associated with having children
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and your stone, you know, you're
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getting by, but you're getting
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closer to that paycheck to
6:10
paycheck scenario. But you still
6:10
have enough money in your
6:14
savings account, if something
6:14
bad would happen. So everything
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is still good, you're doing
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good. So maybe then you decide
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I'm gonna buy this boat, because
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my kids are going to be old
6:23
enough. And we can teach them
6:23
how to waterskiing. And whatever
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the case, whatever your thinking
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is, and that's a way you can
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then have spend time with your
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children's on this boat. So you
6:36
buy a boat, and you get in now
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you're starting to struggle.
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Now, you're kind of living
6:40
paycheck to paycheck, but you're
6:43
in denial, you're thinking that
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you still doing all right,
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because I'm gonna get a pay
6:47
raise here in another couple
6:50
months, I'll be fine. But then
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your wife comes home one day and
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says I don't want to work no
6:55
more. I want to quit my job, and
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I want to raise my kids, I want
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to spend time with them while
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they're little etc. So you
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agree, now you're struggling.
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Now you're kind of overdrawn,
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because he still got those two
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car payments, or almost paid
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off, but they're not. So he
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still got that money going out,
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he got that new boat payment, he
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got that expensive house
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payment, plus all the expense or
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additional expenses for diapers
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or whatever for the children,
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and buying them clothes and all
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this kind of stuff. So now your
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emergency fund is starting to
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shrink down. So you get to the
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point where maybe you only have
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$500 or $1,000 in your savings
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account. So now you're really on
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getting to the Dire Straits part
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of your life, you still need to
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watch your spending even more
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because you have less income and
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you have the debt based on a
7:56
higher income. So what do you
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do? Well, we have to adjust, we
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have to cut back spending
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somewhere to free up some money
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to cover some of these expenses,
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because he's still working full
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time making a good income, but
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it's just not quite enough. What
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can we do? Do you need two cars?
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Can you get by with one cars?
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Can you sell one item, pay it
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off and get rid of that alone,
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then that will free up some
8:22
cash, maybe might consider
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selling that boat, you want it
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so bad. Because now you're
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really at the level where you
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may not be able to afford it.
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And if you sell one card, will
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you have enough money to pay the
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other one off, so he didn't have
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no car loans. Now these are type
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of things you have to consider
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when you're going through this
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process. But all the time this
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is happening. You're tracking
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your income and your expenses.
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You're watching your budget,
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you're cutting back on spending
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wherever you can you watch your
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grocery bills, you move watch
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how much gasoline you put in
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your car, I could fill my car up
9:03
not once a month. But why put
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all the money in my car when I
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can put $20 in there twice a
9:13
month, and then run it down a
9:13
little bit. And then I'm not
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putting all my money into my gas
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tank. That's the way I think.
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But that's the type of things
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you got to do because an extra
9:25
20 or 30 or $40 that you put
9:25
don't put in your gas tank to go
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to buy in some groceries. And
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feeding your children may be
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more important than have extra
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gas in your car that you may not
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use right away and might be
9:37
there an extra week or so that
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you can put in some more later
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as needed
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instead of now when you want
9:46
instead of filling up so that's
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the type of planning you have to
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do. And you have to adjust as
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your life as you go through life
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when things To change and your
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income is reduced, then you have
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to look at ways to reduce your
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spending, and maybe get rid of
10:05
something that you can't no
10:09
longer afford. You notice I
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didn't say get rid of the house
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because you need a place to
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live. But if you get in real
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dire straits, and you're living
10:17
on using credit cards to pay
10:20
your bills, and you're just
10:20
digging yourself in a deeper
10:23
hole, may be selling your house,
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if you have equity in it, paying
10:28
off the mortgage, and then
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buying a less expensive home
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with a smaller mortgage may be
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the way to go, based on your new
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lifestyles and your new
10:39
circumstances, because things
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change throughout your life. And
10:43
nothing ever remains the same.
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The other scenario is you're
10:48
renting an apartment, and it's
10:52
$500 a month and you're making
10:52
30,000 a year you graduated from
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college recently, and you're
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looking for a new job. And then
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within six months, you get a new
11:01
job. Now you're making 50,000 a
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year and another six months, you
11:06
get a pay raise, you're making
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60,000 a year, and you don't
11:09
like working for that play. So
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you're looking around, you get
11:13
another job, a new job, now
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you're making 75,000 a year and
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you're still living in that
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apartment, and you're saving up
11:20
your money and you're doing
11:24
everything good. And you didn't
11:24
buy a new car because you always
11:28
had a company car. So you didn't
11:28
need to buy a car and you so you
11:32
have an old used car that you
11:32
use for personal use, or between
11:37
jobs. Now you're at the point
11:37
where you're looking, again,
11:42
thinking about getting married
11:42
and you want to buy a home and
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what do you do? On this
11:45
particular case, you have plenty
11:50
of emergency fund savings built
11:50
up because your incomes
11:54
increased. But your spending
11:54
stayed the same. As far as your
11:59
living expenses and your
11:59
transportation and maybe you're
12:03
going out to eat more often. But
12:03
you can afford it. And you get
12:08
engaged, you get married now you
12:08
need a home, what do you do?
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Well, the first thing is you
12:12
don't want to buy something you
12:17
cannot afford. Don't buy that
12:17
home your wife wants. Because
12:24
it's in the right neighborhood,
12:24
it's the right style house or
12:28
whatever the case is close to
12:28
her parents, or parents are
12:33
fairly well off and you really
12:33
can't afford that neighborhood.
12:38
You know, you got to take your
12:38
income and consideration before
12:42
you consider buying a house. How
12:42
much can you afford? And what
12:48
areas would that open up for you
12:48
to look at. So don't even look
12:53
at the houses you can afford.
12:53
Because there's no long, no
12:57
reason to dream for about things
12:57
you're not going to be able to
13:01
afford at this point in your
13:01
life. So buy a house that has
13:06
maybe in a neighborhood your
13:06
wife don't like but she can
13:10
tolerate it because it's closer
13:10
to her parents. But it's more
13:14
affordable, you don't have to
13:14
struggle, maybe it's a fixer
13:18
upper and you can do the
13:18
painting and some of the stuff
13:21
on your own save some money and
13:21
then the major stuff you have
13:25
contracted out as you get your
13:25
tax refunds because you now you
13:30
got your mortgage interest and
13:30
your real estate taxes dried off
13:33
so you're gonna get a big tax
13:33
refund and all this kind of
13:38
stuff comes into play. And then
13:38
when you live there for four or
13:42
five years or maybe a little bit
13:42
longer, and then you're got a
13:46
couple more pay raise and now
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you're making 150,000 a year
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instead of 75,000 and your wife
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stole work in and you got a
13:55
bunch of money in your savings
13:55
account and you got your six
13:58
months emergency fund build up
13:58
and then a much more than that.
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And if you could sell this house
14:04
because you now have got some
14:08
equity in it because you fixed
14:08
it up it's much nicer and of
14:11
course inflation and everything
14:11
else and you can sell it and
14:16
have $30,000 Extra and then add
14:16
to that for a down payment now
14:24
you can get a little bit closer
14:24
to that house your wife wanted a
14:27
little bit five years ago you
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know get a little bit bigger
14:31
home little bit nicer
14:31
neighborhood whatever the case
14:35
and move up and to it instead of
14:35
trying to buy something you
14:41
can't afford and and struggling
14:41
and then perhaps losing that.
14:45
Work your way up to it and be
14:45
consistent and conservative on
14:51
your finances, and you'll be
14:51
much better off you did so I'll
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be back in one moment with my
14:55
final thoughts. If you're
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15:10
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15:15
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15:15
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15:20
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15:58
tips, I have back a couple
15:58
episodes, I talked about paying
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off your credit cards. And when
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you get that first one, pay it
16:06
off, don't close it. The reason
16:06
you don't close is because it'll
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hurt your credit score, if you
16:10
have less credit, based on your
16:17
income, and you're gonna have a
16:17
worst credit score, so if you
16:22
can leave it open, if they don't
16:22
answer it on you, then leave it
16:26
open and don't use it. But down
16:26
the road within three months or
16:30
six months, that credit card
16:30
company is gonna send you an
16:35
offer probably in the mail maybe
16:35
mailed who knows, given you the
16:39
opportunity to transfer some
16:39
money from other credit cards,
16:45
that's what we're talking about,
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on to hear a transfer of
16:49
balance, and for say three or 5%
16:49
fee for the transfer fee, and
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then give you 12 months or 18
16:56
months of no interest. And
17:02
that's when you're gone to start
17:02
using this credit card, you need
17:07
to figure out how much money you
17:07
can pay towards that credit card
17:13
on a monthly basis, times 18
17:13
months. And that's the amount of
17:18
money you transfer over. Paula,
17:18
it's gonna cost you a little bit
17:22
more than that because of the
17:22
fee for the transferring the
17:26
balance fee. But that's really
17:26
no big deal. Within a couple
17:31
months, the interest you save on
17:31
not paying interest on the other
17:35
credit card, because you're
17:35
going to take off your highest
17:39
interest credit card, you're
17:39
going to actually make save
17:45
enough money on not paying
17:45
interest to cover that fee for
17:51
the transfer. So it's gonna be a
17:51
win win situation. And then you
17:56
make that monthly payment for 18
17:56
months. And the important part
18:00
here is you must get paid off
18:00
before the end of that 18
18:05
months. So they don't come back
18:05
and charge you a bunch of
18:09
interest for whatever the fine
18:09
print says, I keep thinking is
18:14
they're going to charge me
18:14
interest from day one for the
18:17
all the whole balance for the
18:17
whole year and a half if you
18:20
don't get it completely paid
18:20
off. So I always paid it off
18:24
before the end of that process.
18:24
If you want to be a little
18:28
conservative and go a little bit
18:28
later, beloved smaller amount,
18:32
that's fine. And then once it's
18:32
the zero again, they send you
18:37
another offer, you can do it
18:37
again. And then you get another
18:40
credit card paid off. Now what
18:40
you want to do is you never want
18:45
to close your credit cards down
18:45
unless they cancel them on you.
18:50
Because the more credit you have
18:50
available, based on your income,
18:55
your income, the credit ratio is
18:55
getting better. So your credit
19:01
score is improving. And why is
19:01
that important? It's important
19:06
because your insurance rates are
19:06
based on your credit rating. And
19:11
the worst credit rating you
19:11
have, the more they're going to
19:14
charge you for insurance,
19:14
whether it's car insurance,
19:17
homeowners insurance, whatever
19:17
insurance you're trying to buy.
19:21
So that is important because of
19:21
that. And then when you don't
19:25
want to go out and maybe buy
19:25
another home or new home or car,
19:31
the better your credit rating
19:31
the better rate of interest you
19:34
can get on that new loan down
19:34
the road. It's important to keep
19:40
your credit cards at a zero
19:40
balance and it's important to
19:44
use them like cash. If you treat
19:44
him like cash, and you don't buy
19:50
something, unless you can pay
19:50
for it right away. Not next pay
19:55
day or two pay days from now,
19:55
but you already have the money
19:59
available to pay for it, then
19:59
you can use their credit card,
20:03
and then the following Friday or
20:03
the next pay day, generally
20:07
would go in and pay them off for
20:07
that particular item. So I'm not
20:13
carrying a balance. So nowadays,
20:13
you can go online to your credit
20:18
card statement, and you can pay
20:18
them off weekly, you can pay
20:22
them off monthly, you don't have
20:22
to carry a balance at all. So if
20:27
you want to make sure you don't
20:27
have a balance, and don't forget
20:31
about it, you want to pay it off
20:31
two or three days after you make
20:35
the purchase, because you got to
20:35
let it flow through and it takes
20:39
a couple of days. And then
20:39
you'll make sure you receive the
20:43
item and make sure it's in good
20:43
shape this and you don't want to
20:47
pay off your credit card and
20:47
then have to return it and get
20:50
refund, you have this credit
20:50
there that you're not going to
20:53
be able to use for a while now
20:53
use tying up your cash, some
20:58
place when you don't
20:58
particularly have to. So it may
21:01
wait a week, then make sure
21:01
you're not going to return that
21:04
item or whatever the case would
21:04
be conservative way to look at
21:10
your finances. If say the two
21:10
scenarios going on, and you lose
21:16
your job. And either or there's
21:16
certain scenarios, you're gonna
21:20
have enough mergency fund that
21:20
cover you for at least three
21:24
months, so that you can start
21:24
collecting unemployment and
21:29
maybe get a part time job, start
21:29
looking for a new job, get you
21:34
know, because you're gonna have
21:34
a little bit of delay in getting
21:37
your final paycheck. So that's
21:37
gonna help a little bit. But if
21:41
it takes you a year to find a
21:41
new job, you're going to be
21:43
hurt. And if you only have three
21:43
months emergency fund, if you
21:46
have six months, you still gonna
21:46
be hurting, but it's gonna take
21:49
longer, you can start working a
21:49
part time job and doing
21:53
something, maybe your spouse
21:53
could go back to work and you
21:56
stay home with the children,
21:56
whatever you have to adapt to
22:01
the situation. And that is not
22:01
set in stone, you have to be
22:06
flexible, you have to be doing
22:06
whatever it takes to get
22:11
yourself through the particular
22:11
financial problems that you're
22:15
in, it's important to always be
22:15
tracking your income and your
22:21
spending, and always know about
22:21
your budget, even if the budget
22:26
is 80% going into your savings
22:26
account. And the rest of its
22:31
just paying utilities and food
22:31
and gas for the car. And
22:35
insurance when it comes along.
22:35
You still have to track and you
22:39
still need to have a budget so
22:39
you know these things. And the
22:43
more in the future, you can see
22:43
what's coming up and what's new,
22:48
the more you know what's coming
22:48
up what's due, the better you
22:52
can plan for it. And the better
22:52
off you're gonna be the be no
22:55
surprises. And you shouldn't
22:55
really have too many surprises
22:59
in your personal financial life,
22:59
he should be aware of what's
23:03
going on. And he should know
23:03
pretty much that if you lose
23:09
your job or quit your job or
23:09
whatever the case that you'd be
23:13
able to get by for X amount of
23:13
time with no particular problems
23:19
until you can get and to an
23:19
income producing state. Again,
23:25
whatever that may be saying,
23:25
just because you pay off your
23:30
credit card doesn't mean you'd
23:30
quit tracking and quit doing a
23:33
budget. Just because you pay off
23:33
your credit cards and your car
23:36
loans means you don't do your
23:36
tracking and don't do a budget.
23:40
Just because you're completely
23:40
debt free means you quit your
23:43
tracking and don't do a budget.
23:43
I've been debt free for a couple
23:47
years now. And I still track all
23:47
my spending and all my income
23:52
coming in. And I still have a
23:52
monthly budget I update on a
23:56
regular basis, maybe not as
23:56
often as I did in the past, but
24:01
I still update it every couple
24:01
times a month at the very least
24:05
as my bills are being paid
24:05
throughout the month, I will
24:09
update my budget and make sure
24:09
I'm not going overboard
24:14
somewhere along the line. Before
24:14
making that next large purchase
24:18
where you have to get a loan
24:18
that's going to be multiple
24:21
years, whether it's a five year
24:21
loan, four year loan, six year
24:26
loan, whatever it is, you got to
24:26
know it'd be able to afford it.
24:33
So here's a tip, figure out how
24:33
much your down payment is gonna
24:38
be and then figure out how much
24:38
you're gonna finance. And how
24:42
much is that gonna cost you? If
24:42
say it's a new car purchase, you
24:47
got to figure at least 9%
24:47
interest. It may be a little bit
24:51
lower than that but figure 9%
24:51
for five years or six years
24:55
what's your monthly payment once
24:55
you know that you figure that
25:00
out. Now, without changing
25:00
anything in your budget, put
25:06
that amount of money more into
25:06
your savings account, pretend
25:11
you have the loan, and every
25:11
month, put that much more into
25:16
your savings account. If you have to take out money to
25:18
pay bills, then you can't afford
25:24
that payment. I don't want you
25:24
to reduce your savings that
25:28
you've already set up and set
25:28
aside whether it's $100 a month,
25:33
$50 a month, that's got to
25:33
remain the same. We're trying to
25:38
figure out if we can afford this
25:38
loan. And if you can't put that
25:45
amount of money aside, and not
25:45
take it back out of your savings
25:49
account, even if it's $1. That
25:49
means that you cannot afford
25:55
that particular loan for that
25:55
amount. So either you need to
25:59
increase your savings or your
25:59
down payment to reduce the
26:03
amount that you're borrowing, or
26:03
find a better rate of interest
26:08
or just don't buy that
26:08
particular item. Do that for a
26:13
minimum of three months. And
26:13
better off if you did it for six
26:17
months. This is called planning
26:17
ahead. We're planning to make a
26:22
large purchase. And if we know
26:22
what the monthly payments gonna
26:26
be, and we can't make that
26:26
continuously without taking
26:31
money out of our savings
26:31
account, in order to pay other
26:35
bills, then maybe it's something
26:35
we can't afford at this time.
26:40
Maybe you need to wait to get a
26:40
pay raise. Maybe you need to buy
26:44
something a little less
26:44
expensive. Maybe you need to get
26:48
a better rate of interest on
26:48
your loan. Whatever the case may
26:52
be. It's multiple items. But
26:52
this is called planning ahead
26:57
and looking towards the future
26:57
and not just jumping in
27:02
headfirst and hope everything
27:02
works out to the best because as
27:06
I said earlier, there should be
27:06
no surprises in your personal
27:10
finances. And if you do these
27:10
things, you'll be glad you did
27:15
so
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