3:40

okay , welcome back to a special episode

3:43

of the regenerative health podcast . In

3:45

this episode , I'm going to be giving a

3:48

recount of my time

3:50

in el salvador and specifically

3:52

, the reason why I traveled

3:54

to that central american country was

3:57

to attend an event called

3:59

the Age of Light , and the

4:01

Age of Light was hosted

4:04

and participated by Dr

4:06

Jack Cruz , amongst a range of other interesting

4:09

guests , and the topic of this

4:11

was decentralization

4:14

and the decentralized health movement

4:17

that is currently being

4:19

built in El Salvador

4:21

and using that country

4:24

and that legal system as

4:26

a real epicenter or nucleus

4:28

of medical

4:31

innovation with

4:34

regard to patient rights

4:36

and with regard to extremely

4:39

strong informed consent . The

4:42

overview of this episode I'm going to talk a little

4:44

bit about El Salvador , a

4:47

little bit about my trip , and then we'll go deep

4:49

into this event for

4:51

you all and give you an idea about

4:53

what it meant and what

4:55

was said there and the implications of

4:57

that . I'll get started

4:59

with a background about

5:01

El Salvador , because many

5:04

of you are listening from Australia and

5:06

some are listening from the United States , and

5:09

it might be a question on your

5:11

mind as to why is

5:13

a doctor from Australia talking

5:16

about a tiny Central American

5:18

republic ? So , to

5:21

understand the background of this

5:23

whole movement . We

5:25

have to understand what was going on

5:27

in El Salvador , and , like

5:29

many countries in Latin America

5:31

, it had a turbulent past

5:33

, and that past included

5:36

political instability

5:38

, regime change , civil war

5:40

, violence and all

5:43

the kind of downstream economic

5:46

consequences of that instability

5:48

, which is , you know , it's difficult

5:50

for people and a

5:53

country to prosper in the face

5:55

of such uncertainty and

5:58

instability . Something changed

6:00

dramatically in 2019

6:02

, and that was the election of

6:05

a man

6:07

called Nayib Bukele , now

6:09

Bukele . He was elected . He's

6:12

a younger guy and he

6:14

was elected with , I

6:16

guess , maybe the same promises that lots

6:19

of politicians exhort

6:21

and advertise , but

6:23

the difference between him

6:26

and others is that he actually executed on

6:29

his promises . So El Salvador

6:31

was notorious for being one

6:34

of the , if not the , homicide

6:37

kind of hotspot in

6:39

Central America , and within a

6:41

surprisingly short amount of time , he

6:44

was able to completely

6:47

turn around the country from a

6:49

safety point of view , and

6:51

what this involved was essentially

6:53

putting a whole bunch of

6:56

criminals and gang members

6:58

into jail . In

7:00

a surprisingly short amount of time , el

7:02

Salvador has gone from one

7:05

of the most dangerous places in Latin America

7:07

and the world to the

7:10

safest , and I believe there was just data released

7:12

recently the homicide rate

7:16

in El Salvador currently

7:18

is the lowest in Latin America

7:20

, and that is even lower than traditionally

7:23

very , very safe countries like Costa

7:26

Rica , like Uruguay . So

7:28

they have done incredibly well

7:30

in a very short amount

7:33

of time . So

7:37

the reason why some of you might have become

7:39

aware of El Salvador is that it

7:42

wasn't only a

7:44

crime cleanup that made Bukele

7:46

famous . What he did was

7:49

implement a law

7:51

that made Bitcoin

7:53

a legal tender in that country

7:55

legal

8:02

tender in that country . Prior to this , el Salvador had

8:04

been reliant on the US dollar for , essentially , its currency

8:07

as a domestic currency . So , like

8:09

other countries I believe Ecuador

8:15

as well El Salvador didn't have its own monetary

8:17

policy . It was simply dependent

8:21

on the US

8:23

dollar and was basically using

8:25

the US dollar . So what Bukele

8:28

did is allowed people

8:30

in his country to use

8:33

Bitcoin , the

8:35

digital currency , bitcoin

8:43

, the digital currency , in addition to or alongside the US dollar in terms of everyday transactions

8:45

, in terms of possession . The

8:47

reason or the implication of this is that it

8:50

became less like an asset and

8:52

more like a transactional currency , meaning

8:54

it was much easier for people to conduct

8:56

business without having to go

8:59

through onerous accounting

9:01

hurdles in terms of daily

9:04

use . So

9:06

this was interesting and

9:08

kind of pivotal , because

9:10

they were the first country to essentially

9:12

adopt this digital

9:14

currency , bitcoin , as

9:17

a legal tender , and not only did

9:19

they enable it for the

9:22

citizens to use , but they also began to store

9:25

or stockpile or purchase Bitcoin

9:28

, and they've since become known

9:31

as the most favorable jurisdiction

9:33

in the world for Bitcoin

9:36

. If you want to learn

9:39

more about Bitcoin specifically , I won't go

9:41

into too much depth only to

9:43

say that it is a neutral currency and

9:46

the features of

9:48

its monetary

9:50

policy mean that it is not

9:53

able to be printed or diluted

9:55

by government . So

9:57

essentially , what Bukele did was

10:01

separate the money creation

10:03

or money printing ability from

10:05

his own government , which is

10:07

quite an altruistic thing

10:10

to do , and it's been very , very empowering

10:12

for his citizens . So that

10:15

is the background for

10:18

what has kind of came next

10:20

in terms of the Age of Light event

10:23

and the declaration

10:25

or the amendment that Dr

10:28

Jack Cruz has written as

10:30

it relates to medicine . But the

10:33

theme that the Bukele

10:35

government and the

10:38

country as a whole is moving

10:40

towards is decentralization

10:42

and empowerment of its

10:44

citizens in many ways

10:47

, and I guess the foundation of

10:49

that was these monetary

10:51

rights that

10:53

the president , the regime , the government

10:55

gave to the citizens . So

10:58

I flew into El Salvador

11:00

a couple days prior

11:02

to to the event and

11:05

what I ? What we did ? First

11:07

, we we went to the

11:09

epicenter of um

11:11

, where everything is happening in el salvador , and that

11:13

is an area called uh el zonte

11:15

beach , and what I did was

11:17

I I got in touch with the

11:20

owen quilliam , who some

11:22

of you might have listened to my episode

11:25

with owen on beef back better now . Now

11:27

, owen is an Australian

11:29

who started a fully grass-fed beef

11:31

company in El Salvador

11:34

, being the intermediary between fully

11:36

grass-fed beef suppliers and the locals

11:38

and doing really well in providing

11:41

this great service . So Owen's since moved

11:43

on from the company but he has

11:45

passed on to another Australian , james

11:47

, and I got in touch with James just

11:49

before I touched down and when

11:51

I arrived we had a massive

11:54

pack of fully grass-fed beef

11:56

from Beef Back Better . So

11:58

it was a fantastic start

12:01

to the holiday of just being

12:03

able to grill and have

12:06

really high-quality beef , and

12:08

that is something that didn't exist and I really

12:10

encourage you to go back to listen to my podcast

12:12

if you guys are interested . But the

12:14

status quo for El Salvador

12:17

prior to this , prior

12:19

to Beef Back Better , was imported

12:21

often imported meat of

12:23

unclear provenance with unclear

12:26

chemical and hormonal treatments

12:28

. So it was great to get

12:31

that beef and taste it . It was fantastic . So

12:33

what we did then is explored

12:36

the town , and

12:40

it's a very easy walkable beach

12:42

town . The people

12:44

there are extremely friendly and welcoming

12:47

. Um

12:50

, there's , the people there are extremely friendly and welcoming and everyone

12:52

is very much happy and facilitating of of tourism , the . The language

12:55

of el salvador is spanish , so everything

12:57

, um , while

12:59

a lot of people are bilingual and english

13:02

is spoken uh , it will also help

13:04

if you can speak Spanish

13:06

. I would

13:09

highly recommend , if anyone visits this , to

13:11

see James and get yourself some grass-fed

13:14

beef . So I also met up

13:16

with friends , kira

13:19

and Tristan so

13:21

many of you who've listened to the podcast and heard

13:24

my episodes with Tristan Scott will

13:27

be familiar with Tristan and Kira , who

13:30

is also Australian , and

13:32

they were both visiting

13:34

and had been there for the

13:36

conference . So it was great to to meet

13:38

them in person and a range of other interesting

13:40

people who it's who

13:42

I've been connecting with online

13:45

or talking to online and then

13:47

seeing in person . So

13:49

the type of people there's

13:52

an expat community that

13:54

is slowly growing , and these are

13:56

not only people who are there

13:59

or Bitcoiners , but there's also people

14:01

who are there because they

14:03

follow Dr Jack Cruz's work , and

14:06

Dr Jack Cruz moved there , I believe , a couple years

14:09

ago and he's really been

14:12

an advocate for El Salvador

14:14

for a bunch of reasons . One

14:16

of them is the monetary situation

14:19

, but another one is the fact that it is

14:21

at the 13th latitude , so this

14:24

is an area of quite

14:27

high UV yield , especially considering

14:29

or keeping in mind where

14:31

maybe a lot of people come from in

14:34

North America . So there

14:36

is abundant ultraviolet light around

14:38

UVB all year round and

14:40

that is conducive to

14:42

healing , especially when

14:45

people are

14:47

quite sick . So

14:50

it was great to meet everyone

14:52

and spend some time , although

14:55

short , in Playa Elizonte

14:57

, and then what we did is

14:59

we traveled up

15:01

inland to a

15:03

place called Santa

15:05

Ana . I believe there are don't

15:08

quote me , I won't say the exact number , I don't want

15:10

to be wrong , but there are , I believe , just

15:12

under 10 volcanoes in El Salvador

15:14

, and this one is

15:17

a very interesting and nice

15:20

volcano . But the place

15:22

where we went for the Age of Light conference

15:24

was in the looking

15:27

out over this volcano . So

15:31

the event was organized by a

15:33

group called Palestra Society and they

15:35

are essentially advancing

15:38

the decentralized health

15:40

and decentralized principles

15:43

really using El Salvador

15:45

or basing themselves in this

15:47

country for the reasons that I

15:50

mentioned earlier . So there

15:53

was a whole

15:55

roster of interesting speakers who

15:58

were each offering

16:00

an interesting perspective based

16:03

on this idea of decentralization

16:06

, and yeah

16:09

who , I guess each offered

16:11

something differently , so

16:15

I won't talk about each and every one of them , but

16:17

I'll make mention of some very , very interesting

16:19

ones that I think stood out to me , and

16:22

the first speaker was Erwin

16:24

Lecour . Now , erwin is a French

16:27

gentleman who has had a long

16:29

and is very well known in

16:32

the natural movement

16:34

area , so he's a strong

16:36

advocate for moving

16:39

in an ancestral way and in a

16:41

way that is free

16:43

from contrived machines

16:45

or other kinds of devices

16:48

that would perhaps optimize

16:50

our body physically in areas or

16:52

directions that aren't consistent

16:55

with our ancestral past . So

16:58

that was a very interesting talk and

17:00

it made a lot of sense , and he

17:02

put up an image of a cheetah and

17:05

compared that to this

17:07

workout machine that

17:09

we as humans would use and

17:12

asking a rhetorical question about do

17:15

you think that the cheetah would need to use a machine like

17:17

this ? And obviously not . The

17:19

cheetah has instinctual knowledge

17:21

and instinctual understanding

17:23

of natural movement , and that

17:25

is something that we as humans can

17:28

learn from in terms of optimizing

17:30

our physical activity Something

17:33

that I like to advocate myself

17:35

which is exercising outdoors

17:37

and exercising in natural

17:39

light and preferably bare

17:42

feet while grounded , and I think we've

17:44

come a long way from

17:46

where we used to be

17:48

in terms of exerting ourselves

17:50

outdoors , and now people are wearing

17:53

shoes , they're under blue light

17:55

and that whole process is

17:57

profoundly inappropriate

18:00

when we think of our ancestral

18:02

past . So that

18:04

was a great talk , and we

18:07

also and I didn't mention this prior

18:10

, but just before we came to the

18:12

Age of Light event I had the pleasure of

18:14

meeting up and meeting Anjan

18:17

Kata Now you guys are going to hear

18:20

from him next week when I drop

18:22

my podcast with him but he is

18:24

the founder and CEO

18:26

of Daylight Computer Company

18:28

. Daylight Computer Company

18:30

is essentially

18:32

being built to answer

18:35

the problem of blue light

18:37

emission and profoundly

18:39

human , unfriendly technology

18:41

devices . What they have managed

18:44

to do is to build a display

18:46

. What they have managed to do is to build a display , an iPad , and their first

18:48

product is an iPad that does

18:51

not emit blue

18:53

wavelength isolated blue wavelength light

18:56

, and

19:03

they've got very ingenious designs that allow it to be used in daylight and used after

19:05

dark , but not in a way that is going

19:08

to be disruptive to your circadian rhythm

19:10

and therefore become

19:12

a health hazard . So I had the pleasure

19:14

of recording with both Tristan , who is now

19:17

working for Daylight Computer , and Anjan

19:19

the day before , and I really got

19:22

to understand what their

19:24

mission is and this idea of

19:26

how would we build a computer

19:28

from first principles if we started

19:30

from just the

19:32

idea of human health or

19:35

human-friendly technology , and that

19:37

is definitely something that isn't

19:40

underlying the design philosophy of

19:43

the big tech companies , who

19:46

are having technology

19:49

products that are instead

19:51

quite intentionally designed

19:54

to invite

19:56

us to use them such that we

19:58

might become addicted . So it was great

20:00

to meet Anjan . He actually spoke at the Age

20:03

of Light on the following event and

20:05

he gave an overview of his personal journey

20:07

and his struggles with blue

20:09

light toxicity and anxiety and

20:11

depression as a result of technology

20:14

abuse , and so that was a

20:16

good talk and again

20:19

, stay tuned next week if you want to hear

20:21

my podcast on that . One of

20:23

the great interesting other

20:25

speakers was Michael Shapiro , and Michael

20:27

is an aerospace engineer who

20:30

is also the founder of GetChroma

20:32

. So Michael has designed

20:35

, amongst a range of interesting things

20:37

, some

20:39

very good photobiomodulation

20:41

devices , and he's actually built

20:44

a couple of devices with specific

20:46

acknowledgement or

20:48

design to include

20:51

specific wavelengths of light that

20:53

we have to target our

20:56

non-visual photoreceptors like

20:58

encephalopsin , that

21:01

I don't believe any other company at the moment

21:04

is doing . I haven't personally used those devices

21:06

, but the innovation

21:08

is something that I respect immensely and this

21:10

idea of again building

21:12

technology and potentially

21:15

therapeutic devices that are

21:17

directly targeted to

21:19

our biological

21:22

needs and our biological

21:24

features . So Michael talked

21:26

about a range of topics , but

21:28

he talked about the need

21:31

to build and

21:33

focus on engineering , focus

21:35

on first principles and not

21:37

on reasoning

21:39

by analogy and that is something that I try

21:41

and include or leverage

21:44

when I think about health and I think about other

21:46

problems is how can we as much as possible

21:48

understand a system and think from

21:50

first principles rather than by

21:53

analogy or by ? Something

21:55

that people have always done

21:58

and that reflects

22:00

in engineering particularly this

22:02

idea of trial and error , and maybe

22:05

you might not understand academically

22:07

or from a theoretical point of view

22:09

exactly how something might

22:12

be working From an engineering

22:14

point of view . Just using that trial

22:16

and error can be extremely

22:18

valuable and in some

22:20

regards we do . We listen in health

22:22

to people's unique experience

22:25

. We listen to their N equals one

22:27

experiment and that in itself

22:29

is an incredibly valuable and

22:31

informative piece of information

22:33

and I think that definitely

22:36

gets lost in a

22:38

centralized medical model that is kind

22:42

of obsessed with randomized

22:44

control trial as this gold standard

22:46

of research and not

22:48

to . Obviously it has a place

22:50

. But if we're ignoring very

22:53

important anecdotal responses

22:55

on an individual level to different

22:57

lifestyle interventions , different medications

23:00

, whatever they may be

23:02

, then we are kind of missing a

23:04

very , very critical part in my mind

23:06

of health-optimized

23:09

individual . Michael's

23:12

talk was very interesting and next

23:15

Kira spoke . And Kira , for

23:17

those who don't know , was training as

23:19

a nurse on the Sunshine

23:21

Coast in Queensland and she

23:23

was not

23:26

able to continue her training due

23:28

to mandates

23:30

and those mandates weren't lifted

23:33

until recently . But they essentially

23:36

forced her out

23:38

of clinical practice and into health

23:43

optimizing , health coaching and put

23:45

her down a very interesting path

23:47

and I think she's subsequently done very well and she's creating very , very interesting

23:49

path and I think she's subsequently done very well and she's creating very , very

23:52

great content and helping

23:54

lots of people . But it was very

23:56

interesting to

23:58

hear her first-hand account of

24:01

that journey and

24:03

what it took and the costs

24:05

that it put upon

24:07

her to stay

24:10

true to her values despite what

24:13

you know the structures around her

24:15

employers university were

24:17

insisting . Check

24:20

out Kira on her Instagram

24:22

profile and her work , if you haven't

24:24

already . She's posting

24:26

very , very good and interesting content

24:28

on quantum health . So

24:31

the next speaker

24:33

that was

24:35

interesting was Max

24:38

Keiser . Now Max Keiser , I

24:40

believe , is a very old

24:43

Bitcoin advocate and

24:45

he made the

24:48

points or covered

24:50

a range of topics that illustrated

24:53

how the separation

24:55

of the money from the

24:59

government of El Salvador was and

25:02

is a prerequisite to increasing

25:04

freedom and increasing prosperity

25:07

of its citizens . So his perspective

25:09

was very interesting and definitely

25:13

worth hearing . So

25:16

the final or

25:18

the main talk was Dr

25:21

Jack Cruz , and Dr

25:23

Jack Cruz was presenting

25:26

, and he presented what he

25:28

has formulated in terms

25:30

of what

25:33

are constitutional amendments to

25:35

the El Salvador constitution

25:38

. What he

25:40

proposed and what he has written

25:43

are a set

25:45

of law or text

25:48

that specifically protects

25:50

the rights of

25:52

patients in

25:54

that country . So I

25:57

guess the background to why

26:00

this was necessary I mean , I think

26:02

that

26:05

a lot is quite

26:07

self-evident in many ways

26:09

with regard to the

26:11

kind of indication or

26:14

the reason why

26:16

this might be necessary

26:19

and the

26:21

application

26:23

of what Cruz wrote

26:26

is specifically to protect

26:28

the sanctity of what should

26:30

be a very intimate

26:33

relationship , that is , between the patient

26:35

and the doctor , and what

26:37

we've seen over the past four

26:40

years was a

26:43

situation where

26:46

in many cases , that

26:48

relationship , the integrity of that

26:50

relationship , was

26:52

not respected and the

26:54

outcome is inevitably

26:56

, in any situation where the

26:59

doctor has to consider other interests

27:02

other than their patient , the only

27:04

outcome can be a suboptimal

27:07

for the patient a sub-optimal for

27:09

the patient . So that is kind of the background

27:12

to why these laws were

27:14

, or why this was required

27:17

or why it was written . Not

27:21

only is he seeking to patch

27:24

that hole in terms of what

27:27

I kind of frame as a security

27:30

vulnerability in the

27:32

software of

27:34

society , but also to fix

27:37

the peer review process , and

27:40

the peer review process in

27:42

science is something that has

27:44

been susceptible to

27:46

influence and a

27:48

range of academic

27:51

and university and even

27:53

corporate interests that make the publication

27:56

of unbiased science and innovative

27:58

science quite difficult . So

28:01

he also talked about how

28:03

we might solve this problem , again

28:05

building on the structure that

28:22

the Bitcoin protocol is offering

28:25

the US constitution and

28:28

the fact that in

28:30

the US constitution they didn't decide

28:32

to include any protection

28:35

for medical freedom

28:38

or medical sovereignty . So

28:41

what I think the interesting

28:43

or fascinating implication of this

28:45

past four and five years is

28:47

that what has happened

28:50

has really revealed , maybe , a

28:52

vulnerability that no one really

28:54

understood or no one was able to see

28:56

until now , in terms

28:58

of how

29:00

medicine and medical

29:03

needs and medical

29:05

indications could be basically

29:07

manipulated to further

29:09

other interests . So that was the

29:11

thrust of Dr

29:14

Jack Cruz's presentation was explaining exactly

29:16

how these laws might be

29:19

implemented and how they might help

29:21

to protect people . They

29:24

encompass , in a very

29:26

interesting way , a whole bunch

29:28

of areas or aspects

29:31

of health that have not

29:33

necessarily only to do with mandated

29:36

medicine , but also with other

29:39

technologies or other impositions

29:42

into public health

29:46

, whether that might be additives

29:50

, medication , whether that might

29:52

be air contamination

29:54

and air pollution . All of

29:56

these various aspects

30:00

of health have

30:02

been considered and are going to

30:04

be implemented in

30:07

this law . It was to

30:10

understand the kind

30:12

of degree to which this

30:14

was interesting and essentially groundbreaking

30:17

was the following talk

30:19

by President Bukele

30:21

himself , who had pre-recorded

30:24

his speech

30:27

. But basically what President

30:29

Bukele illustrated was

30:31

that he deeply understands

30:34

the issues or the problems that

30:36

have been kind

30:38

of bubbled over or culminated from

30:40

centralized systems

30:42

and how influence

30:45

by centralized systems

30:47

have led to these

30:51

outcomes or these implications

30:54

where the individual and

30:56

the individual person and the individual citizen

30:58

might not be getting the impartial

31:01

, unbiased health

31:03

advice or health care that

31:06

they deserve . So it

31:08

was . It's fascinating

31:10

to see how

31:13

quickly or how intimately

31:15

the president is

31:18

abreast of these problems

31:20

and how willing he is to address

31:23

them . So what are my thoughts

31:25

? So that was the event

31:27

and again , I've given you a brief

31:30

overview . If you're wanting the kind

31:32

of nitty grittyitty I'm happy to tell

31:34

you more in my private group . But the

31:37

events , or

31:39

the implications , I think

31:41

, of the event and this

31:44

announcement , they're truly groundbreaking

31:46

. The reason Dr

31:48

Cruz chose El Salvador is because

31:51

the proximity to

31:53

the legal

31:56

structure

31:58

, in the form of a president

32:00

who's incredibly forward-thinking , incredibly

32:02

interested in the welfare of his citizens

32:05

and incredibly ready

32:07

to make bold changes

32:10

for the advancement of

32:12

his country , means

32:14

that this is like a force multiplying

32:16

effect , this idea that if

32:18

the El Salvadorian constitution

32:21

might be updated with special

32:24

protections for people , then

32:26

this might more easily be able to be

32:28

replicated in other countries

32:31

and in bigger countries where there's

32:33

greater distance between the

32:36

legislative level

32:39

and individuals

32:42

. It's a unique

32:44

situation where the

32:47

size , or the small size , of El

32:50

Salvador is really providing quite

32:52

an ample

32:55

or suitable place to

32:59

introduce these types of

33:01

approaches into the world . So

33:15

the medical freedom laws and I Cruz

33:17

is proposing is really fixing

33:19

a security hole in

33:22

the way that societies

33:25

have had and the way

33:27

that events happen

33:30

to allow freedoms

33:33

and incursions into the

33:35

doctor-patient relationship that previously

33:38

weren't tolerated

33:41

in the medical field

33:43

. And I think that

33:45

getting back to this

33:48

fundamental relationship and this fundamental

33:50

axiom of our

33:53

medical industry

33:55

is important , and what

33:57

that is is this sanctity

34:00

, and I think that

34:02

I'm excited for what

34:04

could happen and what could come of this because

34:06

of how important

34:10

that is to everyone

34:12

doctors and patients . So

34:15

that was kind of a summary of

34:17

what happened there and again

34:20

, if you're interested in learning the nuts

34:22

and bolts , read Dr Jack Kruse's blog post

34:25

and listen to updates

34:28

that are coming out . But I think that

34:30

this is an extremely

34:32

exciting development and , again

34:34

, something that is going to be for

34:36

the benefit of basically everyone , except

34:40

for , perhaps , the overly

34:43

corporatized , centralized entities

34:45

that perhaps have

34:47

a financial benefit . But really

34:50

the implications

34:52

are huge and I'm very excited

34:54

to be following this into

34:57

the future . So my

34:59

thoughts on El Salvador

35:01

in general is that it's

35:04

a very exciting place and it's a very

35:07

interesting place to

35:10

have all this thing going on . I

35:13

visited the National Library

35:15

in San Salvador after the

35:17

Age of Light event , very briefly

35:19

, and what we saw

35:21

there is a lot of very

35:23

happy people in

35:26

a newly built building with

35:29

an abundant access to books

35:31

and literature , and everyone was learning

35:33

. They were having fun on

35:35

a Sunday , so it was exciting

35:38

to see . And there's obviously civil works

35:40

happening . There's a lot of development happening

35:42

. I really got the impression that this

35:44

is a place of optimism

35:46

and development and

35:49

burgeoning economic prosperity . So

35:52

I think that is all has

35:54

happened or has become downstream of

35:57

these pretty pivotal

35:59

changes that Nayib Bukele

36:01

has implemented . So

36:03

the future as it pertains

36:05

to health

36:08

in El Salvador remains to be seen

36:10

exactly what it's going to look like . But it's

36:13

exciting to think that the development

36:16

of clinics , of hospitals that

36:18

prioritize human

36:20

health , as in this decentralized

36:23

health mindset

36:25

or perspective that

36:28

understands the circadian and quantum

36:30

needs of us and understands

36:32

the critical role of light

36:34

in this whole story . So

36:37

to think , or to see a hospital

36:39

that is built with windows

36:41

that simply open , that

36:43

perhaps feeds its

36:46

people locally

36:48

sourced produce and not

36:51

trace of carbs and processed seed oils , the

36:54

one that has a veranda or a

36:56

terrace where you can push

36:59

people out onto to get full spectrum

37:01

sunlight . So these are all the exciting things that

37:03

are potentially possible with

37:07

these types of laws and

37:10

implementation and willingness

37:12

from the people

37:15

that are in charge . So those

37:17

are my general thoughts . If you have any

37:19

comments or further

37:21

questions , then feel free to ask them . Join

37:24

up my school group to

37:26

ask me directly . But

37:28

yeah , I had a very good time

37:30

there . I think it

37:32

left me with a very positive feeling and

37:36

maybe , depending on where you

37:38

live , there might be feelings of pessimism

37:40

about the direction

37:43

of things , perhaps economically or

37:45

otherwise , but the overwhelming vibe

37:48

and energy of El

37:51

Salvador was positive . Of El Salvador

37:54

was positive and this idea that people are

37:57

collectively contributing to

37:59

something that's greater than their

38:01

individual selves , that people are building towards

38:04

an ideal and a new

38:06

ideal yes , that's

38:08

all I have to say about that . And follow

38:10

along and obviously I'll

38:13

be following along closely to find

38:15

out how these constitutional

38:17

amendment with regard to medical freedom

38:20

is being implemented

38:22

. So that's all from me

38:24

. If you are in

38:27

Melbourne on the 21st of

38:29

April so coming up on the several

38:31

weeks to go then we would love to see

38:33

you at the Regenerate Health Summit and

38:36

I will be speaking alongside Dr

38:38

Anthony Chafee , dr Jalal

38:40

Khan , dr Pran Yoganathan , natalie

38:43

West and Charlie

38:46

Onn . So if you haven't got

38:48

your ticket yet , grab that and we

38:50

will see you there . So thanks for

38:52

listening and stay tuned

38:54

next week for the episode with

38:56

Andrew Nkara and

38:58

Tristan Scott where we go deep into

39:01

the daylight computer and

39:03

how this technology poses

39:07

an incredibly exciting development

39:09

for the future and for

39:11

technology use going forward

39:14

. Thanks ,