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I Said natl , come a team from love city of
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Atlanta , georgia , going out to the rainy
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city , which I Know . But
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now that rena getting in LA is not
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gonna be as bad , I don't feel bad that
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you guys are getting Welcome to the
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rest of the country . You know , like United
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States of America , ladies and gentlemen
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, for people in Cali , you know , I
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think that little rain , you know
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, maybe to make y'all feel like you belong
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, because I know it being in Cali , being out there on the west
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coast and everything Is so gravy all the time
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. Like you guys , are living your privileged life , that
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you don't know what it's like here for the rest of us . And now
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you got some rain and everything . Hopefully
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it's not too crazy . How do you , how's
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it going there for you to know ?
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So you're saying , right , you know , this is our punishment or
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something I don't . I just feel like you guys
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Wake up call here .
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You're in the United States of America and I don't feel like you guys
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have had that we call in years and it's been
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gonna bring us into the fold now , like we've been outliers
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for so long . Welcome to the country . Yeah
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, that's . All it took was a little rain to
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get you here . I .
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Don't like this . I don't want to be here anymore .
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Well , how long is that gonna last
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for you guys ? I think I mean , maybe you guys get maybe
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24 hours of it . Are you gonna move ?
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We went to a tropical storm . Now it's still serious
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.
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Oh my god . Well , hopefully everything
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will be alright for the nail out there . You know , we did
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an episode here where we were discussing Kind
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of some dating topics and I wanted to kind of piggyback
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off that episode because I had a conversation
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with some friends A while
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back ago and they were talking
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we were just talking about just dating , people's
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dating preferences and stuff like that , and
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One of the things we brought up was
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is it racist , like not to date another
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, a specific race , not , not
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this , no other race ? You know , date to
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date , to not date a specific races ? And
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I Personally
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didn't think so , because I think that your preferences
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are your preferences . I think everybody's got them
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like . Sometimes it's race in terms of different things
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. So we'll go down a few different things here . We're we'll
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kind of talk about a race or a
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official standpoint or if it's just a preference
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standpoint . And since we are starting
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there on that , because
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you know , I read statistically and I'm not
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sure if this is still true to know that black women
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in particular , or the least likely
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to date other races is , is
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black women For one
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. Has that been your , your
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case and do you is it ? Is
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it wide open the nails and they're
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like welcome one , welcome all . That's how
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my , as I am , it's wide open over here opportunity
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. I'm
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like the employment stuff you build out . That's my dating
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life as well .
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I Would like to say that I am
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the same , but , yes , I do
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have a preference . I prefer black men in general , just
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because I feel like there's a lot of experiences
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that I have that I . It would be easier
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to for them to relate to . But
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no , am I limiting myself ? No , not at all . It's like
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it's a preference on a requirement , and I think
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that's what people interesting have an issue distinction
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. Yeah , because some people require their
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specific other to be this way . And then what
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happens ? You do like a DNA test . They find out that's
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not them .
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Then you're gonna leave them . You
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gotta leave . Like bro , you were just light skinned you were
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. You weren't even like , you weren't even black . We found out later on
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and it was just you were just like a little bit darker , but
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but you were not black . So now is that
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a situation that cause for concern , my cause
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for leaving that individuals with your site ?
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Yeah , if you find out that that person doesn't have that quality
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or that that Nationality or whatever
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that was anymore , would you ? Would you leave
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them ? Would you be like bye , I don't want you anymore
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. That's . I feel that it borderlines
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on no , it is an issue at
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that point .
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Okay , so then we Will
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discuss that a little bit and then I was gonna list I'm like a whole
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list here and we'll just go down the list to see if you
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feel it's superficial or you feel like
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such preference which I feel like spoiler
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alert that most of these are just preferences only because I
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believe that a lot of times
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, when it comes to decisions
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that people make in their life to know there
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are very few decisions you can make your life like
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who you're gonna be with , it's almost like totally
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your decision . You're picking that person , you're
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picking to be with that person . You know
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, when it comes to like where you live and stuff like
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that , sometimes that depends on where you were born , you're
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socio-economic status . You know what
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I mean . You can't always just pick up and
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go and be exactly where you want to be , but
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at least you can be with the person you want to be
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with . You know , if nothing else , bearman
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, I really believe that going
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across . So , when it comes to like the
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race situation and the way that you explained
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it , that's kind of where I was getting at
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in a sense of people just have their preferences
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like for whatever reason it , and I , like that
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you made did make the distinction there between Kind
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of like a necessity versus like a preference , because
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some people have that necessity . And
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do you find that from your list of because
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some people call these like I guess not , not
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really red flags or really want your deal breakers
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that's , that's the world looking for some people have like a
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list of deal breakers . So , before we finish
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on this list , so do
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you find that that is Beneficial
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for a person to have , because some people like I don't want to lower
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my standard ever ? You heard that statement right . Yeah
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, when , when people are not a list that has like a million
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things on it , they say , well , I have standards and I just don't
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want to lower my standards and go for anything out here
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. Do you , where
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do you stand on a hard list
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of deal breakers ? That's
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hard , there's gotta be something on there .
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No , I do feel like , yes , you should have standards
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, but I also feel like
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there should be some kind of flexibility
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with certain things . Everybody
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has their non-negotiables like I cannot
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live without this , like I need this
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, this kind of thing , this kind of no
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in my life , whatever . So I get that
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. But I feel like when you're so immovable
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, where you just like and Eliminated
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a whole subsection of the population
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, it's a bit weird . It's a bit weird because
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you're also not allowing , you're
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putting people in a box and Not
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allowing for any movement outside of that . People
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change , people grow , people do different things . So
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I feel like that's that's . You might need
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somebody who doesn't have all your , your
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boxes checked and you
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can help them get that last box . Or , if
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they do have all those boxes , what happens if they lose one of
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those boxes in them , process of you , you being with them ? So
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say , like you needed , like he is , needs to be at a
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certain income and he loses
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a job you know , lose him to like
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, like how
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, how rigid are you with these things ? I think that's
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what really matters , not not necessarily that you have a standard
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. It's just is your standard
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, is your standard flexible as it moved , as
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it grows to change with time .
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Do you have ? Did you have a list of deal breakers
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yourself ? And I know it's . There's got to be something on that
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list . And now I know there's at least one thing you
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got to have on a list of bill .
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Um , yes , I
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would say , yes , I have my own list of deal
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break , because I do want somebody who is financially
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stable or able to do that , because I look as man
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is being the head of our household , a leader , and if
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you can't manage his finances , how can he manage me or anything
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else that we do ?
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That's something that is at a certain dollar
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amount , I'm coming in . If I'm coming in in a strong
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35k a year and I and
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, but I manage my 35k Is there because you know
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some women like yo , he needs six figures , somebody , some
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women , some women in your mind , and now they
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have , like specific dollar amount no
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, no , definitely . Is that so
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? Is that superficial , or is that a preference
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, or is that superficial ?
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Well , I think that depends too , because did you
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meet me , knowing that I am at
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this certain level ? I or I'm
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a certain I require a certain level
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of maintenance , and if you can't sustain
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that maintenance , why are you even talking to me ?
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Goodness gracious it like a car . What kind of maintenance
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are we talking about ?
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Relationships , looking for a baddie , looking
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for a girl to be a certain way and that with
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that certain look or preference , it
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comes with An expenditure
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, like it's costly . It's like you
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, you have your job , you have to get different certifications
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and all kind of stuff to get to maintain the
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job that you have . So why wouldn't your relationship
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be the same way ? And if you met her at
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a certain level and you knew , like you
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could tell this girl expensive , it's not that she just
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surprised you with it . Like she came out of the woodworks
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like I want to leave the time , I want you to , I want
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spa days , all kind of stuff . No , normally those women
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are up front about what they need and what they
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want . So if you approach her at your 30k
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talking about you gonna , you know , gotta tick me , as I am
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. No , sir , move on . 30k
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has Other things attached to
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it , like he's got , like it's my 30k , it's
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my regular salary . But I have a side also where I'm doing
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this or whatever , or I'm trying to grow this or I'm
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you have a plan in and that
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you're actually working towards that I could see like how this is what
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he's going for . Fine with it , do
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you ? Like it doesn't matter to me . I
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I'm working and having my own anyway . Um
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, but then it just . I
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guess it gets down to like , if we're gonna be paying
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for things and taking care of stuff
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, like who's gonna be bearing the brunt of that ? I
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personally feel like some things aren't gonna be 50-50
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. Like whoever's making more is gonna have to
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be putting in a little bit more . It's like why would you wanna
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downplay or like , basically
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, why would you wanna make
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it harder for your partner to be with you because you want
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50-50 ? That's
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interesting .
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That's interesting , because I think that I don't think that's
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. I mean , I don't all the
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way think that's unfair only because people , if
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you're used to a certain lifestyle , should
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you have to go down in that lifestyle to
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be with a certain individual ? I don't think that
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a lot of people are yeah yeah , I mean , you know
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it's different when you meet somebody
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. at a certain point y'all are coming up together , but
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it's very but , I think once people are established
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and they're used to certain things maybe
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they're used to vacations , maybe they're used to a certain
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kind of lifestyle they've already provided for themselves
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then why would you take a step down for
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somebody else ? I do think that that is it , not
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that's it , but I do think that that's fair . I should say
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you know that particular requirement is
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fair . But I don't think where I think it's kind of crazy
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is when it's way more than what the person
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is providing themselves . So
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that means , let's say , you're at a 30K person and
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you want a person that's making like $150,000
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, but you're making like 30 , 40 yourself , you
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know , then I think , like you're just looking for somebody to kind
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of take care of you , to a certain degree Right
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, I come up and I don't necessarily
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. I've never dated
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women like that . Personally , I
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don't want somebody that
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I have to like write off on my taxes like can I
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claim you ?
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You know what I mean , you know what .
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I mean , you know what I mean ? I depend it . No
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, I don't want to depend , and it's weird . It's weird Because I
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feel like , just from relationship standpoint in general , I
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think the best ones are based on 50-50 effort
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50-50 effort .
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I like that 50-50 effort .
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Mental effort is not always money
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effort , because I think you're right , if a person is
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one person is making more , the other person can make that
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up in other ways . So
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I think a 50-50 mental effort into making
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that relationship work I think
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is not an unfair
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situation . Now , one of the things you said before was having
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a we're talking about the
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list is having a list that
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eliminates a certain portion of
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the population . So is
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there a certain percentage like
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that becomes a red flag on somebody's
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deal breaker list , like you have a deal breaker
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that eliminates like 80% . Now I
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can tell you what one of those deal breakers would be . If
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somebody says I want somebody who makes six figures
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, you've just eliminated a good
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percentage of the population With
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just that one . With just that one would
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you have a good percentage of the population . Just that one
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deal breaker . You've eliminated a good percentage
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of the population at that point . And then that
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percentage of the population has a lot of options
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, so a lot of people feel
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like to know they fit into those options , wouldn't
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?
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you think it's gonna be , don't .
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It's gonna be some wake
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up calls there . You know what I mean . If
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they keep pursuing that line . There's
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a lot of people who are vying for that . Is
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there a certain percentage of the population that you feel
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like is kind of like restrictive , like
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yo , you can have it , because
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we can all have our preferences , but is
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there a certain amount of like realistic realism
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that we kind of have to interject into these things
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so that you have a realistic
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proposition of finding somebody ? Or
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do you wait till you're like a hundred and
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then you know , maybe you get a hundred .
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I mean somebody's finding them . They're not
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getting these things out of nowhere . You know
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it's something , it's coming from something , so the
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people that are around , I think it's the internet right , because when you
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look on the internet you can see that 1% .
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I can see the 1% on social media . I can
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see people shopping , doing
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, living a certain lifestyle that looks like
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it's bigger than what the actual percentage is
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if I'm looking on social media . So I feel like , hey
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, it's so easily attainable but
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it's not necessarily realistic
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in life , Like statistics don't bear that out , you
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know .
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True . I
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have mixed feelings with that because I feel like a lot of people who
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have those expectations . They have other qualities or things
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that they know are desirable to
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a certain subset of people .
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Is that just like being ?
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hot . No , not necessarily
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because there's more to being hot , especially when you're
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doing different business stuff Like it
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can lead a lot of
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, I would say , clout to a man in a
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business setting . If your wife is hot , if
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your friends want her , it is constant
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boost and other things . So I feel like
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but it goes back to what you said like it's that
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50-50 effort , like her effort needs to match yours
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. So if your income's at a certain level , she's
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got to be at certain level as far as what you want
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for looks , what you want for physicality , all that kind of stuff
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, and be okay with that .
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So there's that trade off ? Have you ever looked at somebody's significant other and
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felt that way Like look at somebody's significant other ? I've never looked
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at somebody's significant other .
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You don't think of Dr .
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Parr . Well , I've never looked at somebody's
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significant other and use that as a feel
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for like , how good or bad
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that guy may be . Like I've never seen
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his like . Oh , that's a bad woman . He must be
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this , or you know what I mean . I've never equated
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that . Now I've seen it underneath , now I have
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seen it . If there is a massive
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disparity in the looks
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like you know what I mean . You see , one person
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like one is way more attractive than
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the other then maybe you're thinking
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like yo could
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be something there you know what I mean , but
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I haven't really done it with just like a mutual
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, like a close to attraction
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. See a guy with a trophy wife , so
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to speak , and feel like he's a better human
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being of any sort . You know what I mean .
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I feel like it depends when . So
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, background wise , I used to be in commercial real estate
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and real estate can be very incredibly
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superficial about how you look and how you carry yourself
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. It sells , you know that's what it is . I
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will say that there's been conversations with people
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and they felt that if their
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significant other wasn't up to
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par as far as , like , educational
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, background , looks or whatever didn't fit in with
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the rest of the group , they would not do business
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with them . They take being
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a single man is not good in
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some of these business circles . You need to have someone
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else with you , you need to have a significant other , because they
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feel like if you can't hold a relationship , especially not
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on the long term , then why would they do business with
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you long term , like it ? becomes
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kind of like a qualifier .
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It's interesting because I feel like that can lead to a lot of
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people being deceived . If you're looking at these things that
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don't necessarily have factual correlations
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and they're just correlations in your head , then
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that leads to you being able to be deceived in that way . That's why people
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can dress a certain way and deceive people right . That's why
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people can look the part and
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deceive you because you are drawing a correlation that's
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not really there . You know the business correlation
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is going to be value proposition . You know , either
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the value proposition is good or it's not . The
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value proposition has nothing to do with who you're dating , who
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you're married to you see what I'm saying it can
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.
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That's why you see so many people saying these relationships when
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other one's cheating , doing all this crazy
15:30
stuff but money is on the line .
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Is that a cheaper to keep her ? Is that a cheaper to keep her
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type situation or a cheaper to keep him type
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situation ?
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Yeah , I feel like that plays a role , because it's not just
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financial when you're saying cheap to keep him , it's
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also status-wise , it's
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also social clout . It
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carries weight and when you're ostracized from
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that because you divorced
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or split or whatever , it can be an issue
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.
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That's interesting , so like in order to stay in there , yeah . Do
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you feel like people are so in
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tune to that ? Because I think a lot of times
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, when it comes to people and the public
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in general , people are kind of like they
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have tunnel vision for their own lives , lots of them not even
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paying attention to your life , like that . You know what
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I mean . And I feel like a lot of people put a big emphasis
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on the , on the
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public's interest , like as if the public is
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interested in you that much . When
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the public is not all the
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way paying attention To you . Maybe they , maybe they see you with
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an attractive woman and think like , hey , this is a guy who's
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got it all together . Maybe , but that's why I was a
16:26
person themselves .
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It depends on your , your friend
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group . So the big thing right now is being like on
16:31
, take up , they have their , their whole friend groups and stuff
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. So I feel like in order to fit in
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certain friend groups , you have to be a certain way and have certain
16:38
things . So you know , if
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you end up losing those things , because Whatever
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circumstances it you can be , you can be on the outs
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. Nobody wants , everybody wants to be included . So
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it's not necessarily that like societal , like you're
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gonna be I , nobody's
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really paying attention to you , all kind of stuff . It's more so the people
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that I'm already in with I don't want to be
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on the out , I want to be included , I want to , I
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want to be a part of the bigger group or have these
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kind of things . It's almost like when people say like , oh
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, like you're a certain age , you should have these things , or
17:05
this kind of milestone , or why don't you have kids when
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you're married ? All this other stuff . The same thing .
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I . I Feel
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like it's . It's rough for people who pay a
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ton of attention to these societal pressures because
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I Haven't . I
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mean , I'm pretty popular in my circles
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and I put in zero effort , put
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in no , zero
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effort . I could just not .
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But personality , isn't it maybe
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?
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I guess I mean because it's a
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situation where I Don't
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know how people care about these things . I don't
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. That's why my social media is so horrible , like I
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have no clue how people care
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about what strangers think
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, because it's like if you , if
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you're not here when
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those bills are , if you're not putting anything on these bills
17:52
, you're not here in these tough times . Why do
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I care about what you think otherwise , like you're
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, you're not really a factor in my life like
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that . So your perspective you're the anarchy
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factor .
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You're not the norm . That's
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my wish me is so big . You see , these influences
18:06
, I've got millions of people follow them . That's not
18:08
that's not for no reason . It's
18:11
not out of the blue , they're influenced .
18:13
Well , you saw the one AI influencer right
18:16
. That was like an . Ai blind blonde
18:18
woman . Hey , I very real . He had
18:20
like mad followers . She's
18:23
not even a person , his
18:26
imagination and she had a
18:28
lot more followers than real human
18:30
beings walking this earth .
18:33
And I bet you she had a certain way because people
18:35
expected a certain thing out of her . So it's like yo
18:37
.
18:39
From a guy stand for my other tractor standpoint
18:41
. Of course it's got me super official standpoint like
18:43
hey , I'll cook . I don't mind seeing her pop up on my feet every
18:45
now and then . You know she's attractive . But I
18:48
don't think there's any substance to that . You can't you
18:51
can't have You're never gonna meet
18:53
this human being because they're not real .
18:55
It's no different than your favorite celebrity . Like
18:57
they have a whole idea of who this person is
18:59
, what they stand for , your favorite actor or
19:02
act literally the same thing they have . They
19:04
made a whole narrative in their head about what
19:06
this person stands for , who they are , how they'll
19:09
interact with me . If they'll See me one time at a concert
19:11
will lock eyes and they'll be so into me .
19:13
We'll follow right , I might pull you up on stage
19:15
and everything . I'll just go ahead and ride off into the sunset
19:17
.
19:17
Yeah , all I had to do by the album
19:20
when we're this out , that
19:23
is very real , oh
19:25
that is hilarious . And
19:29
me being who I am , I'm like I don't understand it
19:31
, but I know it's there and I get it Especially
19:33
working in like sales and leasing
19:36
and everything else .
19:37
I'm sure it's
19:40
like attractive sales departments
19:42
there . So we're
19:45
gonna go down our list because we have about rough almost
19:47
another 10 or 15 minutes . We're gonna our list real quick . We
19:49
do like a rapid-fire situation . So
19:51
we're gonna do like is it superficial , worry to talk about
19:53
the race and Did
19:55
you go superficial or do we go just preference on that
19:57
? Prefer you particular ? It's a preference , but it's
19:59
not like a deal breaker . And
20:02
how do you feel like that is for other people ? I guess
20:04
because you feel that way about black men , I guess imagine
20:07
you wouldn't feel negative about other people having that same
20:09
perspective , about Only dating
20:11
one race or not dating specific
20:13
races and stuff like that you don't like that's just
20:15
a racist situation . That's just a preference .
20:17
I feel like it depends , when it arises
20:20
to a level to where you're putting
20:22
down others because of it , like
20:25
if your preference Also requires
20:27
you to be like I can't stand this other
20:29
stuff , or you know , literally like a visceral
20:32
reaction . Like you , I Think
20:35
it's wrong . I don't think that's right . Like I
20:37
, I prefer not to eat rice , but
20:40
I eat it sometimes . You know it goes
20:42
hand-in-hand with sushi . So
20:49
I feel like when it gets to the point where it's
20:51
like I'm putting down all Asian
20:54
food because I don't like rice , or all Indian
20:56
food or African food because I don't like rice , like
20:58
it doesn't make any sense , especially
21:01
when what you're saying is detrimental
21:03
to people because it's it's degrading
21:05
and the people see you doing this and it
21:08
just doesn't make sense . Like why and then also you're
21:10
, you're creating such a broad stroke over
21:13
a whole area of people
21:15
or personalities or anything like that Like
21:17
why would you count all of them out ? Because
21:20
then it's like not all the same , everybody
21:22
is different , everybody has different nuances , quarks
21:24
, all kind of stuff up bringing that play a role to
21:26
who they are as a person . So you would rather
21:28
not even get a chance to experience
21:30
All these mini characters and
21:32
the way these different attributes
21:35
can combine and become somebody like you're . Like now
21:37
, I want to give that a chance . I just don't like
21:39
it . No , done .
21:40
That's very interesting . I'm very interesting
21:42
and I totally , I totally agree
21:44
with their over generalizations . I'm not
21:47
, I can't stand that . Now , this
21:49
was a little more interesting . We're about religion a little
21:51
more interesting , right ? Because it can be
21:53
a deal breaker for a lot of people , whether it's Jewish
21:55
or Muslim or Christian or wherever , whatever
21:57
it may be . Do you feel that is it's
22:00
a preference or is that kind
22:02
of like a legit I
22:05
so to speak .
22:07
I have mixed feelings on that too , because , although
22:11
I would like somebody to align with
22:13
my beliefs , just because this makes it Once
22:16
again , it just sets a standard for how how we're gonna
22:18
continue our lives together . I
22:20
think it also gets more complicated when you have
22:22
Children or family members that are in the
22:25
mix as well , that feel like you be performing
22:27
certain traditions , rituals and things like
22:29
that . It can be incredibly
22:31
complicated . So I feel like when you don't fully
22:34
understand how
22:37
your religion plays a role in your life or you don't
22:39
have your own , you're not firm in your religion or in the other person
22:41
that you're . You're wanting to partner
22:43
with they . You
22:46
guys don't explore that together , how
22:48
you're , how your religion fit together , pretty much because
22:50
if you have kids , it's like who's who's religion your
22:53
kids gonna have right , yeah
22:55
. And then now
22:58
your kids are in the middle and then it's
23:00
like or if mom and dad , your parents , want
23:02
them to be a certain way , or they want this to happen
23:04
at this age because it's how it's supposed
23:06
to be , or it becomes up , you're break
23:09
kids , going to hell because they don't believe this way . You know it
23:11
can be right very , very
23:13
hard to navigate . So I feel like
23:15
you need to Definitely
23:17
explore that before you guys go
23:19
to the next level in your relationship or want to pursue that
23:21
, because if you don't have a good Understanding of how these things
23:23
are gonna affect you long term and I feel like you're
23:25
you're doing a disservice to each other . But
23:27
I feel like that's the same thing with going and having
23:30
Interracial marriage or having a religion
23:32
or or other other purposes that people have
23:34
or other Things that they are
23:36
standards that they have . I feel like you're not open and honest
23:38
with that beforehand and truly communicating and thinking
23:41
about how this is gonna affect us long term in
23:43
our relationship , then it what's
23:45
the point you're just playing around here's
23:47
gonna cause more problems in the long run .
23:50
Okay , I mean , I'm very open
23:53
. I'm an open person , though man I am all
23:55
. It's because I , because of this next
23:57
one , I'm gonna ask them . I've been had
24:00
a lot of experiences in different types
24:02
of experiences . I don't know if I've ever dated
24:04
anybody that was Muslim , I don't
24:06
think a few different religions
24:08
, but I do think that there is legit legitimacy
24:11
to discussing this one , in particular because
24:13
of what you said before , like what do we do on
24:15
certain days ? Maybe you go on Sunday
24:17
, maybe we go Saturday , like when there's a lot
24:19
of things that would need to be discussed from religious standpoint . Now
24:23
, this one is similar to race , but they're not
24:25
exactly the same , and this is could be culture or nationality
24:27
, because we know you can be black , brown , white in all and
24:29
a lot of different cultures and nationalities
24:31
. So this one is
24:33
one that's been amazing for me
24:35
is Dating women from different
24:37
cultures been absolutely eye-opening
24:40
. Amazing for me , because
24:43
you get such a this , you
24:45
can read about another culture and stuff
24:47
like that , but it's very different when you're with somebody
24:49
from that culture and you're seeing , you're living
24:52
that culture , right . It's very , very different
24:54
situation . So I Think
24:58
this is maybe just a preference , but you may have
25:00
people . I can see this in
25:02
and I'm gonna use the Ukraine Russian thing
25:04
as an example here Because
25:07
of the conflict that that exists here right
25:09
now with Ukraine and Russia . So I could see maybe
25:12
somebody not wanting to be with somebody
25:14
. If you're Ukrainian , I could see you not one
25:16
to be with somebody's Russian , especially right now
25:18
, just due to everything's not to say that that person Sympathizes
25:21
with Russia is not to say that person believes
25:24
because there's up there , just because you're Russian doesn't mean you sympathize
25:26
with what Putin and what's going on
25:28
yeah country you know what I mean . We know
25:30
that from just being in the United States . Right Like yeah . I
25:33
agree with everything that's going on in your country
25:35
, but I but I would get it . You
25:37
know what I mean . It'd be a . It'd be a get if you're
25:39
just like hey , for right now at least , now , I'm
25:41
just not gonna date anybody from that particular culture
25:43
. Do you fight ? This is something that is more
25:45
superficial or legitimate preference there
25:47
.
25:49
I Feel
25:51
like it's more superficial a little bit , because it
25:54
goes back to what you said , like you can't put
25:56
the weight of the whole nation's decisions on somebody
25:58
. But I feel like it's
26:00
something that you personally can't get past and you will look at
26:02
this person a certain way . It'll cause Not
26:06
necessarily envy , but like animosity
26:09
is it like resentment , so to speak ? yeah , yeah
26:11
, some resentment . I think
26:13
that that's since your mate . You're grown enough
26:15
to make that Known beforehand
26:17
. I think that's acceptable . I
26:19
feel like if you were to go into that relationship and they may be
26:22
like , oh , I can't really do this
26:24
because of this , or you start treating that person a certain
26:26
way and they're like what's going on ? Like you
26:28
were totally and you love bombing me . Before
26:30
we are great and now
26:32
it's an issue . I want you to change who you
26:34
are as a person now , because I can't deal with it . I
26:36
think that's why it rises the level of a red
26:38
flag .
26:40
Okay , so then let's go to . We're down
26:42
to like the last three year . Let's go to Wait
26:45
. This is wait is always a big one , because people
26:48
have what they like . Some
26:50
people like bigger women , some people like smaller
26:52
women , some people like bigger guys , some people
26:54
like smaller guys . We were like big guys , muscle
26:57
guys , and I've been it . Someone who don't like that
26:59
muscle no , that big muscle look
27:01
. Is this superficial
27:04
or a legitimate preference ?
27:07
I feel as though it's superficial . Wow
27:10
, a little bit is
27:13
, because if
27:15
You're looking at is this
27:17
person can't change from what they were
27:19
when you first met them , it's , it's superficial
27:22
. But if you're looking at it
27:24
as , like you know , I just want you to be fit
27:26
and healthy , I can
27:28
, I can roll with that , because who doesn't ?
27:30
I want my partner Would date
27:32
any any guy of any weight
27:34
like . Do you feel like you would do that ?
27:37
Uh , it depends . I'm not necessarily attracted
27:39
to bigger guys , but it depends on how big that
27:41
that is .
27:42
If they're not healthy . That's where I'm kind of here with
27:44
the , with the legitimate preference . I think it's more
27:46
your attraction , your attraction , right .
27:48
But if they're not healthy , I don't want anything to do with
27:50
it , because you don't . If you can't take care of you , how do you take care of me ? And
27:53
that's it so like being like
27:55
a stockier guy . Now , fine
27:57
, personalities . On point , I'm here More
28:00
to live . Throw me up , I Know
28:03
. I mean I would like for them not to be skinnier
28:05
than me . I'm just like you look hungry and I don't
28:07
feel like yo .
28:10
You gotta find the eat the eat a sandwich crowd
28:12
there . So You're
28:14
somewhere in between here and you know . So
28:17
you went superficial on this , I'm gonna , I
28:19
would go legitimate preference on
28:22
these . Oh well , on these last three , all
28:24
three , and then you can kind of just give me
28:26
what your perspective is on the last two , because
28:29
I believe , like that feeling of
28:31
attraction that you may get , it's
28:34
like a feeling right to know . Like it , you
28:36
know how you may , and especially
28:39
in the world of like online dating , you might have some
28:41
people that date in their their writing
28:43
and not even online dating , long
28:46
distance dating , right , like people can date
28:48
somebody long distance for a very long
28:50
time and they call it that spark , but when you meet
28:52
them it's not that spark , it's just not it's
28:55
just not there , right . So
28:57
it's kind of like is that being
29:00
superficial or is that just a spark ? Is legit
29:03
not there .
29:08
Oh , because I feel like , because do long
29:10
, I've done long distance relationships and I feel like
29:12
the person that you make
29:14
up in your head and the person that might be in front of you
29:16
when you actually meet them Can be two different people .
29:18
So I can do your man size right on that front end
29:21
right .
29:21
Yeah , and when you're actually in the same room , you're like
29:23
you , you pick up on things . You know what is things about
29:25
this person that you can't see through the camera
29:27
or on the phone . So of
29:30
course it would change . You'd be like . You know I'm not actually
29:32
into you , but I feel like attracting itself , I
29:34
Traction itself
29:37
it . I feel like it's
29:39
kind of superficial because you can
29:41
, it can come and go . I
29:43
feel like desire matters more than
29:46
attraction . Attraction gets you in the door .
29:49
It gets you to each other . Are they , like , related to each
29:51
other to a certain degree ?
29:52
There is a relation , but I feel like desires
29:54
more long-term It'll , it'll
29:57
, it'll . Last years I can desire
29:59
this person , you know , and people go
30:01
after war and they come back like
30:03
I still won't .
30:03
you , babe , dear John , letters
30:06
like that was this oh , that
30:09
that's interesting because I would one
30:11
like , I feel like , if you're maintaining the first
30:13
thing , like so if we were saying like , let's
30:15
say that . And me personally
30:17
I have not when
30:19
it comes to the wait situation , I
30:21
prefer in the middle and actually more
30:24
like I would prefer heavier than lighter
30:26
, to be honest with you , but
30:29
at the same time I don't , I Can't
30:33
say I think for the long-term situation
30:35
, because in the beginning you have such the Honeymoon
30:40
effect , the nail there in that beginning
30:42
that's gonna get you through a lot at honeymoon effects . I'm
30:44
sure you do a lot of stuff , man , and
30:46
then , when that honeymoon effect starts to weigh off , if you
30:48
went against what your natural preference is
30:51
and Then you keep going
30:53
out into the world and you see in that preference over
30:55
and , over and over again , I think it's gonna wear away
30:57
at you at a certain point . I don't think that it's the
30:59
Indulge it all be at all , because I'm we're not talking
31:02
, I'm talking about it . Personalities are good here I'm not necessarily
31:04
gonna talk about , because we know there can be a
31:06
wide range of these outcomes based on personality
31:09
, right ? So for sure I'm not gonna . I'm
31:11
talking as if the personalities are good
31:13
and you're just kind of looking at the
31:16
, these other things that may have attracted to you , to the
31:18
person to begin with , you know , may attract you to
31:20
walk up to that person or that person to walk up to you to
31:23
begin with . So that's
31:25
it on weight . And what about the height ?
31:28
For me . I think it's more the height
31:31
matters .
31:33
I .
31:36
Would say legitimate .
31:40
Not legitimate on the way , but legitimate on the
31:42
height because the way place world and you're being
31:44
healthy .
31:44
A height necessarily doesn't .
31:46
I mean , some people are like running stuff , they're
31:48
just big bone people like some people .
31:49
I'm saying if you're healthy , I'm fine with that .
31:51
You can be healthy , it doesn't matter if
31:54
you're , if the person is actually healthy , because
31:56
they are healthy , yeah , who just like just no
31:58
bigger people ?
31:59
Yeah , there's been what I call it . Was
32:01
it I found the skinny fat ? Or like
32:03
your skinny person , but you're not healthy .
32:05
Yeah , absolutely for sure .
32:07
I it comes from all directions for that stuff
32:09
, but I feel as a height only
32:11
reason why I would say a height is not superficial
32:14
, because the mentality
32:17
plays a role and , being a taller woman
32:19
, I find that a lot of times when I'm with a
32:21
shorter guy . It's an issue , it's
32:24
very taller woman .
32:25
Are you like six , three or you like basketball ?
32:27
player status .
32:29
Okay , so then , what is the minimum
32:31
then ? Danelle , minimum
32:34
of height , you lower that you would go
32:36
.
32:37
I would do , I height .
32:38
I gotta . So this other guy has to be
32:40
at least six feet himself .
32:42
Yes , because I find most of the ones who are
32:44
six feet or over . They don't have the same kind of mental
32:48
hardships with
32:50
me being tall .
32:51
Wow , mental hardships .
32:53
It almost is , because it comes a lot of attention
32:55
. A
32:57
lot of them aren't used to that or aren't ready for that
32:59
. They see the height difference and they're just like
33:01
, oh , little man , you're going to get a lot of jokes , a lot of jabs
33:04
.
33:04
and because I'm with them , it takes a very
33:06
secure guy right .
33:07
Yeah , I think that's what I'm trying to get at Like . I find
33:10
when they're shorter than me , it tends
33:12
to be a lot of insecurities that come along with me being
33:14
taller . Then they have a lot of requirements as far
33:16
as I don't want you to wear heels and all
33:18
this other stuff .
33:19
Oh yeah , man , I mean me personally . I'm 5'9"
33:21
, 6'5" , 3 to 4 inch heels
33:23
. You disappeared on me .
33:25
Yeah , pretty much . I'm looking at the head like
33:27
I
33:29
can literally put my chin like . But
33:31
yo .
33:32
Denel , is this a situation that a lot of guys
33:34
some guys are more secure than others
33:36
, though you know what I mean . There's some guys I have friends
33:38
who date taller women
33:40
and they're very secure . They're not . You
33:42
know , they're not .
33:43
I haven't yet to find one that is . I'm
33:45
fine with that . I can do a short keying , so is
33:47
it ?
33:48
just , is it so for you in particular
33:50
, denel ? It comes down to the security standpoint
33:53
. Like the insecure which I find , like a lot of women
33:55
don't like in any perspective , by the way , like that
33:57
insecurity tends to be a turnoff across the board
33:59
, across a bunch of different spectrums
34:01
. You know what I mean . All
34:04
right , so now this was kind of
34:06
a little bit different , because we
34:08
talked about this before and we talked about this people
34:11
having preferences for , like , hair type , where
34:13
the dread , the fade , the
34:16
whatever a woman might have a
34:18
perspective for or a preference for for
34:20
a guy's hair type and vice versa . So
34:23
I would say that hair maybe in general , if
34:25
we're talking about hair type , length type
34:27
, color , stuff of that nature
34:30
, so the color can change right , can't you
34:32
? You can change your hair color if you
34:34
wanted to . But if somebody does
34:36
change it , let's say that you meet the guys got
34:38
the dreads and there's no regular dreads , and
34:41
then you pops up two
34:43
weeks later he's got the purple , hot top fade . How
34:45
do you feel about it ?
34:47
Hair is like so pretty and it can be changed , and
34:50
that's that's pretty much how I feel it . It
34:52
I changed mine . Do you feel like you didn't grow those dreads ? How
34:54
long is it ?
34:54
going to take when the dreaded grows those dreads back .
34:56
It's going to be a minute you talk about you didn't ? No , it's going to be a minute
34:58
. They got a dread . Now you see them again . Yo
35:00
, you want to . You want to be this much . Extensions is what you're telling
35:02
them now . Can you do extensions ? You asked me that . You asked me that . You asked me that . You asked me that . You asked me that .
35:07
Do you do and be right back at the
35:09
game . So yo , you're anything to know . You pop it because
35:11
I'm going to have some require . You didn't pop enough . I'm
35:13
not anything .
35:14
I'm not anything I don't . I prefer not
35:16
to have dreads I I
35:19
like them on people , just not on the people I'm with
35:21
. Yikes , I
35:23
prefer I prefer fade , but that's for a different
35:25
reason .
35:27
So so you wouldn't if
35:30
the dreads so let's say those fake dreads did show up , this
35:32
didn't . You're going to be like yo take those dreads off . Like , are
35:34
you going to be like yo ? You got to rock with it .
35:36
I would not be enthused . But if you get
35:38
them done in there , uh , you have the upkeep
35:40
for it , Do you know it's not
35:42
going to change . I'm like , uh , no , I don't want you , no more
35:45
.
35:46
So it's not going to matter a lot to your personal attraction
35:48
level . So you feel like that is more superficial
35:50
than you'd put that than legitimate preference .
35:53
I would say it's more superficial because , like I said , it's hair is an accessory
35:55
, you can change it , I can wear different wigs , all that stuff , Cause
35:57
you can get the people who are like , oh no , I don't want you , you know
35:59
so wins , no , none of that stuff . Blah , blah , blah . I
36:02
was like bro . Sometimes you even tell he
36:04
ain't got a clue .
36:05
Wow , goodness gracious , I
36:09
personally like certain
36:12
things . Well , no , I like certain
36:14
types of hair styles , like , so it's
36:17
. When it comes to that , like I'm not
36:19
a one style guy , I'll tell you that I'm not like
36:22
I'm not married to . Like it's gotta be
36:24
, I gotta . I'm not pulling the ruler out and stuff
36:26
like that . That's , that's ridiculous . You're not
36:28
going to bobbin it . No , I'm not . I'm not
36:30
going to be that guy . But at the same time , I
36:32
think that , just like you can have that spark . We
36:34
talked about the things that may attract and now there's
36:36
things that unattract people Like
36:39
it is possible , it is , it is out
36:41
there . I don't know if sugarcoating
36:44
that makes things better . Like to act like that . It's
36:47
just not a thing . Like attraction
36:49
is not a thing , just the way attraction is . You know
36:51
what I mean . Like there's just you
36:53
want to take anything , right ? I
36:55
don't want somebody and and this is
36:57
not we're taking out all of the medical situations
37:00
here that may cause any issues Right ? So
37:02
somebody breaks their leg and you want people
37:04
who can walk when they break their leg , then okay . And
37:06
then if you're okay with people
37:09
who may go through , uh , cancer treatments and stuff of
37:11
that nature , I believe that you're . It's kind of
37:13
a jerk move .
37:13
Are you saying no to girls or things ? I'm out of here . Are
37:16
you saying no to girls or things ? No , no , no , not
37:18
for me .
37:18
I don't want us to be able to go , if we can go , both
37:21
beginning , shaped up at the same time . I don't , I
37:23
don't , I don't . It's not for me , it's
37:25
not for me , but at the same time I've seen
37:27
him like that's . That's a nice look , a woman , you know what . I
37:29
mean yeah , and I don't think
37:31
that that woman should care what anybody else's
37:33
thinks to eat it .
37:34
So you see , what I'm saying .
37:35
It's a situation where my specific
37:37
preference is my specific preference , but
37:39
I believe that about every human being though Everybody's
37:42
you know what I mean I think you're entitled to that . You're entitled
37:44
to live the life . If you want your high top , go get your
37:46
high top . Hey , forget what any dude saying . You know that's
37:48
inclusive of myself . Forget it what anybody's saying , um
37:51
, but I do believe that if you have an
37:53
object desire and you want that specific
37:56
person , you might want to tune into
37:58
what they attracts them Like . I don't think that's crazy
38:00
.
38:00
No , I agree , no , no , I agree
38:02
with that because I feel I , as
38:04
a woman , like , I want to be attracted to the , to the
38:06
man that I'm with .
38:07
So of course .
38:08
I'm going to . I'm going to hear what he wants . So I'm going to hear
38:10
about , like , what preferences he has or what he
38:12
, what he doesn't , doesn't like , and I will
38:14
most likely go along with that because it doesn't
38:16
matter to me , it is what it is , it doesn't
38:18
bother me . It's not like
38:20
he's asking me to go under , like undertake surgery
38:22
or anything .
38:24
That's what I'm ridiculous , you know . You guys out
38:26
there who are like that to know tell you I
38:28
need you go get shaped up , I need you , I need you to
38:30
go see somebody .
38:32
He doesn't send me recommendations for a doctor , like no
38:34
, we're not doing that .
38:36
I know you see that out there in LA .
38:37
But if he was like , no , I know you see that out there . If
38:40
he was like sometimes I like you , I like them . Sweats
38:42
with a , with a messy bun , I'll rock that . I
38:44
want it because you want to be attracted to the person with you with
38:46
. So I don't . I don't have a problem with that , but
38:48
when it gets to the point where it's like you
38:50
, I either you got to wear this all the time
38:53
or you got to look at this all the time . or , you
38:55
know , maybe they're going through something and , like they , they
38:57
fall out of that , or for a moment , or whatever . Or
38:59
it's something like I genuinely don't like this
39:01
. Please don't make me do these things
39:03
. Like you would hope that they would be able to change their preference
39:05
to find something different , like there's such a variety
39:08
in in things that you could be attracted
39:10
to , like find something else .
39:12
Is there . Is that , then , room for conversation
39:15
, cause some people that's an undercomfortable conversation
39:17
to have and I feel like me personally , I
39:19
definitely feel like you should have every
39:21
conversation in relationships If it's on your
39:23
mind , other person doesn't
39:25
owe you mind reading . You
39:28
know you should let them know this is how you
39:30
feel about a situation they didn't see if hopefully
39:32
it could get worked out , because you never know if it can
39:34
right , and sometimes people what they end up doing
39:36
is going and finding that other person and they never
39:39
talked to them about the
39:41
, the high top eight or the dreads . They never
39:43
had that conversation . They never talked to
39:45
them about cutting their hair to a certain length . Or maybe
39:47
you're a person who likes blondes and then maybe
39:49
they come back , they've died in a different color . Maybe your person
39:51
doesn't like blondes . They've come back and they've died at blonde . You
39:53
see what I'm saying . Like there's a lot of different types
39:56
of things of these natures that can be definitely superficial
39:59
, but I believe you're owed that a
40:01
little bit . When it comes to nobody has
40:03
to date every human being , like nobody
40:05
has to be attracted to every human being for
40:07
for a PC purpose Cause I believe . I think
40:09
it's more politically
40:12
correct to say that that's what
40:14
you would do . Right To not really eliminate anybody
40:16
. Anyone can get it . Somebody's
40:19
going to get mad on that other . You know what I mean . So
40:23
, but I think that even that person doesn't
40:25
date every person and that's what I had to tell my friends
40:27
. I'm like well , you might say this about different
40:30
cultures and everything but you that they don't date
40:32
everybody themselves . They have people they've curved
40:34
. I'm like , how did you think they felt when you curve
40:36
them ? Like so I
40:39
think sometimes people look at these things and
40:42
feel like they don't want to hurt somebody's feelings , so
40:44
they don't say nothing about them , but then they
40:46
go out when they're caught on a cheater . You're
40:48
watching show cheaters . I'm going through a cheaters page
40:50
right now and I've been watching . I've
40:52
been watching cheaters .
40:53
But a rabbit hole .
40:54
I'm a lot , I have it on YouTube
40:56
and it's quite a bit for anybody who wants to get out there
40:58
and watch us nightly . Watch you here the last couple
41:00
of weeks here .
41:02
But I feel like it goes back to being
41:04
flexible within that too , like , if you're
41:06
, if you want , there's no room for compromise
41:08
and the why are you going to have a relationship ? You
41:11
got to be room . Like , say , I like blond , like
41:13
she's , she dyed her hair red . I'm like , well , can you
41:15
do a strawberry blonde babe ? Like
41:18
find a middle ground .
41:20
How do we work our way back to ?
41:21
I mean , you might find out that you had something that
41:23
you liked , that you didn't know they might surprise
41:26
you with a look and you're like oh yes , I'm
41:28
good with this Like experiment
41:31
finding . I feel like that . I go back to what you were saying Communication
41:33
is key . I feel like you should definitely talk about those things
41:35
. So some people will literally move on to the next
41:37
relationship and not even get that other one a chance . That
41:40
is making me think it's like up and late , like 100%
41:43
.
41:43
I'm going to leave there because I can't say anything better
41:45
than that . Danelle , I appreciate you taking some time
41:47
out here .
41:49
No , thank you for having me . I'm going to go . Uh , maybe swim
41:51
for a little bit . Try not to get blown
41:53
away by the winds . Hopefully
41:56
my internet stays . I've already downloaded most of
41:58
Netflix . I'm good .
42:00
Well , well , well , hopefully we'll see on future shows
42:02
if Danelle has been swept away or if she
42:05
is back , which I'm pretty sure . I'm hoping that she
42:07
will be back and definitely appreciate her taking some time
42:09
out here this Reggie Natio , check us out to
42:11
try her radio Google podcast , apple podcast , spotify
42:14
, wherever you find your podcast . See you next time . So
42:16
what's going on there now ? Like are you , like is
42:19
it ? Is it picking up ?
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