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Deadly Price of Greed: The Ocean Gate Tragedy

Deadly Price of Greed: The Ocean Gate Tragedy

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Deadly Price of Greed: The Ocean Gate Tragedy

Tuesday, 27th June 2023
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0:10

Let's take a look at Titan . So

0:14

we're coming into the sub . This is the

0:16

only toilet available on

0:19

a deep diving submersible Best seat

0:21

in the house . You can look out the viewport . We put

0:23

a privacy screen in , turn up the music

0:25

and it's very

0:27

popular . We have our control

0:30

screen here , our sonar screen here

0:32

and we can put any image we want in the back

0:34

And we take it a completely new approach to the

0:36

sub design and it's all run with this game

0:38

controller and these touch screens . So

0:40

if you want to go forward , you press forward , if

0:42

you want to go back , you go back , turn left

0:44

, turn right , go down , go up , and

0:47

it's Bluetooth so I can hand it to anybody And

0:49

it's meant for a 16-year-old to throw it around and

0:51

it's super durable . We keep a couple of spares on board

0:54

just in case . This is the second

0:56

year we've been out to the Titanic . We

0:58

went out in five eight-day

1:00

missions . We did about 10

1:02

dives to the wreck site of the Titanic

1:04

and we did an extra dive on an undiscovered

1:07

reef that we found .

1:09

Well , here's another sad incident

1:12

of what happens when you

1:15

let your ego get in the way of

1:18

safety for yourself , safety

1:20

for others and concern of

1:23

the human life . As

1:26

you guys heard playing around the world about

1:28

the story from Ocean

1:30

Gate , the

1:33

submersible that

1:36

imploded with five people

1:38

in there right .

1:39

Yes .

1:39

Millionaires was in there .

1:42

Millionaires .

1:43

Yeah , So the five

1:46

people in there , one was a millionaire

1:48

and

1:50

actually he had a son in there And

1:53

his son did not want to go on to

1:55

the trip itself .

1:58

He was terrified .

2:00

Yeah , and only reason why he did it ? because it was Father's

2:02

Day , father's Day weekend

2:04

. That's why , yeah , that's why It's like just sad eating

2:06

that .

2:06

It's not just sad .

2:09

Yeah , like how can you live with yourself after

2:11

knowing this

2:13

? You have caused so much

2:16

mischief just because you were greedy

2:18

.

2:18

Yep , greed does

2:20

it every time People and you

2:22

can tell he was greedy because he was asking others

2:25

to join and pretty much begging people

2:28

. But he definitely was greedy .

2:30

So tell us , who is this David Lockridge

2:33

guy .

2:36

David Lockridge , the

2:39

CEO of Ocean Gates Stockton

2:41

.

2:43

No , Stockton was the CEO , but

2:46

David was

2:48

actually the guy who was fired

2:50

.

2:51

Oh , of telling about the faulty equipment

2:54

and think , oh , okay , that's right , I didn't mix

2:56

up , but yeah .

2:57

Yeah , he was the guy to actually try to warn

3:00

the bosses about look , look , this

3:03

equipment that you're making

3:05

is not

3:07

up the par , and

3:09

don't you know ? they fired him . That's right

3:12

, they did . They fired him and he had to take them

3:14

to court . But they set a lot of court , but on

3:16

the closed amount of what happened , right . But

3:19

he warned them that you

3:21

need to take this to an outside , like

3:24

an outside auditing

3:26

system or whatever , but

3:28

they refused . He was more like so

3:30

hey , i'm

3:33

not going to let the somebody

3:36

else tell me what I should .

3:37

Right , and that's the ego . That

3:40

was his ego coming in thinking that he could keep

3:44

taking this cheap equipment

3:46

down what ? 4,000 feet deep

3:48

or so , i'm not quite sure , but it's very 13,000

3:51

.

3:51

Oh wow even more deeper than I thought

3:53

. And to let you know that just

3:56

the top of that , the 13,000 , nobody

3:59

has ever been rescued from

4:01

that From that depth

4:03

, that depth . That nobody ever been rescued that depth

4:06

, right , okay . Also

4:08

, the submersible

4:10

does not have a GPS on there , right

4:13

, right , and it cannot operate

4:15

without the boat , the

4:17

docking boat , do you know , the boat that was on top that

4:19

put the submersible

4:21

on the water ? It cannot operate

4:24

independently .

4:25

Oh , wow .

4:25

Piece of shit .

4:27

It seemed like it was just like a little tank that a kid

4:29

could build for a project .

4:30

Yeah , now , if this would have been okay

4:33

, if this was like a little project

4:35

, like maybe , if you just wanted to do

4:37

it like , have it above water

4:40

.

4:41

Well , or like you know how , when people snorkel

4:43

they kind of go down , Maybe

4:45

not too deep , maybe what ? 10 feet deep , Maybe

4:47

if even that , when they see the little- .

4:50

I would say maybe it was okay , like 100

4:52

, 200 feet or something that big .

4:54

Oh well , because it was big enough , but I've seen

4:56

snorkeling was- 13,000 feet , so that's a

4:58

big difference . And see , I didn't know they were that deep . I

5:01

said when I was doing research , there's something that's

5:03

at 4,000 meters but that

5:05

could be equivalent to 13,000

5:07

feet , Right ? So yeah , Right .

5:10

So it was way , way

5:12

, way- .

5:14

It was out of this league messing with the

5:16

oceans that depth . It was out

5:18

of this league .

5:19

Yeah , it was , it definitely was . It definitely was

5:21

Cause they , obviously they have built machines

5:23

that can view the Titanic , like

5:26

real submarines and real underground

5:28

submersibles that

5:31

meet standards , that can take pictures

5:33

. That's like that's all we have pictures of the Titanic

5:35

. So this thing , because they do

5:37

have the means or

5:39

the technology is available , right

5:42

, the technology is available to

5:44

view pictures of the Titanic , we

5:46

know- .

5:47

It's just that his particular

5:49

company was slacking in

5:51

all of the the

5:53

material and everything

5:55

the experience , the

5:58

, the material . A Lot

6:00

of the materials were bought at Camp

6:03

, camp , yeah , camp or world camp

6:05

was a camper world .

6:07

The controller was a $16

6:09

Logitech controller now

6:12

, and it's not that the funny thing is this . It's not

6:14

nothing ever wrong with Logitech , but you

6:16

don't .

6:17

Logitech never advertised their Controllers

6:20

to work a submarine of right or

6:22

and that's the problem , i should say , wrong with the , the

6:25

equipment It's just , you can't be used in

6:27

that right of trying to run a big

6:29

submarine or submersible , yeah

6:31

right and what kills me is that is

6:34

level of arrogance of like , oh yeah , how

6:36

we just got these laid around .

6:37

A 16-year-old could throw it around . That's what it says

6:39

. Why would you have something that that

6:42

after he just said that you use that

6:44

to navigate the submersible

6:46

And then you treat it on

6:49

your next breath There's a

6:51

16-year-old could throw this around . That's exactly

6:53

what he said it breaks . They say you keep multiple

6:55

ones on there . So you telling me

6:57

if somebody gets in there , like a 16-year-old

7:00

or whatever , and then they want

7:02

to go ahead and push onto the button

7:04

and then they're making nose dive and crash , that's

7:07

so . It's very easy to do .

7:09

Yep , that's what he even . He said it out

7:11

of his own mouth . Yeah , that's why they kept

7:13

multiple ones there . I mean , this is

7:15

just so sad on so many different

7:17

levels , because Just that's what

7:19

happened when companies are very greedy Yeah

7:22

, but we know that Companies

7:24

in America are they're still

7:26

thriving . That's that , were , that's

7:28

greed , greedy , yeah , and they keep Pushing

7:31

out products that cause cancer

7:33

, like Johnson and Johnson , they still

7:36

hear . They still make baby powder and

7:38

all kind of products , nestle

7:40

Pushing out baby

7:42

formula , that that you know

7:44

. Was it sufficient enough to sustain

7:46

the children , the babies ? Yeah

7:49

, because of malnutrition . So it's , these

7:51

companies are still around , they

7:53

greedy and they have , no

7:55

, you know , care To

7:57

the people that they kill or hurt , or that's

8:00

just how America is . Yeah , because

8:02

you know , like 37 products in America is

8:04

banned from other countries , yeah

8:06

, yeah yeah , but but

8:08

going .

8:09

You know that is true . We'll go

8:11

back to the . The submarine incident is

8:14

I Think

8:16

that this could have been , this

8:18

is could have been . This is not one of those thing that's mass produced

8:20

right is

8:22

No , this is something that

8:25

should have that had .

8:27

Taking the time to it's still a

8:29

company that promotes to individuals

8:32

a experience .

8:34

Right and safety should be first

8:36

, no matter what's whether it's not and I do

8:38

and I agree , but I guess the I

8:40

do what I'm saying . I guess it's just . The difference is that

8:42

When you produce something that's

8:44

mass produced , you know

8:46

there's a lot of more components

8:48

involved , right , like it usually

8:51

comes out of machines . Quality

8:53

is check of maybe you know

8:55

of maybe a certain batch of something , yeah

8:58

, maybe not , you know , maybe go uncheck

9:00

the way it's supposed to , but this is just only one

9:03

submarine or submersible , right

9:05

That that should have a Should

9:07

have been .

9:08

Yeah , way more attention

9:10

.

9:10

Yeah , but as it should have been , it shouldn't have

9:12

been , it shouldn't have been , this shouldn't

9:14

have happened .

9:15

So my question is he gets millionaires

9:17

and billionaires on these trips

9:19

?

9:20

Yeah right .

9:21

I don't understand for a life of me why

9:23

his equipment wasn't top-notch . I

9:26

mean , what are you doing with the money that you get from the

9:28

clients that pay for these expensive

9:30

trips ? That's another .

9:31

Well , it's well , it's because of the

9:34

stuff , the fact that It

9:36

takes a lot more money To

9:39

build a submersible , a proper

9:41

submersible . Then he had that's

9:43

what . That's what the problem really is . He

9:47

the money that he said he was not getting enough

9:49

clients for them to try out this

9:51

product , because when you look

9:53

at it , some most people will look at it like

9:55

holy shit , i'm not getting in this .

9:57

Yeah , because I think , from my research only

9:59

, it went out only two trip , one trip

10:02

before he . He went out with

10:04

a Few people and they said

10:06

it was a lot of issues when it went

10:08

out the first time and

10:10

now , of course , this time , unfortunately no one

10:13

returned , but Maybe

10:16

he was , you know , one of those people . That was fraud

10:18

and they just didn't have enough as much money as they let

10:20

on . But you would think , because of what I think

10:22

, the trip was 250 , 250,000

10:25

per person . So maybe that's not

10:27

a lot , like you said , to actually build a

10:29

proper Submersible submersible

10:31

, because I'm pretty sure they go into

10:33

hundreds and hundreds of thousands to really get

10:36

him .

10:36

Right and so to build a proper

10:38

for this type of mission that he the

10:40

time of machine that he needed to build that

10:42

was been caused .

10:44

Billions of dollars .

10:45

I can see , yeah , i do see like real

10:47

submarines cost billions of dollars

10:49

. Wow , real and a real submarine

10:51

can go anywhere in the world . But

10:53

those are , those are military , yeah , yeah

10:55

, yeah , submarines

10:58

. Now they do have really good submarines

11:00

that you can get for a couple hundred thousands

11:02

, but it's not meant to go . That D

11:04

, that's pop , but it's still go to like like

11:07

remember when We went to

11:09

Aruba and they had that submarine

11:11

that you know to have a dinner in , but that

11:13

was probably only like what , a hundred feet

11:16

Or something shit like yeah , on the world really wasn't

11:18

too deep , no , and , and if he has

11:20

something like that , then

11:22

that would . This would have been that particular

11:24

, but you know , it was too small for the experience

11:27

because that submarine was . But

11:29

having dinner and eating water

11:31

I mean time eating dinner on the water , yeah

11:33

, that what it was meant for , but it

11:35

didn't go far . It didn't go for a hundred

11:38

or 200 feet , something like that . That's too bad , was

11:40

? it wasn't like thousands of feet

11:42

, i , you know , and that was actually a better

11:44

built machine , you know . So

11:46

he should have went for something

11:48

like that instead . Actually

11:50

probably would have gotten a lot more investors

11:53

and a lot More people would have been more interested

11:55

in it .

11:55

Yeah , but see the thing about it , he

11:58

should have did it , but he's trying to play

12:00

up on that Titanic aspect , going down

12:02

to the Titanic , and the Titanic is yes

12:04

, d .

12:05

What do you think of this connection or his obsession with

12:07

the Titanic was .

12:09

I mean , i know that from my research that his wife

12:11

Wendy is . That was the

12:13

great , great granddaughter

12:15

of two Passengers

12:18

from the original Titanic . The

12:20

name was , let me see , i think it was Isdra

12:23

and Ida

12:27

and is door and

12:29

Isdor straws . So they both

12:31

died on in the Titanic , the actuals

12:33

, you know . So maybe he , his

12:36

obsession , was to play up off of that , maybe

12:38

, and it might , it might

12:40

have been . I mean To have that story tied

12:42

to the to the experience of the experience

12:44

, yeah game more money . Like hey , you know , my

12:47

wife , this , this Titanic is in our family

12:49

, it's , it's something that you know it's dear

12:51

near to our heart . I could see that yeah

12:53

, and then playing on that . But goodness gracious

12:55

, i mean I guess that was the lore

12:58

for some of these , probably because

13:00

, hey , i mean I didn't even know the Titanic

13:02

was that deep . But You

13:05

know , anybody could do a little , what

13:08

you call it like a little snorkel . You

13:10

know they got money to do that type of stuff . There's

13:12

no big deal . So I guess the delir

13:14

of it you know , because it's the

13:16

Titanic , you know it's like it would be

13:18

like kind of similar How do people sell art ?

13:21

You just attach a story to the wood and then it's

13:23

yeah , the whole something yeah , right

13:25

. Well , i think that's what , like you said , that

13:27

that would may have sold the story

13:29

, for people wanted to get onto this . Yeah

13:32

, some merciful and right to die . I'm

13:35

speaking of Titanic , though James

13:37

Cameron also commented on this situation

13:40

About it

13:42

. He said that he told be BBC

13:44

right that

13:46

he felt like The

13:49

whole thing when they're like the Navy in the Coast Guard

13:51

reported A

13:53

whole bunch of like banging and shit like that underwater

13:56

with the so-not buoys . He was thinking that it

13:58

was just basically a charade going on , right

14:00

, mm-hmm , um I . He

14:02

said he don't feel like that was actually them , but

14:05

then he said if he felt like that

14:08

, they actually probably would have died

14:10

on like Sunday , i believe he

14:12

said he said the way before

14:14

it was reported , yeah , that it was

14:16

ported missing to , but

14:18

it probably was already blown

14:21

up , i mean , you know , imploded by

14:23

that time , all right , and that banging

14:25

and whatever that he heard

14:27

.

14:27

Adam .

14:28

You don't think that it was them that was banging

14:30

on the ?

14:30

because from what I was researching

14:33

about implosion , it's seconds

14:36

, like miller , miller set . Whatever that I

14:38

was saying , it means less than seconds . That

14:40

you just so you don't even have time to Think

14:42

about .

14:43

You know , right , that has even

14:45

happened and that's you know and because

14:47

apparently the Submarine

14:50

supposed to have air for like

14:52

four days worth or something like that , i think that

14:54

was the submersible is supposed to have like a like

14:57

four days , i believe , before it runs at

14:59

60 hours or so something like

15:01

that Yeah .

15:01

I don't know but it was .

15:05

It's supposed to have done that , but of course it didn't last

15:07

that long because it didn't pull it . So

15:09

all of that banging and whatever they

15:11

couldn't have been banging , okay

15:14

, so kind of back up , right , this trip is what

15:16

the last two hours , one hour

15:18

45 minutes into the trip . Then

15:21

That's what they feel like eating

15:24

, that's what that's , because when they lost contact , Okay

15:26

so that's when they feel like Looking

15:29

back at the timeline . That's when the

15:31

implosion actually happened . Mm-hmm , not

15:33

days later . Like how they

15:35

they try to settle it .

15:37

I guess they was trying to maybe give some

15:39

hope , yeah , hope that some of

15:41

them were alive and not that it was

15:44

you know . So

15:46

I guess , like short

15:49

lived , of a little experience

15:51

, experience , because I mean an hour and a half

15:53

in or hour 45 , and it was that

15:55

was done . I feel like when they lost contact

15:58

is probably when it happened , because it doesn't take long

16:00

for it to implode . No and you and

16:02

you know , i didn't know that underwater that it could

16:04

be so quick , because I'm thinking underwater all the pressure

16:06

, it should take some time

16:09

. But no , they said it's less than a second

16:11

. Like it , just it's it . So

16:14

that was you know . It's sad to

16:16

know that this that agreed comes

16:18

people all . But this is how it goes . This

16:20

is how it is When people are

16:22

greedy . They care only about themselves

16:25

.

16:25

Yeah , so you know it's so unfortunate That

16:28

so many people have died like

16:30

but a couple of people did dodge the

16:32

bullet right Like . It's a youtuber

16:34

. His name is Jake

16:36

Kohler , i guess I'm pronouncing

16:38

that right . He was supposed

16:41

to go down there Lucky

16:43

, but it was saying that

16:45

it was malfunction . That's

16:48

why he did the trip Right And

16:52

this was days right before it did implode . A

16:55

lot of people , it really dodged the bullet .

16:56

Yeah , a few people dodged that bullet .

16:58

Yeah , it was another billionaire

17:00

, him and his son , something

17:03

they was offering Ocean Gate

17:05

. Ocean Gate was offering

17:08

a last minute discount or whatever , right

17:10

, and

17:12

they were like , well , i don't care about .

17:14

Yeah , they probably heard about some of

17:16

the . they probably did their research

17:18

and you hear about all of the . that's like when

17:21

you doing anything and you go to the reviews

17:23

, sure That the

17:25

ones that missed dodged the bullet . perhaps

17:27

they went to hear some of these things that

17:30

were going on with it .

17:31

Yeah , Well , you probably saw

17:33

the damn interview and he was

17:35

like hell , no Right , he

17:37

was like hell , no Yeah . Video

17:40

game remote control Yeah , and

17:42

he could stall around this controller . Even I

17:44

. I mean , that's what

17:46

, that's what got me Me too .

17:49

I was you mean to tell me that you that's

17:51

like I was saying like flying a plane with a

17:53

tarry joystick , like no

17:56

, you're not going to do that .

17:57

No , we wouldn't trust

18:00

air pilots just to control a plane

18:02

with an air with a $12 controller

18:04

.

18:04

Right .

18:05

So this is no different .

18:06

Exactly , it's the same thing .

18:08

Yeah , Because

18:13

we were supposed to be using

18:15

a highly sophisticated equipment

18:17

to you know , explore

18:20

.

18:20

Yeah , To maneuver these big , you know these

18:22

machines .

18:23

I mean , you're not going to fly into space with an iPad

18:25

, or your iPhone and control

18:28

it . That's not going to work . It's not

18:30

So why this guy thinks , but

18:32

that's what kills me , though . The air it gets behind

18:35

it causes

18:37

own life .

18:38

Yeah , And his own demise right At the end

18:40

of it .

18:41

He was on , he was on board as well . Disgree

18:44

And this causes own life And

18:46

unfortunately , for other people that

18:49

were , I think they were actually duped into

18:51

it Because

18:53

of the simplified that oh yeah , safe . He

18:56

just say that it was safe , but we do

18:58

know that we look upon

19:00

further investigation on this . It

19:04

was never safe .

19:05

Right And it didn't do

19:07

. Just like people that

19:09

like anything , people that don't

19:11

do the research and they just go to the first thing that

19:14

sounds like it's . It's all right

19:16

, it's nearby , i'll do it . I'm

19:18

with doctors that , like we see with women , with surgeries

19:20

, oh , i just go to him and he doesn't

19:23

matter . You know , I , i didn't do much research

19:25

, i just want someone cheap . I got the money

19:27

, i want the body and then they

19:29

die . But you have to do your research

19:31

with anything , with

19:33

anything , right ? So even you know

19:35

just the

19:38

life , you do have to just make sure you

19:40

take the time out to see what you're getting yourself

19:42

into . Because even when we do , we go

19:44

on trips , we do research . Yeah , there are the

19:46

places . Yeah , how many stars , the

19:49

food , the restaurants , i mean that

19:51

should be a given right .

19:52

So I don't think this just would have been on one

19:55

of those Yelp reviews .

19:56

But but they could have looked things up

19:58

and saw the man

20:01

, the guy who was talking about explaining , he

20:03

which took them to court because of the fall

20:05

. That's up there .

20:06

That's big . Yeah , that's a big indication

20:08

because you know the owner

20:10

itself was saying that , hey , i don't want

20:13

50 year old white guys telling me how

20:15

I should run this company Right , how

20:17

to make the submarine safe . Yeah

20:20

, lord has inspection , but he's plenty of time

20:22

that even in the waivers it says that this

20:25

trip may cause death .

20:26

Yeah , maybe cause death . They don't . They're

20:29

not responsible for anything and ultimately , the

20:31

last thing was death , right , yeah

20:33

, so maybe it's not like

20:35

you say in Yelp or wherever you look

20:37

for your stars , but yeah it's , the

20:39

research is on , posted

20:42

on TV or wherever

20:44

. You can definitely find where they were

20:46

getting sued or you know the man

20:48

was speaking about the false equipment .

20:50

Yeah , and you know

20:52

, i know this is just one of many crazy adventures

20:55

, but these things happen

20:57

more often than we realized

20:59

, don't you know ? already in 2023

21:01

, there's all have been over 623

21:05

extreme adventures

21:07

, deaths already . Didn't know that

21:09

There's like different things to write

21:12

things like . You know .

21:14

You know you pair parachuting like Oh

21:16

yeah , i do know that Paris

21:18

Saley , that's another one .

21:20

Yeah , that's that big incident out here

21:22

in Florida last year . Remember when

21:24

the Indian family

21:26

, the one that was killed , yeah , yeah , they hit

21:28

the bridge . The captain of the captain

21:30

decided to cut the the sale

21:33

line .

21:33

Instead of pulling down Right Right , his

21:35

equipment was faulty as well . Faulty

21:37

equipment , yeah . So

21:39

yeah , yeah . Some things that

21:42

, even if you know , i don't care how much money

21:44

I have , or it's things that I'm just not

21:46

gonna do , that I've that , that's

21:48

just me . Now , people may

21:50

still trust the pair of sailing and that doesn't

21:52

mean everybody's gonna , you know , get hurt

21:54

or die . But it's some things that I'm just not

21:56

willing to do because I don't trust my life in

21:59

the hands of , of really

22:01

humans . But sometimes we gotta trust because

22:03

of life . But if I don't have to

22:05

buy past certain things , i'll just bypass

22:07

.

22:07

So what would be the most extreme

22:10

adventure you think you would do

22:12

?

22:14

I think the zip lining was enough

22:16

for me when we were zip lining and that was

22:18

because , you know , i'm scared of heights so I'm not jumping out

22:20

of a plane . Yeah , i'm not about

22:22

the parasail over mountains , because we was

22:24

just gonna do that in Brazil . Yeah , we're gonna do

22:26

that , not me .

22:27

Yeah .

22:28

I'm not jumping off of in Vegas

22:30

, jumping off that big building .

22:32

So for the zip line , i don't even

22:35

talk about it , yeah .

22:36

We zip line over alligators . That's enough

22:38

for me .

22:38

Yeah , yeah , i think before

22:41

before seeing how far up you have to be

22:43

for parasailing , that was

22:45

gonna be my , my next , yeah , but

22:47

I do want to do my adventure

22:49

. That I do want to do would be shark

22:52

cave .

22:53

Yeah , you said that . See , i'm not , that I'm

22:56

not very adventurous . You are the very . You are

22:58

the adventurous one out of us . Out of the two

23:00

, i'm very .

23:03

I think , i think I do want to try that , but of course

23:05

it would have to be what a company

23:08

that I can like think I'm a chief

23:10

, or so .

23:10

Like I mean because , like I say , we do put

23:12

our trust in the hands of dentists

23:15

, doctors I doubt you know we do do it

23:17

. Yeah , we have to , but you know we

23:19

just have to just hope and pray and do

23:21

a little research and trust that you

23:24

know they're good . but I mean , these things

23:26

do happen unfortunately , but we can't

23:28

walk around the world not doing it's

23:30

earth doing nothing .

23:31

Yeah .

23:32

I mean you know .

23:34

Well , that is

23:36

a sad event , but you know .

23:38

I hope it is . I hope for people to really do

23:40

more research for , for

23:42

these activities and things like that .

23:44

Yeah , so any last word for our listeners

23:46

tonight .

23:47

No , that would be it . Just look into , look

23:49

into these activities

23:51

and these events and , just you know , take

23:54

a little time to research to see how safe they

23:56

are and maybe , if they do have reviews

23:58

, just look things up and , you know , play

24:01

it safe .

24:02

Yeah , i definitely agree . I definitely agree

24:04

. All right guys , thanks for listening and

24:06

we will catch you next time .

24:08

Good night .

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