3:34

Centralization and consolidation

3:36

of our food systems is unfolding

3:38

. If you're going to be dependent

3:40

and rely on Bill Gates other

3:43

foreign national basically corporations

3:45

and governments dictate

3:47

to what you will have access to as

3:49

far as nutrition and health , then

3:52

I think you're going to be . You're

3:54

not going to be happy in this life , and

3:56

this is not a judgment . I tell everybody

3:59

day one get over it

4:01

. This is about saving children's

4:03

lives .

4:10

Okay , welcome back to the Regenerative

4:12

Health podcast . I'm Dr Max Kulhane

4:14

. In this episode I'm speaking

4:17

with Texas Slim . Now

4:19

, slim is a food sovereignty activist

4:21

and founder of the Decentralized Beef

4:23

Supply Movement , the Beef Initiative

4:25

. I met Slim in Albury back

4:28

in February this year at a

4:30

walkie farm , and we align

4:32

very closely in our goals of encouraging

4:34

people to meet their farmer as

4:36

a means of improving food transparency

4:39

and access . Slim

4:41

has spoken extensively about the threats

4:43

of industrialization and corporatization

4:46

of food systems in depleting

4:49

soils and in terms

4:51

of people's access to nutrient-dense

4:53

beef . So in this podcast we talk about

4:55

the industrial agricultural system

4:57

and the processed food industry

4:59

, which are intimately tied to a medical

5:02

system that profits from managing

5:04

and medicating chronic diseases rather

5:06

than educating people to help reverse

5:09

their conditions . We also talk about

5:11

the mindset and lifestyle shift required

5:14

to move from as a

5:16

passive consumer of processed

5:18

food diet and eventual customer

5:20

of the pharmaceutical-based care

5:22

model to an active and informed

5:24

consumer that understands the

5:27

importance and the centrality of

5:29

high-quality ruminant meat to optimal

5:31

health . If you're enjoying the podcast

5:34

, then I'd really appreciate any

5:36

reviews on the podcast platforms and

5:38

any shares with friends . And

5:41

if you want to learn more about what I'm up to , head

5:43

to my new website , drmaxchulhaincom

5:45

. So thank you , and now on to

5:47

the episode . It's because I think

5:50

you're one of the very few people who

5:52

are actually seeing the whole picture

5:54

, from the individual level all

5:57

the way up to a very , very

5:59

broad societal level , and

6:01

I think about the commoditization

6:04

of the food supply here in Australia . Whenever

6:07

I fly domestically from Aubrey

6:09

around Sydney and Melbourne

6:12

or anywhere else we

6:14

, especially around this time of year

6:16

, you can just see fields

6:19

of yellow and they stand

6:21

out , because I imagine

6:23

that no previous time in nature would you

6:25

have 100 acres of

6:28

simply yellow flower , just

6:31

by itself or in

6:33

constellation like a quilt patchwork

6:35

with other fields . And this is canola

6:38

. This is a rapeseed

6:40

which was selectively

6:42

bred to be low in arousic

6:45

acid so that it wouldn't

6:47

kill people when they ingested it . But

6:50

and I talked to an agronomist

6:52

, david Buschel , about the

6:54

amount of agricultural input

6:56

that canola fields need to basically

6:59

exist and it really

7:01

reminds you of something that

7:03

nature didn't really doesn't want to exist

7:05

naturally , because the amount of chemical that needs spraying

7:08

on it to

7:10

simply allow it to survive is

7:12

enormous . So I

7:14

think it's really emblematic of where we

7:16

are collectively , and I know in the US

7:18

you guys have massive tracts of corn and soy

7:21

field , but these kind

7:23

of crops , which you've called false

7:26

commodities , really emblematic of

7:28

the disconnect of people and their food

7:30

. And when we're growing these crops and

7:32

then turning that into a processed food products

7:35

, because they inevitably become

7:38

the Twinkies , they become the Krispy

7:40

Kreme donuts , they become the

7:42

French fries , they become all

7:45

the kinds of junk food that are responsible

7:47

for what you've mentioned is metabolic

7:50

bankruptcy of your country , then

7:52

we can see pretty quickly

7:54

that this is a whole constellation

7:57

of factors that are playing against

8:00

people .

8:03

Yes , 100% , and thank you

8:05

for bringing that up and this is a good

8:07

this is a kind of a good segment

8:09

that I'll go through here because it gives really good

8:12

perspective . And you bring up

8:14

Rape Seed and where I embedded

8:16

myself in the harvest company I believe we've talked

8:18

about that and I went in and did a lot

8:20

of research on the chemical and the grain companies

8:22

in the United States and I

8:25

was up in the northern part of the States

8:27

, up in the Dakotas , and you

8:29

had wheat farmers for their crops

8:32

for being grown . Rape Seed

8:34

was , of course , was outlawed

8:36

by the FDA in 1956

8:39

for informed human consumption through

8:41

the genetically modification

8:44

in the bioengine , the Rape

8:46

Seed itself . It's where it wouldn't

8:48

kill you and this is

8:50

what people need to understand that Rape Seed

8:52

is a weed . It's a toxic weed

8:54

that is now one of the biggest

8:57

fake commodities that we consume across

8:59

this planet . And by

9:01

that simple fact is

9:03

that if you can

9:06

basically insert that fake commodity

9:08

in every highly processed

9:10

food product , how much money

9:12

are they making off one seed

9:14

, one fake commodity , whenever

9:17

they can basically inject it in almost

9:19

every food product that we now consume

9:21

? You know why is it that McDonald's

9:24

started off with tallow suet

9:26

, animal fat to fry their french flies

9:29

and then they transferred

9:31

into basically a fake

9:33

commodity , vegetable oil , which is

9:35

canola oil . Well , that was because

9:37

of the influence , the regulatory

9:39

capture within the USDA , the agricultural

9:42

systems of the United States

9:44

. And you look at the United States and how

9:46

they've basically , you know , there's

9:48

now 26 countries , I believe , that

9:50

will not allow American food

9:52

into its borders because of the genetically

9:55

modified and because of the bioengineer

9:58

. And then you look

10:00

at the corn and the soy that you bring up

10:02

and we use a lot of that corn and

10:04

soy to feed a lot of our animal

10:06

protein , our cattle , our hogs

10:09

, our poultry . Well , those

10:11

seeds in which we are growing are

10:13

just as bad as those grape seeds

10:15

. They're genetically modified , they've

10:17

destroyed our soil . The amount of agricultural

10:20

inputs as far as herbicides

10:22

, pesticides you know everything

10:25

that is involved to orchestrate

10:27

the harvest of a genetically

10:29

modified seed is devastating . And

10:32

then that seed is now fed to

10:34

our animals . Well

10:36

, that is something that is not

10:38

bad within itself and

10:41

the reason that people go into grass

10:43

, bed grass , finished beef , is because of that

10:45

simple fact of how they've

10:47

basically hijacked an

10:49

input that you know cows

10:52

have been eating since the beginning of

10:54

time . And if you look at the United

10:56

States and our cattle basically

10:58

consuming that genetically modified

11:00

seed and

11:03

everything that inputs

11:05

that are required to raise that

11:07

cow , then that's what the humans

11:09

are consuming as well . And

11:11

that's one of the reasons the beef initiative

11:14

was formed is to get back into the regenerative

11:16

input protocols , the

11:18

input protocols that are required

11:21

from a regenerative process to

11:23

basically bring our soil back , bring

11:25

our health back , by producing

11:27

really strong and clean

11:30

animal proteins

11:33

. And this is the shift that

11:35

we have to perform . But we also have

11:37

to perform it into the consumer's mindset

11:39

first , and everybody wants change

11:42

, change , change . It goes back to

11:44

the individual . Whenever I say

11:46

a global industrial food shift , we

11:48

have now governments that

11:50

are fighting across the global

11:53

industrial food systems to

11:55

basically take in

11:57

any type of resource they can

12:00

to feed their populations . There's

12:02

a food war going on on

12:04

the global scale and whenever I was

12:06

in Australia , you know Australia

12:08

is a bellwether . You guys are seeing

12:11

this . You have very little market

12:13

access to your number

12:15

one animal protein in Australia

12:17

is lamb , and look what they're doing

12:19

to lamb right now . So

12:21

that's part of this global industrial food shift

12:24

and if everybody out there

12:26

is still going to rely on

12:28

the system that is now going

12:30

through a shift

12:33

in a way that we saw in the 70s in the United

12:35

States . They are going to have

12:37

basically animal proteins

12:39

and pure , clean

12:41

, nutritional food . They're

12:44

not going to have market access to that

12:46

food until they take intentional

12:49

actions to recognize

12:51

that this is just not in Australia , this

12:54

is just not in Texas , this is

12:56

just not in the United States , nor

12:58

Canada this is the whole Western

13:00

hemisphere is going through this industrial

13:02

food shift . But once again it's

13:04

up to the individual to educate themselves

13:07

and to start with their health . This

13:09

is a health initiative that the you know that

13:11

I founded as far as the beef initiative

13:14

. It's a great American health initiative

13:16

being led by the great American rancher , and

13:19

we're trying to get this spread across

13:21

the globe because this is a global problem

13:23

and if we don't really

13:27

wake up as consumers and

13:30

as parents and as people that

13:32

lead in our communities , we're

13:34

our food system will change forever and

13:36

it'll be too late .

13:41

Yeah , and look , the

13:43

thing that really sums up

13:45

for me this super , the super

13:47

profits I guess economic super

13:49

profits that get made from an industrial

13:51

food system is comparing a

13:54

equivalent amount of

13:56

canola oil to

13:58

the same amount of ghee

14:01

or grass fed butter or

14:03

grass fed tallow . And if

14:05

you look at the amount of food

14:07

in those two equivalent amounts maybe half

14:10

a litre and the cost difference

14:12

between those two , that explains

14:15

so much about why the industrial

14:17

food system is so profitable

14:19

. And , like you said , in

14:21

the US , it's in Australia but maybe

14:23

less so . These crops

14:26

are being fed to animals and that

14:29

is making these animals

14:31

, especially the monogastric animals

14:33

like pigs and chickens . They have a higher

14:36

level of linoleic acid and

14:38

polyunsaturated fatty acids in their

14:40

tissue because of their consuming this

14:42

diet that is , that's rich in grains

14:44

. You said a bit

14:47

earlier . You mentioned and you

14:49

described the this industrial food

14:51

complex as

14:53

medical , pharmaceutical

14:56

, agricultural complex . Can

14:58

you break that concept down for the for

15:00

the listener , because I think it would really help for

15:02

them to understand what ? What

15:05

are the players involved in delivering

15:07

or industrializing the

15:10

food and presenting this highly processed food

15:12

to people ? That it that is contributing to

15:14

their disease ?

15:16

Sure , and I like to use diabetes

15:19

as a . You know

15:21

diabetes to be called sugar

15:23

diabetes

15:25

, and of course , they change that now

15:27

and throughout

15:30

the last I would say , of course , 50

15:32

years , because it's all in this fit

15:34

since 1971

15:38

, whenever we're cultural complex . What

15:41

we want to do is now

15:43

for the population

15:45

in the United States is either pre

15:48

that's

15:50

a call , you know , consensus

15:54

, this is happening from

15:56

Americans in the United States are either

16:00

pre that this

16:02

is a new phenomenon Okay , the

16:04

medical community has no

16:06

problem diagnosing diabetes

16:09

. They are basically knee

16:11

jerking into something that

16:13

they don't have an approach

16:16

. The medical community in the United

16:18

States of America has no approach

16:20

or no protocol to basically

16:23

do free treatment

16:25

or to basically all

16:28

they have is reactionary care

16:30

. Okay , what is the reactionary

16:32

care of the medical complex ? Well

16:34

, it's insulin . Okay , all right

16:36

, who's making the insulin ? Well , that's

16:38

the pharmaceutical complex . Okay

16:41

, we just saw what happened during this , this

16:44

mass marketing

16:46

, global marketing plan of COVID . Okay

16:48

, who made money off of all these vaccinations

16:51

? Well , that was the pharmaceutical complex

16:53

. Okay , who makes money off

16:55

of people being diabetic in the United

16:57

States ? For population are now

16:59

diabetic or pre diabetic ? Well

17:02

, it's the pharmaceutical complex . Well

17:04

, how do they make money for diabetes

17:06

? Well , insulin , okay , if you

17:08

break down insulin care for

17:11

the individual , that's $900

17:13

to be on insulin

17:15

in the United States . Okay

17:17

, the pharmaceutical complex creates

17:19

insulin Every one of them

17:21

there . Do you think the United States

17:24

citizens are the ones that are not

17:26

insulin ? No , well

17:28

, who's pulling for that ? Well , that's a subsidized

17:31

pharmaceutical product that basically

17:33

the government subsidizes

17:35

, and so we can inject

17:37

half of American population with insulin

17:39

because they're either pre diabetic or diabetic

17:42

. Okay , well , how did they get there ? Well

17:44

, they got through through our agricultural decisions

17:47

. That happened after the 1970s

17:49

or during the 1970s

17:51

, when we went from a highly , highly

17:54

saturated , high protein

17:56

diet that basically really

17:59

gave her to our population

18:02

into the food pyramid

18:04

. Everybody's seen the food pyramid and

18:06

that is saturated with high processed

18:08

carbohydrates and grains

18:10

. Okay , good , well

18:13

, that was the agricultural complex . That's

18:15

whenever we started monocropping all

18:17

of our soil in the United States to

18:20

either basically feed these fake commodities

18:22

into our animal proteins

18:24

as far as cows and

18:26

hogs and poultry , or

18:29

the agricultural complex had basically

18:31

changed our food system and created

18:34

popious amounts of

18:36

new highly processed grain

18:39

food systems . Okay

18:41

, what else did they do ? Well , high

18:43

fructose corn syrup . It is

18:46

never ending the amount of

18:48

highly processed agricultural

18:51

supplements that we have

18:53

now introduced . So you have the medical

18:55

, agricultural , pharmaceutical

18:57

agricultural complex working

19:00

in unison and it's a circle

19:02

of basically ill health

19:04

that does not lead to

19:06

regeneration of health but

19:08

that leads to dependency upon the

19:11

medical , pharmaceutical agricultural

19:13

complex that keeps you in

19:15

that will and it's the will of death

19:18

. Because if you're dependent upon

19:20

the medical community to say

19:22

, hey , I'm diabetic , how can I quit

19:24

being diabetic ? If you look at

19:26

all the documentation

19:29

and all of the protocols for diabetes

19:31

in America , they're still not

19:34

on the same page of eliminating

19:37

highly processed foods out of your diet

19:39

and going toward more animal

19:42

protein , animal fat

19:44

, basically consumption model

19:46

. And so why are they doing that

19:48

? Well , they're dependent upon the pharmaceutical

19:50

industry . Well , who's the pharmaceutical

19:52

industry dependent on ? Well , the inputs

19:54

. Who's the input ? That's agricultural complex

19:57

. And so if you do

19:59

not understand as individual , you

20:01

know what are the risks . Why are you going

20:04

through insulin spikes ? Why are you hungry

20:06

every four hours ? Why are you always snacking

20:08

? That's a new type of consumption

20:10

model that has happened over the lifetime

20:13

. I eat water two times a

20:15

day . I'm never hungry . My course

20:17

consumption

20:20

model is 80%

20:22

of animal proteins and animal fats

20:24

and , once again , it's perspective that

20:27

we get here . How did

20:29

it transpire ? Well , it transpired by

20:31

fake commodities , pharmaceutical

20:33

systems that are basically , you

20:35

know , engineering a protocol

20:39

of injection throughout the globe

20:41

, and then agricultural complex

20:43

is not dependent on these chemicals

20:45

and profit margins , and

20:47

so really it doesn't . It's new

20:50

solutions , it leads into more of a

20:52

demyst .

20:55

Yeah and look , diabetes Australia

20:57

is just beginning to recognize low carbohydrate

21:00

diets to

21:03

manage to treat and hopefully

21:05

reverse type 2 diabetes . And

21:08

I think that that shift

21:10

is occurring not because

21:12

from any top down impetus

21:15

. It's simply because the bottom up

21:17

impetus from people who have reversed

21:20

their pre-diabetes and have

21:22

come off insulin and reversed

21:24

their disease using low carb and

21:27

animal protein has been so overwhelming

21:30

that it would be impossible

21:33

for them not to recognize that as

21:35

a legitimate approach , which the scientific

21:37

trial data as well

21:39

backs up very , very robustly

21:41

that low carb and echinogenic approaches

21:43

very valid for reversing

21:45

diabetes . And to me

21:47

that just speaks to the

21:50

cause of the problem , which is

21:52

your high carb processed food

21:55

diet and , in part

21:57

, the the . I love

21:59

it how you thanks for breaking that

22:01

down for us and I think a lot of people

22:03

aren't realizing or

22:06

they're not cognizant of all the

22:08

industrial players who

22:10

have a stake in their

22:12

disease and what you describe is

22:15

really a . It's a disease

22:17

dependency cycle and

22:19

, just as a drug dealer has

22:21

a financial stake in people

22:24

being addicted to drug , to

22:26

the crack cocaine that they're selling

22:28

, it's really a

22:31

corporatized , dressed

22:33

up version of simply the same concept

22:36

and you did an excellent

22:38

breakdown of these , these entities

22:41

that are kind of profit , profit

22:43

gathering entities that make

22:45

money on the system , that

22:47

is highly industrialized and

22:50

that is connected between the

22:53

pharmaceutical industry , the

22:55

disease and sickness industry , the

22:57

agricultural industry and

22:59

I guess the processed food industry as well they

23:02

all seem to be converging will

23:04

have aligned interests , that converge

23:07

on keeping people sick

23:09

and simply managing

23:11

their chronic diseases rather than reversing them

23:13

. And that's that's something that I

23:15

see quite commonly in diseases

23:18

. That in my clinical practice

23:20

is . It's called a chronic disease management

23:23

plan . Quite literally , it's

23:25

not . It's not a chronic disease

23:27

reversal plan , it is

23:29

a chronic disease management

23:32

plan , and that management plan

23:34

involves the pharmacist , it involves

23:36

a whole bunch of allied health professionals

23:38

. It involves a whole

23:40

team of people that are required

23:43

to help

23:45

care for someone who has , you

23:48

know , end stage diabetes . I mean , if

23:50

we think about someone who has end stage metabolic disease

23:53

with insulin dependent type two diabetes

23:55

, they have multiple

23:57

organ systems that are affected . They've got

24:00

renal impairment . They might be

24:02

on dialysis because they've got such severe

24:04

diabetic nephropathy . They've

24:07

got vision issues . They've got , because they've got

24:09

, diabetic retinopathy . They need

24:12

to see podiatrists and

24:14

vascular

24:16

surgeons because the blood flow

24:19

to their extremities is

24:21

so compromised that they get recurrent ulcers

24:23

and they have constant

24:25

neuropathic pain . So

24:28

the constellation of resources

24:30

that is required to care for

24:32

someone who has , at the end

24:34

stage of that consumption model that you've described

24:37

, slim , is enormous . So

24:39

I don't think it's not like we're

24:41

not describing some kind of kind of conspiracy

24:44

of any means . This is simple

24:46

looking at the component parts

24:48

that are involved in caring

24:51

for someone who has lived a lifestyle

24:53

that you've described since the 1970s

24:56

.

24:59

It's really good perspective . I mean you can

25:01

go down that laundry list of

25:03

problems and issues

25:05

that is paused Whenever

25:08

we look at the food . Going back to the beginning

25:10

of this conversation , you know food

25:13

was not highly profitable

25:15

before the 70s . It

25:18

was based on survival . Food

25:20

was not overly convenient

25:23

before the 70s . It

25:25

was based on survival . Food

25:27

, basically , was not engineered

25:30

just to taste good

25:32

with fake chemicals

25:34

and fake commodities . And

25:37

so I always ask people

25:39

, you know , if you're really concerned

25:41

about your health , if you really believe

25:43

that a life well

25:45

lived is through

25:47

health . Health is wealth , wealth

25:50

is wealth is health . Once again

25:52

, that perspective has changed

25:54

. If you're serious about understanding

25:57

and wanting to engineer

25:59

your health , then why

26:01

do you desire what you desire ? It's

26:04

a simple question and you know

26:06

with me what I do . I tell everybody

26:08

this is not a judgment , because you know

26:10

we talk about obesity , we talk

26:12

about people that are sick and

26:14

everybody you know in the United States

26:16

we've had a form of social engineering

26:18

. You know if you discuss

26:21

somebody's body image or

26:23

if they're unhealthy , then that's an

26:25

attack and once again , that

26:27

social engineering that's been engineered

26:30

into our mindsets . They're a centralized

26:32

media control and content

26:35

and communication flow . So

26:37

if you really are going to

26:40

get to the bottom of everything , why

26:42

do you desire what you desire within food

26:44

? It's pretty easy to break down and

26:46

most people say , well , because it tastes good

26:48

. Well , that taste is now being engineered

26:50

through science . It's not being

26:53

engineered through the soil , it's

26:55

not being engineered through a natural

26:57

taste . It's being engineered through

26:59

an artificial taste . And

27:02

so if you break down what I just said

27:04

, okay , if you want to live a natural

27:06

life or do you want to live

27:08

, basically , a chemical engineered

27:10

life , and this is what they're

27:12

doing and this is what a lot of

27:14

people are not aware of .

27:16

Yeah , and we talked to our

27:18

friend Jake Wolke , a regenerative

27:21

farmer , and he looked into

27:23

the brief of the

27:25

commodity chicken producers here in

27:27

Australia and their corporate strategy

27:29

was to produce meat that was soft

27:32

and bland or moist and bland and

27:35

reflecting this idea that the

27:37

essence of nutrient dense

27:39

food and the characteristic flavor

27:41

and taste was being dispensed with

27:44

in favor of a very

27:46

bland product that then could

27:48

be fitted into any

27:51

kind of consumption model to please

27:53

everyone and really

27:56

facilitate and enable really

27:58

large volume , huge

28:01

amount of industrial output

28:03

. The other

28:05

point that I want to make is it

28:08

seems to be that the

28:10

expansion of this model of

28:13

creating customers from

28:15

a pharmaceutical point of view

28:17

, as a result of processed

28:19

food addiction and there is the light

28:22

food component which I'm delving into

28:24

more as well but

28:26

you think about , especially in the US

28:28

, the expansion of drugs like

28:31

semaglotide

28:33

, isempic too , younger

28:36

and younger people , and you mentioned that

28:38

there's been a push

28:40

to make comments

28:42

about body image taboo , because

28:44

it is part in my mind of

28:46

normalizing obesity and

28:48

normalizing the fact that

28:51

this is an inevitable part of living and that

28:53

everyone is simply going to get obese

28:55

and that's normal . But

29:00

therefore the next normal step is to

29:02

take an injectable GLP1 agonist

29:04

to the market to help you lose

29:06

weight , and

29:09

the push is younger and younger , younger patients

29:11

. So it seems

29:13

like there's an

29:15

endless quest towards expanding

29:17

the customer base , and that

29:20

includes pediatric

29:22

indications or expansion

29:25

of pediatric use for some

29:27

of these weight loss medications , which

29:29

is bizarre and quite

29:33

repulsive in my mind , because

29:35

the solution to these problems isn't an

29:37

injectable medication . It's

29:39

getting back to fully grass-fed

29:42

animal protein and animal

29:44

fat , getting away from their

29:46

blue-lit screens and going outside . I

29:48

mean , this is the

29:50

state that we're kind of getting to collectively

29:52

.

29:54

We really are and you know it is

29:56

. It's a cover-up and what you know

29:58

. Look at the look at

30:00

the industrialization of our food

30:02

, which required highly processing

30:05

, to where you could basically create

30:07

additives to supplement

30:09

. Okay , your food should never be supplemented

30:11

with anything . It should be dense

30:14

, just like you said , your animal protein should

30:16

be dense , and it

30:18

always was in the United States

30:20

. You go in and poultry now , and

30:23

a chicken breast is , you know , the size

30:25

of a football . Well , that's not

30:27

a real chicken . Once again

30:29

, perspective , right . And what

30:31

do they get ? Well , how do you get a chicken

30:34

? Well , it's a weight , okay . Well

30:36

, how many chemicals are in that chicken ? How

30:38

many steroids are in that chicken

30:40

? How many antibiotics are in that chicken

30:42

? How many fake ? How many chemicals are

30:45

in that chicken ? Because you know , say

30:47

it's required because the type of processing

30:50

and industrialization of the bird , you

30:52

know it's never ending . So

30:54

, if you cannot accept the fact

30:56

that these multinational corporations and

30:58

there's very few multinational corporations

31:01

that control basically all of

31:03

the food across this planet you

31:05

there , and you know I've told you before

31:08

we started this podcast that I

31:10

was going to share a link with you that's a downloadable

31:12

PDF . It's basically an

31:14

e-book of everything that

31:16

we have as far as a global agri-food

31:20

, and it is basically

31:22

describing how they are going

31:24

towards a one word food

31:27

group . What does that mean

31:29

? Less choices , less

31:31

nutrition , fire profits

31:33

for those multinational corporations

31:36

. You know , you and I could sit here for

31:38

a month and not quit

31:40

talking about all of the issues

31:42

. Okay , when is it

31:45

the ? Does the individual take

31:47

a step back and say , yeah , there's

31:49

something wrong ? What

31:51

is going on right now is that it's socially

31:54

engineered into the mindset process

31:56

planet that you're the

31:58

reason . It's your

32:00

genetics . That's a big

32:02

lie . Your genetics are waiting

32:05

to be tapped into . Our genetics

32:07

are something that is

32:09

a gift and and

32:12

we've , as the

32:14

population , as consumers

32:16

, which have now basically been

32:19

nothing more

32:21

than turned into the product itself

32:24

for the corporate waste of these

32:26

multinational corporations . But

32:28

if you go back and you really look

32:30

at a nation , if you look at

32:32

a world before we went into

32:34

a highly processed , highly

32:37

commoditized , highly profit-driven

32:39

food system , you're gonna see

32:42

that the gig is up for them and

32:44

that's why this is global industrial food shift

32:46

is happening and this is why they're going

32:48

for a one group and they're

32:50

gonna use climate change . They're gonna use

32:52

basically , we got to feed the poor

32:55

. We got to feed the children in Africa

32:57

. We got to do all this . A billion population

33:00

coming . All everything that they use

33:02

is a lie . All you

33:04

have to do is not to feed the community

33:07

in which you reside . If you

33:09

can do that as an individual

33:11

, your world opens

33:13

up to knowing that you are the solution

33:16

and that it's time to quit

33:18

circle jerking on all the issues

33:20

. But it takes the individual to basically

33:23

be able to accept that fact and

33:25

that's why you and I are here , because

33:28

this is not going to change . They

33:30

will keep on creating all

33:32

of these new injectable medicines

33:35

and what they are is nothing more

33:37

than band-aid

33:39

on a huge issue . And

33:41

it's up to the individual to understand what

33:43

food is , what their genetics are

33:45

, how you can work it within the universe

33:48

, within , instead of looking

33:50

out at the universal , external

33:53

out there , thinking that's where the the

33:55

, the solution resides . The

33:58

solution resides in

34:00

the individual food intelligence that

34:02

is based on , in which the community in

34:04

which they live . It is so simple

34:06

, it's complicated , but once

34:09

again , that is poses to the individual

34:11

. You know that exposes to

34:13

the individual that , hey

34:15

, I have to quit relying on so

34:17

much convenience . We're saying

34:19

that , basically , localized food

34:22

is too expensive . Show me your

34:24

pantry and I'll tell you what's expensive

34:26

. Show me your checkbook and

34:28

I tell you what's expensive . What

34:30

is value ? Well , you know

34:33

, protecting who you are and

34:35

your health is your wealth , and

34:37

I think that's something that we have to fight really

34:39

hard about because of the social engineering

34:42

. Whenever you can tell a child

34:44

that is suffering from fatty liver disease

34:46

age of 12 that it's

34:48

their fault , it's their

34:50

genetics , that's where it ends

34:53

, that's where it stops , and us

34:55

as , basically , leaders , and

34:57

every parent out there . If you

35:00

find that acceptable in the United States

35:02

, that that is now one of the fastest growing

35:04

metabolic diseases for children

35:06

in the United States , then

35:09

you , you are the issue , you

35:11

are the problem , because the more

35:13

that we bring complacency

35:15

to the children's health across

35:18

this planet , based on

35:20

adult consumer demand

35:22

, based on an adult consumption model

35:24

, we are the solution , not

35:27

the multinational corporations that

35:29

got us here yeah

35:34

and look , this idea of framing

35:36

it as a genetic problem is infuriating

35:39

and incorrect on so many levels .

35:42

And when it's funny when you

35:44

say to someone , or your fat , your

35:46

overweight , what they say you're

35:48

overweight because of your genes well it's

35:50

pretty funny because if you put anyone

35:53

, you put these people , these patients

35:55

, on one meal

35:57

a day of nutrient-dense

35:59

animal protein , with fasting

36:02

, with some cold exposure . You get them in

36:04

the sun . You know it's a variable

36:06

that they will lose weight , they'll thrive again and they

36:08

feel fantastic . So the

36:10

idea is just so backwards and

36:13

it really is in

36:15

service of a profit , of profit and corporate

36:18

strategy , and it's not in service

36:20

of the truth by by any means the

36:23

the . The other point that you made

36:25

that I think I really want to

36:27

give some more thought

36:30

to is this idea of

36:32

collective obligation

36:34

, individual sacrifice

36:36

for collective , of collective duty

36:39

, and whenever there

36:41

seems to be something

36:43

that is convenient and profitable

36:45

for a multinational corporation

36:48

, then there's a

36:50

very , very broad call to our

36:52

call to action across . Some

36:55

various various actions

36:57

are not going to be too , too precise

37:00

, but there's always some massive

37:02

action that we need to take

37:04

and it's an individual sacrifice that needs

37:06

to be made , whether that's cutting out animal

37:09

food x , y or z . So

37:11

what the point you made , slim , is that there's

37:13

there's going to be a succession of narratives that

37:16

are going to continue to advocate

37:18

for people to eat less meat , eat

37:20

less animal fat , do all these these

37:23

, these various , some things , but again

37:25

, it's not going to be in service of that person's

37:27

health . And until people realize

37:29

that there's a disconnect in economic

37:32

incentive between

37:34

the people that are advocating , the entities

37:36

that are advocating for these lifestyle

37:39

changes and these plant-based

37:42

diets and all the rest , then until

37:44

that people realize that I think they are going to

37:46

be continued to be

37:49

a victim of these types of narratives

37:51

100%

37:56

, and that's why you know I

37:58

come from , I'm a research analyst , I came

38:00

from big tech , I came from agriculture and ranching

38:03

, of course , as far as my heritage , you

38:05

know , but my professional life was

38:07

because of my small town was , you

38:10

know , being destroyed by the agricultural

38:12

, you know explosion that happened

38:15

.

38:15

Okay , let's look into how we

38:17

look at food and how we basically

38:20

even know what food is . It's a marketing plan

38:22

, and the global marketing plan right

38:24

now is just like what you brought is

38:26

like hey , there's a war and beef , now the

38:28

cows are going to hazard . Okay

38:31

, first off , if anybody believes that

38:33

the car is a car

38:36

, the , you are

38:38

being sued . It's the biggest lie

38:40

. That's being protected right

38:42

now and , as you said as well

38:45

, the individual has to make a

38:47

sacrifice of eliminating , well

38:49

, protein out of their diet . See

38:51

, that's a prohibition . That's what

38:53

governments do , that's what the powers

38:55

that be . They control

38:58

and they create prohibition

39:00

to those in which they serve

39:03

. And , once again , if the

39:05

individual cannot understand that

39:07

, the lie that is being perpetuated in

39:09

the Western Hemisphere as far as climate

39:11

change and we have to go save the planet

39:14

because the cows are farting , that

39:16

is laughable . Once

39:19

again , though , you have Henry

39:21

Kissinger in the United States , saying back

39:23

in the 70s if you control the

39:25

seed , if you control the food , you

39:27

control the people . Well , you look at

39:29

the monetary reset that is going

39:31

on right now . You look at the industrial

39:34

food shift that is going on right now

39:37

. How do you control the people ? Well , you control

39:39

them through food and you control them through money

39:41

. And if anybody thinks that

39:43

the inflation that's going

39:45

on in the world right now has nothing

39:48

to do with actually the industrial

39:50

food shift that's just coming , once

39:52

again your paying attention and

39:54

your perspective is way off and

39:56

you need to quit on

39:59

centralized information

40:01

. For your consumption model , be it

40:03

your video , your video or

40:05

your food , you have to engineer

40:07

a new protocol of understanding what

40:10

food is . That's the form of food

40:12

intelligence that you , the individuals

40:15

, need to create . Look at you and

40:17

I . The reason you andI is

40:19

because of food intelligence

40:22

. You're a doctor , I'm a cattleman

40:24

and you've got a step for a generative , basically

40:27

decentralized food system that we've created

40:29

within the beef initiative . Every

40:31

individual out there can take the same actions

40:33

that you and I do every day . You're

40:36

healthy , max

40:38

. I'm healthy . I mean , why

40:41

are we healthy ? Density of animal

40:43

protein Once

40:45

again , it's so simple . It's complicated

40:47

. You don't have to overthink this . If you

40:50

want to create a fresh start , just

40:52

basically turn that

40:54

food pyramid upside down , take

40:57

a look in the mirror and find a protocol

40:59

that you can live with . And where's your

41:01

entry point ? Sometimes it's a 48

41:04

hour bone prophes , sometimes

41:06

it's a consultation with somebody like you , dr

41:08

Max . It's not as hard

41:10

as people are making this , but

41:12

we have to make it to where they do

41:14

have an on-ramp of understanding

41:17

, of perspective in an entry point

41:19

. If we keep on and just

41:21

keep on saying that how bad they are

41:23

doing it , then we're not in

41:25

the solution . Jacob Wolke

41:27

, first generation regenerative

41:30

farmer in Australia , just

41:33

killing it . And he's doing it . Why

41:35

? Because he wants to keep his family healthy

41:37

. He's not a rancher , he's

41:40

not a farmer , but he is now because

41:42

he chose to feed his family in the

41:44

way that he wants to , not

41:46

a multinational corporation , and

41:49

his family is healthy . What else

41:51

do we need to show people ? This is

41:53

not a genetic problem . This is

41:55

a consumption problem . Consumption

41:57

of what ? Basically devalued

41:59

food , that is , a

42:02

debased currency that is basically

42:04

buying debased food . What

42:06

has happened ? What happens to a debased

42:09

currency ? Well , they have to increase

42:11

profit margins . How do they do that ? Increase

42:13

yields ? How do they increase yields

42:16

? More bioengineering , more

42:18

chemicals , more pesticides , more marketing

42:20

plans and more chemicals to

42:22

make it taste good . That was

42:24

that .

42:27

Yeah , it can be

42:29

somewhat a triggering topic

42:32

that we're talking about for people who've never really thought

42:34

about this , and I'd invite

42:36

people who are listening to really

42:39

maybe take a moment and

42:41

consider what Slim

42:45

is saying and what we're discussing in this conversation

42:47

and , rather than feel

42:50

offended or instinctively

42:52

repulsed , maybe allow

42:54

the ideas to sit and

42:57

consider how perhaps

43:00

the process of outsourcing

43:02

decisions regarding food

43:05

and health are perhaps leading

43:07

you in a direction that is not

43:09

the direction that's in your best interest

43:11

. And I think it's a great segue

43:13

, Slim , to talk

43:15

about what people can do , because

43:18

I know you're famous for

43:20

your comment of shaking

43:22

a rancher's hand , and in

43:25

my clinic I like to tell people go

43:27

and meet your farmer , because it

43:30

for me , I think could be the most

43:32

critical single

43:35

act that people can do

43:37

for their health for their own health

43:39

, for the environmental , for

43:41

environmental health , for their community's

43:43

health , for economic empowerment

43:45

of their local area is

43:47

to simply meet a farmer and

43:50

source their food directly

43:52

from that farmer . So

43:54

pitch us , tell us why we

43:56

should be meeting a farmer , given everything

43:59

that we've just talked about .

44:02

There and I came up

44:04

with a phrase go shake your rancher's hand

44:06

. And why did I say that ? Well

44:08

, because that's personal relationship

44:10

management with somebody that wants to feed you . That's

44:13

what they do . Let's use Jacob as an example

44:15

. He lives and dies to feed

44:18

his community and everybody else that

44:20

wants to create a market access to

44:22

his product and his service . Okay

44:24

, everybody's going

44:26

to . And the one thing that I get all the

44:28

time and this is one of the reasons I

44:31

form the deep initiative and the way we do it

44:34

, is that ? okay , not everybody in

44:36

Australia or in

44:39

the United States can go shake a

44:41

farmer's hand or a producer's

44:43

hand or a rancher's hand . We

44:45

understand that . But what you can

44:47

do is you can make an

44:50

intentional pivot . And

44:52

this is a crossroad and what

44:54

you can do is you can go and find

44:56

somebody , like with the beef initiative , beefinitiativecom

44:59

. You have a searchable index

45:02

now with over probably about 180

45:04

producers in it . Now . Every one of

45:06

those producers came in voluntarily . I

45:09

didn't ask them . They don't have to pay money

45:11

to be in there . We have a free index . We're

45:15

expanding the index to have a mapping

45:17

system , basically

45:20

a story kit that people can look and

45:22

really get to know in a more intimate

45:24

way the producers . There's

45:26

means to do this . We live in a digital

45:28

world . You know the beef initiative

45:30

was founded so we could create that peer-to-peer

45:33

access to who wants

45:36

to feed you and you the intentional

45:38

consumer that wants to establish that

45:41

relationship . I

45:43

cannot speak of the volumes

45:45

of empowerment that you

45:47

get whenever you create a

45:49

relationship with somebody like Jacob

45:51

Wolke . He has a first

45:54

rate protocol . If

45:56

you want to shop at his butchery , well

45:58

, you have to go do a farm tour . You have to

46:00

go shake his hand , and what

46:03

a great way to do that . Once you've shaken his

46:05

hand , once you've done the farm tour , then

46:07

you have access to his online 24-7

46:09

butchery where you can get your animal proteins

46:11

and continue the education and

46:14

continue the relationship . There

46:16

are so many people on this planet right

46:18

now . Because I've seen it . I've traveled around

46:20

the world . I've been to other countries . I

46:23

was all over Australia . You

46:25

know I was over in Australia for

46:27

a month . I've been in Australia

46:29

, I've been boots on the ground , I've

46:32

talked to individuals . This is

46:34

not a problem just in the USA

46:36

. This is just not a problem in Texas

46:38

. This is just not a problem in Melbourne

46:41

, sydney , all the way up the Gold

46:43

Coast . This is a national

46:45

, this is a global problem and

46:47

this is what people once again perspective

46:50

. If you can accept that this

46:52

is going to unfold , then

46:54

you're going to basically create a new

46:57

lifestyle , and this is the best

46:59

way to do it is relationship management

47:01

with those people in your communities

47:03

that want to feed you . And if you

47:06

cannot get market access

47:08

in flesh in person

47:10

to those people , I guarantee you

47:12

, if you reach out to somebody like Jacob

47:14

Wolfe , he's going to give you tools

47:16

. If you come to the beef initiative , you're going

47:19

to be able to find anybody that you need

47:21

, that wants to feed you , and this

47:23

is just not a marketing plan

47:26

. This is not Amazon . This

47:28

is just not basically an interface

47:30

, surface level system

47:34

that provides you a box

47:37

that gets delivered to your door . This

47:39

is a lifestyle shift and

47:41

it doesn't have to be daunting . I

47:44

have not had one person that

47:46

has come into the beef initiative A producer

47:49

, rancher , farmer or

47:51

a consumer that has ever

47:53

left . Once you're in it , you

47:55

understand what we're talking about . The

47:58

biggest decision you have to do is just

48:00

take that first step . How are you going

48:02

to create a relationship with those people

48:04

out there that are waiting for you ? You

48:07

know we're going through asset reallocation

48:10

. Look what happened in the Netherlands 3,000

48:12

farms are gone forever . Does anybody

48:15

know that ? The Netherlands creates some of the best produce

48:18

in the world and they help feed most

48:20

of Europe ? Okay , what's going

48:22

on in the United States ? That's that reallocation

48:25

. Bill Gates , china

48:27

over a half a million

48:29

acres collectively bought

48:31

up farmland . We don't

48:33

have access to that farmland anymore . Okay

48:36

, centralization and consolidation

48:38

of our food systems is unfolding

48:41

. You're going to

48:43

be dependent and rely on Bill

48:45

Gates , other four national basically

48:48

corporations and governments dictate

48:51

to what you will have access to as

48:53

far as nutrition and health , then

48:56

I think you're going to be you're

48:58

not going to be happy in this life . And

49:00

this is not a judgment . I tell

49:02

everybody day one get

49:04

over it . This is about saving

49:06

children's lives . And if you think

49:08

the health of the , I'll

49:11

speak to the United States . If you

49:13

think the health of this nation is acceptable

49:15

, you're wrong . This is a new

49:17

phenomenon and it's only happened in the last

49:19

50 years . Get your

49:21

perspective , understand where

49:23

you stand within this

49:25

global industrial food shift that is going

49:28

towards a one world food group

49:30

, and you have to engineer your

49:32

relationship , management with food

49:34

, with a producer , and

49:36

that takes intentional living , it takes

49:38

a pivot in your lifestyle .

49:41

Yeah , I couldn't agree more , Slim

49:44

. Just as the movement

49:46

becomes more global , more

49:48

centralized as the

49:50

months and the years pass

49:53

, so is the antidote

49:55

or the solution that you and I are suggesting

49:58

is getting even more decentralized

50:02

and even more individual . It's almost like two

50:05

polarities that

50:07

, as each of them are pulled further and

50:09

further apart , the solution

50:11

becomes more and more simple , one of

50:13

individual choice , individual intentionality

50:16

, individual and

50:18

economic decisions , because , as

50:20

you mentioned , it's simply about economically

50:23

empowering the person that is producing

50:25

pure food for you in a way

50:28

that is highly beneficial for

50:30

everyone , except those who

50:32

are the multinational entities

50:34

that would otherwise make

50:36

a whole bunch of profit . So

50:38

I think that's a fantastic

50:41

call to action for people

50:44

and wake up in many ways

50:46

, because the

50:48

fork in the road is really

50:51

to disassociate

50:53

oneself from any responsibility and

50:56

continue in an unintentional

50:58

lifestyle . That

51:00

pathway is well worn and that

51:02

pathway is laid for you , and that

51:05

will involve the consumption of

51:07

processed foods , including vegetable oils

51:09

, fake

51:12

proteins , glad grown meats

51:15

and other forms of industrially

51:18

grown meat with all kinds of chemical

51:20

contamination , and then the inevitable

51:22

visit to your

51:25

doctor with chronic disease

51:27

diagnosis and the attendant

51:29

list of medications

51:31

that manage those chronic diseases or

51:33

that the other fork in the road

51:35

is what we've been talking about , which is

51:37

intentional lifestyle choice sourcing

51:40

pure , fully grass-fed , grass-finished beef

51:43

from someone who is

51:45

interested in providing

51:47

you and your family with high-quality food

51:49

and then disavowing or obviating

51:52

the need for any form of chemical

51:54

treatment because you're simply healthy and well . So

51:57

I think that's to

52:00

not make it too much of a dichotomy , but I

52:02

think really that's what it's coming down to .

52:06

It really does and that's why I would continually

52:08

say it's so simple . It's complicated to meet

52:11

most people , you know we have

52:13

to have a mindset shift

52:15

. You know that's the hardest

52:17

thing to get people to do . You know we're

52:19

complacent . You know our cognitive

52:22

dissonance is extremely deep

52:24

these days . You know , whenever you

52:26

can get and I tell people , but it's all the time , you

52:29

know . You look at the marketing plan about , you know

52:31

, veganism and you know

52:34

this is being orchestrated

52:36

because the some people that did the global

52:39

marketing plan for COVID are unleashing

52:41

the global marketing plan for the climate

52:43

change and how they're classifying

52:46

food . Now , okay , you look at the

52:48

digitization of our consumption

52:50

model , from audio video and to

52:52

food and how they're letting you know I

52:54

was in Australia and look how you label your beef

52:56

in Australia . That is not

52:58

something that anybody else is seeing

53:00

. You're a frontrunner , okay , your government

53:03

is frontrunner in labeling beef

53:05

with five different labels . It's something

53:07

that's carbon neutral

53:09

and this is the CO2 test . It's

53:12

grass , you know . It's organic , you

53:14

know . And they just keep on regulating

53:17

. Well , what they're doing is they're turning

53:19

out protein into caviar . They'll

53:22

be able to afford it or

53:24

that you're just going to eliminate it

53:26

because of idealistic reasons

53:29

. They're based on a bunch of deceptions

53:31

and propaganda . When it comes

53:33

to climate change , if

53:36

you are going to continually to rely

53:38

on these people to to

53:40

design your health , then you will come

53:42

up short , and this is what

53:44

we have to do is to get people to

53:47

understand this . And

53:49

if we can do that , you know

53:51

, slowly but surely , but with

53:53

honor , with transparency

53:55

, authenticity , integrity , I'll

53:58

tell everybody my why

54:00

. My mission is to save children's

54:02

lives . If we don't do something , the

54:04

health of our nation is done . We

54:07

don't have to worry about war , we

54:09

don't have to

54:11

worry about anything else , because

54:13

if you do not have good market

54:15

access to the type of proteins

54:18

and the type of basically truth in

54:20

food that I have lived

54:22

in my lifetime , you

54:25

know there's no turning back here , and

54:27

so , once again , it's the sovereign

54:30

individual mindset that gets

54:32

you there , and if we can collectively

54:34

do this together and collaborate , then

54:37

we have the solutions yeah

54:39

, and look , I've seen the consequences of

54:41

the reduced

54:43

meat advice that young women

54:45

particularly seem to be susceptible

54:48

to .

54:48

And there's appeals to altruism , there's

54:51

appeals to this idea

54:53

that you know it's not that women should be

54:55

eating , you know salads and and all

54:57

these kind of subtle narratives

55:00

that pervade popular culture , and

55:02

if that gets expanded to you

55:04

know , the whole society shouldn't be eating

55:06

, should be eating very little red meat , and

55:08

people's natural inclination

55:10

towards altruism

55:13

and compassion gets really

55:15

tugged and their heartstrings get pulled . Then

55:18

that's a very insidious way of making

55:20

people sick , because it makes them feel guilty

55:22

for consuming what

55:24

their biology needs , which is nutrient

55:27

dense red meat . So I

55:30

think if we again , if we're aware

55:32

that these tactics are being employed , then people

55:34

can take steps to educate

55:37

themselves and make

55:40

steps towards meeting farmers , meeting people

55:43

that have their best interests at heart and

55:45

, as you said , this is about helping

55:48

the children , it's about helping patients and

55:50

it's about helping people live the

55:52

most optimal life and and in my

55:54

clinical experience , a diet that

55:56

is rich in high quality animal food

55:58

is a key part of that

56:00

. So I think it's

56:02

a great call and a great wake-up

56:05

call that you're providing them for

56:07

people .

56:09

Well , and I really appreciate this . And

56:11

whenever I first started , you know , I called this

56:13

the Texas Beef Initiative and

56:15

I had to tell people , you know , up

56:18

front , and I had some

56:20

of my very first podcasts I said , hey , this is

56:22

a health initiative and it's being

56:24

led by those people that want to give

56:26

you clean animal protein . This

56:29

is what people need to understand . This

56:31

is not a marketing plan . This is

56:33

an industry shift . As they are performing

56:35

industry shift upon us

56:37

, that form a prohibition of not

56:40

giving us market access . Now

56:42

you look at you , look , let's look at Australia

56:44

. Your number one animal protein that Australia

56:47

produces is lamb . Why are

56:49

they liquidating lamb

56:51

? Basically ? Why is the lamb

56:53

not , you know , dissolved

56:56

in Australia ? Why is all that

56:58

lamb ? Well , I've been into

57:00

the stores , I've been into the supermarkets

57:02

and you guys should have a far

57:04

better selection to animal protein

57:07

in Australia . Where's that lamb

57:09

going ? I know where

57:11

it's going . It's not going to the

57:13

Australian citizens . It's being

57:15

sold on the global market to the highest

57:17

bidders . Australia

57:20

produces a heck of a

57:22

lot of beef . Where's all that beef

57:24

going ? I know where it's going

57:26

. It's going to the highest bidders on the global

57:29

markets . You're

57:31

not getting , you're being given access

57:33

to a lot of your resources , a

57:36

lot of your citizens and

57:38

your soil and your water are

57:40

providing your country

57:42

. Where is your animal protein

57:44

being shipped to ? They're not getting

57:46

rid of that cow . They're getting rid of the

57:48

lamb . What they're doing is they're not going

57:50

to give the Western Hemisphere consumer

57:53

citizens market access . They're going

57:55

to basically put it on the global market

57:57

and basically is where

58:00

it's starting to buy and

58:02

end competition on the

58:04

resources in which the consumers do

58:06

not understand that's unfolding .

58:12

Yeah , it's a very complex geopolitical

58:15

game and

58:17

people are kind of

58:19

unintentionally can get caught

58:21

up in everything . But , as you say , if we keep

58:24

it on the individual level and really

58:26

think about us as individuals and what

58:28

we can do , then it makes

58:30

things so much more clear and easy

58:32

and we don't necessarily need to

58:34

get caught up in

58:36

the machinations of everything . And

58:38

what you said earlier in the discussion , slim

58:40

, it really made me think

58:42

of a Texan

58:45

cattleman Buddhist

58:47

monk who is simply

58:50

advocating for a

58:53

complete turning of inward . It's not about the external

58:55

world . It's not about finding fulfillment

58:58

or solution on anything

59:00

externally . This is an internal game

59:02

that every single person has to

59:05

a journey that they have to go

59:07

on themselves , and the outcome

59:09

of that internal journey will be finding

59:12

a path that

59:15

is first in your best interest and then

59:17

in the best interest of your family and

59:20

in your community and outward

59:22

from there . So , yeah , I really love

59:24

it , slim , and thanks

59:26

for coming on and sharing your

59:29

perspectives . Do you have any final or closing

59:31

thoughts to share with

59:33

people ?

59:35

Yeah , and once again , you

59:37

know they're in Australia . When we had that

59:40

summit , that beef initiative micro

59:42

summit , there at Jacobs and Wokie Farms

59:45

, I get up in front of everybody

59:47

and I said I'm

59:50

going to live rent free . In your head , you're

59:52

either going to love me or I'm

59:54

okay with that , because I know why , I

59:58

know my , I know

1:00:00

our renter , you know what happened

1:00:02

and I don't have to

1:00:04

. I don't want to apologize for

1:00:07

your complacency , but

1:00:09

anybody out there that's doing this , I

1:00:11

apologize for approaching

1:00:14

this . This is years of research

1:00:16

, this is unfolding . Everything

1:00:19

that I was writing three years ago is

1:00:21

coming true right now . And

1:00:23

once again , I'm here to save children's lives

1:00:25

and , if you can understand

1:00:27

that , you do not want

1:00:29

to be so confused that

1:00:31

you basically reach

1:00:34

human right now and looking for a different

1:00:36

form of interaction with each other . We're

1:00:39

trapped in a digital , basically algorithm

1:00:41

that's making us feel alone . It's

1:00:44

basically separating us from ourselves

1:00:46

. In a way , we have religion

1:00:49

of self . Now we don't know that

1:00:51

self , you know , and our

1:00:53

friend Izzy talks about that all . But

1:00:55

it's so true . It's

1:00:58

okay to basically start

1:01:01

over , it's okay to pause . There

1:01:03

are solutions out there and we

1:01:05

have so many testimonies from people

1:01:07

that have done the simple little actions

1:01:09

that we were talking about today and

1:01:12

it saved their lives . I

1:01:14

met somebody in Boston . It was a couple

1:01:16

and they weren't going to have children . They

1:01:18

weren't . Their medical health

1:01:20

was compromised . Well , they heard

1:01:23

one of our podcasts . They changed

1:01:25

their consumption model . They now have

1:01:27

a baby girl . That baby girl is

1:01:29

being raised with protein number

1:01:31

one and they're all healthy . They're

1:01:34

all healthy , happy . They didn't change much

1:01:36

. They just changed their consumption model and

1:01:39

everybody has to remember the reason

1:01:41

this happens is because

1:01:43

of where we put our dollars . If

1:01:46

you take the dollars , your intentional

1:01:48

spending out of this basically

1:01:51

complex , they have no power

1:01:53

. I tell everybody , if

1:01:56

you believe that everything that we're saying even

1:01:58

isn't the truth which

1:02:00

it is , it's all the way true . If

1:02:02

you can do that , then basically quit

1:02:05

validating the decisions as the individual

1:02:07

. Every time you go to the supermarket

1:02:09

, every time that you compromise , every

1:02:12

time that you go and search for convenience

1:02:14

, every time you do not basically

1:02:16

intentionally plan your consumption model

1:02:18

, you're validating the deceptions . I

1:02:21

don't care to validate the deceptions , I

1:02:24

will not , because I want to check

1:02:26

my son , basically be able

1:02:28

to have as much innocence and

1:02:30

happiness as a child

1:02:32

. That's not too much to ask for

1:02:34

. If you can't do it for yourself , do it for

1:02:36

the children . It's

1:02:40

not as much . I don't want children

1:02:42

on diabetes . Children

1:02:46

shouldn't be on anti-depressants . Children

1:02:48

shouldn't be on all these medications . That has

1:02:50

just happened in a very short period of time . Within

1:02:54

the beef initiative . We go to the beef initiative

1:02:57

, beefinitiativecom . Sign

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up . We have a newsletter , five

1:03:01

publications now . Max

1:03:04

, I was talking to our executive producer

1:03:06

, june . He follows you . He's

1:03:08

following everything you guys are doing . This

1:03:11

collaboration is on and on Everybody

1:03:13

out there . Go and sign up , get our newsletters

1:03:16

, become part of the collaboration

1:03:18

, share it , be bold , be

1:03:21

straightforward . Put hide in the shadows

1:03:23

Insumption models it's

1:03:26

an underscoring model . Decide

1:03:28

and communicate , with respect

1:03:31

for you guys and everybody in Australia

1:03:33

. That's all . Guys , be bold . Don't

1:03:35

know when , but we're going to continue

1:03:37

this and we're going to keep on doing this

1:03:40

type of collaboration , communication

1:03:42

, education , entry points

1:03:44

for solutions . We're just not going to

1:03:46

talk about the issues anymore . We're going

1:03:48

to find , basically , a new market

1:03:50

, access to life . That's what

1:03:52

we're here for .

1:03:52

Fantastic . Well

1:03:55

, thank you so much to them and we'll talk again

1:03:57

soon .

1:03:59

I appreciate you , max . We

1:04:02

will see you sooner , definitely

1:04:05

. We'll see what we can come up with . Thanks

1:04:22

, scientist .