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Let's take a look at Titan . So
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we're coming into the sub . This is the
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only toilet available on
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a deep diving submersible Best seat
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in the house . You can look out the viewport . We put
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a privacy screen in , turn up the music
0:25
and it's very
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popular . We have our control
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screen here , our sonar screen here
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and we can put any image we want in the back
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And we take it a completely new approach to the
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sub design and it's all run with this game
0:38
controller and these touch screens . So
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if you want to go forward , you press forward , if
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you want to go back , you go back , turn left
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, turn right , go down , go up , and
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it's Bluetooth so I can hand it to anybody And
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it's meant for a 16-year-old to throw it around and
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it's super durable . We keep a couple of spares on board
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just in case . This is the second
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year we've been out to the Titanic . We
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went out in five eight-day
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missions . We did about 10
1:02
dives to the wreck site of the Titanic
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and we did an extra dive on an undiscovered
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reef that we found .
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Well , here's another sad incident
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of what happens when you
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let your ego get in the way of
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safety for yourself , safety
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for others and concern of
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the human life . As
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you guys heard playing around the world about
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the story from Ocean
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Gate , the
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submersible that
1:36
imploded with five people
1:38
in there right .
1:39
Yes .
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Millionaires was in there .
1:42
Millionaires .
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Yeah , So the five
1:46
people in there , one was a millionaire
1:48
and
1:50
actually he had a son in there And
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his son did not want to go on to
1:55
the trip itself .
1:58
He was terrified .
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Yeah , and only reason why he did it ? because it was Father's
2:02
Day , father's Day weekend
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. That's why , yeah , that's why It's like just sad eating
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that .
2:06
It's not just sad .
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Yeah , like how can you live with yourself after
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knowing this
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? You have caused so much
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mischief just because you were greedy
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.
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Yep , greed does
2:20
it every time People and you
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can tell he was greedy because he was asking others
2:25
to join and pretty much begging people
2:28
. But he definitely was greedy .
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So tell us , who is this David Lockridge
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guy .
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David Lockridge , the
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CEO of Ocean Gates Stockton
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.
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No , Stockton was the CEO , but
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David was
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actually the guy who was fired
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.
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Oh , of telling about the faulty equipment
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and think , oh , okay , that's right , I didn't mix
2:56
up , but yeah .
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Yeah , he was the guy to actually try to warn
3:00
the bosses about look , look , this
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equipment that you're making
3:05
is not
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up the par , and
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don't you know ? they fired him . That's right
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, they did . They fired him and he had to take them
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to court . But they set a lot of court , but on
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the closed amount of what happened , right . But
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he warned them that you
3:21
need to take this to an outside , like
3:24
an outside auditing
3:26
system or whatever , but
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they refused . He was more like so
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hey , i'm
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not going to let the somebody
3:36
else tell me what I should .
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Right , and that's the ego . That
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was his ego coming in thinking that he could keep
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taking this cheap equipment
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down what ? 4,000 feet deep
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or so , i'm not quite sure , but it's very 13,000
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.
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Oh wow even more deeper than I thought
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. And to let you know that just
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the top of that , the 13,000 , nobody
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has ever been rescued from
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that From that depth
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, that depth . That nobody ever been rescued that depth
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, right , okay . Also
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, the submersible
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does not have a GPS on there , right
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, right , and it cannot operate
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without the boat , the
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docking boat , do you know , the boat that was on top that
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put the submersible
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on the water ? It cannot operate
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independently .
4:25
Oh , wow .
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Piece of shit .
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It seemed like it was just like a little tank that a kid
4:29
could build for a project .
4:30
Yeah , now , if this would have been okay
4:33
, if this was like a little project
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, like maybe , if you just wanted to do
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it like , have it above water
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.
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Well , or like you know how , when people snorkel
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they kind of go down , Maybe
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not too deep , maybe what ? 10 feet deep , Maybe
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if even that , when they see the little- .
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I would say maybe it was okay , like 100
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, 200 feet or something that big .
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Oh well , because it was big enough , but I've seen
4:56
snorkeling was- 13,000 feet , so that's a
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big difference . And see , I didn't know they were that deep . I
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said when I was doing research , there's something that's
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at 4,000 meters but that
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could be equivalent to 13,000
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feet , Right ? So yeah , Right .
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So it was way , way
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, way- .
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It was out of this league messing with the
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oceans that depth . It was out
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of this league .
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Yeah , it was , it definitely was . It definitely was
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Cause they , obviously they have built machines
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that can view the Titanic , like
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real submarines and real underground
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submersibles that
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meet standards , that can take pictures
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. That's like that's all we have pictures of the Titanic
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. So this thing , because they do
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have the means or
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the technology is available , right
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, the technology is available to
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view pictures of the Titanic , we
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know- .
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It's just that his particular
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company was slacking in
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all of the the
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material and everything
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the experience , the
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, the material . A Lot
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of the materials were bought at Camp
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, camp , yeah , camp or world camp
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was a camper world .
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The controller was a $16
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Logitech controller now
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, and it's not that the funny thing is this . It's not
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nothing ever wrong with Logitech , but you
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don't .
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Logitech never advertised their Controllers
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to work a submarine of right or
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and that's the problem , i should say , wrong with the , the
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equipment It's just , you can't be used in
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that right of trying to run a big
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submarine or submersible , yeah
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right and what kills me is that is
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level of arrogance of like , oh yeah , how
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we just got these laid around .
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A 16-year-old could throw it around . That's what it says
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. Why would you have something that that
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after he just said that you use that
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to navigate the submersible
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And then you treat it on
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your next breath There's a
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16-year-old could throw this around . That's exactly
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what he said it breaks . They say you keep multiple
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ones on there . So you telling me
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if somebody gets in there , like a 16-year-old
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or whatever , and then they want
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to go ahead and push onto the button
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and then they're making nose dive and crash , that's
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so . It's very easy to do .
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Yep , that's what he even . He said it out
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of his own mouth . Yeah , that's why they kept
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multiple ones there . I mean , this is
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just so sad on so many different
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levels , because Just that's what
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happened when companies are very greedy Yeah
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, but we know that Companies
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in America are they're still
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thriving . That's that , were , that's
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greed , greedy , yeah , and they keep Pushing
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out products that cause cancer
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, like Johnson and Johnson , they still
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hear . They still make baby powder and
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all kind of products , nestle
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Pushing out baby
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formula , that that you know
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. Was it sufficient enough to sustain
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the children , the babies ? Yeah
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, because of malnutrition . So it's , these
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companies are still around , they
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greedy and they have , no
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, you know , care To
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the people that they kill or hurt , or that's
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just how America is . Yeah , because
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you know , like 37 products in America is
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banned from other countries , yeah
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, yeah yeah , but but
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going .
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You know that is true . We'll go
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back to the . The submarine incident is
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I Think
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that this could have been , this
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is could have been . This is not one of those thing that's mass produced
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right is
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No , this is something that
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should have that had .
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Taking the time to it's still a
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company that promotes to individuals
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a experience .
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Right and safety should be first
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, no matter what's whether it's not and I do
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and I agree , but I guess the I
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do what I'm saying . I guess it's just . The difference is that
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When you produce something that's
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mass produced , you know
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there's a lot of more components
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involved , right , like it usually
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comes out of machines . Quality
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is check of maybe you know
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of maybe a certain batch of something , yeah
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, maybe not , you know , maybe go uncheck
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the way it's supposed to , but this is just only one
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submarine or submersible , right
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That that should have a Should
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have been .
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Yeah , way more attention
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.
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Yeah , but as it should have been , it shouldn't have
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been , it shouldn't have been , this shouldn't
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have happened .
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So my question is he gets millionaires
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and billionaires on these trips
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?
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Yeah right .
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I don't understand for a life of me why
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his equipment wasn't top-notch . I
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mean , what are you doing with the money that you get from the
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clients that pay for these expensive
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trips ? That's another .
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Well , it's well , it's because of the
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stuff , the fact that It
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takes a lot more money To
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build a submersible , a proper
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submersible . Then he had that's
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what . That's what the problem really is . He
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the money that he said he was not getting enough
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clients for them to try out this
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product , because when you look
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at it , some most people will look at it like
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holy shit , i'm not getting in this .
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Yeah , because I think , from my research only
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, it went out only two trip , one trip
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before he . He went out with
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a Few people and they said
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it was a lot of issues when it went
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out the first time and
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now , of course , this time , unfortunately no one
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returned , but Maybe
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he was , you know , one of those people . That was fraud
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and they just didn't have enough as much money as they let
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on . But you would think , because of what I think
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, the trip was 250 , 250,000
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per person . So maybe that's not
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a lot , like you said , to actually build a
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proper Submersible submersible
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, because I'm pretty sure they go into
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hundreds and hundreds of thousands to really get
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him .
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Right and so to build a proper
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for this type of mission that he the
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time of machine that he needed to build that
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was been caused .
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Billions of dollars .
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I can see , yeah , i do see like real
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submarines cost billions of dollars
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. Wow , real and a real submarine
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can go anywhere in the world . But
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those are , those are military , yeah , yeah
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, yeah , submarines
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. Now they do have really good submarines
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that you can get for a couple hundred thousands
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, but it's not meant to go . That D
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, that's pop , but it's still go to like like
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remember when We went to
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Aruba and they had that submarine
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that you know to have a dinner in , but that
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was probably only like what , a hundred feet
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Or something shit like yeah , on the world really wasn't
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too deep , no , and , and if he has
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something like that , then
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that would . This would have been that particular
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, but you know , it was too small for the experience
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because that submarine was . But
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having dinner and eating water
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I mean time eating dinner on the water , yeah
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, that what it was meant for , but it
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didn't go far . It didn't go for a hundred
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or 200 feet , something like that . That's too bad , was
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? it wasn't like thousands of feet
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, i , you know , and that was actually a better
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built machine , you know . So
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he should have went for something
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like that instead . Actually
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probably would have gotten a lot more investors
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and a lot More people would have been more interested
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in it .
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Yeah , but see the thing about it , he
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should have did it , but he's trying to play
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up on that Titanic aspect , going down
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to the Titanic , and the Titanic is yes
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, d .
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What do you think of this connection or his obsession with
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the Titanic was .
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I mean , i know that from my research that his wife
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Wendy is . That was the
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great , great granddaughter
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of two Passengers
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from the original Titanic . The
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name was , let me see , i think it was Isdra
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and Ida
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and is door and
12:29
Isdor straws . So they both
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died on in the Titanic , the actuals
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, you know . So maybe he , his
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obsession , was to play up off of that , maybe
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, and it might , it might
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have been . I mean To have that story tied
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to the to the experience of the experience
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, yeah game more money . Like hey , you know , my
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wife , this , this Titanic is in our family
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, it's , it's something that you know it's dear
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near to our heart . I could see that yeah
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, and then playing on that . But goodness gracious
12:55
, i mean I guess that was the lore
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for some of these , probably because
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, hey , i mean I didn't even know the Titanic
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was that deep . But You
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know , anybody could do a little , what
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you call it like a little snorkel . You
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know they got money to do that type of stuff . There's
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no big deal . So I guess the delir
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of it you know , because it's the
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Titanic , you know it's like it would be
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like kind of similar How do people sell art ?
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You just attach a story to the wood and then it's
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yeah , the whole something yeah , right
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. Well , i think that's what , like you said , that
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that would may have sold the story
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, for people wanted to get onto this . Yeah
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, some merciful and right to die . I'm
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speaking of Titanic , though James
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Cameron also commented on this situation
13:40
About it
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. He said that he told be BBC
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right that
13:46
he felt like The
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whole thing when they're like the Navy in the Coast Guard
13:51
reported A
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whole bunch of like banging and shit like that underwater
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with the so-not buoys . He was thinking that it
13:58
was just basically a charade going on , right
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, mm-hmm , um I . He
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said he don't feel like that was actually them , but
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then he said if he felt like that
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, they actually probably would have died
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on like Sunday , i believe he
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said he said the way before
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it was reported , yeah , that it was
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ported missing to , but
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it probably was already blown
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up , i mean , you know , imploded by
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that time , all right , and that banging
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and whatever that he heard
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.
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Adam .
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You don't think that it was them that was banging
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on the ?
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because from what I was researching
14:33
about implosion , it's seconds
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, like miller , miller set . Whatever that I
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was saying , it means less than seconds . That
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you just so you don't even have time to Think
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about .
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You know , right , that has even
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happened and that's you know and because
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apparently the Submarine
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supposed to have air for like
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four days worth or something like that , i think that
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was the submersible is supposed to have like a like
14:57
four days , i believe , before it runs at
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60 hours or so something like
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that Yeah .
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I don't know but it was .
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It's supposed to have done that , but of course it didn't last
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that long because it didn't pull it . So
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all of that banging and whatever they
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couldn't have been banging , okay
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, so kind of back up , right , this trip is what
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the last two hours , one hour
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45 minutes into the trip . Then
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That's what they feel like eating
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, that's what that's , because when they lost contact , Okay
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so that's when they feel like Looking
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back at the timeline . That's when the
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implosion actually happened . Mm-hmm , not
15:33
days later . Like how they
15:35
they try to settle it .
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I guess they was trying to maybe give some
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hope , yeah , hope that some of
15:41
them were alive and not that it was
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you know . So
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I guess , like short
15:49
lived , of a little experience
15:51
, experience , because I mean an hour and a half
15:53
in or hour 45 , and it was that
15:55
was done . I feel like when they lost contact
15:58
is probably when it happened , because it doesn't take long
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for it to implode . No and you and
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you know , i didn't know that underwater that it could
16:04
be so quick , because I'm thinking underwater all the pressure
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, it should take some time
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. But no , they said it's less than a second
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. Like it , just it's it . So
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that was you know . It's sad to
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know that this that agreed comes
16:18
people all . But this is how it goes . This
16:20
is how it is When people are
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greedy . They care only about themselves
16:25
.
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Yeah , so you know it's so unfortunate That
16:28
so many people have died like
16:30
but a couple of people did dodge the
16:32
bullet right Like . It's a youtuber
16:34
. His name is Jake
16:36
Kohler , i guess I'm pronouncing
16:38
that right . He was supposed
16:41
to go down there Lucky
16:43
, but it was saying that
16:45
it was malfunction . That's
16:48
why he did the trip Right And
16:52
this was days right before it did implode . A
16:55
lot of people , it really dodged the bullet .
16:56
Yeah , a few people dodged that bullet .
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Yeah , it was another billionaire
17:00
, him and his son , something
17:03
they was offering Ocean Gate
17:05
. Ocean Gate was offering
17:08
a last minute discount or whatever , right
17:10
, and
17:12
they were like , well , i don't care about .
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Yeah , they probably heard about some of
17:16
the . they probably did their research
17:18
and you hear about all of the . that's like when
17:21
you doing anything and you go to the reviews
17:23
, sure That the
17:25
ones that missed dodged the bullet . perhaps
17:27
they went to hear some of these things that
17:30
were going on with it .
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Yeah , Well , you probably saw
17:33
the damn interview and he was
17:35
like hell , no Right , he
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was like hell , no Yeah . Video
17:40
game remote control Yeah , and
17:42
he could stall around this controller . Even I
17:44
. I mean , that's what
17:46
, that's what got me Me too .
17:49
I was you mean to tell me that you that's
17:51
like I was saying like flying a plane with a
17:53
tarry joystick , like no
17:56
, you're not going to do that .
17:57
No , we wouldn't trust
18:00
air pilots just to control a plane
18:02
with an air with a $12 controller
18:04
.
18:04
Right .
18:05
So this is no different .
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Exactly , it's the same thing .
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Yeah , Because
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we were supposed to be using
18:15
a highly sophisticated equipment
18:17
to you know , explore
18:20
.
18:20
Yeah , To maneuver these big , you know these
18:22
machines .
18:23
I mean , you're not going to fly into space with an iPad
18:25
, or your iPhone and control
18:28
it . That's not going to work . It's not
18:30
So why this guy thinks , but
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that's what kills me , though . The air it gets behind
18:35
it causes
18:37
own life .
18:38
Yeah , And his own demise right At the end
18:40
of it .
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He was on , he was on board as well . Disgree
18:44
And this causes own life And
18:46
unfortunately , for other people that
18:49
were , I think they were actually duped into
18:51
it Because
18:53
of the simplified that oh yeah , safe . He
18:56
just say that it was safe , but we do
18:58
know that we look upon
19:00
further investigation on this . It
19:04
was never safe .
19:05
Right And it didn't do
19:07
. Just like people that
19:09
like anything , people that don't
19:11
do the research and they just go to the first thing that
19:14
sounds like it's . It's all right
19:16
, it's nearby , i'll do it . I'm
19:18
with doctors that , like we see with women , with surgeries
19:20
, oh , i just go to him and he doesn't
19:23
matter . You know , I , i didn't do much research
19:25
, i just want someone cheap . I got the money
19:27
, i want the body and then they
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die . But you have to do your research
19:31
with anything , with
19:33
anything , right ? So even you know
19:35
just the
19:38
life , you do have to just make sure you
19:40
take the time out to see what you're getting yourself
19:42
into . Because even when we do , we go
19:44
on trips , we do research . Yeah , there are the
19:46
places . Yeah , how many stars , the
19:49
food , the restaurants , i mean that
19:51
should be a given right .
19:52
So I don't think this just would have been on one
19:55
of those Yelp reviews .
19:56
But but they could have looked things up
19:58
and saw the man
20:01
, the guy who was talking about explaining , he
20:03
which took them to court because of the fall
20:05
. That's up there .
20:06
That's big . Yeah , that's a big indication
20:08
because you know the owner
20:10
itself was saying that , hey , i don't want
20:13
50 year old white guys telling me how
20:15
I should run this company Right , how
20:17
to make the submarine safe . Yeah
20:20
, lord has inspection , but he's plenty of time
20:22
that even in the waivers it says that this
20:25
trip may cause death .
20:26
Yeah , maybe cause death . They don't . They're
20:29
not responsible for anything and ultimately , the
20:31
last thing was death , right , yeah
20:33
, so maybe it's not like
20:35
you say in Yelp or wherever you look
20:37
for your stars , but yeah it's , the
20:39
research is on , posted
20:42
on TV or wherever
20:44
. You can definitely find where they were
20:46
getting sued or you know the man
20:48
was speaking about the false equipment .
20:50
Yeah , and you know
20:52
, i know this is just one of many crazy adventures
20:55
, but these things happen
20:57
more often than we realized
20:59
, don't you know ? already in 2023
21:01
, there's all have been over 623
21:05
extreme adventures
21:07
, deaths already . Didn't know that
21:09
There's like different things to write
21:12
things like . You know .
21:14
You know you pair parachuting like Oh
21:16
yeah , i do know that Paris
21:18
Saley , that's another one .
21:20
Yeah , that's that big incident out here
21:22
in Florida last year . Remember when
21:24
the Indian family
21:26
, the one that was killed , yeah , yeah , they hit
21:28
the bridge . The captain of the captain
21:30
decided to cut the the sale
21:33
line .
21:33
Instead of pulling down Right Right , his
21:35
equipment was faulty as well . Faulty
21:37
equipment , yeah . So
21:39
yeah , yeah . Some things that
21:42
, even if you know , i don't care how much money
21:44
I have , or it's things that I'm just not
21:46
gonna do , that I've that , that's
21:48
just me . Now , people may
21:50
still trust the pair of sailing and that doesn't
21:52
mean everybody's gonna , you know , get hurt
21:54
or die . But it's some things that I'm just not
21:56
willing to do because I don't trust my life in
21:59
the hands of , of really
22:01
humans . But sometimes we gotta trust because
22:03
of life . But if I don't have to
22:05
buy past certain things , i'll just bypass
22:07
.
22:07
So what would be the most extreme
22:10
adventure you think you would do
22:12
?
22:14
I think the zip lining was enough
22:16
for me when we were zip lining and that was
22:18
because , you know , i'm scared of heights so I'm not jumping out
22:20
of a plane . Yeah , i'm not about
22:22
the parasail over mountains , because we was
22:24
just gonna do that in Brazil . Yeah , we're gonna do
22:26
that , not me .
22:27
Yeah .
22:28
I'm not jumping off of in Vegas
22:30
, jumping off that big building .
22:32
So for the zip line , i don't even
22:35
talk about it , yeah .
22:36
We zip line over alligators . That's enough
22:38
for me .
22:38
Yeah , yeah , i think before
22:41
before seeing how far up you have to be
22:43
for parasailing , that was
22:45
gonna be my , my next , yeah , but
22:47
I do want to do my adventure
22:49
. That I do want to do would be shark
22:52
cave .
22:53
Yeah , you said that . See , i'm not , that I'm
22:56
not very adventurous . You are the very . You are
22:58
the adventurous one out of us . Out of the two
23:00
, i'm very .
23:03
I think , i think I do want to try that , but of course
23:05
it would have to be what a company
23:08
that I can like think I'm a chief
23:10
, or so .
23:10
Like I mean because , like I say , we do put
23:12
our trust in the hands of dentists
23:15
, doctors I doubt you know we do do it
23:17
. Yeah , we have to , but you know we
23:19
just have to just hope and pray and do
23:21
a little research and trust that you
23:24
know they're good . but I mean , these things
23:26
do happen unfortunately , but we can't
23:28
walk around the world not doing it's
23:30
earth doing nothing .
23:31
Yeah .
23:32
I mean you know .
23:34
Well , that is
23:36
a sad event , but you know .
23:38
I hope it is . I hope for people to really do
23:40
more research for , for
23:42
these activities and things like that .
23:44
Yeah , so any last word for our listeners
23:46
tonight .
23:47
No , that would be it . Just look into , look
23:49
into these activities
23:51
and these events and , just you know , take
23:54
a little time to research to see how safe they
23:56
are and maybe , if they do have reviews
23:58
, just look things up and , you know , play
24:01
it safe .
24:02
Yeah , i definitely agree . I definitely agree
24:04
. All right guys , thanks for listening and
24:06
we will catch you next time .
24:08
Good night .
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