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This Reggie ATL coming to you from the love city of Atlanta , georgia
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, and you know , typically , dj , when I'm on this
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show , I'm going out to another city . It'll be like this is Reggie
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ATL going out to Cali . This Reggie ATL
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going out to Chicago , but
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I'm going out to Atlanta Like I'm not even . I'm not
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even going nowhere . This is Reggie ATL , got DJ
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here with us and
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I'm going to give you a chance to introduce yourself here , DJ , because
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I've been on your show talking , dating
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and stuff like that and it was much more sophisticated operation
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. She had like her own little studio set
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up . There was like people there , it's just me here
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on this show and a light and
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a computer , like there's nothing . I don't have all the
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bells and whistles , dj , how are you doing ?
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I'm doing great and what you got going
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on is super dope . I hate that I don't have my mic
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, but my name is DJ
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Robinson . I am the founder and creator
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of Plumper Keeps podcast and
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dating app , built around self awareness
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and compatibility games . So when two people
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match , they have to play a
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compatibility game based on
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love , language , sexual
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compatibility , emotional intelligence
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or attachment theory . It's
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a attachment theory .
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We're yo , yo . What's attachment theory ?
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So attachment theory is basically a theory . Oh
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my God , the name escapes me , but basically
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it's a theory that came about , I believe , in the
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1960s could be a little
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earlier than that , but we're all born with
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an attachment style . So there's four different
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types . There's the secure attachment
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style , so that means you know you were secure , you
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were raised in a household where
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your parents supported you , so you grow
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up and you don't
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have any like too much securities when dealing
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with people in relationships . And then there's the three
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other types , which is considered insecure
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attachment style . So there's the dismissive
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avoidant . So that might be
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the person who is independent
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. You know they might , can just have sex
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, multiple sexual partners , and they're
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okay , they don't need , they don't really easily
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get attached . Then there's
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the anxiously attached , so that's that clingy
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person who may call you 55 times
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because they're trying to get a hold of
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you and you're not answering them
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. Then there's
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the fearful avoidant . So that's the one who
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kind of juggles between the
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dismissive and the attachment
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. So you want love but you're scared of
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it . So you might start off strong and
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then you'll pull away and
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identify as an
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FA or a fearful avoidant . And
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that's something I've been working through .
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Fearful avoidant Is
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that how it says something . Let me write
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that down for you . Fearful avoidant yes , wow .
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So when two people play this game , they'll get it . When
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they answer the short questionnaire game
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, they'll get an idea of where
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they may fall on the spectrum . So
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it's just kind of an introduction to it .
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Really so how did you find out where you fell ? I
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don't let me see . Ain't it secure ? I
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?
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get a lot of things over real quick .
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I think maybe I'm more like pretty
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secure man , pretty secure
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, I don't think a lot of us grow into
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that .
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And then there's some people who just they have their secure
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attachment style . You know , I don't know , I've
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always been kind of a fearful avoidant , like
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I would . I would
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lean more towards the guys I really had
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to work hard for . But I think
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it was because I had some dismissiveness
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within myself because I would get with a guy
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who had all their stuff together and
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I did not stay in those relationships
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.
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So you know I need to fix her up , or let me get rid of this
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guy who's got a full time job
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and stable life . Just get him out of
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here .
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This is also consciously , by the way . I want to
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put that out there . This
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is not conscious , but this is definitely
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what I was doing . Like , when you really examine
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this , what the fuck is this girl doing ? This
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is accurate . How did you so ? How ?
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did you get to that though ? Like how did you know ? Like
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, how did you like ?
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it takes a lot of self , like awareness
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, right To a certain degree it does , but I wasn't
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self aware for a very long time . So , like I said
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, I would get with these guys
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, fix their uppers or whatever the case may be
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, and eventually I would get tired , right . So
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eventually I would break up with them . But there was one
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particular guy who broke up with me and
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that I don't
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know what it was . It fucked me
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up really bad .
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It was word like so . So why ? Why do
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you what ? What would what ? Why that
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one in particular versus like .
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The story behind that one . I poured a lot into
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this relationship . Um
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, I poured a lot into the relationship first
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off , and I think that's more of what it
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was like a portal out into it , and
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then , once it was all over , it's like I knew
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better . And then it was like , okay , I need to
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self assess for real now , because I
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don't want to feel this way . Yeah , so
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that's where all of like the research
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and dig in and getting certain
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certifications and becoming more self-aware
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became Really important to me because
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, yeah , that shit hurt . Like
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, is there certain
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?
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things in these behaviors can
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, and we don't want you to break each one of them down . That's probably
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another show . We could just do another show . We probably will
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do that . We'll do a show on just attachment theory
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, because it's very interesting . Stuff like this
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is very interesting to me . Um , is there
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, if we can do , like just a quick summary
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of like something that you may see in
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each one , like like a characteristic , so that
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you can See , okay , this person
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is this way or this person's ? That would not to say that
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you could sum it up in one sentence Because , like I said , I really
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do want to do another show on this , but is there something
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that you can see in a secure person and an insecure
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person ?
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so a secure person is somebody who's self-aware
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, somebody who can be in a relationship
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. And , let's say , a
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secure person you get . You get into an argument
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with your partner . You're not so
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easily triggered off of Something
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your partner may say . You're able to really assess . Problem
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and you can talk things out for real
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, right then ? Then let's say , somebody
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who is , um , anxiously
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attached , say you get into an argument
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with your partner and you're anxiously attached . You
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might be somebody who your
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partner might be somebody like myself
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. Sometimes I have to walk away , like , hey
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, give me some time , because if I might say the wrong
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thing and I don't want to say the wrong thing , so
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I need to revisit this conversation , so I
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will walk away . If you're somebody
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who's anxiously attached , you have to have
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the conversation right now .
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Yes , I've dated people like that who do not
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want to get on their phone without a resolution like Right
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.
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Yeah , somebody who's
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probably anxiously attached . Or you might
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be anxiously attached if your partner's
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having a bad day At work
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and they come home and maybe they're wearing that energy
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on them and then you make
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it in a way , you make it all about you
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, like you're trying to please your partner . But you're only
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trying to please your partner because you want them to get out
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of this bad move so they can attend
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to you . So you get what I'm saying .
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So that might be anxiously attached .
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Somebody who's fearfully fearful of warden
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is kind of like what I mentioned , somebody
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who , um , it's
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kind of like a rollercoaster . Like I might start
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off really strong In a relationship
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with somebody , let's say , a guy that
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has his stuff together . I might
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be excited at first . You know I'm saying I
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like him at first and you
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know , then maybe he starts coming in really
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strong with things I'm not used to because I'm
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not maybe I'm not used to being treated that well
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to my childhood and things that
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went on in my household because I
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grew up in a real co-dependent Household
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with a lot of fighting , alcohol
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. It was an unstable household , so
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that's kind of what I was used to . So when
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a guy's kind of , when a guy was stable
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and was trying to give me things and treat
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me well , it was just it was so unfamiliar
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to me I was afraid I was going
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to mess it up . That's what I'm thinking . It was more on
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that .
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Go ahead and , just like yo , get rid of them all together .
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Yeah
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, but I would let them as boredom right
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, Like I would okay .
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I've heard that before .
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Yeah , like he was born and like he didn't stimulate
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me in the right ways . But now that I'm older
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and I'm able to look , it was more
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so of me wanting
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to fix something , feeling
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that I had to be Worthy
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to receive this type of love
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, and I didn't do anything compared
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to other things , because that's what I was taught
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in my household . We don't have to work , flood
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everything , including right . That's
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this is a little bit about . And then , oh , dismissive
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avoidance earths . That might be somebody
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who was raised . Maybe your parents
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worked all the time . Maybe you grew
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up in a crazy household where you were left alone a
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lot , so you had to self-sude
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and you had you were alone
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a lot . So you grow up and
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you get into these relationships and
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your inner story may be to the effect
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of People leave
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so you don't get attached
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.
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So I see , so you know
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, you never really formed that attachment because you're so
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, yeah , they usually don't even form it too
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much like that .
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You know they might have sex , but sex is not
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looked at as the same to dismissive
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for sure , yeah , so that's
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a little bit on those .
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Because I would definitely want to talk . We're gonna
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do a whole show on that like . Like that might be our really
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like legit Our next show , cuz that's absolutely
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fascinating to me the different types
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. And I remember you , j
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, being at at when I
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was at your studio where we're doing our thing
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and you were showing me your phone . This
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is something I've never forgotten , by the way . Now
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you're gonna show me , like , your Facebook situation and you're
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like I don't know if it's Facebook dating or something
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DJ , you
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had so many dudes in there , dj . I was like . I was
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like this is like a mountain of men . You had dudes coming
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in that had left , dudes that came back like
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. I was like yo , this
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is a lot of guys , so from from
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a guy
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standpoint , it's complete
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. Like yo , there's like
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a million dudes out here and the kind of guy I am
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, dj , they all thirstier than me . I'm not a thirsty
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dude like . So I'm like how do I ? I don't have a shot
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out here . You kidding me cuz I'm not paying
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any attention . I'm gonna send one message . I'm gone like
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. That's it . I'm out of here
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. I've already forgotten . I sent that message . After
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I've sent it , I think we talked about this on the show . Yeah
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, at least for me personally , part
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of my dating journey was not putting
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so much emphasis on the one message , not putting
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so much emphasis on the one Communication
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. You know , I mean I kind of do my communication and then move
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on , boom , I'm out of here and if they hit back , they hit back , they
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don't , they don't . But when I looked at
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the mountain of men you've had in your , that's
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what name of your next podcast should be . You should be mountain
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, that's
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that's the name of it . Should be mountain , the mountain of men
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that DJ had in her , in her
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, in your
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messages . Want
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to know is this how does anyone stick
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out ? How do you even choose one of those messages
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? A bunch of dudes and some guys shirts on
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, some guys shirts off , some look like business Do , some
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like regular dudes who just took this photo selfie
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and it's kind of like , how do you ? How
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was anybody even sticking out to you ? Dj team
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like select on them .
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So now for me , cuz
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I know when I was younger , like yo , I
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would just hit everybody up and then just try to keep
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up , but then I would good luck with that .
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But what I do do now , I really do try . I actually need to
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get back on .
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Anyway , into your message
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, yeah .
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A mountain of messages not being even seen and attended to
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DJ Yo . Let's just take
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a pause here for all the people who looking
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for love out here to the other people that have millions
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of Messages they're not even responding to . They're
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not even on there and they still getting those
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messages to other dudes and women who are trying their
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hardest . They got 17 messages . That's just a DJ's getting
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a . She got 70 and she hadn't even looked at them . I
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feel so bad .
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I feel so bad I really
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want to get on there to promote
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my stuff . But see , that was it , I'm I ain't , I ain't used , that's why some
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of a thing . But Now
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I try to do , I try to look at the person's profile first
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. I look at the message like I
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need something in depth . Not too in depth because I'm not too
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into the message , because
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I've had a guy send me like a
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lot of different . That guy said me their
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escort services packages .
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I need a set . Yo maybe need to put Messages
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. My boss , you're sending something like yo , brah herd .
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I want to know , like , what really has really
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?
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Prices go with these prices . Looking like like .
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I don't know what radius for that as a male .
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That's bored out here .
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It look like they go on . I'm trying to remember this was a
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while back . I know like
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to just spend time , not
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have sex , just get like girlfriend
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treatment . I think he was two
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, three hundred dollars for that , for like a night
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.
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Oh , I am quitting my job . What
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am I out here fucking working my
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life away for when I can just show up and get
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pay a couple hundred bucks for conversation ?
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I'll give it a lot of women , they
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, they looking for that , ali , I guess he found
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his niche . I don't know . I
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get these messages about Sad
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stories to three paragraphs . I don't know
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another , another one looking for sympathy
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and money . Like I get these word messages and then I'll
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get no
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, hey , what's up , what's up , sexy
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, somebody might say something about my big lid
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. Like I don't like those messages . Like you gotta
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be a .
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The physical messages , the messages
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that are commenting on anything
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physical You're not a fan of not
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, not anymore .
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I remember the pants , thank you , no
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, not , no more .
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Yeah , a lot of women . I've heard a lot of women say that as
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a matter . Yeah right .
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So not no more , you just gotta come
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correct , introduce yourself . I'll
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respond to those messages just introducing
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yourself . And now I'm more open to
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. I don't have a , I have a tight
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, but then I'm more open , like
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I'll reach out
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if your message is right and then just see what a conversation
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.
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So what is the right message ? Can we just write it right now
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? Can we just write it for these dudes ?
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I would . What is a message that ?
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get DJ Absolutely the pageant
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, because that's just part . If a guy
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writes a good message , dj , that's just getting you to look
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at them . You didn't even like reached out to them yet . That's just
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getting over the first of having you
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even just look at their message .
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I might not be the right person , because
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I the last person I messaged
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was it was
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, it was a situation , was a me trying
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something .
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Let me think about another message , because I'm like that one might
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not be . Is there , if you
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couldn't write the word specifically Is there
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a theme of a message that you feel like it's better
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for for for men I know
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going for men to women situation Is there
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a theme message that a guy can write
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to wear a woman like ? Maybe the theme will be
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just Is it saying something funny ? Is
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it mentioning , maybe , something she's wearing
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? Is it mentioning a picture that she has ? Is there
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a theme I can definitely ?
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mention in something , um
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, definitely mentioning something funny , I'm not gonna
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lie , is something that will attract
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me as well . Mentioning something funny , um
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, and then also Even
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being intentional , like stayed in kind
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of shortly what your intentions are
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like , or asking me what you know , what am I
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doing on the app , like what brings
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me to facebook , and then just and
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just the message just got to be somewhat
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of an Intentional because a lot of these dudes
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don't they ? Just kind of what you said . I just
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send out one message and I just see what you know
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.
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Ask the wide net is what we got to do . You
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know what I mean .
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You know , I feel like you come up with a general
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message that comes off intentional , then
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um cast that wide net
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with it .
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So I don't know like , so I'm not that
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, yeah , I'm kind of simple , nothing about it , but there
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was the left to your point .
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This is the when you asked
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me about a message , one that really caught my
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eye . So this guy was Polly , my
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mom . He was Polly .
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Polly , a Polly lifestyle , for that's multiple
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lovers for people .
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Polly lifestyle is yeah , he was interesting
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lifestyle , by the way , very interesting lifestyle very
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interesting . I've learned that it's not for me
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. I've tried it a couple times . I've learned ?
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it's not for me but
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yet another show idea that we just have . We've come
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up with two or three more shows on here .
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I'll talk about my experiences and why they weren't
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. I've had a couple of experiences
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, but his message was so genuine
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and so on , like he wanted to make it clear , like
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, did I read his profile ? He
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just was really intentional . I think that's my
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big thing , like being intentional
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, like in your message , to some degree , to show
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like hey , I'm really on
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this app trying to meet Dave
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, like I need to see that , like
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that , hey , what's up ? You
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know , I don't even respond to those because I'll respond
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and then the dude will be only looking for
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a pen pal . That's like . I'm trying to get out
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in the streets like I'm not looking
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for no damn pen pal .
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Yeah , you and me both . I'm not with that . You know those
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people that get on these apps and they want a message for
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like a month , like yo . What do
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you think I'm gonna waste my time here ? You think I wanted this
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text ? Well , I can be text pals with you because
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, basically , what you're doing you know what I mean I'm not texting
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you , but I'm you doing the same method through
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an app , whether it's you're doing social media
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, whether you're doing dating , it's pretty much you're just texting
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messages on your phone , reaching out to another human
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being . And when , in dating apps , just
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like he said , it's a being intentional right , most people are
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on there for intentional reasons , like there
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. There are some people out there playing games , but
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there's people who aren't , and I think that it's
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good to identify which one of those people
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that you are like . Are you a person
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that's playing games or your person ?
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This is other apps for that , like , get on a big old
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, like you can be friends
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with people . Okay , I don't play
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with this . Don't play with your mom , like , don't play with
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me about no
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, go , finish that statement .
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No , I'll just say don't play with me . That's all they
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. Uh , what about any
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negative , or is there ? So we just talked about the positive
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. Make be able to jump out something that jumps out
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to you where you like , yo , all right , but I can
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at least , uh , engage this person in
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conversation . What is now ? Let's go to the
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opposite end of the spectrum . What do you look at you like
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? Instantly like , oh hell , no , like , like , no , not
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a chance . This person's getting a message . No
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, is it looks ? Is
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it physical ?
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Keep it above DJ
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.
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DJ In
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there and be like hell . No , you see this .
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What else ? Sometimes it's physical , and then there's
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um . I'm
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trying to think about if I got a message now . Girls
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another time a guy sent me like a two-page
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letter about his life and how he was struggling
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, how he just wanted a girl to be there
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for him . I'm like , damn , I need
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to check my .
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Yeah .
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Yeah , I don't know , I need to change the pictures on
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my profile with some I would have . What the hell
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am I trying to Because that ? That was a hell
18:44
? No , for me , um , what
18:47
else ? Uh , the
18:50
, the , um , the other story I gave you about
18:52
the the
18:55
escort , that wasn't the hell , no , that was . That
18:57
was an entertaining conversation for two days until
18:59
I finally just left him already Because he was
19:01
yo so did he give you his prices up front ?
19:03
I'm really . The escort situation is really interesting . Hey
19:05
look I might need a new line of work , I mean he
19:09
didn't give him to me a friend .
19:11
I wish I could find his messages . Just uh , it
19:13
wasn't a front , it was just more so him letting
19:15
me know . You know he was
19:17
, and he didn't even use the word escort
19:19
, he used .
19:22
I'll have . That's too strong . He probably didn't want to come on
19:24
very strong like let me ease
19:26
it in there .
19:27
We made it clear , like you know , I'm
19:29
, you know I'm just out here basically
19:32
what he said
19:34
. But he basically just made it clear , like
19:36
you know , I'm just out here , you
19:38
know , making sure that women are good
19:40
, but it was in this , it was in his own
19:42
way of putting in and just made him know like it's gonna
19:44
cost you money .
19:46
Yo , so did you like it ? So you
19:48
did you pull that from his comments , because
19:50
I I need the sheet
19:52
right in the menu , bro , I need you to pull . I asked
19:54
him .
19:55
I was like so how much ? That's what I got , the two to 300 . So
19:57
how much do you charge like for certain stuff
19:59
? You know , because I have to talk to
20:01
him a little bit , but I'm
20:04
gonna find those messages and I'm gonna , I'm gonna screenshot
20:06
him and I'm gonna send him to you .
20:08
Yeah , man because I wanted to . That's that's an interesting
20:10
conversation to have , because I you know what's funny is
20:12
. So I've talked to a lot of guys who , um , and
20:16
luckily I've avoided this dj , I've
20:18
avoided this like but but duty
20:21
shop . I believe him because he showed me . So he had a list and
20:24
he was like man . Every time
20:26
I started to get close to women on these apps , they
20:28
end up asking me for money at some point . They end up asking me sending
20:31
me their list , sending me their menu and stuff like that . And
20:33
I'm like how has this never
20:36
happened to me ? And how has it happened
20:38
so much to this other person ? Because he did
20:40
have a , he had a , his block list , because he's
20:42
like yo , I'll block him every time . And he was scrolling
20:44
up his block list . He could scroll a
20:47
few different times up his block list . So
20:49
I was like yo , what is he
20:51
doing where he's getting so many women ? That's
20:53
like asking
20:55
him these lines of questions and I just never
20:57
had gotten this before .
20:59
Okay , so me . We've done
21:01
a few podcasts together and you've always
21:03
seemed like you were intentional , right
21:05
With who you chose , who you date
21:07
. You always came off intentional . I
21:10
had another dude come on my podcast
21:12
maybe about a month or two after
21:14
you and he was having the same issues
21:16
here in Atlanta is just different
21:19
Every time I go out on a date with a girl she ends
21:21
up asking for money . Or
21:24
I took a girl out on a date and once I house and
21:26
there was no food in
21:29
her refrigerator so I bought a groceries
21:31
and then I just never spoke to him again . But then he turned
21:33
around and he said well , if you act
21:35
like the fun girl , I'm gonna treat
21:38
you like the fun girl . So that means you entertaining
21:40
her . So if you entertaining her
21:42
and you know she's a fun girl , of
21:44
course she's gonna tell her , she's gonna ask you for something
21:47
. And it sounds like he knew from John
21:50
yeah , she come off like she's a fun girl , but
21:52
I'm gonna have fun with her . What
21:54
you expect .
21:56
I guess . So I know it's interesting
21:58
because now it's gonna maybe kind of have to revisit
22:00
. I should go back my bro , because I did tell him
22:02
this like , since you're the only common
22:04
denominator , it's something , it's some energy
22:07
that's being given off , bro , like something , I'm
22:09
not sure what it is , but you're giving off some
22:11
energy that's attracted , this energy back to you
22:13
.
22:14
These dudes be . These dudes be entertaining
22:16
and they'll entertain just to see
22:18
how far they can go until
22:21
maybe the girl asked for something , or they'll just see how
22:23
far they can take it and then she'll she'll
22:25
pop up and ask for something . But I
22:28
feel like if you're intentional about
22:31
dating and about how
22:33
you're putting yourself out there while you're dating
22:35
, what you your , your dating life will reflect
22:38
back to you what you're putting out there . So
22:41
if you're only if you're only if
22:43
you're , only if you're only if you're entertaining
22:46
a fun girl because she's fun and you're trying to
22:48
have fun .
22:50
I want to do . You know what I mean . Listen , we'll entertain
22:52
some stuff .
22:54
Yeah , because you got one of something real serious too
22:56
, but he took in everything that came
22:58
his way , including those girls
23:01
. So you won't run into . That's
23:04
just my perspective , my opinion you entertaining
23:06
these people and you getting , you making them comfortable
23:08
enough to ask for word
23:11
right , especially here in the A .
23:13
there's no shortage , I'll tell you that right now , there's
23:15
no shortage of human beings in the A who's
23:17
willing to get that check , that money up off of you , like
23:19
there's , there's zero . If you're a band Atlanta
23:21
, you're gonna know exactly what I'm talking about and
23:24
you know . So one of the last things I want to talk about here on
23:27
this show is how
23:29
do you and I think we've talked about this before
23:31
, and that's kind of like the , the
23:35
preferences versus the deal breakers yet another
23:37
show that we could just do a whole show on which we might
23:39
. We've come up with like four shows , this show , so we've come
23:41
up with our next , like three to four shows with
23:43
the preview , and then we're actually deep dive on
23:45
these , because this is what I've talked about with several
23:47
different people and I'm always interested to hear what
23:50
one is versus the others , because you know what
23:53
ends up happening is like , well , I might have a laundry list of deal
23:55
breakers and , and as I talked to a lot of women
23:57
, one of the things I've discovered and maybe this is the same we would
23:59
mend to is that that
24:01
list gets shorter as you get older , like so , when you're younger
24:03
, that list starts off a mile long . As
24:06
you get it started to get older , you start to scratch some things off the list
24:08
. Like , well , I'll take this maybe . maybe at the beginning , like
24:10
I don't want to man with no kids , then I'll
24:12
take one who doesn't live with him , I'll take one that
24:14
does live with him , but as a teenager I'll take a toddler
24:16
, I'll take anything like . So
24:19
it kind of goes down with
24:21
time , with with time . Now
24:24
, what do you ? Is that something
24:26
that you see and something that you're kind of familiar with
24:28
, kind of having what is a strong preference
24:30
versus what is an absolute deal right here
24:32
?
24:32
I know a lot of my friends I never
24:34
had and that was a . Let me tell you that was a part of my
24:36
problem back in the day , like I didn't
24:38
have too many boundaries . I don't think I want to
24:41
see this is the type I want , the fine ass dude
24:43
. I didn't care what he had
24:45
going on , kind of like when I was young .
24:47
That's a guy's perspective . You're talking about how guys do . That's the cool
24:49
stuff you do .
24:50
That's the cool stuff that I had there
24:52
. You know , I'm saying like I didn't really have that
24:54
. I didn't care what he was , what he had going on , like I
24:56
said , I was a fixer-upper , like let me help
24:58
you , I always had my stuff
25:01
together and it was just kind of like you know
25:03
, I can help you , you , you know
25:05
so unfortunately , I had to help you
25:07
.
25:07
You're housing these dudes . Man , put these dudes in the house
25:09
put them up you .
25:10
They say , yeah , I'll take .
25:11
I'll take care of . I got you . I'm settled on my financials
25:13
, you know I'm like what are you looking for ?
25:15
I'm gonna help you you know , but I had
25:17
to really get out to the point
25:19
where I'm gonna help you . I wasn't
25:21
that I wasn't that bad where I was putting them
25:23
up in housing stuff , but I was the type who
25:25
, okay , you
25:27
say you want to do this , let me help
25:30
you do this . And if I had to , whatever
25:32
I had to do to help , I would help . But it'd be me
25:34
pouring , pouring , pouring , pouring in to
25:37
build this person up and
25:39
I wasn't getting anything in return
25:41
. So I didn't have a lot of boundaries . Which
25:43
means I didn't have a lot of boundaries . It means
25:46
I didn't really have a lot of preferences
25:48
versus what
25:51
is non-negotiable Deal breakers .
25:54
Because a lot of times people , that's
25:56
what people tend to have yeah
25:58
now in me .
26:00
My list is still short . Like
26:02
I said , I didn't really have one before
26:04
. Now I'm on the show . Now it's like okay , you have to respect
26:06
my boundaries . You give me any type of
26:08
red flag . You don't respect my boundaries
26:10
.
26:10
You have to draw .
26:12
I don't give you down
26:15
. How fine it is .
26:16
So that's one of them , right ?
26:17
That's just sounds like a deal like three , right , so that's
26:19
just having just boundaries . Mine
26:21
is just having boundaries now , like because
26:23
I didn't have any before , because I didn't know where
26:25
I began and where another person ended
26:28
. So another person never ended and
26:30
always needed , needed , needed , needed , needed . I
26:32
would just give , give , give , because I didn't know where I ended
26:34
or where I began . So now
26:38
it's now . It's understanding my boundaries
26:40
, understanding and
26:42
, I guess , something within my boundaries
26:44
. I don't mind somebody who have kids
26:47
, I don't think I don't mind
26:49
somebody who have kids , as long as you're taking care of your kids
26:51
and you ain't dealing with the BM
26:53
, I think you're dealing with Right .
26:55
Right . Is that that's like having them any issues
26:58
, Because I've never really had to deal with that . What like if
27:00
I date a woman with them ? I haven't
27:02
really had to deal with like any baby father drama , Like they may
27:04
have it , but it never kind of spilled over , you know
27:06
what I mean .
27:06
Yeah , that's all I would want , because I know
27:08
for me that's . I gave every man
27:10
that that I dated . Because I have an 11 year old
27:13
. I deal with big drama between
27:15
me and him but it never spilled over
27:18
, like the guy would never know . You know
27:20
I'm trying to think and
27:22
then preferences back in the day he
27:26
had to be six to six over six
27:28
, six pack . Yeah , absolutely , that
27:30
was good to my own stuff , why
27:33
he had to be so tall now you know , here
27:35
last guy talked to you and very close
27:38
to my height , so you know I've grown
27:40
.
27:40
So you've , you've , you've , you've dropped
27:42
down . So what was that like dropping
27:45
down like an inch every , every , every
27:47
year ? So how long did it take you down ? To
27:49
from where you started .
27:51
No , it was drag . Well
27:53
, I'm about six years
27:55
. Like I said once , I really
27:58
started with like I
28:00
don't , six , seven years , because for the longest he had to be
28:02
tall . I don't want him to be tall . Now it's
28:04
like he ain't got to be that tall , but that took
28:06
a while for me to get over that .
28:08
So that was why I think that is because that's a physical
28:10
preference , you that think that you just that's
28:12
just your physical preference , just kind of changing
28:14
yourself .
28:15
I think I just was following the trend because
28:17
I'm really not , I
28:19
don't really care about the height . Well , he can't be four foot
28:21
two .
28:22
Now you know , I'm saying , oh wow , wow
28:24
, two dudes like you know
28:27
just as soon as you got put in , you
28:29
just been put back out for all you guys who
28:31
felt like yo now we got a shot , now
28:33
you can put back outside by DJ .
28:35
No , five to six and over , is you know
28:37
? That's good , that's generous .
28:39
That's generous from what a lot
28:41
of women are , because I wouldn't listen
28:44
. They don't five foot , nothing , and it's over
28:46
with me . It's over with like we're
28:49
nine guys over with , we're not getting nothing .
28:51
That's crazy . No , five foot
28:54
six and over is five . I got over
28:56
the stupid stigma of a guy
28:58
got to be a certain height . A guy got to be this , a
29:00
guy got to be that . Um
29:02
, I don't see
29:04
, I wouldn't be . I'm not the best in this year because I'm still
29:06
. I'm still learning my
29:08
preferences , my background Are we all .
29:10
I don't know if it ever . Is it ever done , DJ
29:12
? I don't think it is . I don't think it is . I don't
29:15
think that you ever really stop
29:17
, because you don't stop evolving as a person . I mean
29:20
, if you're living life correctly , there's going to
29:22
be constant evolution , things that
29:24
you learn from each previous year to where you take it into
29:26
the next year like , okay , yo , a little bit more wise
29:28
, and I feel like some of those preferences kind
29:30
of change with that right which is growing as a human being
29:32
.
29:33
Absolutely . So I say , yeah , I don't have
29:35
, I never had , I didn't have any before
29:37
and now I only have
29:40
a few . I probably can list
29:42
a whole bunch of things that I know I won't stand
29:44
for . But as far as like preferences and
29:46
and then deal breakers , you know
29:48
the person got to respect my mind
29:50
. You know I've been in relationships where guys will
29:52
try to dumb me down , dim my light
29:55
, like things like that .
29:57
So what would they do ? Like when you say dim you're like or dumb
29:59
you down , like , where is that ? Like talking to you and condescending
30:01
fashions .
30:03
Is that what ? Yeah , condescending fashions
30:06
, or that's basically talking
30:08
to me and condescending fashion . I ain't never had nobody
30:10
like insult me , like directly . Like
30:13
you know , somebody can insult you directly
30:15
like oh you yo , that's
30:17
like super toxic , though , right . Like if , do
30:20
like if you go into the crib .
30:21
You being insulted at your house by by
30:23
your sister . That sucks , that
30:26
sucks .
30:27
My first relationship , none of my personal . My
30:29
second one I wasn't a physically abusive
30:31
one , so after that yeah , I
30:33
was . I wasn't that , and I'm
30:35
gonna take that back down to was verbally
30:38
abusive as well . So
30:40
I did deal with that and after
30:42
that relationship , okay , well , that's something I'm not
30:44
gonna tolerate anymore , but that was a very good relationship
30:46
. I was a teenager .
30:49
So you got out the way pretty quick .
30:50
I got that one out of the way pretty quick . I hate
30:52
that I went through that , but I'm one of those people , unfortunately
30:55
.
30:55
I'm very hard at it , so especially
30:59
have to go through a few things before you really
31:01
have to to figure out some stuff . And you know
31:03
what's crazy is . As I've looked at the notes you
31:05
know I've taken notes this entire show Let me see
31:08
I see one , two
31:10
. Okay , let's say three
31:12
. All right , I see three more shows here . More
31:15
shows . It's just from this one
31:18
conversation that we've had . It was one
31:20
half an hour conversation . There's gonna be a few
31:22
more shows , just based on what we've talked about here . Tell
31:24
the people where they can find you at DJ
31:26
.
31:27
So you can find me on all
31:29
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31:36
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31:40
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31:45
and app as well . So check us out .
31:48
Amazing , amazing . This is Reggie
31:50
Chil . Check us out , stay at your heart . Radio , google podcast
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