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All right , boom . So I'm

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a tail coming to you from love city of Atlanta , georgia , going

0:05

out to the windy city of Chicago

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with J HenryJ . What's up , how's it going bro ?

0:10

What's up , man ? Are you doing brother ?

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Always a pleasure , man . Always a pleasure , life's always

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like what's like ? What's like . You

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know , there's this new thing . I'm not sure

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if you heard about this , jay , but there's this new

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. I wouldn't say it's exactly new

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, because it's been popping like a last couple years and

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you know what a lot of these drugs . Sometimes they've been

0:26

in a pipeline for a long time but you don't start to hear

0:28

about them until people really start to kind

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of take them a lot . So

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there's this drug called Zinpeck . You heard of that

0:35

I .

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Don't you know . Thankfully I don't flow in that

0:40

world like that as far as , like you

0:42

know , performance enhancement drugs , the

0:45

you know I've heard of HGH stack . I've

0:47

heard of , you know , anabolic stuff

0:49

, heard of you know , trt

0:52

, you know , and stuff

0:54

like that . But I don't , I

0:56

don't dabble too deep in that world because

0:58

I don't , I don't partake in that , I don't

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partake in that , you know . And

1:02

then using those substances and stuff

1:05

like that , I mean I know some of them can be our

1:08

legal and our beneficial to

1:10

you know Guys who are getting older and

1:12

they , you know , they're trying to get , you know , energy

1:14

and you know state , muscular , stay , looking

1:16

good and stuff like that . But I've just , I

1:18

haven't needed it yet I don't have a you

1:21

know I need for , yet I don't see

1:23

you doing it yeah .

1:24

I don't you ever really get

1:26

into this , because this is like more of like a weight loss drug

1:28

, so it's like a shot . So it was a drug

1:30

that that was originally

1:32

invented , I think , for like type 2 diabetes , for

1:34

people who can . I guess I don't know

1:37

if they were , like Morbally obese

1:39

, because you know , when it comes to like that obese

1:41

game J , there's levels to it , right , like you have , like

1:43

the people that are like 600 pounds

1:45

, 400 pounds , 200 pounds , and

1:47

it kind of comes down , down and down . So

1:49

originally it was a design for

1:51

people like that in that range

1:53

. But of course skinnier people saw

1:56

that yo , I can take a shot and now I can lose

1:58

weight and I don't have to actually go to the gym

2:00

. So skinnier people started using those impact

2:02

to try

2:05

to try to Get the results

2:07

. Because you know J it's been very

2:09

popular in our lifetime To

2:11

try to come up with a pill or

2:13

the quick solution , bro , like you could just take a pill

2:16

, you don't have to go to the gym , bro , you could take a pill

2:18

and then now your weight just dropping

2:20

off of you , you don't have to do anything

2:22

, and his impact is actually a shot , and

2:25

it's become very popular with a lot

2:27

of people here now the the

2:29

reason I wanted to have this subject review because you're

2:31

a trainee , you know you do like fight training and stuff

2:33

like that , so you the gym was like secondary

2:36

to your life , so to speak , versus

2:38

a lot of people who may see a gym two times

2:40

this decade for a lot of people . Yeah

2:42

, so for for , we're

2:44

gonna talk about a couple of things here , because , being

2:48

when people come to you

2:50

, I know they come to you for a very specific reason . They're

2:52

coming to you to train for for

2:55

is that boxing , ufc fights ? Is it

2:57

just like ? Boxing is kind of where your my

3:00

main focus is just boxing .

3:02

I have tapped into more

3:04

like For a couple

3:06

of ladies , self defense

3:09

, you know , so in . You

3:11

know , and I have a you know a background in

3:13

training and kickboxing and a

3:15

little bit of you know just Translating

3:18

that into what that would be if it was just

3:20

, you know , someone fighting to survive

3:23

as opposed to someone fighting for competition

3:25

. So you know I'll dabble

3:27

in that . I'm not certified in Crop McGar

3:30

. I'm not certified in you know , hand

3:32

to hand combat or Casey

3:34

or something you know of that standard where

3:36

it's just simply all , all

3:39

, just purely self-defense . You know , my

3:41

, my fundamental , my USA certified

3:43

a green level boxing coach , that's

3:45

. That's me right there through and through , and

3:47

so a lot of people come to me to

3:50

get the fundamentals of . You

3:53

know what it means to be , you

3:55

know be a boxer and you

3:58

know picking up some kind of skills , self-defense

4:00

, and then sometimes what people like to do is they

4:03

like to branch out from . You know , because I do have this

4:05

one client where she , she , she

4:07

weight lifts every day , she does

4:10

strength training and weightlifting every day and she

4:12

, you know , she dropped a hundred pounds because of it and

4:14

now she , she wanted to expand . She's been with

4:16

me for quite a while now as far as in

4:18

months and time . She paid for 20

4:20

sessions . She's down to her last three

4:23

. She enjoys it . You

4:25

know she enjoys challenging herself and

4:27

, and you

4:30

know , just being diverse with her fitness

4:32

. You know she wants to continue

4:34

to grow and I Appreciate

4:37

that from any client that I get . Where

4:39

they're , they're there , they put in

4:41

the time , they put in the work . You

4:43

know , even if they make a plane a little

4:45

bit or whatever like that , they know they still came there

4:48

to do the work and stuff like that and she definitely

4:50

, she definitely does that . So I

4:52

definitely salute her with both hands and ensure

4:54

the respect For the fact that she's

4:57

, you know and listen , much

4:59

credit to her . You know , when she paid for those 20

5:01

lessons , she showed up at the time

5:03

she was supposed to be there . She always gave me

5:05

a heads up if she wasn't gonna be there , which was

5:07

very little times where she

5:09

, you know Dropping sessions and

5:11

I can't do it or something like that . So

5:14

you know you

5:16

talked about and I mentioned that because

5:18

you talked about how people are

5:20

always , especially in this era- and even

5:22

earlier before , I want to say

5:24

10 years earlier . People are still just looking

5:26

for instant gratification . Yeah , man , quick

5:28

. You know , like a court , like like , yeah

5:31

, like a quarter zone shot . You know it's like , yes

5:33

, mass the pain , mass the pain , and

5:36

I really feel like that's my , that's

5:39

the wrong way to go , you know it's . It's like

5:41

, you know , when you say about these people who are 500

5:44

, 600 pounds and you

5:46

know , here's my thing , I try not to ever

5:49

Judge someone's

5:51

situation . You

5:54

know , I really do my best not to judge someone's situation

5:56

, but you didn't

5:58

come out the womb . 500 pounds work

6:01

. You know . No , no offense to your mother , but she wouldn't

6:03

have lived . You know . You

6:05

know you don't come out the womb 800,000

6:08

. You know I'm saying you don't come out like that

6:10

. So what was the ? Yes , you

6:12

were probably big , but what was going

6:15

on ?

6:16

other habits , Right , you know .

6:18

I'm saying like I listen , there are very there

6:20

endomorphic people out there . They're naturally

6:22

big people out there , no

6:24

question , but

6:26

it's up to you of what

6:29

you intake . You know and I understand

6:31

everybody's life is different and everybody

6:33

does something different . But I can't

6:36

roll with it a hundred percent . I can't make

6:38

that the sole excuse for everyone , a hundred percent

6:40

. You know

6:42

, because you have a choice and

6:44

being in the fitness circle , you

6:47

know fitness community . You know you get

6:49

all kinds of people that they

6:51

do this , you know , but they

6:53

not , they not actually running , and

6:55

you know lifting and All

6:58

day , but but don't want to put in the work is

7:00

basically what you're saying , and and get away

7:02

from me . You're toxic

7:04

to me . You know no offense , but you

7:06

know just like get away from me . I

7:08

don't want to do , I don't , I don't want to . I don't want to

7:10

hear you in my ear talking

7:12

about what you want to do and you

7:15

know , and what you , what you think you're capable

7:17

of about . Show me , show

7:19

me , you know what are you doing to motivate

7:22

people like that , dave ?

7:22

because I know that when people come to you for that there's

7:24

a certain it's kind of like in any schooling

7:26

. There's like a prerequisite you may need

7:28

to go into another field , right ? So if you're a doctor , maybe

7:30

you need a prerequisite in other medical

7:33

fields before you go into specialization . And

7:35

I would imagine if you're gonna be training for

7:37

, for fighting or any other type

7:39

of training , there's probably a physical prerequisite

7:42

there that , or at least a minimal

7:44

of physical shape you would have to be in before

7:46

you move to that next step . How do you

7:48

, how do you start this ? You say it starts with the mental

7:50

starts . You start training their mental before

7:53

you start training their physicals .

7:54

Here's the here's the thing you can come

7:56

in out of shape scanning , big

7:58

, whatever . What

8:00

are you trying to accomplish ? You

8:03

see , I'm saying what's what's in here is

8:05

gonna get you through , because you

8:08

may not be in the greatest of shape , you may not be

8:10

big or you may be too small or whatever like

8:12

that . I had a guy when

8:14

he had a lot of anxiety issues

8:17

, where he was always

8:19

afraid of trying new things , especially something physical

8:21

. When I met him he was a very you

8:24

know slim guy , wasn't very

8:26

athletic . So I'm

8:28

around the time that I booked his session , it

8:31

couldn't have been better , because around

8:33

the time that he would come in , hardly anyone would

8:35

be there . So the first

8:37

thing was he got to come

8:40

to the gym . See the gym , open

8:42

space , not a lot of energy

8:44

in that meaning you don't know about . He's sparring

8:46

, not a lot of yelling . You know it was

8:48

just perfect because he got

8:51

to just have a one-on-one session with

8:53

me and realize that

8:55

it's it's

8:57

. You know , boxing

8:59

or any combat sport in the beginning

9:02

is very simple . You got to

9:04

learn your stance , your

9:06

center of gravity , you got to have a foundation

9:08

. You're learning how to you

9:10

know walk a certain way , punch

9:12

a certain way . If in kickboxing

9:14

kick a certain way , you know to

9:17

keep , maintain your balance , but you

9:19

know to be effective . You

9:21

know , and all of this and all honesty

9:24

is boring in the beginning

9:26

, is nothing is exciting about it

9:28

. But but there's what the key to that is

9:30

do you have

9:32

the patience to

9:34

learn what needs to be learned before

9:37

you get into all the stuff that you see

9:39

on YouTube ? Or when you walk into

9:41

a gym and you see the guys or the women

9:44

that are experienced in it already , who

9:46

have been doing it for a while , and you see

9:48

them at an advanced level , and I think that's the thing

9:50

some people get intimidated

9:52

by that . Well , what happened with him was

9:55

his wife , because no , I'm sorry

9:57

. So what happened with him was he

9:59

paid for a session and

10:01

then he wasn't gonna come in and

10:04

I actually for some reason I don't normally

10:06

always do this , but I texted him . I'm like , hey , man , you

10:08

are right , because he actually said

10:10

look man , I ain't gonna be able to come in . I can

10:12

tell it was fear , it was

10:14

really of him , not what . Yeah , no , no , what

10:16

gave you that ? what gave you that impression when

10:19

someone wants

10:22

to do something and

10:24

you know they pay for it

10:27

. They put a down payment on it , they lock themselves

10:29

in and then all of a sudden , yeah

10:31

, I found something else . You know I'm good . First

10:34

, the first thing that comes in , people say , especially

10:37

with combat sports , they don't want to

10:39

get hurt . I see

10:41

you see I'm saying they are they are

10:43

they , will they automatically think they're gonna throw

10:45

me in the ring with some killer and I'm

10:47

gonna die ? And I

10:49

constantly have to reassure people

10:52

, like especially at least with me . I can't

10:54

speak for any other coach . I'm

10:56

not gonna do that . You

10:59

know , that's that , first of all . That's not what we do

11:01

here . You know

11:03

that that's not our MO . You

11:05

know our thing is . I said listen , if

11:08

you have an athletic background and you catch

11:10

on to things quick , great , awesome

11:12

, yeah , I mean we can

11:14

definitely move you along a lot quicker . If

11:17

you have no skills , guess what I say to that

11:20

even better . Because

11:22

the ones that I get that are athletic . Sometimes

11:24

they know everything . Okay

11:27

, they , you know they . They sometimes

11:29

they can be mister , and this is no at all , and

11:31

that that can be a job

11:33

in itself for sure .

11:35

So see that in a lot of professions

11:37

.

11:38

Yeah , yeah , oh , my god . But

11:40

with this guy it was just more . He

11:42

was being apprehensive because he wasn't sure about

11:44

himself and he wasn't used to trying new things and

11:47

I just , and I used to be like that . That's

11:49

another reason why identified it . I used to

11:51

be that way when I was younger , when I

11:53

, you know , I wanted I would see stuff on TV

11:55

, I want to try it out . But you know

11:57

, I didn't want to put

12:00

in the dedication . I was laziness

12:02

as well as fear of putting

12:04

myself in an environment that I

12:07

had no clue about . So people

12:09

can become very , you

12:11

know , quick to be dismissive

12:13

of something that they don't understand , because

12:16

of fear you know they'll make , they'll call

12:18

it something else , but it's just fear . And

12:20

so I said I'm not saying , hey , man , are you all

12:22

right ? Why don't you come through and

12:24

just check it out or whatever like that ? So he came

12:26

through his wife , who

12:28

I should be thanking . Actually I never

12:31

met her , but she basically encouraged

12:33

and look , you should go , and

12:35

he tried it out , got through

12:37

it . You know I started very slow

12:40

with him . You know I didn't do anything too hardcore

12:42

with him because I didn't want to scare

12:44

him off . Scare him off for sure . Yeah , you

12:46

know , and stuff like that . But he got through it and then

12:48

he ended up paying for four sessions

12:50

Out of those four sessions . He did

12:53

too . I think maybe the fear got

12:55

back to him again because you know , he texted me

12:57

. God bless him , he did text me

12:59

and he says you know , amen , I found

13:01

something else I would like to do and thank

13:03

you for all your help and your support , because I would always

13:05

push him and I always say amen , you

13:07

can do it , you know , you got this , you know

13:10

or whatever like that . So I think sometimes

13:12

you know , even in combat sports

13:14

, I think it goes beyond just

13:17

the fighting aspect of it . For a lot of people

13:19

it's just confidence , you

13:21

know , a confidence booster , and

13:23

it's not so much that they will become a professional

13:25

fighter or anything like that . It's

13:28

something where and

13:30

this is going beyond the sport of it

13:32

it's just more of the psychology

13:35

of it , where when

13:37

you push yourself in

13:40

something physical let's

13:42

be honest , your personal life

13:44

you start looking at a little bit more differently

13:46

. Because now you

13:49

know , when you push yourself to get that extra

13:51

mile in in the run , or you

13:53

push yourself to go another round on the bag or

13:55

the focus mitts , or you know , get

13:57

those sit-ups in or those push-ups in , you

14:00

start feeling like you know you'll see the difference

14:02

. Or in any sports you get

14:04

to kickboxing , mixed martial arts , whatever

14:06

you know

14:08

, you'll see a change in people with , like I deserve

14:10

a raise , right

14:13

, or hey , I'm

14:16

taking this week off , no

14:18

questions about it . You

14:21

know , I'm going to put in my papers and I'm

14:23

taking this week off and we're going on vacation . I

14:25

need some me time .

14:28

Do you think that makes them more assertive ? Or in

14:30

other parts of their life ? Is that what you feel

14:32

like one of the things that happened

14:34

from a mental perspective ? Well

14:36

, that that's kind of not really advertised

14:39

to a lot of people .

14:41

Absolutely See , but I think

14:43

that's that's , that's part of something that

14:45

you find for yourself . You

14:47

know it's listen . When

14:49

I first got into training people , I was

14:51

very like , how do I do this ? And you

14:54

know , I was , you know , nice guy , and not

14:56

to say I'm not a nice guy now , but I just kind

14:58

of learn how to put my foot down with

15:00

more situations as opposed to

15:02

just accepting what is or whatever . And

15:04

that's that's part of our growth process

15:07

and whatever it is that we're going through . I'm sure you

15:09

had your growth process with you

15:11

just got started with your podcast

15:13

and you know your business and everything

15:15

like that . So you know it's

15:18

a learning , you know that's that learning curve that we

15:20

all go through , you know . But once we get it

15:22

, you know we , we

15:24

look at things differently . You know , we have

15:26

a different perspective on things we have , and

15:29

then we have a newfound respect for ourselves

15:31

, we value ourselves more . And

15:34

that's what and , in my honest

15:36

opinion , that's what combat sports does

15:38

for people is it makes you realize you

15:41

are a value , you do have

15:43

something to contribute , you are worthy

15:45

, you are . You know you do

15:47

have capabilities . That

15:50

you know , because a lot of people are people . Sometimes , why I'm not the most athletically

15:52

talented Doesn't matter . Are

15:55

you willing to put in the work ? Yes , okay , then

15:59

you deserve it , like anyone else deserves it . Just put in the

16:01

work , show up , do

16:04

what needs to be done , even on the days that you

16:06

don't want to be here . You showed up . You could

16:08

have been anywhere else , but you're here . You could

16:10

have been having ice cream and pizza and burgers , but

16:12

you're here . You could have . You know you could have

16:14

been at home . Which ? Watching a binge

16:16

, watching a Netflix show , or who ? Who of Amazon

16:19

? You're here . You know what

16:21

I'm saying . You're putting in the time you're putting in

16:26

the dedication you're sacrificing

16:28

with the better because you want to

16:30

see something different and

16:33

, as you were talking about earlier , but all the people

16:36

who are doing the instant gratification what it is is they

16:38

want results but they don't want to work for it . You

16:42

know it's it's sad , but true . You got

16:44

a lot of people and you , but then

16:46

here's the . The messed up part

16:48

about that is that they can't really genuinely

16:50

feel good about themselves because they really

16:52

didn't put in the work . If you

16:54

notice people who work out not even just

16:56

not boxing or combat , but

16:58

just people who work out and take care of themselves

17:00

. If you notice

17:03

even especially nowadays on the IG

17:05

people who work out and

17:08

they do like , post a vacations that they

17:10

take and times they spend with

17:12

their families and they're really enjoying

17:14

themselves . If

17:16

you notice that they really enjoy themselves because

17:19

for every family

17:21

friendly friend , you

17:23

know social posts that they make when they go to a concert

17:26

or when they go out and they're partying

17:28

or they actually have fun . Well

17:30

, look at the work they're doing , you

17:33

know . Look at , look at the the , the amount of

17:35

work that they're putting in the gym , the

17:38

amount of work they're putting in their business . They

17:41

are . They're truly genuinely enjoying

17:43

themselves because of

17:46

the honest work that they they put in

17:48

every day . And , let's be honest

17:50

, honest work isn't always

17:52

, you know , easy , right

17:54

, so you know . So I

18:12

don't know what happened , but okay .

18:15

What's going on ?

18:16

Yeah , you know . So the more honest

18:19

work you put in , the more you appreciate

18:21

the

18:23

downtime you get , because it's like

18:25

man , I really get to enjoy myself , I really

18:27

get to enjoy the fruits of

18:29

my labor . And

18:32

the other thing about it is that about

18:35

any combat sport is that when

18:37

you leave , let's say you go in , you're having a

18:39

crappy day , and

18:41

then you go in and you go train , and

18:43

the way I train people , I would hope

18:45

to think that when they leave my

18:48

class , my session , their

18:50

mind is clear , matter of fact

18:52

. There ain't anything about nothing , but maybe just getting

18:54

some water . But

18:58

then you know all that stuff that was jumbled in their

19:00

head bills , their

19:02

girlfriend , their wife , their kids . You

19:05

know what am I going to do this ? How am I going

19:07

to run this business ? How am I ? You know this personal

19:09

stuff All of a sudden

19:11

? Well , that's , that was simple . All I had to do is

19:14

this let me go talk to such and such about

19:16

this and things become way

19:18

clearer . Man , listen , a

19:20

lot of clear , listen . I get that same

19:22

way when I'm done training in kickbox .

19:24

Yeah , me too . Me too , I can say the same thing when I work

19:26

out . You know what I'm saying .

19:29

It just gets the BS out of you . It's like , okay

19:31

, all I gotta do is this , and all I gotta do is this . Simple

19:33

, that's it so

19:36

all I gotta do today is

19:39

finish that statement .

19:40

Jayden , I'm gonna ask you a couple of questions .

19:41

That's it , that's it .

19:42

I'm good , go ahead . I'm

19:46

good for the audience here actually both are kind

19:48

of for audience . But when you , when a

19:50

person comes into you from scratch

19:52

, jay , and they are wanting to get

19:54

to a certain level , but they come in they don't really

19:57

have any workout experience having , they

19:59

don't go really ever go to the gym . How

20:02

long is it taking from that time

20:04

that they for that first initial

20:06

session to them actually

20:08

turning a page from a physical

20:10

standpoint is like a year of

20:13

a person kind of hitting the gym from from the couch

20:15

. Let's say you go on from the couch to

20:17

the gym . How long is it going to take you before

20:19

you can kind of get conditioned I guess is the word I'm looking for

20:21

before you can kind of get conditioned ? I

20:24

know it can vary from person to person .

20:26

Yeah , yeah , and

20:28

it also varies on what they're paying for , like , if they're

20:30

paying for , you know , a package

20:33

deal like let's say they want , because I

20:35

usually the minimum I usually tell

20:37

them about is four sessions or five

20:39

sessions . You

20:42

know , I think it's

20:44

in my honest and personal opinion

20:46

, it's it's really on them . You

20:49

know , like this , the one client I told you that I

20:51

had the young lady who she works

20:54

out on her own . And then

20:56

, okay , here's the funny part about this , and this

20:58

is what I truly believe them when

21:00

I first met the young lady who's training

21:03

her butt off right now , she

21:05

saw my rates and

21:08

she paid . This is

21:10

like the first client I've ever had . We're

21:12

out the gate . She paid for five sessions

21:14

straight and

21:17

what I mean . But , yeah , exactly

21:19

. So it's like it has nothing to do

21:21

with me , it

21:23

has to do with what they want

21:25

and what they're willing to do . In

21:28

my honest opinion , the

21:30

better you want it and the more dedicated

21:32

you are to getting it , the quicker you'll pick

21:34

it up , because I can sit up and say

21:36

, oh , six months to a year , right , that's

21:38

usually a good guesstimated time

21:41

for , yeah

21:43

, ballpark figure . But

21:46

hey , man , this has been less than three months that

21:48

I've had this young lady and she's picking

21:50

up . So

21:53

it , you know , she literally you know . When she

21:55

got done with the five sessions , she came to

21:57

me like I want 20 . I

21:59

was like I was like okay

22:02

, I said , well , let me see what we can do . And

22:05

she's like well , how much would that be ? I was like

22:07

, give me a minute hold on . And

22:10

you know I gave her the .

22:11

You know the amount , baby

22:14

, let's do business , so

22:17

it sounds like it starts with the motivation , then is

22:19

is kind of where it starts up here

22:22

and it always starts here .

22:24

See , if you want it , you'll get

22:26

it . It's not see a lot

22:28

of like like , yes , six months to

22:30

a year , that's a good estimate

22:32

, good guesstimated time to

22:34

you know , to you know to you know to

22:36

, to the gauge that you'll pick up the skills . But

22:39

here's the thing Are

22:41

you showing up on the days that you're supposed to be

22:43

there ? And , more importantly

22:46

, are you practicing

22:48

on your own when I'm not around

22:50

? Are

22:53

you following the , the regimen

22:55

I give you to

22:57

take home with you ? That's

23:00

the key . It's not when you're with me , it's

23:03

when I give you the homework and I say , okay

23:05

, take this home with you , okay , okay

23:08

. And I clearly

23:10

saw that she was doing it . Now

23:13

she was a little self-conscious about it because

23:15

she would come back to me , like every time I'm in the

23:17

gym . People look at me weird and I said what

23:19

do you want ? Well

23:22

, I want to get better . Okay , so stop worrying about what everybody

23:24

else is looking at .

23:25

Yeah , they're looking at you .

23:27

They might be looking at you because they're they're

23:29

respecting what you're doing . They

23:32

may be looking at you because they may want to make fun . Who

23:34

gives it ? Who gives a darn ?

23:36

right , I totally agree . Who

23:39

gives it ?

23:40

Who cares ? You know

23:42

you're doing it , not

23:44

them Period

23:47

. Point blank plain is simple .

23:50

Another question I had here for the audience

23:52

, because we've spent a lot of time J

23:55

and in this episode kind of talking about the mentals

23:57

, that kind of go with that and that's not a shot . And

23:59

no , no matter if you're taking the ozampic or whatever

24:01

people are taking that shot , that's not affecting

24:03

their mental . They still have that . They still have that mental

24:05

situation . So for for

24:08

the audience Do you have any tips

24:10

for helping to train that mental

24:12

, the helping to to have that discipline

24:14

? What worked for you ?

24:19

Well , for me , when I first got into mixed martial

24:22

arts and kickboxing , in

24:25

all honesty , I did it

24:27

because I was going to school at the time and

24:30

I was at Chicago State and I

24:33

needed an outlet . Right

24:35

, I needed an outlet to help me kind of clear

24:38

my head and so I can get my homework done , and

24:40

I just felt like it was . It was

24:42

a good outlet for me . So I remember

24:44

I took the trial classes like only , or

24:46

like only a half hour and I

24:49

would do it , and I remember this one time I was having

24:51

trouble getting this homework assignment

24:53

done . So I actually went to go train and

24:56

when I came back I finished the assignment

24:58

, no problem . So for

25:00

me it was just , I Was

25:03

always self , it was self motivation . And

25:05

then , you know , I don't want to just

25:07

give it all to , you know , the combat

25:09

sports , because I used to run track

25:12

in high school and I kept up with the

25:14

running , you know , and stuff like that through

25:16

my college .

25:17

Yeah , man , a lot of people struggle with that alone

25:19

, jay , like that Running is hard to keep up

25:21

with for a lot of people .

25:23

I got a dumb reason behind why I joined

25:25

the track team , but I'll save that for later

25:27

. But it's

25:29

the dumbest reason ever , man . Okay , you know

25:31

those letters that you get for

25:33

you ever check you're on in high school . Well

25:36

, I for some reason love the whole

25:38

Achilles foot with the wing

25:40

on it . I said , dude .

25:41

I gotta have that . That was the only .

25:45

You know the letter wing and I was like the

25:47

dumbest reason . I was like that was my reason

25:49

, but I kept up

25:51

with running and then , of course , I added lifting

25:53

weights to my , my

25:56

regimen . I got tired of being small

25:58

. I got tired of

26:00

being not as muscular , you know

26:02

, and I thought at the time , during , especially

26:04

during all through my college years , of more

26:06

muscular I am , the more intimidating I'll look

26:08

people . Leave me alone . I was very

26:10

wrong about that , by the way , but

26:13

but that was just my

26:15

thought process . It's like I gotta lift weights , I gotta get

26:17

bigger , gotta get stronger , gotta get , you know , whatever

26:19

. But I just I wanted

26:21

to Be physically fit and

26:23

I wanted to feel good about myself . So

26:26

I did something about it . You

26:28

know , I did something about it and I wanted

26:31

to be able to feel more capable

26:33

of , you

26:36

know , whatever situation I put myself in . Because

26:38

I mean , let's face it , whatever situation

26:41

that you're new to

26:43

, the first thing

26:45

I would think of it can't blame anybody else , can't

26:47

point my finger anybody else , but the first thing I think of

26:49

it am I physically fit enough to get

26:51

through this ? And

26:54

Nine times I tend , usually

26:56

most of the new stuff I try , you

26:59

know , like you know , let's say , for

27:01

instance , just for this example , like rock climbing

27:03

or something like that , you got to be in some good

27:06

shape to do that . You know

27:08

, your hands gotta have a good grip and stuff like

27:10

that , and your hands have to have a good grip and jujitsu

27:12

as well , you know , or something like that . So

27:14

it's like , okay , do

27:16

you live whites , do you ? You know ? Do you train

27:19

your body to be , you know , physically strong

27:21

in some areas , whatever like that , because what

27:23

may help you in one area may help you in another , you

27:26

know , whatever like that . So it's just , I

27:28

always felt it was good to at least have

27:31

you know the

27:33

, the physicality for to

27:35

bring to the table when , whatever it is that I

27:37

did , that was for me and my you

27:40

know , my you know psychology

27:42

of a you know approach

27:45

to anything as far as , okay , I'm physically

27:47

fit . I may not be physically

27:49

fit a hundred percent for this particular thing

27:51

, but I'm not frail , I'm

27:53

not too big , not coming from zero base

27:56

, exactly exactly . I'm

27:58

not like you know , just you

28:00

know , crazy out of shape or whatever like

28:02

that , to the point where it's just like I'm

28:05

not . There's no

28:07

way in the world I can do this or something

28:09

like that . And I Remember

28:11

I got my first taste of that as far

28:13

as being Physically fit for something

28:15

, was when I became a lifeguard on the beach Back

28:18

in I think it was 2003

28:20

and we had just went out to the buoys and

28:23

I was a little scared , because I remember my brother's

28:25

first experience when he had just went out there

28:27

. He didn't feel confident about it . But then

28:29

I remember my dad told

28:32

me he says well , your situation is a little different

28:34

. You've been lifting weights and running

28:36

and swimming for a minute and

28:38

your brother was completely like brand

28:40

new to it . He wasn't lifting weights , he wasn't running

28:42

track , he wasn't doing what you were doing . So

28:45

when I swam out to the buoy , what would

28:47

surprise me was how I wasn't

28:49

out of breath , I wasn't out of shape , I

28:51

wasn't . You know , I wasn't like

28:54

, I was completely exhausted

28:56

, you know , I depleted or anything like that . And

28:59

All at once , in that same

29:01

day , when I got out to the buoy , I

29:03

was like I made it . I did

29:05

it and on the next

29:08

thing , I know it became one of the best summers ever

29:10

of my life and you

29:12

know it was because I've . You know , I faced something

29:14

, I did something , and that's what this and

29:16

that's what sport does for you . It it

29:19

helps you face your

29:22

, your fears in some

29:24

way shape or form . It helps you face yourself

29:26

and what you truly capable of versus

29:28

what we think we're capable of and what we

29:30

think we're not capable of . You

29:33

know , and in combat sports even more

29:35

so , because this

29:38

ain't true . I don't know what is man . You

29:40

know , you , we always worry about where

29:42

we are in the pecking order of the

29:44

world Am .

29:45

I one of the strong .

29:46

Am I one of the strong or am I one

29:48

of the weak ? And nobody

29:50

wants to be looked upon ? I don't care who you are

29:53

, nobody wants to be looking on a week . You'll

29:55

be looked at as a sheep . You won't be the wolf

29:57

. You know . I said you want to be the lion

30:00

. You know you don't want to be the hyena . You

30:02

know I'm saying you want you know , I mean

30:05

you want to be known as I'm top outfit

30:07

, you know , or whatever like that . And

30:09

there's times where you know , and there's always

30:12

a top dog , there's always , you know , the top

30:14

of the food chain or whatever like that . There's always somebody

30:16

who's in the middle or whatever . So , you

30:18

know , you always worry about who who's

30:21

who in that , so that there's a little bit of worry

30:23

there . And the

30:25

thing about it is , you

30:27

know , gotta exit that out

30:29

your brain , just like you know what . For now , why don't we

30:31

just get the fundamentals ? Why don't we just , baby

30:34

steps , baby steps , just worry

30:37

about you ? You know , that's

30:40

that's what Combat sports

30:42

have done for me . It just made me confident . And

30:44

you know a lot of areas in my life

30:46

, you know , but don't get me wrong , I still have

30:48

shortcomings . I still have . I

30:51

still have , you know , flaws and

30:53

stuff like that that I need to always Constantly

30:56

work on , you know , and stuff I need to

30:58

hold myself accountable for , in

31:01

the sense where it's like , okay , I came up

31:03

short on that and I need to fix that and I need

31:05

to do this and I need to , you know . So

31:07

it's , it's just one of those things well

31:10

, you know , it's I .

31:12

I feel like it's a lifelong

31:15

process , man . I don't know if I'm ever as

31:17

. I used to think that when I was younger that

31:19

I get to a certain age and things to be complete . You

31:21

know I'm not beat the game of life . I'm kind of like riding

31:23

off into the sunset . And as I've aged

31:25

and gotten older I know that it's . It's a it's

31:28

life is way more fluent . It's a constant

31:30

adjustment , it's a constant

31:32

testing of self and I definitely

31:34

appreciate you taking some time out here

31:36

, Jay .

31:38

I'm not a problem . I appreciate you always have me , brother

31:40

.

31:41

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31:47

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31:50

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